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- 0:10Speaker 1: Then, please, gentlemen, may I have your attention. Please the
- 1:15Speaker 1: show stops in he.
- 1:20Speaker 2: By eight.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Seven, six five, all three two one go.
- 1:37Speaker 3: Greetings, Hotep, Hotep, and Aquama, welcome yet again to another
- 1:42Speaker 3: live broadcast of our speaks building a new legacy here
- 1:47Speaker 3: with the Crew podcast again. This is your host, Queen Mother,
- 1:53Speaker 3: doctor Chinserah, and we're going to have a wonderful versation
- 1:58Speaker 3: this evening where we highlight a number of things that
- 2:00Speaker 3: are linked to today, for example, the opening of the
- 2:04Speaker 3: vernal equinox, the beginning of spring, where things are livening themselves.
- 2:11Speaker 3: We're focusing on being fulfilled, uplifted, healed, beyond word and
- 2:19Speaker 3: beyond measure right. And this is a great opportunity for
- 2:22Speaker 3: us to look into the other section, the other version
- 2:28Speaker 3: of how we bring truth as power, not just truth
- 2:32Speaker 3: to power, but truth as power. So you'll hear us
- 2:35Speaker 3: speaking of truth, justice, order, reciprocity, balance, divine righteousness, harmony,
- 2:41Speaker 3: all of those values, all of those virtues, all of
- 2:45Speaker 3: those qualities in four letters, my Aunt, part of what
- 2:50Speaker 3: we like to highlight tonight. And I have a very
- 2:52Speaker 3: special guest, and I'm looking forward to being able to
- 2:56Speaker 3: having that guest really add to some of theation that
- 3:00Speaker 3: we're going to highlight this evening, and before we go
- 3:04Speaker 3: to that, for those persons that are just getting familiarized
- 3:08Speaker 3: with us speaks, what does that really mean and what
- 3:12Speaker 3: does that really connect to and how does that fit
- 3:15Speaker 3: into some of the words that we're presenting here to
- 3:20Speaker 3: be able to keep people in a space of full
- 3:23Speaker 3: upliftment and engagement and love and building legacy and what
- 3:28Speaker 3: does that really translate into when we talk about building legacy.
- 3:34Speaker 3: This is an opportunity for persons to be a part
- 3:37Speaker 3: of an interdisciplinary, trans cultural type of media communicative broadcasts, podcasts,
- 3:45Speaker 3: all of these guests yeap to be able to share conversations.
- 3:50Speaker 3: What does she mean by conversations life for life propelled,
- 4:00Speaker 3: life giving, life centered conversations, and we choose to remove
- 4:08Speaker 3: the cut and put in the unk, so it's conversations
- 4:13Speaker 3: for us to just really beginning to give uplifting, life
- 4:17Speaker 3: centered discussions in a variety of areas. We talk about
- 4:23Speaker 3: the action you'll hear me speak that framework of actionable
- 4:28Speaker 3: deliverables the best of our ability so that we can
- 4:31Speaker 3: actually keep some things moving in accord that is very positive,
- 4:37Speaker 3: very loving, but also very direct, very very focused, very grounded.
- 4:44Speaker 3: And then we also speak of our perspectives on global affairs,
- 4:48Speaker 3: whether it's movements in the Caribbean space, whether we make
- 4:51Speaker 3: references to the forty eight Contiguous to US or the
- 4:54Speaker 3: wider Americas, because we know that when we say America
- 4:58Speaker 3: or we speak of the America, we're speaking from the
- 5:01Speaker 3: north wall to the South Pole, and not only the
- 5:03Speaker 3: forty eight Contiguous, and not only Canada and not only
- 5:08Speaker 3: the Caribbean, and not only Central America and South America.
- 5:11Speaker 3: We're speaking of the totality on this side of the Atlantic,
- 5:17Speaker 3: wrapping all the way over to the Pacific and moving forward. Yes,
- 5:21Speaker 3: so that's part of why we have these global ancversations
- 5:26Speaker 3: to be able to speak around a variety of issues.
- 5:29Speaker 3: With that being said, there's a lot that's happening in
- 5:33Speaker 3: the world right now. So what we desire to do
- 5:35Speaker 3: here at us Speaks be part of the crew podcasts
- 5:40Speaker 3: with the vibration of sisters as well as brothers that
- 5:46Speaker 3: are bringing this fusion, this synergy, this loving informative engagement,
- 5:55Speaker 3: so that when we begin to speak, when we begin
- 5:58Speaker 3: to teach, when we begin to take action, when we
- 6:04Speaker 3: begin to learn that we're able to speak about things
- 6:07Speaker 3: that are away from the distractions that are the common
- 6:14Speaker 3: theme that we might want to turn our back on.
- 6:18Speaker 3: Be mindful of what's happening, but let it do with
- 6:22Speaker 3: chaos and anarchy and mismanagement and anti humanism and chaos
- 6:27Speaker 3: on that side. So that's the other reason why when
- 6:30Speaker 3: we're going to speak and share tonight, we're going to
- 6:33Speaker 3: have an opportunity to bring some words of strength, some
- 6:38Speaker 3: clarity of engagement on how we begin to speak to
- 6:42Speaker 3: one another, with one another, etc. So with that, I'd
- 6:46Speaker 3: like to introduce one of my ilustrious, wise seasoned, experiential,
- 6:59Speaker 3: beyond measure regal, revolutionary, powerful and empowering African Queen mother
- 7:14Speaker 3: Warriors to the platform with me, and that is none
- 7:19Speaker 3: other than African Queen Mother Warrior Isis by two. Isis
- 7:25Speaker 3: asked to be exact greetings, African cream Mother Warrior.
- 7:31Speaker 2: Greetings, Greetings. I'm so honored to share this space with
- 7:34Speaker 2: you most glorious, wonderful, wise passionate, powerful and empowering African
- 7:42Speaker 2: Queen Mother Warrior, Senator Doctor Kinnor.
- 7:46Speaker 3: It's the honor that we share for sure, and we
- 7:49Speaker 3: know that we keep getting to our in the same space.
- 7:53Speaker 3: Next time we're going to just do the fusion and
- 7:56Speaker 3: really be able to just embrace and do some other works.
- 8:00Speaker 3: Thank you so much for tuning in joining the Crew podcast,
- 8:03Speaker 3: because this is an opportunity. As you see, it's a
- 8:06Speaker 3: number of systems that bring together a variety of truth experiences,
- 8:12Speaker 3: lived experiences and perspectives that really allow for us to
- 8:16Speaker 3: talk about things. So for those that do not know
- 8:19Speaker 3: this powerful sistren that is sharing the platform with me
- 8:24Speaker 3: this evening, I just would like to share a very
- 8:26Speaker 3: concise view. African Queen Mother Warrior isis by Sue to
- 8:34Speaker 3: now let her speak by two title stands first and
- 8:39Speaker 3: foremost as an African Queen Mother Warrior born in Trinidad
- 8:43Speaker 3: and Tobago of the Year of a Nation, A committed
- 8:46Speaker 3: activist with fifty plus years at the forefront of fighting
- 8:52Speaker 3: systemic racial justice and challenging structural racism, including as a
- 8:59Speaker 3: grassroots anti apart side activists during the eighties. She has
- 9:04Speaker 3: over twenty five years of leadership experience in a nonprofit sector,
- 9:09Speaker 3: holding various senior roles contributing to numerous networks, and a
- 9:14Speaker 3: multifaceted advocate, community organizer, project manager, and a dedicated, livicated
- 9:22Speaker 3: participatory solutions practitioner, using this essos to underpin her work
- 9:31Speaker 3: as a coach, facilitator, and trino. She is a skillful
- 9:37Speaker 3: public speaker. African Queen Mother of Warrior Isis is passionate
- 9:42Speaker 3: about language as a transformative tool and its power to
- 9:46Speaker 3: shape narrative. She is a poet, a radio presenter, and
- 9:51Speaker 3: a DJ. That's another conversation, because all of us to
- 9:56Speaker 3: halt DJ salent every second, they will come back. African
- 10:01Speaker 3: Queen Weather warrior Isis plays with words, experimenting and disregarding rules.
- 10:09Speaker 3: Language is the prize of the victim, the tool of
- 10:12Speaker 3: the oppressor. She describes herself as an eclectic African centric poet.
- 10:19Speaker 3: I want to say that one more time for the
- 10:21Speaker 3: persons in the back. An eclectic African centric poet. Her
- 10:28Speaker 3: poetry encapsulates her commitment to anti colonialists, anti racist, anti
- 10:36Speaker 3: imperialist struggle, identity, culture, and her story. Hence, she uses
- 10:44Speaker 3: poetry as advocacy. Lafia had tept Peace soncle justin ev
- 10:50Speaker 3: and I present so that you have some context of
- 10:53Speaker 3: who we're having this conversation with. African Queen Mother Warrior Vasu.
- 11:00Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I tell you, because you know, we could,
- 11:10Speaker 3: we could do this thing all day and we go
- 11:12Speaker 3: this way and so and this way and so. So
- 11:15Speaker 3: we're very grateful. And I would like to give a
- 11:18Speaker 3: special shout out to our visionary like no other of
- 11:20Speaker 3: the crew podcast, Queen Angela, who is making sure things
- 11:24Speaker 3: are happening in the background in the way that it
- 11:28Speaker 3: needs to happen in the background, so that we can
- 11:30Speaker 3: be in the forefront sharing this information. And I'd like
- 11:33Speaker 3: for you to I've said a lot in just introducing
- 11:36Speaker 3: d I, and I would love for you to, you know,
- 11:39Speaker 3: share with persons, you know some of your you know
- 11:41Speaker 3: some of your visions, what are the highlights of some
- 11:45Speaker 3: of the work, and definitely tell persons about some of
- 11:47Speaker 3: your DJing and your regular radio broadcast so that way
- 11:51Speaker 3: persons can also tune into that.
- 11:54Speaker 2: Yeah, well give science. As I said, I'm first and
- 11:59Speaker 2: foremost an African woman. I was born in Trinidad, Tobago
- 12:03Speaker 2: and I was taken without my consent by my mother
- 12:08Speaker 2: to England at the age of eleven. I was not
- 12:11Speaker 2: very happy about that. Nonetheless, I managed to navigate Babylon
- 12:17Speaker 2: Babylon system. There was a lot of challenges coming to
- 12:21Speaker 2: this place. It's not for the fainthearted amongst us. I
- 12:26Speaker 2: have to say, it's a bit of a baptism of fire.
- 12:29Speaker 2: But I basically grew up and was shaped in London,
- 12:36Speaker 2: in West London, and went on to carve out a
- 12:39Speaker 2: space for myself becoming an activist. Initially just sort of
- 12:44Speaker 2: like you know, like sixteen and fifteen, sort of that age,
- 12:48Speaker 2: going on anti war marches and various things, eventually ending
- 12:52Speaker 2: up on a picket outside the racist South African Embassy
- 12:57Speaker 2: as we called it back in the eighties, advocating for
- 13:01Speaker 2: the release of Nelson Mandela and all the political prisoners.
- 13:06Speaker 2: Eventually moving through that work into Pan Africanism because of
- 13:10Speaker 2: my close relationship that I built with the Pan Africanist
- 13:13Speaker 2: Congress of Asanna, and from there really that was the
- 13:17Speaker 2: jumping off point for my activism, and I suppose I've
- 13:20Speaker 2: been involved in various forms of activism ever since. Been
- 13:25Speaker 2: involved in many campaigns, a lot of anti racist work
- 13:28Speaker 2: I wasn't black and anti racist officer for a while,
- 13:30Speaker 2: also legal work. I did briefly want to become a
- 13:34Speaker 2: barristeron in embarks on a law degree in my kind
- 13:37Speaker 2: of early twenties but then other things gone in the way.
- 13:40Speaker 2: I met my ex husband, got married, had my first
- 13:44Speaker 2: child and my second child. Came to view law as
- 13:48Speaker 2: not something I really wanted to be a part of.
- 13:52Speaker 2: Moved on to advocacy because of my legal experience, advocating
- 13:55Speaker 2: for looked after children as we call them, children in
- 13:58Speaker 2: the care system. I did that work for a long time,
- 14:01Speaker 2: went on to run charities, running at you know, for
- 14:04Speaker 2: advocacy for disabled people, for people with mental health living
- 14:08Speaker 2: in the community, and in psychiatric or mental health units.
- 14:13Speaker 2: I've worked on mental health wards, I've worked in drug
- 14:16Speaker 2: and alcohol misuse and use. I've done the rounds. Really,
- 14:22Speaker 2: I've worked in many fields. And then and then my
- 14:24Speaker 2: expressive side in my poetry sort of came. I suppose,
- 14:29Speaker 2: you know, I was quite old really to come to it.
- 14:30Speaker 2: I was already in my forties when I really started
- 14:32Speaker 2: to write poetry. I've always loved music. Music has always
- 14:36Speaker 2: been at the core of my heart. I mean, I
- 14:38Speaker 2: come from a musical island.
- 14:41Speaker 3: We grew up with.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Music is a big part of us, with our steel
- 14:43Speaker 2: pan and Calizzo, and obviously in London with the big
- 14:47Speaker 2: Jamaican community. You know, a lot of our people are
- 14:50Speaker 2: African heritage of Jamaican, so the reggae a sound systems,
- 14:53Speaker 2: you know, the dance hall, all of that, and of course,
- 14:56Speaker 2: of course the influence of America soul blues, you know,
- 15:00Speaker 2: hip hop. Of course, I remember being in Queen's in
- 15:04Speaker 2: the early eighties as a teenager when hairing the double
- 15:07Speaker 2: Dutch Bus and Africa Bombas and all that stuff. So
- 15:10Speaker 2: music has always been a part of new words poetry,
- 15:13Speaker 2: and I've gone on now to host a couple of
- 15:16Speaker 2: radio programs. I do a couple of programs a week
- 15:19Speaker 2: on a Friday and a Saturday, and I write and
- 15:22Speaker 2: perform poetry and I DJ at events. So yeah, that's
- 15:27Speaker 2: I'm a mother. I have two daughters in their thursties
- 15:30Speaker 2: and one about to be thirty this year, one in
- 15:32Speaker 2: her early thirties, and that's who I am. Really.
- 15:35Speaker 3: Yeah, we're grateful. We're grateful for even the way in
- 15:38Speaker 3: which you present that, because this goes to some of
- 15:41Speaker 3: the verse stations that we were having a little earlier
- 15:44Speaker 3: and just putting in the context, you know, how do
- 15:47Speaker 3: we build legacy? What are the ways that our cistern
- 15:51Speaker 3: alongside our brethren. And when I say this, I'm speaking
- 15:55Speaker 3: of those that are willing to be in my art.
- 15:58Speaker 3: So for those that just came my odd this is
- 16:01Speaker 3: lesson too. Truth, justice, order, reciprocity, balance, divine righteousness, and harmony.
- 16:12Speaker 3: That's the concise element. We can sit here and have
- 16:16Speaker 3: disgusts on this for eons, but our focus is to
- 16:21Speaker 3: at least look at these seven virtue value, physicals, right
- 16:25Speaker 3: to be able to ground how we speak to each other,
- 16:30Speaker 3: how we work together, how we invest and trust and
- 16:35Speaker 3: respect and sustain, integrity and utilize ethics to ground all
- 16:43Speaker 3: the different things that we do. Yes, And with that
- 16:46Speaker 3: being said, you know there's a lot going on right now.
- 16:48Speaker 3: I mean every time you know inside of you look
- 16:52Speaker 3: inside of what side. For those of us that are
- 16:56Speaker 3: doing any kind of activity outside of our regular day work,
- 17:03Speaker 3: this is a time where like here, for example, in
- 17:06Speaker 3: the Virgin Islands, the month of March, while we're highlighting
- 17:09Speaker 3: the International Women's Month observances that are happening mutually globally,
- 17:15Speaker 3: and there's a lot of activities that have taking place
- 17:18Speaker 3: from the beginning of March all the way to the
- 17:20Speaker 3: end of March. You know, there's activities happening in the
- 17:23Speaker 3: United Nations specific to their commitment on the status of
- 17:26Speaker 3: women and all the different agencies and organizations and entities
- 17:31Speaker 3: that are speaking of the truth as powerful for women
- 17:36Speaker 3: right and how that balances with our families, with our children,
- 17:40Speaker 3: with men in society work. You know, where do we
- 17:44Speaker 3: place our sisters in some of these versations. You know,
- 17:48Speaker 3: I've spoken with a number of sisters who are actually
- 17:51Speaker 3: in New York during this particular time, and I found
- 17:55Speaker 3: it very interesting that some of the themes for International
- 17:59Speaker 3: Women's Months have been grounded or linked to, I should say,
- 18:08Speaker 3: a variety of initiatives around the awareness of the importance
- 18:15Speaker 3: of the protections, the security, and the equity that is
- 18:22Speaker 3: beyond deserving of our women folk. So I thought it
- 18:26Speaker 3: was really powerful to know that, you know, in addition
- 18:29Speaker 3: to that International Women's Day Peace that happens every March
- 18:33Speaker 3: eighth and is more connected to labor, that there are
- 18:37Speaker 3: these discussions around International Women's Months, and particularly through the lens.
- 18:44Speaker 3: I'm going to use the lens of the United Nations
- 18:46Speaker 3: primarily because that's who most people listen to in many respects,
- 18:53Speaker 3: or that's the entity that has the wider visibility. While
- 18:57Speaker 3: we know at the end of the day that our
- 19:01Speaker 3: women folk are the visibility. We are the source of
- 19:06Speaker 3: that energy, and we are the source of that engagement.
- 19:09Speaker 3: So I think it's really powerful for us to look
- 19:13Speaker 3: back and explore, you know, what does it mean to
- 19:17Speaker 3: be part of the international affairs that are linked to
- 19:24Speaker 3: not just Women's Day, but just the observance of international
- 19:29Speaker 3: women's initiatives. Because this year, part of the initiative through
- 19:34Speaker 3: the United Nations Women's Entity was exactly that. Rights, equality,
- 19:38Speaker 3: empowerment were some of their key themes, and we can
- 19:43Speaker 3: all speak to the fact that women around the world
- 19:48Speaker 3: are still in an active quest for quote equal rights,
- 19:56Speaker 3: quote equal opportunities and definitely called equal power. Right. What
- 20:03Speaker 3: are some of your reflections on that? African Queen Mother
- 20:06Speaker 3: Warrior isis.
- 20:08Speaker 2: Can you hear me?
- 20:09Speaker 3: Yes, I hear you.
- 20:10Speaker 2: Were so sorry my phone it just died like overheated.
- 20:15Speaker 2: This that really happens. I don't know what's going on
- 20:19Speaker 2: forces not the lining at the moment. Yes, yeah, I
- 20:25Speaker 2: just wanted to comment actually on the principles of my
- 20:28Speaker 2: heart before before we talk about I mean, my heart
- 20:32Speaker 2: is the bringer of the very principle of what people
- 20:35Speaker 2: call justice and law is precepts and.
- 20:42Speaker 1: For me.
- 20:44Speaker 2: This concept, the Mahartian principle is very important. You mentioned
- 20:48Speaker 2: my title Basu. I gained this title last year in
- 20:52Speaker 2: Jamaica when I was initiated into Bassou ship through training
- 20:56Speaker 2: to become basically an instructor in the kinetic yoga system
- 21:02Speaker 2: Chef Seema powered Netaru moving in Union and Company of
- 21:06Speaker 2: Goddesses and Gods as it translates. And as part of
- 21:09Speaker 2: that process, we embark on a forty two day Mahartic
- 21:15Speaker 2: fast starting on the first of January. So I did
- 21:18Speaker 2: that for forty two days during which we focus on
- 21:21Speaker 2: the forty two precepts of mahart So again, the focus
- 21:27Speaker 2: of the woman in African spirituality is very very important
- 21:33Speaker 2: and it's excuse me, it's only fitting that we were
- 21:39Speaker 2: now in March focusing on International Women's Month, Women's History Month.
- 21:44Speaker 2: It's also called and centering a woman because you know,
- 21:47Speaker 2: we come from a society of matriarchs. We come from
- 21:52Speaker 2: a society that before certainly before the advent of colonialism
- 21:58Speaker 2: and the invasion of the Europeans and the bringers of
- 22:01Speaker 2: Eurocentric ideas and practices, we valued and placed our women
- 22:06Speaker 2: in high regard and so part of us or for
- 22:10Speaker 2: part of that part of what we as Africans must
- 22:14Speaker 2: be focusing on during these months, but not just of
- 22:16Speaker 2: course one month. I mean fifty one people. I keep
- 22:18Speaker 2: saying fifty one percent of the population of the world
- 22:21Speaker 2: of women. But focusing on is reclamation, reclaiming that which
- 22:26Speaker 2: we had, reinstituting our matriarchal societies, recentering our women, our
- 22:32Speaker 2: African women, our queens, our goddesses, our emphasis back into
- 22:36Speaker 2: the position that we once were in valuing us, our contributions.
- 22:42Speaker 2: And it's really important because I remember one of the
- 22:47Speaker 2: African Queen Mother Risings section sessions of Sessions podcasts that
- 22:51Speaker 2: were done talking about how we as African women who
- 22:56Speaker 2: follow these principles, these spiritual principles, when we we talk
- 23:01Speaker 2: about centering women, when we talk about ensuring women are
- 23:05Speaker 2: empowered and enabled, and that women have a voice and
- 23:09Speaker 2: are seen and heard, and that women are valued. We're
- 23:12Speaker 2: not in any way denigrating our brothers. We are not feminists.
- 23:16Speaker 2: We don't believe in none of that that white womness.
- 23:19Speaker 2: We are actually womanists. We are African womenists. We love
- 23:24Speaker 2: our African men, our African brothers, our sisters, our uncles,
- 23:28Speaker 2: our fathers, our sons, and we are simply reclaiming balance
- 23:36Speaker 2: a Sah and a set. We're simply balancing the male
- 23:42Speaker 2: and female principle. We're also not asking for equality because
- 23:47Speaker 2: nobody there's no such thing as equality. Again, this is
- 23:50Speaker 2: another Setian principle. This is another trick of the I
- 23:55Speaker 2: spoke about language. There's a whole thing about doublespeaker. Those
- 23:58Speaker 2: of you who know about George All, well, the man
- 24:01Speaker 2: was a prophet, a European prophet, because all that he
- 24:04Speaker 2: said about double speech came to pat We're not looking
- 24:07Speaker 2: for equality for women. Women and men are not equal,
- 24:10Speaker 2: We're not the same. We're looking for equity, which is
- 24:12Speaker 2: very different. Equity in a system and an inequitable system.
- 24:18Speaker 2: Equality is can never happen between a man and a
- 24:21Speaker 2: woman because a woman is not a man and a
- 24:23Speaker 2: man is not a woman. But we are no lesser,
- 24:26Speaker 2: we are different and we complement each other. So for me,
- 24:30Speaker 2: when I take part in International Women Month events and
- 24:34Speaker 2: I celebrate our queens, ourgolatories by empresses, for me, I'm
- 24:38Speaker 2: looking to reclaim our position. I'm looking to bring back
- 24:42Speaker 2: those African principles. I'm initiated into this kinetic system. But
- 24:47Speaker 2: I'm also a wooden practitioner and initiated into a temple
- 24:51Speaker 2: or more than one actually, but primarily one in the
- 24:54Speaker 2: Republic of ben In. So it's about reclaiming African philosophy,
- 25:00Speaker 2: can cosmology, African principles for liberty right.
- 25:05Speaker 3: And this is the part that I am grateful, thank
- 25:08Speaker 3: you so much for providing context and how we begin
- 25:12Speaker 3: to shape and share some of these different perspectives. Because
- 25:18Speaker 3: when we speak of International Women's Months, many persons tend
- 25:25Speaker 3: to take that ads that we're exclude, being very exclusive
- 25:29Speaker 3: and not including our children, our children that are male
- 25:34Speaker 3: and female, you know, our partners that that are that
- 25:37Speaker 3: are that are supportive of what we do and also
- 25:41Speaker 3: protective of giving us that red and depth of space
- 25:44Speaker 3: so that we can do this work and do this
- 25:46Speaker 3: work well right. And it's also not to be in
- 25:50Speaker 3: competition with our sisters. That's something else that we have
- 25:54Speaker 3: been marginalizing in some of our engagements, to the point
- 26:00Speaker 3: of that some sisters, you know, it becomes complexion, hair style, class,
- 26:07Speaker 3: how much money you think you have, realizing that you
- 26:10Speaker 3: might be rich, but you surely aren't wealth. So there's
- 26:13Speaker 3: a whole lot of other elements that come in that
- 26:16Speaker 3: you know where you from? You bond yeah, you bonasa,
- 26:20Speaker 3: are you from the not the salt? We're ever forgetting
- 26:23Speaker 3: that at the end of the day we peel a
- 26:25Speaker 3: lot of all of this that we're gonna still bleed
- 26:29Speaker 3: and we're gonna we need to navigate how to be
- 26:33Speaker 3: around one another principally with harmony and unity as we
- 26:40Speaker 3: as we have both shared around it in my eyes,
- 26:43Speaker 3: and that's something that we desire to speak to. And
- 26:46Speaker 3: so I want to thank you for just giving the
- 26:48Speaker 3: context and giving some breadth of space so persons recognize
- 26:52Speaker 3: that one of the things that tends to happen amongst
- 26:54Speaker 3: our sisterm is we allow distractions and distractions religion or
- 27:03Speaker 3: not religion and spirituality, class, how much money you have
- 27:09Speaker 3: or how much money you make, what kind of job
- 27:11Speaker 3: you have, and forget that it could be the sister
- 27:14Speaker 3: that is the housekeeper that makes only ten dollars and
- 27:18Speaker 3: ten dollars US an hour. But if she's principled and
- 27:21Speaker 3: grounded and engaged, that's the system that we're supposed to
- 27:25Speaker 3: make sure that we uplift and uphold what she's myself,
- 27:29Speaker 3: know thyself and see we considered, we start to say
- 27:32Speaker 3: her jesse tepping affairs. So when we're saying just sec
- 27:36Speaker 3: tepping affair, we're just saying in an ancestral African language
- 27:40Speaker 3: the matter nature, know yourself for the greatest and highest good.
- 27:45Speaker 3: When we say seneb jess sex tepping affair, we're simply saying,
- 27:50Speaker 3: heal yourself for the greatest and highest good. Those are
- 27:54Speaker 3: the things that are facilitated amongst womenists. Let me be
- 27:59Speaker 3: more specific of monks, ancestral Ancient African nubi and New Cushian,
- 28:06Speaker 3: new Chemicto heritage legacy women is. See, I want to
- 28:10Speaker 3: make sure I cover it like a little bit of everybody,
- 28:12Speaker 3: all right, because sometimes sometimes we may say we may
- 28:17Speaker 3: say Kevin, and then people immediately and definitely the other
- 28:21Speaker 3: side forbid if we just say Egypt, because people are
- 28:23Speaker 3: like whoa, And we have to explain to persons that
- 28:27Speaker 3: those terms are designed to turn us away from a
- 28:32Speaker 3: very ancestral sacred tradition, a very ancestral sacred tradition. Hence,
- 28:43Speaker 3: when we speak of our speaks, we're also incorporating that
- 28:47Speaker 3: element of those ancestral sacred traditions that facilitate all the
- 28:52Speaker 3: building blocks of society nation building that we're engaged in,
- 28:57Speaker 3: and not to say that we have it in perfection,
- 28:59Speaker 3: because if we have an imperfection, this will be a
- 29:01Speaker 3: much shorter podcast and we would already be we didn't
- 29:06Speaker 3: even need.
- 29:06Speaker 2: The podcast where we are. We need this walk.
- 29:16Speaker 3: Because of what we need to do, you know. So
- 29:20Speaker 3: I want to make sure that I give another special
- 29:23Speaker 3: shout out to some of the other divas that have
- 29:26Speaker 3: comeing to the platform as well and are just tuning in, listening,
- 29:30Speaker 3: engaging and offering their support, you know, Sister Queen Channette Johnson,
- 29:35Speaker 3: and of course we have our visionary like no other,
- 29:39Speaker 3: Sister Queen Angela Smith Tom and I'm always navigating because
- 29:44Speaker 3: there's some congratulatory messages we're going. We're going to get
- 29:47Speaker 3: to that because you've got like Earth Strong Birthday, Solar
- 29:51Speaker 3: Anniversary celebrations coming up next month. She's getting ready to
- 29:55Speaker 3: do like get another academic credential on the graduate level.
- 29:59Speaker 3: So I'll come to that and highlight that as well
- 30:03Speaker 3: as I like to send a shout out to Sister
- 30:04Speaker 3: Queen Patrice Grimble, thank you so much for tuning in
- 30:07Speaker 3: and joining us, as well as Sister Queen Chryl Northern Lagran,
- 30:12Speaker 3: and I highlight those that are again part of the
- 30:15Speaker 3: platform and the network that also share this information, because
- 30:18Speaker 3: these are things that some of these versations we don't
- 30:21Speaker 3: always get to have, and so we're doing what I
- 30:24Speaker 3: refer to as the public version. But I think you
- 30:29Speaker 3: can tell that we speak unapologetically, very clearly, and we
- 30:34Speaker 3: always do our best to make sure that truth, just
- 30:37Speaker 3: the sort of reciprocity, balanced, divine rightness and harmony are
- 30:41Speaker 3: at the center anchoring our exchanges. So with that being said,
- 30:49Speaker 3: so I'm like, so another part of our uplifting energy
- 30:55Speaker 3: during this time, and for those persons that may not
- 30:58Speaker 3: be as familiar, it's like a short piece here. You
- 31:02Speaker 3: can go to unwomen dot org. And when you go
- 31:07Speaker 3: to unwomen dot org, it's gonna have a host of
- 31:10Speaker 3: information of what's been going on around the globe with
- 31:13Speaker 3: women's activities, affairs and so forth. But I wanted to
- 31:15Speaker 3: speak to something specific. So this year twenty twenty five
- 31:21Speaker 3: is also where the global community is recognizing the thirtieth
- 31:26Speaker 3: anniversary of the fourth World Conference on Women, where there
- 31:32Speaker 3: was an actual adoption of the Beijing Declaration and Platform
- 31:37Speaker 3: for Action. Now let's keep this in mind. Thirty years
- 31:41Speaker 3: there's like a whole child for some of us, a goal,
- 31:46Speaker 3: and I think it's very important to know that this
- 31:48Speaker 3: is also also thirteeth anniversary since this fourth World Conference
- 31:53Speaker 3: on Women. This is the sixty ninth session of a
- 31:57Speaker 3: Commission on the Status of Women that is actually happening.
- 32:02Speaker 3: They're closing tomorrow. So they've been having various sessions meetings
- 32:08Speaker 3: as well as alliance gatherings of thousands of women as
- 32:13Speaker 3: well as men from around the globe from March tenth,
- 32:18Speaker 3: right after International Women Today on March eighth, and is
- 32:22Speaker 3: closing out tomorrow, March twenty first, in the United Nations
- 32:25Speaker 3: Headquarters in New York. And so I just want persons
- 32:29Speaker 3: to just be aware there's a lot of content that's
- 32:31Speaker 3: coming out of there. There's a lot of statements, a
- 32:34Speaker 3: lot of action programs, and I would like to say
- 32:37Speaker 3: not just projects that are short term, but actual institutionalized
- 32:43Speaker 3: programs that are in place to really address some of
- 32:47Speaker 3: the needs of our women and our girls around the globe.
- 32:53Speaker 3: And it's important that we make sure that those the
- 32:57Speaker 3: essence of what our needs are, value, use, our interests
- 33:02Speaker 3: are are always included in these spaces so it doesn't
- 33:06Speaker 3: become a solely feminist, very Eurasian type of agenda or
- 33:13Speaker 3: an outcome. And I say that clearly because many times
- 33:18Speaker 3: our voices as women of African ancestry are not always included,
- 33:24Speaker 3: and if they are there through a lens of what
- 33:27Speaker 3: is given permission for. And we don't come to ask
- 33:30Speaker 3: for permission Yama, don't ask permission to raise and virtue.
- 33:34Speaker 3: How that just add some context. So I just wanted
- 33:39Speaker 3: to give that as a coveyat because this is also
- 33:42Speaker 3: leading up to the other part of the conversation that
- 33:45Speaker 3: I'm hoping that we can have because while this is happening,
- 33:49Speaker 3: then we've been hearing about all of the permanent the
- 33:52Speaker 3: United Nations permanent form for people of African descent here
- 33:55Speaker 3: in the Caribbean. We've got the care Com doing a
- 33:59Speaker 3: host of activities around this time and actually getting into
- 34:02Speaker 3: like really survival mode with some of the new approaches
- 34:09Speaker 3: to governance that are coming out of the forty eight
- 34:12Speaker 3: contiguous US, specifically through the new executive administration. Right, and
- 34:16Speaker 3: I choose to give no name because that way they
- 34:19Speaker 3: can't accuse me of saying anything like Right, we just
- 34:23Speaker 3: focused on not the distraction, but how all to be
- 34:27Speaker 3: moving forward with the resolution that helps us to build,
- 34:30Speaker 3: us to ensure that our children, our families, our sisters,
- 34:35Speaker 3: our brothers, our communities thrive, not just survive, not just
- 34:40Speaker 3: beg for crumbs, but that not what is it, not
- 34:43Speaker 3: to be a crumb snatchah, but a crumb creator? How
- 34:47Speaker 3: about that? Right? So that that way we can actually
- 34:50Speaker 3: move into some other discussions. So I thought it was
- 34:52Speaker 3: very interesting. Also tomorrow, you know, while this is going
- 34:56Speaker 3: on in whoever you're in New York, that in at
- 35:01Speaker 3: the University of the West Indies there with support from
- 35:06Speaker 3: the Emancipation Support Committee of your yard, Trinidad and Tobago
- 35:11Speaker 3: along you know, in collaboration with the Ministry of Foreign
- 35:14Speaker 3: and Foreign and Caracom Affairs in Trinidad and Tobago, the
- 35:19Speaker 3: UI is going to be hosting the launch of the
- 35:22Speaker 3: United Nations Second International Decade for People of African descent.
- 35:26Speaker 3: So I want to just kind of drop that in
- 35:28Speaker 3: there so that we can speak to the what are
- 35:31Speaker 3: some of the other elements because their theme is confronting
- 35:36Speaker 3: oh she went offline, oh my, but confronting the legacies
- 35:40Speaker 3: of colonialism and enslavement delivering reparatory justice. And I think
- 35:46Speaker 3: it's important that persons just know that these are the
- 35:49Speaker 3: types of activities that are happening on a global space,
- 35:54Speaker 3: but they're also linked to what is happening that's a
- 35:57Speaker 3: specific concern in the Americas and in this case bringing
- 36:02Speaker 3: it into that global space of what's happening. Because there
- 36:06Speaker 3: was an international Decade for people of African descent from
- 36:09Speaker 3: January twenty to fifteen until December twenty twenty four, and
- 36:17Speaker 3: then in its infinite wisdom, the United Nations launched a
- 36:21Speaker 3: second international decade. Because most persons didn't really know that
- 36:25Speaker 3: there was an international decade for people of descent that
- 36:29Speaker 3: was highlighting recognition. The theme then was recognition, Justice and Development,
- 36:36Speaker 3: and most persons didn't even know that that was going
- 36:38Speaker 3: on from twenty fifteen until the end of last year.
- 36:42Speaker 3: So it's really important. And again this I want to highlight.
- 36:46Speaker 3: This is just not when we say African people, black people,
- 36:50Speaker 3: African American, you wan't call yourself Negro collaud if you
- 36:55Speaker 3: see yourself as BIPAC West Indian, I'll them turn Afro descent.
- 37:00Speaker 3: And then all of them terms we talk about persons
- 37:03Speaker 3: of African they use the term descent, and there's many
- 37:07Speaker 3: of us. Because we talk about words, right, we tend
- 37:09Speaker 3: to say assent or will speak of the ancestry. Follow
- 37:14Speaker 3: your bloodline. It's going to take you right to the
- 37:17Speaker 3: twelve million square miles of an African continent that has
- 37:20Speaker 3: been surviving and thriving for millennia a po millennia, Pomllennia, Pomllennia, Pomllennia, Pomllennia.
- 37:29Speaker 3: So while my sister's getting her signal back in order,
- 37:32Speaker 3: I just wanted to highlight that the second this launch
- 37:36Speaker 3: of the Second International Decade that's happening at the UWI
- 37:40Speaker 3: in Trinidad and Tobago with the support of the Emancipation
- 37:43Speaker 3: Support Committee of Trinidad and Tobago along with the Government
- 37:47Speaker 3: of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago, will have as
- 37:49Speaker 3: a speech you speak on doctor June Summer. She is
- 37:53Speaker 3: the chairperson of the United Nations Permanent Form for People
- 37:57Speaker 3: of African Descent with her original line lineage coming true,
- 38:01Speaker 3: Saint Lucient And it will also be this official launch
- 38:05Speaker 3: of the Decade by the Minister of Foreign and carlcom
- 38:08Speaker 3: Affairs of Trinidad and Tobago by none other than Senator
- 38:13Speaker 3: the Honorable doctor Amory Brown, and he will provide the
- 38:18Speaker 3: official launch. And then the guest speaker is his excellency
- 38:24Speaker 3: David Thomas Young, who serves as the Ambassador of Barbados
- 38:27Speaker 3: to the Caribbean community and chair of the Caribbean Pan
- 38:31Speaker 3: African Network, and he's hailing true Barbados of course. And
- 38:35Speaker 3: then another guest speak all that's being highlighted for this
- 38:39Speaker 3: event tomorrow is doctor Carrias Fergus, who is the chair
- 38:44Speaker 3: of the Dad and Tobago National Committee on Reperations. And
- 38:48Speaker 3: this is all happening tomorrow at three pm at Atlantic
- 38:52Speaker 3: Eastern Standard time or on the same time. Now only
- 38:56Speaker 3: in the forty eight contiguous is their change of time,
- 38:58Speaker 3: well at least for a while. And this is going
- 39:00Speaker 3: to be happening in the Dhaga Auditorium at the University
- 39:04Speaker 3: of the West Indies, as I mentioned. So, I think
- 39:08Speaker 3: that I wanted to just set that standard because you've
- 39:13Speaker 3: done a lot of work around reparations, around persons of
- 39:17Speaker 3: African assent being involved in knowing who they are. You've been,
- 39:22Speaker 3: you know, as a priestess, as a keeper of the
- 39:26Speaker 3: initia initiatory practices of making sure that we do not
- 39:31Speaker 3: disrespect our ancestors, that we do not disregard our legacy.
- 39:37Speaker 3: I would love for you to just share what are
- 39:39Speaker 3: some of the highlights that you would like to see
- 39:43Speaker 3: in terms of the actionable deliverables around these different pieces,
- 39:47Speaker 3: whether it's the UN Commission on Status of Women, the
- 39:51Speaker 3: UN Permanent Form for People of African descent CARA com CRC.
- 39:57Speaker 3: I mean you're a member of SAPAN, the Caribbean Pan
- 39:59Speaker 3: African net work as well. You know, how do we
- 40:01Speaker 3: as an African queen, mother warrior, what are some of
- 40:03Speaker 3: the highlights you'd like to see in terms of actionable deliverables?
- 40:08Speaker 2: Yes, well, thank you for giving a thorough rundown or summary.
- 40:13Speaker 2: Are some of the things that are happening as we
- 40:16Speaker 2: speak literally the things that are going on? So when
- 40:20Speaker 2: we always have this issue from my perspective, the disconnect
- 40:24Speaker 2: between I suppose what one might call the higher echelons,
- 40:28Speaker 2: these big global organizations like the UN like governments, and
- 40:34Speaker 2: the grass roots, how does this translate into real, tangible actions,
- 40:41Speaker 2: tangible transformative change for women on the ground, ordinary women,
- 40:50Speaker 2: the women in the market, the women taking the children
- 40:52Speaker 2: to school, not you know, not not the the sense
- 40:57Speaker 2: people who are what would I say, the kind of
- 41:01Speaker 2: world leader sort of status. And I think this is
- 41:04Speaker 2: one of the issues that we face. So it's really
- 41:06Speaker 2: interesting that we have all this thirtieth anniversary or forty
- 41:12Speaker 2: the thirtieth anniversary of the Declaration around women. I used
- 41:18Speaker 2: to run a lot of training around diversity and equity
- 41:21Speaker 2: in human rights, and one of the things I'd often
- 41:23Speaker 2: open with when I spoke about gender, when I spoke
- 41:26Speaker 2: about women specifically, was that in the UK in nineteen
- 41:32Speaker 2: seventy we had this thing called the Equal Pay Act,
- 41:34Speaker 2: And then I'd always turned to the people in the
- 41:36Speaker 2: room and say, well, do we have equal pay?
- 41:38Speaker 3: And it would be no.
- 41:39Speaker 2: So if we do the math, nineteen seventy is a
- 41:41Speaker 2: long time ago. That's definitely a whole human being, that's
- 41:45Speaker 2: a possible that's a mother and possibly a grandmother, and
- 41:48Speaker 2: yet equal pay doesn't exist. So I mentioned law, you know,
- 41:53Speaker 2: I find it FASc well, I found it fascinating. But
- 41:56Speaker 2: we could have all this legislation, all these principles, this
- 42:01Speaker 2: and that and this and that, but in reality, on
- 42:03Speaker 2: the ground, it wasn't It just was not translating, it
- 42:06Speaker 2: was not reaching the people on the ground. And again,
- 42:10Speaker 2: when we think about the First International depict I mean
- 42:13Speaker 2: justice development recognition, Where was the justice for women? Where
- 42:23Speaker 2: was the recognition for women? And what kind of development
- 42:26Speaker 2: was supposed to be put in place to ensure that women,
- 42:30Speaker 2: particularly those who are most vulnerable, particularly those most in need,
- 42:35Speaker 2: particularly those with the least economic stability. Where was that
- 42:42Speaker 2: justice coming from and for who and who was supposed
- 42:45Speaker 2: to give the justice. So the fact that, like you
- 42:47Speaker 2: quite rightly said, we had a whole ten years and
- 42:50Speaker 2: we have to start all over again, reverse to January
- 42:53Speaker 2: twenty twenty five for another ten years in the hope
- 42:57Speaker 2: that as Africans and particularly there will be some justice development,
- 43:03Speaker 2: there will be some recognition for us. Okay, so we're
- 43:05Speaker 2: giving it another go. I applause. The fact that the
- 43:11Speaker 2: SEPAN in particular and the Emancipation Support Committee are doing
- 43:18Speaker 2: this work. I would like to have had seen a
- 43:22Speaker 2: confidence happening around women that senter only women's voices. To
- 43:25Speaker 2: be honest, the fact we are in twenty twenty five
- 43:30Speaker 2: and that a conference for women, we still have so
- 43:33Speaker 2: many male voices. There's so much male space, or so
- 43:36Speaker 2: much space being taken up by men and there's nothing
- 43:41Speaker 2: wrong with the men being there. I mean, we should
- 43:43Speaker 2: every confidence on women unless we're talking about very sort
- 43:46Speaker 2: of like intimate things around and maybe women's bodies. In
- 43:50Speaker 2: every space, generally there should be men present, but men
- 43:53Speaker 2: should not be in my view, the voices. The voices
- 43:56Speaker 2: should be the women. The men should be there to listen,
- 44:00Speaker 2: to learn, and to go away and to take that
- 44:02Speaker 2: learning and to share that learning with other men, with
- 44:05Speaker 2: their sons and their brothers and their uncles and their fathers.
- 44:09Speaker 2: And so that to me kind of put it a
- 44:14Speaker 2: little bit of a dampner on things when I hear
- 44:16Speaker 2: how many men are actually going to be speaking at
- 44:18Speaker 2: this conference, if it's a conference on centering women, I
- 44:21Speaker 2: would like to hear women's voices, because we have our
- 44:24Speaker 2: whole of amazing women. I mean, we're dripping uzing with
- 44:29Speaker 2: powerful women all across our island, across the continent, across
- 44:34Speaker 2: the diaspora. So you're telling me you can't find a
- 44:38Speaker 2: whole set of women to talk about women on international
- 44:40Speaker 2: women's national women's events. So there's that. The other question
- 44:45Speaker 2: is when we have these events and they are in
- 44:52Speaker 2: these very academic spaces, or they're in these very politically
- 44:56Speaker 2: astute spaces. You know, the un in New York.
- 45:00Speaker 3: You know.
- 45:02Speaker 2: Who who's really at the table.
- 45:06Speaker 3: The people that get through the indcore registration process and
- 45:09Speaker 3: are vedded and have their ID Tagget got on to
- 45:12Speaker 3: them that can fly and afford that one thousand dollars.
- 45:16Speaker 3: Oh okay, should I know you aren't asking me forgive
- 45:20Speaker 3: me audience?
- 45:24Speaker 2: Exactly what African women from Tanzania or Benin or the
- 45:31Speaker 2: Gambia or as the average the woman living in they
- 45:37Speaker 2: called them a township now can get on an airplane
- 45:43Speaker 2: and even get a visa to get to America to
- 45:46Speaker 2: sit down and talk her truth and be centered and
- 45:50Speaker 2: have her voicehood. So we have the usual suspects those
- 45:55Speaker 2: women who have the privilege perhaps that you and I
- 45:58Speaker 2: who carry a passport of Colonizer, we got our little
- 46:02Speaker 2: eagle on our passports. Even though if you have a passport,
- 46:05Speaker 2: I mean, because you know, when you have a Caribbean
- 46:07Speaker 2: pass where you can't need a visa to go anywhere.
- 46:09Speaker 2: And that's another story now about you know what's going
- 46:12Speaker 2: on about these imposition of visas now that didn't exist before.
- 46:17Speaker 2: They have just been I mean Trinidad, we've just had
- 46:19Speaker 2: that put on us by England, which is our whole
- 46:22Speaker 2: story about the audacity of England to put visa restrictions
- 46:25Speaker 2: on us with a Trinidad passport. So if I put
- 46:27Speaker 2: out hih Trinidad pastor and try and go anywhere I
- 46:30Speaker 2: need a visa, do I have to put out the
- 46:32Speaker 2: other passport with an eagle to be able to move
- 46:35Speaker 2: around or the Babylon winds of people those kind of
- 46:40Speaker 2: passports the travel So again, yes, you know, the lip
- 46:45Speaker 2: service that the language is sounds wonderful. You know, we've
- 46:47Speaker 2: got all these things happening in these big, you know,
- 46:50Speaker 2: institutions centering women. But how is that going to trickle down?
- 46:54Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 46:54Speaker 2: I actually don't even like that. Trickle down to mean
- 46:56Speaker 2: trickle down is a very derogatory way of putting it.
- 46:59Speaker 2: How is it going to engage and center the voices
- 47:05Speaker 2: of the women who really need the protections that they're
- 47:09Speaker 2: talking about, who need the opportunities, who need that justice,
- 47:12Speaker 2: who need that and repognition and that development. If we
- 47:15Speaker 2: want to bring it all together, that's the issue. So
- 47:18Speaker 2: in terms of solutions, we've got to change the whole approach.
- 47:23Speaker 2: This is not the way to bring about systemic change.
- 47:28Speaker 2: The systemic change has to happen on the ground. The
- 47:32Speaker 2: people on the on the ground, who are actually living
- 47:34Speaker 2: with the live reality of these things, they need to
- 47:37Speaker 2: be the one to direct the conversation or the versation
- 47:41Speaker 2: or the iversation, because the conversation is the corn, isn't it.
- 47:47Speaker 2: That's where then that's where the deception is. So that's
- 47:50Speaker 2: where we hear the words, and we see people standing
- 47:53Speaker 2: there taking photographs and making pledges, and then they go
- 47:57Speaker 2: away and they go back to their homes and their
- 48:00Speaker 2: comfortable jobs, with their money and their cars and all
- 48:02Speaker 2: the other things, and then the sisters on the cold
- 48:06Speaker 2: face continue the liberty right, and we've got to change
- 48:11Speaker 2: our approach. We've got to think about who's being centered. Why,
- 48:15Speaker 2: I mean, why are they being centered? What's the context?
- 48:18Speaker 2: What did they bring to the table where these things
- 48:21Speaker 2: are happening, what spaces and who gets entry? As we said,
- 48:24Speaker 2: who can actually get into these spaces? Okay, so yes,
- 48:30Speaker 2: I do applause Seapan, and I do applaud the Emancipation
- 48:34Speaker 2: Support Committee because they work hard. But there's a lot
- 48:38Speaker 2: of work to be done, and the leadership is still
- 48:41Speaker 2: too top heavy with men and particularly when it comes
- 48:46Speaker 2: to women at a time when men just need to
- 48:47Speaker 2: sit down and just listen.
- 48:50Speaker 3: And I think that that's where some persons are guiding
- 48:55Speaker 3: the activities around, for example, what the United Nations Permanent
- 49:00Speaker 3: Form for the People of African Descent is doing. While
- 49:04Speaker 3: there are many women that are in the body, many
- 49:08Speaker 3: of the experts present us that are contributing to that
- 49:16Speaker 3: are men. And not to say that there aren't any women,
- 49:19Speaker 3: but like you said, we just need to navigate how
- 49:22Speaker 3: to put that through, especially during the month that's honoring
- 49:26Speaker 3: international women.
- 49:28Speaker 2: If ever, it should be happening right right and give us.
- 49:34Speaker 3: Right And I think that that's part of it. Okay,
- 49:37Speaker 3: I lost, you take your time. It's okay. We're going
- 49:39Speaker 3: to make it work. That's why we don't touch things.
- 49:42Speaker 2: I'm I'm having such technical problems today.
- 49:46Speaker 3: It's okay. But the is that it almost looks like
- 49:49Speaker 3: it's a creative intentionality because our sister, Queen Visionary Angela,
- 49:54Speaker 3: she has these beautiful circles. It's like we're sitting on
- 49:57Speaker 3: a couch. You look like you're the plan. I mean,
- 50:00Speaker 3: we're doing fine, we're getting to you know, we're in
- 50:04Speaker 3: our last segment, so it's just a joy and a privilege.
- 50:07Speaker 2: Or make it work.
- 50:08Speaker 3: We'll make it. We make it work. We'll make it work.
- 50:10Speaker 3: And I think, no, go ahead, sister.
- 50:13Speaker 2: I mean, this is the other thing, you know, I
- 50:15Speaker 2: always hear this language. I don't know. I'm pretty certain
- 50:18Speaker 2: you've got it over there. But here, you know, in
- 50:21Speaker 2: Europe and in England, lived experience, lived experience, lived experience
- 50:25Speaker 2: is key. It's like a mantra. And so I say
- 50:29Speaker 2: to myself when I hear a situations like this, how
- 50:33Speaker 2: how is it? When are we're talking about women? Men
- 50:38Speaker 2: are sentered so much. What lived experience do men have
- 50:42Speaker 2: of being a woman? I don't really think they have any,
- 50:45Speaker 2: just like we have. We don't have lived experience of
- 50:48Speaker 2: being men. We overstand and understand some of the challenges
- 50:54Speaker 2: we see our brothers, our fathers, our sons, our uncles,
- 50:57Speaker 2: you know, faced facing, and hopefully they that for us.
- 51:00Speaker 2: I mean, we know that there are many that do.
- 51:02Speaker 2: But lives experience we really have to. I really want
- 51:06Speaker 2: to see a change whereby we center the voices of
- 51:09Speaker 2: those were affected. I really want this lived experience to
- 51:12Speaker 2: be real, to be to be key, you know, I
- 51:15Speaker 2: just you know, in the philanthropic sector where I've worked
- 51:20Speaker 2: putting on another hat. One of the things that I've
- 51:22Speaker 2: always said is that when money is put aside and
- 51:27Speaker 2: they determine that there's going to be this program, and
- 51:30Speaker 2: somebody jumps up and says, yes, violence against women and
- 51:32Speaker 2: girls in Southern Africa, but they've not actually gone on
- 51:37Speaker 2: the ground spoken to those women and girls in that
- 51:39Speaker 2: region to ask them, is that really what you want?
- 51:42Speaker 2: Perhaps actually, perhaps they don't. The parts of women and
- 51:45Speaker 2: the girls don't want that. Perhaps they have their own
- 51:48Speaker 2: traditional methods of dealing with these situations and actually they
- 51:51Speaker 2: want to do something entirely different. They want to start businesses,
- 51:55Speaker 2: or they want to run music and arts projects. You
- 51:59Speaker 2: see what we we we we make assumptions about people.
- 52:04Speaker 2: You know, the old same isn't about when you make
- 52:06Speaker 2: an assumption, you make an ass out.
- 52:08Speaker 3: To you you're absolutely correct, You're absolutely correct, And some
- 52:15Speaker 3: people may not want to hear that part, but they
- 52:17Speaker 3: need to just keep that part of their space. So
- 52:20Speaker 3: as we get ready to close it, that time goes quickly.
- 52:24Speaker 3: Does that and this and that you know we're doing
- 52:28Speaker 3: again because this is ours speaks building a new legacy
- 52:31Speaker 3: and speaking of things interdisciplinarily and pushing it, pushing the
- 52:36Speaker 3: envelope towards that global space. I just wanted to.
- 52:44Speaker 2: Is our set or set many names, and you know
- 52:51Speaker 2: her virtues are wisdom and intuition, unconditional love. And this
- 52:56Speaker 2: is what the work that you, my queen, and are
- 53:01Speaker 2: bringing to this work, this is what we want. We
- 53:04Speaker 2: want more wisdom and intuition, which is a very female
- 53:08Speaker 2: or seen as very female, attributes unconditional love, the unconditional
- 53:12Speaker 2: love we have for our community, for all of our Africans.
- 53:16Speaker 2: And if we really embody these principles, if we embody
- 53:19Speaker 2: the principles of ma Hearts, you know, we would actually
- 53:22Speaker 2: if we went back and fetched it, sankofa and brought
- 53:25Speaker 2: it forward, we would find ourselves in a far more
- 53:29Speaker 2: equitable position when it comes to these things. These things
- 53:32Speaker 2: wouldn't be going on the way they're going on.
- 53:34Speaker 3: A tour right right right. And I think that I
- 53:39Speaker 3: offer please share with our listeners and viewers how they
- 53:44Speaker 3: can link with you to be able to, you know,
- 53:46Speaker 3: experience some of the work that you do as well,
- 53:49Speaker 3: where they can support your poetic publications and presentations as
- 53:54Speaker 3: well as your your Saturday broadcast where you guys some
- 54:01Speaker 3: of the most serious musical DJ selections. I'm like, i'd
- 54:07Speaker 3: be like Selector, I'd be screaming in my own space.
- 54:11Speaker 2: But I love music because, like Bob said, when it
- 54:14Speaker 2: hits you feel no pain.
- 54:16Speaker 3: That's right.
- 54:16Speaker 2: There are a musical people we must remember. Our core
- 54:19Speaker 2: is our spirituality, our music, you know, and and for
- 54:25Speaker 2: us as people, we need to hold on to those things.
- 54:27Speaker 2: We need joy, We need to have joy and music
- 54:31Speaker 2: brings joy. So I do a radio show on a Saturday,
- 54:34Speaker 2: Paul Speak Your Truth, and it broadcasts on a community
- 54:38Speaker 2: station based in South London called Autharity, which is a
- 54:42Speaker 2: eurobot world. It kind of means like you know, and
- 54:47Speaker 2: you can catch it online and Severity Radio dot.
- 54:52Speaker 3: Com I believe that's right dot com exactly.
- 54:57Speaker 2: And a show which is a much more. It's not
- 55:00Speaker 2: a feriite radio. It's specifically for African people. It's the
- 55:05Speaker 2: My strap line is engaging conversation, eclectic music and a
- 55:11Speaker 2: Pan African perspective. I am the Eclectic Goddess. That's my
- 55:13Speaker 2: DJ name and my present a name, and it's specifically
- 55:17Speaker 2: created for our people to tell our truth and I
- 55:20Speaker 2: try to feature Africans across the globe and it's about
- 55:25Speaker 2: who they are. It's not an interview, it's a versation
- 55:30Speaker 2: or aversation ancuation. It's it's it's you know, it's a chat.
- 55:36Speaker 2: It's are coming together, the sharing knowledge of self. And Yeah,
- 55:41Speaker 2: I love to have people come forward and say I
- 55:43Speaker 2: want to be on your show. I love it when
- 55:44Speaker 2: people say that, so please hit me up because I
- 55:47Speaker 2: want to hear that. I want to send to the voices.
- 55:49Speaker 2: I created this for our community. I also the radio
- 55:52Speaker 2: show on a Friday, which is a much more magazine format.
- 55:55Speaker 2: It's not for any particular group of people. I present
- 55:58Speaker 2: with a couple of like white Sometimes I have co
- 56:01Speaker 2: presenters who are African women. We have all sorts of guests.
- 56:04Speaker 2: That's a very different format, but I enjoyed doing that
- 56:07Speaker 2: as well because it's much more based. It's a very
- 56:09Speaker 2: localized thing in my in my area. And I DJ.
- 56:12Speaker 2: I did an afrobeat set last Friday at a place
- 56:17Speaker 2: called Ritzy upstairs at the Ritzy in Brixton, South London. Yeah,
- 56:24Speaker 2: in June doing a reggae set. So I love my music.
- 56:28Speaker 2: I live for music, I live for the arts. I
- 56:32Speaker 2: was part I'm part of a film collective with a
- 56:35Speaker 2: group of women. We're a mixed group of women. We
- 56:37Speaker 2: held one of our events we kind of rebirthing rejuvenating it.
- 56:42Speaker 2: It's half a good like twelve years ago. And we
- 56:46Speaker 2: were just talking earlier when we had a film event
- 56:48Speaker 2: this evening, really excellent film event about regeneration and gentrification
- 56:54Speaker 2: socio ethnic cleansing in the UK. But we also looked
- 56:57Speaker 2: at it within the context of the global space and
- 57:00Speaker 2: we mentioned the one wonderful Claudia Jones who was also
- 57:03Speaker 2: born in Belmonte.
- 57:05Speaker 3: Big like me, that's right there, we go always.
- 57:09Speaker 2: Claudia Jones said, a people's art is the genesis of
- 57:12Speaker 2: their freedom.
- 57:14Speaker 3: Please repeat that.
- 57:16Speaker 2: A people's art is the genesis of their freedom.
- 57:20Speaker 3: M A people's art is the genesis of their freedom.
- 57:25Speaker 3: From the honorable ancestress Claudia Jones. That's powerful. If you
- 57:30Speaker 3: don't know who Claudia Jones is, that'll be content for
- 57:32Speaker 3: the next podcast because about her and read some of
- 57:37Speaker 3: her pieces and we would all be edified to another level.
- 57:41Speaker 3: I also want to send out another shout out to
- 57:44Speaker 3: Sister Queen Chinee Chan Saffron for joining us, as well
- 57:50Speaker 3: as Trevena Harris Trevida. If I say your name with
- 57:54Speaker 3: a Spanish accent. It's just because it looks like it
- 57:57Speaker 3: just rolls off my tongue like that. But so much
- 57:59Speaker 3: great and appreciation and blessings for you to taking some
- 58:02Speaker 3: time to join us so as we get ready to close,
- 58:05Speaker 3: because it's like at the top of the hour, we're done.
- 58:07Speaker 3: It's like, well it finished that ready, But I would
- 58:09Speaker 3: love for you to share your last word before I
- 58:12Speaker 3: just do some of the closings for us. So what
- 58:15Speaker 3: would be your closing word for tonight?
- 58:20Speaker 2: Embrace womanism. We are not feminists, we're womenist. We don't
- 58:24Speaker 2: have to follow, We don't have to follow ourselves all
- 58:26Speaker 2: the time. You know, we can actually be ourselves, be creative,
- 58:31Speaker 2: be innovative, remember who we are, go back and refect
- 58:36Speaker 2: that and bring forward the greatness that we have, the
- 58:40Speaker 2: history that we have, and bring it into the century
- 58:43Speaker 2: that we're in, into the times that we're in, so
- 58:45Speaker 2: that we can really transform ourselves. We have to work
- 58:49Speaker 2: on ourselves, put ourselves first. It begins with us.
- 58:54Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so grateful, Thank you so much, illustrious, powerful revolutionary,
- 59:00Speaker 3: most right honorable African queen mother warrior Bassum I sist
- 59:06Speaker 3: I'm very grateful to have you with us this evening,
- 59:08Speaker 3: and it's a complimentary piece to my closing comment, which
- 59:12Speaker 3: is about highlighting one of our other African Queen Mother
- 59:15Speaker 3: Warrior sisters who opened up something. And I want to
- 59:19Speaker 3: share this particular quote in terms of what you've just
- 59:23Speaker 3: said and what we've been saying through the evening, and
- 59:25Speaker 3: I quote, holding in your truth doesn't make it disappear,
- 59:31Speaker 3: It only makes it heavier to carry, speak, release, and
- 59:37Speaker 3: reclaim your piece unquote, and that is none other than
- 59:41Speaker 3: African Queen Mother Warrior Cis Doctor. And you can find
- 59:45Speaker 3: out more about her. Hell, you can find out more
- 59:49Speaker 3: about the I'm power meant rights of passage for Black
- 59:54Speaker 3: African heritage women, and she opened up today on the
- 59:58Speaker 3: vernal equinox right the opening of Spring episode one entitled
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: a New Day, a New Way without Apology. The journey
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: starts here a space for black, brown and mixed heritage
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: women to reclaim, reconnect and rise. And you can again
- 1:00:17Speaker 3: get and get on board because you can go to
- 1:00:20Speaker 3: sis dr Cis Doctor dot com and get all the information,
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: join an event right to show that support for these
- 1:00:30Speaker 3: types of works that I speaks building a new legacy
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: always promotes. With that being said, remember culture heals humanity,
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: land is our foundation, and spiritual harmony unifies us. Be
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- 1:00:57Speaker 3: as power through the nciples of My truth, just disorder, reciprocity, balance,
- 1:01:04Speaker 3: divine righteousness, and harmony unapologetically in full form. Give thanks,
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: Dor and we look forward to having you join us
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: in the very near future. Again, I give my my
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: crown to her, A want her, and I give thanks
- 1:01:22Speaker 3: for all that are able to appreciate this. If you
- 1:01:25Speaker 3: have other questions, please email me at ost Speaks A S. T.
- 1:01:30Speaker 3: S p E A K. S ost Speaks at gmail
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- 1:01:38Speaker 3: platform of your choice, Facebook, everywhere I try and we
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: do our best friend, give thanks and lady blessings and
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to our next time. And again, thank you,
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: Virginary engineer like no other. Sister Queen Angela O the
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: Crew podcast, the formula. It's all bringing these things together
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: and bringing all of us good. Thanks, good night, blessings, blessings.
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: Mm hmmmmmm mm hmmm mmm hmm hmm