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Breaking Free: Addressing Rumors and Standing for Truth in Human Trafficking Advocacy (Ep 282) · Voices for Voices®

• 0:00
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Hey everyone, welcome again to another episode of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
• 0:08
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm your host.
• 0:09
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Founder of Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes.
• 0:13
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you so much for joining us, thank you for your love, thank you for your support, thank you for helping us through the ups and the downs, and we can't do this without you.
• 0:27
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So thank you very much.
• 0:40
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And will greatly help our organization and our show reach more people and help more people to continue our strive towards the large goal we have of helping 3 billion people over the course of my lifetime and beyond, of my lifetime and beyond, and it's just incredible to see the outpouring, the interest of people like you, people here in the United States and people all across the world, approaching 80 countries, 800 cities worldwide.
• 1:21
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: We surpassed the 250 total in-studio and out-of-studio episodes and we're just past the 200 after the 250.
• 1:36
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Now we have our sights on that 300 goal, which the total episodes are, by the end of calendar year 2025 and what we thought was going to be a end of the year goal of hitting that 300 total episodes, we're actually going to be hitting that much, much, much sooner.
• 2:02
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And again, that's thanks to you for watching, listening, tuning in, wherever you're from, whether this is your first episode or you've been with us from the beginning, we can't thank you enough If you're able to.
• 2:17
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• 2:55
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• 3:05
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• 3:06
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• 3:13
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: It all helps and we again just want to thank you from the outset, as we try to do each and every show, each and every time that we are making public statements, it's because of you, which is the reason why we're here, why we are continuing our mission to help people all across the world, especially here in the United States.
• 3:51
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: But regardless, a person, a human being, is a human being, whether they are in the United States or whether they're in another country.
• 3:59
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So we treat all life with that dignity and respect and we won't stop our mission until we're able to help and save every last child, every last individual who has been taken from a human trafficking perspective, an abusive situation, an adult relationship and really just again being a voice for ourselves and for others.
• 4:43
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: That's what the organization is about.
• 4:46
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: It's about sharing those voices, sharing those experiences and especially when we're able to dive into a specific topic and provide information which is from that public safety concern standpoint of when we share information on a variety of topics, on all topics really, it's from a public safety perspective that something or some things have happened and so we don't want that to happen to anybody else.
• 5:27
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So that's why we talk about the harder topics.
• 5:31
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: We talk about the hard ideas, the hard experiences, and a lot of organizations, a lot of people won't do that, but we are, we're standing up for that.
• 5:43
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: But we are, we're standing up for that and that's one of the big reasons it makes Voices for Voices a much't right when we see people being taken advantage of.
• 6:11
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So that gives you a little bit of background in this episode is there's always a buzz around our organization because of the work we do, because of the lives that we touch, the people we help, and with that comes from time to time rumors, thoughts, conversations that occur outside of our organization.
• 7:00
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So what I want to do here is to expand upon the TikTok video that we put out yesterday.
• 7:17
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And what that really comes down to is, first, it comes down to a pattern.
• 7:19
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So it's kind of like if you have x o, x, o, x and somebody says what, what comes after that last x, so you look at that pattern and say well, x o, x, o, x o o.
• 7:40
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And so the pattern, right, it's something that's been replicated, it's happened before, it's predictive.
• 7:50
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And so, first and foremost, as we deal with all of the information we give and share, do with all of the information we give and share, and experiences we give and share and thoughts we give and share, is we share based off of facts that we believe to be true in good faith.
• 8:19
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So in my good faith, in our organization's good faith, we talk about lots of lots of topics, lots of areas.
• 8:30
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So that's what the TikTok video was about yesterday.
• 8:37
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: In my opinion, in my good faith effort, there were some conversations that allegedly were taking place.
• 8:57
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Okay, so again, this is me saying in my good faith, my understanding of the circumstances.
• 9:11
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: I believe this to be true and again we talk about First Amendment, free speech.
• 9:20
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: This is what it comes down to.
• 9:29
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So, in my good faith, in my understanding, in my opinion, there have been conversations recently with individuals, and I'll name two of them.
• 9:46
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Again, this was all in my good faith opinion of fact that Bryan Allen Davis, scott Minor, one the other or both of them, have been in contact with certain individuals, certain law enforcement searching for I don't know what they're searching for, but again, in my good faith, in my opinion, given what I believe to be true and a fact, these conversations occurred and Mr Bryan Allen Davis and or Mr Scott Minor Relaying Some false information, some falsehood, and so I put a TikTok together yesterday About that and the the main idea of these conversations.
• 11:09
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Again, I keep saying, to my good faith, in my opinion, what I believe to be true, that these conversations between Mr Bryan Allen Davis and or Mr Scott Minor, the federal law enforcement, there were some things that were shared, some information, and one of those bits of information is what I addressed on the TikTok yesterday.
• 11:43
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And one of those bits of information is what I addressed on the TikTok yesterday and I'm going to address on this episode here again, today or tonight, depending on when you watch or listen, view it, et cetera.
• 11:54
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And one of those topics was and is that Justin Alan Hayes, that Justin Alan Hayes, have been kidnapped, have been trafficked by Mr David Solomon, and it had something to do with my trip to Washington DC and all these things of well, mr Solomon's trafficking Justin, Justin Alan Hayes and I.
• 12:26
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And so when I started to hear some of this information, it really struck me as very odd, and so I asked a few questions.
• 12:44
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And so, in my good faith, I believe, in these conversations that talk about how I'm being trafficked by Mr David Solomon, I felt it was very necessary to come out and address that straight up with the general public, and so that's part of what we're doing here today with this episode is to address it in a little bit of a longer format than the three or four minutes that we did on the TikTok.
• 13:14
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Today, with this episode, let's do a dress-up in a little bit of a longer format, excuse me in the three or four minutes that we did on the TikTok.
• 13:20
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And so my response, in good faith, to what I have been hearing, in good faith, as I believe are facts, is that Mr Scott Minor and or Mr Bryan Davis have been in conversations with federal law enforcement and maybe others, I don't know, but my good faith and fact that comes from was believed to be a conversation between Scott Miner and or Bryan Allen Davis with federal law enforcement and saying, well, Justin, Justin Allen Hayes would be in traffic.
• 14:15
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Justin Allen Hayes has been kidnapped.
• 14:17
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And so this is my response, as it was yesterday and will continue to be I've never, ever, ever, ever been kidnapped by anybody.
• 14:34
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm 43 years old.
• 14:37
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: I've never, ever, ever, ever, ever been kidnapped by anyone, let alone what these potential conversations were suggesting, conversations or suggesting, and I've never, ever, ever, ever been trafficked by anybody.
• 15:07
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Never, ever, ever, ever, let alone by Mr Solomon.
• 15:16
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So let's make that very clear again I've never been human trafficked by anyone.
• 15:21
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: I've never been kidnapped by anyone, I've never been coerced by anyone, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
• 15:42
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And so that's the meat and potatoes of this episode.
• 15:51
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: It's so important that we as human beings, we as individuals, when there's potential rumors, allegations, we learn about them.
• 16:11
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: We all have decisions we can make, and so, in my good faith, I feel and I've felt that these conversations did take place and so it's in my good faith to give a good faith response.
• 16:30
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So that's what I've done, that's what I'm doing and that's what I'm doing and it's what I'll continue to do.
• 16:36
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So if you're ever faced with any type of adversity, any type of hardship, anybody that you think is having conversations or up to some activity, with a reasonable amount of certainty you believe it's wrong what these potential individuals are saying and doing, then you can stand up and you can talk.
• 17:20
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: You can have somebody talk for you.
• 17:22
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Again, that's Voices for Voices.
• 17:25
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: We'd love to hear your story, we'd love to share you on our platform, and there are so many people that are out there that just hearing a familiar voice, a familiar story, and for them to think you know what, I'm not alone, I'm not alone, I'm not alone.
• 17:54
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So I come back to at the beginning of this show, when I talk about a pattern.
• 17:58
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Right, I talk about the XOXOX.
• 18:02
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: What comes next?
• 18:03
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Oh, how does that relate to this episode?
• 18:06
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, the information that I was hearing and have heard in good faith about these conversations that, in good faith, I feel happened between Scott Minor and or Mr Brian Allen Davis, with federal law enforcement and maybe others.
• 18:28
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: What's that have to do with the pattern?
• 18:32
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: What's that have to?
• 18:36
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: What's in my good faith talking and sharing about my good faith understanding of what potentially had been said in these conversations the allegation that Mr Brown, davis and or Scott Kleiner Were given saying Justin Allen Hayes has been trafficked, he's been kidnapped by Mr David Solomon.
• 19:06
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So what's it have to do with the pattern?
• 19:10
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Hmm, well, if you actually go back To episode 266, right, we're over 280 episodes.
• 19:22
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So turn back the clock a little bit.
• 19:23
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: You can find this anywhere, find our show anywhere and look for episode number 266.
• 19:34
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: In that episode there's a conversation with Mr Stephen Reimers, which is the stepfather of Mr David Solomon, and some of the same information that, in my good faith, that I was hearing yesterday and in recent days is very similarly was said about Mr Reimers that Mr Reimers was and had been trafficked and kidnapped by Mr David Solomon.
• 20:10
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: To which, in episode 266, trafficked and kidnapped by Mr David Solomon.
• 20:13
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: To which, in episode 266, again, voices for Voices, great show.
• 20:19
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: I recommend it, like, share, subscribe, thumbs up, tell your friends, your family.
• 20:31
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Let's keep this movement rolling.
• 20:34
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And so Mr Reimer, episode 266, says plain as day that he has never been trafficked by Mr David Solomon, he's never been kidnapped by Mr David Solomon, that Mr Reimer says that he comes and goes as he pleases, full stop.
• 20:56
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So you take that and you line it up with what I believe in good faith, of conversations about me that have come up between Mr Scott Minor and Mr Bryan Allen Davis, which, by the way, those allegations about Mr David Solomon kidnapping and trafficking Mr Stephen Reimers, those came from Mr Bryan Allen Davis.
• 21:28
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Don't listen to me, listen to Mr Stephen Reimers, turn back the clock, go check out episode 266.
• 21:40
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So that's why I call it a pattern, because it's this information has been shared and talked about by one of the very individuals previously about Stephen Reimers being kidnapped and in traffic from Mr David Solomon.
• 22:12
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And Mr Reimers comes out categorically and says complete falsehood.
• 22:17
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And I asked him at the end of the episode you know, mr Reimers, have you been coerced into talking about this and sharing his specific information and answers?
• 22:26
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And he said no, he says I'll tell anybody about this.
• 22:31
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So we fast forward to today and then yesterday with that TikTok video I put out.
• 22:42
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: I've been told that I don't show a lot of emotion.
• 22:44
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, I showed a lot of emotion on that TikTok video.
• 22:51
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: I can assure you I may have came across as over the top, but I felt and feel that it is so important to stand up for ourselves, whether that's physically standing up or just mentally standing up, just standing being a voice for ourselves or somebody else in need, and so that's what I did.
• 23:29
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Some of you have said it's bold, others have said you know that's out of control, and yet others are saying well, I think it is a pattern.
• 23:49
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: This has been said before by one of the very people that I mentioned, mr Bryan Allen Davis.
• 24:01
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: I believe Scott Minor, in my good faith, was included at some point in these conversations.
• 24:08
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't know how much, but what we need to remember, folks, is Mr Scott Minor is the head of Faith Fantasy Alliance LLC, aka Realm Makers, so he's the leader.
• 24:30
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So, at the end of the day, that's something that you have one of your members, which, mr Bryan Allen Davis, is part of Realm Makers for the longest time.
• 24:43
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Thoughts were we don't know each other, I don't know him, he doesn't know me.
• 24:52
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, there's been developments and there will continue to be some developments that prove otherwise, and I'll end the episode on this.
• 25:14
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: We talked about a pattern of accusations that are not true about Mr Stephen Reimers, that he's never, ever been kidnapped, never, ever been trafficked by anyone, let alone Mr David Solomon.
• 25:28
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: It's a complete falsehood and he'll tell it to anybody that wants to ask him and he was not coerced into giving that feedback.
• 25:38
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So I get, in my good faith, information that I believe in my good faith, and I'm saying it because it's in my good faith, that I believe in my good faith and I'm saying it because it's in my good faith, that I'm hearing things, that information is coming to my attention and as a leader of an organization, it's my duty and responsibility for anybody and everybody, not only that's a part of Voices for Voices, but anybody else, because we all have a voice to share.
• 26:16
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And so that's why it's critically important for me to come public yesterday and talk about that and for me to come public again with a little bit more information and explanation on this episode.
• 26:31
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Sort of a pattern, right, mr Steven Reimer?
• 26:36
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: He says nope, categorically false, never happened.
• 26:42
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: In my good faith, I hear some of the same accusation about me that I was trafficked and kidnapped, have been and are been kidnapped and trafficked by Mr David Solomon, and I come forward and I say absolutely, categorically false.
• 27:06
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: I've never been trafficked, I've never been kidnapped, I've never been coicked, I've never been kidnapped, I've never been coerced by anyone.
• 27:13
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: I come and go as I please, as I hearken back to Mr Reimers, and so that's, that's where or this episode is going to conclude, and it's going to conclude by my good faith of my understanding of other conversations, or one of those two individuals that I mentioned earlier saw that TikTok yesterday.
• 27:51
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: It was furious, furious that Jeff Bonanni put this video together, and so I say this oh, and so I say this oh, it's furious that I put the video together and that the conversation that apparently again I'm hearing in my good faith, that it occurred on Mr Scott Minor and Mr Brown Davis, they're saying, well, my understanding is on Mr Scott Minor and Mr Brown Davis.
• 28:31
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: They're saying, well, I didn't know.
• 28:36
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: My understanding is their feedback was that never happened.
• 28:41
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, after the TikTok video, I started getting some good faith information.
• 28:45
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Mr Scott Minor was furious and that the contents of that call, which again, just these short hours before, never happened, claimed to never happen.
• 29:02
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: We're making things up.
• 29:04
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And so Mr Scott Minor, in my good faith, I understand that he said the contents of that conversation.
• 29:19
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Those conversations shouldn't have been talked about.
• 29:23
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: I felt it was important and I wanted to get out in front, which is part of PR 101, marketing 101.
• 29:40
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: It wants you an organization here, a potential point of controversy.
• 29:53
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: You get ahead of it and you come out and you speak your truth in good faith, and so that's what I did.
• 30:02
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So I say to you, scott, you said the conversation didn't occur and then now you're saying, well, that shouldn't have been shared.
• 30:16
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So what is it?
• 30:18
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Can't have it both ways.
• 30:30
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So, again, in my good faith, I continue to feel my good faith.
• 30:32
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: I continue to feel my good faith that that conversation, those conversations did occur, those accusations about myself being trafficked and kidnapped and all that, and, mr David Solomon, in my good faith, that those conversations did occur between Mr Scott Minor and or Mr Bryan Allen Davis, with members of law enforcement, all the way to federal law enforcement, federal law enforcement.
• 31:13
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And so at the end of my days, as I said, I don't continue to say I'm here.
• 31:21
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: I wake up every morning or afternoon, depending on how tired I am.
• 31:28
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: It's to help, it's to lead by example.
• 31:35
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm not perfect, I don't claim to be perfect, but one thing I am an expert on is myself.
• 31:43
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: We're all experts on ourselves.
• 31:45
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: And so, just like I'm sharing my thoughts, my feelings about good faith, information that I was and had gathered, I stepped up, I stepped forward and being a light for up, I stepped forward and being a light for you, for others, against falsehoods, false allegations, coercion, false allegations, coercion from others Saying well, you, this is happening and that's happening.
• 32:41
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, the only thing I can do is talk about, through my good faith and my understanding of facts and of information, and then I can give my thoughts, my opinions, my feelings under that first amendment, a free speech as a United States of American citizen for 43 plus years or since I was born.
• 33:18
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So, lastly, I want to say God bless you, god bless everybody here in the United States, god bless everybody across the world, everybody, especially, god bless all of humanity.
• 33:50
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Until next time, please be a voice for you or somebody in need.
• 33:55
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Check out our catalog, go ahead and again go back to episode 266 and you'll start to hear that pattern that we talked a little bit about, or quite a bit about, today.
• 34:11
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: So the pattern has emerged and I hope I've been some form of inspiration If you'd love to be a guest on our show.
• 34:27
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: Please reach out.
• 34:29
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: We'd love to have you and thank you for all you do as a person, as a human.
• 34:40
  Voices for VoicesⓇ, Justin Alan Hayes: We're all in this together and we want to have justice for victims.