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Bronze Avery: Barking at Boys, Bending Over Backwards, and Being an Independent Artist · Culture Shock

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[SPEAKER_00]: On this episode of Culture Shop, please welcome Braun's Avery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A conversation?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody asked for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You were upset when I said you look skinny today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just feel like they're like skinny as like... You're getting ripped.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You ripped.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I skinny to mean means like, rail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Please, enjoy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You stated on your Wikipedia page that shot of love with Teo Tequila made you feel more comfortable at school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you elaborate?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I never really came out to anybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's kind of hard to donate a jox strap And you didn't really say remember them
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you did it at your birthday?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your new album cover has the girls seeing you bend over backwards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What message do you have for gay people who need to be flexible like yourself?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We shouldn't have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We shouldn't be barking at Republicans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We should cry for the girls who set up a braiding appointment and then the girls bit canceled on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to CultureShark, the non-sensical podcast because you need a podcast with an Indian guy with big glasses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't ask me, ask a general public.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Today I have a very important guest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is an established musician, someone who has designed taste and I enjoy his company very much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please welcome Franz Avery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was such a great intro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you like my intro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really loved it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I honestly loved your delivery of it, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I never knew you were going to say nox.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This exciting facts are facts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know like you know me and just a local girl in the streets trying to make this It happened a local girl in the street.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know it like I envisioned you like in your city like totally different outfit like big Puppy jacket in this in this heat wave.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah This is any free promo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah free promo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well every summer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know before we start any podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I always say we need to start things right Can you please leave me in a podcast prayer?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'm so excited are we holding hands like my putting on the hard hold hands.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that just makes sense Do we close eyes?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We have to you have to close your eyes cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This can count because eyes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay Who should I make it out to whoever you want to make make make it out to?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah Dear Lord Thank you so much for providing a beautiful space Beautiful company beautiful boys holding hands talking to each other
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[SPEAKER_02]: Making the most of a beautiful day, we're gonna have a beautiful conversation and laugh beautifully.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we all said, amen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Amen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your hands are very moisturized.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a little sweaty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get a twist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get a twist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Outing myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it made me nervous for the prayer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oh, this entire time I forgot there's another girl here with us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You said boys Girls girl and yeah, well today special guest for I is someone who has been in my dear heart for quite some time You've seen him online for many of things many of podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please welcome for I bet it's
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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm fat, being great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You were upset when I said you look skinny today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just feel like skinny is like, you're getting ripped.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It ripped.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a skinny to mean means like rail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm not rail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I've got like meat on my bones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's that like, what's that piece when you're like at Buffalo Wild Wings?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the thicker piece that's boneless.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A combo?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm one of the combos.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is your piece that's boneless like the thigh?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm like a thigh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think I'm the thigh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're the thigh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that was fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're chicken.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The rules of this podcast are very simple.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you and I get to Gabon for as long as we want.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If there's ever a time for why I would like to chime in on the conversation, Fry has to hit his buzzer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fry, could you hit your buzzer, please?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't it obnoxious?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's actually kind of stunning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a sleigh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like what never does that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just testing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't want to have for I in the conversation, or if I even give you a question that you don't want answer, you can hit our buzzer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you please hit this buzzer?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The powerful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I met.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you broke my buzzer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to Hollywood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The cold shersingers here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me a kill button.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, did me a better judge than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't be Simon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't be Britney.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't be Demi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't be anyone else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You did start an iconic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Demi was iconic because she's so kind of like you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or like when Britney was like when Fifth Harmony like one, whatever, and Britney was like this is weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She knew something we didn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, we're going to two again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's begin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've gone through your Wikipedia page.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I forget that I have a Wikipedia and I hate the photo on there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have to figure out how to like get in there and hack it and put my own.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hate the photo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: hate to strong word like that is how strongly I feel about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is so ugly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like Zara Larson but with Wikipedia and you're anyway right, she did get her exchange didn't she?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to like hit her up or something in figure out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Zara if you're listening to this I need your help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah so I want to verify you stated on your Wikipedia page that shot of love with Tio Tequila made you feel more comfortable at school.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kate's on there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you elaborate?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay, so I never really came out to anybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I I just was gay and I think because I watched a lot of reality TV like a Maryson's top model and Tilt Kiela shot of love and I knew there was just no chance like I knew I was gay like you know I sometimes like the hardest person to come out to you is like yourself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I always knew I was gay like I liked boys and cos I thought that they were
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[SPEAKER_02]: everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I never wanted to come out because it just like, I thought everybody already knew if that makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I watched people on TV, be gay and I was like, okay, for sure, I am this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not fooling anybody to try to like play straight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I just like was gay and to start talking with who I liked.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that was for the best because I think a coming out moment would have been like dramatic to drink like for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Tila, so she helped.
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[UNKNOWN]: got it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not good anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But at the time, it's actually liberating free empowering her song.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're not familiar with her discography, so good paralyzed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you know, you know, like it's so good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Beat it up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But now it's just, it's not good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: for I do you have any notes?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, well, what is due to Caleb and I'm too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why, why is she bad for the universe now?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You really have to look into it and do your own deep dive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is on the other side of our values.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's not a question values.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's straight now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To be honest, the more I look, the more scared I become.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So she like, Nara Smith Christian or she likes like scarier than that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, thanks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's scary than that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, Johnson and Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I can't believe that's on my Wikipedia, but we want to change a couple of things on there now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like I mean, it's the truth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So another thing I found in your Wikipedia, I saw online that you had a mistake shared on a family computer that caused your outing, as you said, your, your guys, that correct?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What, what safety do you think should be in place for
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[SPEAKER_02]: Funny that you say that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just recently found out that it was actually my sister who revealed it to my mom and that's like how my mom like found out what did she find it was on my space bulletin of this girl that She thought I was talking about her because her name was fedora
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was talking, like I'm making a joke on my space.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like literally 14 about Dorothy Explorer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She thought I was talking about her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She makes her Italian, my space bullets and about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like saying, like, I was gay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like, she saw me holding hands with this boy in school.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which was true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Got it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And who's that guy?
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[SPEAKER_02]: His name, he's so sweet, his name is Drew.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He ended up being a drag queen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, cute.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love how she didn't hit her buzzer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, I am here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fags to riches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was like e-mo-tastic at the time like how like a long-scoot thing like I'm not even getting It was so crazy, but it's like when you're gay like you're just a franny person So you just found out you're sistered at this or like I just found out I always thought my mom stumbled across it on her own And then my mom slipped the other day and she was like, oh, yeah, like when Tiffany showed me a bowl and I was like But it's all good, honestly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have you confronted her about this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember if I didn't, but if I, it wouldn't matter now, they're honestly allies of the year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're incredible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Child, whatever that is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Child.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, your real name is Gabriel Brown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, did I say that correctly?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but that is something I never talk about, which is my legal name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you said you changed it because you don't want to be confused with other people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you name other Gabriel's in your life?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or as many as you can?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, oh my god, good question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot think of another Gabriel at the top of my head.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like a dead name to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Name a Gabriel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, Gabriel, Eglace is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I literally just made that out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I put it on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's a real person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stand up comedian.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Gabriel Eglace is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What did he last stand up and commit about?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The fluffy special of the stand up he did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who the Netflix to me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am not the encyclopedia for your life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, Gabriel Glaci, I'm so glad you exist now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's so funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I never talk about my name being Gabriel, like, anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a private, like thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like public information, but like anyone calls me Gabriel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, would be actually really angry enough to set a lot of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what made you want to change it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just became my name naturally because when people saw like my artist project name They just thought my name was bronze and I just didn't want to go through the like means of correcting them So that is my name and I get actually really upset when people call me anything other than bronze.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, you mad at me now I'm not mad at you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could never be mad at you
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I would be really mad at other people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you see this don't ever ever say that to me or Avery, I hate it when people call me Avery or my god like my name is bronze it is like is your name You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just don't go to the passport office.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They'll really throw a fit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know more a lot of my credit cards like say like bronze Avery.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like
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[SPEAKER_02]: How did you get away with that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, is that allowed?
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's just really comfortable here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you can have like two names on their crew card and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there are some names.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are some cards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a credit card company and like pedal or something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can put like your own name.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because queer people, we commonly have sometimes dead names.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like how gay reals a dead name to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I never talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, I hate singin' places.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In my private life, like when I'm
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[SPEAKER_02]: but whatever it's fine, but nobody knows me by that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't know as Mariah Carey says.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Literally don't know her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody said that I would be like mad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be like York and the airport.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Example's help to understand your true emotions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I've ever seen that video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's a really good one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I watched it kind of often.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When any inspiration for how to like fight for something you believe in, if you're in give that video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You think of airports or bureaucracists?
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[SPEAKER_02]: York.
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[SPEAKER_02]: York.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You moved around a lot growing up, as you said, you are a Navy brat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is something that people don't get about gay kids who grew up with parents who are serving, not serving in the gay kind, but serving in the USA kind?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, honestly, I think the serving was kind of a slay, because there was my dad specifically, he had to travel a lot, so he was like gone a lot of the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's not this, um, not that he would have, who's to say, but I never had to worry about this overarching, very, over mock show, masculine, like, mold to fit into.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I essentially grew up, because my parents got to
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, there's something like when you're not a group in a single mom household, it just like is a different experience that's so rewarding and beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think I was able to grow up and be exactly what I needed to be without feeling I needed to be like my dad or like a masculine figure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, I can't say that that would have happened because it just, who's to say?
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[SPEAKER_02]: How was it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I was in Pennsylvania, so like, the streets were rough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had one traffic light, traffic light broke, so we had no traffic light.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just in the streets and everyone was like, he must be black.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, that is so wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's so interesting, actually.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, who's that black kid sitting on like, first of all?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Second of all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Second of all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew every minority on the census, and they were all 14 of us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you grew up in a really, really small town.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When did you leave?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when it, as soon as I could.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like 18, I was like 12.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 12.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're walking, like the stick and the sack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this tree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You think I had resources?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just needed to hear your voice down here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that's crazy like I called you like black.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, that's great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm like, whoa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would've been like, I'm mixed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, my mom's the right head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really what not Jenny weasley not me gagging you both twice around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm just the widest woman I know wow Yeah Did you get any gender qualities at all she comes through in the facial hair and everyone's in a blue mood But it doesn't I'm not seeing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like don't drag me to get me like I mean No, look your it looks great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just I'm not seeing the gender It's yeah, not a lot of Indians have jawline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So mom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm interested to see you do like a ginger costume or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that like reverse racism?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you were like right here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like back to the thing.
15:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
15:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Jolly, I'm back on the jawlands.
15:38
[SPEAKER_00]: No Indians have good jawline.
15:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that's not true.
15:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't say no, and it's a good jawline.
15:42
[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of them just don't.
15:43
[SPEAKER_01]: We just don't.
15:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Azizansari, have we done a jawline check?
15:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Have we what's that girl's name?
15:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I never have ever.
15:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to prism is pronounced her name Love it my tray.
15:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I You got it wrong.
15:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to think of more Who have it all lanes?
16:02
[SPEAKER_00]: They're all white pre-onka.
16:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't know she's an amazing jawline.
16:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure anyways, all right next card honey next card
16:10
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you started listening music nearly a decade ago, mm-hmm.
16:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Sip that water.
16:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, that was a long time.
16:17
[SPEAKER_01]: What's it like to look back on your decade of discovery?
16:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I honestly just can't believe that I've been doing it for that long.
16:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot of artists, especially nowadays, they really want to pop out and be like, I just got here, I'm fresh, I'm brand new.
16:33
[SPEAKER_02]: There's something about it, but also I think it's kind of beautiful that I've been doing it for so long.
16:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've had a great time the whole time.
16:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot of people can start off hot and then they have a bad time immediately, but I feel like because I've really grown.
16:49
[SPEAKER_02]: With my project, I have more of an appreciation for it and yeah, it's been a long time.
16:55
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of time writing sexy music.
16:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you write like not text music all the time all the time?
17:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a whole side project like called hidden people And it's like all bulky hyper-poppy sad emotional No, kind but different.
17:12
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like no, it's more I'm like no This kind of funny that you say that.
17:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know it's hard to express it's like it's own Sounds like a fairy in like the middle of the forest, but she's like electronic digital and she's like
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[SPEAKER_02]: comforting you and telling you about her emotions so like horse girl meets Lana don't ray yeah yeah I like that for you thank you so I it's not always sexy but you know for now it is and you can be like so sad and so sexy Gracie Abrams see thank you I was thinking Licky Lee but great Abrams too yeah
17:53
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's so sexy.
17:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's so sad and so sad?
17:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever had, what was your last so sad?
17:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So sexy moment.
17:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going there, not today.
18:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Not today.
18:02
[SPEAKER_02]: You never just listen to a song and felt so sad and so sexy.
18:05
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you're in a mute.
18:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, stalk him out night by iconopop.
18:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes.
18:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Makes you feel like you want to laugh and cry at the same time as they would say.
18:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Richie will say that too.
18:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that it's like so sad, so it's like she's like interesting.
18:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Dancing on my own, it's so sad to sexy.
18:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it feels so sexy when I hear that song, but it's so sad.
18:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Sex you could buy by Chloe Kisha also.
18:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that one.
18:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Facts.
18:33
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get you on it.
18:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
18:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So, one of your earlier tracks is titled, Messy, and it wrapped up quite a few million plays on Spotify.
18:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But, Lola Young's track comes up on top on Spotify.
18:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Great search, Messy.
18:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy for her.
18:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
18:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
18:53
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Messy's actually like one of my least favorite songs.
18:56
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a shirt or you by me.
18:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Got it.
18:59
[SPEAKER_02]: So, it's kind of a joke within my fandom.
19:01
[SPEAKER_02]: They know I don't love.
19:03
[SPEAKER_01]: that song and so you like it's buried down in the Spotify search.
19:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope so many more songs called my seed come out on top.
19:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Like once it left my top 10 on Spotify, I was like, I was so happy.
19:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I like love that what's so funny is I bought for that song too.
19:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so hard for her.
19:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Bye for her now.
19:22
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
19:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
19:23
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
19:24
[SPEAKER_00]: She's, um, wait, but what if that like becomes your espresso?
19:30
[SPEAKER_02]: then I would like remix.
19:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I like did it on I had to do it.
19:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I was opening on a tour with my friend Julia and she like I had to do it.
19:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like it was too early to like let go of it, you know what I mean?
19:41
[SPEAKER_02]: So I like did a remix and I loved it.
19:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was like way more fun.
19:45
[SPEAKER_02]: But then once I once it fell out of the top 10 I was like I'm taking this out.
19:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Miley Cyrus doesn't love party in the USA, so you might just have to swallow it.
19:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, if it's going to be that much money, like I could learn to love it.
19:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
19:55
[SPEAKER_02]: It's heavy on it.
19:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I could learn to love.
19:57
[SPEAKER_02]: For sure.
19:58
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my sexy happy song now.
20:00
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
20:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Notice how he said swallow though.
20:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
20:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty good at that.
20:06
[SPEAKER_01]: next car, honey, next car, okay.
20:08
[SPEAKER_01]: In 2019, you had a conversation with Bill Board and you said you don't want to be, quote, labeled as an R&B artist.
20:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you explain to the public why the people who don't get it?
20:21
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean by that?
20:22
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so exactly as it says, because I just don't make R&B music.
20:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think now people get that.
20:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I think like it's been a good four or five year, like since 2019, I think honestly since I said it, I think people stop saying it.
20:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Because it would be like, oh, it's like pop R&B, I was like, where is the R&B?
20:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Where's it fit?
20:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and I also think it's like,
20:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I like love R&B and I think it's just respectful sometimes to the genre to like misclassify the cuts by the color of skin by a just kind of like just because I'm black obviously doesn't mean I make R&B but I think people get that now now that is like not as much of a thing anymore you really late the groundwork I did you come through the first stone and there's look there's documentation to prove it
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[SPEAKER_02]: on those cards.
21:12
[SPEAKER_02]: They're pretty cards.
21:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I got that milk money.
21:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I just saw that recently.
21:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you see that?
21:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw that on Twitter again.
21:19
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, can you believe this even happened?
21:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I like it.
21:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Bold.
21:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I like it.
21:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I like it too.
21:27
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of fun.
21:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Like she really, and I was like her last, or I think the National Anthem happened after that, right?
21:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
21:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Also iconic though.
21:34
[SPEAKER_02]: She doesn't know how to not be iconic.
21:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know how to do like a cart reel?
21:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Like she does?
21:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I can do a cartwheel.
21:40
[SPEAKER_02]: And I could probably do that, but not the one hand.
21:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I taught myself how to do one hand.
21:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, you seem like you would be like a... Oh, I did gymnasics for like a fight.
21:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I like it.
21:51
[SPEAKER_02]: A flipper.
21:51
[SPEAKER_02]: A flipper.
21:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that what they call people who are flexible and skinny?
21:54
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what flexible and ripped.
21:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Ripped.
21:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Not to confuse with the grip, like a tank.
22:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
22:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Rib, rib, I like both.
22:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
22:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it here.
22:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So you started a clothing company called Ruckswood.
22:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It has a diverse lineup of models wearing briefs and so much more.
22:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you could fuck, marry and kill a jockstrap, a brief and boxer briefs, what would be what you're choosing?
22:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Definitely killing boxer briefs for sure.
22:32
[SPEAKER_02]: What did you do to the straight man you scalp them?
22:35
[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing wrong with them, but like they're just the most like I would just I was wearing them you'd be No, well, it's it's me killing them.
22:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but they're dead for sure Gonna fuck the jock shop, of course.
22:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's what it's like not for but that's what it's for Got it and ready the brief Because
22:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, it's just so versatile, so sexy, so classic.
23:00
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like what we started with.
23:02
[SPEAKER_02]: The boxer brief is kind of new, you know what I mean?
23:04
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like not classic, even the jock shop is more classic.
23:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Hard, disagree.
23:11
[SPEAKER_00]: The boxer brief is very honest.
23:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you wearing them right now for, right?
23:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course I am, they're perfect.
23:16
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, type and not too tight and they're like breathable.
23:21
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like easy, makes you feel like you're in your outfit.
23:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, just not for me.
23:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So you love showing a little leg?
23:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and a little cheek, I think that's really important.
23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: cheeky of you.
23:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it's hot like if you're hot like when whatever you're gonna wear is gonna be hot, you know.
23:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I saw a video once that said if you have six packs, you kind of do anything.
23:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like, well, not just a six pack, you know, you can be hot and have I know, I just like, I don't agree with that, but also like the right underwear makes me feel like I can do anything.
23:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that honestly, and that's why we made Ruxwood.
23:57
[SPEAKER_02]: It's because we wanted everyone to feel sexy.
24:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And boxer briefs don't always make me feel sexy.
24:04
[SPEAKER_01]: What is your non-negotiable when it comes to undergarments?
24:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, no logos.
24:10
[SPEAKER_02]: That is a non-aggressable way because I'm not like a walking advertisement especially when I'm like being naked or new or in that sensual moment.
24:20
[SPEAKER_02]: There's I just think logos on the front is just like a it's truly a non-aggressable.
24:24
[SPEAKER_02]: That was like the first thing we said when we made our excited.
24:26
[SPEAKER_02]: We were like we are not putting a logo.
24:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean it makes sense.
24:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Like look at us.
24:29
[SPEAKER_01]: No logos on this.
24:32
[SPEAKER_02]: All sleek and black.
24:34
[SPEAKER_00]: We're matching black.
24:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
24:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck.
24:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So no skims?
24:38
[SPEAKER_00]: No cavencline.
24:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Um... No, I mean I own both.
24:43
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I thought.
24:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Tommy Hill figures that we draw the line.
24:52
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, like whatever, I...
24:54
[SPEAKER_02]: If I had to choose an eliminate.
24:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm fucking very in killing.
25:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's that's your journey and that's what's right with you.
25:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sometimes we own things aren't right for us And sometimes we have a 90-day return policy, but sometimes that's not you enough for undies Not for undies 90 days you can give 90 days anymore.
25:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, there's nobody As I say with boys you have a 90-day return policy or a six-month return policy boys it does feel like 90 days I feel like a 19-day return policy
25:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
25:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, why did you make your own clothing line?
25:32
[SPEAKER_02]: It was me and my creator partner, Jesse.
25:35
[SPEAKER_02]: We started it back in Florida, actually.
25:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And when we moved to LA, it's when it actually became originated.
25:42
[SPEAKER_02]: The reason we started it was because it was very difficult just for Jesse to find a jock strap that did not
25:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Have like a logo on it or wasn't like neon green or like tacky or thin speak on it So he was like I want to try making one so he designed it and made it and was like just gonna make it for him and I was like no Like we should make one.
26:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I was like we should make it up a brand because I was like There's no point to go through all of this to make it and that you know give it to the people So we were like if we're gonna start cuz we both have like a background and like advertising
26:16
[SPEAKER_02]: So we were like, if we, and I had like design skills, web skills, he's a photographer, I'm a photographer, I should say, I have no talent.
26:24
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you, you, you have so many talents.
26:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Continue, it's not, it's not about me.
26:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and we just put it together, our heads together.
26:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And,
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[SPEAKER_02]: started it.
26:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're like, we're going to start it.
26:34
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to start it right.
26:35
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to start a diverse.
26:36
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to make sure that our values are first and foremost.
26:40
[SPEAKER_02]: And we launched with the job shop, but we also launched with like a journaling app so you can keep track of like your romantic and central experiences.
26:47
[SPEAKER_02]: We like had a editorial that we launched with it.
26:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we wanted to make sure everybody felt included because we didn't yet have like the UNICEF products.
26:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And then our next product like product was like a UNICEF swim brief.
26:58
[SPEAKER_02]: then we had like a cute tank, then we made this like super large like beach towel that's actually like we actually created it for the moment someone's like are you going to put a towel down so it's like the exact size of a queen size mattress.
27:10
[SPEAKER_02]: So we really started building out what it means to have like a sensual lifestyle and I'm so proud of it like I think it's like the coolest shit ever.
27:19
[SPEAKER_01]: So was there a point you had a bunch of jock straps just like in a pile of like
27:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, oh my god, there's actually like four bags worth of just I we still don't know what to do with them.
27:31
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like damaged, but like it's kind of hard to donate a job strap.
27:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Fab idea like but when you see a little full and rib like you wouldn't even know like it would be so great cuz it'd be like a little patch I think I can just see the description now made with recycled juxtraps Wait, maybe you're onto something this could be like a Facebook marketplace cell like I could make a Market place well, I can only make one quilt You know, I mean, I just make a huge I can installation for somewhere or then it can like donate it so like a place hold on hanging it up if I frame it really nice
28:19
[SPEAKER_02]: It would be like the black Tom Daley of jockstraps, just like at- We have a dream of getting Tom Daley and something with Rockford.
28:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Would you like to speak to camera to Tom Daley?
28:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Tom Daley, there is a brief for you, called the Lito Brief.
28:31
[SPEAKER_02]: It is made for swimmers.
28:33
[SPEAKER_02]: It is perfect for in the pool that out to get a bite to eat on the sand.
28:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
28:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like perfect, like swim today, kind of, I wanted to say date tonight, but it's like swim to dry.
28:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, I love that.
28:49
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very sexy.
28:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Tom, you're gonna look so great, and it just hit us up, you know?
28:54
[SPEAKER_01]: You did so good on LVPitch.
28:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
28:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I had one shot, and I just had to take it.
28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for talking to me on Shark Tank.
29:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, I've always thought about going on Shark Tank, but I would be too nervous, I think.
29:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't know who to choose, even if I would get that far, like just too much.
29:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have a favorite on Shark Tank?
29:12
[SPEAKER_02]: No, actually, Barbara.
29:14
[SPEAKER_02]: He do like Barbara, but like I don't know her that well, but like on the show like she seems like I would probably go for her I feel like she'd believe in me Got it.
29:23
[SPEAKER_02]: There's someone else where I feel like would believe in me There's like a black woman on there and I don't know who she is, but I think she'd believe in me If you said Mark Cuban, I was like girl.
29:30
[SPEAKER_01]: No, is it because they're women though?
29:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yeah Anyways
29:38
[SPEAKER_01]: What is one thing that gay men don't get when it comes to fashion?
29:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, I thought skinny jeans were over, but sometimes when I travel, I still see them.
29:48
[SPEAKER_02]: But, oh, I have some hot tastes on this for gay fashion for sure.
29:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me really reel it in though, because I don't want to say anything too crazy.
30:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Because, like, at the end of the day style, you know what it is, something that gaze don't get about fashion.
30:05
[SPEAKER_02]: At the end of the day, style is supposed to be representative of you and your personality and your vibe.
30:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And I do think chasing trendy clothes, straight or gay or whatever, is like not the vibe.
30:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, you should have your look and your uniform and stick to it and venture out slowly, but there is like, a reason my people have identifiable looks
30:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, style and taste are different, honey.
30:32
[SPEAKER_02]: It's true, it really is true.
30:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, maybe my hot take is we need to go of like, everything being so designer only.
30:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's so cute to have like, it's so chic to have like one designer piece and then everything else is like, you know, you know, close or something.
30:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think that's very chic.
30:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think as some of the guys go too crazy, do you just go through my shirt and my car goes?
30:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you wearing uniclo and for both?
30:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Top and bottom, baby.
30:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Top and.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or made well, J.Crew, however, I'm gonna be in.
31:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I've ever come to J.Crew.
31:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you just make your outfit?
31:08
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
31:29
[SPEAKER_02]: JW Anderson or the the gays that go to the chillies and they're like chillies order love to coat What am I dreams is to like smoke a joint right before and then go into a chillies and they're just there and they're and then they invite me and They're like oh my god, you're so cool like would you like to come join us for these like chicken dipers and I would say Oh my god, I would want nothing more and then they will say oh here's a diet coke and then I would say thank you so much and I would sit down
31:58
[SPEAKER_02]: and then they would pop up the phone.
32:00
[SPEAKER_02]: There would not be a ring light because they're just wouldn't be, and they would say, Chili's orders, and then I would get to be a part of the video.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't even know what I would order.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is the thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's like, that's where the dream ends.
32:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it gets to me, and then I don't know what it is, and it's a nightmare.
32:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So you said stop the music, stop everything else in my life.
32:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to be at Chili's with these girls.
32:23
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: that would be a great alternative if, you know.
32:29
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think this is one of my many dreams.
32:30
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the side quests that make you great.
32:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm a side quest, I'm a side quest to main quests, kind of gal.
32:36
[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like that could be a, that just needs to be a side quest only one time.
32:43
[SPEAKER_01]: What it comes to your music, we're back to the music.
32:46
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that chillies anymore.
32:48
[SPEAKER_01]: What is the one of the most difficult things when it comes to being an independent artist?
32:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Day old question.
32:54
[SPEAKER_02]: money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It really is always money, but also I think it's access.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's the thing that I think when a lot of people think of like getting record deals, they think of like the money, but what like labels really do for you is they have like access to things and people and
33:14
[SPEAKER_02]: events and things that can really help build you in your confidence and as an artist.
33:20
[SPEAKER_02]: So as an independent artist, it can sometimes be very difficult to have that same type of confidence when maybe you don't have the access or a manager, like I don't have a manager right now.
33:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So sometimes it's hard to be like confident in myself and be like, okay, but then you look to your fans and then they're like rooting for you and then it's like, oh my god, I can't let them down and then like it inspires me to like not let myself down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: by literary listening to my fans and just like listening to their messages and reading their comments and but also knowing that we don't have like a crazy like parasocial relationship like they really respect what I do and they know what I do and they don't ask for anything crazy and they just are there and appreciate it and I really love them for that.
34:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And how do we keep the lights on as an independent artist?
34:11
[SPEAKER_02]: you own two other businesses and to be honest.
34:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I have actually a good answer to this.
34:19
[SPEAKER_02]: You keep the lights on by for me personally.
34:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I've always had like
34:26
[SPEAKER_02]: like an agency I've always done design work and like creative work I've always done that and I've oh and I just started Rockswood and those are things that I also love like I don't feel like I believe on people like you have to give up everything to be in music or you're not going to make it I think that's like toxic thinking and just honestly not true we're in a whole new era anything is possible there is no reason to not do it all
34:49
[SPEAKER_02]: But I will say if I did not have any of these other skills and it was just about the music and it was like what did I do to keep the lights on you have to produce I can will preach this like day and night my artist project my life changed once I like it came a confident producer and not just like a producer but also like producer engineer like I'm also engineering and like
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[SPEAKER_02]: being able to go from beginning to end alone, that will save you so much money, so many headaches, and you develop your sound in your artistry because you are the core of every single decision.
35:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like life-changing to like, if you are an indie artist, you have to produce, you literally have to.
35:29
[SPEAKER_02]: She said, right to camera, like you have to, or you're like, not going to make it in five years.
35:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, to be honest.
35:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone who's like cool and successful and like young as like a producer and an engineer like making the music Like you have to make things out you said young and cool has to be a producer Like they think about pink pants for us.
35:48
[SPEAKER_00]: What about me?
35:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not Will you also are a producer?
35:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at that.
35:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha.
35:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Onto your new album?
36:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
36:04
[SPEAKER_01]: What was the inspiration to make this new album?
36:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all fun games.
36:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Dating.
36:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Ooh.
36:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha.
36:13
[SPEAKER_02]: But also seeing myself as a victim and a villain.
36:18
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just really wanted to play around with that type of character and write kind of almost like a story in a way
36:30
[SPEAKER_02]: What it's like to go through dating because we all I don't know my friend Tim one said like we're all Disdogs in the dark park playing around and I totally believe that with the gaze sometimes It's just kind of like the wild west, but it's like we all can participate it We all participate in it in our own way, whether it's like
36:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Accidentally blowing somebody off that maybe you weren't that interested in and then someone does that to you and it's kind of like Understanding that it's not that serious, but it is kind of that serious So the album explores kind of that like push-and-pull of what is serious and what is not it's all fun and games So it's not that deep, but it's deep exactly by not Demi Lovato Yes It's kind of meta.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like it's all fun and games
37:19
[SPEAKER_02]: And I purposely left out the lot or part of the phrase for positivity and irony.
37:30
[SPEAKER_01]: If it's, thank you.
37:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Very welcome.
37:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Fry.
37:35
[SPEAKER_00]: That was very inspiring.
37:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
37:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, great.
37:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to listen.
37:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me go pre-save.
37:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna love it.
37:41
[SPEAKER_02]: If you love sexy dance music, it's like...
37:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I do love sexy dance music and I think we need more of it.
37:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm tired of this like house music nonsense at the clubs or like the sad girl pop star era we're in right now for some of the girls.
37:53
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm like, I need something that will make me get up and feel alive.
37:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Like nothing's
37:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the rock pearls always make me feel alive.
38:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And a Della.
38:03
[SPEAKER_02]: A Della is amazing.
38:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
38:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I've talked about it all the time.
38:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's so cool.
38:07
[SPEAKER_02]: She's fat.
38:09
[SPEAKER_02]: That first EP, Provocator, what a groundbreaking intro to an artist.
38:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Slater, Slater also makes me feel alive.
38:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Love her.
38:17
[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't rain makes me feel so alive.
38:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Love.
38:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know Addison personally.
38:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
38:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Love her.
38:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Slater, and I love all of them.
38:26
[SPEAKER_02]: They're all incredible girls.
38:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I just smite.
38:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
38:29
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, I just, you really set the tone.
38:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I went.
38:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes.
38:34
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
38:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I was getting prepared.
38:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
38:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Before I, what's your dating life like?
38:39
[SPEAKER_00]: It's thriving.
38:40
[SPEAKER_00]: We are restructuring our bracket.
38:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't wanna say bracket, I don't wanna say roster, but we are restructuring our system.
38:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's going really well.
38:52
[SPEAKER_00]: We have upgraded, we are Mac.
38:54
[SPEAKER_00]: 0.68 OX.
38:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh wow, that's great.
38:57
[SPEAKER_00]: With that download take a while.
38:59
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?
39:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a faster download than I thought when I put my mind to it.
39:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And how much?
39:06
[SPEAKER_01]: RAM power, are we getting on this new upgrade?
39:10
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the highest power it can be?
39:12
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the thickest, juiciest technology you can find?
39:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Riot!
39:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Riot!
39:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Goose, goose, Riot!
39:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I refuse to be on more than one dating app, so Riot is just for, like, to be there, and then I'm, like, a goose girl right now.
39:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you liking it?
39:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we should be off the record.
39:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not gonna book.
39:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the idea of goose.
39:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It's sniffies without the mass Interesting.
39:50
[SPEAKER_00]: No anything about goose those that you can not say please catching a stray.
39:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know.
39:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry I just love living through you as I hit my my single girls and you just living life from like what's it like oh I know the foldable iPhone, you know people are like making fun of like you could see sniffies on a full screen If you get the foldable iPhone
40:05
[SPEAKER_00]: That's probably a spark, actually.
40:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't use stifies like that.
40:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I found out about it through one of my old co-workers and he was visiting from New York and we were here in LA and he's like, I've just been on sniffies all day and I was like, the fuck has sniffies?
40:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you allowed to curse on here?
40:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
40:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what the fuck has sniffies?
40:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I never fucking been on stiffies.
40:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm never been and he showed me and then like it's so funny because I've showed other people like what it is and they're like, are you on it?
40:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, no, but I just have to show you that's too much, that's sniffies is too much.
40:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to sniff anything on sniffies.
40:33
[SPEAKER_01]: It's sucking dick and cock and you didn't really tell me about my birthday.
40:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you did it at your birthday?
40:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, they're still sweaty.
40:40
[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't get it.
40:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Only we get it.
40:42
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know this one?
40:43
[SPEAKER_00]: No, tell me.
40:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me a story.
40:44
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
40:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look, you know.
40:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And Tati Westbrook retressed.
40:51
[SPEAKER_02]: That was such an egg.
40:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, well, I say it like all that time.
40:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I say it all the time.
40:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And people go, that's Katya and Tricks.
40:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, no, that's Katya and Tricks.
40:57
[SPEAKER_01]: You're quoting Katya Westbrook.
40:59
[SPEAKER_02]: He said, he hurt my bird.
41:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And you did it on my birthday.
41:02
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
41:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And you did it on the fault of what I found.
41:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Before Skand of all that was like our Skandle.
41:08
[SPEAKER_00]: What is the drama get in?
41:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what they call it?
41:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, the timer or the countdown?
41:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
41:14
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like, I caught it to me in a way.
41:16
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
41:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, wow, like we haven't had a moment like that.
41:19
[SPEAKER_00]: What was the last moment we've had like that?
41:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Where's Totty band?
41:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Is she still around?
41:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't, no, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't
41:40
[SPEAKER_02]: What are we stretching?
41:41
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to stretch everything.
41:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Especially after those workouts, I think the equinox spodies.
41:48
[SPEAKER_02]: You get a stretching partner.
41:49
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not stretch.
41:50
[SPEAKER_02]: You duck?
41:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you talking about me?
41:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you an equinox body?
41:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course.
41:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you stretch after your workout?
41:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I stretch after before the lotties grow all day long.
41:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, great.
41:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, then you're doing it.
42:00
[SPEAKER_02]: The lort's work.
42:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, it's already working.
42:02
[SPEAKER_02]: They're probably going to have to have to go in.
42:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And how far back can you bend it like Beckham?
42:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, almost like a full circle.
42:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, I really think I like to feed my back shooting the album cover to be honest.
42:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I, it's fine now, but at the time.
42:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So you grew your own back out.
42:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Loki, uh, I know it's on the street in the gravel.
42:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it was like,
42:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It was, it was rough.
42:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And I wasn't even sure if that was gonna be the album cover.
42:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I was in between three.
42:29
[SPEAKER_02]: And I really, at the last minute, it was like, this one.
42:33
[SPEAKER_01]: You look kind of hot, even though my elbows are scraped.
42:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are all three such different images like complete a friend, but that was the first one.
42:40
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I stuck with.
42:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I was the first one and I was like, I think I can maybe beat this like I love this, but like nobody was giving me a strong reaction.
42:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I do a whole other photo shoot.
42:49
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really cool.
42:49
[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna be probably alternative.
42:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Hold their photoshoot, and everyone was like, oh, that first one is so amazing.
42:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, you weren't saying that at the time.
43:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Playing in the streets gets you what you need.
43:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I have a little cheek out, too.
43:05
[SPEAKER_02]: That was really important to me.
43:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Which cheek, it was the right cheek.
43:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, cheap life.
43:11
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, cheap.
43:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, cheap.
43:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And that shot on a Digi Cam, like, a really...
43:15
[SPEAKER_00]: This was a taste.
43:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
43:18
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll have to show you after.
43:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to see you.
43:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate imagining things.
43:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I just like to see it.
43:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder what it's going to look like now that you've not seen it.
43:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Like when you see it and hearing the description.
43:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to keep it out.
43:28
[SPEAKER_02]: It better be what I think.
43:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
43:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway.
43:29
[SPEAKER_02]: The cheekest subtle.
43:30
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why like a... One of your singles on your album is titled Cry Forever.
43:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
43:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you name three things that people should cry about forever?
43:39
[SPEAKER_02]: who could win in his cry forever with that exclamation point.
43:43
[SPEAKER_02]: So strong, like cry forever.
43:46
[SPEAKER_02]: You should always cry about dolly forever.
43:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, there's one.
43:50
[SPEAKER_02]: We have to cry about her.
43:52
[SPEAKER_02]: We should always cry forever about... Mmm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm.
44:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, I'm really thinking because I want a cry friver and like a good way to, you know, we should cry for I don't know you got it.
44:19
[SPEAKER_02]: What what also what do you think we should cry for ever for?
44:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it something bad?
44:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it something sad?
44:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it something good?
44:25
[SPEAKER_01]: It could be something bad?
44:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I want to cry forever for, oh, we should cry forever for the girls who have hair appointments, and they do bleaching and it goes wrong, or they lose a little hair.
44:38
[SPEAKER_01]: We should cry forever for them.
44:40
[SPEAKER_02]: We should definitely, and you know who else?
44:41
[SPEAKER_02]: We should cry for for the third.
44:43
[SPEAKER_02]: We should cry for the girls who set up a braiding appointment, and then the girls get canceled on, and they had a birthday or something after, we have to cry forever for those girls.
44:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Dolly, and then hair appointments.
44:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Really important things, I think.
45:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Anything else?
45:01
[SPEAKER_02]: No, cool.
45:03
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's time for a segment that I really love.
45:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Transition here.
45:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, sometimes you may look at this podcast and say, Andy, that was a really dumb question.
45:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we have a whole segment of them.
45:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Called really dumb questions.
45:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
45:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Never, never a dumb question.
45:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Never.
45:17
[SPEAKER_01]: One of your songs is titled Dog Say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is something you would say?
45:22
[SPEAKER_01]: The men love to bark at these days.
45:23
[SPEAKER_01]: That shouldn't.
45:25
[SPEAKER_01]: That shouldn't.
45:26
[SPEAKER_01]: They shouldn't.
45:27
[SPEAKER_02]: They shouldn't be barking up.
45:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, we shouldn't be barking at Republicans.
45:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's like, in a good way, you know what I mean?
45:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, maybe we should bark out them in a bad way.
45:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, name, name names.
45:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm, oh, we're not.
45:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I use your imagination.
45:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's good though because there could be a lot of people.
45:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Not really Kirk, she said names.
45:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and we're gonna bark.
45:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Roof.
45:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Just that?
45:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, what was the question?
46:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, other things that gay should not bark at, or boys are men.
46:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Boys to men?
46:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Boys, or men?
46:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And men?
46:10
[SPEAKER_02]: They shouldn't bark at, we shouldn't, hmm, we shouldn't bark at the dolls, but I feel like some of my friends would like it if it was the right dog.
46:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it depends on the dog, it depends on the man.
46:26
[SPEAKER_02]: you know facts are facts it depends because you can get away with barking almost at anything if you bark and maybe the tone of the bark is it like a or is it like like what what octave no like when the dogs are doing it together and they're like oh that's kind of a
46:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that question.
46:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thank you.
46:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, in your lineup of clothing for your company Rockswood, you feature a wide variety of briefs and more as you've discussed on the spotcast.
46:56
[SPEAKER_01]: If you didn't have a jock strap on the lineup, what would it be as your second favorite thing?
47:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my favorite thing is how you've been the jock strap.
47:06
[SPEAKER_02]: what is it?
47:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's the it's a tie.
47:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got to be a tie between brief 01 which is the Unisex whim brief or spread which is like the actual large towel because I use the spread it's my most used
47:22
[SPEAKER_02]: product from Moxwood, like not even kidding.
47:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the perfect spread.
47:26
[SPEAKER_02]: It's perfect to spread out and get spread.
47:30
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like a genius to be honest with you.
47:32
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, when I made it, I was like, wow, like, we really did something here.
47:39
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my favorite.
47:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
47:41
[SPEAKER_01]: You and one of your music videos, we're kissing white boy Zane Philip.
47:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I love him.
47:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think is it Phillips or Philip?
47:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.
47:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I love him.
47:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Love her.
47:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you name other white boys you would put in his place in that music video?
47:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Jack and then in first horror, like, down, love him.
48:05
[SPEAKER_02]: But I would also put, like, I would also replace him with some other people to replace him.
48:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I would replace him with,
48:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Jeremy Pope, not a white boy, but like that was like, when I first envisioned it, I was like, it's Jeremy Pope.
48:22
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like... Do you close your eyes and you're thinking you're making out what Jeremy Pope?
48:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Jeremy Pope, I love, I love Jackin' and so much.
48:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Connor's story, I think we all have Connor's story.
48:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And when Zane sees this, you were going to say to him.
48:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I love you Zane, I love you so much.
48:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually love you the most because I know you and you're the sweetest.
48:42
[SPEAKER_02]: He really is the sweetest.
48:45
[SPEAKER_02]: there's what there's another boy I wanted to put in there.
48:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause it's just an excuse to make out with a boy.
48:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh, we should put Montero in there.
48:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that'd be so cute.
48:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes.
48:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Wouldn't that be so cute?
48:59
[SPEAKER_02]: People've always said that.
49:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, people also used to say that we looked alike.
49:03
[SPEAKER_02]: So then I would have my first gay twin.
49:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never had gay twin.
49:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Now that you say that, yeah, I've never had a gay name.
49:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know one of those people that said, oh my god, all black people look like absolutely nothing.
49:13
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys literally have like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I used to get, I used to get so annoyed and I would be really annoyed by it because I was like, we don't look alike.
49:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I would be so mad.
49:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And then one day I was at Adam's Halloween party and he was there and I came up to him and I was like, you know, people would say that we look alike.
49:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what do you think?
49:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, totally.
49:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, actually think it'd be kind of like cousins.
49:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I was like, well, if you say it,
49:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you guys walked in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my goodness.
49:40
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
49:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, I'm a classy person, as I'm sure he is too.
49:45
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
49:46
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time for an early segment.
49:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Verizon really patient, buzzing in, not buzzing in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Friday now gets three minutes of uninterrupted time to ask whatever to you for questions from the peanut gallery.
49:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, have you been thinking about these questions?
50:00
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but I already have them.
50:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
50:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's more toxic, a top or a bottom?
50:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, a top, I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think tops just don't make sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At least bottoms have rationale, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Real aberrant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like if something's going wrong with a top, I feel like they don't make sense.
50:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it just doesn't make sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Their rationale is like avoid it and I feel like a bottom is gonna be like confrontational and to me that makes more sense as a first.
50:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, who doesn't I prefer a fight that like makes sense like with logic like I'm like, let's fight and talk about it Versus like avoid it and like never talk again.
50:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's like weird Not fun.
50:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
50:48
[SPEAKER_01]: It's your show.
50:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I was just like, so if you could write a song about that, what would you call it?
50:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I've written so many I call it as all-finding games the album.
50:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like personal personal spades Wait, why per spade?
51:02
[SPEAKER_02]: because the bottom's gonna have the person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, is that like, fucked up?
51:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
51:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I honestly didn't say it was kind of story really gonna hit you with your purse But it's even on him though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the other guy.
51:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that'd be so chic like I imagine them Hopper off the photo like you're in a fight and like someone like hits with a purse like that'd be so chic It not I shot him or mom like that would be so chic if you saw a celebrity gay couple and like someone got like hit with a purse Like that's so chic like so it's like and it would have to be not by like Not looks Gary bring back celebrities with purses
51:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's bring, like, what, who are the hot gays celebrity couples right now that aren't married?
51:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they're all closet-ed.
51:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyways.
51:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's really not.
51:46
[SPEAKER_00]: For anything else from you.
51:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, I do have one more question.
51:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my goodness.
51:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, like, is there a boyfriend reveal on this album?
51:54
[SPEAKER_00]: No, there's no boyfriend reveal on the album.
51:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Is there an FWB reveal in the album?
51:58
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
51:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just like me and myself, I dance fun hot vibes.
52:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like me myself, you and I it's like all of us We're all encompassing.
52:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really all fun and games with all of us.
52:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
52:11
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like all through a setting of like living in a city and It's like sex.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like gay sex in the city honestly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, and you're a carry-bratch and I'm carry-bratch-aw And just like that and the writing instead of it being like it's like Gaggy Those are all my questions.
52:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
52:29
[SPEAKER_02]: That was those are great.
52:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
52:33
[SPEAKER_01]: He yields this time.
52:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Our last segment here is a doozy.
52:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, sometimes, you have to get some off your chest.
52:38
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to scream into the void.
52:39
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to let the girls know.
52:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And now is your time.
52:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have anything to get off your chest?
52:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think New York Fashion Week is that cool.
52:48
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Drew, I think it's like a little overrated to for all the who-plot that it's worth.
52:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I wanna get that off my chest.
52:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I also, I think we need to support gay musicians more.
53:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the cause coming from inside the house for multiple reasons.
53:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't wanna hear the excuses, but gay men just don't make as great as music as women.
53:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, maybe that's a little true.
53:14
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, that's not that true.
53:18
[SPEAKER_02]: all the gays are tacky, not true.
53:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they're not true.
53:22
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not all tacky.
53:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Some are.
53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: How good you put tacky?
53:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Who?
53:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Any way, continue.
53:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really know any gay artists that are tacky to me.
53:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Like,
53:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Right because they're not going to be big because they're talking.
53:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Grande, maybe.
53:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, is he an artist?
53:38
[SPEAKER_02]: But sometimes that's like tacky as like a vibe.
53:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I also think art is subjective, right?
53:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what I mean?
53:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
53:46
[SPEAKER_02]: We should support gay artists more because the more we support them, the better they'll get.
53:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And then like more people will want to associate with us.
53:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Like all of our really successful gay musicians.
53:58
[SPEAKER_02]: All have that great association with like other like pop divas or like.
54:04
[SPEAKER_02]: people affect and we need to like the more we support that I think the more you will get the quality pop like we were like oh we want like a gay like musician like you will get one if you build up believe in life after love hmm they have to grow we have to we have to plant the seeds and grow them they will not pop out of the air
54:25
[SPEAKER_01]: For I, is there anything from you?
54:26
[SPEAKER_01]: No, this is fabulous.
54:28
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to get anything off your chest.
54:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I do have one thing to get on my chest.
54:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, this is so random.
54:34
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a bit of my mind, and it's so off topic to what we're talking about, but why don't girls know when they're talking to a real athlete or not?
54:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I just still can't get over that guy who got away with that scam.
54:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Really, that's what happened.
54:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't heard about this.
54:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Tell us more.
54:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a guy, his name is Dejon Love, and he basically would like hitting up all these girls who I believe were desperate millennials because Gen Z girls don't fall for this.
54:56
[SPEAKER_00]: But he basically would tell them that he had a business.
54:58
[SPEAKER_00]: He wanted them to invest in, and they would invest in it, but really he was just pocketing the money, and he wasn't even an athlete.
55:03
[SPEAKER_02]: But what was the business he was like coaching them?
55:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Or like...
55:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he wasn't, he didn't really say he just claimed that he was like a former athlete.
55:11
[SPEAKER_00]: No, he pretended to be a 49er's player that he, they never thought to look it up.
55:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
55:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Hang it up.
55:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Flat screen.
55:19
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
55:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's crazy.
55:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we're not going to look it up.
55:22
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
55:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're, you can ask your dad, your brother, your mom, your sister.
55:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, come on.
55:26
[SPEAKER_02]: The first thing I would do is I would want to see the photo that he has.
55:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And he said he had like, like, a hundred and something mil and real estate.
55:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, huh?
55:37
[SPEAKER_00]: How are people getting this camp don't know they should they shouldn't get their money back.
55:41
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no Do you think gay is getting scammed as easy as everyone else like do you think a gay is more likely to get scammed or more I'm like, will you take it scam?
55:50
[SPEAKER_02]: So not a 10 Would like on this like heavy on getting scammed.
55:55
[SPEAKER_00]: What do they get scammed out of though?
55:56
[SPEAKER_00]: All pay for sniffies.
55:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't pay for sniffies.
55:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm no Maybe they're getting scammed out of some of the only fans accounts.
56:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never really been on only fans like that
56:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Like some of the accounts are probably like scams.
56:09
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
56:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Or I.
56:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's gonna make us people getting scams for.
56:13
[SPEAKER_02]: They're a good quality figure.
56:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I think paying for like outside of Raya, I think paying for a dating app like to be seen is a scam because I agree.
56:21
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a scam.
56:22
[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
56:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Because Raya was doing that before it was like everyone was doing that.
56:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So I can't give them like I can't give them hassle, but I need to bring back some good quality scams.
56:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
56:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Blambring?
56:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what's that a skim?
56:36
[SPEAKER_01]: That was more of like ice.
56:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, the only thing I have to get off my chest.
56:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, we kind of touched on this in a minute.
56:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see the girls carry purses.
56:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see the pop stars carry their own bags.
56:47
[SPEAKER_01]: What happened to, oh, it's Paris Hilton on the carpet with her purse.
56:50
[SPEAKER_01]: This is why it's UK's Sheek.
56:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Why am I not seeing the girl's carry their own luggage?
56:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Why am I not seeing a person fight in public anymore?
56:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Why is a chat to a more modern driveway not being filled with perspites?
57:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to see discourse with a mini bag, a big bag, a bag on a bag, a cross-potty.
57:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I want to see public bags on display and have a little discourse with them.
57:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, I have a bag today.
57:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to chat to one hour?
57:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I could.
57:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to hit a girl?
57:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
57:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I can never.
57:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't hit me.
57:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm litigious.
57:23
[SPEAKER_02]: We could do a slow back fight.
57:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, when the bag looks like it's in someone, because it's really heavy.
57:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see it sway.
57:29
[SPEAKER_00]: The Louis Vuitton, metallic bags.
57:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
57:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
57:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Hit her with your bag.
57:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
57:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Next time you're thinking about throwing a migraine, it's a throw a drink.
57:42
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my dream.
57:42
[SPEAKER_01]: You watch too many white women on housewives.
57:45
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like, it's so fulfilling because you start so off topic, but it's so fulfilling to throw a drink and my, in my,
57:54
[SPEAKER_02]: thoughts because you would throw it, they're make-ups ruined, if they're going to make up.
58:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Their hair is probably a little messed up.
58:01
[SPEAKER_02]: The outfit is done for, so they have to go.
58:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you throw it right where it's like this, they can't throw it back.
58:09
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to throw it and knock their drink out.
58:11
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, double homicide, man.
58:14
[SPEAKER_02]: If not, they'll throw their drink back at you in your way.
58:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And that makes sense.
58:17
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to know you're going to do it and you have to see where their drink is.
58:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Go,
58:22
[SPEAKER_02]: and then they have to leave.
58:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's like you and the fight.
58:25
[SPEAKER_02]: That's like another dream I'm having.
58:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, the chillies dream and also that dream.
58:30
[SPEAKER_02]: But maybe I'll settle for the purse fight, I think that'll be what I do and it's done.
58:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, everyone, that is bronze.
58:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Avery, everybody.
58:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Give it up.
58:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, give it a good first fight.
58:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, and be sure to stream the new album.
58:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, I hope you're coming on.
58:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you enjoy yourself.
58:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I had so much fun.
58:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And for I stay thick.
58:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thank you.
58:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll try.
58:51
[SPEAKER_01]: You can always bathe, you know what I mean?
58:53
[SPEAKER_00]: You always stay thick.