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Chuck & Buck 6-25 Hour 3: Brad Evans, One Series with Evan Giddings and · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: We're going to dive into all of the things that
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Speaker 1: we're curious about with our next guest, former Sounders legend,
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Speaker 1: well current Sounders legend, former Sounders player, and also a
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Speaker 1: huge part of our World Cup coverage here at Sports
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Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three k a r FM and
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Speaker 1: the iHeart stations. It is Brad Evans, who's joining us
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Speaker 1: again here on Chuck and Buck. Good morning, sir, Good
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Speaker 1: morning everyone. Are you having the time of your life
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Speaker 1: with a World Cup?
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Speaker 2: I you know, I told my girlfriend Jamie that this
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Speaker 2: is just my If I could just do this, I
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Speaker 2: honestly think I could do this every day for the
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Speaker 2: rest of my life. There's six games on yesterday and
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Speaker 2: I'm flipping back and forth. You know, we have a
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Speaker 2: seven month old and I forgot about her. This has
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Speaker 2: just been it's just been too much.
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Speaker 1: Man, You are really into some World Cup if you
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Speaker 1: forgot about your seven month old? But have you remembered
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Speaker 1: her name? Did you tie a string around your finger
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Speaker 1: or anything like that?
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Speaker 3: Did I did? You know?
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Speaker 2: I was thinking my favorite player in the tournament. I
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Speaker 2: might just start calling her that too. It's TVD on
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Speaker 2: who that is just yet. But there's some youngsters out
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Speaker 2: there that are lightening it up right now.
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Speaker 3: It's been really fun to.
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Speaker 1: Watch, Oh, Freeman Evans, I can see it already, Freeman Evans, Well,
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Speaker 1: great to have you with us here again today. And
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Speaker 1: so I'm sure you overheard in your intro. I mean,
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Speaker 1: there's nothing that the US can gain from this in
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Speaker 1: the group stage. There's nothing that Turkey can gain from
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Speaker 1: this to get beyond the group stage. And yet it's
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Speaker 1: a World Cup match, so it can't be meaningless.
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Speaker 4: Right Brad.
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Speaker 1: I mean there's no way that you could describe a
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Speaker 1: World Cup, any World Cup match as a meaningless affair, right.
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Speaker 3: No, that's right.
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Speaker 2: And you know this expanded tournament. We talked about it
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Speaker 2: before thirty two to forty eight teams in a different iteration.
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Speaker 2: In the thirty two this game would mean a ton
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Speaker 2: You really want to finish first in your group, and
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Speaker 2: to do that you pretty much have to win tonight.
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Speaker 3: And now that.
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Speaker 2: There's these third place teams, it puts a wrinkle in
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Speaker 2: this last game a little bit. And for the US,
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Speaker 2: I think they hopefully learned some lessons from Mexico last night.
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Speaker 2: Mexico had pretty much won their group, but they also
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Speaker 2: wanted to go out of the group stage with a
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Speaker 2: lot of momentum and make their fans happy and give
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Speaker 2: them something to celebrate about, and also for players to
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Speaker 2: fight for a starting spot. Mexico made six or seven
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Speaker 2: changes last night because they were in the same exact
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Speaker 2: situation as the US and the first half was not good.
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Speaker 3: We called it on.
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Speaker 2: Radio last night in the studio there, and they were
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Speaker 2: just missing that continuity. You bring in a bunch of
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Speaker 2: new players and the system stays the same. But the
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Speaker 2: tough part is is most of those guys hadn't played
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Speaker 2: together before in a competitive game.
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Speaker 3: So in the second half they turned it on.
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Speaker 2: They ended up winning three to nothing against Chechia and
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Speaker 2: they left their fans happy, and that's the momentum you
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Speaker 2: want going into the next game. You want to know
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Speaker 2: that you can score goals. They also didn't allow a
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Speaker 2: single goal Mexico in the first three games, and the
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Speaker 2: US will be looking to do that tonight. Keep a
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Speaker 2: clean sheet, score some goals, keep the fans happy, keep
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Speaker 2: the US engaged in this tournament. That's the biggest thing
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Speaker 2: is we want people to be excited about this group.
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Speaker 2: We want to hear it on radio, TV, podcast, whatever,
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Speaker 2: it is anything to put a spotlight on this US
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Speaker 2: men's national team.
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Speaker 3: That will be the mo tonight.
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Speaker 1: Well, you've got a few guys with yellow cards, and
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Speaker 1: so that's a factor here in determining who should play
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Speaker 1: who shouldn't play.
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Speaker 4: And you have the star of.
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Speaker 1: The team who's coming off of an injury. So in
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Speaker 1: Brad Evans' estimation, who should play who shouldn't play in
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Speaker 1: this match tonight for the US.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you hold out Christian Polistic. You can't
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Speaker 2: win this tournament. Look, it'll be difficult for this team
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Speaker 2: to win this tournament, but you can't make a deep
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Speaker 2: run or even think about winning this tournament without him.
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Speaker 2: I think that's the reality, and you want him as
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Speaker 2: healthy as possible. If the US was fighting for a
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Speaker 2: spot the next round, you start him and the guys
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Speaker 2: with the yellow card because they are gonna get you
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Speaker 2: farther in this tournament. That's why they're starters. But you
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Speaker 2: got four guys on yellow cards. They'll miss this next game.
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Speaker 2: Pochatinos already said that he's gonna keep them out, so
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Speaker 2: you're gonna see a lot of changes for the US tonight.
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Speaker 2: It would have been a great chance for Christian Rodan,
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Speaker 2: you know, the local kid uh Seattle sounder U dub
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Speaker 2: product to get a game. But I think he picked
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Speaker 2: up a muscle injury. I don't think he'll feature tonight.
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Speaker 2: You're gonna see a lot of changes, but still it's
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Speaker 2: an opportunity for you to get a World Cup game.
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Speaker 2: If I was in that situation, it'd be the same thing.
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Speaker 2: Look in my Under twenty World Cup, I didn't start
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Speaker 2: the first game.
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Speaker 3: I came on as a sub in the second one.
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Speaker 2: We had already advanced in the tournament with those a
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Speaker 2: win and a tie.
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Speaker 3: So Ziggi Schmidt made a bunch of changes.
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Speaker 2: We all started against Egypt, and we put in a
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Speaker 2: great performance beating Egypt. And that's what you want. You
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Speaker 2: want your subs to come in, keep the level high.
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Speaker 2: You go into training the next week, and then you
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Speaker 2: play your knockout round and hopefully get a result. So
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Speaker 2: he'll make some changes tonight. It'll be a mixed group,
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Speaker 2: but still you're playing at home in Los Angeles. That
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Speaker 2: stadium is going to be packed, and the opportunity. I
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Speaker 2: just keep thinking. If they win the next game, they
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Speaker 2: will play here in Seattle. On July sixth, in the
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Speaker 2: round of sixteen, I still have some work to do.
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Speaker 2: They got to win that round of thirty two game
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Speaker 2: as they advance.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, another thing that I would worry about, And maybe
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Speaker 1: you would say you're a worry ward. That's nothing to
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Speaker 1: worry about. Soccer players have more class than that. But
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Speaker 1: if I was playing Polisic against a team that this
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Speaker 1: is their World Cup final, I mean they don't have
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Speaker 1: anything beyond tonight. So to beat the US and a
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Speaker 1: US hosted match, I mean they're going to go all out,
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Speaker 1: I would think, and finish this thing with a good
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Speaker 1: taste in their mouth, and there would be nothing better
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Speaker 1: than beating the US. I'd be a little worried about
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Speaker 1: exposing Polisic to a bunch of Rudy Rudiger's who are like,
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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I'm going to tack everything that's in
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Speaker 1: my space because I got nothing to lose here tonight.
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Speaker 4: Is that is that fair or unfair?
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Speaker 3: You're you're you're a spot on.
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Speaker 2: You save him, You put him in some bubble wrap,
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Speaker 2: put him on the bench, let him watch celebrate when
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Speaker 2: the guys score.
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Speaker 3: UH with the Sounders.
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Speaker 2: A couple of years ago, Sporting Kansas City had the
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Speaker 2: worst start to an MLS season, they lost eleven in
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Speaker 2: a row, didn't have a win in eleven games, losses
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Speaker 2: and ties.
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Speaker 3: And then they came here to Seattle.
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Speaker 2: And when you're playing in Seattle, we always had the
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Speaker 2: best of every team, no matter what position they were
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Speaker 2: in the stands, because they know when they come here,
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Speaker 2: we've used it as a fortress. They want to be uh,
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Speaker 2: spoilers to a party. And what happened. They came in
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Speaker 2: and they got their first win of the season against
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Speaker 2: a really good Sounders team a few years ago. That
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Speaker 2: could happen. That's that's Turkey's mindset right now. I'm going
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Speaker 2: to spoil the party, put a dampener on it. There
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Speaker 2: is some soccer history between Turkey and and and the
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Speaker 2: United States. They've gotten results against them. It's always a
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Speaker 2: battle between those two teams. Which interesting. I thought that Turkey,
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Speaker 2: Czech Bosnia, Croatio, we're going to be better in this tournament,
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Speaker 2: kind of those Eastern Ish European teams that have historically
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Speaker 2: been really good, but they've all been really poor this tournament.
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Speaker 2: And so it still is an underperforming Turkey team that
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Speaker 2: will provide some challenges. But I still think even with
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Speaker 2: the us making some changes that they'll go out and
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Speaker 2: putting a good performance and beat them. And on the
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Speaker 2: flip side, like you said, Turkey might make some changes too,
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Speaker 2: get some youngsters some World Cup experience that may not
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Speaker 2: have gotten in in the first two games because they're
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Speaker 2: already thinking how do we get to the next World Cup. Well,
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Speaker 2: we've got to get these guys experience in big games too,
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Speaker 2: so they'll probably make some changes as well, Brad Evans.
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Speaker 1: Is what it's providing is expertise to our World Cup coverage,
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Speaker 1: not just here on Chuck and Buck in the mornings
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Speaker 1: once per week, but obviously part a huge part of
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Speaker 1: our World Cup coverage here at KJAR as well. So
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Speaker 1: are you looking ahead? I mean, give us the future here.
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Speaker 1: I mean I'm hearing that they think it's going to
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Speaker 1: be Bosnia versus the US next Wednesday. How sure of
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Speaker 1: a thing is that?
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Speaker 3: That's ninety nine percent? Wow, according to computers.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So you know it goes down to head to head,
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Speaker 2: how many points they've gotten in their group, how many
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Speaker 2: goals they've scored for, how many they've taken against.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of different factors. I think there's six
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Speaker 3: different factors.
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Speaker 2: That they kind of run down the list, so they
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Speaker 2: pretty much know that it'll be Bosnia. But you know,
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Speaker 2: soccer's crazy. I didn't expect Canada the other night to
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Speaker 2: beat Qatar, you know, six seven, nothing, whatever it was
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Speaker 2: as Qatar picks up two red cards in the game,
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Speaker 2: so it something could happen at the last second, but
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Speaker 2: most likely it will be Bosnia. And they played yesterday
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Speaker 2: and they beat Guitar three to one here in Seattle
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Speaker 2: in a packed crowd at Seattle Stadium.
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Speaker 3: So they're going to provide challenges.
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Speaker 2: They're big, they're strong, they'll play for set pieces. They've
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Speaker 2: got some players that have played in top leagues in Europe,
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Speaker 2: and they'll be thinking that they're the underdog, just like
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Speaker 2: Turkey tonight.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the entire tournament at large here,
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Speaker 1: not just the US for the remainder of our conversation.
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Speaker 1: You told us a couple of weeks ago, Man, the
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Speaker 1: stars are going to be on display, and man have
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Speaker 1: they been on display. It feels like every top player
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Speaker 1: is getting two goals a match at this stage. So
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Speaker 1: who is leading the project name change for your daughter
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Speaker 1: right now? Who is the player of the tournament so far?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, you had mess.
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Speaker 4: Evans wouldn't sound that great.
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Speaker 3: I just want you to know I don't like it.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I mean two days ago you had Messi in the
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Speaker 2: first game score two goals. Then you had France with
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Speaker 2: Umbape score two goals, and then Early Holland who plays
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Speaker 2: at Manchester City for Norway, score two goals. It's like
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Speaker 2: they're all watching each other trying to outdo each other.
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Speaker 2: And then the next day it's Cristiano Ronaldo with a
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Speaker 2: couple of goals. So everyone's in the mix right now
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Speaker 2: in terms of the biggest players. They're showing up, which
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Speaker 2: is the most important thing, and you want to see
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Speaker 2: that in a World Cup. I'm thrilled when there's a
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Speaker 2: youngster on the stage. And for Mexico last night they
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Speaker 2: have a young midfielder named Mora who's seventeen years old
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Speaker 2: that started the game. He plays at Club Tijuana down
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Speaker 2: in Mexico, and when you see him, he's just now
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Speaker 2: hitting puberty. He's got the pimply face and he's naive.
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Speaker 2: He's about one hundred and thirty five pounds, soaking wet,
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Speaker 2: but he is silky smooth. He pretty much started both
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Speaker 2: goals for Mexico's first two last night.
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Speaker 3: He's one to watch.
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Speaker 2: And then you look at La Mina Mal for Spain,
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Speaker 2: another kid who's eighteen years old and just burst on
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Speaker 2: the scene with Barcelona.
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Speaker 3: He's been incredible.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you compare Lamina Mal and Messi at
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Speaker 2: this point in their career for Barcelona, Messi had one
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Speaker 2: goal in eight starts. La Minu Mal's eighteen at the
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Speaker 2: same time already has one hundred and thirty games for
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Speaker 2: Barcelona and seventy goal contributions, which divides up.
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Speaker 3: Goals and assists.
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Speaker 4: Oh, he is.
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Speaker 2: Well above heads and tails where Messi's was at at
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Speaker 2: his age. These are two really really exciting players, both
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Speaker 2: left footed, and they provide something to the game. I
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Speaker 2: love the naivity of coming into a World Cup and
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Speaker 2: just saying I'm here, I'm gonna play my game. I
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Speaker 2: don't care if there's a you know, thirty five year
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Speaker 2: old veteran on the field that demands the ball. I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna play my game. I'm going to do the work.
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Speaker 2: And they've done that and they've showed it. They've been fantastic.
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Speaker 1: Brad Evans with us here on Chuck and Buck in
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Speaker 1: the morning, give me the power that you think should
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Speaker 1: be a little worried about the way that they're playing
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Speaker 1: right now. I mean, there's about ten twelve teams that
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Speaker 1: are considered global powers in this tournament, But give me
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Speaker 1: the one that feels like to you is gonna end
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Speaker 1: up in bitter disappointment out of all of this.
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Speaker 3: Now, for me, it's it's Portugal.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you have Christiano Ronaldo, who is, you know,
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Speaker 2: arguably one of the best players between him and Messi,
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Speaker 2: and he really wants to play as the number nine.
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Speaker 2: And yes, he scored two goals the other night, but
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Speaker 2: I think for me, Portugal has been a bit underwhelming.
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Speaker 3: It's a team that.
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Speaker 2: Seems to only want to play for Ronaldo, and that's
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Speaker 2: not necessarily a bad thing, but if if he's not
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Speaker 2: going to score two or three goals a game, then
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Speaker 2: they're going to be in They're going to be in trouble.
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Speaker 3: I think.
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Speaker 2: I think Spain showed what they can do, Germany has
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Speaker 2: shown what they can do, France has been unbelievable. You
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Speaker 2: run down the list, I mean, Argentina's been great, but
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Speaker 2: the one that I watch has been Portugal. I'm just
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Speaker 2: not sure that they have it top to bottom to
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Speaker 2: make a deep, deep run as they probably should or
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Speaker 2: they think they should in the tournament.
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Speaker 1: You know, Mara Evans does have a nice ring to it.
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Speaker 1: By the way, it's not bad. It's not bad at all.
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Speaker 3: Bad. Yeah, if you in that way?
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Speaker 1: How does the How does girlfriend Jamie feel about you
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Speaker 1: just watching six matches of soccer every single night, even
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Speaker 1: though it is the World Cup and even though she
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Speaker 1: knows what she got into when she started dating you
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Speaker 1: in the.
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Speaker 3: First place, she's she's been into it.
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Speaker 2: I've been like thoroughly impressed by her willingness to sit
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Speaker 2: down and watch. She's never watched this much soccer in
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Speaker 2: her life put together, So this has been This has
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Speaker 2: been cool. And you know, to be able to talk
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Speaker 2: about the game too and explain it the way that
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Speaker 2: I may have played it or see it. I think
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Speaker 2: that that really helps someone actually understand what they're watching.
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Speaker 2: And that's that's the thing I love about Radio two
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Speaker 2: is being able to provide that context. Sometimes you just
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Speaker 2: need someone to do it.
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Speaker 3: You know, we did it.
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Speaker 2: She owns a gym here in Kirkland and so we
13:45
Speaker 2: did a soccer a World Cup one oh one before
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Speaker 2: the tournament there was like twenty people in the room,
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Speaker 2: and everyone afterwards was just thank you.
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Speaker 3: I had no idea.
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Speaker 2: There are some little nuances to the sport that you
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Speaker 2: kind of have to know if you're gonna sit down
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Speaker 2: and try to enjoy a World Cup.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, are you fired up for tonight even
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Speaker 1: though you know it's a little bit of a different
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Speaker 1: feeling than the first two matches for sure?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Look, these all bring a special vibe, and the biggest
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Speaker 2: thing is getting everyone together. I'd love in my brain
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Speaker 2: that people are getting together, They're going to bars, they're
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Speaker 2: hanging out, they're conversing.
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Speaker 4: In this time.
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Speaker 2: It gives us something to kind of rally around with
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Speaker 2: all the distractions let's just call them PC on radio
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Speaker 2: distraction going on in the world. This has brought our
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Speaker 2: community together, whether it's here around the country, everyone is
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Speaker 2: really rallied around it, and I've been so impressed by
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Speaker 2: people showing up, especially when the game was here in Seattle.
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Speaker 3: I'll be at the Peer tonight for a watch party.
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Speaker 2: I think people will start lining up four or five
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Speaker 2: hours before on the pier, So get there early if
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Speaker 2: you can. It's people are gonna show up and show out.
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Speaker 2: It'll be a nice, cool night here on the pier.
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Speaker 2: But it's just I wish it was every year, but
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Speaker 2: then it would take away the splendor of what we're
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Speaker 2: experiencing right now. So we do have to wait every
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Speaker 2: four years. And that's why this is just so monumental
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Speaker 2: for me. In all soccer fans and players.
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Speaker 4: It has been great.
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Speaker 1: And take that from somebody that you know isn't a
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Speaker 1: soccer fan, diehard soccer fan, like I mean, like yourself.
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Speaker 1: From my perspective, seeing it all, seeing the community come together,
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Speaker 1: seeing Seattle, seeing the country, seeing the world come together,
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Speaker 1: it's been really great. I mean it really has, Brad.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think for the casual soccer fan, it's
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Speaker 2: the perfect tournament. You don't have to be a diehard,
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Speaker 2: like you said it was. If something comes around every
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Speaker 2: four years, you can sacrifice ninety minutes here and there
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Speaker 2: to catch a game or support your country.
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Speaker 1: All right, man, great stuff, We appreciate it, and we
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Speaker 1: will bug you again soon. All right, all right, guys,
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Speaker 6: new part of your your segment, So thanks for having
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Speaker 6: me on.
17:21
Speaker 1: Well, it's great to have you. And I used to
17:23
Speaker 1: work for Matt and Higgean once upon a time. Tell
17:27
Speaker 1: me he's not on your last nerve.
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Speaker 6: No, no, And I don't think we're gonna spend an
17:33
Speaker 6: entire segment in our show either, you know, digging into
17:35
Speaker 6: the history and the some of the background of mister Nahegan.
17:39
Speaker 6: But he told me that you do an awesome an
17:41
Speaker 6: awesome job, and something happy to help you out and
17:44
Speaker 6: that with you this morning.
17:44
Speaker 4: All right, Well, I appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Well, we're going to talk about Brian Flory with you,
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Speaker 1: and we appreciate your insights into all of this. And
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Speaker 1: I would just I'll start with this. I mean, this
17:56
Speaker 1: happened within the division. Forty nine ers lose their Brian
18:00
Speaker 1: Floury to be the offensive coordinator of the Seattle Seahawks.
18:03
Speaker 1: How much did it hurt San Francisco forty nine Er
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Speaker 1: fans Evan Gettings to find out Brian Fleury was leaving
18:10
Speaker 1: for enemy territory.
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Speaker 6: Well, certainly not more than the Seahawks winning the Super
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Speaker 6: Bowl at Levi's Stadium. I don't know if anything's ever
18:18
Speaker 6: going to be able to top that for forty nine
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Speaker 6: Ers fans, so Flory might have to take a back seat.
18:23
Speaker 6: But you know, it's interesting. I know that Clint Kubiak
18:26
Speaker 6: didn't take a direct route from San Francisco to Seattle,
18:28
Speaker 6: a HEAs spent one season in New Orleans. But to me,
18:31
Speaker 6: the hires kind of along those lines where Flory has
18:34
Speaker 6: worked his way up, not as quickly as Kubiak, but
18:36
Speaker 6: he's from the Shanahan school of thought when it comes
18:39
Speaker 6: to offense. And I like the hire for the Seahawks
18:43
Speaker 6: because I think it kind of keeps the status quo,
18:45
Speaker 6: so to speak, offensively similar system, a lot of the
18:49
Speaker 6: same playmakers outside of obviously Kenneth Walker, So I think
18:53
Speaker 6: that Seattle is trying to keep things the same. San
18:57
Speaker 6: Francisco has churned out coach after coach after coach, coordinator
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Speaker 6: after coordinator, Demico Ryans, Robert Sala, Kubiak, now Flori, so
19:06
Speaker 6: they've been accustomed to losing good talent, and obviously Seattle
19:10
Speaker 6: has been used to acquiring and then maximizing that talent.
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, And did Flori show the what kind of
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Speaker 1: signs did he show as an offensive play caller, you know,
19:24
Speaker 1: the potential to be an offensive play caller when he
19:26
Speaker 1: was in San Francisco. I think another way to ask
19:29
Speaker 1: you this, how much did it hurt Kyle Shanahan to
19:32
Speaker 1: have maybe some of his secrets leaving town and going
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Speaker 1: to Seattle.
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think Kyle Shanahan is in a
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Speaker 6: place where he's had to really look at the whiteboard
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Speaker 6: and say, how do I want to evolve or get better?
19:45
Speaker 6: Because offensively it's been a little stagnant the past couple
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Speaker 6: of seasons since they're they're run to a Super Bowl
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Speaker 6: runner up in twenty twenty three. I think Flori is
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Speaker 6: a guy that sort of My biggest question is is
19:58
Speaker 6: he someone that could he like a Mike McDaniel who
20:01
Speaker 6: held the same role with the forty nine ers as
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Speaker 6: a run game coordinator. He didn't coach tight ends, but
20:07
Speaker 6: he was the run game coordinator before he left to
20:09
Speaker 6: go to Miami. And so is he you know, somewhat
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Speaker 6: of a you know, kind of a new school sort
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Speaker 6: of thought guy like Mike McDaniel, or is he a
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Speaker 6: guy who you know, has kind of just come into
20:20
Speaker 6: to maintain things and and basically keep the ship and
20:23
Speaker 6: the you know, the car on the road. I feel
20:26
Speaker 6: like he's a little more that guy than a creative
20:30
Speaker 6: or some lot of an imaginative sort of play caller
20:33
Speaker 6: like Mike McDaniel. But the one, the one thing that
20:35
Speaker 6: he has done is work with great running running games
20:39
Speaker 6: part of me, and he's maximized lesser than offensive lines.
20:42
Speaker 6: The Niners, to me, though there their numbers have been
20:45
Speaker 6: pretty good, they have not been a great running offensive line.
20:49
Speaker 6: They have not pass protected particularly well over the past
20:51
Speaker 6: couple of seasons. And yet it's a team that won
20:54
Speaker 6: a playoff game last year and then obviously got spanked
20:56
Speaker 6: up in Seattle. But I think he's gotten the most
20:59
Speaker 6: out of a running game that did not have a
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Speaker 6: ton of talent outside of Christian McCaffrey, and that, to
21:03
Speaker 6: me is what Seattle Seahawks fans should be excited about
21:06
Speaker 6: him getting the most out of that side of the offense.
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Speaker 1: Evan Gettings is with us from ninety five to seven
21:11
Speaker 1: the game in San Francisco and joining us to talk
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Speaker 1: about Brian Florey in our Seahawks one series, the Seahawks
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Speaker 1: brand new offensive coordinator. You mentioned the relationship with the
21:23
Speaker 1: tight ends. We have a colorful tight end with a
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Speaker 1: lot of upside in a J barner and automatically, some
21:30
Speaker 1: people here who have seen the success of George Kittle
21:33
Speaker 1: and San Francisco are kind of wondering, kind of hoping,
21:36
Speaker 1: could he turn into that type of guy. How much
21:39
Speaker 1: did Brian Fleury have to do with George Kittle's excellence.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think that he steered him into more of
21:48
Speaker 6: a dual thread sort of of option. When he got here,
21:51
Speaker 6: George Kittle was the number one passing option just because
21:54
Speaker 6: there wasn't a whole lot of talent outside of him,
21:56
Speaker 6: even dating back to when they made a run to
21:58
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl in two thousand, twenty nineteen. You know,
22:02
Speaker 6: George kill broke the single season tight end receiving record
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Speaker 6: of the year before was really good in twenty nineteen.
22:08
Speaker 6: But then the last few seasons when he's gotten with Flory,
22:11
Speaker 6: I think he's been allowed to flourish as sort of
22:14
Speaker 6: a dual threat and maybe the best one in football
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Speaker 6: being a guy that can get out of the backfield,
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Speaker 6: do damage after the catch, but also absolutely pound you
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Speaker 6: in the run game. And I think that's what's been
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Speaker 6: the most I guess I would call, you know, consistent
22:28
Speaker 6: part of George Kittle's game, and I think with aj Barner,
22:32
Speaker 6: you know, this could be the opportunity for him to
22:34
Speaker 6: establish himself as one of those tight ends that you
22:37
Speaker 6: can't really you know, stack the box against because you're
22:41
Speaker 6: not necessarily sure if he's going to beat you in
22:43
Speaker 6: the passing game. But you also can't play dime or
22:45
Speaker 6: nickel and keep an extra defensive back on the field
22:47
Speaker 6: because he's going to absolutely, you know, graze you up
22:50
Speaker 6: the field with his ability to block. So I think
22:52
Speaker 6: that's where Floory is going to be able to help
22:54
Speaker 6: him take the next step. Is not necessarily, as you know,
22:57
Speaker 6: a prolific pass catcher or someone that's going for thirteen
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Speaker 6: hn yards and eight touchdowns a year, but a guy
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Speaker 6: that can be a threat for the Seahawks and make
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Speaker 6: their offense as much of a chameleon as possible the
23:08
Speaker 6: way he did in San Francisco.
23:09
Speaker 1: You have no way of knowing this, but since you
23:11
Speaker 1: know Brian Fleury a little bit better than us, having
23:14
Speaker 1: covered him game to game there with the San Francisco
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Speaker 1: forty nine ers. What is your gut feeling aggressive as
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Speaker 1: a play caller, do you think or perhaps a little
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Speaker 1: more conservative? Is he going to be run happy as
23:28
Speaker 1: you might have suggested earlier in our conversation, or do
23:32
Speaker 1: you see him he couldn't wait to start throwing the
23:35
Speaker 1: football around the yard when he got to be able
23:37
Speaker 1: to call his own plays and call his own shots.
23:39
Speaker 1: What how would you handicap it based off of what
23:42
Speaker 1: you know of Brian Florey.
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Speaker 6: From what I know, he seems to be like more
23:48
Speaker 6: of a conservative kind of cat. But you know, the
23:51
Speaker 6: one thing that he didn't have in San Francisco was
23:54
Speaker 6: a number one wide receiving option, and that's something that
23:57
Speaker 6: he absolutely has in Seattle or you know, I would love. Yeah,
24:03
Speaker 6: it's been a nice little player in the past couple
24:05
Speaker 6: of seasons. There's no doubt about it. Yeah, Jackson Smith
24:08
Speaker 6: and Jigba is an animal, and so you know, the
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Speaker 6: Niners have had nothing close to that in my opinion,
24:13
Speaker 6: even when Brandon Ayuk was not off his rocker and
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Speaker 6: running fade routes off the team. I think he was
24:18
Speaker 6: nowhere in his class, So I think that is going
24:20
Speaker 6: to be where I believe Flory gets aggressive. Is He's
24:24
Speaker 6: also worked with Stam Darnold. You know, he's had him
24:27
Speaker 6: here in San Francisco, Al Vietnam as a starting quarterback,
24:30
Speaker 6: so I think there's some familiarity along with an ability
24:33
Speaker 6: to grow. So my gut would tell me that he's
24:36
Speaker 6: going to be conservative, try and run the football and
24:39
Speaker 6: establish that that type of offense. But I do think
24:42
Speaker 6: that you're going to see a guy that, contrary to
24:45
Speaker 6: what we learned in San Francisco, is not going to
24:47
Speaker 6: be afraid to dial up the deep ball, move the
24:50
Speaker 6: ball down the field, and try and run up the
24:53
Speaker 6: scoreboard to complement that obviously awesome defense.
24:57
Speaker 1: Personality wise, he looks like a pirate. He's very soft spoken,
25:02
Speaker 1: and he seems to have a sense of humor. We've
25:05
Speaker 1: had him on the station a couple of times. How
25:08
Speaker 1: would you describe Brian Fleourri's personality.
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Speaker 6: I think he's pretty laid back, but he's also you know,
25:15
Speaker 6: one part about him that I think gets a little
25:17
Speaker 6: bit understated is the fact that he is analytically driven.
25:22
Speaker 6: You know, I think because he's soft spoken. Like you said,
25:26
Speaker 6: he looks like he might have straight off the beaten
25:28
Speaker 6: path at a time or two. He's a guy that
25:31
Speaker 6: doesn't really give the vibe that he's you know, digging
25:34
Speaker 6: through Excel sheets day by day. But with Miami he
25:37
Speaker 6: was the director of football research. You know, he was
25:39
Speaker 6: an analyst before he got into his time with San Francisco,
25:43
Speaker 6: and I think that's what attracted the forty nine ers
25:45
Speaker 6: and Kyle Shanahan to him, the fact that he had
25:47
Speaker 6: a kind of a traditional football background working his way
25:51
Speaker 6: from the college ranks, and he's pretty much coached every
25:54
Speaker 6: single position on both sides of the football, you know, linebackers,
25:58
Speaker 6: special teams, defensive backs, he's been a tight ends coach.
26:02
Speaker 6: He's done offensive and defensive quality control. He's been a
26:04
Speaker 6: run game coordinator, he's done just about everything. But through
26:07
Speaker 6: all of it, he's been analytically driven. And that's something
26:10
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty six that you know, maybe the average
26:13
Speaker 6: fan doesn't really find sex to or feel is a
26:15
Speaker 6: big part of football, but it absolutely is key to
26:18
Speaker 6: being a successful organization, and I think the Seahawks have
26:21
Speaker 6: been a great example of that. So I think That's
26:23
Speaker 6: the part about him that I think people are going
26:26
Speaker 6: to learn, hopefully over time as he begins to share
26:29
Speaker 6: more of himself, that he is an analytically driven kind
26:31
Speaker 6: of guy, and I think you're going to see that
26:33
Speaker 6: reflected in some of his decisions on Sundays.
26:36
Speaker 1: Last thing for you, Evan, would you rather Clint Kubiak
26:39
Speaker 1: still be our offensive coordinator or Brian Florey be our
26:44
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator? As someone who follows and probably roots for
26:47
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers.
26:50
Speaker 6: I think it's hard to not want consistency, to not
26:54
Speaker 6: want a guy to stay in the same place and
26:57
Speaker 6: sort of build, But I don't think there's honestly going
27:00
Speaker 6: to be a massive difference. Kubiak is a is a
27:03
Speaker 6: good young coordinator, but I think he took the Las
27:06
Speaker 6: Vegas job just because that was the path that he
27:09
Speaker 6: was on, and you never know when those head coaching
27:11
Speaker 6: positions come up. You know, I think that Kubiak in
27:13
Speaker 6: a couple of years, based on what the Raiders have been,
27:16
Speaker 6: maybe wishing that he had stayed with the Seahawks and
27:18
Speaker 6: was contending for Super Bowls before going off to get
27:21
Speaker 6: another head coaching job. But you know, I think Flory
27:24
Speaker 6: is trying to one day become a head coach. I
27:27
Speaker 6: think he's on that track should he continue to succeed
27:29
Speaker 6: with Seattle. So I would love to have kept Kubiak,
27:32
Speaker 6: but I don't think.
27:35
Speaker 1: Well, we just lose Evan right at the finish line.
27:39
Speaker 3: Ah, man, we lost Evan?
27:40
Speaker 4: Is he back?
27:41
Speaker 2: Is back?
27:42
Speaker 7: He just heard him?
27:43
Speaker 2: Ye?
27:44
Speaker 4: Evan, you're there?
27:47
Speaker 3: Oh no, okay, we lost him.
27:50
Speaker 4: Okay, I think we lost him. All right.
27:52
Speaker 1: Well we were at the end anyway, and he is
27:54
Speaker 1: from San Francisco, so I don't mind that it ended rudely.
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Speaker 4: So that's fun. That's all right.
28:02
Speaker 1: But that was good stuff, great stuff from Evan gettings
28:04
Speaker 1: at ninety five seven the game. We appreciate him joining
28:08
Speaker 1: us here on the radio program, and hopefully he's okay.
28:11
Speaker 1: Hopefully a meteor didn't crash through his house and strike
28:14
Speaker 1: him while he was doing our interview. I would like
28:17
Speaker 1: for him to have had one better moment, final moment
28:20
Speaker 1: than that.
28:20
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, no, he's talking a lot better moments.
28:23
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, talking to us.
28:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, hopefully you know, I picture Evan
28:28
Speaker 1: passing away by getting hit by a meteor while making
28:31
Speaker 1: love to Anne Hathaway.
28:32
Speaker 7: For example, in fifty million years.
28:36
Speaker 1: Yes, that's that's what I That's what I envisioned for him.
28:40
Speaker 1: All right, we appreciate him joining us. Great stuff. That
28:42
Speaker 1: was really good. Good breakdown of Brian Florey coming up next, man,
28:46
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark, she's in the news again. Sports Radio ninety
28:49
Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM. I don't have a lot of times,
28:57
Speaker 1: so you get right to do this here because Kaylen
29:00
Speaker 1: Clark is back in the news again, all over the
29:03
Speaker 1: place for videos, coach going off after the game, Caitlin
29:07
Speaker 1: Clark having to explain what happened again in another press conference.
29:11
Speaker 1: In other words, Caitlin Clark is being headline news for
29:14
Speaker 1: all the wrong reasons once again. And what an absurd
29:18
Speaker 1: waste of an opportunity for the WNBA, What an absurd
29:22
Speaker 1: waste of a talent that had generated more enthusiasm and
29:26
Speaker 1: an excitement for women's basketball than anyone in the history
29:30
Speaker 1: of the sport. I agree with Charles Barkley when he
29:33
Speaker 1: said a couple of weeks ago they could not have
29:36
Speaker 1: blown the Caitlin Clark situation worse.
29:39
Speaker 4: Than what they have in the WNBA.
29:41
Speaker 1: And I want to read something for you and I
29:43
Speaker 1: can't look. This is the only thing I've ever seen
29:46
Speaker 1: from this person this site. I feel like I am
29:50
Speaker 1: obligated to, so I'm not plagiarizing to tell you where
29:54
Speaker 1: it came from. I have no idea if they write
29:57
Speaker 1: otherwise about like punching puppies or you know, you know,
30:02
Speaker 1: cursing at little.
30:03
Speaker 4: Kids, I have no idea.
30:05
Speaker 1: So I'm not like saying, hey, you should follow this person,
30:09
Speaker 1: but I will say this when it comes to Caitlin Clark,
30:12
Speaker 1: whoever this is, they nailed this narrative and it's the
30:16
Speaker 1: Sports Patriot Again. I'm not telling you to follow them not.
30:19
Speaker 1: I have no idea what else they do. This came
30:22
Speaker 1: across my desk not long ago. I've been sitting on
30:25
Speaker 1: it for the right period of time to read it,
30:27
Speaker 1: and I think it sums up exactly what has happened
30:30
Speaker 1: in the Caitlin Clark experience since she went to the WNBA.
30:34
Speaker 4: So here we go. I'm just going to read this
30:36
Speaker 4: for you.
30:37
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark came into the game with the joy of
30:39
Speaker 1: someone who stood, who still looked like she remembered why
30:42
Speaker 1: she started playing in the first place. There was a
30:45
Speaker 1: freedom to her, a little bounce, a little mischief, a
30:48
Speaker 1: little can you believe we get to do this type
30:50
Speaker 1: of energy. This is what made people fall in love
30:53
Speaker 1: with her before the WNBA ever figured out how valuable
30:56
Speaker 1: she was. She made the game feel alive. And that
30:59
Speaker 1: is why watching this season has been so hard, because
31:03
Speaker 1: somewhere along the way, the league that benefited from her
31:05
Speaker 1: joy started testing how much of it she could keep.
31:08
Speaker 1: The hard fouls, the cheap shots, the strange whistles, the
31:11
Speaker 1: technicals for reacting like a human being, The constant lectures
31:14
Speaker 1: from people who should be thanking her, the media members
31:17
Speaker 1: who keep trying to make her smaller, the veterans who
31:20
Speaker 1: seem more interested in reminding her where she is than
31:23
Speaker 1: appreciating what she brought. The coaches and league voices who
31:26
Speaker 1: keep acting like all of this is normal. It is
31:29
Speaker 1: not normal, and fans are not crazy for noticing there
31:32
Speaker 1: is a difference between a young star adjusting to a
31:34
Speaker 1: professional league and a young star being hardened by a
31:37
Speaker 1: league that still does not seem comfortable with how much
31:40
Speaker 1: she matters. Caitlin Clark did not just bring attention to
31:43
Speaker 1: the WNBA. She brought money, She brought ratings, she brought
31:47
Speaker 1: packed buildings. She brought new fans, she brought old basketball families.
31:51
Speaker 1: She brought fathers and daughters. She brought people who had
31:54
Speaker 1: not watched this league in years. She brought the kind
31:57
Speaker 1: of relevance leagues spend decades trying to manage facture, and
32:01
Speaker 1: somehow too many people around the WNBA have treated that
32:04
Speaker 1: gift like a problem to be managed instead of a
32:07
Speaker 1: miracle to be protected. That is the tragedy, not that
32:10
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark is facing pressure. Greatness always brings pressure, Not
32:14
Speaker 1: that opponents are physical, this is professional basketball. Not that
32:18
Speaker 1: she had bad games. Every player does. The tragedy is
32:21
Speaker 1: watching a player who brought so much life into the
32:24
Speaker 1: league have to fight so hard to keep the joy
32:26
Speaker 1: from being beaten out of her.
32:29
Speaker 7: Wow.
32:30
Speaker 4: That's it.
32:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sums it up perfectly right there. And then, look,
32:35
Speaker 1: I know that Caitlin Clark is a trash talker, and
32:38
Speaker 1: I know that you know she's probably thrown an elbow
32:41
Speaker 1: or two. And I'm not sitting here saying that she's
32:44
Speaker 1: one hundred percent innocent. But then again, when you are made,
32:49
Speaker 1: when you are sort of made an object of everyone
32:52
Speaker 1: else's ire, you can't just roll over and take it.
32:56
Speaker 1: You do have to fight back a little bit, and
32:58
Speaker 1: so you do have to get some time as nasty
33:01
Speaker 1: as they're being toward you. And I know there's an
33:03
Speaker 1: edge to her, and I know she's a trash talker
33:05
Speaker 1: and everything else, but I don't think she could survive
33:08
Speaker 1: if those things didn't exist. They are totally blowing this.
33:13
Speaker 1: They had never had more momentum as a league and
33:16
Speaker 1: it was mostly because of her, and they are just
33:20
Speaker 1: beating the joy out of her.
33:22
Speaker 4: You can see it from game to game. And where
33:25
Speaker 4: is Sue Byrd?
33:26
Speaker 1: I realize she's perfect in the eyes of everyone in Seattle.
33:30
Speaker 1: Where is Diana Tarossi? Where are the people that Leeza
33:33
Speaker 1: Leslie's of the world that can recognize, hey, let's have
33:37
Speaker 1: a meeting.
33:38
Speaker 5: I mean they were, well, at least Diana Tarassi was
33:40
Speaker 5: part of the anti at first.
33:42
Speaker 4: She's come around a little bit, But where are you?
33:44
Speaker 4: Where are the faces?
33:45
Speaker 1: Where are the voices of the pioneers that are like, hey,
33:48
Speaker 1: we got a good thing going here? Do we really
33:50
Speaker 1: want to chase her out of the league? Last night
33:53
Speaker 1: she got choked slammed on the court. Last night got
33:56
Speaker 1: kicked by the person who choked her on her way
33:58
Speaker 1: up on her way from sanding up, and then apparently
34:03
Speaker 1: there was another flagrant foul earlier. Neither of them even
34:06
Speaker 1: got cold during the course of the game, and the
34:10
Speaker 1: opponents were laughing about how a much larger, more physical
34:15
Speaker 1: player kind of man kind of beat her up on
34:18
Speaker 1: the floor instead of Oh my gosh, what are we doing.
34:21
Speaker 1: What are we doing to our golden goose. We're going
34:25
Speaker 1: to kill our golden goose if we're not careful. She's
34:28
Speaker 1: not near the player that she was. She doesn't this
34:31
Speaker 1: person's right, doesn't have near the light in her eyes
34:33
Speaker 1: that she used to have, and she's actually getting nastier
34:37
Speaker 1: because it's a defense mechanism against what's being done to her,
34:42
Speaker 1: and she probably doesn't have any choice, but it's made
34:45
Speaker 1: her less likable because of it.
34:47
Speaker 4: And it's this full circle that the.
34:49
Speaker 1: WNBA will do nothing to try and treat and try
34:53
Speaker 1: to combat and try to make better. And if this
34:56
Speaker 1: thing ends up flaming out, and she flames out, and
34:59
Speaker 1: the WNBA goes right back to pretty much being ignored
35:03
Speaker 1: by the mainstream sports media, you have no one to
35:06
Speaker 1: blame but yourselves. And I'm talking not just about current
35:09
Speaker 1: WNBA players, but anyone that has have anything to do
35:13
Speaker 1: with this league, either in the past, present, or into
35:16
Speaker 1: the future.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't understand why it seems that people are
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Speaker 5: threatened by her and what she could bring to the
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Speaker 5: league instead of embracing it and going along with it.
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Speaker 5: Just because it wouldn't happen during like the former player's time,
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Speaker 5: doesn't mean they weren't a part of it.
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Speaker 7: They helped grow it.
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Speaker 5: They got it to the place where Kitlyn Clark's can
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Speaker 5: join the league and be a part of the league
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Speaker 5: and help it grow it even more. It's not a
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Speaker 5: Caitlyn Clark versus everybody else.
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Speaker 7: It should be all of them in it together, as.
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Speaker 4: Well as Indiana Fever. I think I think her teammates
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Speaker 4: are behind it, but who knows.
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Speaker 7: Well, no, it seems like that, but who knows if they.
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Speaker 3: Are behind her?
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Speaker 1: But I mean, this is just not the way that
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Speaker 1: this should have unfolded when she came into the league,
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Speaker 1: to have to fight every single step of the way
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Speaker 1: to try to have fun on a basketball floor. But
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Speaker 1: that's the way that it's turned out to be.
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Speaker 6: All right.
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Speaker 1: Coming up next it's trade season and Jeff Passing has
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