Latest / O'Brien & Doug / O'Brien & Doug Ep150 [May 18, 2023 The 150th One!]
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- 0:01SPEAKER_05: Hello children.
- 0:02SPEAKER_05: The O'Brien and Doug Podcast is brought to you in part by Mojarmultimedia.com, KMH Music in Prescle, Maine, the Ridge Runner in Westfield, Maine, and my cousin.
- 0:16SPEAKER_04: We do the dance of joy.
- 0:18SPEAKER_01: I'm happy.
- 0:28SPEAKER_05: Welcome to the O'Brien and Duck podcast.
- 0:30SPEAKER_05: I'm O'Brien.
- 0:31SPEAKER_05: I'm done.
- 0:32SPEAKER_05: Episode 150.
- 0:35SPEAKER_04: Which episode button?
- 0:36SPEAKER_04: Hit the applause.
- 0:36SPEAKER_04: Don't we have an applause button?
- 0:38SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 0:40SPEAKER_06: I think this is it.
- 0:41unknown: Yeah.
- 0:41SPEAKER_04: Oh, I have to hold it up.
- 0:43SPEAKER_04: That was very very, very short.
- 0:45SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
- 0:46SPEAKER_06: Episode 150.
- 0:47SPEAKER_06: Thank you so much.
- 0:47SPEAKER_06: Thank you.
- 0:48SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
- 0:48SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
- 0:49SPEAKER_06: And I think you I you you put it very well earlier when you said that something like most podcasts, you know, don't make it to 150.
- 0:57SPEAKER_06: And then podcasts like ours, you wish wouldn't make it.
- 1:00SPEAKER_04: How did this podcast get to 150?
- 1:02SPEAKER_04: That just doesn't make any sense.
- 1:04SPEAKER_04: So we what the you know what I don't know.
- 1:09SPEAKER_04: It's just it's just beyond it's like it's like Sasquatch, Aliens, you know, the Loch Ness Monster.
- 1:14SPEAKER_04: What?
- 1:15SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:15SPEAKER_04: How?
- 1:17SPEAKER_04: How did the O'Brien and Doug podcast get to 150 episodes?
- 1:21SPEAKER_06: Uh because uh we have no life.
- 1:23SPEAKER_06: We have nothing to do.
- 1:24SPEAKER_06: We get together once a week.
- 1:25SPEAKER_04: I mean, I'm literally sitting here leafing through your guitar player magazine as we as we as we speak.
- 1:32SPEAKER_04: Because it's got a big article on the edge, apparently.
- 1:34SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:36SPEAKER_04: But I was looking, uh it has a has an advertisement for Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.
- 1:42SPEAKER_04: All ages and playing levels welcome.
- 1:44SPEAKER_04: Which I thought, oh that's cool.
- 1:46SPEAKER_04: So it's in J uh July, yep, New York City.
- 1:51SPEAKER_04: Um and it says Jam has performed the music of The Beatles, Rolling Stones, and Aerosmith.
- 1:57SPEAKER_04: And I'm thinking, whoa, that's cool.
- 2:00SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 2:00SPEAKER_04: So from Aerosmith is this is this the first time you've heard of a rock and roll fantasy?
- 2:04SPEAKER_04: No, I've heard of it before, but I've never seen it.
- 2:06SPEAKER_04: I just I just happened to see this.
- 2:07SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 2:08SPEAKER_04: Uh it's got Tom Hamilton from Bass Player from Aerosmith.
- 2:11SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 2:11SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 2:12SPEAKER_04: Daryl Jones from the Stones.
- 2:14SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 2:15SPEAKER_04: Bass player.
- 2:15SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 2:16SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 2:16SPEAKER_04: Pete Best.
- 2:18SPEAKER_04: The drummer from the Beatles?
- 2:19SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 2:20SPEAKER_04: Pete.
- 2:21SPEAKER_04: He was he what he didn't even record an album with him.
- 2:24SPEAKER_04: He his his claim to fame is that he would, you know, they called him out of the blue because they were gonna play in Germany.
- 2:29SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 2:30SPEAKER_04: And they needed a drummer.
- 2:32SPEAKER_04: That that's Pete's best.
- 2:33SPEAKER_04: How about I bet he plays in has been a big thing.
- 2:35SPEAKER_04: I'm sure he can play.
- 2:36SPEAKER_04: I'm not I'm not doubting he can play, but I just but you're like, oh, he could play the Beatles with Pete Best, who didn't play any Beatles song.
- 2:45SPEAKER_05: Yay! But there's a connection.
- 2:46SPEAKER_03: There's connection.
- 2:48SPEAKER_03: I know Paul.
- 2:49SPEAKER_03: I was their first drummer, and then Ringo came and I was fired.
- 2:56SPEAKER_03: Pretty much.
- 2:57SPEAKER_04: I mean, that's Pete Best's story.
- 2:59SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 2:59SPEAKER_04: Pretty good.
- 2:59SPEAKER_04: Did you ever see the movie The Rocker with um Rain Wilson?
- 3:03SPEAKER_06: I did, but I don't remember it.
- 3:05SPEAKER_04: Well, Pete Best does a cameo.
- 3:06SPEAKER_06: Oh, he does?
- 3:07SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he does.
- 3:08SPEAKER_06: Oh, I didn't I don't remember that.
- 3:09SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's pretty good.
- 3:10SPEAKER_06: Yeah, the rock, isn't he like a he's a washed up drummer or an older drummer.
- 3:13SPEAKER_04: Well, he was he was a drummer in a band and they make it big and they fire him.
- 3:17SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 3:17SPEAKER_04: So so he's like so he's he's sitting at this bus stop.
- 3:21SPEAKER_04: He sits next to this guy, and and like this bus pulls up and it's got like an advertisement for that band he was kicked out of.
- 3:27SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 3:28SPEAKER_04: And Pete was like, and Pete Best just sitting there going, mm-hmm.
- 3:31SPEAKER_05: Yep.
- 3:33SPEAKER_05: That's pretty great.
- 3:34SPEAKER_05: That's awesome.
- 3:34SPEAKER_04: So I just I just thought it was funny.
- 3:36SPEAKER_04: It's like, oh yeah.
- 3:37SPEAKER_04: And they have rock and rock star counselors.
- 3:41SPEAKER_04: Is it name those?
- 3:42SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 3:43SPEAKER_04: Uh Jimmy Vivino, Conan O'Brien show.
- 3:47SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 3:48SPEAKER_04: Tony Franklin from the firm.
- 3:49SPEAKER_04: Wow.
- 3:50SPEAKER_04: Joe Vital from Joe Walsh.
- 3:53SPEAKER_04: Gary Howie.
- 3:54SPEAKER_04: Howie Howie.
- 3:55SPEAKER_06: Gary Howie, awesome guitar player.
- 3:56SPEAKER_06: Vinny Apiece.
- 3:57SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 3:58SPEAKER_06: Vinny Vinnie would be it'd be Vinnie.
- 4:01SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 4:01SPEAKER_06: Vinny Apiece.
- 4:02SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 4:03SPEAKER_06: Because I always get him confused because Carmine is spelled the same, but it's Carmine Aposy.
- 4:09SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 4:09SPEAKER_06: And then it's Vinny Apiece.
- 4:10SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I know I never understood that.
- 4:12SPEAKER_04: Are they related?
- 4:14SPEAKER_04: I thought they were brothers or something.
- 4:15SPEAKER_04: I thought they were something like that.
- 4:17SPEAKER_06: I thought they were too.
- 4:17SPEAKER_04: I just thought that was.
- 4:18SPEAKER_04: And then Teddy, Teddy Andreadis from Guns N' Roses.
- 4:23SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 4:24SPEAKER_04: Bumblefoot from Guns N' Roses.
- 4:26SPEAKER_04: I don't even know who that is.
- 4:27SPEAKER_06: Yeah, guitar player.
- 4:29SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 4:29SPEAKER_04: Johnny A, The Yardbirds.
- 4:32SPEAKER_04: Kasmin Sultan, Utopia.
- 4:35SPEAKER_04: Never even heard of that.
- 4:36SPEAKER_04: Mark Mark Clark from The Monkeys.
- 4:39SPEAKER_04: Brit Lightning, musical director of Vixen.
- 4:43SPEAKER_06: Oh, I know Brit Lightning.
- 4:44SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 4:44SPEAKER_06: Do you know?
- 4:45SPEAKER_06: Do you remember there was a magazine back in the uh late 80s?
- 4:50SPEAKER_04: Was it a guitar player?
- 4:50SPEAKER_06: Nope.
- 4:51SPEAKER_06: No.
- 4:51SPEAKER_06: It was called uh Rip magazine.
- 4:53SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, yeah, Rip, yeah.
- 4:54SPEAKER_06: There was, I think the the guy that ran the magazine and uh wrote a lot of the articles, it was a guy named Lon Friend.
- 5:00SPEAKER_06: Does that name so?
- 5:01SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 5:02SPEAKER_04: Uh what was that?
- 5:07SPEAKER_06: Jeez, he was he was in the I think he's done I think he's done radio and I think he's done He did something with the Anyway.
- 5:18SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I know uh Lon Friend is Brit Lightning's dad.
- 5:21SPEAKER_06: Really?
- 5:22SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 5:22SPEAKER_06: Wow.
- 5:23SPEAKER_06: Brit Lightning is the guitar player for Vixen.
- 5:25SPEAKER_06: Oh, okay.
- 5:25SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
- 5:25SPEAKER_06: I didn't know that.
- 5:26SPEAKER_06: Yeah, she replaced uh Jan.
- 5:29SPEAKER_06: I can't pronounce her last name.
- 5:31SPEAKER_06: Do you remember Jan?
- 5:32SPEAKER_06: She was a guitar player.
- 5:33SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 5:34SPEAKER_06: She had the long hair and it almost looked like a raccoon.
- 5:36SPEAKER_06: Right, yeah, yeah.
- 5:38SPEAKER_06: She died.
- 5:39SPEAKER_06: She did.
- 5:40SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 5:40SPEAKER_06: Oh, that's correct.
- 5:41SPEAKER_06: And I don't remember how.
- 5:42SPEAKER_06: Uh was it a car accident?
- 5:43SPEAKER_06: I don't I don't remember how she died.
- 5:44SPEAKER_06: I don't even know.
- 5:45SPEAKER_06: But uh yeah, it was pretty tragic, actually.
- 5:48SPEAKER_06: And uh so Brit Lightning filled in for the city.
- 5:51SPEAKER_04: Well, we missed this part of it.
- 5:52SPEAKER_04: Uh jammed the 80s anthems with the legends in Los Angeles, May 4th through the 7th.
- 5:57SPEAKER_04: So we missed that.
- 5:58SPEAKER_04: But apparently Ricky Rocket and John Five were there.
- 6:01SPEAKER_06: Oh so that's kind of Poison and Motley Crue.
- 6:04SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 6:05SPEAKER_04: Also, your rockin' rock star counselors were Jennifer Batten.
- 6:09SPEAKER_06: Oh, Jennifer Batten.
- 6:10SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Spike Edney, Jeff Scott Soto, which been really cool.
- 6:17SPEAKER_04: Teddy Andreadis again, uh Vinny Apeace again, Joel Holkstra, Gary Hoey, Tommy Black, Tony Franklin, and Ashley Reeve from Filter.
- 6:29SPEAKER_06: I looked it up.
- 6:30SPEAKER_06: Um, Carmine Aposy is actually Vinny a piece's older brother.
- 6:36SPEAKER_04: So they are brothers.
- 6:37SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 6:37SPEAKER_04: They are brothers.
- 6:38SPEAKER_04: So why do they pronounce their names differently?
- 6:40SPEAKER_04: Is that a like a showbiz thing?
- 6:42SPEAKER_06: Are we sure that it's Vinny Apossey or Vinny Apeace and not Vinny Apassy?
- 6:46SPEAKER_06: It could be.
- 6:47SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
- 6:48SPEAKER_04: I was just I was just reading.
- 6:49SPEAKER_04: I was just reading phonetically.
- 6:51SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but no, because I've heard um, you know, our best buddy, Eddie Trunk, just talked to Carmine Apossey recently.
- 6:57SPEAKER_06: Oh, how is Eddie?
- 6:58SPEAKER_06: Uh he's well.
- 6:59SPEAKER_06: Good.
- 6:59SPEAKER_06: He's uh last time I talked to him anyway.
- 7:00SPEAKER_06: Oh, good.
- 7:01SPEAKER_06: Uh in my car as I as I was listening and yelling yelling at him.
- 7:05SPEAKER_06: Um but yeah, no, uh he pronounced it Carmine Apossey.
- 7:09SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 7:09SPEAKER_06: And uh so I'm sure that's the correct pronunciation because Carmine didn't didn't correct him.
- 7:15SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 7:16SPEAKER_06: Um so uh so maybe it's Vinny Aposy.
- 7:18SPEAKER_06: So e either it's Vinny Apicy or they just w went different directions and they didn't want to be, you know, maybe they had like a fight and they were like, okay, I'm gonna be Apossy and you're gonna be a piece.
- 7:31SPEAKER_04: We're not brothers anymore.
- 7:34SPEAKER_06: Yes, that's it.
- 7:35SPEAKER_06: I'm pr I'm sure.
- 7:37SPEAKER_06: That's exactly what happened.
- 7:38SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 7:39SPEAKER_04: They were they were fighting over the bunk beds.
- 7:41SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 7:42SPEAKER_06: So uh so what's going on?
- 7:44SPEAKER_06: Anything?
- 7:46SPEAKER_06: Um no.
- 7:50SPEAKER_06: Okay, good.
- 7:51SPEAKER_06: So tomorrow I'm gone for about four days after after tomorrow's day of school.
- 7:58SPEAKER_06: Um, you're leaving tomorrow after school?
- 8:00SPEAKER_06: I'm leaving tomorrow after school.
- 8:02SPEAKER_06: Going down to the big, my first ever Allstate music festival down at the university, and I'm taking two students with me, and I am not looking forward to it.
- 8:13SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 8:13SPEAKER_06: I mean I am, but I am not because Well, here's the thing.
- 8:19SPEAKER_06: I got into my current position uh of music teacher uh kind of by accident.
- 8:25SPEAKER_04: Uh well not by accident, but kind of I accidentally filled out an application and it turned into a resume.
- 8:30SPEAKER_06: Not not not by accident, though.
- 8:31SPEAKER_06: I meant I meant to reply that That was the wrong choice of words.
- 8:35SPEAKER_06: But so I tripped and fell.
- 8:38SPEAKER_06: But I'm I'm teaching chorus from middle school and high school, and I feel uh every day I feel underqualified.
- 8:44SPEAKER_06: Um so w with the little kids I feel okay, and because I'm the little kids, I don't know.
- 8:50SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I'm and I'm kind of a dork anyway, so we just have fun.
- 8:53SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 8:53SPEAKER_06: So uh but but I always feel like you know, I I I'm coming up a dollar short, you know, with with the high school kids especially.
- 9:02SPEAKER_06: So I'm going to go to and I've and I and I'm I love all the people that I work with.
- 9:10SPEAKER_06: Um I went to a meeting a while back um with a bunch of other music directors and teachers.
- 9:20SPEAKER_06: Um and there were probably three or four in the room that I know and I think are good folks.
- 9:30SPEAKER_06: And the other ones I don't know uh very well, but I'm thinking to myself the whole time, yeah, I don't fit in with these people.
- 9:39SPEAKER_06: I I really because they're talking about, you know, all these um just really I don't know.
- 9:48SPEAKER_06: I I come from a rock and roll background.
- 9:50SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 9:50SPEAKER_06: You know, so I come at it from a different angle, and so I'm going to be immersed in an environment where there's more of those people.
- 10:03SPEAKER_06: So Okay.
- 10:04SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna learn a lot, I think.
- 10:06SPEAKER_06: I mean it's we got workshops and stuff like that.
- 10:09SPEAKER_06: So but as and as long as I know where I'm going, I think it's it's gonna be a good time.
- 10:13SPEAKER_06: And then it'll be fun.
- 10:14SPEAKER_06: And then the c the the kids that I'm bringing down, they have a concert on Saturday, so that'll be fun to watch.
- 10:20SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that'll be good.
- 10:21SPEAKER_06: Uh I've listened to the music that they're working on, and it's super difficult.
- 10:27SPEAKER_04: Yeah, well, I mean it's all stage.
- 10:30SPEAKER_04: It is.
- 10:30SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's it's super difficult stuff and and uh they're they're impressing me uh uh all the time that they can remember it and they can read it and you know it's just it's well I remember doing all roustic as a in when I was in high school.
- 10:43SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 10:44SPEAKER_04: And that was always it was I mean, it was fun.
- 10:47SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 10:48SPEAKER_04: And it was, you know, a little more difficult pieces than we used to, yeah.
- 10:53SPEAKER_06: Yeah, usually because they they bring outside conductors in.
- 10:55SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 10:56SPEAKER_06: And the conductor usually gets to pick the music.
- 10:58SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 10:59SPEAKER_06: And sometimes you get like like this last year of all rustic, we had uh a conductor for the middle school and a conductor for the high school.
- 11:06SPEAKER_06: They were both great.
- 11:07SPEAKER_06: The conductor for the high school brought really slow depressing uh it wasn't all depressing, but it was all slow.
- 11:18SPEAKER_06: All the music was just slow.
- 11:20SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 11:21SPEAKER_06: They had like four songs and there was no rest from the from the just uh there was no up nothing upbeat.
- 11:30SPEAKER_06: And uh on the other hand, in the middle school, uh they had a gentleman uh who just had a blast with the kids.
- 11:39SPEAKER_06: Had a two or three upbeat songs, some a couple of pretty songs, and it was really, really well done.
- 11:45SPEAKER_06: I learned a lot from that.
- 11:46SPEAKER_06: So I I'm I'm looking forward to to actually learning from some people.
- 11:50SPEAKER_06: But like I am at work, you know, I remember I was given some advice by a teacher friend of mine when I when I went into this position.
- 11:59SPEAKER_06: Stay out of the teacher's room.
- 12:02SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, that's like a black hole.
- 12:04SPEAKER_06: Because, you know, that's it's gossip, it's this and that, you know.
- 12:08SPEAKER_06: And so when I go to work, I go in, I put my stuff in my room, I go to the teacher's room and check my mailbox, everybody's in there talking, I turn around and walk out.
- 12:18SPEAKER_06: That's good.
- 12:19SPEAKER_06: It's probably best.
- 12:20SPEAKER_06: I go right back to my room and then I leave when I leave, I leave.
- 12:24SPEAKER_06: You know, I I and so that's kind of what I'm gonna do at this festival is I'm just gonna kind of find my way.
- 12:31SPEAKER_06: If I meet somebody and and we get to talking, that's great.
- 12:34SPEAKER_06: If not, I'll be alright.
- 12:37SPEAKER_04: I'll be la I'll be that guy.
- 12:38SPEAKER_04: I'll be that guy.
- 12:39SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 12:40SPEAKER_04: Sits in the back.
- 12:41SPEAKER_06: So social it's a so it's a social situation, and uh, you know, those those situations are not ones that I'm they're not that much fun.
- 12:49SPEAKER_06: They're not that much fun, especially when they're there's a lot of people.
- 12:52SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, yeah.
- 12:53SPEAKER_06: And all of them are um trained.
- 12:58SPEAKER_06: And I'm brand new.
- 12:59SPEAKER_06: So it's gonna be there's a there's a little Well you're trained, but you're self-trained.
- 13:04SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's a different and that's the other thing that I've noticed is some of these people that are teaching and and and only the people that I that I have met I can't really you know, um and it's not all of them, but some of the people that are teaching music when they perform how can I say this?
- 13:29SPEAKER_06: Those who can't teach?
- 13:32SPEAKER_06: Those who can't perform teach.
- 13:33SPEAKER_06: Right?
- 13:35SPEAKER_06: Which is kind of the opposite of me, because we've been performing for years years and now I'm trying to teach.
- 13:44SPEAKER_06: So it's just like this is the opposite, you know, it's the opposite thing.
- 13:47SPEAKER_06: So but I'm a looking forward to it to a certain extent, and then I'm not looking forward to it.
- 13:52SPEAKER_04: Well, there's a d there there there's distinct differences between teaching music and performing music.
- 13:57SPEAKER_04: Mm-hmm.
- 13:58SPEAKER_04: Mm-hmm.
- 13:59SPEAKER_04: You know.
- 14:00SPEAKER_04: I mean, I I could teach somebody to play drums, but it would suck.
- 14:04SPEAKER_04: Well, no, I don't think it would suck at all.
- 14:06SPEAKER_04: Well, it would, because I don't know how to I don't know how to teach drums to somebody else because I never I was never taught how to play drums.
- 14:12SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 14:12SPEAKER_04: So all I could do is like pass on what I do.
- 14:16SPEAKER_04: Which is teaching.
- 14:17SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but it's not the correct way.
- 14:20SPEAKER_06: Well, it's the correct way for you.
- 14:22SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but that's you know, but that you know, you want you know, if you want to teach rudiment rudiments, I don't know rudiments.
- 14:29SPEAKER_04: I know like single stroke or rudiment.
- 14:32SPEAKER_04: I know paradiddles, but that that those are rudiments.
- 14:34SPEAKER_04: But I really don't know what I'd be like, do this! Alright, you're a drummer.
- 14:40SPEAKER_04: Congratulations.
- 14:40SPEAKER_04: That's what I do every day.
- 14:41SPEAKER_04: Take out half your brain, you'll be good.
- 14:45SPEAKER_06: Do this here, sniff some glue, you'll be alright.
- 14:48SPEAKER_06: My kindergartners today, they all had rhythm sticks.
- 14:51SPEAKER_06: And I had a and I had a a video of of it was a rhythm.
- 14:55SPEAKER_06: Uh um, so they had to play on the quarter notes and rest on the rests.
- 15:00SPEAKER_06: Oh.
- 15:00SPEAKER_06: And it was like no no, don't play on the rests.
- 15:04SPEAKER_06: When there's a rest, you don't play.
- 15:07SPEAKER_06: It's a rest.
- 15:08SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 15:08SPEAKER_06: Meaning you don't do anything.
- 15:09SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 15:10SPEAKER_06: Watch Mr.
- 15:10SPEAKER_06: Mo watch me watch me.
- 15:11SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna I'm gonna put my hands, click, click, and I hold my hands up for a rest, and they're like.
- 15:18SPEAKER_05: I don't get it.
- 15:20SPEAKER_04: That's alright, you'll all be drummers.
- 15:23SPEAKER_06: They did well though.
- 15:24SPEAKER_06: They did bad.
- 15:26SPEAKER_06: So anyway, that's what I got coming up in the next few days, so I'm sure I'll have all kinds of stories to tell on.
- 15:31SPEAKER_04: That'll be fun.
- 15:32SPEAKER_06: Next week's podcast.
- 15:33SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
- 15:34SPEAKER_06: We have some new music um that I wanted to preview.
- 15:39SPEAKER_06: One I was okay.
- 15:41SPEAKER_06: Uh didn't really want to preview, but I I think maybe we should.
- 15:44SPEAKER_06: And then uh a pretty cool uh list from ultimate classicrock.com.
- 15:48SPEAKER_06: We'll see what whether you agree with it or not, because you are a big fan of Rush.
- 15:52SPEAKER_06: Rush! So first let's check out the music.
- 15:55SPEAKER_06: So Duff McKagan uh has put out a song.
- 15:59SPEAKER_06: I like Duff.
- 16:00SPEAKER_06: You know what it's called?
- 16:02SPEAKER_06: This is the song.
- 16:03SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
- 16:04SPEAKER_06: Very clever.
- 16:05SPEAKER_06: Very clever.
- 16:06SPEAKER_06: So uh Is it like a solo thing?
- 16:08SPEAKER_06: I think so.
- 16:09SPEAKER_06: He's released a new solo track.
- 16:10SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 16:11SPEAKER_06: Uh his first solo excursion since 2019.
- 16:14SPEAKER_06: We'll say it's been a while.
- 16:15SPEAKER_06: But I don't know if it is kind it doesn't come from an album, I don't think, because they're not really um paying much attention to albums anymore.
- 16:24SPEAKER_06: Not really.
- 16:25SPEAKER_04: You know, so it's all singles now.
- 16:27SPEAKER_06: It's like if you if you have a good if you have a song, you can just release the song and people will buy the song.
- 16:32SPEAKER_06: So I suppose.
- 16:34SPEAKER_06: So this is the song from Duff McKay.
- 16:39SPEAKER_04: I assume he plays everything, right?
- 16:41SPEAKER_04: I don't know that he plays everything.
- 16:43SPEAKER_04: I would imagine, I'm sure.
- 16:47SPEAKER_04: And sing, I'm sure.
- 16:49SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 16:52SPEAKER_07: This is the song that's gonna save my life as a scrape for sanity.
- 17:00SPEAKER_07: Try let's approach, and what else I don't know, but still they can't agree.
- 17:09SPEAKER_07: Come along, come along, come along, come along, come along.
- 18:17SPEAKER_06: I like it.
- 18:18SPEAKER_06: I mean, I it's kinda it's it's uh it's different.
- 18:21SPEAKER_06: It's kind of what I was expecting.
- 18:22SPEAKER_06: He didn't know me either.
- 18:24SPEAKER_06: I was expecting because didn't he have a band um back in the 90s?
- 18:30SPEAKER_06: Um Duff had a band, didn't he?
- 18:32SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 18:33SPEAKER_04: Uh it was after Guns N' Roses.
- 18:35SPEAKER_06: Um Yeah, and it was it was straight up rock.
- 18:39SPEAKER_07: It was uh this is more like uh This is more like a I don't wanna say country rock, but it's not a bunch of uh Velvet Revolver of uh the wood vampires.
- 19:13SPEAKER_04: No, it was it was neurotic outsiders.
- 19:17SPEAKER_04: Ten minute warning, the farts, fastbacks, the gentleman, he played with Jane's addiction, apparently, walking Pipers, and the living.
- 19:30SPEAKER_04: Maybe I'm thinking of somebody else.
- 19:31SPEAKER_06: I thought that he was in a Oh no.
- 19:37SPEAKER_06: Loaded.
- 19:39SPEAKER_06: Is Loaded on that list?
- 19:40SPEAKER_06: Nope.
- 19:41SPEAKER_06: McKagan has released solo music spawn.
- 19:43SPEAKER_06: Oh there it is, right there.
- 19:44SPEAKER_06: I'm just gonna go.
- 19:44SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
- 19:44SPEAKER_06: Loaded, that's what I was thinking of.
- 19:46SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 19:46SPEAKER_06: Um But I supp I guess it wasn't in the 90s, it was in 2001.
- 19:51SPEAKER_06: But still, yeah, it was different than loaded because loaded was very, you know.
- 19:56SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it was more like it was more guns and roads.
- 19:58SPEAKER_04: It was, yeah.
- 19:59SPEAKER_04: It was.
- 19:59SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 20:00SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 20:00SPEAKER_06: Okay, so let's do another song.
- 20:03SPEAKER_06: Uh and you know, I I like the pretenders.
- 20:06SPEAKER_06: Chrissy Hine, I guess.
- 20:07SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 20:08SPEAKER_06: Um guess.
- 20:09SPEAKER_06: I'm not well, I mean, I'm not a huge fan.
- 20:12SPEAKER_06: Um, but I I got a lot of respect for them.
- 20:15SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 20:15SPEAKER_06: And you know that what they've done for rock and roll.
- 20:18SPEAKER_04: So they have a new Well, Chrissy Hine has a very interesting sound.
- 20:22SPEAKER_04: She does.
- 20:23SPEAKER_04: For voice.
- 20:23SPEAKER_06: You know what I mean?
- 20:24SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 20:24SPEAKER_06: Uh it's the lead single from the upcoming album Relentless, which is coming September 1st.
- 20:29SPEAKER_06: I love all these these classic bands that are putting out new music.
- 20:33SPEAKER_04: Well, it's good, man.
- 20:34SPEAKER_04: It is good.
- 20:35SPEAKER_06: It is good.
- 20:36SPEAKER_06: Uh, because I mean they don't have to, right?
- 20:38SPEAKER_04: No.
- 20:39SPEAKER_04: I mean, they could just cruise into retirement, you know.
- 20:42SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 20:42SPEAKER_04: Just collect their ARP card and sit around.
- 20:46SPEAKER_06: Let the sun come in.
- 20:51SPEAKER_04: It already sounds like a pretender song.
- 20:53SPEAKER_04: It does.
- 20:54SPEAKER_04: Already.
- 20:54SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 20:55SPEAKER_04: Right off the bat.
- 20:56SPEAKER_05: I like the guitar tone.
- 20:58SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 21:01SPEAKER_05: She sounds good.
- 21:02SPEAKER_05: Yep.
- 21:53SPEAKER_06: I like it.
- 21:54SPEAKER_06: I like it.
- 21:55SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I think.
- 21:56SPEAKER_06: I I think it's really good.
- 21:58SPEAKER_06: Uh so the new album is called.
- 22:00SPEAKER_06: Lentless.
- 22:01SPEAKER_06: It's kind of a neat uh image.
- 22:03SPEAKER_06: This is a lyric video.
- 22:04SPEAKER_06: Well, actually, I don't even think it's a lyric video because they're not showing lyrics.
- 22:07SPEAKER_06: They just keep showing this um this piece of artwork, which maybe it's the cover of the album.
- 22:14SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
- 22:15SPEAKER_06: But it's a little boy with angel wings, an eye patch, and boxing gloves.
- 22:24SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of neat.
- 22:25SPEAKER_06: I dig it.
- 22:26SPEAKER_06: Uh Let the Sun Come In.
- 22:27SPEAKER_06: That is uh That is uh The Pretenders.
- 22:31SPEAKER_06: That was good.
- 22:31SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 22:31SPEAKER_06: I like and you're right, it sounded like the Pretenders.
- 22:34SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I mean as soon as the song started, I was like, oh yeah, that's a pretenders song.
- 22:37SPEAKER_06: Alright, I'm excited about this one, and I have heard this.
- 22:40SPEAKER_06: I don't know that you have heard this or not.
- 22:42SPEAKER_06: But so remember when um the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame said, uh, we're gonna put Dolly Parton in.
- 22:49SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 22:49SPEAKER_06: And Dolly Parton's like, what?
- 22:51SPEAKER_06: Are you kidding me?
- 22:52SPEAKER_06: Are you insane?
- 22:53SPEAKER_06: And and they would not accept no for an answer.
- 22:55SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 22:56SPEAKER_06: So I think she went in, right?
- 22:58SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Dolly Parton went into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
- 23:00SPEAKER_04: I think I think reluctantly.
- 23:02SPEAKER_06: Yeah, she did.
- 23:03SPEAKER_06: Because she didn't want she tried to retract her name from eligibility, but but they put her in.
- 23:08SPEAKER_06: And she said, Well, I guess I'm gonna have to make a rock album now.
- 23:12SPEAKER_06: So she did.
- 23:12SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 23:13SPEAKER_06: She's got all kinds of guest artists on it.
- 23:17SPEAKER_06: Um and this first single, I dig because I may actually play a lot of it.
- 23:26SPEAKER_06: Because it's so true.
- 23:30SPEAKER_06: She's not a political person.
- 23:31SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 23:32SPEAKER_06: She always stays out of that stuff.
- 23:35SPEAKER_06: And this is this is I think even whatever whatever, regardless of what side of the aisle you're on, there is truth in this song.
- 23:48SPEAKER_06: Um this is called World on Fire.
- 23:52SPEAKER_04: Meganath already did that.
- 23:54SPEAKER_06: Oh, she played with Dave Mustaine?
- 23:56SPEAKER_06: Well, she wrote this herself.
- 23:59SPEAKER_06: Uh, and you have to get past the it's Dolly Parton thing because of the way Dolly Parton is.
- 24:05SPEAKER_06: She's a legend.
- 24:06SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 24:07SPEAKER_06: Um but the music is great and the words are poignant.
- 24:12SPEAKER_06: So I'll just play a little bit of World on Fire, Dolly Parton.
- 24:26SPEAKER_12: Liar, liar, the world's on fire.
- 24:29SPEAKER_12: What you gonna do when it all burns down?
- 24:32SPEAKER_12: Fire fire burning higher.
- 24:36SPEAKER_12: Still got time to turn it on.
- 24:41SPEAKER_12: I'm not speaking out in touch, but that don't really don't stay in touch.
- 24:50SPEAKER_12: What we gonna do when we all fall?
- 24:56SPEAKER_12: What we gonna do when it opened.
- 24:59SPEAKER_12: I don't know what to think about.
- 25:02SPEAKER_12: When did we dump it?
- 25:10SPEAKER_12: Where did it What we gonna do?
- 25:15SPEAKER_12: When it all done all the teeth.
- 25:42SPEAKER_04: Wow.
- 25:43SPEAKER_04: Never thought I'd ever hear that.
- 26:07SPEAKER_12: Then we gotta find a fight.
- 28:08SPEAKER_06: But you know, so she's basically she's pulling a dolly pardon.
- 28:15SPEAKER_06: She's she's coming out and saying the world's messed up.
- 28:22SPEAKER_06: What are we gonna do to fix it?
- 28:24SPEAKER_06: Let's find a solution.
- 28:26SPEAKER_06: Right?
- 28:27SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
- 28:27SPEAKER_06: Instead of picking sides.
- 28:35SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 28:37SPEAKER_04: I don't know how I feel about it.
- 28:39SPEAKER_06: You don't like it?
- 28:40SPEAKER_04: No, I like it.
- 28:41SPEAKER_04: But there's there's just certain parts of it, it feels like she's out of her league.
- 28:47SPEAKER_04: I don't know how to explain it.
- 28:49SPEAKER_04: Just parts of it just kind of there was a couple of times I was just like, as far as lyrics or as far as As far as delivery.
- 28:57SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 28:58SPEAKER_06: Well it's it's Dolly Parton.
- 29:00SPEAKER_06: That's what I was saying.
- 29:00SPEAKER_04: You know, no, no, I get that, but it just it just just something didn't I don't know, just didn't jive.
- 29:06SPEAKER_06: Is it her voice with the music?
- 29:08SPEAKER_04: No, I know, I don't know what it is.
- 29:09SPEAKER_04: I can't explain it.
- 29:10SPEAKER_06: Because you know, it sounds like uh I think the chorus is the best part of it.
- 29:13SPEAKER_06: You remember uh when Johnny Cash did The Man Comes Around or whatever?
- 29:16SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 29:17SPEAKER_06: Um that's what it reminds me of.
- 29:20SPEAKER_04: It's very uh Yeah, something like that.
- 29:22SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 29:22SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 29:23SPEAKER_06: But I thought I love it.
- 29:26SPEAKER_04: No, it's good, it's very good.
- 29:27SPEAKER_04: It just there was just something, there's a like there's an undertone there that I'm just kind of like, hmm, what is that?
- 29:33SPEAKER_04: I don't understand.
- 29:34SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 29:35SPEAKER_04: But you know, overall I like it.
- 29:37SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
- 29:38SPEAKER_06: So there's a lot of guests.
- 29:40SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, she's got she's got like tons of people.
- 29:43SPEAKER_06: She does.
- 29:43SPEAKER_06: I mean, but who really who would not want to work with Dolly Parton?
- 29:46SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
- 29:46SPEAKER_04: I mean it'd be like if Dolly Parton calls and say, hey, I'm doing a rock out, will you want to help?
- 29:50SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
- 29:51SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 29:52SPEAKER_04: I'll do it for free.
- 29:53SPEAKER_04: I'll even pay you.
- 29:56SPEAKER_06: Alright.
- 29:57SPEAKER_06: Moving on.
- 29:58SPEAKER_06: Let's see.
- 29:59SPEAKER_06: I want to see.
- 30:00SPEAKER_06: I'm just looking at this real quick.
- 30:03SPEAKER_06: Because you are a Go ahead.
- 30:06SPEAKER_04: Revolution Saints.
- 30:08SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's right.
- 30:09SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 30:09SPEAKER_04: Eagle Flight.
- 30:10SPEAKER_06: Yeah?
- 30:11SPEAKER_04: Meh.
- 30:12SPEAKER_06: Really?
- 30:12SPEAKER_06: Just meh?
- 30:13SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 30:13SPEAKER_06: Okay, so we should we should backtrack.
- 30:15SPEAKER_06: So Revolution Saints is a band that used to be contrived of, comprised of, uh, well, contrived would be a good word, actually.
- 30:23SPEAKER_06: Because it was thrown together.
- 30:25SPEAKER_06: Uh Dean Castro Novo, Jack Blades from Night Ranger, and Doug Aldridge on guitar.
- 30:31SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 30:32SPEAKER_06: And now it's Dean Castro Novo, um, Joel Hochstra, and Jeff Pilson.
- 30:38SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 30:39SPEAKER_06: Um, so this is the first album with that trio.
- 30:42SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 30:42SPEAKER_06: The other two the other two both had Jack Blades and Doug Aldridge, right?
- 30:47SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 30:48SPEAKER_06: Uh and and those albums were were were good.
- 30:51SPEAKER_06: The first one was really, really good.
- 30:53SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 30:53SPEAKER_06: Second one was okay.
- 30:55SPEAKER_04: This one's kind of really.
- 30:57SPEAKER_04: It's basically the same.
- 30:59SPEAKER_04: It sounds they all three that kind of sound the same.
- 31:02SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 31:03SPEAKER_04: This one just didn't grab me.
- 31:04SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 31:05SPEAKER_04: You know, I listened to it all the all the way through and I was just like, you know, I was waiting for that song to be like, yeah, you know, and it never came.
- 31:12SPEAKER_04: No.
- 31:13SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 31:13SPEAKER_04: Never heard it.
- 31:14SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 31:15SPEAKER_04: So I was kinda d I was a little let down.
- 31:18SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 31:19SPEAKER_04: But I still have it, so yeah.
- 31:21SPEAKER_06: So I I I didn't buy it because I you know, I had heard it for the first couple singles, and I kind of felt the same.
- 31:27SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 31:28SPEAKER_06: Um they were good.
- 31:30SPEAKER_04: But it's good, but there's nothing that grabs you.
- 31:32SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 31:33SPEAKER_04: I mean, the guitar work is fantastic.
- 31:35SPEAKER_04: Of course.
- 31:36SPEAKER_04: Of course, but and you know, getting, you know, he's a great vocalist, but there's no real hooks to it.
- 31:41SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 31:41SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
- 31:42SPEAKER_04: There's nothing really to grab you and just like pull you into it, you know.
- 31:45SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 31:45SPEAKER_04: Not like the winger album.
- 31:47SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
- 31:48SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 31:52SPEAKER_04: Well, I don't know, extreme.
- 31:53SPEAKER_04: I'm a little bit.
- 31:53SPEAKER_04: I'm waiting for extreme, but it better they better bring their A game.
- 31:56SPEAKER_06: And Mammoth is coming out next year.
- 31:58SPEAKER_06: And Mammoth, yeah.
- 31:58SPEAKER_04: So they better bring their A game.
- 32:00SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
- 32:01SPEAKER_06: Yeah, because that that Winger album is pretty great.
- 32:05SPEAKER_06: Yeah, for sure.
- 32:06SPEAKER_06: Uh so uh you're a big Rush fan.
- 32:09SPEAKER_04: I am.
- 32:10SPEAKER_06: Uh this is true.
- 32:11SPEAKER_06: So if you had, and and this is gonna be tough, I'm be I mean, you know the catalog pretty well.
- 32:16SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 32:17SPEAKER_06: So Ultimate ClassicRock.com has made a list of the ten heaviest rush songs.
- 32:26SPEAKER_06: Oh, and I'm kind of curious to see what you think.
- 32:33SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 32:34SPEAKER_06: Um can you name what you think the your like top five?
- 32:38SPEAKER_06: Oh my god.
- 32:53SPEAKER_06: It is not on the list.
- 33:01SPEAKER_06: I know I'm putting you on this one.
- 33:03SPEAKER_06: We didn't we didn't we didn't talk about this one.
- 33:07SPEAKER_06: I will tell you this.
- 33:08SPEAKER_04: Um like an order of like ten to one.
- 33:12SPEAKER_06: They have ten to one, yeah.
- 33:13SPEAKER_06: I think there's a couple of these are late rush.
- 33:19SPEAKER_04: Oh, I'm sure, yeah, okay.
- 33:21SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I get that.
- 33:22SPEAKER_06: Um actually more than a couple.
- 33:25SPEAKER_04: I wonder is Working Man on there?
- 33:27SPEAKER_06: Working Man is number one.
- 33:28SPEAKER_06: Is it?
- 33:29SPEAKER_04: That's the number one head.
- 33:30SPEAKER_06: Working man is number one.
- 33:38SPEAKER_06: This of course is from the first album, and it's and it's not Neil Peart.
- 33:42SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 33:42SPEAKER_06: On drums.
- 33:43SPEAKER_04: It's John Rutspray.
- 33:57SPEAKER_06: This is so classic.
- 33:58SPEAKER_04: This is well, when they first played it, everybody thought it was a new Led Zeppelin song.
- 34:07SPEAKER_05: Really?
- 34:08SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 34:08SPEAKER_05: Oh, I didn't know that.
- 34:09SPEAKER_04: Uh the the the first people to play it in America, uh, it was in Cleveland.
- 34:16SPEAKER_04: Can't remember the the station.
- 34:18SPEAKER_04: But they were talking to the DJ, and she's like, they they they used it because it was a long song, they used it as a bathroom song.
- 34:25SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 34:26SPEAKER_06: And so Wait, wait, wait, we gotta clarify that.
- 34:30SPEAKER_06: Being in radio, we know that what that is, but a lot of people don't.
- 34:33SPEAKER_06: A bathroom song is a song that's like six and a half to seven minutes or longer.
- 34:38SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 34:38SPEAKER_06: So that you can so that the DJ can go to the bathroom.
- 34:40SPEAKER_06: Go to the bathroom.
- 34:41SPEAKER_06: And not worry, not worry about having to come and change the song.
- 34:43SPEAKER_04: So nobody really knew Rush yet in America.
- 34:45SPEAKER_04: I mean, they were kinda, you know, they were known in Canada.
- 34:48SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 34:49SPEAKER_04: But they weren't really known in America.
- 34:50SPEAKER_04: So they get this album and they're playing it, and then people are calling immediately calling.
- 34:55SPEAKER_04: Is Led Zeppelin got a new album?
- 34:57SPEAKER_04: Led Zeppelin's got a new album.
- 34:58SPEAKER_04: This is awesome.
- 34:59SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 35:00SPEAKER_04: Canadian band, Rush.
- 35:02SPEAKER_04: What?
- 35:02SPEAKER_04: Wow.
- 35:03SPEAKER_06: You know, so yeah, so that's number one.
- 35:07SPEAKER_04: So they think that's the heavy, or is that is not like I don't know if it's if it's well, but it is a heavy song.
- 35:13SPEAKER_06: Let me let me let me read a little bit of the first part here.
- 35:16SPEAKER_06: Um our uh let's see.
- 35:18SPEAKER_06: Rush fans uh craving heaviness need to not resort to studio trickery.
- 35:23SPEAKER_06: They deliver the goods on every album.
- 35:25SPEAKER_06: That fact makes this list more challenging to assemble.
- 35:28SPEAKER_06: Uh you could assemble 40 tracks for the fittingly, our final tally spans the group's entire lifespan.
- 35:34SPEAKER_06: Um no, I think it's 10 to 1.
- 35:38SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 35:38SPEAKER_06: They've got 'em, they've got them listed uh from you know, heavy to that what they think is the heaviest, and I think that working man is the heaviest.
- 35:47SPEAKER_06: That's a good one.
- 35:48SPEAKER_06: So yeah.
- 35:48SPEAKER_06: So can you think of another one?
- 35:51SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna I'll just give you the list eventually, but if you can think if you can think of another one.
- 35:55SPEAKER_04: There's so many songs.
- 35:58SPEAKER_06: We'll do we'll do one more from your head, and then we'll and then we'll do the list here.
- 36:03SPEAKER_04: I'm trying to think.
- 36:05SPEAKER_06: Are they later versions?
- 36:06SPEAKER_06: There's well, I think there's at least three of these that are from later albums, yes.
- 36:20SPEAKER_04: I don't I don't know, man.
- 36:21SPEAKER_04: I can't think about 10 when I was thinking the heaviest, yeah.
- 36:23SPEAKER_06: We'll start from ten then.
- 36:24SPEAKER_06: And I love this song.
- 36:26SPEAKER_06: Used to play this when I was on the radio.
- 36:28SPEAKER_06: Um I don't know about the heaviest, but maybe.
- 36:34SPEAKER_06: I suppose.
- 36:35SPEAKER_04: Oh.
- 36:35SPEAKER_04: Far cry.
- 36:36SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 36:37SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 36:38SPEAKER_04: I never eat yeah.
- 36:40SPEAKER_04: It's pretty heavy, yeah.
- 36:41SPEAKER_06: This is from Snakes and Arrows, right?
- 36:45SPEAKER_06: Yeah, see, I love this song.
- 36:48SPEAKER_06: I used to play this all the time.
- 36:49SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 36:58SPEAKER_04: No.
- 36:59SPEAKER_06: No?
- 37:01SPEAKER_04: It's pretty heavy, but it's not heavy.
- 37:03SPEAKER_04: Heavy Working Man's got that to it, you know.
- 37:07SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 37:07SPEAKER_04: But this is pretty heavy for, you know.
- 37:11SPEAKER_04: I think this may be my favorite part coming up.
- 37:25SPEAKER_04: This is one of my favorite rush songs, man.
- 37:27SPEAKER_04: I just love this song.
- 37:31SPEAKER_06: Such a unique band.
- 37:33SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 37:33SPEAKER_06: Really.
- 37:34SPEAKER_04: For for guys that just it was just the three of them doing everything.
- 37:37SPEAKER_06: Everything.
- 37:38SPEAKER_04: You know, so it was awesome.
- 37:40SPEAKER_06: All right.
- 37:41SPEAKER_06: So, number nine of the heaviest number.
- 37:46SPEAKER_06: Number one.
- 37:46SPEAKER_06: Um actually from Caressive Steel.
- 37:49SPEAKER_06: Really?
- 37:50SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 37:51SPEAKER_06: Bastille day.
- 37:52SPEAKER_04: Oh.
- 37:53SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 37:58SPEAKER_04: I wouldn't even consider this a heavy song.
- 38:07SPEAKER_04: I would.
- 38:09SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 38:09SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 38:10SPEAKER_04: It didn't even it didn't even it wouldn't even appear on my radar.
- 38:14SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 38:14SPEAKER_04: As a heavy song.
- 38:42SPEAKER_04: What I like about that chorus, it incorporates some of the French national anthem in it.
- 38:48SPEAKER_06: This one?
- 38:48SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 38:53SPEAKER_04: On purpose?
- 38:54SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think they did it.
- 38:55SPEAKER_04: Of course they did it on purpose.
- 38:58SPEAKER_06: You know?
- 39:00SPEAKER_06: Uh alright.
- 39:01SPEAKER_06: Number eight.
- 39:03SPEAKER_06: Hmm.
- 39:05SPEAKER_06: Uh this isn't a late one.
- 39:09SPEAKER_06: It isn't or is well, it's not like not like Snakes and Arrows late.
- 39:14SPEAKER_06: But it's from Test for Echo.
- 39:16SPEAKER_06: Oh, I love Test for Echo.
- 39:17SPEAKER_06: Uh, song called Driven.
- 39:18SPEAKER_06: Driven.
- 39:19SPEAKER_04: Oh, I yeah.
- 39:20SPEAKER_04: I actually heard that.
- 39:21SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's heavy.
- 39:22SPEAKER_04: That's heavy.
- 39:28SPEAKER_10: Driven up and down.
- 39:30SPEAKER_06: You know what?
- 39:31SPEAKER_06: This is gonna make this is gonna make you want to listen to Rush on the way home.
- 39:34SPEAKER_04: No, I'll be over there.
- 39:35SPEAKER_04: I probably will, yeah.
- 39:36SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 39:37SPEAKER_02: Staring in and out of windows.
- 39:41SPEAKER_00: Driven to a fool's paradise.
- 39:46SPEAKER_00: It's my turn to drive.
- 39:49SPEAKER_00: But it's my turn to drive.
- 39:53SPEAKER_00: Driven to the margin of error.
- 39:57SPEAKER_02: Driven to the edge of control.
- 40:00SPEAKER_06: So you'd you know, now that you hear it, you probably would go.
- 40:02SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah, I put that on there.
- 40:04SPEAKER_04: Uh but my favorite uh but my favorite song off that album is Test for Echo.
- 40:08SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 40:08SPEAKER_06: So I don't know.
- 40:09SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 40:10SPEAKER_06: Alright, so the next one is one of the later albums from Vapor Trails.
- 40:15SPEAKER_06: Any guesses?
- 40:18SPEAKER_04: I don't know, man.
- 40:19SPEAKER_04: I don't, you know.
- 40:22SPEAKER_04: Oh, this is uh, what's it?
- 40:42SPEAKER_04: Oh one broke three.
- 41:11SPEAKER_04: Well, you gotta remember too, this is the first album after their hiatus, after Neil's wife and daughter died, and he went on his uh his first motorcycle ride?
- 41:20SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the Ghost Rider.
- 41:21SPEAKER_04: Yeah, basically tour.
- 41:23SPEAKER_04: So of course it's a little bit there's a little bit of edge and everything into this album, so.
- 41:30SPEAKER_06: Alright, number six from uh Farewell to Kings.
- 41:35SPEAKER_06: Any guesses?
- 41:36SPEAKER_06: I have no idea, man.
- 41:39SPEAKER_06: This is one I've never heard.
- 41:42SPEAKER_06: Cygnus X1.
- 41:43SPEAKER_06: Oh book one book one, yeah.
- 41:45SPEAKER_06: The voyage.
- 41:46SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 41:47SPEAKER_06: Uh yeah, I don't think I've uh ever a good ten minutes on.
- 41:52SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
- 41:53SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 41:59SPEAKER_04: So far it's not heavy at all.
- 42:01SPEAKER_04: It's more electronic than anything.
- 42:06SPEAKER_04: That sounds like space.
- 42:09unknown: Star Wars.
- 42:27SPEAKER_11: The black hole of Cygnus X1.
- 42:38SPEAKER_06: I love I love their write-up.
- 42:40SPEAKER_06: It isn't easy to headbang in weird time signatures.
- 42:44SPEAKER_06: But it's impossible not to try during Cygnus X1 Book One The Voyage, the 10 Minute Closure to Farewell, Farewell to Kings.
- 42:52SPEAKER_06: The sci-fi concept is intriguing, but everything here revolves around the stripped down interplay among the Holy Trinity.
- 42:58SPEAKER_06: The riffs arrive in rapid fire succession, often just teasing ideas that could have spawned entire songs.
- 43:05SPEAKER_06: The heaviest, though, could be the early hard blues section that alternates between six, seven, and eight.
- 43:12SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna fast forward a little bit here.
- 43:19SPEAKER_04: See, I wouldn't have put this on my list.
- 43:21SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I don't think I would have either.
- 43:25SPEAKER_06: I mean, genius, obviously.
- 43:27SPEAKER_06: Oh, I mean, you know, it's one of those epic rush songs, you know, but so this is number five is from uh a later album, Clockwork Angels.
- 43:37SPEAKER_04: Is it the Wreckers?
- 43:38SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 43:39SPEAKER_04: No?
- 43:40SPEAKER_06: I like the Wreckers, though.
- 43:41SPEAKER_06: Wreckers are great.
- 43:43SPEAKER_06: It's not.
- 43:43SPEAKER_06: Really?
- 43:44SPEAKER_06: Carney's.
- 43:45SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 43:46SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 43:49SPEAKER_04: I didn't really care for this song, to be honest with you.
- 43:53SPEAKER_04: I mean it's good, but it's definitely not one of my favorites.
- 43:56SPEAKER_06: Uh Deep Cut opens with one of Alex Lifes'.
- 44:00SPEAKER_06: Earliest moments, a hard psychic guitar pattern that echoes the intensity of Sound Garden's My Wave.
- 44:11SPEAKER_04: Okay, now I get it.
- 44:13SPEAKER_06: Alex Lyson said this has got a little bit of a Hendrix or Robin Trower, which I can hear.
- 44:30SPEAKER_04: I I really struggle with Clockwork Angels.
- 44:33SPEAKER_04: Why?
- 44:34SPEAKER_04: Because Getty's voice was different.
- 44:37SPEAKER_04: Because he had a surgery on his voice.
- 44:39SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 44:40SPEAKER_04: And it changed his voice.
- 44:43SPEAKER_04: It's not Is that the last album?
- 44:44SPEAKER_04: That was the last album.
- 44:45SPEAKER_04: That was the last studio album.
- 44:46SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 44:47SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 44:47SPEAKER_04: So it was for me, it's it it's it's a little tough listening to because his voice is so not getty.
- 44:56SPEAKER_06: Is it is it lower?
- 44:58SPEAKER_04: It's a little lower and it's a little shakier, like he's trying too hard to get back to where he was.
- 45:04SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 45:04SPEAKER_04: You know, that's just what it feels like.
- 45:06SPEAKER_04: But I mean, you know, I get it.
- 45:07SPEAKER_06: When Clockwork Clockwork Angels came out, he was probably in his mid to late sixties.
- 45:13SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 45:14SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 45:14SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 45:14SPEAKER_06: Something like that.
- 45:15SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 45:16SPEAKER_06: Uh let's see, number four.
- 45:19SPEAKER_06: Uh let's see.
- 45:20SPEAKER_06: This comes from.
- 45:23SPEAKER_06: Oh.
- 45:26SPEAKER_06: Well, it's Yeah.
- 45:33SPEAKER_06: See, I've never heard this song either.
- 45:35SPEAKER_06: It's called What You're Doing.
- 45:38SPEAKER_06: But that's off the first album.
- 45:41SPEAKER_06: For those first two pop uh top string notes, you might think you've played Led Zeppelin's Heartbreaker.
- 45:45SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 45:46SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 45:46SPEAKER_06: Right?
- 45:56SPEAKER_06: Because there's a descending chromatic rip.
- 46:01SPEAKER_06: One minute seven seconds.
- 46:14SPEAKER_06: So this this is not the first time.
- 46:17SPEAKER_06: So this also is not the first.
- 46:19SPEAKER_06: No, the appearance.
- 46:26SPEAKER_06: We're at about a minute.
- 46:40SPEAKER_04: What did that remind me of?
- 46:46SPEAKER_06: It reminded me of something else.
- 46:47SPEAKER_04: It did me too.
- 46:49SPEAKER_04: It's not coming to me.
- 46:50SPEAKER_06: Me either.
- 46:51SPEAKER_06: Alright, number three from Fly by Night.
- 46:54SPEAKER_06: Fly by Night.
- 46:55SPEAKER_06: Can you think of a heavy song on Fly by Night?
- 46:58SPEAKER_06: Anthem?
- 46:58SPEAKER_06: Yes.
- 46:59SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 46:59SPEAKER_06: It is.
- 47:00SPEAKER_06: It's Anthem.
- 47:07SPEAKER_04: This is the first album with Neil.
- 47:10SPEAKER_04: So this is when it starts getting into the weird.
- 47:13SPEAKER_04: The progressive progressive.
- 47:25SPEAKER_06: I would say that's heavy.
- 47:26SPEAKER_04: I mean, you listen to the stuff that Neil's doing with that there.
- 47:29SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 47:30SPEAKER_04: You're just like, who is this guy?
- 47:32SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 47:32SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
- 47:37SPEAKER_06: Alright, one more.
- 47:38SPEAKER_06: Number two.
- 47:39SPEAKER_06: Because we already know that number one is Working Man.
- 47:41SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 47:42SPEAKER_06: So number two is.
- 47:48SPEAKER_06: Oh, wait a minute.
- 47:52SPEAKER_06: Uh so I will just.
- 47:58SPEAKER_06: Rush really leaned into the whole grunge thing with this next song.
- 48:02SPEAKER_06: So it's fitting that their equally dark music video got roasted on Beavis and Butthead.
- 48:08SPEAKER_06: The guitar the guitar style's kind of cool.
- 48:12SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
- 48:13SPEAKER_05: Adds Butthead, if you happen to be a wood.
- 48:18SPEAKER_06: Neil Peart said the song verges on parody for Rush, sought to bring a touch of elegance through Latin and jazz fusion accents.
- 48:27SPEAKER_06: But the riffs are all brooding 90s riff rock.
- 48:30SPEAKER_06: Do you know what song?
- 48:32SPEAKER_04: No idea.
- 48:33SPEAKER_06: Stick it out.
- 48:34SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 48:35SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 48:47SPEAKER_06: That sounds heavy.
- 48:48SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 48:49SPEAKER_00: Heavy is trust to your instinct.
- 48:55SPEAKER_00: It's safely restrained.
- 49:00SPEAKER_00: Lightning out.
- 49:17SPEAKER_04: The roll of bones album.
- 49:19SPEAKER_06: No, it doesn't say.
- 49:23SPEAKER_06: The uh cover is a a bolt with a knife.
- 49:30SPEAKER_06: Oh, it's uh counterpart.
- 49:32SPEAKER_06: Counterpart.
- 49:32SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 49:36SPEAKER_04: The cover is uh, you know, when you said a bolt, I was like, oh yeah.
- 49:41SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 49:41SPEAKER_06: Alright, well there you go.
- 49:43SPEAKER_06: And of course the hit the heaviest would be Working Man according to UltimateClassicrock.com.
- 49:46SPEAKER_04: So I'm really surprised Earthshine is not on that.
- 49:49SPEAKER_04: Alright, now that you say that, I because I that's one of the heavier to me.
- 49:53SPEAKER_04: It's a very heavy song.
- 49:55SPEAKER_06: I have to hear it now, so because I don't know that I know that song.
- 50:00SPEAKER_06: So let's see.
- 50:03SPEAKER_06: Ooh, I just saw another new song.
- 50:05SPEAKER_06: Wonder if I can get back to it.
- 50:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 50:24SPEAKER_10: Well stop.
- 50:37SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I can see that.
- 50:38SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's way heavier than you know, sickness.
- 50:41SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, that's pretty hard.
- 50:43SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
- 50:44SPEAKER_06: That's just me.
- 50:45SPEAKER_06: All right, this was released nine hours ago from Frontiers Records.
- 50:50SPEAKER_06: Joel Hoax just 13.
- 50:52SPEAKER_06: Oh, he's got another album?
- 50:53SPEAKER_06: A new s or a new song.
- 50:54SPEAKER_06: New song.
- 50:55SPEAKER_06: Um Torn into Lieutenant I don't know if there's a singer or not.
- 51:14SPEAKER_04: There there usually is.
- 51:15SPEAKER_04: There was on the last one.
- 51:19SPEAKER_06: Oh.
- 51:20SPEAKER_06: Carmine Epic is playing now.
- 51:22SPEAKER_06: Ah.
- 51:23SPEAKER_06: Or a piece.
- 51:24SPEAKER_06: Or a piece.
- 51:25SPEAKER_06: Oh, there is a singer.
- 51:32SPEAKER_04: Does it say who it is?
- 51:42SPEAKER_06: Alright.
- 51:43SPEAKER_06: Joel Hoachster plays guitars.
- 51:47SPEAKER_06: No.
- 51:48SPEAKER_06: Get out of here.
- 51:49SPEAKER_06: Oh, it's not Carmine, it's Vinny.
- 51:51SPEAKER_06: Oh, it's Vinny?
- 51:51SPEAKER_06: So it's Vinny apiece.
- 51:52SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 51:53SPEAKER_06: Tony Franklin on bass.
- 51:55SPEAKER_06: Derek Trinian on keyboards.
- 51:57SPEAKER_06: Jeff Scott Toto on backing vocals.
- 52:00SPEAKER_06: What?
- 52:01SPEAKER_06: And on lead vocals, it's Gerish Pradon.
- 52:04SPEAKER_06: I don't know that guy.
- 52:05SPEAKER_06: I don't either.
- 52:08SPEAKER_06: Got a good voice.
- 52:08SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 52:09SPEAKER_04: I like it.
- 52:11SPEAKER_04: I did like that first album, Joe Hulk's a 13 album.
- 52:14SPEAKER_04: That was really good.
- 52:15SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 52:20SPEAKER_06: Because I think isn't Winger's new album on Frontiers?
- 52:23SPEAKER_06: Yes.
- 52:23SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 52:23SPEAKER_06: So is um The Revolution Saints.
- 52:26SPEAKER_06: Oh, is it?
- 52:27SPEAKER_06: Zarmocture.
- 52:28SPEAKER_06: I knew that.
- 52:28SPEAKER_06: I knew that.
- 52:29SPEAKER_06: Because Revolution Saints, I think, was um a product of Frontiers.
- 52:33SPEAKER_06: Probably.
- 52:33SPEAKER_06: I think they put them together.
- 52:34SPEAKER_06: They were put together, yeah.
- 52:36SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 52:37SPEAKER_06: I'm looking to see if they have uh like a release date or new album?
- 52:44SPEAKER_06: Yeah, something.
- 52:45SPEAKER_06: Joel Holkstra's 13 uh Far Too Deep was released four weeks ago.
- 52:52SPEAKER_06: So I don't know.
- 52:52SPEAKER_06: Is that an album?
- 52:53SPEAKER_06: Uh well there's a song here.
- 52:55SPEAKER_06: Let me let me go back to let me go back to this.
- 53:00SPEAKER_06: I'm so confused and see when it's coming out.
- 53:10SPEAKER_06: It's not out yet.
- 53:11SPEAKER_06: Because Joel Holkstra posted, please consider pre-ordering Crash of Life.
- 53:16SPEAKER_06: That's the name of the album.
- 53:18SPEAKER_06: Crash of Life.
- 53:19SPEAKER_06: Interesting title.
- 53:20SPEAKER_06: Uh there's no date given as to when it's coming out, though.
- 53:25SPEAKER_04: We're gonna pre-order it, Joel! Right.
- 53:29SPEAKER_04: You big silly, silly head.
- 53:32SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 53:33SPEAKER_06: Uh oh wait.
- 53:35SPEAKER_06: Uh there is Nope.
- 53:37SPEAKER_06: I thought there was gonna be there was going to be a a date given, but I don't see one.
- 53:45SPEAKER_06: Shop our US web store.
- 53:48SPEAKER_06: Yeah, no, I don't see uh Oh, wait, here we go.
- 53:52SPEAKER_06: From the album Crash of Life.
- 53:54SPEAKER_06: Buy or stream, subscribe to Frontiers.
- 53:57SPEAKER_06: Let me click on this and see if it's it's gives a release date.
- 54:01SPEAKER_06: Crash of Life actual hoax shows videos.
- 54:05SPEAKER_06: Let me just go to Amazon and see.
- 54:10SPEAKER_06: Pre-order price guarantee.
- 54:15SPEAKER_06: Free release day delivery.
- 54:17SPEAKER_06: This title will be released on June 16th.
- 54:19SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
- 54:20SPEAKER_04: Coming right up then.
- 54:21SPEAKER_06: Coming right up.
- 54:22SPEAKER_06: Noise.
- 54:22SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 54:23SPEAKER_06: So there's a there's another one.
- 54:24SPEAKER_06: I know.
- 54:26SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's it's so much good.
- 54:29SPEAKER_03: I can't handle it!
- 54:30SPEAKER_06: You know what it is.
- 54:31SPEAKER_06: It's like it's um the pandemic.
- 54:34SPEAKER_06: All these guys were like cooped up and they couldn't do anything, and then so they wrote all this music.
- 54:38SPEAKER_03: They're like, oh, time to release the kraken.
- 54:41SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 54:42SPEAKER_06: So that's good news, though.
- 54:43SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's good news.
- 54:44SPEAKER_06: More more good music.
- 54:45SPEAKER_06: Good, good, good, good, good.
- 54:47SPEAKER_06: Uh all right.
- 54:48SPEAKER_06: So that's that's that.
- 54:49SPEAKER_06: Let's let's let's do uh you have your book there?
- 54:52SPEAKER_06: You must have your book there somewhere.
- 54:53SPEAKER_04: I'm sure it's here somewhere.
- 54:55SPEAKER_06: Let's do the alphabet oh the heavy metal legends alphabet.
- 55:02SPEAKER_04: Oh no, stop this falling.
- 55:04SPEAKER_06: Courtesy of Beckfinder.
- 55:07SPEAKER_06: It's gotta be there.
- 55:08SPEAKER_04: Oh, it's right here.
- 55:09SPEAKER_04: It's under your iPad.
- 55:11SPEAKER_04: Ah and a rubber loop.
- 55:13SPEAKER_04: Oh, a tissue.
- 55:14SPEAKER_06: Oh tissue.
- 55:17SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 55:23SPEAKER_04: I believe so.
- 55:31SPEAKER_05: Well C is four weight metal.
- 55:41SPEAKER_06: Is it a is it a like hardcore metal band?
- 55:47SPEAKER_06: Or is it like uh what is that noise?
- 55:53SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 56:00SPEAKER_06: Somebody fell out there.
- 56:02SPEAKER_04: Nobody heard.
- 56:04SPEAKER_06: Um, that's you.
- 56:07SPEAKER_06: That's your shoe or something.
- 56:09SPEAKER_06: Okay, my bad.
- 56:10SPEAKER_06: My bad! But no, uh, let's see.
- 56:13SPEAKER_06: Metal and C.
- 56:15SPEAKER_06: Is it something like is it something stupid like cannibal corpse or something?
- 56:18SPEAKER_06: No.
- 56:19SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 56:19SPEAKER_06: So it's an it's a band that that we know.
- 56:21SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 56:22SPEAKER_06: You know very well.
- 56:23SPEAKER_06: We know very well.
- 56:24SPEAKER_06: C.
- 56:26SPEAKER_06: Cinderella?
- 56:27SPEAKER_06: No, that's not that's really not metal anyway, that's rock.
- 56:31SPEAKER_06: Uh Is it gonna kick me in the butt when I hear it?
- 56:37SPEAKER_06: Yeah, well.
- 56:38SPEAKER_06: Go ahead.
- 56:39SPEAKER_06: Motley Crew.
- 56:41SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
- 56:42SPEAKER_06: Uh they're not metal.
- 56:44SPEAKER_06: Well, they're glam.
- 56:45SPEAKER_06: They're glam.
- 56:46SPEAKER_06: They're hard rock.
- 56:47SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 56:47SPEAKER_04: Anyway, go ahead.
- 56:49SPEAKER_04: Ah, C's for Motley Crue with big riffs and bigger hair.
- 56:54SPEAKER_04: Motley Crew has mixed glam and heavy metal to kickstart your heart since 1981.
- 56:59SPEAKER_04: From Los Angeles' wild sunset strip, they're known as much for partying as for their epic live shows where legendary drummer Tommy Lee plays while rolling riding a roller coaster.
- 57:14SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 57:14SPEAKER_04: Alright.
- 57:15SPEAKER_04: Well there.
- 57:16SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
- 57:17SPEAKER_04: Thank you, Beck.
- 57:20SPEAKER_06: Uh before we um Yeah.
- 57:29SPEAKER_06: Motley Crew, of course, I they're they've been doing some music with John.
- 57:33SPEAKER_06: They're on tour with John Five.
- 57:34SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 57:34SPEAKER_06: Playing guitar.
- 57:35SPEAKER_06: And John Five talked to our buddy, Eddie Trunk, uh, recently, and he said that uh he said that they've been recording some music and it's heavier than anything Motley Crew has ever done.
- 57:46SPEAKER_04: Oh that's interesting.
- 57:47SPEAKER_06: So that's yeah, that is interesting.
- 57:49SPEAKER_06: Um I still think Doctor Feel Good is their best album, and they did that with Bob Brock.
- 57:54SPEAKER_06: I mean and the new stuff that they're working on is with Bob Rock.
- 57:57SPEAKER_04: Oh, wasn't it?
- 57:58SPEAKER_04: So it's got a good shot then.
- 58:00SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 58:00SPEAKER_06: Uh we wanted to talk about this real quick.
- 58:03SPEAKER_06: Uh let's see.
- 58:06SPEAKER_06: We did?
- 58:06SPEAKER_06: Yes, we did.
- 58:08SPEAKER_06: Because I I wanted to Oh, here we go.
- 58:12SPEAKER_06: Is this the actual song?
- 58:14SPEAKER_06: So Ed Sharon just won a lawsuit.
- 58:17SPEAKER_04: Oh, yes, yes.
- 58:18SPEAKER_06: Uh, from the family of Marvin Gay.
- 58:21SPEAKER_06: Now, to be honest with you, and I we've talked about this stuff before where songs sound so similar, and obviously, well, I shouldn't say obviously, but nine times out of ten, it's not intentional.
- 58:34SPEAKER_06: Yeah as a s as a songwriter, you know, things get in your head.
- 58:42SPEAKER_06: And if you're if you're writing a song and you you know, it's it's natural to just come up with something and have it sound like something else.
- 58:49SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 58:49SPEAKER_06: Um so Ed Sheeran was accused by Marvin Gaye's family of lifting something from Let's Get It On for his song Thinking Out Loud.
- 58:59SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 58:59SPEAKER_06: Now, when I have first heard the song Thinking Out Loud, I did not hear anything like Let's Get It On.
- 59:09SPEAKER_04: No, I didn't either.
- 59:10SPEAKER_06: So I've not put them together side by side to listen to what they're talking about.
- 59:15SPEAKER_06: Uh regardless, I shared one.
- 59:19SPEAKER_06: So he doesn't have to pay Marvin Gaye's family because they they uh decided that um he didn't lift it.
- 59:27SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 59:28SPEAKER_06: So let's just this there's this little piece right here.
- 59:31SPEAKER_01: Uh don't work like they used to before.
- 59:38SPEAKER_01: And I can't sweep you off of your feet.
- 59:42SPEAKER_01: Let's get it on.
- 59:44SPEAKER_01: I suppose that's now still a taste of my love.
- 59:47SPEAKER_04: That's a chord progression.
- 59:48SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 59:49SPEAKER_04: Well, that's what I just the only reason I even know anything about this is because I happen to catch the news and it was on the news.
- 59:57SPEAKER_10: That when he trying to hold back and feeling a soul baby man.
- 1:00:08SPEAKER_01: Hi, could stuff.
- 1:00:10SPEAKER_06: Oh, I still don't hear.
- 1:00:12SPEAKER_06: I mean, I hear it.
- 1:00:13SPEAKER_04: It's it's there, but it's not, it's it it's not intentional.
- 1:00:16SPEAKER_04: It's a different melody.
- 1:00:17SPEAKER_04: Yeah, completely different.
- 1:00:20SPEAKER_10: And if you feel I got feel, baby.
- 1:00:25SPEAKER_10: Come on.
- 1:00:27SPEAKER_10: Oh, come on.
- 1:00:34SPEAKER_10: Take me to 11.
- 1:00:36SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you can't own a chord progression.
- 1:00:38SPEAKER_04: Yeah, exactly.
- 1:00:39SPEAKER_04: And and when I saw this news, they had a they were talking to Ed Sheeran, and he's like, Well, most pop songs are written with four chords.
- 1:00:47SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:00:47SPEAKER_04: The same four chords.
- 1:00:49SPEAKER_04: So there's 12 notes you have to choose from.
- 1:00:51SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:00:51SPEAKER_04: So yeah, there's gonna be you know, there's gonna be some, you know, you know, copying or something, but it's not intentional.
- 1:00:59SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:01:00SPEAKER_04: You know?
- 1:01:00SPEAKER_04: But there was a there was a he did, he did I think this was during the last.
- 1:01:06SPEAKER_04: He was doing it live and he was doing that song, and then he he did like a medley of let's get it on.
- 1:01:12SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:01:13SPEAKER_04: So yeah, I think he just did it just because, you know, everybody was making such a big deal about it.
- 1:01:18SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:01:18SPEAKER_04: So um Yeah, I mean, look at uh But it wasn't I don't think he intentionally wrote that song, you know, thinking, Oh, this is oh, I like that song by Marvin Gaye, I'm gonna write, you know.
- 1:01:29SPEAKER_06: Well, I mean, we do a bit at the end of Wagon Wheel, right?
- 1:01:34SPEAKER_06: Where it's a four c four chord progression, and we sing Don't Stop Believin.
- 1:01:40SPEAKER_06: We sing Um Um Can You Feel the Love Tonight?
- 1:01:46SPEAKER_06: Yeah You know, we sing um I mean a ton of songs.
- 1:01:50SPEAKER_06: Yeah, U2 and uh Right.
- 1:01:52SPEAKER_06: Oh Aha.
- 1:01:52SPEAKER_06: Aha, yeah.
- 1:01:53SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 1:01:53SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I mean there's all four chord progression.
- 1:01:55SPEAKER_06: Yeah you know, and it's it's you can't you can't own a chord progression.
- 1:02:00SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 1:02:01SPEAKER_06: Um now you can you can own like like if you make up a melody that goes with that chord progression and then somebody writes a song that has the same melody and chord progression, okay.
- 1:02:11SPEAKER_06: I can see that.
- 1:02:12SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's you know that might uh that might be a little you know that's you know bordering on parody, I guess.
- 1:02:18SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but you know depending.
- 1:02:20SPEAKER_04: Unless your name's Weird Owl.
- 1:02:21SPEAKER_04: Right, you know.
- 1:02:22SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 1:02:23SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:02:23SPEAKER_06: So anyway, I just wanted uh to say kudos to Ed Sheeran for standing up for himself.
- 1:02:27SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:02:28SPEAKER_06: Uh not that we mean any disrespect to Marvin Gaye's family because I guess they were just looking out.
- 1:02:34SPEAKER_04: Well, honestly, I I like the Marvin Gay song better than I Oh yeah, me too.
- 1:02:38SPEAKER_06: Me too.
- 1:02:38SPEAKER_06: Oh, and you know that's the Ed Sheeran song that I will never ever sing.
- 1:02:43SPEAKER_06: Did I ever tell you this?
- 1:02:45SPEAKER_06: Um I had a uh young lady that wanted me to sing at her wedding.
- 1:02:51SPEAKER_06: And the first dance between the bride and the groom was gonna be that song.
- 1:02:56SPEAKER_06: And I'm thinking out loud.
- 1:02:59SPEAKER_06: And so I l learned it uh as best I could.
- 1:03:06SPEAKER_06: Uh I can't sing that high.
- 1:03:08SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:03:08SPEAKER_06: I mean I could, but I too I tuned it down a little bit so that I could hit those notes.
- 1:03:16SPEAKER_06: And as I'm playing it, you know, I'm I'm singing the verses okay, but I hear Ed Sharon in the back of my head.
- 1:03:27SPEAKER_06: How he goes up on the chorus, maybe so I got to the chorus and I started singing really high, but uh in the original key.
- 1:03:39SPEAKER_06: It was like it was like it was like I was singing that high, and I could not, for the life of me, find the note in the key I was playing in.
- 1:03:49SPEAKER_06: So I was playing in a different key, and I was singing in the original key, the too high, right?
- 1:03:55SPEAKER_06: My voice was straining, and I I ended up having to make a joke in the middle of it.
- 1:04:00SPEAKER_06: I like as they're dancing, I'm like, I told you I couldn't do this, you know.
- 1:04:04SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:04:04SPEAKER_06: And and actually I had one of her relatives come up and was singing with me, and she was trying to help me out.
- 1:04:12SPEAKER_06: It was the most embarrassing thing uh uh that I've ever gone through as a performer.
- 1:04:18SPEAKER_06: Sure.
- 1:04:18SPEAKER_06: And I said, I will never sing that song again.
- 1:04:22SPEAKER_04: Ed Sheeran is dead to me.
- 1:04:24SPEAKER_06: Dead, the E D dead.
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- 1:07:04SPEAKER_06: Uh okay, so it's time to climb the wall of tunes.
- 1:07:09SPEAKER_06: Calm.
- 1:07:10SPEAKER_04: So you're gonna Oh, I gotta tell the joke that Cousin Larry sent.
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- 1:07:27SPEAKER_04: Alright, so this is this is from Cousin Larry.
- 1:07:30SPEAKER_04: He sent this, he sent this.
- 1:07:31SPEAKER_06: Okay, I'm gonna look for an album.
- 1:07:33SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:07:33SPEAKER_04: A guy walks into a bar in a big city and sits down at the bar.
- 1:07:37SPEAKER_04: The guy on the stool next to him turns to him and says, Did you know that if you jump off the roof of the skyscraper next door, the wind shears between it and the skyscraper next to it will pick uh pick you up and drop you on the opposite skyscraper.
- 1:07:52SPEAKER_04: The guy tells him he's crazy, but the other guy insists it's true and offers to prove it.
- 1:07:57SPEAKER_04: They go outside and walk to the first skyscraper and go in.
- 1:08:00SPEAKER_04: They take the elevator to the top and the guy jumps off and whoosh.
- 1:08:04SPEAKER_04: The wind picks him up and deposits him on the roof of the opposite skyscraper.
- 1:08:08SPEAKER_04: He yells to the other guy to try it.
- 1:08:10SPEAKER_04: The guy jumps off and plummets to his death.
- 1:08:13SPEAKER_04: The other guy goes back to the bar and sits down.
- 1:08:15SPEAKER_04: The bartender looks at him and says, You sure are a mean drunk Superman.
- 1:08:23SPEAKER_01: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
- 1:08:28SPEAKER_04: I like that one.
- 1:08:29SPEAKER_04: That's from Cousin Larry.
- 1:08:31SPEAKER_06: Um So um a guy at the Olympics runs into uh a guy uh that's holding a big long stick, and he asks him, he says, Are you a pole vaulter?
- 1:08:43SPEAKER_06: Uh he says, No, I'm German, but how did you know my name is Volter?
- 1:08:49SPEAKER_05: Thank you very much.
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_06: What was the one that you told Friday night at the gig?
- 1:08:55SPEAKER_06: My uh geography teacher asked me if uh told me or asked me if I could name any country without an R in it.
- 1:09:02SPEAKER_06: So I said, no way.
- 1:09:06SPEAKER_05: See, that one's funny.
- 1:09:08SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
- 1:09:10SPEAKER_05: Um okay, I have an album.
- 1:09:14SPEAKER_04: Yay! Yay! Good for you! Thank you.
- 1:09:17SPEAKER_04: Ah, I guess that's the podcast.
- 1:09:19SPEAKER_04: I'm I'm done.
- 1:09:20SPEAKER_04: No.
- 1:09:20SPEAKER_04: Let the guessing begin.
- 1:09:22SPEAKER_04: Alright.
- 1:09:25SPEAKER_04: Is it a solo artist?
- 1:09:27SPEAKER_04: It's a band.
- 1:09:28SPEAKER_04: It's a band.
- 1:09:29SPEAKER_04: Is it a rock band?
- 1:09:30SPEAKER_06: Yes.
- 1:09:31SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:09:33SPEAKER_04: Knockin'.
- 1:09:34SPEAKER_04: No.
- 1:09:35SPEAKER_04: Easy easy.
- 1:09:37SPEAKER_04: White line.
- 1:09:38SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 1:09:42SPEAKER_04: I laugh at it just when I just started ranting and I just hit it.
- 1:09:46SPEAKER_04: And I hit it.
- 1:09:48SPEAKER_04: But I won't.
- 1:09:49SPEAKER_04: Height of popularity.
- 1:09:52SPEAKER_06: Height of popularity, I'm gonna say 70s.
- 1:09:55SPEAKER_06: Oh, interesting.
- 1:09:57SPEAKER_06: Mid to late 70s.
- 1:10:02SPEAKER_04: Mid to late 70s.
- 1:10:05SPEAKER_06: Game game changer of an album.
- 1:10:09SPEAKER_04: They only had one album?
- 1:10:10SPEAKER_06: Nope.
- 1:10:11SPEAKER_06: The one that they had in the late in the 70s was a game changer.
- 1:10:21SPEAKER_04: Game changer album from the 70s.
- 1:10:28SPEAKER_04: Alright.
- 1:10:29SPEAKER_04: Any more clues?
- 1:10:31SPEAKER_04: How many people in the night?
- 1:10:35SPEAKER_06: At this point, I don't know, five?
- 1:10:38SPEAKER_06: Five?
- 1:10:39SPEAKER_06: Maybe?
- 1:10:40SPEAKER_06: Four?
- 1:10:40SPEAKER_06: Five.
- 1:10:41SPEAKER_06: Is it a rosmath?
- 1:10:42SPEAKER_06: No.
- 1:10:45SPEAKER_06: Most of the work is done by one person.
- 1:10:55SPEAKER_06: The debut album was released in the 70s.
- 1:10:58SPEAKER_06: And essentially it was uh you remember how Collective Souls first album was one guy, basically, uh, that was recorded, it was like a demo album.
- 1:11:11SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 1:11:12SPEAKER_06: And the record company is like, oh, this is awesome.
- 1:11:14SPEAKER_06: We're gonna put it out as it is.
- 1:11:17SPEAKER_06: This is kinda like that, but in the 70s.
- 1:11:25SPEAKER_04: Game changer album.
- 1:11:29SPEAKER_04: Any iconic songs?
- 1:11:31SPEAKER_06: Oh yes.
- 1:11:32SPEAKER_06: Oh yes, lots.
- 1:11:37SPEAKER_04: They're still around.
- 1:11:39SPEAKER_06: Yes, in one form or another, yes.
- 1:11:44SPEAKER_06: Uh I will say, let's see.
- 1:11:46SPEAKER_06: Um there is a certified genius in this band.
- 1:11:54SPEAKER_06: No, it's not Brian May.
- 1:11:56SPEAKER_04: I wasn't even thinking Brian May.
- 1:11:59SPEAKER_04: But now I am.
- 1:12:01SPEAKER_06: Because Brian May is what, like a physicist?
- 1:12:03SPEAKER_06: He's an astrophysicist.
- 1:12:04SPEAKER_06: Astrophysicist, yeah.
- 1:12:06SPEAKER_06: This this person is a genius with technology.
- 1:12:15SPEAKER_04: Joe Walsh.
- 1:12:18SPEAKER_04: I think he's a secret genius.
- 1:12:21SPEAKER_06: Oh, I do too.
- 1:12:22SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:12:22SPEAKER_06: So this guy is this guy is an MIT genius.
- 1:12:31SPEAKER_04: He went to MIT and he and he's a musician.
- 1:12:34SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 1:12:36SPEAKER_06: He had a lot to do with the sound of Def Leopard.
- 1:12:44SPEAKER_06: One of his inventions.
- 1:12:46SPEAKER_05: Oh, it's uh it's uh it's a uh it's Boston.
- 1:12:49SPEAKER_05: It is Boston.
- 1:12:50SPEAKER_05: It's Tom Schultz.
- 1:12:51SPEAKER_06: It's Tom Schultz, yeah.
- 1:12:52SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:12:52SPEAKER_06: So yeah, the first album, the debut album, was essentially recorded in Tom Schultz's basement.
- 1:12:57SPEAKER_06: Right, right, right, right, yeah.
- 1:12:59SPEAKER_06: Um, but this album was a follow-up to their second album.
- 1:13:03SPEAKER_04: Is that it's called Third Stage.
- 1:13:04SPEAKER_04: Thursday, yeah, okay.
- 1:13:06SPEAKER_06: Um, and this had like two, maybe three hits on it.
- 1:13:12SPEAKER_06: Um I will say this album to me is very quiet.
- 1:13:20SPEAKER_06: That's one thing I can say about it.
- 1:13:22SPEAKER_06: Like, production-wise, it's not there's no songs on the CD?
- 1:13:25SPEAKER_06: No, no, there was a So I think so the first album was so huge, right?
- 1:13:32SPEAKER_04: I mean, you had Oh, I mean, More Than a Feeling.
- 1:13:36SPEAKER_04: Obviously, yeah.
- 1:13:38SPEAKER_06: Come on.
- 1:13:38SPEAKER_06: This is this is from the first album.
- 1:13:41SPEAKER_06: Uh More Than a Feeling.
- 1:13:43SPEAKER_06: Again, would you agree?
- 1:13:44SPEAKER_06: Game Changer.
- 1:13:45SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
- 1:13:46SPEAKER_06: Um Holy cow, were all of these songs released?
- 1:13:50SPEAKER_06: I think all of these songs were on the radio.
- 1:13:53SPEAKER_06: More than a Feeling, Peace of Mind, Foreplay Long Time, Rock and Roll Band, Smoking, Hitcha Ride, Something About You, Let Me Take You Home Tonight.
- 1:14:01SPEAKER_06: All released, I believe.
- 1:14:04SPEAKER_06: And then they had uh Don't Look Back, which was their second album.
- 1:14:08SPEAKER_06: Right, which I think was rushed.
- 1:14:10SPEAKER_06: Um, I think they were trying to capitalize.
- 1:14:12SPEAKER_06: Yeah, of course.
- 1:14:13SPEAKER_06: And they're they had two or three good songs on that, and the rest of it was just filler.
- 1:14:17SPEAKER_06: Uh, but then they waited a long time to release this one.
- 1:14:22SPEAKER_06: This came out in 1986, and you know, I want to say the wait paid off.
- 1:14:32SPEAKER_06: I really like this album.
- 1:14:33SPEAKER_06: I really, really like this album, but it's just so production-wise, the like you have to crank it because the volume is so low.
- 1:14:44SPEAKER_06: But you know this song, obviously.
- 1:14:50SPEAKER_06: I wish this was about a girl.
- 1:14:52SPEAKER_06: It is.
- 1:14:52SPEAKER_06: I wish this was remastered and the volume was kind of like uh Injustice for All.
- 1:14:58SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 1:15:00SPEAKER_04: You know, we've never done Boston.
- 1:15:02SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 1:15:03SPEAKER_04: No, this will be the first time.
- 1:15:04SPEAKER_06: That doesn't make any sense.
- 1:15:05SPEAKER_06: I thought we did the first album.
- 1:15:07SPEAKER_06: No?
- 1:15:11SPEAKER_06: Brad Delp, man.
- 1:15:12SPEAKER_06: The late great rest in peace.
- 1:15:17SPEAKER_06: What a vocalist.
- 1:15:18SPEAKER_06: One of the greatest, I think, ever.
- 1:15:20SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
- 1:15:21SPEAKER_06: Ever.
- 1:15:44SPEAKER_06: This is also a uh hello.
- 1:15:52SPEAKER_06: Yeah, this one was huge.
- 1:15:54SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
- 1:15:55SPEAKER_04: It's bigger than huge.
- 1:15:58SPEAKER_06: Um this whole album is actually quite mellow compared to the other one.
- 1:16:04SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, yeah.
- 1:16:04SPEAKER_06: I mean when you start the album with a ballad, what are we in for?
- 1:16:10SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 1:16:11SPEAKER_06: Here's track two.
- 1:16:12SPEAKER_06: This was released, this was uh a relative hit.
- 1:16:14SPEAKER_06: We're ready.
- 1:16:15SPEAKER_06: Do you remember this one?
- 1:16:17SPEAKER_06: Yes.
- 1:16:21SPEAKER_06: I almost think there's two instrumentals on here, too.
- 1:16:26SPEAKER_06: Or maybe three.
- 1:17:14SPEAKER_06: So Amanda, we're ready.
- 1:17:18SPEAKER_06: The launch, which I think is just I think that's a instrumental.
- 1:17:23SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but it's not really even an instrumental.
- 1:17:25SPEAKER_04: Just it's just sound.
- 1:17:27SPEAKER_04: Oh hello.
- 1:17:28SPEAKER_04: There you go.
- 1:17:30SPEAKER_06: Maybe it is an instrumental.
- 1:17:35SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 1:17:36SPEAKER_06: But then it goes into Cool the Engines.
- 1:17:38SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:17:38SPEAKER_06: Which I think was released as a single.
- 1:17:40SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it was, I think.
- 1:17:45SPEAKER_06: So this is track four.
- 1:17:48SPEAKER_06: There's My Destination.
- 1:17:52SPEAKER_04: Nah, I don't know if we ever released that one.
- 1:17:55SPEAKER_06: It's only two minutes.
- 1:17:58SPEAKER_06: That's why I'm wondering if it's an instrumental.
- 1:18:00SPEAKER_06: Uh it could be, yeah.
- 1:18:00SPEAKER_06: But maybe not.
- 1:18:02SPEAKER_06: Nope.
- 1:18:02SPEAKER_06: Nope.
- 1:18:03SPEAKER_08: But it's just a mixture.
- 1:18:07SPEAKER_06: Basically, Amanda on a piano.
- 1:18:10SPEAKER_08: Right?
- 1:18:10SPEAKER_05: It's Amanda.
- 1:18:11SPEAKER_05: So your destination is Amanda.
- 1:18:13SPEAKER_05: Yes, we have.
- 1:18:14SPEAKER_05: We were we had a lot of writing on this melody.
- 1:18:19SPEAKER_03: You know what would be really funny?
- 1:18:22SPEAKER_03: We took Amanda and did a piano and they called it my destination.
- 1:18:26SPEAKER_08: Nobody will ever know.
- 1:18:28SPEAKER_08: It's by your side.
- 1:18:30SPEAKER_05: Oh, they do change it a little bit.
- 1:18:31SPEAKER_05: Yeah, a little bit.
- 1:18:37SPEAKER_06: Awful drum sound.
- 1:18:39SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's a really uh very 80s drums.
- 1:18:43SPEAKER_06: Then you have this track six, A New World, which is a 30-second instrumental, which goes into to be a man.
- 1:18:59SPEAKER_06: Track seven.
- 1:19:01SPEAKER_08: What does it take to be a man?
- 1:19:07SPEAKER_08: What does it take to see it's all hard and so a gentle hair, so easy to want, and so hard to give?
- 1:19:18SPEAKER_05: I just love Brad Delp's voice.
- 1:19:20SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
- 1:19:20SPEAKER_05: I can lose that guy forever.
- 1:19:22SPEAKER_08: Do you see beyond the life you live?
- 1:19:26SPEAKER_08: Oh what does it take to be a man?
- 1:19:45SPEAKER_06: I think I like it.
- 1:19:47SPEAKER_06: The name of this one.
- 1:19:48SPEAKER_06: Oh, and this is Better Down by the Owl.
- 1:19:51SPEAKER_06: This is Track 8.
- 1:19:55SPEAKER_06: Also, the production on it is kind of and when I say Def Leopard, a lot of people don't know that uh Tom Schultz invented something called the Rockman, which is a a actually one of the first plugins, basically, where they don't have to use amplifiers.
- 1:20:21SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 1:20:22SPEAKER_06: So the guys from Def Leopard, when they were making Hysteria, they used Rockman's instead of amplifiers to make the album.
- 1:20:30SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:20:32SPEAKER_06: So anyway, what I was saying about the track order, this is I think I like it, track eight.
- 1:20:37SPEAKER_06: And then it says track nine is can't you stay?
- 1:20:42SPEAKER_06: Dash.
- 1:20:43SPEAKER_06: Track ten is still in love.
- 1:20:48SPEAKER_06: And then track eleven is Holly Ann.
- 1:20:52SPEAKER_06: Now, when I have it in my iTunes, it says track nine is can't you stay slash still in love, track ten is Holly Ann.
- 1:21:01SPEAKER_04: Oh trying to try to get away with something.
- 1:21:04SPEAKER_04: Something's something is uh something's strange.
- 1:21:10SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, I know the song.
- 1:21:11SPEAKER_04: Can't you say it to me to me?
- 1:21:14SPEAKER_06: Again, Brad Dill.
- 1:21:22SPEAKER_06: See what I mean though, it's extra mellow compared compared to the other piano.
- 1:21:27SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:21:28SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:21:28SPEAKER_06: Which I guess, which I think is also Tom Schultz.
- 1:21:32SPEAKER_04: Well, I I believe that.
- 1:21:34SPEAKER_04: I mean he is a genius, so.
- 1:21:36SPEAKER_06: Yes.
- 1:21:37SPEAKER_06: I'll double check here.
- 1:21:40SPEAKER_06: This is a great melody, though.
- 1:22:09SPEAKER_06: Tom Schultz plays basically all of the instruments.
- 1:22:13SPEAKER_06: Except for drums.
- 1:22:15SPEAKER_06: Uh Brad Delt does all the vocals.
- 1:22:17SPEAKER_04: Oh, of course.
- 1:22:18SPEAKER_06: And this one here, an underrated one from this album.
- 1:22:20SPEAKER_06: I've always liked this.
- 1:22:21SPEAKER_06: This is Holly Ann.
- 1:22:23SPEAKER_06: But again, really mellow.
- 1:22:25SPEAKER_04: Really mellow.
- 1:22:26SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the whole album seems to very, you know, just very chill.
- 1:22:29SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:22:29SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:22:30SPEAKER_04: It's like the easy listening of rock.
- 1:22:32SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:22:33SPEAKER_06: It's good stuff.
- 1:22:34SPEAKER_04: I like it, yeah.
- 1:22:35SPEAKER_04: But in my mind.
- 1:22:41SPEAKER_08: I can see remind us of a past decay.
- 1:22:48SPEAKER_08: So far behind.
- 1:22:50SPEAKER_08: Like the shadows linger at the close of day.
- 1:22:59SPEAKER_06: It's like we would tell.
- 1:23:02SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah, it's like you're waiting.
- 1:23:03SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:23:04SPEAKER_04: You're waiting for that big chorus.
- 1:23:05SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 1:23:06SPEAKER_06: You know what I mean?
- 1:23:07SPEAKER_05: It's just kind of trudging along.
- 1:23:09SPEAKER_11: In the dawning age we had so much to say.
- 1:23:15SPEAKER_04: Okay, we're getting closer.
- 1:23:23SPEAKER_04: Now we're kind of jogging.
- 1:23:25SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
- 1:23:26SPEAKER_04: Jogging along the path.
- 1:23:27SPEAKER_04: Oh, oh, oh.
- 1:23:29SPEAKER_04: Oh, a bear just came out of the woods.
- 1:23:34unknown: Run for your boy!
- 1:23:37SPEAKER_06: But it's the same like guitar riff of all the other songs.
- 1:23:42SPEAKER_03: It's the Boston.
- 1:23:43SPEAKER_03: It's the signature.
- 1:23:44SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a signature sound.
- 1:23:46SPEAKER_06: But you know, I mean, there's a reason that it's on my wall of tunes.
- 1:23:49SPEAKER_06: I do like the album.
- 1:23:51SPEAKER_06: Uh and I like I like Boston.
- 1:23:52SPEAKER_06: I like Boston, man.
- 1:23:53SPEAKER_06: We actually we actually opened for a couple members of the Boston.
- 1:23:58SPEAKER_06: Yes, they Ernie and the Automatics came up and and um played and that had uh Sib on drums.
- 1:24:06SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 1:24:06SPEAKER_06: Uh and uh who else was oh Barry uh don't ask me there.
- 1:24:12SPEAKER_06: Barry Goudreaux on on guitar.
- 1:24:15SPEAKER_06: I think that was it from Boston, wasn't it?
- 1:24:18SPEAKER_04: But who did we talk to for like an hour after the show?
- 1:24:22SPEAKER_06: It was the singer and the singer and uh the bass player No because isn't the bass player Ernie?
- 1:24:32SPEAKER_06: No, Ernie played guitar.
- 1:24:33SPEAKER_06: Oh, like guitar.
- 1:24:34SPEAKER_04: It might have been the bass player.
- 1:24:35SPEAKER_04: I think it was.
- 1:24:36SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:24:36SPEAKER_04: Because it wasn't it wasn't the Sib and it wasn't uh uh Barry Goudreau.
- 1:24:42SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but uh I'm pretty sure it was the lead singer.
- 1:24:44SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:24:44SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I think you're right.
- 1:24:45SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we talked to him for like an hour.
- 1:24:47SPEAKER_06: Yeah, very nice, very nice, very nice guy.
- 1:24:49SPEAKER_04: Yeah, very cool.
- 1:24:49SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:24:50SPEAKER_06: Uh and that also featured uh the guy on saxophone was from um uh John Fogarty's John Cafferty.
- 1:24:57SPEAKER_06: John Cafferty.
- 1:24:57SPEAKER_06: John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band.
- 1:24:59SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:24:59SPEAKER_06: Uh the Eddie and the Cruisers movies.
- 1:25:01SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:25:01SPEAKER_04: We never I don't think we talked to him.
- 1:25:03SPEAKER_06: I don't think so either, but he was great.
- 1:25:05SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he was super good, yeah.
- 1:25:07SPEAKER_06: Alright, so there you go.
- 1:25:09SPEAKER_06: Boston's third stage album, which came out in 1986.
- 1:25:14SPEAKER_04: Uh when did the first album come out?
- 1:25:15SPEAKER_04: It was like 76.
- 1:25:16SPEAKER_06: 76.
- 1:25:18SPEAKER_06: 76, 78, 76.
- 1:25:20SPEAKER_06: So we had three albums in the span of ten years.
- 1:25:22SPEAKER_06: Um span of ten years, yeah, probably.
- 1:25:28SPEAKER_04: Um because if you look at look at Well, I mean their discography is not very big.
- 1:25:32SPEAKER_06: No, it's not.
- 1:25:34SPEAKER_06: But I mean, they're still living off the first album, I'm sure, because it's one of the best-selling albums.
- 1:25:38SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean, you can't get away from that album albums of all time.
- 1:25:42SPEAKER_06: Uh that was huge.
- 1:25:44SPEAKER_06: Let's see.
- 1:25:46SPEAKER_06: I want to look for George Boston.
- 1:25:51SPEAKER_06: It was George.
- 1:25:53SPEAKER_06: Um, Boston came out in 76.
- 1:25:56SPEAKER_06: Don't look back came out in 78.
- 1:25:59SPEAKER_06: Third stage came out in 86.
- 1:26:03SPEAKER_06: Three hours, three hours and ten years ago.
- 1:26:05SPEAKER_06: And then Walker came out in ninety-four.
- 1:26:13SPEAKER_06: And then one called Corporate America in 2002.
- 1:26:16SPEAKER_06: Life Love and Hope in 2003.
- 1:26:20SPEAKER_06: This is interesting.
- 1:26:24SPEAKER_06: Wikipedia has um the whole spaceship theme that Boston has on their album coverage.
- 1:26:31SPEAKER_06: Boston, 1976.
- 1:26:32SPEAKER_06: Two long lines of guitar-shaped starships.
- 1:26:35SPEAKER_06: Hopefully, a planet that is breaking apart.
- 1:26:36SPEAKER_06: The ships all have blue flames coming out of the bottom.
- 1:26:40SPEAKER_06: Thank you, Wikipedia.
- 1:26:42SPEAKER_06: Don't look back in nineteen seventy-eight.
- 1:26:43SPEAKER_06: The Boston ship is flying low, or perhaps hovering over a grassy crystalline planet.
- 1:26:48SPEAKER_06: The ship has searchlights on.
- 1:26:51SPEAKER_06: Third stage.
- 1:26:52SPEAKER_06: Shall I go ahead and describe everything?
- 1:26:54SPEAKER_06: Third stage.
- 1:27:03SPEAKER_06: Wow.
- 1:27:05SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 1:27:06SPEAKER_06: I guess.
- 1:27:07SPEAKER_06: Walk on, the Boston ship is shown crashing through a rock outcropping.
- 1:27:12SPEAKER_06: Greatest hits.
- 1:27:13SPEAKER_06: The Boston ship is flying low over a planet with turquoise rocks and a turquoise tower in the distance.
- 1:27:18SPEAKER_06: Corporate America, the Boston ship is flying towards Earth and the United States.
- 1:27:22SPEAKER_06: Life, love, and hope.
- 1:27:23SPEAKER_06: The Boston ship is flying in space near a nebula.
- 1:27:27SPEAKER_06: This is a lot of uh Wikipedia people that have a lot of time on their own.
- 1:27:33SPEAKER_04: We're gonna describe every single album cover.
- 1:27:37SPEAKER_04: Because I have nothing better to do.
- 1:27:42SPEAKER_04: And they have current members too.
- 1:27:44SPEAKER_06: So yeah, they are they are current.
- 1:27:45SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 1:27:48SPEAKER_06: Alright, so there you go.
- 1:27:49SPEAKER_06: Lost in the third stage is the album of the week.
- 1:27:52SPEAKER_06: And that's gonna wrap it up for episode 150.
- 1:27:56SPEAKER_06: 150.
- 1:27:57SPEAKER_06: 150.
- 1:27:59SPEAKER_06: That's crazy.
- 1:27:59SPEAKER_06: It is crazy.
- 1:28:00SPEAKER_06: So crazy.
- 1:28:01SPEAKER_06: Uh alright, so I guess until next week where I'll have all kinds of things to tell you about from the Allstate Music Festival.
- 1:28:07SPEAKER_06: Yes.
- 1:28:08SPEAKER_06: Should be fun.
- 1:28:08SPEAKER_06: Should be music.
- 1:28:09SPEAKER_06: Music.
- 1:28:10SPEAKER_06: Let's talk about music.
- 1:28:11SPEAKER_06: Festive.
- 1:28:12SPEAKER_06: I know we get we get to go see a um rhythm and blues band.
- 1:28:16SPEAKER_06: Main the main rhythm and blues band or something like that on Friday night, I think it is, Thursday or Friday night.
- 1:28:23SPEAKER_06: Uh so I'm excited to compare them to the Syndicate and see what to see how much better we are?
- 1:28:28SPEAKER_06: No, no, no, no.
- 1:28:30SPEAKER_06: No, no.
- 1:28:32SPEAKER_06: Well maybe.
- 1:28:34SPEAKER_06: We'll wait and see.
- 1:28:35SPEAKER_06: I think it's I think it's a little different.
- 1:28:36SPEAKER_06: I think we play we play a little bit of everything and they play mostly rhythm and blues.
- 1:28:41SPEAKER_04: I think that's the one I saw then uh that article I read about they have host workshops for kids.
- 1:28:48SPEAKER_06: I think you're right.
- 1:28:49SPEAKER_06: I think that's that.
- 1:28:50SPEAKER_06: Because I think they're tied into the Allstate Music Festival.
- 1:28:53SPEAKER_06: I think I think they're maybe they're gonna do something with kids or they're gonna talk to the kids.
- 1:28:57SPEAKER_06: That'd be good.
- 1:28:58SPEAKER_06: Or something.
- 1:28:58SPEAKER_06: So that's that'll I'm looking forward to that.
- 1:29:00SPEAKER_06: More kids in music.
- 1:29:02SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
- 1:29:03SPEAKER_06: Um I'm looking forward to that.
- 1:29:04SPEAKER_06: Um so I'll have an update on that next week.
- 1:29:08SPEAKER_06: That'll be good.
- 1:29:09SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:29:09SPEAKER_06: Yes.
- 1:29:10SPEAKER_06: Yes, and I'm sure we'll have some more music to preview.
- 1:29:12SPEAKER_04: Yes, have some.
- 1:29:13SPEAKER_06: Yes, have some.
- 1:29:15SPEAKER_05: All right.
- 1:29:15SPEAKER_05: Uh until next time.
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