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Jeff Legwold joins Moser, Lombardi and Kane after the Senior Bowl · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 5: we doing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm good, guys doing good?
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  Speaker 4: Hey man, stop stop? What I like Mobile Alabama?
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  Speaker 3: Well, then you know what most the tour.
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  Speaker 4: Of the USS Alabama in Mobile Alabama.
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  Speaker 3: It was you're going on a vacation soon. Where are
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  Speaker 3: you going? Oh? Why not Mobile? Well I've already been
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  Speaker 3: to Mobile. Oh you've never been to France before?
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  Speaker 2: About that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my bad. Anyway, Jeff, you were there for the.
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  Speaker 6: Senior nobody's invaded at Orange Beach, so he's not gonna
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  Speaker 6: go much.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, uh, Jeff, you were there for the Senior Bowl,
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  Speaker 5: and I remember just off the top there was a
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  Speaker 5: drill between defensive line and offensive lineman. Some kid from
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  Speaker 5: Marshall absolutely obliterated. Somebody was there like that was all
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  Speaker 5: over ESPN.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, what was.
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  Speaker 5: Your overall takeaway of the Senior Bowl from a Broncos perspective?
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  Speaker 3: What do you think they're looking at in this Senior Bowl?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, at this point, you know, if you're
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  Speaker 6: the Broncos, you're obviously looking for some some offensive pop
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  Speaker 6: on offense, and you know a lot of times at
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  Speaker 6: the Senior Ball you're really kind of looking, you know, okay,
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  Speaker 6: where's somebody down the board? You know, second second day,
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  Speaker 6: third day, where could we sneak an athlete you know,
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  Speaker 6: into the draft class? And you know there is a
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  Speaker 6: lot of that, and then some of it is you know,
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  Speaker 6: some developmental guys, like you'll see, you know that the
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  Speaker 6: guy might not be a finished product or you know,
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  Speaker 6: have a little you know, rough around the edges, but
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  Speaker 6: maybe two years from now, especially among the alignemen, you know,
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  Speaker 6: with a little work or you know whatever. I think
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  Speaker 6: that's a lot of the Senior Bowl now is is
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  Speaker 6: kind of looking at those middle round guys and really
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  Speaker 6: thinking can we find some impact there? And sometimes, you know,
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  Speaker 6: guys will shock you just by how good they look
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  Speaker 6: in person. And I think one thing I always see
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  Speaker 6: is who's really prepared for the week, Like who really
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  Speaker 6: put in the time after their season, after a long season?
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  Speaker 2: Who did the work?
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  Speaker 6: And I'll tell you one guy that impressed me, and
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  Speaker 6: if I'm the Broncos, I certainly look is Oregon linebacker
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  Speaker 6: named Bassa, Jeffrey Bassa.
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  Speaker 2: Now that guy looked like he was still.
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  Speaker 6: In season when he showed up, I mean he was
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  Speaker 6: you could tell he had done the work to get
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  Speaker 6: ready to be at the Senior Ball.
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  Speaker 2: So I think guys like that are people they look at.
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  Speaker 5: One name just specifically real quick that I know some
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  Speaker 5: Broncos fans have been talking about, Hey, maybe a mid
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  Speaker 5: round guy that you could take that could help in
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  Speaker 5: that skill position spot. Somebody who ran all over see
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  Speaker 5: you this year was Devin Neil out of Kansas.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think of him?
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  Speaker 6: You know, he had just okay two days when I
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  Speaker 6: was there. But again, you know that formats tough. You're
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  Speaker 6: playing with quarterbacks you haven't been around. Uh sometimes you
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  Speaker 6: haven't caught a pass from the guy or taken a
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  Speaker 6: handoff from the guy until practice, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So Uh, I think he you know.
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  Speaker 6: He he can do everything they want. Uh, it's just
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  Speaker 6: gonna be a matter of, you know, how much athleticism
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  Speaker 6: he shows if he if he works out at the combine.
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  Speaker 6: But he had he hit an okay week, not a
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  Speaker 6: great week, but an okay week.
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  Speaker 7: Jeffery, is there a tight end that you saw at
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  Speaker 7: the Senior Ball that could emerge on the Broncos radar?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there are a couple who had good way.
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  Speaker 2: I looked down at.
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  Speaker 6: My uh, but I think the guy really popped for
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  Speaker 6: people was a royal from Miami.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: He had a really good week.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: So that's that's sort of a down the board guy.
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  Speaker 6: Now Fannin was there from Bowling Green and he had
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  Speaker 6: just an okay week. I think the environment can be
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  Speaker 6: tough for some guys. You know, suddenly you're thrown in
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  Speaker 6: with the SEC and the you know, the big ten.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you're just in the big pond. And he
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  Speaker 6: showed his athleticism. You can see there's a lot there.
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  Speaker 6: But I think Arroyo, for me, had had the best
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  Speaker 6: week among the or the best days.
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  Speaker 2: I was there among the tight ends.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff. Back in the day, I guess the Senior Bowl
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  Speaker 4: and I'll even say the East wast Shrine Game. Right,
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  Speaker 4: these were pretty big deals, full of scouts and all
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  Speaker 4: kind of thing. I'm sure they still are. But how
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  Speaker 4: has it changed in terms of scouting, in terms of
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  Speaker 4: preparation over the last let's say, twenty thirty years, from
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  Speaker 4: what it once was to where it is right now?
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  Speaker 6: I think a lot a lot more guys will sit
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  Speaker 6: out now, the top guys. You know, the Senior Bowl.
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  Speaker 6: The top guys used to all go there right right,
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  Speaker 6: you know, because there wasn't so much contact between teams
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  Speaker 6: and the players between the season and the draft as
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  Speaker 6: there is now. I mean, teams are far more willing
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  Speaker 6: a fly around all over the place for private workouts
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  Speaker 6: than they were in the past. They teams just simply
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  Speaker 6: spend more money than they used to on scouting because
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  Speaker 6: in the salary cap world, the good teams, that's how
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  Speaker 6: you stay good is spend your money in scouting. So
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  Speaker 6: there's just a lot more of that going on, and
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  Speaker 6: a lot of teams prefer to have their own sort
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  Speaker 6: of bubble when they're working a guy out rather than
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  Speaker 6: the you know, the swirl that is the Senior Bowl
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  Speaker 6: or the Shrine Game or any of those. But what
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  Speaker 6: you can do in an All Star game is still
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  Speaker 6: get up close, interview guys, talk to them, and do
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  Speaker 6: all of that. So that's a lot of what happens
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  Speaker 6: off the field is sometimes even as important as on
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  Speaker 6: the field.
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  Speaker 4: See, that's the important part, right because I guess back
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  Speaker 4: in the day it was probably harder to get film
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  Speaker 4: on guys too, and some guys and some guys popped
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  Speaker 4: at these things. You're going, well, who the hell is
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  Speaker 4: this kid out of Western Michigan. That kind of thing, right,
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  Speaker 4: because the scouts can't get everywhere. Now you've got film
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  Speaker 4: on no matter where the guy plays. You probably got
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  Speaker 4: a ton. But it's that, is it, not that interpersonal
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  Speaker 4: thing that maybe gives you a leg up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they're looking for now.
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  Speaker 6: I mean I can when I you know, thirty years ago,
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  Speaker 6: when I was going to my first Senior Bowls, you know,
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  Speaker 6: a guy would have a good week and and scouts
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  Speaker 6: would literally tell you, man, I'm gonna have to go
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  Speaker 6: back and do a lot more work on that guy
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  Speaker 6: because they they didn't have the information on them. But
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  Speaker 6: now scouting staffs are so much bigger, the technology is
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  Speaker 6: so much better.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they people.
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  Speaker 6: Show up at the Senior Ball with long, vast reports
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  Speaker 6: on all of these guys, and I find it amusing
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  Speaker 6: every year people talking about sleepers at the Senior Ball.
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  Speaker 6: I got news for you. If you're at the Senior Ball,
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  Speaker 6: you're not a sleeper, and you're never going to be
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  Speaker 6: at a sleeper. So it's like sleepers at the combine.
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  Speaker 6: You're not a sleeper. If you're at the combine, you've
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  Speaker 6: already been discovered and you're at the combine. So just
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  Speaker 6: because you played at a small school doesn't make you
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  Speaker 6: a sleeper anyway.
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  Speaker 5: Been seeing some reports Jackson Dart could be sliding up
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  Speaker 5: to like the second best quarterback on the board or
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  Speaker 5: third best.
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  Speaker 3: What did you see?
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  Speaker 6: F Yeah, it'd be hard for me to believe he
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  Speaker 6: makes it into the top two. But he didn't have
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  Speaker 6: particularly good days when I was there, so especially the
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  Speaker 6: first day.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the first day for quarterbacks is always brutal.
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  Speaker 6: Even last year when Nix and uh you know Pennix
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  Speaker 6: were there, you know the apartment from Notre Dame, they
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  Speaker 6: had a they all had a terrible first day. People
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  Speaker 6: were like, do these guys even play quarterback? And it
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  Speaker 6: was the same this year. Those guys really struggled on
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  Speaker 6: the opening day, and Dart in particular, you know. But
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  Speaker 6: that what happens is they put all these guys under
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  Speaker 6: center right away, so they are practicing under center, and
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  Speaker 6: you can l very few of them have been under
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  Speaker 6: center very often.
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  Speaker 2: I imagine, Oh there's fumbles, you know that.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, you know, it's just you know, one poor one,
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  Speaker 6: poor kid, that kid from Canada fumbled his first snap.
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  Speaker 2: Of the first practice.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: Because they put you under center right away, and that's
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  Speaker 6: the hardest thing for the quarterbacks at the Senior Bowl.
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  Speaker 6: Everyone else is sort of put in a position to
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  Speaker 6: perform well. They put the quarterbacks in the position to
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  Speaker 6: just struggle as much as possible.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. So those guys always have a tough week. Uh
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  Speaker 2: down there.
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  Speaker 6: But you know you could tell dark As he's got
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  Speaker 6: plenty of arms, he's got some athleticism.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 6: The question is what will always be how will you
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  Speaker 6: work your progressions in a in an offense that isn't
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  Speaker 6: one read and throw, you know, And that's that that'll
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  Speaker 6: be what he has to address moving forward.
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  Speaker 7: Jeffrey, I look at the Kansas City juggernaut that is okay,
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  Speaker 7: and Mahomes isn't going anywhere.
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  Speaker 6: They've got a lot of twenty nine I like to
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  Speaker 6: remind everybody in twenty nine years jokers age.
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  Speaker 7: But the other piece of that team that is dominant,
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  Speaker 7: and it's proven dominant is their defense. And Spags the
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  Speaker 7: way he runs that defense, the way he pushes buttons
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  Speaker 7: on that defense. And my question has always been why
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  Speaker 7: is Spags still there? How has no one decided to
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  Speaker 7: give him another coaching chance as a head coach.
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  Speaker 6: Defensive guys Big, you know, Spagnola, Vance, Joseph, those guys
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  Speaker 6: have all done enough to earn another chance. When you
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  Speaker 6: look at who's getting hired around the league, they just have.
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  Speaker 6: But uh, you know how fan bases are. How do
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  Speaker 6: people react when you hire a defensive coach. How does
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  Speaker 6: an owner react when you hire a defensive coach. It's
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  Speaker 6: it's just we you know, It's it's not that we
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  Speaker 6: don't care about defense now, it just doesn't ring the bell.
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  Speaker 6: And and that's those guys face such a tough road
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  Speaker 6: to get their second chances, especially as head coaches.
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  Speaker 2: It's just much harder for them to do.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, I like to point out to people,
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  Speaker 6: you know, Kansas City's last Super Bowl winner last year,
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  Speaker 6: sixteen starters were draft picks. They have Mahomes, yes, but
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  Speaker 6: sixteen of their starters in the game were draft picks
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  Speaker 6: seventeen if you count the punter. So we can talk
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  Speaker 6: about Mahomes and should, but they built a Super Bowl
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  Speaker 6: competing team by building in April. We love March because
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  Speaker 6: we know all the names, we know all the players,
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  Speaker 6: and we know what they've done and we know their resumes.
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  Speaker 2: But the real teams build in April.
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  Speaker 4: Does every introductory news conference nowadays have to be a
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  Speaker 4: freak show?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's gotta be.
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  Speaker 6: You gotta win the I love to win the press.
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  Speaker 2: I mean what does that mean? I mean, who cares? Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: I mean that's how about you win games and are
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  Speaker 6: horrible and press conferences.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do that.
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  Speaker 4: I'd be good.
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  Speaker 6: We do every everybody says, you know, I feel bad
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  Speaker 6: for the guys because there's only so many ways you
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  Speaker 6: can describe what you're gonna do.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna play fast.
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  Speaker 6: And smart and tough and yeah, okay, I mean I
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  Speaker 6: I just don't know what people want them to say.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you know, I don't know if I'm ready
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  Speaker 2: for this. You know, we might we might really be
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  Speaker 2: we might really be horrible.
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  Speaker 7: I want them to recite Merchant of Venice from Shakespeare.
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  Speaker 2: I want an entire scene. That's what I speaking. Latin
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  Speaker 2: or something cool, but that's what I want.
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  Speaker 4: That Liam Clan seems like a weirdy no offense, I mean, you.
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  Speaker 2: The community.
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  Speaker 4: Weirdo, Adam Gays, big eyeballs.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, don't even that stuff.
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  Speaker 6: Just say, you know, I'm just you know, I'm here,
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  Speaker 6: I'm ready for this job, and I'll you know, I'll
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  Speaker 6: leave the cheers to the fans and we'll give them
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  Speaker 6: something to cheer about. That's I mean, just deflect and
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  Speaker 6: move on, don't try to do it.
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  Speaker 3: Campbell and Sirianni a few years ago, they were weird.
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  Speaker 3: I was and it worked out for them.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, But but Campbell was being himself. I think that's
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  Speaker 6: you know, that was Dan Campbell being Dan Campbell. To me,
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  Speaker 6: that's that's authentic, you know, anyone who knew him as
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  Speaker 6: a player or his assistant coach. I think a lot
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  Speaker 6: of guys are just they've been drilled you've got to
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  Speaker 6: win the press conference, so they tried to do it.
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  Speaker 2: And I just have never.
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  Speaker 6: Like I'm gonna decide if a guy can coach or
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  Speaker 6: not by the first eighteen minutes of his answering questions
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  Speaker 6: of his career.
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  Speaker 3: That's good. What a job interview is that.
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  Speaker 5: I know it's at the press conference, but that's what
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  Speaker 5: you're doing in the interviews with the owners and gms
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  Speaker 5: and people like that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind.
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  Speaker 6: Of obviously you did enough to get the job right,
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  Speaker 6: you know, to decide you're suddenly going to be good
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  Speaker 6: because he won the press conference.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 6: I just I'd say, wait and see what it looks
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  Speaker 6: like in training camp, but we don't want to do that.
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  Speaker 3: One quick question for you before I let you go
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  Speaker 3: about free agency.
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  Speaker 5: The Broncos got a little bit of cash they can
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  Speaker 5: spend and it's not like they're using a whole bunch
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  Speaker 5: of it on I think re signing some guys. So
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  Speaker 5: with that extra cash, would they think about going after
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  Speaker 5: a veteran whiteout? Would they look at a Chris Godwin,
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  Speaker 5: Would they look at if Cooper cup doesn't return to
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  Speaker 5: the Rams like an option like that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think certainly they'd be in on anything that
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  Speaker 2: would add to the what they could give bo Nicks
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  Speaker 2: around him. You know, I think that's that's certainly the case.
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  Speaker 2: And whind Out.
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  Speaker 6: It's a weak free agency class top to bottom if
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  Speaker 6: you're talking all positions, but wind out is one place
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  Speaker 6: where you could get immediate veteran help that could have impact,
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  Speaker 6: and so I think that is one spot they will
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  Speaker 6: look at. You know, if t Higgins is out there,
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  Speaker 6: I would certainly think he fits. Sean Payton has a
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  Speaker 6: pretty narrow view of what he likes in a wide receiver,
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  Speaker 6: and a lot of the guys don't fit it. So
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  Speaker 6: you got to have some size, and you got to
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  Speaker 6: be able to play multiple spots, and you got to
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  Speaker 6: be willing to stick your face in and block in
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  Speaker 6: the run game. I mean, he's got a really specific
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  Speaker 6: set of guidelines for receivers, and of the free agent
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  Speaker 6: guys or guys who could be out there.
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  Speaker 2: I think T.
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  Speaker 6: Higgins fits at the best, but that will be the
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  Speaker 6: most expensive as well, and probably would take most of
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  Speaker 6: the cap room in many ways. And they are Carrion
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  Speaker 6: thirty eight million or so debt money already, so some
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  Speaker 6: of that space is not really space.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: T Higgins, big, tull and fast, very.
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  Speaker 2: What he wants.
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  Speaker 6: He wants big whiteouts. I kind of chuckle when I
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  Speaker 6: see people pairing all of the He's sort of nickel
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  Speaker 6: slot receivers to Sean Payton, And every time I talk
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  Speaker 6: to him about wide receivers, he's talking about guys who
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  Speaker 6: are six two and but.
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  Speaker 3: Little Jordan Humphreys stuck around so long.
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  Speaker 6: He wants he wants. He makes no secret he wants
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  Speaker 6: big guys out there. He doesn't think little guys can
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  Speaker 6: get open unless they're very, very very special players. It's
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  Speaker 6: just I'll give you I'll give you a name from
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  Speaker 6: the senior ball people should look at under the radar,
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  Speaker 6: that SMU running back Brishard Smith.
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  Speaker 2: That that's a joker, that is a joker player in waiting.
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  Speaker 2: How big, I don't even care.
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  Speaker 6: No, I mean he's he's not too he's about two ten,
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  Speaker 6: but he's a converted he's a converted wide receiver and
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  Speaker 6: he rushed for thirteen hundred yards this year his first
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  Speaker 6: year running back. This he that's a ballplayer and whoever
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  Speaker 6: gets him is getting a ballplayer.
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  Speaker 3: He's listed Brishard Smith. He's listed five to ten.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I think he actually weighed in at like two o
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  Speaker 6: eight or something. But you talk about catching the ball
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  Speaker 6: vision in the hole. Made the first guy miss every
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  Speaker 6: single time, which is my really benchmark for a running back,
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  Speaker 6: because if your running back is going to succeed in
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  Speaker 6: the NFL, you have to get the one guy they
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  Speaker 6: can't block.
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  Speaker 2: That's your responsibility.
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  Speaker 6: And but anyway, that's a little under the radar middle
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  Speaker 6: middle round guy.
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  Speaker 2: I like it. I'll make you.
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  Speaker 7: I'll make you deal because my my, my brother does
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  Speaker 7: a cabinet renovation.
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  Speaker 2: If the Broncos Draftshard.
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  Speaker 7: Smith, yeah, we will renovate those cabinets for free.
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  Speaker 2: Look at that.
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  Speaker 6: No less for my cabinets, you know, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: you know, my my kids are grown up now, so
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  Speaker 6: it's just me here.
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  Speaker 2: Some of those cabinets never get opened.
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  Speaker 1: I could tell.
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  Speaker 6: They're spectacular they're just beautifully you finished, because they never
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  Speaker 6: get used.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 5: Jeff Lagwell joined us every single week. Always appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: LG you Thanks for the time, yeah, Jeff Lagweld. All
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  Speaker 3: Start with a job and with a career.