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- 0:06Speaker 1: Shortly before midnight on July the 22nd, 1991, two Milwaukee
- 0:11Speaker 1: police officers were flagged down in their patrol car by
- 0:15Speaker 1: a man with a pair of handcuffs dangling from one wrist.
- 0:19Speaker 1: The police had no idea that this bizarre encounter would
- 0:23Speaker 1: lead to the arrest of one of the most prolific
- 0:26Speaker 1: serial killers in U.S.
- 0:28Speaker 2: History.
- 0:29Speaker 3: That night, people were afraid. People were whispering under their breaths,
- 0:34Speaker 3: you know, it was the devil.
- 0:36Speaker 1: The man had escaped from a small one-bedroom apartment on
- 0:40Speaker 1: North 25th Street. When the officers went to investigate, they
- 0:44Speaker 1: found themselves in a living nightmare.
- 0:47Speaker 4: They saw the body parts and then one of the
- 0:49Speaker 4: officers said he heard a scream. Then he realized later
- 0:51Speaker 4: he was the one who screamed when he saw the body.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Without detection, 31-year-old Jeffrey Dahmer had killed 17 young men
- 0:59Speaker 1: across a 13-year period.
- 1:01Speaker 5: He hasn't got the same level of repulsion and shock
- 1:05Speaker 5: at dead bodies or mutilated bodies that most of us have.
- 1:09Speaker 6: It was just another aspect of his life.
- 1:11Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer had etched his name in history as one
- 1:15Speaker 1: of the world's most evil killers. The name Jeffrey Dahmer
- 1:40Speaker 1: has become synonymous with evil. Between 1978 and 1991, he
- 1:46Speaker 1: killed 17 young men and boys by drugging them before
- 1:50Speaker 1: strangling them to death. As the revelations of the murders
- 1:53Speaker 1: came to light, it was the behaviour of Dahmer once
- 1:57Speaker 1: he'd killed his victims that really stunned the world, with
- 2:01Speaker 1: stories of necrophilia and cannibalism. The first journalist to arrive
- 2:06Speaker 1: at the crime scene was Annie Schwartz.
- 2:09Speaker 7: It wasn't a gory crime scene. It was really quite antiseptic.
- 2:13Speaker 3: It was a very simple one-bedroom with a kitchen and
- 2:17Speaker 3: a living room, and it looked like a regular single
- 2:21Speaker 3: guy lived there. There were some dishes in the sink,
- 2:24Speaker 3: but by and large, this was not some chamber of
- 2:27Speaker 3: horrors like people will describe it. Certainly not at first look.
- 2:32Speaker 3: Once detectives and officers started searching further, that's when they
- 2:37Speaker 3: found out the actual horror was in that apartment.
- 2:41Speaker 1: The story of this macabre killer begins 30 years before
- 2:45Speaker 1: his arrest. Jeffrey Dahmer was born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, on
- 2:51Speaker 1: May 21, 1960. The family moved to Iowa before settling
- 2:53Speaker 1: in Ohio in 1966. He lived with his parents.
- 3:02Speaker 8: Who were constantly, constantly, as he put it, at each
- 3:06Speaker 8: other's throats. You know, his mother appeared to have been,
- 3:10Speaker 8: you know, this raging bundle of neurotic behavior. The parents
- 3:15Speaker 8: were constantly fighting and screaming. And, you know, Dahmer himself evidently,
- 3:21Speaker 8: throughout much of his early life, was completely, completely ignored
- 3:25Speaker 8: by both of them. They were so caught up in
- 3:27Speaker 8: their own psychological turmoil.
- 3:32Speaker 5: Jeffrey Dahmer never really made close social links with any
- 3:36Speaker 5: of his peers.
- 3:37Speaker 6: He was a little bit odd.
- 3:39Speaker 5: And if you speak to his school friends at the time,
- 3:42Speaker 5: he didn't seem to have a lot of empathy for
- 3:45Speaker 5: other children. So when children would fall over in the
- 3:47Speaker 5: playground or get hurt or cry, he didn't appear to
- 3:50Speaker 5: be affected by that and would sometimes laugh at them.
- 3:54Speaker 5: So something wasn't quite right with.
- 3:56Speaker 6: A young Jeffrey Dahmer.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Feeling ostracised by his family and classmates, Dahmer spent a
- 4:04Speaker 1: lot of time playing alone in the woods surrounding his
- 4:07Speaker 1: Ohio home.
- 4:08Speaker 5: Well, he had a really morbid curiosity with death from
- 4:11Speaker 5: quite a young age, and this started with a fairly
- 4:14Speaker 5: innocent insect collection, and he would keep the bodies of
- 4:18Speaker 5: insects inside jars full of chemicals.
- 4:21Speaker 6: This soon progressed. He would go fishing.
- 4:24Speaker 5: And he was interested in what the fish looked like
- 4:26Speaker 5: on the inside. So he would chop up the fish
- 4:28Speaker 5: to have a look at this.
- 4:31Speaker 3: Dahmer took his fish and cut it open. He was
- 4:34Speaker 3: fascinated with the inside of the fish. And one of
- 4:39Speaker 3: his little friends asked him, Jeffrey, why do you, what
- 4:42Speaker 3: are you doing? And he said, just look at it.
- 4:46Speaker 8: You know, and this, you know, escalates, you know, to
- 4:49Speaker 8: the point that it's, you know, he's apparently killing stray
- 4:53Speaker 8: dogs and you know, decapitating them.
- 4:56Speaker 5: One of the young boys in the neighborhood was walking
- 4:58Speaker 5: in the woods behind Dharma's house when Dharma was a teenager,
- 5:02Speaker 5: and he came across the body of a dead dog,
- 5:05Speaker 5: and it was mutilated, and it was nailed to a tree.
- 5:08Speaker 8: So there's some early interest in animal anatomy that blossoms
- 5:15Speaker 8: into this very, very dark obsession and then somehow becomes
- 5:21Speaker 8: tangled up with his own sexuality.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Dahmer continued to struggle to fit in at high school
- 5:28Speaker 1: and turned to alcohol from a young age.
- 5:31Speaker 5: Well, Dahmer started drinking when he was at school. One
- 5:34Speaker 5: of his former classmates remembered that he used to come
- 5:36Speaker 5: in with a cup and he didn't have tea or
- 5:39Speaker 5: coffee in this cup. He had scotch whiskey in it.
- 5:42Speaker 5: So this was quite a disturbing behaviour for a teenager.
- 5:46Speaker 3: There's a thought that, in hindsight, you ask why more
- 5:50Speaker 3: people didn't try to intervene. You've got a kid coming
- 5:53Speaker 3: drunk to school. But back in the 70s, when Dahmer's
- 5:57Speaker 3: coming to school intoxicated, nobody thinks, gee, we better make
- 6:01Speaker 3: sure we take care of this, because what if he
- 6:04Speaker 3: turns out to be a serial killer?
- 6:07Speaker 1: In the summer of 1978, Dahmer's parents finally divorced.
- 6:12Speaker 5: The breakdown of Jeffrey Dahmer's parents' marriage was quite a
- 6:15Speaker 5: tough time for him. His parents were at each other's throats.
- 6:19Speaker 5: It was not an amicable divorce at all, and And
- 6:21Speaker 5: each of them was forcing him to side with them.
- 6:24Speaker 5: So he felt very much torn between his parents. So
- 6:28Speaker 5: this was a real source of conflict for him. And
- 6:31Speaker 5: I think at this time, children often who have these
- 6:34Speaker 5: experiences will retreat into themselves. They will preoccupy themselves with
- 6:38Speaker 5: things that they're interested in and will lose themselves in
- 6:41Speaker 5: their own fantasy world. And I think that's very much
- 6:44Speaker 5: what happened with Dharma.
- 6:45Speaker 1: Having just recently graduated from high school, Dharma soon had
- 6:49Speaker 1: no-one around him at all.
- 6:51Speaker 6: Well, in 1978, Jeffrey Dharma was 18.
- 6:54Speaker 5: His mother had gone away with his younger brother and
- 6:57Speaker 5: his father was living in a hotel. So he's alone
- 7:01Speaker 5: and he's ruminating and he's fantasising and things are going
- 7:05Speaker 5: to take a turn for the worse quite soon after this.
- 7:09Speaker 1: On June the 18th, 1978, Dahmer's fantasy world collided with
- 7:15Speaker 1: the real one when he pulled over to pick up
- 7:17Speaker 1: a 19-year-old hitchhiker called Stephen Hicks.
- 7:21Speaker 8: Dahmer picked him up and invited him back to his
- 7:24Speaker 8: house to have some drinks and I guess.
- 7:26Speaker 9: Maybe smoke some dope.
- 7:28Speaker 3: They were in the basement of his parents' home. They
- 7:31Speaker 3: had had sex and then Stephen Hicks wanted to leave.
- 7:36Speaker 3: And that was when Dahmer just wanted so badly to
- 7:39Speaker 3: have company. Sounds like such a textbook psychological thing, you know,
- 7:44Speaker 3: abandonment syndrome, but this was at the heart of what
- 7:48Speaker 3: made him so needy for company.
- 7:51Speaker 8: And then when the guy said he wanted to leave,
- 7:53Speaker 8: Dahmer clubbed him on the back of the head with
- 7:55Speaker 8: a barbell and then strangled him, then ultimately disposed of
- 8:00Speaker 8: the body, removed all the flesh, and eventually dissolved it
- 8:05Speaker 8: in acid.
- 8:07Speaker 9: And pulverize the bones with a sledgehammer.
- 8:10Speaker 5: This is a really, really brutal crime, and he disposes
- 8:15Speaker 5: of the body parts in the woods behind his house,
- 8:17Speaker 5: and that's a really symbolic place for Jeffrey Dahmer, because
- 8:20Speaker 5: this is a place where he's dismembered animals before, where
- 8:23Speaker 5: he's displayed mutilated dogs on tree trunks.
- 8:26Speaker 6: So we're seeing that this place is special to him.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Dahmer had experienced taking the life of another human for
- 8:33Speaker 1: the first time.
- 8:38Speaker 5: I think that the first murder is a real milestone
- 8:41Speaker 5: for Jeffrey Dahmer. So he knows now that he's capable
- 8:45Speaker 5: of this. He knows that he's capable of taking someone
- 8:47Speaker 5: else's life. So it's not just a fantasy anymore. It's
- 8:51Speaker 5: now a reality. He's gone from harming animals to harming people,
- 8:55Speaker 5: and he's not going to stop.
- 8:56Speaker 10: He's not desperate, but he becomes accustomed to it.
- 9:00Speaker 6: He becomes ready to.
- 9:02Speaker 10: Kill again and just kill and kill and kill and
- 9:05Speaker 10: kill until he gets caught.
- 9:07Speaker 1: But it wasn't until 13 years later in August 1991
- 9:11Speaker 1: that Dahmer was finally apprehended after one of his potential
- 9:16Speaker 1: victims escaped from his Milwaukee apartment. Once in custody, Dahmer
- 9:21Speaker 1: confessed to killing 17 young men and boys. The man
- 9:26Speaker 1: whose job it was to prosecute the relentless killer was
- 9:29Speaker 1: Milwaukee District Attorney Mike McCann.
- 9:32Speaker 10: The word evil doesn't come up very often. It just doesn't. Guilty,
- 9:35Speaker 10: not guilty. Did he do it? Didn't he do it? Culpability, yes.
- 9:38Speaker 4: But not often evil, because evil is almost a moral issue.
- 9:42Speaker 4: That word came up with Dahmer. You couldn't help see
- 9:44Speaker 4: what he did. Innocent people, strangers, to take for a
- 9:49Speaker 4: couple of hours of sex, to take a human being's life.
- 9:52Speaker 10: That's so evil. So evil.
- 9:55Speaker 1: Dahmer's case made headlines across the world after the details
- 9:59Speaker 1: of his Christendom. confession were leaked.
- 10:01Speaker 4: A New York Times reporter compromised the integrity of a
- 10:04Speaker 4: worker at our building and got a copy of the confession.
- 10:07Speaker 4: It was a detailed 38-page confession, so the details of
- 10:10Speaker 4: the gory things he had done again captured people's interest.
- 10:15Speaker 10: So that's how it rapidly became a matter.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Of The confession outlined the life of a deranged serial killer.
- 10:23Speaker 1: After murdering Stephen Hicks and desecrating his body in 1978,
- 10:29Speaker 1: Dahmer didn't kill again for nine years. After dropping out
- 10:33Speaker 1: of Ohio State University after just one semester, he was
- 10:37Speaker 1: spending most of his days drinking until his father urged
- 10:41Speaker 1: him to enlist in the US Army.
- 10:44Speaker 5: The alcohol continued as a theme when he joined the
- 10:47Speaker 5: army and he moved to Germany. One of his former
- 10:51Speaker 5: colleagues remembers him just sitting in his room drinking gin
- 10:54Speaker 5: all day long, not even leaving his room to eat.
- 10:57Speaker 5: So there was a real dependency on alcohol.
- 11:03Speaker 1: In 1981, 21-year-old Dahmer was discharged from the army after
- 11:07Speaker 1: his drinking rendered him incapable of serving. After spending a
- 11:11Speaker 1: month sleeping rough on the beaches of Florida, he returned
- 11:15Speaker 1: to Ohio. But his father had had enough and shipped
- 11:19Speaker 1: him off to start a new life in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
- 11:23Speaker 8: He was sent to live with his grandmother, who was
- 11:25Speaker 8: the one adult apparently he had, you know, something approaching,
- 11:29Speaker 8: you know, a normal affection for.
- 11:31Speaker 9: I was there. He really embarked on this career of horror.
- 11:36Speaker 1: By 1986, Dahmer had been arrested a couple of times
- 11:40Speaker 1: for exposing himself in public once in front of a
- 11:43Speaker 1: group of children. The hopeless alcoholic had managed to find
- 11:48Speaker 1: work at a local chocolate factory in Milwaukee and was
- 11:52Speaker 1: frequenting gay bars and bathhouses.
- 11:55Speaker 5: I think being homosexual affected Dahmer in two ways. Firstly,
- 11:59Speaker 5: it was a source of shame for him because it
- 12:02Speaker 5: was quite a stigmatised social identity at the time. But
- 12:05Speaker 5: also it enabled him an opportunity when it came to
- 12:09Speaker 5: his killing behavior. So being homosexual at this time, it
- 12:13Speaker 5: was something that happened in the shadows. It was something
- 12:15Speaker 5: that happened underground. And this was the ideal place for
- 12:18Speaker 5: someone like him to go hunting.
- 12:20Speaker 1: It was this exposure to the gay scene that seemed
- 12:23Speaker 1: to reawaken the dark sexual urges inside of him. And
- 12:28Speaker 1: by September 1987, over nine years since the murder of
- 12:32Speaker 1: Stephen Hicks, Jeffrey Dahmer was ready to kill again.
- 12:36Speaker 3: His idea was to drug people and keep them with
- 12:40Speaker 3: him so that they wouldn't answer back to him, they
- 12:43Speaker 3: wouldn't argue with him, they wouldn't fight him.
- 12:45Speaker 7: They would stay with him. That's what he wanted. He
- 12:48Speaker 7: wanted companionship.
- 12:50Speaker 3: So he would go to the bars on Milwaukee's near
- 12:53Speaker 3: south side, and he would have conversations with people in
- 12:56Speaker 3: these bars. And when he was talking to these people,
- 12:58Speaker 3: these prospective victims, he would say, so what was it
- 13:03Speaker 3: like when you came out? How was your family about it?
- 13:06Speaker 3: So if your response was, oh, my family has been great,
- 13:09Speaker 3: they're so supportive, I'm very close to my parents, that
- 13:13Speaker 3: person wasn't going to be a victim. But if the
- 13:15Speaker 3: person answered, my parents aren't speaking to me anymore, I'm
- 13:20Speaker 3: estranged from my family. I'm kind of on my own now.
- 13:24Speaker 3: That was the perfect victim for Jeffrey Dahmer because he
- 13:27Speaker 3: wanted to choose people who wouldn't be missed.
- 13:31Speaker 1: Between September 1987 and March 1988, Dahmer killed three men,
- 13:37Speaker 1: the youngest a 14-year-old boy who he paid to pose
- 13:41Speaker 1: for nude photographs before drugging and strangling him to death.
- 13:46Speaker 1: He would dissolve the bodies in acid.
- 13:48Speaker 4: He cleverly developed a program to destroy the bodies, get
- 13:51Speaker 4: rid of the bodies, left no evidence.
- 13:53Speaker 10: This was a very clever killer, very clever killer.
- 13:57Speaker 2: Dharma would dissolve his victims, presumably to make it easier
- 14:02Speaker 2: to dispose of them. Dissolving tissue and chemicals can certainly
- 14:07Speaker 2: interfere with identifying it as human tissue. It'll interfere with DNA.
- 14:11Speaker 2: You're really left predominantly with skeletal remains to try and
- 14:15Speaker 2: identify features such as age, sex, race.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Adama murdered two of the victims at his grandmother's house
- 14:22Speaker 1: where he was living.
- 14:24Speaker 8: His grandmother became aware that he was bringing these young
- 14:27Speaker 8: guys back to her house. I mean, she fought for
- 14:31Speaker 8: gay sex. Obviously, she had no inkling of the atrocities
- 14:35Speaker 8: he was committing on their bodies, although she was complaining
- 14:39Speaker 8: also about a foul odor that she noticed.
- 14:42Speaker 1: On September 25th, 1988, Dahmer moved into his own apartment
- 14:47Speaker 1: on North 25th Street in Milwaukee and didn't wait long
- 14:51Speaker 1: before attacking again. The very next day, September 26th, he
- 14:57Speaker 1: enticed a 13-year-old boy back to his home and drugged him.
- 15:01Speaker 2: One of the methods that Dahmer used to subdue his
- 15:04Speaker 2: victims was to use benzodiazepines, the same family of drugs
- 15:09Speaker 2: as Valium. He'd put them in drinks. That would make
- 15:12Speaker 2: you woozy, sleepy, and then eventually go unconscious.
- 15:17Speaker 1: Dahmer sexually assaulted the boy, but somehow, possibly due to
- 15:22Speaker 1: Dahmer passing out drunk, the 13-year-old escaped and went to
- 15:26Speaker 1: the police. In January 1989, he was convicted of sexual assault,
- 15:33Speaker 1: but the sentencing was delayed until May, during which time
- 15:37Speaker 1: an unrelenting Dahmer unbeknownst to the authorities, managed to claim
- 15:42Speaker 1: a fifth victim. The 29-year-old served ten months in prison,
- 15:47Speaker 1: but when he was released in March 1990, he picked
- 15:51Speaker 1: up right where he left off.
- 15:54Speaker 5: So Jeffrey Dahmer really did ramp up his offending. The
- 15:58Speaker 5: scale and the nature of his behaviour became all the
- 16:02Speaker 5: more grotesque. So he wasn't just killing people, dismembering them,
- 16:06Speaker 5: and then... disposing of their bodies, he started to do
- 16:10Speaker 5: some really bizarre things.
- 16:12Speaker 8: He was in the process of constructing some hideously diabolical
- 16:19Speaker 8: shrine in his bedroom out of the skulls and skeletons of.
- 16:24Speaker 9: Some of his victims.
- 16:26Speaker 8: It's almost as though some bizarre, archaic thing had broken through,
- 16:33Speaker 8: and he was performing or creating some sort of ancient,
- 16:39Speaker 8: you know, human sacrificial temple in this little Milwaukee apartment.
- 16:49Speaker 1: In 1990, Dahmer killed another four young men.
- 16:52Speaker 9: His M.O.
- 16:53Speaker 1: Was becoming more and more polished.
- 16:56Speaker 3: He would offer his victims money to go back to
- 16:59Speaker 3: his apartment with him to take pictures, nude photographs of them,
- 17:04Speaker 3: and then perhaps to have sex. Every single one of
- 17:08Speaker 3: his victims went with him willingly. He would offer them
- 17:12Speaker 3: a drink, and once he found out what they wanted
- 17:15Speaker 3: to drink, he kept a lot of things on hand,
- 17:18Speaker 3: different kinds of alcohol, and that's when he would put
- 17:21Speaker 3: a drug in it that would put them to sleep
- 17:24Speaker 3: or that would relax them so that they would pass out.
- 17:27Speaker 10: They would pass out.
- 17:28Speaker 4: He would then have sex with them while they were
- 17:29Speaker 4: passed out. Do with them as he wished, but of
- 17:31Speaker 4: course they couldn't do to him. Then as they approached recovery,
- 17:34Speaker 4: coming out of it, he was strangled to death.
- 17:36Speaker 1: It seemed as though Dahmer got a thrill, not from
- 17:39Speaker 1: the murder, but from the dead bodies of his victims.
- 17:43Speaker 4: Dahmer liked necrophilia. He liked sex with unconscious people. He
- 17:47Speaker 4: wasn't a slasher in the sense that he took delight
- 17:50Speaker 4: in killing. His purpose was sex with these people, company
- 17:53Speaker 4: with these people. That's hard to believe.
- 17:56Speaker 8: He would commit necrophiliac sex acts on the corpses, dismember
- 18:01Speaker 8: the corpses, dissolve parts of the bodies in these vats
- 18:04Speaker 8: of acid he had, keep certain organs in his refrigerator,
- 18:08Speaker 8: some of which he would actually cannibalize.
- 18:12Speaker 3: Dahmer said that the cannibalism that he engaged in was
- 18:15Speaker 3: born out of a curiosity. He wanted to find out,
- 18:20Speaker 3: first of all, what that would be like. He also said...
- 18:23Speaker 3: that there was an element of wanting to make these
- 18:26Speaker 3: people a part of him so they would be with
- 18:29Speaker 3: him forever.
- 18:30Speaker 8: Dahmer, from the beginning, you know, was driven by this
- 18:35Speaker 8: terror of being alone. He said he killed his first victim,
- 18:39Speaker 8: Stephen Hicks, when Hicks said he had to go, and
- 18:42Speaker 8: Dahmer didn't want to be alone. There was some desire,
- 18:45Speaker 8: which is part of normal sexuality. You know, you love somebody,
- 18:49Speaker 8: you know, somebody will say, oh, I love you so much,
- 18:51Speaker 8: I want to eat you up, with love. Normal people,
- 18:54Speaker 8: that's obviously metaphorical, but it does express some desire to
- 18:59Speaker 8: be so close to the person that you want to
- 19:01Speaker 8: incorporate them into, you want to merge with them. With
- 19:05Speaker 8: somebody like Dahmer, that becomes this very literal horror.
- 19:09Speaker 1: And the horror only became worse when Dahmer began experimenting
- 19:14Speaker 1: with his semi-conscious victims.
- 19:16Speaker 3: He would drill holes in their skulls and put muriatic
- 19:20Speaker 3: acid inside to see if he could get them to
- 19:23Speaker 3: a zombie state so that that he could keep them
- 19:27Speaker 3: alive and subservient to him it's.
- 19:31Speaker 2: Essentially an amateur version of attempting to perform a lobectomy
- 19:36Speaker 2: or a lobotomy but it would be an incredibly unpleasant
- 19:39Speaker 2: and damaging thing to do to someone's brain if you
- 19:43Speaker 2: affect the frontal lobes you will affect personality potentially make
- 19:46Speaker 2: somebody docile if he's less accurate you've essentially cause a
- 19:51Speaker 2: stroke that could cause paralysis speech problems it really very
- 19:55Speaker 2: much depends on which part of the brain is actually.
- 19:58Speaker 3: Damaged but of course that didn't work and his victims
- 20:02Speaker 3: died one after another hearing about that.
- 20:08Speaker 7: Is the stuff of horror movies.
- 20:11Speaker 3: And the fact that it was happening in a city
- 20:14Speaker 3: where we were known for manufacturing.
- 20:18Speaker 7: And beer and a very.
- 20:20Speaker 3: Good Midwestern work ethic, tight families, this isn't the kind
- 20:25Speaker 3: of thing that happens here.
- 20:28Speaker 1: In May 1991, 31-year-old Jeffrey Dahmer was in his killing prime.
- 20:34Speaker 1: He'd already murdered 11 men and had begun collecting bones
- 20:39Speaker 1: and skulls from his victims and cannibalising their organs. What
- 20:44Speaker 1: would have been a nightmare for most was a fantasy
- 20:47Speaker 1: for him, and he carefully went about his killings under
- 20:51Speaker 1: the radar of the police and the people of Milwaukee.
- 20:55Speaker 5: Jeffrey Dahmer had a job in a local chocolate factory
- 20:58Speaker 5: And I think for him, it enabled him to maintain
- 21:01Speaker 5: a facade of normality. He was just an average Joe,
- 21:04Speaker 5: a regular guy who went to work every day.
- 21:06Speaker 3: I think he killed so many people without being caught
- 21:09Speaker 3: because of the fact that he looked like everyone else.
- 21:13Speaker 3: He did what successful serial killers do.
- 21:16Speaker 7: He blended. They blend in with society.
- 21:19Speaker 3: Now, he was a Caucasian male living in a predominantly
- 21:23Speaker 3: African-American neighborhood, but he didn't talk to anybody. He didn't
- 21:27Speaker 3: bother anybody. He was barely someone people noticed. Barely noticed.
- 21:34Speaker 3: He also was targeting people who he found out might
- 21:40Speaker 3: not be missed.
- 21:41Speaker 5: For most people, if they were to commit the type
- 21:44Speaker 5: of acts that Jeffrey Dahmer did, they would in no
- 21:46Speaker 5: way be able to function normally. But Jeffrey Dahmer was
- 21:49Speaker 5: not most people. He hasn't got the same level of
- 21:53Speaker 5: repulsion and shock at dead bodies or mutilated bodies that
- 21:57Speaker 5: most of us have. It was just another aspect of
- 22:00Speaker 5: his life.
- 22:01Speaker 4: It was not known that we had a serial slayer
- 22:03Speaker 4: loose in our city. We did not know because he
- 22:05Speaker 4: was so cleverly disposing of the bodies. The families were
- 22:08Speaker 4: reporting the sons were missing, but the police were not
- 22:10Speaker 4: finding bodies. And not infrequently, young men, something happens in
- 22:13Speaker 4: their life, they just up and leave town. It happens
- 22:16Speaker 4: enough that the police don't get worried. If it was
- 22:18Speaker 4: a woman, they'll immediately commit resources to investigate, but the
- 22:21Speaker 4: young men, they don't.
- 22:22Speaker 1: But on May the 26th, 1991, Dahmer came agonizingly close
- 22:28Speaker 1: to capture after an encounter with a 14-year-old boy.
- 22:33Speaker 3: Dahmer had taken Conorac's Synthesim phone, a young Asian male
- 22:38Speaker 3: who he found attractive. He met him in the mall,
- 22:41Speaker 3: offered him money to go back to his apartment.
- 22:44Speaker 7: He went and he began to worked the ritual.
- 22:48Speaker 3: Dahmer would drug him, and then he began the process
- 22:53Speaker 3: of this crude lobotomy, and he had drilled a hole
- 22:57Speaker 3: in this young man's head. He took a break, he
- 23:00Speaker 3: ran out to get more beer. While he was gone,
- 23:04Speaker 3: Conorac ran out of the apartment. He was naked, he
- 23:07Speaker 3: was completely dazed, and he was running up the alley
- 23:10Speaker 3: next to Dahmer's apartment building.
- 23:12Speaker 7: A woman in another apartment building.
- 23:16Speaker 3: Saw him running up the alley and said, there's a
- 23:20Speaker 3: boy running up the alley, something's going on, and then
- 23:24Speaker 3: these women called the police.
- 23:26Speaker 9: And then Dahmer appeared.
- 23:27Speaker 8: And again, this is another, like, remarkable characteristic of these
- 23:31Speaker 8: psychopaths is that they have an ability to maintain, you know,
- 23:37Speaker 8: a kind of coolness under the most extraordinarily high-pressure circumstances.
- 23:45Speaker 3: So he walked up to the officers, good evening officers.
- 23:48Speaker 7: He's very polite. He's sober.
- 23:51Speaker 3: And he said, this is my boyfriend. He came to
- 23:54Speaker 3: stay with me. We had a little bit too much
- 23:56Speaker 3: to drink.
- 23:57Speaker 7: And he ran out of the house. He said, how
- 24:00Speaker 7: old is he? Dahmer said, he's 19.
- 24:04Speaker 3: And the officers said, OK, well, just to make sure,
- 24:08Speaker 3: let's all walk back up to the apartment together.
- 24:11Speaker 8: The cops went in and looked around. They even peeked
- 24:13Speaker 8: into the bedroom where there was a decomposing corpse of
- 24:16Speaker 8: one of Dahmer's previous victims. But, you know, they took
- 24:19Speaker 8: such a cursory look at it that they didn't even
- 24:21Speaker 8: notice it.
- 24:23Speaker 1: Assuming the couple were having a lover's tiff, the two
- 24:26Speaker 1: police officers left Konorak alone with Dahmer in the apartment building.
- 24:31Speaker 1: And in the early hours of the morning, he murdered
- 24:34Speaker 1: the 14-year-old boy. An opportunity to catch the killer had
- 24:38Speaker 1: been missed.
- 24:39Speaker 5: I think that really speaks volumes about the attitudes of
- 24:42Speaker 5: the police at the time in terms of ethnic minorities,
- 24:45Speaker 5: in terms of young people, in terms of.
- 24:47Speaker 6: The gay community.
- 24:49Speaker 5: And that was another victim that could potentially have been saved.
- 24:54Speaker 6: So there's this.
- 24:55Speaker 5: Terrible thing going on behind closed doors and people just
- 24:58Speaker 5: aren't seeing it.
- 24:59Speaker 6: People aren't wanting to see it.
- 25:01Speaker 5: Even the police are not joining up the dots and
- 25:04Speaker 5: and finding out what's really going on. So this is
- 25:06Speaker 5: allowed to just bubble away and get worse.
- 25:09Speaker 1: After evading capture, Dharma was free to continue.
- 25:14Speaker 5: There was two sides, really, to Dharma's pleasure that he
- 25:17Speaker 5: got from killing his victims. So he was a sadist
- 25:20Speaker 5: who enjoys the pain and suffering of other people, and
- 25:23Speaker 5: with sadists, that thrill ends when the victim dies. But
- 25:27Speaker 5: Dharma was also something of a necrophiliac who was interested
- 25:30Speaker 5: in having... corpses around and doing things with those corpses
- 25:35Speaker 5: and that means that the thrill starts with death so
- 25:38Speaker 5: he has this continuous fulfillment going on and he's always
- 25:41Speaker 5: fully in control and I think that's what's really at
- 25:44Speaker 5: the root of Jeffrey Dahmer it's power and it's control
- 25:47Speaker 5: and it's the feeling that that he has all this
- 25:49Speaker 5: knowledge about what he's done and nobody else quite knows
- 25:52Speaker 5: what he's up to.
- 25:54Speaker 1: By July 1991, Dahmer's desire to kill had become insatiable.
- 26:00Speaker 1: In just 16 days, he murdered four more men, bringing
- 26:04Speaker 1: his total number of victims to 17. But Dahmer's reign
- 26:08Speaker 1: of terror was about to come to an end. On
- 26:11Speaker 1: July the 22nd, he met a man called Tracy Edwards.
- 26:15Speaker 3: While they were together in the apartment, Dahmer threw a
- 26:20Speaker 3: handcuff on him.
- 26:22Speaker 7: This was now the beginning of his ritual.
- 26:25Speaker 3: Dahmer had taken photographs of his victims in various stages
- 26:28Speaker 3: of dismemberment, Polaroids. And those were sitting on the dresser
- 26:32Speaker 3: inside the bedroom. They weren't sitting out in the main
- 26:35Speaker 3: living room. But there was some speculation that Tracy Edwards
- 26:39Speaker 3: had perhaps seen that. And he ran out of the
- 26:43Speaker 3: apartment in his underwear, ran down the street. And when
- 26:47Speaker 3: he saw the police car, Tracy Edwards has said his
- 26:51Speaker 3: intention was just to get the handcuff off.
- 26:54Speaker 7: That's all he wanted. He stopped these cops to say, hey,
- 26:56Speaker 7: can you just get this off of me?
- 26:58Speaker 3: So he stopped and the officers start talking to him
- 27:02Speaker 3: about what he saw. And then they said, well, we
- 27:05Speaker 3: should probably check this out. Let's all go back to
- 27:08Speaker 3: the apartment.
- 27:09Speaker 7: Dahmer answered.
- 27:11Speaker 3: And the minute he saw that it was the police,
- 27:13Speaker 3: he tried to shut the door on them. The police
- 27:16Speaker 3: pushed the door open a bit. They started struggling with him.
- 27:19Speaker 3: And then finally, he just gave in. And that was
- 27:24Speaker 3: when Dahmer was officially finished. He was finished killing and
- 27:28Speaker 3: he knew that he was finished.
- 27:31Speaker 1: The police officers immediately arrested Dahmer after finding the remains
- 27:35Speaker 1: of some of his victims in his apartment.
- 27:38Speaker 4: They saw the body parts and then one of the
- 27:40Speaker 4: officers said he heard a scream. Then he realized later
- 27:42Speaker 4: he was the one who screamed when he saw the body.
- 27:44Speaker 4: So they knew they were dealing with a very serious offense.
- 27:46Speaker 4: Dahmer did not resist, a little slight resistance, but Dahmer
- 27:49Speaker 4: was taken into custody and the investigation was initiated.
- 27:52Speaker 1: What followed was an incredible media circus on Dahmer's doorstep
- 27:56Speaker 1: as unbelievable stories about what was being uncovered inside his
- 28:00Speaker 1: apartment were revealed.
- 28:02Speaker 3: It was so fantastical that you think people are making
- 28:07Speaker 3: it up when they're telling you the details. But as
- 28:10Speaker 3: it turned out, they weren't making it up. It was
- 28:13Speaker 3: all of the atrocities that we heard about that had
- 28:15Speaker 3: happened in that apartment really did happen.
- 28:18Speaker 4: The medical examiner who was called to the scene Didn't
- 28:21Speaker 4: know what was happening.
- 28:21Speaker 10: It was so strange.
- 28:22Speaker 4: There was a freezer there, bodies, parts in the freezer.
- 28:24Speaker 4: Called in a hazmat crew. Well, our television stations cover
- 28:28Speaker 4: the police radio. When they hear that, they dispatch crews there.
- 28:31Speaker 4: The first day was local television. Second day, national television.
- 28:35Speaker 4: By the third day, it was international television.
- 28:37Speaker 3: They were able to show video of these items coming
- 28:42Speaker 3: out of the front door of this apartment building that's
- 28:45Speaker 3: not usual at a crime scene.
- 28:47Speaker 7: Saw a large blue barrel.
- 28:49Speaker 3: In which we know that Jeffrey Dahmer was trying to
- 28:51Speaker 3: dissolve body parts.
- 28:53Speaker 7: It had a refrigerator that was.
- 28:55Speaker 3: Holding skulls, and also it was holding body parts. So
- 29:00Speaker 3: these were coming down the stairs, and people were just
- 29:04Speaker 3: incredulous to watch it. When I wrote the story for
- 29:07Speaker 3: the Milwaukee Journal that morning, and it was released in
- 29:11Speaker 3: the paper about 8 o'clock, I think, in the morning,
- 29:16Speaker 3: normally we were an afternoon paper, but we went out
- 29:18Speaker 3: early with it because it was such an incredible story.
- 29:21Speaker 1: But no one quite knew the enormity of the crimes
- 29:25Speaker 1: until Dahmer confessed to detectives at the local police station.
- 29:29Speaker 3: When I've spoken to the detectives that were working this case,
- 29:34Speaker 3: they have said this was not a great whodunit. This
- 29:38Speaker 3: would have been a whodunit if Jeffrey Dahmer hadn't confessed
- 29:41Speaker 3: to everything.
- 29:43Speaker 4: When Dahmer was arrested, there were already a number of
- 29:44Speaker 4: bodies in his quarters. He gave full confessions to the police,
- 29:48Speaker 4: detailing his involvement in 16 separate slayings. Most of the time,
- 29:53Speaker 4: he did not know the name of the victims.
- 29:55Speaker 3: When Dahmer remembered crime that he might not have shared
- 29:59Speaker 3: with the detectives, he would have the jail call him,
- 30:03Speaker 3: whether it was the middle of the night or the
- 30:04Speaker 3: middle of the day, and say, I remembered something else.
- 30:08Speaker 7: Please come over.
- 30:09Speaker 3: Dahmer had said he wanted to make sure that he
- 30:11Speaker 3: didn't forget anything because he wanted those families to have closure.
- 30:16Speaker 3: I'm not sure about that. That may be giving Jeffrey
- 30:20Speaker 3: Dahmer more credit than he is deserved, but he did
- 30:25Speaker 3: claim to want to try and remember so that all
- 30:28Speaker 3: of those families would have closure.
- 30:31Speaker 8: One of the interesting things about Dahmer that does differentiate
- 30:34Speaker 8: him from other killers of his breed is that he
- 30:38Speaker 8: did seem to be capable of a certain degree of
- 30:40Speaker 8: remorse and certainly recognized the extent of his depravity.
- 30:46Speaker 1: Although he confessed to killing 16 people in the state
- 30:49Speaker 1: of Wisconsin, Dahmer was first charged with four counts of
- 30:53Speaker 1: murder on 25 July 1991, and a further 11 counts
- 30:59Speaker 1: were added in August. The following month, investigators in Ohio
- 31:04Speaker 1: found teeth and bone fragments belonging to Stephen Hicks in
- 31:08Speaker 1: the woods near Dahmer's family home. A preliminary hearing was
- 31:12Speaker 1: set for January 1992. His legal team were going to
- 31:16Speaker 1: argue that the killings were the work of a madman.
- 31:19Speaker 4: The issue wasn't going to be did he do it
- 31:20Speaker 4: or not. The issue was going to be was he
- 31:22Speaker 4: sane or insane when he did it. And his hope
- 31:24Speaker 4: was that at least in even one of the cases
- 31:26Speaker 4: he could induce the jury to believe that he was insane.
- 31:28Speaker 4: Under those circumstances, he would be sentenced not to a
- 31:31Speaker 4: prison but to a mental health facility. People would say
- 31:33Speaker 4: to me, Mike, this guy killed 16 people. He was
- 31:37Speaker 4: drinking their blood, eating parts of their body. He must
- 31:40Speaker 4: have been crazy. It sounds like he's crazy to say that.
- 31:43Speaker 4: but that's not what the insanity rule is.
- 31:45Speaker 1: The city wanted justice. They wanted to see the man
- 31:49Speaker 1: the press were calling the Milwaukee Cannibal locked away in
- 31:53Speaker 1: prison for the horrific crimes he had committed. The trial
- 31:57Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Dahmer would be one of the biggest in
- 32:00Speaker 1: the history of not just Wisconsin, but the entire USA.
- 32:06Speaker 3: My reaction to it then was the same reaction I
- 32:09Speaker 3: think that everybody who lived in Milwaukee had. When they
- 32:13Speaker 3: heard about the case, no, can't be.
- 32:16Speaker 7: This is Milwaukee.
- 32:18Speaker 3: Those kinds of things don't happen here. This is the Midwest.
- 32:21Speaker 3: This is a very nice place.
- 32:25Speaker 1: The trial of Jeffrey Dahmer began on the 30th of January, 1992,
- 32:31Speaker 1: and had a front row seat.
- 32:32Speaker 3: The courtroom was an odd spectacle because court TV was
- 32:38Speaker 3: still new in the game back then. And the idea
- 32:44Speaker 3: that you would come to court and you'd be on
- 32:47Speaker 3: television was still kind of new to people. It was
- 32:52Speaker 3: the kind of media attention to a trial that Milwaukee
- 32:56Speaker 3: hadn't seen in a very, very long time, if ever.
- 33:00Speaker 3: I can remember so clearly the first time Jeffrey Dahmer's
- 33:03Speaker 3: initial appearance in court when he walked in. I think
- 33:07Speaker 3: the real fear that people had when they first saw
- 33:10Speaker 3: Jeffrey Dahmer... was that he looked like everybody else. He
- 33:14Speaker 3: was a good-looking young man, and he is not the
- 33:19Speaker 3: person that you would look at and say, stay away
- 33:22Speaker 3: from that guy.
- 33:23Speaker 1: It would be up to Milwaukee DA Mike McCann to
- 33:27Speaker 1: attempt to prove that Dahmer was sane and responsible for
- 33:31Speaker 1: his actions.
- 33:32Speaker 4: Guilty wasn't going to be an issue, but we wanted
- 33:34Speaker 4: the jury to know enough about the facts and so
- 33:36Speaker 4: did the defense to say, all right, what really happened here?
- 33:38Speaker 4: How atrocious was it? How planned was it? How was
- 33:40Speaker 4: he behaving? what skills were involved. He couldn't control himself.
- 33:45Speaker 3: It was a lot to take in because the testimony
- 33:49Speaker 3: was so graphic.
- 33:51Speaker 6: We all knew Mike McCann.
- 33:53Speaker 3: He was a religious man, and we've seen him in court.
- 33:59Speaker 7: He was a good attorney.
- 34:02Speaker 3: But the kinds of things that he was reciting out
- 34:04Speaker 3: of the criminal complaint and the confession.
- 34:08Speaker 7: Were unheard of. These things were unheard of. and they
- 34:12Speaker 7: happened right here in our city.
- 34:15Speaker 10: He did it quietly.
- 34:16Speaker 4: He concealed the bodies, cleverly concealed, destroyed the bodies, planned
- 34:20Speaker 4: it well, laid in the equipment, got the drugs that
- 34:22Speaker 4: he used, knowing that he worked, thought he was insane.
- 34:25Speaker 4: The way he conducted himself was in a way that
- 34:28Speaker 4: it seemed that he was sane, and that's what we
- 34:31Speaker 4: wanted to get across to the jury.
- 34:32Speaker 1: Mike employed the help of psychiatry expert Dr. Philip Resnick.
- 34:37Speaker 11: The more bizarre the crimes, such as involving cannibalism, the
- 34:42Speaker 11: more the lay public wants to think that guy had
- 34:45Speaker 11: to be out of his mind. But in looking at
- 34:47Speaker 11: it from the actual strict definition of insanity, generally the
- 34:53Speaker 11: diseases of paraphilias, like necrophilia, where someone has trouble controlling themselves,
- 35:00Speaker 11: are not viewed, for the most part, as diseases which
- 35:05Speaker 11: qualify for insanity because of the social implications. One of
- 35:10Speaker 11: the points that I made as a consultant is even
- 35:14Speaker 11: if you have necrophilia and even if you have trouble
- 35:18Speaker 11: controlling your impulse, the majority of necrophiliacs will select a
- 35:24Speaker 11: setting where they can accomplish this without homicide. So some
- 35:29Speaker 11: become assistants in morgues or assistants in pathology labs where
- 35:36Speaker 11: they may have access to dead victims. Others will actually
- 35:40Speaker 11: disinter bodies after they're buried so that one does not
- 35:45Speaker 11: have to actually kill to exercise the necrophilias impulse, and
- 35:51Speaker 11: that's one of the reasons I felt that he didn't
- 35:53Speaker 11: qualify for insanity.
- 35:54Speaker 1: The trial was essentially a debate between specialist psychiatrists about
- 35:59Speaker 1: the mental state of Dahmer, who sat watching the whole
- 36:03Speaker 1: thing play out over two weeks.
- 36:05Speaker 4: Dahmer was very calm in court. When you talk of
- 36:08Speaker 4: you assessing a person by what you see, no one
- 36:11Speaker 4: studying him would believe he was insane.
- 36:13Speaker 10: He was in calm.
- 36:13Speaker 4: He was watching what was going on. He wasn't reacting
- 36:16Speaker 4: in any negative way. He conducted himself in.
- 36:19Speaker 10: A very rational way, a very proper way.
- 36:21Speaker 4: This was a case to tell the world that I
- 36:25Speaker 4: did what I did not for reasons of hate.
- 36:27Speaker 9: I hated no one. I knew I was sick or
- 36:30Speaker 9: evil or both. Now I believe I was sick.
- 36:34Speaker 1: On February 15th, the jury had reached a verdict on
- 36:37Speaker 1: Dahmer's sanity.
- 36:39Speaker 11: Someone like Dahmer comes along who has never been in
- 36:42Speaker 11: a psychiatric hospital and alleges insanity. Juries are going to
- 36:47Speaker 11: be sceptical of it and then when it's all in
- 36:51Speaker 11: the form of his sexual drive rather than a traditional
- 36:56Speaker 11: psychosis where someone's out of touch with reality and he's
- 36:59Speaker 11: taking careful steps to cover his tracks, it's very difficult
- 37:03Speaker 11: to succeed. with insanity, with that type of case.
- 37:07Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer was ruled to be sane by the jury.
- 37:10Speaker 1: On February 17, 1992, Judge Lawrence Graham sentenced him to
- 37:15Speaker 1: life imprisonment for each of the 15 counts against him.
- 37:19Speaker 3: When the verdict was announced in court, there was a
- 37:22Speaker 3: great shout from the gallery, especially from the victims' families.
- 37:27Speaker 7: They cried.
- 37:28Speaker 10: I was pleased in the sense, happy, not exuberant.
- 37:32Speaker 4: But happy that this danger was removed from our community,
- 37:34Speaker 4: that the jury had not been hoodwinked, that the jury realized.
- 37:37Speaker 10: This chap was not insane.
- 37:39Speaker 1: The state of Wisconsin does not have the death penalty,
- 37:42Speaker 1: but Dahmer would have to serve a minimum of 936 years.
- 37:47Speaker 1: He was immediately sent to the Columbia Correctional Institute in Portage.
- 37:52Speaker 1: Three months later, on the 1st of May 1992 in Ohio,
- 37:56Speaker 1: Dahmer was also found guilty of murdering Stephen Hicks in
- 38:00Speaker 1: 1978 and given yet another life sentence.
- 38:04Speaker 3: Dahmer always said that he was compelled to kill that
- 38:08Speaker 3: they were urges he said i had urges that i
- 38:11Speaker 3: could not control he also said that even though he
- 38:15Speaker 3: was in prison he was relieved that the killing was
- 38:20Speaker 3: done he still had the urges they didn't go away
- 38:26Speaker 3: he was just in a place where he couldn't act
- 38:27Speaker 3: on them.
- 38:29Speaker 1: Locked away for the rest of his life dharma found
- 38:32Speaker 1: comfort in the bible And by 1994, he decided to
- 38:37Speaker 1: get baptized. The prison called on local minister Roy Ratcliffe.
- 38:42Speaker 12: So I was quite surprised to be escorted to a
- 38:44Speaker 12: little room and left alone. And then Jeff comes to
- 38:49Speaker 12: the room and he closes the door. And then there's
- 38:51Speaker 12: he and I sitting together across the table. And I'm
- 38:54Speaker 12: thinking for a moment, wow, I'm in a room with
- 38:57Speaker 12: a man who's killed several people. So, yeah, that was
- 38:59Speaker 12: a little bit disconcerting. But I was there for a
- 39:02Speaker 12: purpose and for a reason, so I wanted to find
- 39:04Speaker 12: out what was going on and see what I could.
- 39:06Speaker 1: Do to help.
- 39:07Speaker 12: So my fears were set aside primarily because of my
- 39:10Speaker 12: focus on what I was trying to do. Jeff was
- 39:13Speaker 12: a normal guy, courteous, very respectful to me. When we
- 39:17Speaker 12: shook hands, I noticed his hands were rather small. Looking
- 39:19Speaker 12: at his hands and thinking, wow, these are the hands
- 39:22Speaker 12: that strangled people, these are the hands that murdered people,
- 39:24Speaker 12: these are the hands that dismembered people.
- 39:27Speaker 1: On May the 10th, 1994, the same day that notorious
- 39:31Speaker 1: serial killer John Wayne Gacy was executed, Jeffrey Dahmer was
- 39:36Speaker 1: baptized in a prison bathtub.
- 39:39Speaker 12: Then the door opened and I walked into the room
- 39:41Speaker 12: and Jeff had already crawled into the tub and the
- 39:43Speaker 12: only thing that was above the water was just simply
- 39:45Speaker 12: his head. And so I baptized you in the name
- 39:48Speaker 12: of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit for the
- 39:50Speaker 12: forgiveness of your sins and pushed his head down under.
- 39:52Speaker 12: And then we came back up. I said something I
- 39:54Speaker 12: often say to people when I baptize them. I said,
- 39:56Speaker 12: welcome to the family of God. He said, well, thank
- 39:59Speaker 12: you very much.
- 40:00Speaker 1: But just six months after his baptism on November the 28th, 1994,
- 40:06Speaker 1: Dahmer and another convicted murderer, Jesse Anderson, were attacked and
- 40:11Speaker 1: killed by a fellow inmate.
- 40:13Speaker 7: Christopher Scarver.
- 40:15Speaker 3: Took a barbell, went into the bathroom, and beat both
- 40:19Speaker 3: Jeffrey Dahmer and Jesse Anderson to death. There were a
- 40:23Speaker 3: number of people who felt that Jeffrey Dahmer got exactly
- 40:27Speaker 3: what he deserved.
- 40:28Speaker 7: And I called his mother.
- 40:29Speaker 3: She said, well, now everybody got what they want.
- 40:32Speaker 7: The monster is dead. And then she said, he was
- 40:35Speaker 7: my son. He was my boy.
- 40:38Speaker 12: It was a terrible, terrible death in that sense there.
- 40:41Speaker 12: But for some people, it was a relief. They were
- 40:43Speaker 12: glad because all they could think about were the crimes
- 40:45Speaker 12: he committed. They're not thinking about what I'm thinking about.
- 40:48Speaker 12: Here's a person who's trying to serve God as best
- 40:50Speaker 12: as he can, and now his life is being taken
- 40:52Speaker 12: from him.
- 40:54Speaker 8: Some people see some sort of poetic symmetry in the
- 40:57Speaker 8: fact that Dahmer's first murder was the one in which
- 41:01Speaker 8: he bludgeoned the teenage hitchhiker Stephen Hicks to death with
- 41:06Speaker 8: a barbell, and that he himself died in a very,
- 41:09Speaker 8: very similar way.
- 41:12Speaker 1: The apartment on North 25th Street that housed Dahmer's macabre
- 41:16Speaker 1: collection of victims' remains and where 12 young men lost
- 41:20Speaker 1: their lives was demolished in November 1992. But Dahmer's twisted
- 41:26Speaker 1: legacy has been impossible.
- 41:28Speaker 10: To wipe out.
- 41:29Speaker 1: He has become one of the most infamous serial killers
- 41:33Speaker 1: in the world.
- 41:34Speaker 8: I think of Dahmer as sort of like the flip
- 41:36Speaker 8: side of somebody like Mozart. How do you account for
- 41:40Speaker 8: somebody creating that kind of music. Ultimately, how do you
- 41:43Speaker 8: account for somebody who is luring young men to his
- 41:47Speaker 8: apartment and drilling holes in their skull and injecting brains
- 41:51Speaker 8: with muriatic acid to turn them into zombies? There's something
- 41:54Speaker 8: there ultimately inexplicable.
- 41:57Speaker 3: Jeffrey Dahmer committed some of the most evil acts that
- 42:01Speaker 3: I have ever written about or heard about or seen
- 42:05Speaker 3: on a television show because they were real.
- 42:08Speaker 7: I don't know... if he was.
- 42:11Speaker 3: Sane or insane, because that's not my training to figure
- 42:15Speaker 3: that out. But I can absolutely say that he did
- 42:21Speaker 3: some of the most evil acts.
- 42:23Speaker 7: Known to man.
- 42:25Speaker 1: Dahmer's crimes would not feel out of place in a
- 42:27Speaker 1: perverse horror movie. He was a man who killed to
- 42:31Speaker 1: satisfy his unhealthy sexual perversions, keeping parts of his victims'
- 42:36Speaker 1: skeletons as trophies and eating their organs. Jeffrey Dahmer truly
- 42:41Speaker 1: is the stuff of nightmares and, unquestionably, one of the
- 42:45Speaker 1: world's most evil killers.