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Show 220: Baptism · The Uncensored Catholic

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Speaker 1: A Hey, y'all, welcome to this week's show. Pick up
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where we left off last week. We'll be talking about
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the sacraments. We're at least going to talk about baptism today.
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That's the first sacrament, it's the gateway. It's you know,
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if you don't get baptized, you can't receive any of
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the other sacraments. Well, I guess you could be married,
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but you can, you know, it wouldn't be necessarily a
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Catholic marriage. Catholic marriage should really be between two baptized Christians. Now,
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there are special occasions, special circumstances where one can marry
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someone of another faith, you know, Jewish or Muslim or
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even atheist, I suppose, but Catholic still has to go
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through marriage counseling, and the non Catholic spouse has to
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agree not to use contraception or abortion obviously, and that
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the children will be raised Catholic. So it's really not
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ideal and pretty rare at least if people care enough
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to go through the right process. But yeah, you got
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to be baptized for you confirm. You gotta be baptized
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before you can receive the Eucharist. You know, Jesus said
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unless you're born again and water in the blood, you know,
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water being baptism, you're not saved. And for centuries the
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church taught that only baptized people went to heaven. And
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then through some actual revelations and such as a Blessed
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Virgin Mary and such as that, and theologians really looking
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at it, they came to the clusion that, you know,
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unbaptized children, especially those that die in infancy or before,
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are under the special protection of the Blessed Virgin Mary,
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and would have been baptized had they been informed or
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had their parents had the chance to baptize them, and
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they are in heaven. We don't believe necessary in limbo
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for unbaptized infants anymore. That was church teaching for a
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very long time. But thank god, the Blessed Virgin Mary
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has set as straight on that one, because very troubling
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to think that, you know, one's unbaptized infant wouldn't be
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waiting for them in heaven, and they are, in fact,
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they're under the special care of the Mother of God.
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So what more could you ask for? Right? So all right,
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we'll start out though with a couple of questions and
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answers from radio replies, and this is the old question,
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you know. I think Venerable Fulton scene said it the
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best when he said, if Jesus wasn't God but just
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a very good man, a philosopher or whatever, he was
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actually a very evil man because he was a blasphemer
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who led people astray. You can't have it both ways,
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you know, Jesus and the Buddha are not the same.
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Well anyway, this person says, could we not say that
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Christ was a sincere humanitarian? And the answer he was sincere.
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The priests, I mean, the priests are answering the question
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here he was sincere. He was not a mere humanitarian.
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The humanitarian is merely kind to his fellow men from
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motives of human and natural sympathy, not from motives of religion.
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Saint Paul tells us the uselessness of the humanitarianism from
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the religious point of view, and he writes, if I
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should distribute all my goods to feed the poor, I
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have not charity. It profiteth me nothing. First Corinthians thirteen three.
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Christ was essentially religious and not Christ was essentially religious
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and not merely humanitarian. He demanded that the love of
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God should be the motive for all our good world works,
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not the love of our fellow men for their own sakes,
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God being simply ignored. In that case, that person says,
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if Christ were aware of his divinity, why did he
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begin his ministry with doubt and temptation? And they answered,
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the temptation of Christ does not suggest that he doubted
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his divinity. His clear claim applies to show anything but
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doubt at perfect peace. Interiorly, he allowed an external temptation,
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or to teach us how to behave in similar occasions,
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Very true, very true had to debate with a ticket
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it as a Baptist a couple of weeks ago, and
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he said, because the Bible says all have sinned, that
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no one could live without sinning, And he totally denied
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the Blessed Virgin Mary's being without sin. And I pointed
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out that the Bible also says we're supposed to imitate Christ.
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And you said, Jesus did or sinned, so means we're
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not supposed to sin. And because Jesus supposed fully God
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and fully man, he showed that man can resist sin,
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that the Blessed Virgin Mary was conceived free from original
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sin and never had an actual sin throughout her life
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has been Christian tradition for two thousand years, and it
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makes a lot of sense if a Christians supposed to
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imittate Christ, the first Christian, the Mother of God, imitating
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her son, and especially through all the what she lived
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through would be very knowing because we actually have writings
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from the early Church about how devout and what an
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exemplary example she was for early Christians would have been
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free from sin, and also as the ark of the
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New Covenant. And I went through all this stuff and
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he actually eventually gave up. I don't know if I
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made a convert, but he actually pretty much had to
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admit that there is a really strong argument for the
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sinlessness of the West of Virgin Mary as an exception
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among people, you know, had to point out in the
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Old Testament there were at least two saints that were
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that did not suffer death. They were taken up bodily
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into heaven the wages of sin er death. So there
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were at least two people in the Old Testament who
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lived such sinless lives that they were taken up into
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heaven without experiencing death. You know, once you prove that,
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if you if you can convince someone that you know,
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the words of the Old Testament are true in the
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case of what Elijah and I can't remember Alicia. I
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can't remember, no, because one of the Leasha's bones, somebody,
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a dead man was laid in the grave of Licia's
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bones that he came back to life, so it wouldn't
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be Alicia. Okay, I'm confused. The names all sound all
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lots similar to me right now, But you can prove
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the possibility of you know, the blessed Virgin Mary is
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being taken bodily into heaven by the evidence of the
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Old Testament. What it comes down to, was she the
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first Christian? Yes she was. She was the very first
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person the Angel ever informed of what was going on.
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And was she a good Christian? Yes, according to all
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the writings of the Church. She was with the apostles
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at Pentecost, she received the fullness of the Holy Spirit,
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just as Saint Peter did. She was actually the spouse
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of the Holy Spirit. So it's even in deeper relationship.
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And then you know, basically said what evidence do you
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have of any sin she ever commended in her life?
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And they said, well, I don't have any. But you know,
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the Bible says all men of sin. But you know,
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it also says these two prophets were taken up into heaven.
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It also shows that Jesus is both fully human and
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fully God could resist temptation. Jesus said, you must be
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perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect. Maybe there's a
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little something deeper and meaning here, a little nuanced. Let's
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sort through it. You know, for long they well, they
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don't have any evidence. I mean, they have bigotry and hatred.
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But if you if you can speak reasonably with them,
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if they will listen to reason, they have no reason
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to believe that. You know, West Virgin Mary was not
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always pure and free of sin the Old Testament, if
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someone you know unworthy touched it, they were struck dead.
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And Mary sark and the New Covenant. So anyway, things
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Protestants don't know. But sometimes you can get through with
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them to them, and well, they don't always admit it.
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So they said that Jesus allowed an external temptation or
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to te tach us how to behave On similar occasions,
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person continues, you cannot deny his word. The Father is
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greater than I and the answer I do not wish
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to do. So. Christ was at once God and man,
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and has created human nature. He had deliberately subjected himself
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to God's will. But since in him there was but
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one personality, he had to use the personal pronoun i,
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whether referring to his divinity or to his humanity. If
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he referred to his divinity, he was equal to the Father.
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As regards to his humanity, he was lesser than the Father.
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All such difficulties are solved by a correct notion of
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Christ as God made man, yet made man in such
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a way that he never ceased to be God. Had
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he ceased to be God, all the real value of
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his life and death for us would have been lost.
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Person asked would God be born as an infant? And
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the answer our speculation as to what would or would
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not be all nothing against the fact that he was
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born into this world as an infant. He could have
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become man in some other way, but granted that he
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wished to be born of the human nature, which was
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to be redeemed, he needed to be born of a
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human mother, and this necessitated his being born as an infant.
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Redemption was thus manifested in both sexes, even as both
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sexes cooperated in our fall, Mary replacing Eve and Christ
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replacing Adam. By this means also the son of God
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wasn't able to exemplify virtues at every stage of human life,
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from infancy to manhood. Another point, marys described as the
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new Eve, Eve was born without original sin. There's another correlation.
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Take you anyway, where is the divine wisdom in decreeing
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that Christ should be descended from three women of ill fame, Rahab,
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Tamar and Bestsheba? One an odd question, I had a
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friend named Tomorrow. By the way, it's a nice name.
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It means date, like date you eat, you know, from
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palm trees. Yeah? Really? Anyway, First, there is no more
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difficulty why Christ should descend from these more proximate centers
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than he should be descended from the sinful first parent. Secondly,
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the immediate source of Christ's human nature was purified from
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all inherited sin, Christ receiving a true human nature from
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Mary without the cooperation of a human father. Thirdly, the
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women you mentioned were not lawful wives, and there is
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a deep significant in the coming of redemption by them.
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The Jews regarded themselves as the lawful children of God
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and thought that redemption was to be confined to them
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yet they thought that they could not lose their inheritance
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behave as they might. Yet Christ, the actual Redeemer rejected
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the apparent lawful nation and established a church for all nations.
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The Jews did not recognize the ancestry from unexpected women.
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So redemption has been given to men by an unexpected church,
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illegitimate in Jewish eyes. All right, let's go on to
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Father Spiago and we shall discuss baptism. When we get
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a sip of water and adjust myself in the squeaky
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leather chair. Oh there we go. You know, I usually
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edit out extraneous noises and taking a sip of water,
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But then I remember, you know, russ Limbaugh never did.
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I'm sertainly not better than Russia Limball. He was the
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greatest of all time anyway. So we'll start with baptism,
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and Father Spargo says even heathen nations such as Egyptians, Greeks,
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and Romans made use of water to cleanse their souls
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and render them pleasing to the deity. The Jewish law
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and purification to cleanse from various legal uncleanliness uncleanlinesses Leviticus
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twelve through fifteen. Before the giving of the ten commandments,
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the people were to be sanctified and wash their garments.
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Exodus nineteen ten. John the Baptist baptized in the desert.
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Those who promised amended amendment of life to signify the
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remission of sins which they would gain by their penitential works.
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The baptism of Christ is of a different nature, but
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it has a transferring power, for it washes away sin
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and confers the gift of the Holy ghosts Matthew three eleven.
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This is what takes place at baptism. Water is poured
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on the head of the person to be baptized. At
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the same time the words appointed by Our Lord are repeated.
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The person is thereby cleansed from original sin and all
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other sins. He is gifted with a habitual and sanctifying
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grace and becomes a child of God and err Heaven
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and a member of the Church. At our baptism, much
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the same takes places at Our Lord's baptism. Like him,
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we have water port on our head and certain words
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are spoken. Specifically, I baptize thee in the name of
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the Father and the Son in the Holy Ghost or
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Holy Spirit. The Holy Ghost descends upon us, although not
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in the form of a dove. We are made temples
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of the holy ghosts and Dad with sanctifying grace. God
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the Father says, this is my beloved son, and whom
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I am well please. We are made children of God,
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and the heavens are open. We are made errors of immortality. Again,
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much the same takes place at our baptism. Is that
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the clean cleansing of Namon in fourth in four Kings,
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I'm getting all tongue tied here Kings five fourteen, Book four,
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How's that I got sorted out? We are washed with
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water and delivered from the leprosy of sin, both original
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and actual. So again, much the same place takes place
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in our baptism as at the passage of the Israelites
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through the Jordan one Corinthians ten II. We pass through
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the waters of baptism and the promised land, the Church
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of which we become members. Those on whom sanctifying grace
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has been bestowed are in virtue of that bestow children
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of God and heirs of Heaven. Only the baptized ties
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have the right to call God their father. Hence, in
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early times, the Lord's Prayer was not taught to the
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unbaptized that's okay. That's a really interesting point of Catholic history,
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of Christian history in general, and something that I don't
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think any Protestant even knows. For the first several hundred
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years of the Church, unbaptized people were not taught the
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Our Father. The Protestants seem to think the Bible like
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Jesus ascended to Hell and dropped the Bible in front
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of him. No, it took a good four hundred years
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for the Bible to be fully compiled and translated, and
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hundreds of years after for it to be widely disseminated
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because it had all be hand copied. So not only
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did they not have like no Christian, very few Christians
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had a copy of Matthew Mark, Luther, John okay, the
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four Gospels. And so when Jesus teaches the Our Father
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and the Bible, for gosh, the first five centuries, the
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first seven centuries of Christianity, if not the first thousand years,
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I mean, think about how long that is. America's been around,
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not even two hundred and fifty years. We're talking about
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thousand years. People did not pick up the Bible and read,
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you know, pray like this our Father, who are in heaven. No,
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they were told by a priest. The priest would read
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the Bible to them, or the priests had memorized that passage.
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If there was no Bible even available to the poor
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parish in the middle of nowhere, the priest was well
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trained through the oral tradition of the church to preach
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the Gospel. So for first few hundred years, only baptized
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people were taught the Our Father. It's like, you couldn't
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just go grab a Bible and read it. You had
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to be taught by a priest how to pray the
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Our Father. Catacumins, people who were not yet confirmed into
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the Catholic Church would come for the beginning of Mass.
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But and they'd hear the homily, and they'd hear the
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Gospel read and all that, right, but before the consecration
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of the host they had to leave. Yeah, that's right.
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If you weren't Catholic, you weren't even allowed to be
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in the church during the consecration administration of the Eucharist.
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Things have changed so much over time, and you know,
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for some in some ways for the better. I mean,
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you certainly want your well. First of all, a child
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should be baptized as soon as they're born, I mean
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as quickly as possible for their own good, to protect
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them from demonic influence, to fill them with the Holy Spirit.
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I mean, you know, and it's good. I think that
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children can be en mass or converts that have not
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yet been confirmed during the Eucharus. They get spiritual benefit
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from that. That's a good thing. But also we've lost
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a lot of the reverence because when literally anyone who
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wasn't confirmed had to get up and leave, there was
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a very clear message that something incredibly special is about
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to happen. And that's you know, Jesus Christ, body, blood,
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soul and divinity coming into that church. So anyway, let's see.
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And Father's farrago goes on to say, those on whom
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sanctifying grace has been bestowed are in virtue of that
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bestow children of God and heirs of heaven. Only the
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baptized have the right to call God their father. Hence,
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in early time, the Lord's Prayer was not taught the unbaptized.
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Saint Louis of France used to say, I think more
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of the private chapel where I was baptized than of
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the cathedral of Reims where I was crowned for the
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dignity of a child of God who was bestowed on me,
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which was bestowed on me at baptism, is greater than
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that of the rule of a kingdom. The latter I
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should lose at death. The other would be my passport
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to everlasting glory. If you're not familiar with Saint Louis
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of France, he was a great saint, and I mean
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no wonder, no wonder the devil went after France as
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hard as he did. The French Revolution was the first
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communist revolution, was a purely atheistic and yeah, no, Saint
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Louis of France was a great Christian king, and shame
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we didn't have more of him in that side of
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my family. It is because man is cleanse from sin
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by baptism that Saint Paul exclaims there is therefore now
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no combination to them that are in Christ. Jesus Roman
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eight one. The words of Saint Peter on the day
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of Pentecost show what is the effect produced by baptism.
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Do penance and be baptized, every one of you, in
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the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins,
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and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost
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or Holy Spirit Act two thirty eight. You cannot receive
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the Holy Spirit without being baptized. A lot of Protestants
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get that wrong. Some Catholics do as well. But I
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was told that even Billy Graham said that discouraged his
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family for being baptized, because he said that was basically
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just Catholic superstition and just symbolic. Unfortunately, that's not the case.
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Fortunately for us it is the case. I mean, yeah,
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but fortunately for us it's not the case, because I mean,
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we do actually receive the Holy Spirit and we're sealed
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and become members of the Body of Christ. And you know,
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you can have the Bible and all the faith in
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the world. But you know what does the Bible say.
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Jesus said they would come to him and say, Lord,
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did we not preach in your name, cast out demons
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in your name? Even perform miracles in your name? And
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he would say, truly, I say to you, I do
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not know you be gone. That's not good. It's not good. Hope,
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that's not the case for Billy Graham. I know his family.
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They're nice people. I'll leave it that they're nice people,
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are they I leave it that they're nice people. They
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don't know what they don't know. I'm going to put
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it that way. They don't know what they don't know,
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and God will judge them on what they know. So
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there you have it. Saint Paul speaks of baptism as
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the laver la ve e argus is way you pronounce
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it of being of the laver of regeneration and renovation
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of the Holy Ghost, whereby being justified his grace, by
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His grace, we may be errs according to the Hope
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of Life Everlasting Titus three, five and seven. Again he says,
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in one spirit we are all baptized into one body.
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First Corinthians twelve thirteen. Baptism was instituted by our Lord
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at his own baptism and joined upon the church at
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his ascension. The Lord caused himself to be baptism baptized
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in the Jordan in order to sanctify water and impart
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to it a cleansing power. The manifestation of all three
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persons of the Holy Trinity at the time of his
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baptism showed that the sacrament was not to be It
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was to old choke pray here hold on, I gotta
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get no sip of that water. Sorry about that all right?
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Where was I? The manifestation of all three persons of
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the Holy Trinedy at the time of his baptism showed
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that the sacrament was to be administered in the name
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of three divine persons. Christ also told his apostles at
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his ascension to go baptizing all nations of the name
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of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost
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Matthew twenty eight, nineteen. Baptism acts spiritually as water does materially.
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It cleanses us from the stains of sin. It extinguishes
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us for us the flames of hell and a purgatory,
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and imparts to us a new life. It quinches the
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thirst of the soul. It gives us strength to fulfill
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the commandments, causes us to bring forth fruit to eternal life,
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and makes us members of Christ's mystical body. Everyone knows
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that the natural order water cleanses the body, puts out fire,
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and recalls to consciousness one who has fainted. In other words,
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to my faints. She can splash water in their face.
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They'll come to. It invigorates the human frame and gives
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fertility to the soil. The water of baptism does the
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same in spiritual order. Every newborn infant has the stain
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of original sin attaching to him, and every adult has
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an addition that of actual sin, the Blessed version Mary
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being the exception, because another proof you can give someone
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who doesn't believe that we know that the Holy Spirit
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would not enter anything impure. Nothing impure can enter into Heaven,
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and Heaven would not enter anything unpure. So in order
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for God to be incarnated as Jesus, his mother had
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to be kept free from the stain of original sin.
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The sins vanish see these sins vanish at the lava.
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Again that humans is washing if I remember correctly, of regeneration,
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as a spark disappears if it falls into the ocean.
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On this account, no penance is enjoined on the newly baptized.
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Anyone dying immediately after baptism goes straight to Heaven if
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he has the time at the time, no attachment of
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anial sin, thus escaping purgatory and hell. And since the
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person baptized receives the Holy Ghost and with him sanctifying grace,
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a new life begins for him, the life in God.
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In other words, speaking of the Blessed Virgin Mary, she
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had to be essentially pre baptized for the Holy Ghost
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to enter her, without which we don't have Jesus. Thus,
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baptism is the birth of the soul, whereas the other
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sacraments are its food or its medicine. Baptism is also
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called regeneration because of the commencement of another and a
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new life. When water is poured on the exterior, an
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interior chain change takes place. The individual becomes a new creature.
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From sinful, he becomes just, and baptism true peace of
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mind is acquired through the end dwelling of the Holy Ghost.
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The early Christians used to feel the same interior happiness
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after baptism that we feel after making a good confession.
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It may be truly said that the water of baptism
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quenches the thirst of the soul. Furthermore, when the Holy
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Ghost enters the soul at baptism, he enlightens the understanding
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and justifies the will. When Saul, all the persecutor of
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the Christians, was baptized, there fell from his eyes as
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it were Scales Acts nine eighteen, indicating that his spiritual
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blindness was at an end. Baptism also confers strength to
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resist the temptations of the evil enemy. Yet the corrupt
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proclivity remains, and man is ever subject to temptations, as
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the Hebrews, when they had escaped from servitude by their
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passages of the Red Sea, were still exposed to attacks
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of their adversaries in the desert. As the will is
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verified by baptism, we are better able to perform good works.
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He who has received the Holy Ghost possesses divine charity,
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and by charity we abide in God are closely united
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to Him John fourteen twenty three one John four sixteen Hens.
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Having received the Holy Ghost and with him divine charity,
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we are in baptism made one with Christ Galatians three
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twenty seven. We are reunited to Christ as members to
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the head. Your members are the members of Christ. For
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Corinthians six point fifteen. We are made members of one
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great body, of which Christ is the head and the life.
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All the graces which we receive as members of the
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Church proceed from Christ. Heins. He is rightly termed the
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life giving Head of the Church, for in one spirit
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we are all baptized into one body one Corinthians twelve
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thirteen and fifteen. Him baptism, we are cut off from
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the stock of the old sinful atom and grafted into
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Christ as new creatures. We are no longer the posterity
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of the old Adam, but of the posterity of Christ.
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Baptism is compared to the door of Noah's ark. See
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how marvelous are the effects of the sacrament. The grace
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of baptism is of all the gifts of God, the
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most excellent, the most exalted, the most precious, who being unbaptized,
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unbaptized would not desire baptism. Baptism is indispensably necessary to salvation.
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And then he gets into the issue of unbaptized children.
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Already discussed this, Okay, the church teaching has changed on
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that point. Now. In his time, it was believed that
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the children in Limbo were perfectly happy and received, you know,
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all wonderful fullness, except being able to inter heaven. We
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now know that they do inter heaven and are taken
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there by the blessed Virgin Mary. And you know, we're
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very blessed to have that teaching. You know, there's no
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new revelation, But throughout the centuries things are better understood
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another thing's products and still't understand hints it follows that
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parents ought to have their children baptized immediately after birth.
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Infant baptism has been customary since Apostock times. Say A
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Fonsa says that if parents, without an urgent reason neglect
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to have their children baptized within ten days after their birth,
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they incur the guilt of mortal sin. Remember that, and
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you really sometimes you may have to tell your preset. Honestly,
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some churches don't seem to see the priority of getting
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the child in there and baptized right away. They put
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people on waiting lists. Father Sprago says that the parents
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can incur the guilt of mortal sin if the child's
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not baptized within ten days. But you know, we're talking
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as soon as possible occasion. Certainly the priest who prevents
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that from happening is also encouraging incurring sin. So you
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might want to look up fellow of Spiago's words on
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page five to eighty of the Exhaustive Catechism of the
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Catholic Church Exhaustive Explanation of the Catechism of the Catholic
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Church and send that to your priest if he doesn't
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seem to see the urgency. Because it's going to be
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on him if he prevents it and something happens that
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kid before he gets baptized or sheet whatever. In cases
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of necessity, one can administer baptism without the user ceremonies.
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That is true. If your priests given you hard time,
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says you got to wait three months, go in and
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baptize your kid, and then chew him out and say,
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because you couldn't get off your butt and do it,
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I had to do it myself. Okay, you have every
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right to say that to a priest who's falling down
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on his duty. Sorry. I know he's busy, but he
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has that's his primary duty. Actually baptize and give the Eucharist.
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That's like his primary duty. And if he's too busy,
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they need a second priest of that church and a deacon.
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If nothing else, a deacon can baptize. But anyway, yeah,
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really chew him out. I mean, you have every right
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to do so. And if he's got any problem, he
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can take it up with others. Barrago. And if I
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have to speak on behalf of the father of Spargo,
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I will not that I should, but I'll say a
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prayer and ask forgiveness ahead of time. Yeah, nurses, this
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is true, and this is eighteen nineties. Nurses often baptize
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weekly infants. This was very common in the eighteen nineties.
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All the church, I mean all the hospitals were associated
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with a church, and most of them were Catholic. Before
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fifteen hundred, all of them were Catholic, and nurses were
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usually nuns, and they would baptize infants if they thought
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they might not live long enough to be baptized by
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a priest. The baptism by Jews and Heretics is valid. Yes,
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you can actually be baptized by a non Christian, but
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it must be correctly administered. That is, if water be
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poured in the child's head or some other portion of
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the body at the same moment the formula is repeated.
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I baptize the in the name of the Father's Son,
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in the Holy Spirit or ghost, however you want to
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say it. If the child lives, he should be taking
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the church later on for the usual ceremonies, and that
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in case it would probably be a conditional baptism. You
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do need to tell the priests the child's already been baptized,
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and you'll discuss it and he'll decide if the child
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needs to be rebaptized, or conditionally baptized, or not at all.
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Actually may just be for the ceremony of the christenings,
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so to speak, without but the priests will sport that out.
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He's been trained in that matter. If it be surmised
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that through overhaste or some other cause, the first baptized
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was not baptism was not properly performed, the priest must
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baptize the child again conditionally. In the majority of cases,
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only the priests should administer baptism, and that in the
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church with a prescribed ceremonial. That is ideal, But apparently
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not all of them seemed to get that these days.
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In the early ages of Christianity, only the bishop or
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a priest whom he empowered to act for him, had
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the right to baptize. But when the dioceses became larger
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and it was impossible for the bishop to go about
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continually to administer the sacrament, the power to baptize was
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made part of the priest's office. As a matter of fact,
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in the present day, only the priests of the parish
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still possesses this right unless he authorizes another to act
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in his stead, like such as a a deacon. Originally,
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baptism was only administered in baptisteries or a small stone
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chapel containing all that was necessary for baptism, situated either
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in close proximity to the principal church of the diocese
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or in the exterior building. About the seventh century, infant
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baptism became universal and an adult baptism are rare occurrent, so
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they pretty much caught up fonts containing blessed water within
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place in the church where the bishop officiated. Baptism in
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private houses was at that point strictly forbidden, but in
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the case of children of kings and princes, it might
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be administered in the palace chapel. Every king had his
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own church, basically, so a sacred and solemn so sacred
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and solemn a ceremony ought to be performed in a
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consecrated place. In the present day, the bishop's permission may
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must be obtained for the administration of baptism in a
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private house. If baptism by water is impossible, it may
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be replaced by the baptism of desire, or by the
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baptism of blood. Is in the case of those who
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suffered martyrdom for the faith of Christ, the Emperor Valentini,
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and the second was on his way to Milan to
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be baptized when he was assassinated. Saint Ambrose said of
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him that his desire had been the means of his cleansing.
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The Patriarch's prophets and holy men of the Old Testament
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had the baptism of desire. Also, the blessed Virgin Mary,
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the most holy woman ever to live, the Mother of God,
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had the desire to be sinless, and therefore had the
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baptism of desire. Had she known of the sacrament of baptism,
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she would have immediately asked for it. And therefore, just
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like the Emperor Valentini in the Second, as Saint Ambrose said,
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they had the baptism of desire. You think that's weird, Well,
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we'll get into that. Think about all the martyrdom of
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the Holy Innocence, the babies that were killed when Herod
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was trying to kill Jesus. Did they go to hell? No,
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they were the first martyrs. They were first people to
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die for Christ. All right. But anyway, God accepts the
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will for the for the deed. In this he manifests
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his super abundant loving kindness. But all the temporal penalties
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of sin are not remitted by baptism of desire. Martydam
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for Christ's sake is the baptism of blood? Is this
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the holy innocence received? And the Church commemorates them as saints.
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All on baptized persons who suffered martyrdom for the Christian faith,
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for some active Christian virtue or the fulfillment of a
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Christian duty, also received the baptism of blood. And again,
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the Blessed Virgin Mary was a martyr. You may say, well,
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she wasn't killed for the faith. What did Simeon say
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to her in the temple? A sword will pierce your heart. Also,
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she was a martyr in terms of the suffering she endured,
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seeing her son killed and her God killed, and this
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pretty big deal. And there's also a martyrdom of living chastely,
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I mean, especially in a marriage. But you can be
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a martyr in terms of not marrying for the sake
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of God, for the sake of the kingdom of God.
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There's a white martyrdom in which so called in which
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because you're Christian people mock you or look downs you,
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or you don't get a promotion. That's not quite the
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same level. But yes, Western Virgin Mary was certainly a martyr.
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It says so in the Bible, a sword will pierce
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your heart. Also, if the entire Bibles inspired by the
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Holy Spirit, we have to accept that one. She was
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full of grace before grace entered the world. The Angel said,
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hell full of grace. Grace had not yet entered the
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world through Jesus Christ. Therefore, she was filled with grace
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before Christ came. Yeah, and I think I've covered all
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the points. If I think it's something else, I'll tell you.
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But anyway, Witness John the Baptist. Let's see, we just
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said that. Let's see, all in baptized persons who suffered
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martyrdom for the Christian faith, for some act of Christian
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virtue or the fulfillment of Christian duty also received the
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baptism of blood. What more duty is there to give
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birth the Son of God. That's Christian duty. That's definitely
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Christian duty. Right, All who participate in the fulfillment Christian
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duty receive the baptism blood. Witness Saint John the Baptist.
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Saint A Mariantiana, I don't know that one who while
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yet a cat of cumin was found by the pagan's
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praguing at Saint Agnes's tune, and was put to death
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by them. The Church does not pray for the unbaptized
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to suffer death for Christ, for he himself says, who
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shall lose his life from me shall find it Matthew
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ten thirty nine. In the early ages of the church,
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Let's see, in the early ages of the Church, solemn
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baptism was administered on three days of the year, only
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three days of the year, Holy Saturday, the eve of
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with Sunday and in the East, and on the eve
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of the Epiphany. Thank goodness, you can be baptized in
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any day of the year now, but I can't. Because
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of that. People no longer seem to respect it. It's
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kind of lost its mystery and and I don't know,
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people take things for granted, that's for sure. Baptism used
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to be administered in the night preceding Easter and with Sunday.
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It was administered at Easter because of the spiritual resurrection
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and therefore appropriate to the season at Pentecost, because on
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the first day of Pentecost three thousand persons were baptized,
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and because of the Holy Spirit is given in baptism
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on the eve of the Epiphany, because the Church commemorates
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the baptists Our Lord and the Jordan that day. And
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modern actually is a little more in keeping with original
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tradition because you know, we read in the Acts that
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somebody believed and they were baptized that day, and their
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whole families were baptized that day. That includes infants. So
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it is good that you can now be baptized at
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any point individuals. Okay, we got that. The water to
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be used in baptized baptism is solemnly blessed and holy Saturday,
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on the eve of Pentecost. To this day, the premonial
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and the ceremonial was elaborate and impressive. It is accompanied
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by prayers and chants and many beautiful symbolic ceremonies, such
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as the mixing of chrism, breathing upon the water, dripping
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the pastal candle into it, etc. In the first ages
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of Christianity, religious instruction preceded baptism, and the cantons for
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baptism were called cantic cumans. Of course it doesn't count
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for infants, but an adult was exstructed. Hey you're gonna
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get you know you believe in Christ. Well, we're gonna
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tell you what you're gonna do, and this is what
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you have to believe. And you have to renounce Satan
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and all his works. You know everything you had to say.
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Anyone who desired to become a Christian had to present
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himself to the bishop, who questioned him closely, and if
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he thought him worthy, administered in him into the number
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of catechumens. He laid his hands upon him and made
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a sign that he was soon to receive the Holy Ghost.
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He made the sign of the Cross upon his forehead
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and breasts to signify that he must believe in the
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teaching of our crucified Lord and shape his life thereby. Finally,
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he put salt on his lips to denote the present
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from temptation of sin. The candidate was then a catechumen,
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a catechumen of the first class, and for two years
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he was instructed in Biblical history, the Ten Commandments, the
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Precepts of Charity, and allowed to be president Mass until
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the Creed. At the end of the second year, he
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became a catechumen of the second class, that is, he
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was obliged to fast and lent, to hear sermons, to
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confess his sins, to undergo various exorcisms, annointings, and other
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symbolical ceremonies. In the last week before baptism was administered
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after Palm Sunday, the candidates were taught the doctrine of
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the Mystery of the Holy Trinity, the Apostles Creed in
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the Lord's Prayer. All these ceremonies previous to baptism had
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been retained to the present day, and unless you could
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recite the Apostles Creed, you were not allowed to receive
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the Euchrist. It's the reason we recited at Mass. Immediately
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before baptism, the candidate had to take a solemn vow
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to believe and follow the teaching of the baptismal vow
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or Covenant. Standing with his face toward the west, he
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renounced the devil in all his works, the worship of
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idols and corrupt practices of the Heathens, and the pomps
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and vanities of the world. In terringward the east. He
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promised to believe and follow the teachers of Christ. This
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promise is known as the baptismal vow. It is also
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called a covenant because God at the same time promises
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the assistance of His grace to fulfill the promises made,
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and to reward those who keep it with eternal felicity
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after death. The baptismal vow resembles a military oath taken
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by a soldier, for at baptism, we are enrolled under
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the banner of Christ, and we promise to fight against
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the adversaries of God. The baptismal vow also resembles marriage
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marriage treaty concluded between those who are wedded at the
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altar for the soul then promises fidelity and love to
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her celestial bridegroom. It is well for those who have
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been baptized in their infancy to renew their vowels certain
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times after they have attained the age of reason, particularly
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before approaching the sacraments. Of course, we renew our vowels
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our baptismal vowls at least once a year. In the
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Catholic Church, a lot of people say saints great saints
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say it should be done every day, by the way
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Saint John christas And used to renew his vows and
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hours of temptation, saying I renounced the devil and give
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myself holy to Christ. In the time of persecution, the
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ely Christians were accustomed to solemnly renew their vowels once
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a year to strengthen themselves in the faith. One could
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wish this was done now, and we do. I think
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that every parish I've been in, I think that's pretty
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much tradition. Christians who have been unfaithful, their vows were
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the last judgment. Here from the lips of our Lord,
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the appalling words thou wicked servant, out of their own
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of thine own mouth, I will condemn thee by thou
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promise thou didst want solemnly make to me. Formally, baptism
44:55
was generally by immersion, but oftentimes water sprinkled apur on
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the individual, the priest, and the godfather, in the case
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of women, the godmother. And you know, you're supposed to
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have a godfather, and you know, at least, but doesn't
45:10
always happen these days. Someone who says I'm gonna make
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sure this child's raised up as a good Christian, you know,
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doesn't always happen these days, was led the person to
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be baptized by the hand down the steps and plunging
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him three times under water, where the priest pronounced the
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words prescribed by our Lord. The three fourfold immersion was
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an honor of the most wely Trinity. It was also
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in commemoration of the burial of Christ and his rising again,
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and was intended to signify that the old sinful man
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was buried and the new man had arisen Romans six
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three eleven. In the later centuries, baptism by immersion was
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abolished and the customs sprinkling almost exclusively adopted. A lot
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of times they had to do with scarcity of water.
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By the way, the name of a saint was given
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to everyone at the baptismal font. This was his baptism
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or Christian name. The individual baptized was placed on a
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special protection of a saint or an angel who was
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to service a model. Socrates of old used to advise
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parents to give the names of virtuous persons to their
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children in order to encourage them to imitate their example.
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Alexander the Great used to say to his soldiers who
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had the same name as himself, either take another name,
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or see that thou dost credit to it to my name.
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In addition, the name of some saint was to indicate
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the person in baptized has been made a child of God.
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And incorporated in the company of Saints. On occasion when
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God episodes particularly favors to his servants, the name was
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sometimes altered, which as Abraham became Abram became Abraham, Simon
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called Peter. Actually the vice of Vergion, Mary was actually
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dressed by the Angel as full of grace. Her name
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was actually changed full of grace, and of course Saul
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changed to Paul. The Church does not approve of heathen
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or of fantastical names. Yes, you should actually give your
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child a Christian name, not Lashanta or whatever ridiculous reign
47:06
or something people come up with these days. The name
47:09
of a saying may often prove to be an incentive
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to him who bears it to lead a Christian life.
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When baptism is administered with the usual ceremonies, which is
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called solemn baptism, the person baptized must have a godfather
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or godmother, or one of each, but not more than two.
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The obligation of the sponsors see that the person baptized
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keeps a faith and leads a Christian life. I think
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I pretty much just covered that, and my battery's running dead,
47:36
so I guess I'm going to have to wrap it up. Here,
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let's see we get to the last paragraph. The beautiful
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ceremonies falling upon baptism denote the dignity conferred upon the
47:46
newly baptized and the obligations resting upon him. The priest
47:49
annoints the person or child on the top of the
47:52
head with a chrism to form the cross, remind him
47:54
that he is now a Christian, an anointed one. This
47:57
function also recalls the royal dignity is the son of
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the King of Heaven. It monishes him to overcome the
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concupiscence of the flesh. Moreover, oil, being a mild substance,
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reminds into practice meekness and exercise the work of mercy.
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It also signifies the illuminating and justifying grace of the
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Holy Spirit. In former times, the newly baptized used to
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put on a white robe, which they wore in the
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church for a week until low Sunday is a symbol
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the robe of The symbol of the robe was baptismal
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innocence and the wedding garment of sanctifying grace, which were
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to be kept unspotted until death. On the present day,
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a white cloth is laid upon the newly baptized. A
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light of candles then given to the person baptized or
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the sponsor if an infant. This is to note the
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light of the Holy Spirit which he has received and
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recalls the words of our Lord. So let your light
48:48
shine forth before men, that they may see your good
48:50
works and glorify the Father who's in heaven Matthew five sixteen.
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It also indicates that all the poors of the City
48:57
of Eternal Light are open to him. All these ceremonies
49:00
have a sanctifying influence and consecrate him who receives them
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to be a fitting templar of the Temple of the
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Holy Ghost. Formerly, the person baptized was confirmed immediately and
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afterwards immediately afterwards admitted to Holy Communion. Now it's we
49:16
do it differently because you can be baptized as an infant,
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then you have to go through Christian training before you
49:21
can be confirmed. So they're talking in the original times
49:24
when most converts were adults. Anyway, he was also fully
49:28
instructed in the doctrine of Holy Mass, the sacraments, and prayers,
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the so called discipline discipline disciplina, there's the word. It's
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Latin disciplina or kani previous to baptism. He would not
49:42
have understood them as he was without the enlightening presence
49:45
of the Holy Ghost. See how great the esteem in
49:48
which religion instruction was held. Very true, And you ask,
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why can't Protestants understand the teachings of the Calathic Church,
50:01
especially in regard to the Eucharist and confession. Things are
50:07
things that are really explicitly spelled out in the Bible. Sorry,
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I've had a little hiccup there in the recording. Uh.
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You say, why can't Protestants understand Catholic teaching? A lot
50:16
of them have been baptized, and without the Holy ghosts,
50:19
they can't understand Catholic teaching. Yeah, and those that have
50:23
been baptized have not received the fullness of the Holy
50:25
Spirit which we receive in confirmation, which we'll talk about
50:29
next week. Y'all have a great week. Talk to you
50:32
next time.