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- 0:00Speaker 1: The podcast network is called ero dot net A r
- 0:03Speaker 1: r oe dot net. It's twenty different podcasts to choose from.
- 0:08Speaker 1: One of the biggest ones is podcrashing. I talk with
- 0:11Speaker 1: podcasters all over the world. Not only are you going
- 0:15Speaker 1: to learn inside, behind the scene things about their podcast,
- 0:19Speaker 1: but you're going to learn something about doing a podcast.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we cover it all podcrashing only on ero
- 0:26Speaker 1: dot net A r r oe dot net. Enjoy that exploration. Hello,
- 0:32Speaker 1: and good morning Meredith. How are you doing today?
- 0:34Speaker 2: Good morning arrow On great, Thanks so much for having me.
- 0:37Speaker 3: Wow, love that energy.
- 0:38Speaker 1: That must mean you've read this book and you're exercising
- 0:40Speaker 1: everything that you planted in it.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Oh, tell my therapist that I'd love to hear that.
- 0:46Speaker 1: We've got to talk about the design of this book
- 0:48Speaker 1: because it is so perfectly sized that it goes into
- 0:51Speaker 1: any book bag or even a purse if they're carrying
- 0:54Speaker 1: purses nowadays. But more importantly, I got to tell you
- 0:57Speaker 1: I love the font. The font is so perfect because
- 1:00Speaker 1: when somebody needs to briefly find something to get me
- 1:02Speaker 1: a pick me up, to get something going on, they
- 1:04Speaker 1: can go right here and they're going to find it immediately.
- 1:07Speaker 1: So that's brilliant on your publisher.
- 1:10Speaker 2: They did a great job of all of that. The
- 1:12Speaker 2: design does it makes you just want to keep reading it.
- 1:15Speaker 2: It makes it easy to find things, and it's really
- 1:17Speaker 2: lovely to look at. It's just a beautiful design with
- 1:19Speaker 2: really lovely artist illustrations by the artist Nina Cospert.
- 1:24Speaker 3: I love it so many times.
- 1:25Speaker 1: People are always going, I'm looking for my purpose in life.
- 1:28Speaker 1: I don't have any plans. I think that you've hit
- 1:30Speaker 1: something here when you say that there are values, Okay,
- 1:33Speaker 1: do people because I never hear anybody talking about the values.
- 1:37Speaker 1: What is it that you're diving into with that so
- 1:39Speaker 1: we can get people a little bit more in touch
- 1:41Speaker 1: with that.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Well, what I'm diving into with that is the fact that,
- 1:45Speaker 2: like you know, when you're doing something, whether it's in
- 1:48Speaker 2: your career or in the way you're treating your friend
- 1:50Speaker 2: or whatever it is, you can kind of feel when
- 1:52Speaker 2: you're going against who you really want to be. It
- 1:55Speaker 2: doesn't feel great. I didn't feel great about how I
- 1:57Speaker 2: handled that, whatever it might be. And that's where we
- 2:01Speaker 2: were running up against your values. Like you might be
- 2:03Speaker 2: going against something that you really believe in, but at
- 2:07Speaker 2: the time you might not know that I didn't know
- 2:09Speaker 2: that all the time when I was younger, I just thought,
- 2:13Speaker 2: you know, this will get me out of trouble, or
- 2:15Speaker 2: this will fix this situation. But when you really check in,
- 2:18Speaker 2: think about what you think about things and what you
- 2:21Speaker 2: really do value in life, and how that shows up
- 2:23Speaker 2: in your life. When those things align, more often than not,
- 2:26Speaker 2: you're probably having a pretty good life.
- 2:28Speaker 1: You really do point to a very interesting place to
- 2:31Speaker 1: get information and our experience, and that is that we
- 2:33Speaker 1: should be pointing our energy toward the younger people because
- 2:36Speaker 1: I see them basically as goal setters. They just don't
- 2:39Speaker 1: know how to do it. But more importantly, you almost
- 2:41Speaker 1: feel like Alexa or Grock because I'm sitting here with
- 2:44Speaker 1: the experience, They're seeking some sort of information. Now, let's
- 2:47Speaker 1: work together and see if we can get up to
- 2:49Speaker 1: that next generation.
- 2:52Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. And frankly, we're the ones yet who
- 2:57Speaker 2: really need like to check in with ourselves. More like
- 3:01Speaker 2: I find when I'm when I'm when I'm having conversations
- 3:03Speaker 2: with young women, they are so expressive. They know so
- 3:07Speaker 2: much about mental health and the issues in the world
- 3:10Speaker 2: and problem solving and you know, activism and all kinds
- 3:13Speaker 2: of things. And sometimes we're the ones who have kind
- 3:15Speaker 2: of gone on autopilot and need to check in with
- 3:18Speaker 2: ourselves even more.
- 3:19Speaker 1: I love what you did with understand that everyone flops
- 3:23Speaker 1: and fumbles. It's a normal part of being a human.
- 3:25Speaker 1: And then there's no paragraph below that. It's almost like saying,
- 3:29Speaker 1: if you have a question, go back to the beginning
- 3:31Speaker 1: of this and start it all over again.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Understand that.
- 3:35Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, there's so many different things in
- 3:37Speaker 1: here that make you just go, my God, does this
- 3:39Speaker 1: person live with me?
- 3:40Speaker 3: And I just don't know it.
- 3:45Speaker 2: I'm so happy to hear you say that, because, Yeah,
- 3:47Speaker 2: I think we all need to need to hear all
- 3:49Speaker 2: of this, because we didn't have a toolbox when we
- 3:52Speaker 2: were you know, really, when our brains were so much
- 3:55Speaker 2: under construction and we were kind of dealing with the
- 3:57Speaker 2: emotional centers and stuff. We didn't have a lot of
- 3:59Speaker 2: knowledge to help us get through that in a way,
- 4:02Speaker 2: and we adapted a lot to it, and we still
- 4:04Speaker 2: have some of those things that we adapted to, and
- 4:06Speaker 2: so all of this kind of still reads true for me.
- 4:09Speaker 2: I'm always just my friends who read chapters and drafts
- 4:12Speaker 2: ahead of time, they said, oh my gosh, like let's
- 4:14Speaker 2: sit down and go through some of these together and
- 4:16Speaker 2: discuss it. My gosh, you know it's really helpful no
- 4:19Speaker 2: matter your age, I think.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Meredith Walker coming
- 4:23Speaker 1: up next, the name of her book, Be Yourself and
- 4:28Speaker 1: Other Bad Advice. Ooh, we've got to check back in
- 4:32Speaker 1: with Meredith Walker. I love that you put focus on
- 4:35Speaker 1: the power of positive thinking and speaking. But the problem is, though,
- 4:38Speaker 1: there's a lot of CEOs and department heads right now
- 4:41Speaker 1: that continuously look at me saying, put away mister happy.
- 4:44Speaker 1: I don't need mister happy today. I can't be the
- 4:47Speaker 1: only person that has to deal with this on a
- 4:49Speaker 1: daily basis.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you're not that is that's the thing
- 4:54Speaker 2: that's you know what. It's those CEOs and the leaders
- 4:58Speaker 2: and managers that need to read this book too, telling
- 5:00Speaker 2: you because you've got to tap into it's very easy
- 5:03Speaker 2: to find the thing that's not going well and it's fine. Yes,
- 5:06Speaker 2: that's worth identifying for sure, you know, and making repairs
- 5:10Speaker 2: or you know, working around it within yourself or within
- 5:13Speaker 2: a work situation or wherever it is, but not to
- 5:16Speaker 2: the detriment, not to making it so we never see
- 5:19Speaker 2: what is going right, who is being part of a solution,
- 5:22Speaker 2: What is making my life comfortable? What's going well? That's
- 5:26Speaker 2: happening all day every day, And if you only fixate
- 5:29Speaker 2: on the one thing that went wrong, that's when you're
- 5:31Speaker 2: going to be bummed out to much.
- 5:33Speaker 1: You know, you can balance it out, yeah, because we're
- 5:35Speaker 1: all so guilty of what my wife and I call
- 5:37Speaker 1: writing a story before it happens, and then when it happens,
- 5:40Speaker 1: it's like, oh God, that's not what I envisioned.
- 5:44Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. So you know, be mindful of
- 5:47Speaker 2: the story you're writing.
- 5:49Speaker 1: And another thing here that really kudos to you, and
- 5:51Speaker 1: you're right about this. When it comes to everybody on
- 5:54Speaker 1: the planet, it doesn't matter what age it is. You know,
- 5:56Speaker 1: it's people who sit there and scroll on that smartphone
- 6:00Speaker 1: over and over again, and then we all feel guilty afterwards. Now,
- 6:03Speaker 1: the way that I'm breaking that habit is personally, I'll
- 6:06Speaker 1: sit there and I'll grab a journal and I'll write
- 6:08Speaker 1: into it. Even if it's fake news. It doesn't matter,
- 6:10Speaker 1: it's not going anywhere. It's my journal, and I'll write
- 6:12Speaker 1: my little fake news. I'll do whatever so that this
- 6:14Speaker 1: way I don't have to go read somebody else's you know, clickbait.
- 6:19Speaker 2: That's right, and that's a really lovely and scientifically back
- 6:22Speaker 2: smart thing to do, just getting back like from there's
- 6:26Speaker 2: been studies that do that, talk about actually writing things down.
- 6:31Speaker 2: So what your brain has to do in order for
- 6:33Speaker 2: all of that to happen is a good break. It
- 6:35Speaker 2: shifts something for you. So that's a really smart way
- 6:37Speaker 2: to do it. And we do. And it's not even
- 6:40Speaker 2: just the relentlessness of the news. Like just the other day,
- 6:42Speaker 2: I was, you know, on Instagram when I got said
- 6:44Speaker 2: and ad it was about how a product I should
- 6:48Speaker 2: buy to fix the imperfections of my eyelids because of
- 6:51Speaker 2: a certain age, And I thought, we can't get eyelids, right, dude,
- 6:54Speaker 2: Like those can't be natural, Like what in the world.
- 6:58Speaker 2: So I thought, oh my god, I mean I didn't think.
- 6:59Speaker 2: I know, I know for a fact that what younger
- 7:02Speaker 2: people are getting hit with it's like every like their elbow,
- 7:05Speaker 2: every single part of their body. Could buy a cream
- 7:08Speaker 2: or an oortment to improve it or something, you know,
- 7:10Speaker 2: and we need to step away from that. We're doing fine,
- 7:13Speaker 2: We're great.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Oh my god, you are speaking my street, because that's
- 7:16Speaker 1: exactly it when people look at me and they start judging,
- 7:18Speaker 1: you know, they body damage me and stuff, and I'm
- 7:20Speaker 1: going to just shut up.
- 7:21Speaker 2: You know.
- 7:21Speaker 1: It's like you know, I you know, if you if
- 7:23Speaker 1: you've got a problem with me, go call my mom.
- 7:25Speaker 3: Let's see if she'll call you back.
- 7:30Speaker 1: But I do want you to know that I want
- 7:31Speaker 1: to add a couple of words to your why should
- 7:33Speaker 1: we care? I want to put some Jimmy Buffett words
- 7:35Speaker 1: in there, altitude and longitude, because we do shape attitudes
- 7:39Speaker 1: and we do shape open minds and make life happen.
- 7:42Speaker 1: But it's like, but but don't do it just for
- 7:44Speaker 1: your circle of Now, get out there in your community,
- 7:46Speaker 1: get out there in the world, and activate, because because
- 7:49Speaker 1: that's what what I feel inside this book.
- 7:52Speaker 3: Activation.
- 7:54Speaker 2: I agree with you so much, you know, and especially
- 7:58Speaker 2: with with with young people and like young readers. Adolescence
- 8:02Speaker 2: is forgetting to know yourself and trying things on for size.
- 8:05Speaker 2: And that means getting out there and trying things and
- 8:07Speaker 2: flopping around and being a beginner and not being great
- 8:10Speaker 2: and getting a little lost. But you're right, it's attitude
- 8:13Speaker 2: and latitude and you've got to get out there and
- 8:16Speaker 2: try things just for the sake of trying them, not
- 8:18Speaker 2: because they're going to look good later on a college application.
- 8:21Speaker 2: You know, just do it because you want to give
- 8:23Speaker 2: it a shot.
- 8:24Speaker 3: Now, what are you doing with this book? Are you
- 8:26Speaker 3: doing videos?
- 8:26Speaker 1: Because it seems to be that's the big thing on
- 8:28Speaker 1: YouTube right now where they want people to get on
- 8:30Speaker 1: there with their microphones and share things like this. Are
- 8:33Speaker 1: you going to be doing that kind of stuff? What
- 8:34Speaker 1: is the fourth dimension here?
- 8:37Speaker 2: The fourth dimension for me is my favorite one, which
- 8:39Speaker 2: is just in person. I'm going to schools, I'm going
- 8:41Speaker 2: to girl groups, I'm going to universities. Yeah, I'm going
- 8:45Speaker 2: all around because being in the room is, oh my gosh,
- 8:48Speaker 2: that's my favorite thing. You can see the relief on
- 8:51Speaker 2: a girl's face when you tell her about something that
- 8:53Speaker 2: you messed up and that you're still okay, and they think,
- 8:55Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you're allowed to mess up and then
- 8:57Speaker 2: still be okay. And there's nothing beat that kind of
- 9:00Speaker 2: in person.
- 9:01Speaker 1: When you go and you're with a big crowd of
- 9:04Speaker 1: people like that, is there one thing that you do
- 9:06Speaker 1: to get their attention? Because I'll take a feather with
- 9:08Speaker 1: me and I will totally sit there and just wreck
- 9:11Speaker 1: a feather and by the end of the day that
- 9:14Speaker 1: feather is looking brand new all over again.
- 9:15Speaker 3: I said, see, you can be fixed. I mean something
- 9:19Speaker 3: does God.
- 9:21Speaker 2: That's what I'm going to start doing that. Go for it.
- 9:24Speaker 2: I have to give you credit, Aydea, Yeah, no, no,
- 9:26Speaker 2: just do it. Most of the time I get their
- 9:29Speaker 2: attention by just I have different stories that I tell
- 9:31Speaker 2: that kind of There are some that are that are
- 9:34Speaker 2: kind of will grab their attention from the entertainment world.
- 9:37Speaker 2: But most of the time it's things that I messed up,
- 9:39Speaker 2: big mistakes I made, because it really does set people
- 9:41Speaker 2: at ease when they find out, oh gosh, people make mistakes.
- 9:44Speaker 2: It's okay, Wow.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you?
- 9:48Speaker 1: Because I want them to be in love with this
- 9:50Speaker 1: book and activate it, like we talked.
- 9:52Speaker 2: About, thank you so much. Well, I hope they all
- 9:55Speaker 2: get the book thing, which they can do at any ice.
- 9:58Speaker 2: They buy books indie bookstores and town or online if
- 10:01Speaker 2: that's and how they buy books. But also come visit
- 10:03Speaker 2: me at Instagram. I'm Meridiach on Instagram and that's where
- 10:07Speaker 2: all the you know, links and bio and all that
- 10:09Speaker 2: stuff is. And I'm a very googleable person, so you
- 10:12Speaker 2: can find me very easily.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Wow, come back to this show anytime in the future.
- 10:15Speaker 1: The door is always going to be open for you.
- 10:18Speaker 2: I'd love to. It's been so fun talking with you.
- 10:21Speaker 3: Will you be brilliant today?
- 10:22Speaker 1: Okay I will, and you too.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Thank you so much