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Another Man was Mowing His Lawn_ The Double Murder of Amanda Colley and Lindy Dobbins(MP3_160K) · NO FILTER

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Speaker 1: The view of the Cawley family home on South Bolaggio
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Speaker 1: Drive in Saint Augustine was the picture of suburban contentment
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Speaker 1: until it wasn't. Only minutes after an officer from the
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Speaker 1: Saint John's County Sheriff's Office left the quiet cul de Sac,
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Speaker 1: emergency calls would bring deputies, search teams, and crime scene
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Speaker 1: units back out to the neighborhood. Inside the house, two
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Speaker 1: young mothers had been murdered. Hi everyone, I'm Kevin, and
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Speaker 1: welcome to just that lounge. Today's case is not much
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Speaker 1: of a murder mystery. What it is is the story
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Speaker 1: of a relentless and thorough investigation that painstakingly pieced together
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Speaker 1: every message, every phone call, every movement, and every witness
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Speaker 1: to a shocking and horrific crime. In doing so, despite
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Speaker 1: the best efforts of an unusual and creative defense, authorities
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Speaker 1: left little room for doubt. Let's take a look. On
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Speaker 1: the morning of August twenty seventh, twenty fifteen, a home
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Speaker 1: security camera facing South Beolagio Drive in Saint Augustine, Florida,
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Speaker 1: captured a group of friends arriving at a house on
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Speaker 1: the end of a quiet suburban cul de sac at
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Speaker 1: ten minutes after nine that morning, thirty six year old
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Speaker 1: mother of two Amanda Colly returned home in her white SUV. Amanda,
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Speaker 1: recently separated from her husband, had spent the night at
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Speaker 1: her boyfriend's RV. Upon returning to her home, Amanda was
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Speaker 1: met with a chaotic scene. Her house had been broken
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Speaker 1: into and ransacked. Garbage bins had been emptied across the floors,
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Speaker 1: drawers emptied of contents, clothing scattered everywhere, and multiple electronics,
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Speaker 1: including television sets, had been destroyed. Pieces of broken glass
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Speaker 1: were scattered amongst the rest of the mess Amanda was upset,
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Speaker 1: but not surprised. She had been ignoring phone calls and
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Speaker 1: angry text messages from her estranged husband since five a m.
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Speaker 1: That morning. She was certain that he was responsible, but
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Speaker 1: unsure of how to proceed. Roughly a half hour later,
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Speaker 1: Amanda's boyfriend, Lamar, doubberly drove out to meet her. His
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Speaker 1: white pickup truck took a wide turn at the end
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Speaker 1: of the cul de sac, then towards Amanda's house on
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Speaker 1: the far left, slightly out of view. Lamar was followed
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Speaker 1: only minutes later by a Saint John's County's Public Service
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Speaker 1: Assistance or PSA officer sent over by the Sheriff's Department
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Speaker 1: for non emergency investigations. The officer viewed the state of
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Speaker 1: the house and spoke with Amanda. She needed time to
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Speaker 1: discuss with her divorce attorney and made the decision not
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Speaker 1: to formally file charges that morning. There was little more
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Speaker 1: that the PSA officer could do. The officer left Amanda
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Speaker 1: Colly's house at ten twenty nine that morning. What occurred
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Speaker 1: over the next seven to ten minutes would forever change
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Speaker 1: the course of many lives and and others. Two more
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Speaker 1: of Amanda's friends arrived at the house to support her. First,
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Speaker 1: Amanda's best friend, thirty nine year old mother of three,
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Speaker 1: Lyndy Dobbins. Lindy left work that morning after hearing from Amanda.
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Speaker 1: She was the type of person who would drop everything
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Speaker 1: to help a friend in need. Lyndy, Lamar, and Amanda
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Speaker 1: were soon joined by mutual friend Rachel Hendrix, who, having
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Speaker 1: dropped her children at school, also drove over to the
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Speaker 1: house to help out. The group of four stood in
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Speaker 1: the living room of the house on Vllagio Drive, staring
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Speaker 1: at the mess and consoling Amanda through her teas hears.
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Speaker 1: When gunshots rang out. Bullets flew through the room, shattering
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Speaker 1: the glass doors that led out to the backyard. Only
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Speaker 1: minutes after the PSA officer left, Lamar is captured running
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Speaker 1: at full speed from the house. He left the living room,
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Speaker 1: through the laundry room and into the garage, where he
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Speaker 1: ducked under the partially opened door and out through the
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Speaker 1: front yard. Running between two neighboring houses, he continued until
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Speaker 1: he came across a landscaping team several streets over there,
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Speaker 1: he finally paused and asked for help.
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Speaker 2: Shots were fired from the outside into the house.
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Speaker 3: And do you know who it was?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 5: I have a great idea who it was.
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Speaker 1: Okay, are they still there?
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I left ahead of run.
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Speaker 3: Gunshots didn't hit anybody, correct, No, they hit the back
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Speaker 3: and glashed at it everywhere.
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Speaker 5: They hit the flag last one. I think the shots
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Speaker 5: reigned at me.
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Speaker 1: Only a few minutes after Lamar ran from the house,
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Speaker 1: Rachel Hendricks followed. Rachel ran two doors over to the
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Speaker 1: home of the Dickens family. Once inside, she hid in
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Speaker 1: a closet and called nine one one.
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Speaker 4: Dressed my house, dr house.
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Speaker 2: We had a very annoying her.
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Speaker 4: Shooting and I am clian.
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Speaker 3: I'm so there, I am.
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Speaker 4: Grating bold heard right star here the neighbor, but he's
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Speaker 4: blamed me. Rank shot.
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Speaker 2: I heard the I asured yeah.
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Speaker 6: I.
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Speaker 2: Ready dollar, I'm war I'm scared yet.
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Speaker 1: Two additional calls to nine one one were placed from
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Speaker 1: inside the house, one by Amanda and another by Lindy.
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Speaker 1: These recordings captured only muffled noises, cries, and gunshots inside
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Speaker 1: the house on South Belagio Drive. Police found Amanda Colly.
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Speaker 1: She had been shot nine times. Many had struck her
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Speaker 1: arms and legs, suggesting that she had attempted to shield
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Speaker 1: herself from the attack. Amanda's best friend, Lindy, was found
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Speaker 1: in the back of a long, narrow closet off of
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Speaker 1: the en suite bathroom, which connected through the master bedroom.
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Speaker 1: Lindy had been shot three times. Neither young mother survived
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Speaker 1: their injuries. Rachel explained to law enforcement that she saw
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Speaker 1: the gunman through the glass doors, which overlooked the backyard
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Speaker 1: of the property. Just behind the fence is a walking
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Speaker 1: path that weaves behind the homes on south below. The
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Speaker 1: man fired from a position on this path. The bullet
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Speaker 1: holes in the glass doors and the unused rounds located
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Speaker 1: in the grass on the trail confirmed Rachel and Lamar's
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Speaker 1: eyewitness accounts. Lamar, having returned to the scene when it
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Speaker 1: was safe to do so, told investigators that he heard
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Speaker 1: the sound of gunshots simultaneous to the shattering of one
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Speaker 1: of the glass doors. Amongst this chaos, a man's voice
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Speaker 1: yelled out, where is he? Where is he? It took
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Speaker 1: only moments for Lamar to register the situation, Connecting that
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Speaker 1: he was the likely target of this attack. He called
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Speaker 1: out to the others to run and took off from
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Speaker 1: the house through the garage. The three women faithfully ran
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Speaker 1: in the other direction, towards the bedroom and through to
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Speaker 1: the adjoining bathroom. Rachel told police that she and Lindy
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Speaker 1: hid in the bathroom closet while Amanda remained on the
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Speaker 1: other side of the door. Rachel listened while the gunman
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Speaker 1: and entered the house through the shattered doors and then
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Speaker 1: into the bathroom where they hid. Rachel heard the man
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Speaker 1: demand repeatedly, where is he? He ignored Amanda when she
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Speaker 1: explained that it was only Rachel and Lindy in the closet.
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Speaker 1: Lindy had called out, it's me it's Lindy. Yet a
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Speaker 1: shot was fired through the closet door. The gunshot grazed
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Speaker 1: Rachel's arm and caused her to release the tight hold
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Speaker 1: that she had maintained on the doorknob, keeping them safely inside.
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Speaker 1: This same gunshot would strike Lindy in the foot. Amanda
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Speaker 1: had also been injured, but was alive. When the gunman
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Speaker 1: turned his attention to the closet entering, he pushed the
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Speaker 1: door wide, concealing Rachel behind it. As he approached Lindy
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Speaker 1: towards the back, crouched slightly behind a chest of drawers.
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Speaker 1: Rachel saw her opportunity and made a run out of
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Speaker 1: the closet, then out of the house. She did not
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Speaker 1: witness her friend's final moments inside. Rachel did, however, yet
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Speaker 1: a good look at the gunman, a man she knew
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Speaker 1: from countless meetings, whose children she used to babysit, who
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Speaker 1: would have once been considered a friend. It was Amanda
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Speaker 1: Colly's estranged husband, James Coley Junior. K nine units were
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Speaker 1: brought in to track James cauley scent to determine the
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Speaker 1: direction that he had fled. They tracked him back through
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Speaker 1: the trail over a burm and to a neighboring street.
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Speaker 1: A cyclist discovered his cell phone that morning discarded near
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Speaker 1: to a neighboring road, but the vehicle that he had
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Speaker 1: driven to the neighborhood that morning was long gone. Helicopters
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Speaker 1: scanned the area as the hours passed, Saint John's County
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Speaker 1: Sheriffs launched a systematic search. Police believed that he was
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Speaker 1: still armed, and after opening fire on his family home
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Speaker 1: in broad daylight, they remained uncertain of what he may
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Speaker 1: do next. Hours later, police officers in Norton, Virginia pulled
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Speaker 1: over James Coley Junior, driving his sister's car and armed
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Speaker 1: with multiple weapons. Inside the vehicle were the two guns
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Speaker 1: used in the murders, a nine millimeter and a forty
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Speaker 1: five caliber handgun. Handfuls of loose ammunition sat on the
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Speaker 1: front passenger's seat. If there was any doubt still remaining
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Speaker 1: that he had been the shooter, shards of glass from
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Speaker 1: the house were also found inside the driver side door.
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Speaker 1: By August twenty fifteen, James Coley Junior, who often went
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Speaker 1: by j R. And wife Amanda, had been married for
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Speaker 1: eight years. The couple shared two children together. As the
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Speaker 1: marriage fell apart. Early that summer, the two separated. James
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Speaker 1: moved in with his sister Ronda, whose home on Garrison
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Speaker 1: Drive was roughly fifteen miles away from their marital home
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Speaker 1: on South Bellagio. Over the next few months, the couple
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Speaker 1: worked through many hurdles, shared and custody of their two
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Speaker 1: young children. James began seeing someone new, a colleague from
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Speaker 1: his job at Citibank named Amy. The two began making
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Speaker 1: plans for their future together for when the divorce with
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Speaker 1: Amanda was complete. Amanda was similarly moving on. She and
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Speaker 1: Lamar met at the Sportswear Company, where they both worked,
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Speaker 1: Lamar in operations and Amanda in customer service. Despite the
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Speaker 1: physical separation and his new relationship, it seems that things
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Speaker 1: between Amanda and James, at least in the mind of
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Speaker 1: James Collie, were not over. He repeatedly demanded to know
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Speaker 1: if Amanda was seeing another man, a fact that she
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Speaker 1: was unwilling to confirm to him, but James had other
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Speaker 1: means of sorting this out. The weekend before the shooting,
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Speaker 1: James received a photo that had been taken by his
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Speaker 1: former neighbor and close friend, Mike Dickens. The photo showed
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Speaker 1: a topless man mowing their front lawn on Bellaggio Drive.
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Speaker 1: That man was Lamar Dubberly, though James did not know
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Speaker 1: his identity at that time, he knew only that his
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Speaker 1: suspicions about what he called Amanda's affair were being verified.
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Speaker 1: In the early morning hours of August twenty seventh, the
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Speaker 1: day of the shooting, James set out looking for more
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Speaker 1: clues of this relationship and the man who had been
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Speaker 1: cutting his former lawn. By just after four thirty am
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Speaker 1: that morning, he seemed to have found what he was
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Speaker 1: looking for. There is no video of James Caully breaking
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Speaker 1: into the house on South Bellagio in the early morning
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Speaker 1: hours on the day of the murders. He likely approached
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Speaker 1: the house undetected through the backyard, as he would do
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Speaker 1: again armed with two handguns only hours later, with his
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Speaker 1: children safe in bed at his sister's home several miles away.
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Speaker 1: He first entered his family's house at around three a m.
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Speaker 1: To find that his estranged wife was not at home,
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Speaker 1: that Amanda was staying elsewhere. He ransacked the house, throwing clothing, garbage,
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Speaker 1: and other items on the floor and destroying more than
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Speaker 1: one television set. Then at four forty am. His truck
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Speaker 1: is caught driving towards the end of the cul de
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Speaker 1: sac and pulling into the drive at Mike's house. There,
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Speaker 1: James woke up his friend by banging loudly on a
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Speaker 1: side door. He wanted to show Mike what he had
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Speaker 1: found inside Amanda's house, a handful of newly purchased adult toys.
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Speaker 1: By entering the house on South Blagio, James had violated
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Speaker 1: again a domestic violence injunction taken out on him by
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Speaker 1: Amanda earlier in the month. He was not allowed to
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Speaker 1: be near her or the property. Mike told his friend
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Speaker 1: to calm down. He gave James one or two beers
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Speaker 1: and sent him home to go to bed, but James
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Speaker 1: Colly Junior was not about to calm down. Following the
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Speaker 1: traffic stop in Virginia, James was arrested and charged with
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Speaker 1: two counts of first degree premeditated murder, two counts of
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Speaker 1: attempted murder, burglary of the house, and aggravated stalking after
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Speaker 1: an injunction. After pleading not guilty, James sat in county jail. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: investigators with the Saint John's County Sheriff's department began to
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Speaker 1: piece together his movements between leaving his friend Mike Dickens
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Speaker 1: home that morning at roughly four to forty five am
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Speaker 1: and his returned to South Bellaggio at ten thirty. These
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Speaker 1: actions were key to proving what the state prosecutors already
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Speaker 1: believed that the photo of Lamar Topless cutting the grass
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Speaker 1: that weekend, followed by the discovery of toys purchased by Amanda,
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Speaker 1: were the catalyst for the murders. James was fueled by
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Speaker 1: anger that had been ignited by the photo and then
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Speaker 1: boiled over on the morning of the twenty seventh, beginning
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Speaker 1: just before five a m. After leaving Mike Dickens. The
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Speaker 1: calls and texts from James to Amanda began. Between that
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Speaker 1: time and the moment he began firing into the house.
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Speaker 1: James called Amanda's phone twenty two times. I want to
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Speaker 1: bring aping course about.
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Speaker 4: What you really are. Every no, no, what you really are.
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Speaker 4: You're luck down about thee Amanda, that's what you are.
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Speaker 7: Play Maybe play the.
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Speaker 4: Last problem of Dollar they play.
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Speaker 1: Between his angry then desperate voicemails, James was sending text messages,
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Speaker 1: you should have just told me the truth. If this
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Speaker 1: is what you wanted. I would have left you alone.
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Speaker 1: I'm giving you a chance to walk away.
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Speaker 6: Now.
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Speaker 1: You should have just told me I could have moved on.
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Speaker 1: Eight years and two kids. Please call me and I'm
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Speaker 1: going to come find you. His last call registered at
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Speaker 1: ten twenty two a m. Only minutes before shots were
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Speaker 1: fired on the house. Only three of James's calls to
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Speaker 1: his estranged wife were answered. The first two were very
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Speaker 1: short in duration. The third call lasted slightly longer, just
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Speaker 1: under fifteen minutes. The state believed that whatever was said
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Speaker 1: on that call may have been the final trigger sending
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Speaker 1: James Caley Junior into a rage. James Cally's defense team
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Speaker 1: prepared to argue that he was not guilty of the
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Speaker 1: charges against him due to involuntary intoxication. Beginning two days
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Speaker 1: before the murders, James began consuming a dangerous combination of substances.
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Speaker 1: He had been prescribed symbalta for his anxiety and hydrocodone
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Speaker 1: for pain. James drank eleven pints of beer in August
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Speaker 1: twenty sixth, then consumed more scattered drinks throughout the next day.
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Speaker 1: After returning to his sister's home following the break in
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Speaker 1: and early morning visit with Mike Dickens. He took ambient
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Speaker 1: before going to sleep. James awoke only a few hours later,
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Speaker 1: arguably still under the influence of the drug in conjunction
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Speaker 1: with a combination of others. At about the same time
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Speaker 1: that Amanda was returning to her home that morning, James
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Speaker 1: Cawley arrived at the courthouse for a hearing on an
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Speaker 1: unrelated violation of his domestic violence injunction. He entered the
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Speaker 1: courthouse calmly and followed the proper procedures through building security.
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Speaker 1: James is then captured on camera navigating the halls and
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Speaker 1: entering court for his hearing. He appeared as far as
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Speaker 1: could be clearly seen, calm and collected. In court, James
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Speaker 1: listened and responded to the judges questions, including denying that
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Speaker 1: he was under the influence of any intoxicants. He pleaded
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Speaker 1: no contest to the violation. When James left the courthouse
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Speaker 1: that morning, he continued his calls and texts to Amanda.
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Speaker 1: On his way back to his sister's home, he stopped
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Speaker 1: at the gas station to purchase a small amount of gas.
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Speaker 1: This purchase was made either to get him into work
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Speaker 1: or to top up the tank in preparation for fleeing
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Speaker 1: out of state after the attack. At his sister's house
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Speaker 1: on Garrison Drive, law enforcement found what they interpreted to
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Speaker 1: be further preparations for the shooting. In the bedroom where
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Speaker 1: James's other belongings were kept, was an empty gun holster
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Speaker 1: discarded on the floor from the closet, A gun case
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Speaker 1: for a shotgun had been pulled out, left sitting amongst
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Speaker 1: piles of ammunition. Dark jim bag next to the gun
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Speaker 1: case contained even more bullets. Included with the piles of
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Speaker 1: ammunition were forty five caliber zombie rounds, the same that
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Speaker 1: the medical examiner found had been fatal to Amanda Cally.
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Speaker 1: A gun case for a nine millimeter handgun was pulled
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Speaker 1: out from under the bed. On the bedside table were
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Speaker 1: James's medications, and inside the drawer the adult toys that
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Speaker 1: he had taken from the house the night before. When
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Speaker 1: the trial commenced, defense counsel left open the arguments that
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Speaker 1: they would use to explain James Cawley's actions. They had
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Speaker 1: lined up a clinical pharmacologist and clinical psychologist who were
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Speaker 1: prepared to explain how the medications that James had taken
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Speaker 1: could result in an inability to think clearly, act reasonably,
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Speaker 1: and most importantly, form intent to murder. Defense attorney Terry
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Speaker 1: Schumaker told the jury that there was something visibly wrong
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Speaker 1: with James when he attended the court hearing on the
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Speaker 1: morning of the murders. He had been the shooter on
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Speaker 1: South Bolaggio, there was no question about that, but he
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Speaker 1: was not in his right mind.
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Speaker 7: It's never been a question who did that.
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Speaker 4: The question is why did it happen? How? How could a.
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Speaker 7: Person that loved his family or anything in his life
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Speaker 7: do that?
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Speaker 3: How could a person who loves his kids more of
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Speaker 3: than anything in his life? Coaches football, coaches baseball, takes
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Speaker 3: a new Disney, goes on trips, make them more How
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Speaker 3: could that happen? Yes, they asked the same question a
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Speaker 3: number of times. Because he's looking at me, he realized, Yes,
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Speaker 3: he's a little nervous. Persons be a little more, sweating profusely.
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Speaker 7: It's jittery.
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Speaker 4: Just something didn't seem and how that can cause me.
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Speaker 7: Out?
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Speaker 4: Sleep walking can cause accident.
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Speaker 2: More reflection, In other words, the time these events are
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Speaker 2: gonna tell you that it's very possible that Jr.
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Speaker 7: Didn't know what he was doing or didn't know what.
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Speaker 1: The state laid out a thorough case. They first called
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Speaker 1: Rachel Hendricks to the stand to identify James as the shooter.
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Speaker 7: There was a last shattered glass shattering and.
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Speaker 4: Small solution I like.
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Speaker 5: Coming from that sight.
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Speaker 6: And so I looks out back.
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Speaker 7: From the class was shoed and falling on the floor.
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Speaker 7: So I love how back and ass to call it
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Speaker 7: standing in the backyard with a gun she n.
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Speaker 1: Mike Dickens' testimony established the events that the state believed
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Speaker 1: triggered James's motive, the photo of Lamar and the discovery
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Speaker 1: of the toys in Amanda's house, which James had promptly
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Speaker 1: shown to his friend after discovering them.
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Speaker 7: You just want to me to come outside of the frontier, strop.
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Speaker 4: Did he tell you why he wanted you to look
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Speaker 4: at pancio trup?
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Speaker 7: Not at the beginning, just kept telling me to.
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Speaker 4: Get out there and what I did or what I found, okay,
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Speaker 4: And he was upset about discovering these items. Is that correct?
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Speaker 8: It was?
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Speaker 7: Yes?
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Speaker 4: Did he tell you where he foundas toys? He did?
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Speaker 4: Where did he tell you he found them?
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Speaker 7: He told me at right inside of the house, and
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Speaker 7: he found this inside the house.
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Speaker 4: How did you respond to that?
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Speaker 7: Basically that, well, there's approved you know that she's cheating work,
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Speaker 7: great deal, who cares go? He was agitated, It was upset,
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Speaker 7: but he was up said it.
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Speaker 5: Was fine for another call.
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Speaker 1: Experts presented the data extracted from James's cell phone, including
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Speaker 1: both his call and text history, as well as his
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Speaker 1: location data. Text messages to Mike revealed James's anger and
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Speaker 1: frustration not just towards Amanda, but also towards her close
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Speaker 1: friends Lindy and Rachel. James appeared to blame Lindy in
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Speaker 1: particular for turning Amanda against him. Throughout July. He sent
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Speaker 1: a series of texts to Mike about Amanda's friends. He wrote,
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Speaker 1: Amanda met with Lindy. Thirty minutes later, she tells me
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Speaker 1: she no longer has feelings for me, and this is
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Speaker 1: bs she had those two bitches in her ear. The
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Speaker 1: jury also heard the angry messages that James left Amanda
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Speaker 1: on the morning of the murders. On one of these calls,
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Speaker 1: a voicemail was recorded that captured scuffling noises in voices
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Speaker 1: in the background. It occurred at the time that James
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Speaker 1: was thought to be at his sister's home collecting the guns.
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Speaker 1: In the background, the state believed James's father was yelling
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Speaker 1: at him and calling him a moron. It was further
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Speaker 1: evidence they argued that James packed up the guns with
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Speaker 1: the intent to use them. They believed his father tried
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Speaker 1: to stop him from leaving the house with the guns.
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Speaker 1: A call to his father's phone from James then took
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Speaker 1: place minutes later. That call occurred while James was en
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Speaker 1: route to South Blaggio just after ten am. A dog
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Speaker 1: walker who was near to James's father at the time
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Speaker 1: overheard the call.
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Speaker 9: I was to share and say, please, please, son, come
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Speaker 9: back and get your truck.
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Speaker 4: Don't do this.
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Speaker 8: Everybody knows what you've been through, personally other I was
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Speaker 8: doing most of the talking, but it was yelling.
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Speaker 4: Sorry, I couldn't hear.
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Speaker 8: Everything, and person said the only thing I heard clearly
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Speaker 8: is he said, I can't there anymore.
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Speaker 1: After the state rested its case, the defense changed tactics.
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Speaker 1: Video footage of James's courthouse hearing that morning, followed by
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Speaker 1: his gas station stop, multiple phone calls and messages seemed
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Speaker 1: to discredit any argument that he was incapacitated on the
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Speaker 1: morning of the murders. As they had initially argued, the
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Speaker 1: involuntary intoxication defense was abandoned. Instead, the defense sought to
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Speaker 1: poke holes in the theory that the murders were premeditated.
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Speaker 1: To do this, they had a key witness, not James
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Speaker 1: Colly himself, who would not testify, but rather his sister Ronda.
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Speaker 1: At the time of the murders, James had been living
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Speaker 1: at her house, but she was not at home. She
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Speaker 1: had just left on vacation to Italy. Two weeks after
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Speaker 1: the murders, Ronda told law enforcement that the shooting was
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Speaker 1: not planned in advance. She knew this, she said, because
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Speaker 1: the guns that were used had already been in her car,
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Speaker 1: the same vehicle that James had been driving that morning.
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Speaker 8: Did you live at the cross on? You didn't left
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Speaker 8: to go to the area? And what was the reason
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Speaker 8: for laughing that I had? You got into the vehicle
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Speaker 8: and lesson? Are going to be home for start of weeks?
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Speaker 4: And what guns? Did you laugh in your vehicle? I'm
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Speaker 4: a leader and he gets the.
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Speaker 7: Did you just say that.
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Speaker 4: Anybody want to be driving your Vita Colone? You would
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Speaker 4: like today?
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Speaker 7: Person nor.
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Speaker 1: The state clearly perceived Ronda's testimony about the guns to
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Speaker 1: be convenient. Her little brother, with whom she remained very close,
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Speaker 1: was facing a potential death sentence if convicted of first
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Speaker 1: degree murder in the state of Florida. Establishing reasonable doubt
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Speaker 1: as to his premeditation would downgrade the conviction to second
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Speaker 1: degree murder or even manslaughter and could save his life.
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Speaker 8: Or with you.
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Speaker 7: Deny anything.
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Speaker 4: Question would do to mind.
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Speaker 1: Ronda was questioned about alleged inconsistencies in her testimony. Two
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Speaker 1: weeks after the murder, she told a detective that it
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Speaker 1: was a forty five caliber and three point eighty that
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Speaker 1: were locked in her car. Later, at a deposition it
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Speaker 1: was a forty five or maybe a forty caliber handgun.
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Speaker 1: Only at trial had she become certain that the two
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Speaker 1: weapons she had left in her car were in fact
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Speaker 1: the two guns used to kill Amanda Coley and Lindy Dobbins.
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Speaker 8: Why are you guys saying this scree meditation when you
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Speaker 8: know that I'm from my cars right among.
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Speaker 4: Those lines right, you volunteered that. You're like, hey, it's
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Speaker 4: not It's not what you guys think of is you
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Speaker 4: go back at the guns in the car right right,
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Speaker 4: and you ask you what guns did you have in
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Speaker 4: your car?
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Speaker 10: Right?
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Speaker 4: And is that you said?
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Speaker 6: I think it might have been a forty five and
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Speaker 6: you but you said nothing about the non militia reader.
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Speaker 4: That was a whole lot of mediation too as well.
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Speaker 5: Okay, So your testimony here today is that your memory
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Speaker 5: about the guns that you let locked in your car
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Speaker 5: or went.
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Speaker 6: On your two weeks trip to Italy is clearer three
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Speaker 6: years after the back versus two weeks after the back?
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Speaker 4: Is that correct?
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Speaker 8: And Dan, I'm my share, Yes, I remember.
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Speaker 4: Any more things when you kept these guns in your car.
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Speaker 4: You didn't keep any knistion for the guns in your car,
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Speaker 4: did you? No?
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Speaker 3: I didn't you know?
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Speaker 6: Right?
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Speaker 7: The guns?
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Speaker 4: Okay, really didn't. You didn't like keep a box of
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Speaker 4: any unition in the front passenger seat, did you. You
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Speaker 4: didn't like keep loose bullets.
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Speaker 6: Rolling around on the front passenger's seat, correct, didn't have
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Speaker 6: anywhere in the parts.
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Speaker 1: You The Defense council argued that James did not go
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Speaker 1: to Amanda's home with the intention of killing anyone. They
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Speaker 1: speculated that something set James off once he arrived. The
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Speaker 1: defense did not know what, but argued that since the
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Speaker 1: guns were already in the car, This must have been
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Speaker 1: what happened.
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Speaker 5: Down the state line.
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Speaker 7: Shoot later, they drove all the way back to get
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Speaker 7: the guns. With the testimony today is that gone.
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Speaker 4: Were already in the car. I don't know what happened
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Speaker 4: to set them off.
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Speaker 7: The state doesn't know what happened.
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Speaker 3: I have no idea, but I can tell you that
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Speaker 3: he already had the.
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Speaker 4: Guns that she was going to go over there to do.
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Speaker 7: The seat have gone straight from court.
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Speaker 2: I would say that it's a secondary urd case, one
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Speaker 2: in which you shoot active with a depraved mind, and
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Speaker 2: that without regards for human mindy, you can find them
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Speaker 2: guilty of that name. But there hasn't been an improved
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Speaker 2: premeditation based on what the state is said today or
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Speaker 2: like the evidence shows.
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Speaker 1: The final phone call that James had held with Amanda
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Speaker 1: took place after his court appearance. The call lasted fourteen minutes.
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Speaker 1: It cannot be known exactly what was said. Prosecutor Jennifer
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Speaker 1: Dunton argued that this conversation was the final trigger. She
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Speaker 1: told the jury that from that point onwards, he had
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Speaker 1: many opportunities to change course, but did not.
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Speaker 9: I don't want you to forget about all the choices
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Speaker 9: he made on August twenty seven, all.
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Speaker 4: The time he had to reflect.
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Speaker 9: Don't forget that he could have left court and got
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Speaker 9: the work. Don't forget he could have let his issues
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Speaker 9: with Amanda go. You heard he had any girlfriend as well.
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Speaker 4: They had plans to go to the way.
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Speaker 5: He could have let up, but he couldn't.
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Speaker 4: Don't forget that he returned that house on garrison.
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Speaker 9: An team, those firearms that he drove fifteen miles.
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Speaker 8: It's a long time to think.
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Speaker 4: About the jury osage.
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Speaker 9: You don't forget that when he didn't find the mark
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Speaker 9: inside the home, that didn't stop.
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Speaker 4: He could left, He could be run out in the
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Speaker 4: front door looking for it, but it didn't stop.
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Speaker 9: When he couldn't find the mark, he continued to hunt
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Speaker 9: and for him decisions.
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Speaker 4: His dad begs him.
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Speaker 1: Not to do it.
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Speaker 9: People are telling him to stop, but he's not listening.
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Speaker 1: The jury deliberated for two hours before returning unanimous verdicts
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Speaker 1: on all counts.
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Speaker 6: James Jerry follows us to count one ano the United
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Speaker 6: guilty s charges of all first premeditated murder and first
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Speaker 6: refel on urder.
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Speaker 1: Contrary to Florida, he was found guilty on all seven
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Speaker 1: counts murder attempted murder as well as burglary charges.
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Speaker 9: Nothing will bring Amanda and Lindy back, but they are
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Speaker 9: satisfied with the jurys.
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Speaker 2: Love my son no matter what, and the whole story
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Speaker 2: of not bo.
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Speaker 1: The same jurors who convicted James Cowley returned the following
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Speaker 1: week to determine if his crimes warranted the death penalty.
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Speaker 1: The defense called the witnesses that had been prepared for
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Speaker 1: the potential involuntary intoxication defense. Doctor Mark Mills, a forensic psychiatrist,
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Speaker 1: testified that James was substantially impaired during the murders because
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Speaker 1: he was experiencing an ambient side effect called parisomnia. The
32:59
Speaker 1: doctors decribed at parisomnia as a sleep disorder where someone
33:03
Speaker 1: seems to be acting in a rational way but later
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Speaker 1: has no recollection of his or her actions. A clinical
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Speaker 1: pharmacologist gave testimony similar to doctor Mills's. To refute this testimony,
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Speaker 1: the state presented to witnesses doctor Jeffrey Danzinger, a forensic psychiatrist,
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Speaker 1: and Judge Charles Tinlin, who presided over the injunction violation
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Speaker 1: hearing the morning of the murders. Doctor Danzinger said that
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Speaker 1: People in a parisomnia state sometimes are able to engage
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Speaker 1: in behaviors like sleepwalking or driving a car, but generally
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Speaker 1: these behaviors are poorly coordinated, and to a layperson, those
33:45
Speaker 1: in such a state would appear confused, dazed, and obviously impaired.
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Speaker 1: It just so happened that there was video evidence of
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Speaker 1: James Cully's behavior and demeanor during the period that he
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Speaker 1: was arguably in a paris omnia state. Judge Tinlin testified
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Speaker 1: that he had no concerns that James Caully was impaired
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Speaker 1: during the hearing, his demeanor was fine. The jury recommended
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Speaker 1: that James Cally should receive a death sentence for each murder.
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Speaker 5: Having unanimously found that at least one actor in factors
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Speaker 5: been established beyond a reason of doubt, and that the
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Speaker 5: aggregating factors are sufficient and weren't a sentence of death.
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Speaker 1: A Spencer hearing was subsequently held, which was the last
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Speaker 1: opportunity for his attorneys to offer mitigating factors to the
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Speaker 1: court in the hope of vacating his death sentence. At
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Speaker 1: this hearing, James finally spoke out, albeit briefly, calling the
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Speaker 1: murders a terrible accident.
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Speaker 4: As to say, as it works like this was a
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Speaker 4: whole terrible accident and I wish would be a different
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Speaker 4: but I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: James Cauley's attempts at this hearing to avoid death row failed.
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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court of Florida later also affirmed his convictions
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Speaker 1: for first degree murder and his sentences of death For
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Speaker 1: the family and friends of Amanda and Lindy, their loss
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Speaker 1: means that this horrific ordeal will never truly be over.
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Speaker 10: Even though he's convicted. I don't know that it's you know,
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Speaker 10: it's it's not good enough because you can't get Lindy back.
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Speaker 10: You know, it's like a nightmare, and it's still a nightmare.
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Speaker 10: It'll always be a nightmare.
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