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Harnessing Inspiration: The Art of Songwriting · Music Explored Podcast

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  At
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  right
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  now.
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  So
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  this
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  might
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  sound
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  weird,
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  but
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  does,
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  like,
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  do
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  songs
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  come
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  to
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  you
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  or
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  do
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  you
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  ever
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  sit
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  down
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  and
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  discipline
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  listen?
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  Like,
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  I'm
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  gonna
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  listen
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  to
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  the
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  beat
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  now,
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  and
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  I'm
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  gonna
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  try
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  to
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  make
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  something
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  now,
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  or
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  is
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  it
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  just
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  whenever
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  you
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  feel
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  it?
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  That's
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  when
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  you
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  grab
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  the
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  pen
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  and
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  you
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  really
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  start
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  trying
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  to
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  come
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  up
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  with
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  a
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  song.
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  That's
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  a
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  great
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  question,
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  because
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  I
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  find
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  that
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  when
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  I
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  try.
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  Yeah,
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  yeah.
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  When
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  I'm
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  trying.
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  Exactly.
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  Since
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  I
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  stuck
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  my
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  best
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  stuff
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  comes
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  to
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  me
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  all
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  in
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  one
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  thing.
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  Boom.
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  And
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  then
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  I'm
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  like,
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  oh,
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  my
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  gosh,
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  I
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  better
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  write
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  this
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  down
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  before
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  I
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  forget
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  it.
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  You
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  know
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  what
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  I
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  mean?
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  You
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  start
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  going,
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  going,
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  going
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  and
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  singing
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  and
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  trying
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  to
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  voice
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  note
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  it
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  or,
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  you
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  know,
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  to
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  remember.
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  But
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  I
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  find
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  anytime
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  I
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  try,
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  it's
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  epic
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  fail.
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  Right.
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  And
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  I
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  have
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  had
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  ideas
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  that
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  I
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  haven't
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  written
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  down
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  or
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  executed
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  or
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  even
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  say
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  I've
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  written
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  it
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  down
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  and
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  done
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  a
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  rough
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  thing.
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  Next
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  thing,
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  I
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  hear
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  somebody
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  else
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  is
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  singing
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  it
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  over
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  there.
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  So
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  I
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  feel
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  like
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  ideas
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  are
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  in
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  the
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  air
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  and
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  it's
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  a
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  matter
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  of.
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  I
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  totally
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  agree.
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  There's
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  only
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  seven
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  notes.
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  I
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  totally
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  agree.
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  Right.
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  So
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  once
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  in
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  a
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  while,
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  if
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  I
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  feel
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  stuck,
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  I
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  will
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  do
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  this.
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  And
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  this
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  is
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  strange,
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  but
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  I
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  will
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  do
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  this.
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  This
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  is
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  my
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  antenna.
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  Ah.
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  If
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  ideas
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  are
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  out
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  there,
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  she's
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  reaching
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  her
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  hand
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  up.
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  Reaching
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  my
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  hand
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  up.
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  But,
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  yeah,
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  I
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  just
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  feel
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  like
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  I'm
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  going
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  to
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  catch
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  something.
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  Right.
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  That's
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  incredible.
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  Hold
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  on.
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  You
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  raise
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  your
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  hand
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  so
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  that
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  people
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  come
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  help
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  you.
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  Or
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  you're
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  actually
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  antenna.
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  Okay,
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  that's
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  really
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  interesting.
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  Yeah.
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  It
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  is
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  also
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  interesting
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  that
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  Matt
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  just
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  stated
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  an
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  incorrect
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  fact
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  for
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  the
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  first
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  time
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  on
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  this
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  podcast.
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  Can't
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  tell
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  you
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  how
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  happy
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  I
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  am.
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  I'm
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  overwhelmed.
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  I'm
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  allowed
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  to
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  ask
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  if
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  a
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  fact
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  is
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  correct.
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  No,
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  no,
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  no.
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  You.
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  There
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  are
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  only
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  seven
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  notes
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  in
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  a.
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  Scale
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  per
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  song
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  plus
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  the
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  eighth
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  being
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  the
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  octave
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  you
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  can't
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  play.
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  There
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  are
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  12,
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  but
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  you
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  can't
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  just
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  play
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  those
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  12.
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  It
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  would
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  be
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  none
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  of
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  that.
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  No,
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  he
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  didn't.
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  Unless
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  you're
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  talking
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  about
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  atonal
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  music,
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  sir.
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  He
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  says
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  there's
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  passing
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  notes,
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  passing
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  chords.
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  They're
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  all
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  available.
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  I
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  have
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  in
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  context,
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  legit
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  thing
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  where
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  he
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  says
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  it,
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  but
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  I'll
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  show
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  you.
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  We'll
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  take
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  that
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  off.
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  We'll
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  take
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  it
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  off.
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  Yeah,
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  yeah.
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  Back
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  to
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  writing.
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  I
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  don't
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  know
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  what
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  I'm
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  talking
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  about.
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  No,
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  you
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  do.
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  Except
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  for
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  that.
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  When
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  did
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  you
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  realize,
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  like,
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  after
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  you.
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  You
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  wrote
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  your
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  first
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  song
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  and
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  I'm
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  trying.
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  This
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  is
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  why
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  I'm
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  asking.
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  What
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  was
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  it
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  like
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  exposing
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  what
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  you
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  wrote
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  to
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  someone
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  for
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  the
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  first
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  time.
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  Was
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  that
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  hard,
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  or
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  did
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  you
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  not
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  have
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  that
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  kind
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  of
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  nervousness
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  about,
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  like,
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  this
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  is
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  what
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  I
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  did.
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  What
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  do
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  you
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  think?
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  Because
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  I
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  know
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  what
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  that's
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  like
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  personally,
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  and
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  I'm
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  wondering,
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  someone
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  that's
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  been
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  successful,
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  what
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  was
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  that
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  first
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  moment
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  like?
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  Because
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  then
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  after,
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  it's
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  like,
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  okay,
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  I
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  can
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  do
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  this.
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  You're
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  fine.
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  But
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  that
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  first
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  time,
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  exposing
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  your
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  craft
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  or
• 2:40
  your
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  song,
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  did
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  you
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  have
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  any
• 2:41
  nerves
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  there
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  or
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  you
• 2:42
  didn't
• 2:42
  really?
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  A
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  little
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  bit.
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  I
• 2:43
  was
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  a
• 2:44
  little
• 2:44
  embarrassed.
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  Yeah.
• 2:45
  I
• 2:45
  was
• 2:45
  like,
• 2:45
  well,
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  I
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  wrote.
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  I
• 2:46
  wrote
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  a
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  song
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  to.
• 2:47
  You
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  know.
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  The
• 2:48
  first
• 2:48
  person
• 2:48
  I
• 2:48
  played
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  it
• 2:49
  to
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  is
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  probably
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  the
• 2:53
  guy
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  who
• 2:54
  gave
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  me
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  the
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  beat.
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  Right,
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  Right.
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  And
• 2:56
  I
• 2:56
  was
• 2:56
  like,
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  okay.
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  I
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  wrote
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  a
• 2:57
  song
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  to
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  one
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  of
• 2:59
  the
• 2:59
  things
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  you
• 2:59
  gave
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  me.
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  Yeah.
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  And
• 3:01
  I
• 3:01
  was
• 3:01
  like,
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  okay,
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  it's
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  the
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  first
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  song
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  I
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  ever
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  wrote.
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  Yeah.
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  Really?
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  And
• 3:08
  I
• 3:08
  laughed.
• 3:09
  He
• 3:10
  laughed,
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  and
• 3:11
  he
• 3:11
  said,
• 3:11
  that's
• 3:11
  brilliant.
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  There
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  you
• 3:13
  go.
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  Oh,
• 3:13
  you
• 3:13
  like
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  it?
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  And
• 3:16
  then
• 3:17
  we
• 3:17
  put
• 3:17
  it
• 3:17
  out
• 3:17
  on
• 3:17
  radio,
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  and
• 3:18
  lots
• 3:19
  of
• 3:19
  people
• 3:19
  liked
• 3:19
  it.
• 3:19
  I
• 3:20
  was
• 3:20
  like,
• 3:20
  oh,
• 3:20
  my
• 3:20
  God,
• 3:20
  they
• 3:20
  like
• 3:21
  it.
• 3:21
  But
• 3:22
  then
• 3:22
  there
• 3:22
  was
• 3:22
  like.
• 3:23
  Some
• 3:23
  people
• 3:23
  was
• 3:23
  like,
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  yo,
• 3:24
  that
• 3:24
  Dotty
• 3:25
  Gya.
• 3:25
  Oh,
• 3:25
  no,
• 3:26
  she
• 3:26
  don't
• 3:26
  want
• 3:26
  to
• 3:26
  come
• 3:27
  outside.
• 3:27
  Doty
• 3:28
  Gal.
• 3:29
  It's
• 3:30
  a
• 3:30
  song,
• 3:30
  man.
• 3:31
  No,
• 3:31
  I
• 3:31
  wrote
• 3:32
  it
• 3:32
  while
• 3:32
  I
• 3:32
  was
• 3:32
  cleaning.
• 3:33
  But
• 3:33
  I
• 3:33
  was
• 3:33
  cleaning.
• 3:34
  I
• 3:34
  was
• 3:34
  actually
• 3:34
  cleaning.
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  I'm
• 3:36
  just
• 3:36
  saying
• 3:36
  it's
• 3:37
  not
• 3:37
  fun.
• 3:37
  Right?
• 3:38
  Right.
• 3:38
  Oh,
• 3:38
  man.
• 3:39
  Doti
• 3:39
  gal.de
• 3:40
  gal
• 3:41
  there's
• 3:41
  always
• 3:42
  gonna
• 3:42
  be
• 3:42
  the
• 3:42
  N.
• 3:43
  That's
• 3:43
  right.
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  Part
• 3:44
  of
• 3:44
  the
• 3:44
  process.
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  When
• 3:45
  working
• 3:45
  with
• 3:46
  the
• 3:46
  kind
• 3:46
  of
• 3:46
  producer
• 3:47
  that
• 3:47
  makes
• 3:47
  beats
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  in
• 3:48
  particular,
• 3:49
  do
• 3:49
  you
• 3:51
  ever
• 3:51
  come
• 3:52
  up
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  with
• 3:53
  instrumental
• 3:54
  ideas
• 3:54
  and
• 3:55
  you
• 3:55
  tell
• 3:55
  them
• 3:55
  how
• 3:55
  to
• 3:55
  change
• 3:56
  that,
• 3:56
  or
• 3:56
  you
• 3:56
  really
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  sort
• 3:57
  of
• 3:57
  leave
• 3:57
  that
• 3:57
  to
• 3:57
  them?
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  Oh,
• 3:58
  no.
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  I
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  do
• 4:00
  have
• 4:00
  instrumental
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  ideas.
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  And
• 4:02
  to
• 4:02
  execute
• 4:02
  that,
• 4:03
  if
• 4:03
  you
• 4:03
  ever
• 4:03
  listen
• 4:04
  to
• 4:04
  the
• 4:05
  music
• 4:05
  that
• 4:05
  I
• 4:05
  do,
• 4:05
  there's
• 4:06
  so
• 4:06
  many
• 4:06
  harmonies.
• 4:07
  At
• 4:07
  first,
• 4:08
  I
• 4:08
  just
• 4:08
  had
• 4:08
  samples
• 4:09
  and
• 4:09
  stuff
• 4:09
  like
• 4:10
  that,
• 4:10
  or
• 4:10
  drum
• 4:10
  beats
• 4:10
  and
• 4:11
  stuff.
• 4:11
  So
• 4:11
  to
• 4:11
  actually
• 4:12
  make
• 4:12
  changes
• 4:12
  within
• 4:13
  the
• 4:13
  music.
• 4:13
  I
• 4:13
  did
• 4:13
  it
• 4:14
  with
• 4:14
  my
• 4:14
  backup
• 4:15
  harmonies
• 4:15
  to
• 4:17
  progress
• 4:17
  and
• 4:18
  to
• 4:18
  make
• 4:18
  changes
• 4:19
  within
• 4:19
  the
• 4:19
  music.
• 4:19
  Because
• 4:20
  normally
• 4:20
  a
• 4:21
  sample,
• 4:21
  it
• 4:21
  doesn't
• 4:22
  change.
• 4:22
  It's
• 4:22
  just
• 4:22
  a
• 4:23
  sample.
• 4:23
  It's
• 4:23
  never
• 4:23
  going
• 4:24
  anywhere.
• 4:24
  It's
• 4:24
  on
• 4:24
  repeat.
• 4:25
  It's
• 4:25
  looped.
• 4:25
  It's
• 4:26
  going
• 4:26
  again.
• 4:26
  Here
• 4:26
  we
• 4:27
  go
• 4:27
  around
• 4:27
  again.
• 4:27
  You
• 4:28
  know,
• 4:28
  like.
• 4:31
  That
• 4:31
  was
• 4:31
  almost
• 4:31
  James
• 4:32
  Brownie.
• 4:36
  It's
• 4:36
  weird.
• 4:36
  You're
• 4:37
  holding
• 4:37
  a
• 4:37
  mug
• 4:38
  with
• 4:38
  our
• 4:38
  faces
• 4:39
  on
• 4:39
  it.
• 4:39
  Am
• 4:39
  I?
• 4:40
  Yeah.
• 4:40
  Yeah.
• 4:40
  I
• 4:41
  was
• 4:41
  actually
• 4:41
  hoping
• 4:41
  that
• 4:41
  you
• 4:41
  would
• 4:42
  have
• 4:43
  seen
• 4:43
  that.
• 4:44
  It's
• 4:44
  so
• 4:44
  strange.
• 4:45
  I
• 4:45
  was
• 4:45
  actually
• 4:45
  hoping
• 4:45
  that
• 4:46
  you
• 4:46
  would
• 4:46
  have
• 4:46
  had
• 4:46
  turned
• 4:46
  the
• 4:47
  other
• 4:47
  way.
• 4:47
  So
• 4:47
  every
• 4:48
  step,
• 4:49
  like,
• 4:49
  this
• 4:49
  is
• 4:49
  so
• 4:50
  weird.
• 4:51
  Here
• 4:51
  we
• 4:51
  Go,
• 4:52
  everybody.
• 4:53
  Good.
• 4:53
  Now
• 4:53
  the
• 4:53
  little
• 4:54
  things
• 4:54
  that
• 4:54
  make
• 4:54
  me.
• 4:54
  I
• 4:55
  didn't
• 4:55
  even
• 4:55
  notice
• 4:55
  until
• 4:55
  they
• 4:55
  brought
• 4:56
  it
• 4:56
  up.
• 4:57
  This
• 4:57
  is
• 4:57
  how
• 4:58
  I
• 4:58
  spend
• 4:58
  my
• 4:58
  time.
• 4:58
  What
• 4:59
  do
• 4:59
  you
• 4:59
  like
• 4:59
  doing
• 4:59
  more
• 5:00
  writing,
• 5:00
  creating
• 5:01
  music
• 5:01
  or
• 5:01
  performing
• 5:02
  it
• 5:02
  in
• 5:03
  the
• 5:03
  manga?
• 5:03
  Yeah,
• 5:03
  100%
• 5:04
  performing.
• 5:05
  I
• 5:05
  mean,
• 5:05
  you
• 5:06
  know
• 5:06
  what?
• 5:06
  I
• 5:07
  love
• 5:08
  creating.
• 5:10
  It's.
• 5:10
  It's
• 5:11
  magic
• 5:11
  to
• 5:12
  have
• 5:12
  an
• 5:12
  idea
• 5:13
  that's
• 5:13
  easy
• 5:13
  in
• 5:13
  your
• 5:13
  head
• 5:14
  and
• 5:15
  then
• 5:15
  you
• 5:15
  bring
• 5:15
  it
• 5:16
  to
• 5:16
  life
• 5:16
  and
• 5:16
  other
• 5:16
  people
• 5:17
  can
• 5:17
  actually
• 5:17
  hear
• 5:17
  it.
• 5:18
  Yeah.
• 5:18
  It's
• 5:19
  actually
• 5:19
  an
• 5:19
  exciting
• 5:20
  thing.
• 5:21
  And
• 5:21
  one
• 5:22
  step
• 5:22
  further,
• 5:22
  they're
• 5:23
  singing
• 5:23
  it
• 5:23
  back
• 5:23
  to
• 5:23
  you.
• 5:24
  Yes,
• 5:25
  exactly.
• 5:26
  There's
• 5:26
  nothing
• 5:27
  like
• 5:27
  having
• 5:27
  people
• 5:28
  enjoy
• 5:28
  your
• 5:28
  music
• 5:29
  and
• 5:29
  sing
• 5:29
  it
• 5:29
  with
• 5:29
  you
• 5:30
  and
• 5:30
  tell
• 5:30
  you
• 5:30
  they
• 5:30
  love
• 5:31
  it.
• 5:31
  Or
• 5:31
  just
• 5:31
  to
• 5:31
  watch
• 5:32
  their
• 5:32
  faces
• 5:32
  in
• 5:33
  the
• 5:33
  audience
• 5:33
  as
• 5:33
  they're
• 5:33
  smiling
• 5:34
  and
• 5:35
  enjoying
• 5:35
  or
• 5:35
  dancing.
• 5:36
  You
• 5:36
  know,
• 5:37
  it's
• 5:37
  great.
• 5:38
  What.
• 5:39
  What
• 5:39
  do
• 5:39
  you
• 5:39
  hate
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  most
• 5:40
  about
• 5:41
  being
• 5:41
  a
• 5:41
  singer,
• 5:42
  songwriter,
• 5:42
  performer?
• 5:46
  I
• 5:46
  think
• 5:46
  that's.
• 5:47
  I
• 5:47
  hate
• 5:47
  comparisons
• 5:48
  and
• 5:48
  I
• 5:48
  hate
• 5:49
  when
• 5:49
  people
• 5:49
  try
• 5:50
  to
• 5:50
  make
• 5:50
  like,
• 5:50
  music
• 5:50
  as
• 5:51
  a
• 5:51
  competition.
• 5:52
  It's
• 5:52
  not
• 5:52
  a
• 5:52
  competition
• 5:53
  at
• 5:53
  all.
• 5:54
  Because
• 5:54
  music
• 5:54
  is
• 5:54
  just
• 5:55
  an
• 5:55
  expression.
• 5:55
  Right?
• 5:56
  An
• 5:56
  expression
• 5:57
  and
• 5:57
  sharing
• 5:58
  an
• 5:58
  emotion,
• 5:58
  a
• 5:59
  feeling,
• 5:59
  a
• 6:00
  vibe.
• 6:01
  There's
• 6:01
  nothing
• 6:01
  competitive
• 6:02
  about
• 6:02
  that.
• 6:02
  You
• 6:03
  feel
• 6:03
  the
• 6:03
  way
• 6:03
  you
• 6:03
  do,
• 6:03
  I
• 6:04
  feel
• 6:04
  the
• 6:04
  way
• 6:04
  I
• 6:04
  do.
• 6:05
  Whatever.
• 6:06
  This
• 6:06
  is
• 6:06
  a
• 6:06
  hot
• 6:06
  clip.
• 6:07
  That's
• 6:07
  a
• 6:07
  great
• 6:07
  point.
• 6:07
  I
• 6:08
  really,
• 6:08
  really.
• 6:08
  Yeah,
• 6:09
  that
• 6:09
  was
• 6:10
  a
• 6:10
  great
• 6:10
  way
• 6:10
  of
• 6:10
  saying
• 6:10
  it,
• 6:10
  too.
• 6:11
  It's
• 6:11
  not
• 6:11
  a
• 6:11
  competition.
• 6:12
  And
• 6:12
  I
• 6:12
  find
• 6:12
  that.
• 6:13
  Maybe
• 6:14
  I'm
• 6:14
  wrong,
• 6:14
  but
• 6:14
  I
• 6:14
  find
• 6:14
  women
• 6:15
  unfortunately
• 6:16
  end
• 6:16
  up
• 6:16
  in
• 6:16
  this
• 6:17
  competitive
• 6:17
  nature.
• 6:18
  Like,
• 6:18
  there's
• 6:18
  only
• 6:19
  certain
• 6:19
  spot
• 6:19
  that
• 6:19
  we
• 6:20
  can
• 6:20
  allow
• 6:20
  women
• 6:20
  to
• 6:20
  be
• 6:21
  stars
• 6:21
  when
• 6:21
  there's
• 6:22
  proof
• 6:22
  that
• 6:22
  that's
• 6:22
  not
• 6:23
  true.
• 6:23
  But
• 6:23
  I
• 6:24
  find
• 6:24
  that
• 6:24
  men
• 6:24
  aren't
• 6:25
  so
• 6:25
  competitive
• 6:26
  when
• 6:26
  it
• 6:26
  comes
• 6:26
  to
• 6:26
  music,
• 6:27
  as.
• 6:27
  Have
• 6:28
  you
• 6:28
  seen
• 6:28
  hip
• 6:28
  hop?
• 6:29
  Well,
• 6:29
  yeah,
• 6:29
  that's
• 6:30
  true.
• 6:30
  That's
• 6:30
  a
• 6:30
  good
• 6:30
  point.
• 6:31
  Hip
• 6:31
  hop,
• 6:31
  it's
• 6:32
  pretty
• 6:32
  competitive.
• 6:34
  Classical
• 6:34
  music
• 6:35
  is
• 6:35
  the
• 6:35
  most
• 6:35
  competitive.
• 6:36
  And
• 6:37
  what
• 6:37
  do
• 6:37
  you
• 6:37
  mean?
• 6:39
  Well,
• 6:39
  when
• 6:39
  we
• 6:39
  talk
• 6:39
  to
• 6:40
  Ellie,
• 6:40
  who's
• 6:40
  been
• 6:40
  through
• 6:41
  the
• 6:41
  classical
• 6:41
  circuit,
• 6:42
  it's
• 6:42
  just
• 6:42
  very
• 6:43
  like.
• 6:43
  Well,
• 6:43
  I
• 6:43
  do.
• 6:45
  Yes,
• 6:45
  good
• 6:45
  point.
• 6:46
  Okay.
• 6:46
  Doing
• 6:46
  the.
• 6:47
  Whatever.
• 6:47
  The
• 6:47
  Mozart
• 6:48
  interpretation.
• 6:49
  Okay.
• 6:50
  That
• 6:50
  is
• 6:50
  weird
• 6:51
  technicalities
• 6:51
  and
• 6:52
  things.
• 6:52
  Wonder
• 6:52
  why
• 6:52
  that
• 6:52
  happens.
• 6:53
  That
• 6:53
  is.
• 6:54
  Some
• 6:54
  people,
• 6:54
  they
• 6:54
  just
• 6:54
  like
• 6:55
  to
• 6:55
  hear
• 6:55
  themselves
• 6:55
  speak.
• 6:57
  You
• 6:57
  know
• 6:57
  what?
• 6:57
  There's
• 6:58
  certain
• 6:58
  personality
• 6:59
  disorders
• 6:59
  where
• 6:59
  people
• 7:00
  got
• 7:00
  a
• 7:00
  yammer
• 7:01
  on
• 7:01
  about
• 7:01
  themselves
• 7:01
  and
• 7:02
  what
• 7:02
  they
• 7:02
  think,
• 7:02
  and
• 7:02
  it's
• 7:03
  like,
• 7:03
  that's
• 7:03
  nice,
• 7:03
  but
• 7:03
  if
• 7:04
  it's
• 7:04
  in
• 7:04
  a
• 7:04
  condescending
• 7:05
  manner,
• 7:05
  you
• 7:05
  need
• 7:05
  to
• 7:05
  take
• 7:05
  it
• 7:06
  away
• 7:06
  from
• 7:06
  me.
• 7:06
  And
• 7:07
  those
• 7:07
  people
• 7:07
  are
• 7:07
  often
• 7:07
  artists.
• 7:11
  I
• 7:11
  also
• 7:11
  feel
• 7:11
  like
• 7:12
  the
• 7:12
  competitive
• 7:13
  spirit
• 7:13
  takes
• 7:14
  away
• 7:14
  from
• 7:14
  the
• 7:14
  creativity.
• 7:15
  Right?
• 7:15
  Yeah,
• 7:16
  it's
• 7:17
  a
• 7:17
  dark
• 7:17
  cloud.
• 7:17
  It
• 7:18
  doesn't
• 7:18
  feel
• 7:18
  good.
• 7:18
  I
• 7:19
  think
• 7:19
  the
• 7:19
  industry
• 7:19
  has
• 7:20
  something
• 7:20
  like
• 7:20
  the.
• 7:20
  The
• 7:21
  pressure
• 7:22
  tools
• 7:22
  and
• 7:22
  stuff.
• 7:22
  Yeah.
• 7:23
  Pressure
• 7:23
  to
• 7:23
  make
• 7:23
  it.
• 7:23
  The
• 7:24
  pressure
• 7:24
  to
• 7:24
  pop
• 7:25
  through.
• 7:25
  I'd
• 7:25
  say
• 7:26
  the
• 7:26
  other
• 7:26
  thing
• 7:27
  that
• 7:28
  might
• 7:28
  get
• 7:28
  in
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  way
• 7:29
  of
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  music.
• 7:29
  And
• 7:30
  let
• 7:30
  me
• 7:30
  know
• 7:31
  if
• 7:31
  this
• 7:31
  happens
• 7:31
  to
• 7:31
  you
• 7:32
  when.
• 7:32
  When
• 7:32
  you
• 7:32
  already
• 7:33
  have
• 7:33
  an
• 7:34
  audience
• 7:34
  that's
• 7:34
  expecting
• 7:35
  that
• 7:35
  liked,
• 7:36
  whatever
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  first,
• 7:37
  second,
• 7:37
  third
• 7:37
  song
• 7:38
  you've
• 7:38
  made,
• 7:38
  and
• 7:39
  is
• 7:39
  the
• 7:39
  pressure
• 7:40
  of
• 7:40
  making
• 7:41
  something
• 7:41
  that
• 7:41
  those
• 7:41
  fans
• 7:42
  will
• 7:42
  like,
• 7:43
  how
• 7:43
  much
• 7:43
  does
• 7:43
  that
• 7:43
  affect
• 7:44
  the
• 7:44
  songwriting
• 7:44
  for
• 7:45
  you?
• 7:45
  Zero.
• 7:45
  Good.
• 7:46
  Zero.
• 7:46
  I
• 7:46
  write
• 7:47
  for
• 7:47
  me.
• 7:47
  Good.
• 7:48
  I
• 7:48
  write
• 7:48
  to
• 7:48
  express
• 7:49
  myself
• 7:49
  and
• 7:49
  how
• 7:49
  I'm
• 7:50
  feeling
• 7:50
  in
• 7:50
  the
• 7:50
  moment.
• 7:51
  So
• 7:51
  impressing
• 7:51
  somebody
• 7:52
  is
• 7:52
  like,
• 7:52
  you
• 7:53
  know
• 7:53
  what?
• 7:53
  I'm
• 7:53
  here
• 7:54
  to
• 7:54
  impress
• 7:54
  myself.
• 7:55
  Are
• 7:55
  you
• 7:55
  impressed?
• 7:56
  Yes.
• 7:57
  Yeah.
• 7:58
  So
• 7:59
  are
• 7:59
  we.
• 8:00
  Do
• 8:01
  you.
• 8:01
  Do
• 8:01
  you.
• 8:01
  What
• 8:02
  do
• 8:02
  you
• 8:02
  picture?
• 8:02
  Do
• 8:02
  you
• 8:02
  picture,
• 8:03
  like,
• 8:03
  when
• 8:03
  you're
• 8:03
  writing
• 8:03
  or
• 8:04
  when
• 8:04
  you're,
• 8:04
  I
• 8:04
  guess,
• 8:05
  creating
• 8:05
  the
• 8:05
  songs?
• 8:05
  Are
• 8:06
  you
• 8:06
  thinking
• 8:06
  more
• 8:07
  live
• 8:08
  performance?
• 8:09
  Do
• 8:09
  you
• 8:09
  see
• 8:09
  that
• 8:10
  far
• 8:10
  ahead?
• 8:10
  Are
• 8:10
  you
• 8:10
  hearing,
• 8:11
  like,
• 8:11
  radio,
• 8:11
  or
• 8:11
  does
• 8:12
  it
• 8:12
  depend
• 8:12
  on
• 8:12
  the
• 8:12
  song
• 8:13
  and
• 8:13
  the
• 8:13
  vibe?
• 8:14
  No,
• 8:14
  I'm
• 8:15
  actually
• 8:15
  just
• 8:16
  in
• 8:16
  the
• 8:16
  moment
• 8:17
  creating
• 8:18
  a
• 8:18
  vibe
• 8:18
  for
• 8:18
  that
• 8:19
  moment.
• 8:20
  Because
• 8:20
  I.
• 8:21
  I
• 8:21
  don't
• 8:22
  think
• 8:22
  ahead
• 8:22
  to
• 8:23
  that
• 8:23
  stuff.
• 8:25
  Just.
• 8:25
  I
• 8:25
  don't
• 8:26
  know.
• 8:26
  I
• 8:26
  just
• 8:26
  haven't.
• 8:27
  That's
• 8:28
  good.
• 8:28
  Just
• 8:28
  in
• 8:28
  the
• 8:28
  present
• 8:29
  moment.
• 8:29
  In
• 8:29
  the
• 8:29
  present
• 8:30
  moment,
• 8:30
  expressing
• 8:31
  how
• 8:31
  I
• 8:31
  feel
• 8:31
  to
• 8:31
  try
• 8:32
  to
• 8:32
  relay
• 8:32
  that
• 8:32
  emotion
• 8:33
  within
• 8:33
  the
• 8:34
  music.
• 8:34
  Piece
• 8:35
  of
• 8:35
  work.
• 8:35
  Well,
• 8:35
  that's
• 8:35
  important.
• 8:36
  I
• 8:36
  asked
• 8:36
  that
• 8:36
  question
• 8:37
  because
• 8:37
  I
• 8:37
  know
• 8:37
  there's
• 8:37
  a
• 8:37
  lot
• 8:37
  of
• 8:37
  people
• 8:38
  who
• 8:39
  seem
• 8:39
  like
• 8:39
  they
• 8:39
  jumped
• 8:40
  the
• 8:40
  gun
• 8:40
  for
• 8:40
  sure
• 8:40
  in
• 8:41
  trying
• 8:41
  to
• 8:41
  create
• 8:42
  the
• 8:43
  moments
• 8:43
  that
• 8:44
  come
• 8:44
  after
• 8:44
  or
• 8:45
  beyond
• 8:45
  where
• 8:45
  you
• 8:46
  actually
• 8:46
  are
• 8:46
  now.
• 8:47
  They
• 8:48
  try
• 8:48
  and
• 8:48
  work
• 8:48
  backwards.
• 8:49
  Like,
• 8:49
  I
• 8:49
  want
• 8:49
  to
• 8:49
  do
• 8:49
  this,
• 8:50
  like,
• 8:50
  big
• 8:50
  song.
• 8:51
  It's
• 8:51
  gonna
• 8:51
  touch
• 8:52
  people.
• 8:52
  And
• 8:52
  then
• 8:52
  they
• 8:52
  try
• 8:52
  and
• 8:53
  make
• 8:53
  that
• 8:53
  song
• 8:54
  that
• 8:54
  touches
• 8:54
  people.
• 8:54
  It's
• 8:55
  gross.
• 8:55
  You
• 8:56
  can
• 8:56
  feel
• 8:56
  that
• 8:56
  every
• 8:57
  time.
• 8:58
  Exactly.
• 9:01
  And
• 9:02
  then
• 9:02
  he
• 9:02
  starts
• 9:03
  singing,
• 9:04
  we
• 9:04
  just
• 9:04
  gotta
• 9:04
  shut
• 9:04
  down.
• 9:07
  That
• 9:07
  was
• 9:07
  different.
• 9:08
  That
• 9:08
  whole.
• 9:08
  He
• 9:09
  did,
• 9:09
  like,
• 9:09
  40
• 9:09
  chapters
• 9:10
  of
• 9:10
  that
• 9:10
  in
• 9:10
  the
• 9:10
  closet.
• 9:11
  I
• 9:11
  know.
• 9:14
  I
• 9:14
  binged
• 9:15
  them
• 9:15
  all
• 9:15
  before.
• 9:16
  The
• 9:16
  Internet
• 9:16
  was
• 9:17
  easy
• 9:17
  to
• 9:17
  use,
• 9:18
  so
• 9:18
  it
• 9:18
  took
• 9:18
  me
• 9:18
  a
• 9:18
  whole
• 9:19
  day
• 9:19
  to,
• 9:19
  like,
• 9:19
  hunt
• 9:20
  down
• 9:20
  every
• 9:20
  episode
• 9:20
  and
• 9:21
  then
• 9:21
  sit
• 9:21
  there,
• 9:21
  let
• 9:21
  it
• 9:22
  buffer.
• 9:22
  And
• 9:22
  I
• 9:23
  died
• 9:23
  laughing
• 9:24
  for
• 9:24
  days
• 9:25
  after.
• 9:25
  That
• 9:25
  because
• 9:25
  nobody
• 9:26
  really
• 9:26
  understood
• 9:27
  how
• 9:27
  many
• 9:27
  there
• 9:27
  were.
• 9:28
  Yeah,
• 9:28
  there
• 9:29
  was,
• 9:29
  like,
• 9:29
  four.
• 9:29
  And
• 9:29
  you're
• 9:29
  like,
• 9:29
  wait,
• 9:30
  there's
• 9:30
  40.
• 9:32
  Do
• 9:32
  you
• 9:32
  go
• 9:32
  to
• 9:32
  the
• 9:32
  bathroom
• 9:33
  in
• 9:33
  this
• 9:33
  closet?
• 9:33
  What
• 9:33
  do
• 9:33
  you
• 9:34
  think?
• 9:34
  Yeah.
• 9:34
  So
• 9:35
  long.
• 9:35
  If
• 9:35
  you
• 9:35
  guys.
• 9:35
  If
• 9:36
  you
• 9:36
  guys
• 9:36
  are
• 9:36
  young
• 9:36
  and
• 9:36
  you
• 9:36
  haven't
• 9:37
  seen
• 9:37
  this,
• 9:37
  look
• 9:37
  up
• 9:37
  R.
• 9:38
  Kelly
• 9:38
  trapped
• 9:38
  in
• 9:39
  the
• 9:39
  closet
• 9:39
  and
• 9:40
  prepare
• 9:40
  to
• 9:40
  have
• 9:40
  a
• 9:40
  new
• 9:40
  life
• 9:41
  after
• 9:41
  that.
• 9:41
  Yeah,
• 9:41
  you're
• 9:42
  welcome.
• 9:42
  Yeah.
• 9:43
  I
• 9:43
  feel
• 9:43
  like
• 9:43
  we're
• 9:43
  not
• 9:43
  even
• 9:43
  allowed
• 9:44
  to
• 9:44
  say
• 9:44
  any
• 9:44
  of
• 9:44
  this
• 9:44
  for
• 9:45
  some
• 9:45
  weird
• 9:45
  reason.
• 9:47
  Power
• 9:47
  the
• 9:48
  bad
• 9:48
  guy.
• 9:48
  Yeah,
• 9:48
  we
• 9:49
  had
• 9:49
  that
• 9:49
  conversation
• 9:50
  of,
• 9:50
  like,
• 9:50
  because
• 9:50
  there's
• 9:51
  One
• 9:51
  song
• 9:52
  by
• 9:52
  him
• 9:52
  that,
• 9:53
  to
• 9:53
  me,
• 9:53
  it's
• 9:53
  like
• 9:55
  one
• 9:55
  of
• 9:55
  the
• 9:55
  best
• 9:55
  songs
• 9:56
  ever
• 9:56
  made.
• 9:56
  And
• 9:56
  I
• 9:56
  know
• 9:56
  it
• 9:57
  sounds
• 9:57
  weird
• 9:57
  saying
• 9:57
  it,
• 9:58
  but
• 9:58
  Step
• 9:58
  in
• 9:58
  the
• 9:58
  Name
• 9:59
  of
• 9:59
  Love
• 9:59
  to
• 9:59
  Me
• 9:59
  is
• 9:59
  one
• 10:00
  of
• 10:00
  those
• 10:00
  songs.
• 10:00
  You
• 10:00
  can
• 10:00
  be
• 10:00
  in
• 10:01
  the
• 10:01
  shittiest
• 10:01
  mood
• 10:02
  and
• 10:02
  that
• 10:02
  song
• 10:02
  comes
• 10:03
  on
• 10:03
  and
• 10:03
  you're
• 10:03
  going
• 10:03
  to
• 10:03
  bop.
• 10:04
  You're
• 10:04
  going
• 10:04
  to
• 10:04
  bop.
• 10:04
  You're
• 10:05
  going
• 10:05
  to
• 10:05
  forget
• 10:05
  about
• 10:05
  your
• 10:05
  problems.
• 10:06
  But
• 10:06
  then
• 10:06
  now
• 10:06
  you
• 10:07
  hear
• 10:07
  it
• 10:07
  and
• 10:07
  you
• 10:07
  just
• 10:07
  think
• 10:07
  of
• 10:07
  that
• 10:08
  gentleman.
• 10:08
  You're
• 10:08
  going
• 10:08
  to
• 10:09
  Guilty
• 10:09
  bop.
• 10:09
  Yeah.
• 10:11
  Guilty
• 10:11
  bop
• 10:11
  is
• 10:12
  a
• 10:12
  new
• 10:12
  genre.
• 10:13
  Guilty
• 10:13
  bop.
• 10:14
  All
• 10:14
  his
• 10:15
  music
• 10:15
  is
• 10:15
  guilty
• 10:15
  bop.
• 10:16
  Now.
• 10:16
  Ignition,
• 10:17
  all
• 10:17
  of
• 10:17
  it.
• 10:17
  It's
• 10:17
  all
• 10:18
  guilty
• 10:18
  bops.
• 10:19
  Even
• 10:19
  Fiesta.
• 10:20
  Did
• 10:21
  you
• 10:21
  guys
• 10:21
  see
• 10:21
  verses
• 10:22
  with
• 10:22
  Mr.
• 10:23
  Big?
• 10:23
  And
• 10:23
  that
• 10:24
  was
• 10:24
  beautiful.
• 10:24
  Earth,
• 10:24
  wind
• 10:25
  and
• 10:25
  Fire.
• 10:25
  Yeah,
• 10:25
  that
• 10:25
  was
• 10:26
  it.
• 10:26
  Earth,
• 10:26
  wind
• 10:27
  and
• 10:27
  fire.
• 10:27
  Was
• 10:27
  it
• 10:28
  not?
• 10:28
  Earth,
• 10:28
  wind
• 10:28
  and
• 10:28
  fire.
• 10:29
  Yeah.
• 10:29
  Yeah,
• 10:29
  you're
• 10:29
  right.
• 10:30
  So
• 10:30
  Mr.
• 10:30
  Big.
• 10:30
  Mr.
• 10:31
  Big.
• 10:31
  Mr.
• 10:31
  Big.
• 10:32
  This
• 10:32
  is
• 10:32
  Mr.
• 10:34
  Eisley
• 10:34
  Brothers.
• 10:35
  Yeah.
• 10:35
  Oh,
• 10:36
  damn.
• 10:36
  But
• 10:37
  did
• 10:37
  you
• 10:37
  know
• 10:37
  R.
• 10:38
  Kelly
• 10:38
  wrote
• 10:38
  a
• 10:39
  lot
• 10:39
  of
• 10:39
  stuff
• 10:39
  for
• 10:39
  him
• 10:39
  after.
• 10:40
  Yeah,
• 10:41
  yeah.
• 10:41
  Not
• 10:41
  the
• 10:41
  early
• 10:42
  stuff,
• 10:42
  obviously,
• 10:42
  but
• 10:43
  the
• 10:43
  later
• 10:43
  stuff.
• 10:43
  Yeah.
• 10:44
  So
• 10:44
  we're
• 10:44
  not
• 10:44
  allowed
• 10:44
  to
• 10:44
  like
• 10:45
  that
• 10:45
  either.
• 10:45
  Does
• 10:45
  that
• 10:45
  change
• 10:46
  the
• 10:46
  art,
• 10:46
  though?
• 10:47
  Yeah.
• 10:47
  Is
• 10:48
  the
• 10:48
  song
• 10:48
  not
• 10:48
  good
• 10:49
  anymore?
• 10:49
  I
• 10:49
  don't
• 10:50
  know.
• 10:50
  I
• 10:50
  don't
• 10:50
  know.
• 10:50
  That's
• 10:51
  a
• 10:51
  great
• 10:51
  question.
• 10:51
  What
• 10:51
  do
• 10:51
  you
• 10:52
  feel?
• 10:52
  Great.
• 10:52
  R.
• 10:52
  Kelly's
• 10:53
  an
• 10:53
  amazing
• 10:53
  writer,
• 10:54
  you
• 10:54
  know,
• 10:54
  and
• 10:55
  that
• 10:56
  doesn't
• 10:56
  change.
• 10:56
  Can
• 10:57
  we
• 10:57
  separate
• 10:58
  the
• 10:58
  person
• 10:58
  that
• 10:58
  wrote
• 10:59
  the
• 10:59
  song
• 10:59
  from
• 10:59
  the
• 10:59
  actual
• 11:00
  song
• 11:00
  itself?
• 11:02
  I
• 11:02
  feel
• 11:02
  like
• 11:02
  we
• 11:03
  have
• 11:03
  to.
• 11:03
  Because
• 11:03
  my
• 11:04
  thing
• 11:04
  is
• 11:04
  there's
• 11:04
  so
• 11:05
  much
• 11:05
  that
• 11:05
  we
• 11:05
  don't
• 11:05
  know
• 11:05
  about
• 11:06
  people.
• 11:06
  True.
• 11:07
  Like,
• 11:07
  once
• 11:07
  you
• 11:07
  know
• 11:08
  that
• 11:08
  just
• 11:08
  because.
• 11:08
  He
• 11:08
  was
• 11:09
  exposed
• 11:09
  doesn't
• 11:09
  mean
• 11:09
  there's
• 11:10
  other,
• 11:10
  not
• 11:10
  other
• 11:11
  nasty
• 11:11
  people
• 11:11
  in
• 11:12
  the.
• 11:12
  Literally
• 11:12
  exposed.
• 11:14
  I
• 11:14
  will
• 11:14
  say
• 11:15
  this,
• 11:15
  though,
• 11:15
  that
• 11:15
  after
• 11:16
  all
• 11:16
  that
• 11:16
  he
• 11:16
  released
• 11:17
  with
• 11:17
  Lady
• 11:18
  Gaga,
• 11:18
  do
• 11:18
  what
• 11:18
  you
• 11:18
  want
• 11:18
  with
• 11:19
  my
• 11:19
  body,
• 11:19
  and
• 11:19
  I
• 11:19
  was
• 11:19
  like,
• 11:19
  could
• 11:20
  you
• 11:20
  have
• 11:20
  chosen
• 11:20
  something
• 11:21
  else
• 11:21
  for
• 11:21
  your
• 11:22
  return
• 11:22
  song?
• 11:22
  It's
• 11:23
  just
• 11:23
  very
• 11:24
  sensitive.
• 11:24
  He
• 11:24
  crossed
• 11:25
  some
• 11:26
  lines.
• 11:26
  He
• 11:26
  wrote,
• 11:26
  you
• 11:27
  are
• 11:27
  not
• 11:27
  alone.
• 11:29
  Yeah.
• 11:29
  Yeah.
• 11:30
  What
• 11:30
  do
• 11:30
  you
• 11:30
  mean?
• 11:30
  He
• 11:30
  wrote,
• 11:30
  you're
• 11:30
  not
• 11:31
  alone.
• 11:31
  He
• 11:31
  wrote
• 11:31
  that
• 11:31
  song
• 11:32
  for
• 11:32
  Michael
• 11:32
  Jackson.
• 11:32
  Really?
• 11:33
  I'm
• 11:33
  pretty
• 11:33
  sure.
• 11:34
  How
• 11:34
  old
• 11:34
  is
• 11:34
  this
• 11:35
  guy
• 11:35
  R.
• 11:35
  Kelly?
• 11:36
  Probably
• 11:36
  old
• 11:36
  enough
• 11:36
  to
• 11:37
  write
• 11:37
  you
• 11:37
  are
• 11:37
  not
• 11:37
  alone.
• 11:38
  Probably.
• 11:39
  We
• 11:39
  gotta
• 11:39
  fact
• 11:40
  check
• 11:40
  that.
• 11:40
  I'm
• 11:41
  actually.
• 11:42
  You'll
• 11:42
  have
• 11:42
  to.
• 11:42
  Angeline
• 11:43
  Dion.
• 11:44
  He
• 11:44
  wrote
• 11:44
  that.
• 11:44
  True.
• 11:46
  I
• 11:46
  still
• 11:46
  like
• 11:46
  Pee
• 11:47
  Wee
• 11:47
  Herman.
• 11:48
  Is
• 11:48
  that
• 11:48
  one
• 11:48
  of
• 11:48
  those
• 11:48
  things,
• 11:49
  too?
• 11:49
  Yeah,
• 11:49
  he's
• 11:50
  on
• 11:50
  the
• 11:50
  same
• 11:50
  for
• 11:51
  me.
• 11:52
  But
• 11:52
  he
• 11:52
  just
• 11:52
  exposed
• 11:52
  himself.
• 11:53
  He
• 11:53
  didn't
• 11:53
  do
• 11:53
  it
• 11:53
  R.
• 11:54
  Kelly,
• 11:54
  but.
• 11:54
  He
• 11:54
  did
• 11:55
  it
• 11:55
  in
• 11:55
  a
• 11:55
  theater
• 11:55
  made
• 11:56
  for
• 11:56
  that.
• 11:56
  Yeah.
• 11:57
  Like,
• 11:57
  it's
• 11:57
  a
• 11:57
  different.
• 11:58
  To
• 11:58
  me,
• 11:58
  it's
• 11:58
  different.
• 11:59
  He's
• 11:59
  on
• 11:59
  like
• 11:59
  the
• 11:59
  Louis
• 12:00
  CK
• 12:00
  Level.
• 12:01
  Okay,
• 12:02
  Weird,
• 12:02
  nasty,
• 12:03
  but
• 12:04
  whatever.
• 12:05
  But
• 12:05
  R.
• 12:06
  Kelly
• 12:06
  is,
• 12:06
  like,
• 12:06
  unforgivably
• 12:07
  nasty.
• 12:08
  Unforgivable.
• 12:09
  Unforgivable.
• 12:12
  Yeah,
• 12:12
  let's
• 12:12
  leave
• 12:13
  it
• 12:13
  at
• 12:13
  that.
• 12:15
  We're
• 12:16
  gonna
• 12:16
  cut
• 12:16
  all
• 12:16
  of
• 12:16
  that.
• 12:16
  If
• 12:17
  you
• 12:17
  heard
• 12:17
  this,
• 12:17
  I
• 12:17
  apologize.
• 12:20
  So,
• 12:20
  Melanie,
• 12:20
  are
• 12:20
  you
• 12:20
  apologizing
• 12:21
  to
• 12:21
  R.
• 12:21
  Kelly
• 12:21
  or
• 12:21
  to
• 12:21
  R.
• 12:21
  Kelly?
• 12:22
  I'm
• 12:22
  apologizing
• 12:22
  to
• 12:22
  everybody
• 12:24
  except
• 12:24
  for
• 12:24
  R.
• 12:25
  Kelly.
• 12:27
  You
• 12:27
  done
• 12:28
  with
• 12:28
  R.
• 12:28
  Kelly,
• 12:28
  Matt?
• 12:28
  Can
• 12:29
  we
• 12:29
  move
• 12:29
  on
• 12:29
  now?
• 12:29
  Yeah.
• 12:29
  I
• 12:29
  will
• 12:30
  never
• 12:30
  be
• 12:30
  done
• 12:30
  with
• 12:30
  R.
• 12:30
  Kelly.
• 12:32
  Let's
• 12:32
  talk
• 12:32
  about
• 12:33
  some
• 12:33
  real
• 12:33
  good
• 12:33
  music
• 12:34
  that's
• 12:34
  coming
• 12:34
  out
• 12:34
  right
• 12:35
  now,
• 12:35
  because
• 12:35
  I
• 12:35
  know
• 12:35
  that
• 12:35
  you've
• 12:36
  been
• 12:36
  working
• 12:36
  on
• 12:36
  something
• 12:37
  and
• 12:37
  you
• 12:37
  have
• 12:37
  some
• 12:37
  new
• 12:37
  music
• 12:38
  and
• 12:38
  new
• 12:38
  releases.
• 12:39
  Yes.
• 12:40
  My
• 12:40
  brand
• 12:40
  new
• 12:41
  single
• 12:41
  is
• 12:41
  called
• 12:42
  Listen,
• 12:43
  and
• 12:45
  what
• 12:45
  did
• 12:45
  I
• 12:45
  release
• 12:46
  it
• 12:46
  two
• 12:46
  weeks
• 12:46
  ago,
• 12:46
  I
• 12:47
  think.
• 12:47
  Brand
• 12:47
  new.
• 12:47
  It's
• 12:48
  off
• 12:48
  my
• 12:48
  new
• 12:48
  album.
• 12:49
  It's
• 12:49
  called
• 12:49
  Where
• 12:49
  I'm
• 12:49
  At.
• 12:50
  It's
• 12:51
  my
• 12:51
  third
• 12:51
  album
• 12:52
  now.
• 12:53
  First
• 12:54
  being
• 12:54
  Where
• 12:54
  I'm
• 12:54
  Going,
• 12:55
  and
• 12:56
  then
• 12:56
  there
• 12:56
  was
• 12:56
  anticipation,
• 12:57
  and
• 12:57
  now
• 12:57
  there's
• 12:58
  Where
• 12:58
  I'm
• 12:58
  At.
• 12:59
  That
• 12:59
  sounded.
• 13:00
  That
• 13:00
  was
• 13:00
  my
• 13:00
  radio
• 13:00
  voice
• 13:01
  now.
• 13:01
  Now
• 13:01
  Where
• 13:02
  I'm
• 13:02
  At.
• 13:08
  But,
• 13:09
  yeah,
• 13:09
  I
• 13:09
  really
• 13:10
  enjoyed
• 13:11
  the
• 13:11
  whole
• 13:11
  process
• 13:12
  of
• 13:12
  making
• 13:12
  it.