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133 Bigfoot Led Them to a Massive UFO? The Arizona 4 Tell Their Incredible Story · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one Paul, massive Paul on my front and chilled,
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  Speaker 1: and one Paul right above my mirror on the driver's side,
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  Speaker 1: and the driver's side of my car just pushed down,
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  Speaker 1: just the weight of it just put pushed down, and
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  Speaker 1: the Paul that was on my front windshield, my windshield
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  Speaker 1: started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it.
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  Speaker 3: And then while I was holding it, but it's like.
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  Speaker 2: The ground underneath me.
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  Speaker 3: Just kind of opened up and I just kind of
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  Speaker 3: fell through the planet.
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  Speaker 4: He wasn't moving, he wasn't blinking, like there was a
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  Speaker 4: complete like just like blankness to his face.
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  Speaker 5: Like there was this there was nothing there.
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  Speaker 6: I rubbed my of my truck. I jump out the
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  Speaker 6: truck and truck and that's what I knew it was.
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  Speaker 6: It was this gold there.
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  Speaker 7: There would be a real low general brown.
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  Speaker 6: One more step and he's going to be in clear view.
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  Speaker 4: And he takes that one.
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  Speaker 8: More step and he just it was like he just
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  Speaker 8: stepped behind an invisible curtain and he wasn't there anymore.
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  Speaker 8: Welcome back to the show, Ladies and gentlemen. This is
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  Speaker 8: episode one and thirty three. And I had on for
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  Speaker 8: the first time anywhere seen on YouTube or m P
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  Speaker 8: three's the entire Arizona four.
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  Speaker 7: It was fantastic.
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  Speaker 8: Kevin Keeney reached out to me and said, Tom, I
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  Speaker 8: got something I gotta tell you, and all of us
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  Speaker 8: are coming on. I was like, okay, man, So they
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  Speaker 8: were seeing the phenomenon. If you guys know, you can
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  Speaker 8: look back at the catalog and see that I've had
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  Speaker 8: him on before, and you know it was him and
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  Speaker 8: Chris came on before. But the first time I met
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  Speaker 8: Rob and I believe Wayne they came on as well.
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  Speaker 8: So I've had him on before, but this was a
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  Speaker 8: quite a bit different things that are experiencing this phenomenon.
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  Speaker 8: They were calling it I wisps. I'll let them give
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  Speaker 8: them to that static electricity in the air, and all
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  Speaker 8: of a sudden they look up in the sky and
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  Speaker 8: they see a very large UFO. The pictures are, you know,
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  Speaker 8: over over on YouTube you can go see. We talked
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  Speaker 8: about it in great detail and it was it's it's
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  Speaker 8: it's it's astounding what was seen. I hope you guys
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  Speaker 8: decided to go over there and check that out. If
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  Speaker 8: you want to reach out to me. As always, you
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  Speaker 8: can do so at the Eye of Jupiter podcast at
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  Speaker 8: gmail dot com one more time THEI of Jupiter Podcast
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  Speaker 8: at gmail dot com, and I'll be looking forward to
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  Speaker 8: talking to you. Don't forget to leave me a rating
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  Speaker 8: over here on Spotify or wherever you get your MP
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  Speaker 8: three downloads. And I hope you guys enjoyed this one
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  Speaker 8: with the Arizona four.
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  Speaker 7: Well all, hey, Tom, hey, everybody out there. A pleasure
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  Speaker 7: to be here. Thanks for coming on, man, Thanks for
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  Speaker 7: coming on man. How's it been. Well, it's been good.
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  Speaker 7: And we finally got some long overdue reign over the
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  Speaker 7: past week and a half and we just got done
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  Speaker 7: being Hamburg and we still might get a little thundered
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  Speaker 7: in the background, but probably just got at least at
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  Speaker 7: least three inches, so definitely needed.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been We've hit the rainy season, got a
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  Speaker 8: couple of thunder boomies are coming through every evening. It's
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  Speaker 8: been hotter in hell down here, like I don't know,
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  Speaker 8: in the mid nineties with seventy percent of humidity. But
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  Speaker 8: that's normal down wherever I'm over here in the Yukadam Peninsula.
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  Speaker 8: It's it's been very nice. I've been enjoying it working
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  Speaker 8: as always doing my being a tutor and just enjoying life. Man,
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  Speaker 8: So Kevin not Kevin, You're not Kevin, Yeah you are
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  Speaker 8: Kevin Kevin.
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  Speaker 7: A lot of things.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I was thinking of Chris. So I was got
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  Speaker 8: Chris in my head. To my favorite Manute, tell us
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  Speaker 8: tell everybody one, We're talk a little bit about yourself,
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  Speaker 8: how you started this, and uh, you know, we'll get
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  Speaker 8: into what you wanted to present to me today.
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  Speaker 7: All right. Yeah, So I'm a I'm a father of four,
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  Speaker 7: grandfather of sixteen, Desert storm combat veteran, serve five years
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  Speaker 7: in the Army. I'm retired now and my retirement allows
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  Speaker 7: me the time to go out and do what it
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  Speaker 7: is I do. So back in twenty seventeen, UH had
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  Speaker 7: on a family camp out, had some things happen that
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  Speaker 7: that got me in the world a bigfoot sasquatch forced
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  Speaker 7: people is what I call them. And since then I
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  Speaker 7: have putten a zubrand amount of time out out in
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  Speaker 7: the field, boots on the ground, and have developed best
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  Speaker 7: way to say, at a level of trust with about
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  Speaker 7: six six or seven different family groups up here along
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  Speaker 7: the Mogion Rim Central Arizona, and yeah, that's the Reader
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  Speaker 7: Digest version.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, they're they're the quick Bridge version. If you guys
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  Speaker 8: want to go back and check out. Kevin's been on
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  Speaker 8: two times live one time. I don't do lives anywhere.
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  Speaker 8: You guys know that because what happened was five out
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  Speaker 8: of six weeks people either didn't show up or they
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  Speaker 8: canceled last minute. And I was like, you know what,
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  Speaker 8: I don't need this kind of headache. I can do
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  Speaker 8: the pre records, make sure I stay ahead a little bit.
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  Speaker 8: That way if someone, you know, something comes up which
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  Speaker 8: has happened sometimes, you know, basketball games, all kind of
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  Speaker 8: weird stuff. I decided to just go ahead and do
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  Speaker 8: the pre records that way. I know everyone's comfortable and
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  Speaker 8: we can always kind of move things around a little bit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: so go ahead and check those out. So, so you've
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  Speaker 8: reached out to me like a week ago, and I
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  Speaker 8: I think I was in the middle of actually recording
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  Speaker 8: my last podcast with mister al Santa Rica there, and
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  Speaker 8: you were like, I got something for you, man. You
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  Speaker 8: want to go ahead and tell people, say, you go
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  Speaker 8: up every year to the mogim Rim after the snow melts,
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  Speaker 8: and you start, what do you what is it? Do
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  Speaker 8: you have a camping excursion? What do you do up there?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I I just spend a lot of time out there.
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  Speaker 7: The last couple of years have been a lot more
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  Speaker 7: sporadic than what they were in the beginning. But we
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  Speaker 7: have multiple different locations. And when I say we we
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  Speaker 7: the Arizona four, you know, I kind of started out
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  Speaker 7: almost a solo mission with this, and and it's kind
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  Speaker 7: of morphed into what it is now. And and so
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  Speaker 7: we have Rob Copeland, he's ex Navy, he served in
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  Speaker 7: submarine service. Wayne Dillon, he's ex Army Infantry. Chris Kramer.
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  Speaker 7: We all know Chris Krame're lovely man. Yeah, and you know,
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  Speaker 7: so Chris is the only one in the group that
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  Speaker 7: that that's not a veteran, but we we tolerate him
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  Speaker 7: over that, so I understand you know that. Yeah, But no, now,
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  Speaker 7: Chris is an integral part of our team. And and
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  Speaker 7: you know there's a lot of checks and balances that
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  Speaker 7: go on between us all because we're not all on
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  Speaker 7: the on the same page of the time, Uh you
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  Speaker 7: know what's actually going on. I mean, we're all experiencing
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  Speaker 7: the same thing. But you know, we check each other,
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  Speaker 7: we test each other, and and uh, you know, it
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  Speaker 7: just makes the whole thing work. So, you know, so
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  Speaker 7: so and then myself, and so that's the best of
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  Speaker 7: the Arizona Four. I'm also known as Arizona Squad, but
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  Speaker 7: that's what I originally started under. You know. So the
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  Speaker 7: particular location up on the rim that we call Hilltop,
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  Speaker 7: just a lot of activity up there. Matter of fact,
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  Speaker 7: that's where I met Rob. He'd been camping up there
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  Speaker 7: at that point twenty five years, and that's five years ago,
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  Speaker 7: so he's been in that spot for thirty years. And
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  Speaker 7: you know, so he goes up there with his wife
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  Speaker 7: and some friends, and the friends of his aren't really
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  Speaker 7: into the squatching thing. And and so when Rob's up
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  Speaker 7: there with his wife, you know, they're they're doing their
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  Speaker 7: their family thing. And and sometimes we're up there on site,
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  Speaker 7: kind of camped a little ways away from them, and
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  Speaker 7: once in a while he might sneak out and come
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  Speaker 7: hang out with us for a little bit. But this
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  Speaker 7: particular trip, I decided I wanted to go out and
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  Speaker 7: camp out on the knoll, which is a couple of
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  Speaker 7: hundred yards away from where I normally set up my camp.
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  Speaker 6: And.
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  Speaker 7: Chris was supposed to come up, but Chris ended up
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  Speaker 7: having some vehicle issues and so he wasn't able to
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  Speaker 7: make this trip.
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  Speaker 8: Wayne.
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  Speaker 7: Uh, he came up for a day trip and did
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  Speaker 7: a night sit the night that's in question here, and
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  Speaker 7: I'll get into it. I'm just setting up the preface
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  Speaker 7: to that. Well, because you know this preface too. It
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  Speaker 7: is very very important to you know, the whole the
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  Speaker 7: whole part of the story.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: You know. So anyway, I get out there, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 7: get my camp set up and I and then I
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  Speaker 7: go over and I talked to Rob for a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: And I've never camped in this particular spot. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: I've spent a lot of time in that area, just
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  Speaker 7: not that spot. So I go over and I'm talking
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  Speaker 7: to Rob and he says, you know, I had some
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  Speaker 7: mind speak last night before you got up here. Him
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  Speaker 7: and his wife been up there a few days before
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  Speaker 7: I got there, and he said, I was told that
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  Speaker 7: I'm supposed to come sit out with you. And I said,
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  Speaker 7: all right, well, you know, if if you can get away,
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  Speaker 7: come sit out with me, you know, not thinking anything
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  Speaker 7: about anything, you know, excited that maybe Rob's gonna come
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  Speaker 7: sit with me. And and so the first night I'm
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  Speaker 7: sitting out and I have you know, I had mild activity.
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  Speaker 7: And when I say mild activity, you know, a couple
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  Speaker 7: of knocks, a couple of twinkle lights. I could hear
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  Speaker 7: voices at one point back behind me, and I could
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  Speaker 7: hear the bipedal footsteps, you know, and you know, so
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  Speaker 7: it was just mild activity. And you know, and sometimes
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  Speaker 7: I got to remind myself my idea of mild activity
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  Speaker 7: to another person would be off the chart. But you
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  Speaker 7: know when when when we have off the chart, stuff
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  Speaker 7: happen and makes stuff like this, you know, look, you know,
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  Speaker 7: just you know, mild activity, you know. So I would
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  Speaker 7: have classified that first night as like, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 7: a one or a two at tops. And I ended
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  Speaker 7: up going to bed fairly early, uh you know, because
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  Speaker 7: it had been a long day and and uh just
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  Speaker 7: wasn't much activity going on to speak of, and so
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  Speaker 7: I went to bed early. And and so the next
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  Speaker 7: day was over talking to Rob, telling him what had happened,
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  Speaker 7: and and then Wayne comes out, and uh so we're
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  Speaker 7: hanging out and Wayne's deciding that you know, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 7: definitely gonna stay and and and sit out for the
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  Speaker 7: night and then I'll just go home when we're done
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  Speaker 7: with this with the night sit. You know, because Wayne
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  Speaker 7: and myself we live fairly close to this area within
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  Speaker 7: an hour hour and a half, so it's not that
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  Speaker 7: big of a deal to zip in and zip out.
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  Speaker 7: But uh, and then Rob says, you know, I'm going
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  Speaker 7: to try and come over and sit with you guys tonight.
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  Speaker 7: Well that would be great, and you know, hopefully Chris
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  Speaker 7: gets up here. And you know, we still hadn't heard
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  Speaker 7: from Chris. Uh, you know that he was having vehicle
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  Speaker 7: issues and wasn't gonna make it, and you know, so
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  Speaker 7: we'll we'll just fast forward so I don't get you know,
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  Speaker 7: long in the tooth on this. But so it's getting
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  Speaker 7: close to time to set out. Wayne and I are
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  Speaker 7: at my campsite. Rob's not over there yet, and we're
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  Speaker 7: starting to get a little bit of activity. You know,
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  Speaker 7: got a really good knock come from down the hill.
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  Speaker 7: And then I see an individual about sixty seventy yards
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  Speaker 7: away running through the trees left or right.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm like, wow, this this is going to be
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  Speaker 5: a really good night.
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  Speaker 7: They're absolutely around and and so Rob gets over there
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  Speaker 7: and and you know, so now we're real happy, but
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  Speaker 7: we're trying to figure out where we want to set
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  Speaker 7: our chairs, you know, in which direction to look because
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  Speaker 7: we've never been in this particular spot and usually there's
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  Speaker 7: one area that's a lot more active than the surrounding,
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  Speaker 7: and so we end up we're standing most of the
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  Speaker 7: night and uh, you know, we're we're just having really
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  Speaker 7: really off the chart activity. I mean, we're seeing individuals,
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  Speaker 7: you know, moving around. You know, the sun had had
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  Speaker 7: just set, but it's still a little bit of light out.
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  Speaker 7: Then we got the twinkle lights, and we got the
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  Speaker 7: static discharge going on. At one point in time, we asked,
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  Speaker 7: you know, how many of you are here, and really
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  Speaker 7: didn't get an answer. And so the night's going on,
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  Speaker 7: and you know, we're on our feet, so we're constantly
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  Speaker 7: moving around looking at different areas, and then we start
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  Speaker 7: seeing these little black wists, you know, that would would
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  Speaker 7: go up into the air like that, and that was
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  Speaker 7: something absolutely new that I've never seen before.
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  Speaker 8: Mana, we have wayneless, I have Rob here. When one
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  Speaker 8: of the Arizona just popped in, good welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 2: Made it.
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  Speaker 8: Welcome Robin, Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, nowhere on Arizona. We don't change times.
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  Speaker 8: That's right, that's right, that's right. I'm over here for me.
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  Speaker 8: It is also twenty after seven, so yeah, of course enough.
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  Speaker 8: Nice to meet you Robs the first time. All right, man,
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  Speaker 8: thanks for coming.
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  Speaker 2: Nice meeting you.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, So since Rob just jumped in, I'll let
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  Speaker 7: him jump in real quick. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 7: heard what I was talking about. Rob, I met part
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  Speaker 7: of the night where we were seeing the wisps. But
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  Speaker 7: let's jump back real quick and just tell him about
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  Speaker 7: the communication that you had about coming to sit out
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  Speaker 7: with me, because it sounds better coming from the one
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  Speaker 7: who's got it versus me.
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  Speaker 3: So well that was excuse. I just I just came in,
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  Speaker 3: rushed back to get here, you know, one hundred degrees. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: the night before it was actually I walked the dog.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, we'll keep it clean. The night before after
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  Speaker 3: I walked the dog, you know, we were camping, I
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  Speaker 3: sat out and uh, I knew somebody who's there, just
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  Speaker 3: you know, I was talking whatever. But I did get
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  Speaker 3: that I needed to go sit out with Kevin, and
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  Speaker 3: so I went, okay, I will I will try. And
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  Speaker 3: then that's the next day was when Wayne was coming
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  Speaker 3: up and so I figured that was a good day
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  Speaker 3: to sit out with him, and it was the right day, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 3: So otherwise I was gonna, you know, I was gonna
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  Speaker 3: do like a Tuesday sit out or something like that.
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  Speaker 7: But okay, what does it sit out exactly? Well, it's
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  Speaker 7: just where we sit out at night and observe, listen
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  Speaker 7: bs amongst each other, you know. So you know, we're
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  Speaker 7: just sitting out. You know, we have no campfires, no lights,
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  Speaker 7: sit in absolute darkness waiting for something or anything to happen.
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  Speaker 7: But at the same time, we're just having our BS sessions,
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  Speaker 7: I guess is the best way to put it, rebbing
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  Speaker 7: on each other. What's what's been going on? And yeah,
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  Speaker 7: so go ahead, Rob, Sorry, Well.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's that's basically it. You know.
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  Speaker 3: The sit out is just we're we're all sitting out
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  Speaker 3: there and we take no mercy with each other, and
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  Speaker 3: if somebody shows blood, everybody else gangs up on that one.
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  Speaker 3: We're great entertainment for our forest friends.
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  Speaker 7: You know how that goes? Tom?
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  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, all from the military here. So I understand
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  Speaker 8: it's a uh, you know, part and parcel for what
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  Speaker 8: we do. I mean, you uh good, and we had
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  Speaker 8: one guy at one time. He had his helmet all
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  Speaker 8: backwards and his cat eyes we're facing out the front,
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  Speaker 8: but he did have a chin strap on, so you
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  Speaker 8: got some fucking brownie points for that.
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  Speaker 7: All right. Yeah, although I'm gonna have to back this up.
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  Speaker 7: Rob was in the Marines, he was underwater. On the
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  Speaker 7: helmet was a little band on it, and there's two
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  Speaker 7: blow in the dark tabs on the back of it.
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  Speaker 7: So when you're at night night vision, you can see
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  Speaker 7: the guy in front of you as you're trailing through
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  Speaker 7: the you know, so the cat eyes. All right, but yeah,
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  Speaker 7: so well we're gonna fast forward and go back to
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  Speaker 7: you know, seeing these black wisps going up in the air.
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  Speaker 7: I believe you.
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  Speaker 8: But now, could you describe that a little bit because
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  Speaker 8: I'm it's it's kind of weird.
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  Speaker 7: Do you mean, like like a like wind? If not.
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  Speaker 7: The only way I think I can describe it is,
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  Speaker 7: let's say you just blew out a candle and then
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  Speaker 7: black smoke and it just kind of goes up like that.
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  Speaker 7: It was it was something similar to that, but much larger.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, so if you if you'd think
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  Speaker 7: about the size of you know, I would say the
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  Speaker 7: biggest one I saw you, I don't know, it's eight
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  Speaker 7: feet maybe and probably two feet wide, and just you know,
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  Speaker 7: going like that. I don't know if it was just
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  Speaker 7: a different type of distortion or or it was no. Okay, no, no,
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  Speaker 7: I've never seen that before. And you know, and you know,
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  Speaker 7: so we're enjoying the activity that we're getting, and then
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  Speaker 7: we finally get a little bit of communication. We asked again,
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  Speaker 7: how many are there? And yeah, I got seven seven, seven,
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  Speaker 7: And I was trying to think of, well, is there
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  Speaker 7: seven here? Is it seventy seven or you know, because
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  Speaker 7: there was a lot and there wasn't seventy seven of
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  Speaker 7: them there, but there was there was a lot of
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  Speaker 7: individuals moving around that, you know, that we could see
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: going through the trees, you know, just the dark shadows
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: because by now the sun is set and it's getting
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: dark or dark out, and uh, you know, these little
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: static discharges and twinkle lights and you know, it's just
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: a whole bunch of cool stuff. And and Rob, was
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: it that same night that was whistling back and forth
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: with the one.
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: Mm?
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: If it was it was with you and Wayne, it
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: wasn't with.
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: Me, Okay, all right, it might it might have been
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: the following night anyway, because they all just blend in. Uh.
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: But so, just a bunch of stuff going on. I
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: got the name of one of them that was there
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: that I hadn't heard the name in quite a while.
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: And his name is Rickett, but every time he says
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: his name, it's rickety, rickety rick, you know, So I
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: know he was around in. One of the matriarchs of
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: the Klan was there. Her name is Yiden again and
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: and got got a pretty good communication from her. Uh
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: But anyway, so Rob and I we're sitting there having
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: a conversation about past experience at another location that we
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: call crazy Town, and you know, I'm seeing some stuff
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: up in the sky that was was pretty remarkable and yeah,
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: and I kind of aggravated Rob because.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I was tired and an understatement.
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and I was just like, I'm going to bed.
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: I don't want to deal with this, and Rob's like,
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: you can't go to bed, but you know, so so
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: for we're having this conversation about this and you know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: and some other experiences, and something catches my eye and
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: I look up and about the same time Wayne had
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: the same thing caught Wayne's eye and it was a
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: shooting star, and you know, so we look up and
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: for a second. When I say a split second, I'm saying,
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: you know, one tenth of a second, as fast as
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: the mind can process it. When I leoked up, I
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: was like a comment. Yeah, but but it wasn't a
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: comet and uh yeah, Wayne can't get in uh anyway,
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: so it wasn't a comment. And we're watching this thing
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: going across the sky about as fast as a satellite,
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: maybe a little faster, depending on what its actual altitude was, Rob,
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: Do you want to tell your side of it?
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Oh? Sure?
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: When I started typing, I was I was looking a
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: little backtrack. We were on the it was a corner,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: the two track road, and we were this where we
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: seen the wisps. And I actually saw more than wisp
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: I saw like ground level, like they were on all
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: fours twice and they were it was like, you know,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, my eyes would focus on like
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: that is and then as soon as I knew what
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: it was, it just bolted. I mean it was in
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: a blink. I knew the direction it went, but it
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: was gone in a blink of an eye. So everybody's
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: looking in this one direction. And I have a habit
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: of once everybody's focused in one direction, I turn around
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: and I look at the other the other way. Call
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: me paranoid or whatever you want, but and sometimes it's
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: paid off. But so I started walking down the two
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: track road and we have actually had a chair in
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: the road and I would just kind of arms were
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: on the chair, and I was scanning between the ground
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: and there was an open area and the beginning of
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: the tree level and I was I was looking in
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: there for you know, twinkle lights. And I saw a
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: lot of static to charge discharge that night, which I
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: normally don't see.
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: Could I'm sorry, what is.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Think of it?
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Like at nighttime pitch black and you gotta a blanket
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: or a sheet, and you you see little little statics,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: you know, like sparks, and it's just like a static discharge.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: And they were they were spread out, but they were
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: it was pretty predominant. I never really seen that much before.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: But this is my first time out that I got
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: my eyes fixed, so my eye vision is a little
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: bit better now at night, but I was.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: So with that aspect.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: I was facing north, I was looking at the tree line,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: but I was kind of looking down at the tree
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: line looking for twinkle lights, and you know movement because
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: when you have the trees behind there and then you
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: have the open grass field, if something blows across the field,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: you can see the the it'll stand out from the
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: trees in the back. So that's where I was at.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: The two army guys are coming up behind me, and
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: they were on my sonar and all and all of
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: a sudden, I heard Kevin like what the is? And
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: then Wayne was what the And so I'm like, okay,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I'll bite and I turn around and I look at
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: him and they're looking up in the sky.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: So I was like.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: And then the thing was like right above me, not
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: at a ninety but it was just out a little ways,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: but it was basically directly above us. And I just
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: watched this thing, and I just my cam. I brought
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: my camera for some reason, which I normally don't do,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: but it was off and I knew there was no
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: way that I was going to get my camera booted
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: up before the thing was out, so I just watched it.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: I heard Kevin grabbed his you know, he said, I'm
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: gonna take a picture of this. He grabbed a camera,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: which is what you're showing now. And this thing just
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: went steadily across the sky. It didn't curb with the earth.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: It just kind of went. It went out to a
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: point where here's when it was pretty much we're directly
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: under it. But as it went out father the angle
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: of you know, you're looking at it flat, the angle
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: of it started getting that so you're you're looking more
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: at its rear. And then it finally went to like
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: one little light and squinton and then to a point
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: that you couldn't see it anymore.
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: Wow, So it kind of like one on its end.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, it just it was the same directory.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Just you know, if if if a plane's above you, you're
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: looking at its belly, but as it goes off in
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: the horizon, now you're looking at its exhaust and and
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: and that's what it was. And we just and I
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: watched it until it you know, and then it was
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: you could see it. Then you couldn't you see it
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: was the you know, the sun, the sun hitting it
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: or whatever, and then it was gone. But it was
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: a good minute and a half, you know, give me
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: the exact amount, because everybody was h jaws are on
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: the floor, and you know, I looked.
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: At it, and uh so, I've seen like, for example,
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: you know, Elon Musk starling. So you can see that
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: the camera shots a little wiggly. So everyone listened to
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: discover to the YouTube channel and check it out, guys,
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: so you can see that it's you know, that the
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: stars are around it, that there is a little wiggle.
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: But when something so far away and you're trying to
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: take a picture, especially being under a sense of the
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: rest or a sense of like, you know, wow, what
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: the hell are we looking at? That's going to happen,
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: But it would not just you know, okay, so let's say, go, oh,
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: it's Elon must satellite whatever they call it, startling. It
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: wouldn't have these defined edges on the left and right side.
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: And if you look at it, I've actually, you know,
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: I've actually looked at it a little bit because Kevin
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: uh So gratefully showed it to me. There's this little
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: like it looks like a little chunk is missing out
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: of one of the parts, like a little how would
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: you say, like a night like a right angle sitting
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: at a forty five that that makes any sense?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Dark area about, yes, the dark.
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: Area, Yes, it's absolutely.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: You know, you look at that and you say, well,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: what is this and what is that? And all I
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: can say it was there. It was there. It was
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: a steady pace. It didn't it didn't speed up, it
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: didn't slow down. It just chugged across the skyline till
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: it was out of sight. Couldn't tell you, you know, what
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: the protrusions were. You know, it definitely wasn't starlink. You
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: would have those little lines in a row. Uh, these
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: the the the light refraction whatever that you're looking at.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: There are different sizes, they're different spacings. Uh, they're they're
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: not in the line. There's dark as you see, there's
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: dark spots in there. And it's just a w t
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: F moment. It's could not you know, if we had
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: a super high definition camera or something like that, maybe
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: you'll really get some good pictures. But you know, this
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: was from an excited little army lad that had his
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: camera out.
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: Hey, hey, I never take my phone out at night
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: because you know, if it goes on, it destroys my
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: night vision and then I can't see anything. And you know,
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: so we sit in the dark, you know, So give
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: you a backdrop. This this is on July sixth, it's
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: at nine nine pm because I got the time stamp
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: on the actual photo two hours after the sunset. Wow.
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: You know, so some of the some of the digging
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: that I've done, and you know, I'm by no means qualified,
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: But at the same time, there's enough information via Internet
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: to be able to come up with some some calculations
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: and equations, and okay, you know, so bare minimum for
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: to be standing on the surface of the Earth and
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: two hours after the sun had set, in order for
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: an object to still be reflecting sunlight and still be
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: visible from the surface of the Earth, minimum distance is
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: nine hundred and forty three miles something like that. So
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: we'll just say nine hundred miles. We'll just round it
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: down to nine hundred. It goes up to twelve hundred
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: and sixty five, but you know, somewhere in that general range.
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: So just if that was nine hundred miles away and
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: at an arms reach, you know, if I was holding
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: up a ruler at arms reach, that would have been
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: an inch to an inch and a half and doing
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: the and so now doing that equation, the mathematical equation
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: for it, of course AI did it all for me.
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: That craft is between fifty to sixty five miles in length. Now,
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: with that being said, we all believe that it was
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: much farther out than that. And when I say we all,
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: the three of us that witnessed it, Rob, Wayne and myself,
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: we believe it was outside of the satellite ring a
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: because we didn't lose a bunch of satellites. You know that,
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: you know, fifty mile craft is not going to travel
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: through that satellite band and not knock out some satellites.
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: So if if being the keyword, that's outside the satellite ring,
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: that craft is over one thousand miles long, because the
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: satellite ring is twelve thousand and two hundred and twenty
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: six miles something like that, and so that makes that
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: a thousand mile craft. If that be the case, you
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: know that it's you can't wrap your head around something
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: that big. You know, you can see ninety degree angles.
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: You can see three dimensional shape on it, like superstructure.
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: You see at the very top that it like continues.
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: It's a little darker, but you can see at the
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: very top that it actually.
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: Well what I think that is at the top and
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: that's actually the tail end of it, and so I
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: think it's just catching shadow from it moving, you know,
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: because my phone Galaxy X twenty three plus, it automatically
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: adjusts for taking a nighttime picture, so depending on ambient light,
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: it'll you know, a prolonged exposure, and so it had
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: a half second exposure. So in that half second, what
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: you're seeing is the tracer of it, I guess would
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: be the best way to say it.
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: Wayne's trying to come on and it says that the
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: device is not there's Chris. Okay, I got I got Chris, Chris,
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: But Wayne's having issues. Hey, Chris, how's it going, buddy time?
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Hey?
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: But yeah, Wayne's having a little bit of technical issues.
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: But nonetheless, yeah, I'm.
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: Texting him on the fucking side. It is what it is.
• 32:06
  Speaker 10: He's uh, he's here like the rest of these monthly
• 32:09
  Speaker 10: dopally's sitting in here.
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: So we're going through the uh we're going through like.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: I thought this seem was starting in twenty four minutes.
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: What happened here? Seven o'clock mountain? What are we living? Well,
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: we're we're Arizona Mountain. We don't change mountain changes, we don't.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: You're making my balls hurt?
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: Well, why am I here?
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: Honestly?
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: What's up? Tom, It's good to see you.
• 32:40
  Speaker 10: Man.
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: Pit a minute, man, you're looking good, buddy looking good.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 32:43
  Speaker 10: I'm like smoking, like I know, like seriously, I mean,
• 32:48
  Speaker 10: it doesn't get any more professional than this.
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I know that's what I do. Man, you know
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: how it is.
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I'm late. I thought I was supposed to
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: start at seven.
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: So yeah, yeah, which, how to make sure we're going
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: into Yeah, to catch Chris up a little bit more
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: going into the dimensions. The distance out in the dimensions
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: with some calculations of it being just basically ginormous and uh,
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: the right angles of it and the the what your
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: buddy's captured there is just uh astounding astounding to uh
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: that's solid.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: That's a new one for us.
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, especially with the weird wispy things that they were
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: seeing before that, and uh Rob was talking about where
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: he's uh possibly seen him, Well, he said he's seen
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: him crawling around on all fours and the weirdness that
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: was happening, and then this popping up in the sky
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: at the same time. I mean, I don't know what
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: that even means. You guys have any any thoughts, I mean,
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: what are your thoughts on this? Well, well, after it happened. Yeah,
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: you know, like I said, you know, it's a minute
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: to a minute and a half at just completely you know,
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: frazzled all of us. And you know, so we're having
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: all these conversations and I get the communication from the
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: aidenin you're meant to see that, and after she said.
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: That, everything went, you know, went went dead quiet, and
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: you know, so we're standing around having a WTF moment,
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: trying to figure out what the hell did we just see?
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: And you know everything that that led up to this,
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: you know, and this is kind of why Chris is here,
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: you know, because there there's so many things that happened
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: that may happen the trip before that will tie into this,
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: or may happen two years ago that ties you know,
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: it all kind of weaves in together. And you know,
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: so Chris just had an amazing communication yester day, contacted me,
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: asked me if I you know, if I got anything,
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: and you know, and I'm thinking this is all tied
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: in together because what Chris got told is an area
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: that not very far from my house. But go ahead, Chris.
• 35:15
  Speaker 10: You know, I'm still so this doesn't happen to me
• 35:19
  Speaker 10: often when I'm not on site almost never. And I
• 35:24
  Speaker 10: pulled into my driveway and I got clear's bell, you
• 35:28
  Speaker 10: need to go to west Side.
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: That was it.
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: That was it. And it was a female deep voice.
• 35:36
  Speaker 10: I'm assuming it was, and but I don't know, I
• 35:41
  Speaker 10: have no idea.
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: What the west side.
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: That's one of ours, one of our one of our spots.
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: Okay, okay, okay, that's.
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: Kind up on the west side of the mogg on m.
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: That's interesting.
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean we have, so.
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: What happened. We've got we've got names for every location.
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: So it's like, hey, I'm going to west Side, everybody
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: knows where to go. Hey we're going to Hilltop, everybody
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: knows where to go. So but you know, so anyway
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: back to the craft real quick, you know, because you
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: were talking about Starlink and and you know, so I
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: started doing some research on the starlink and I knew
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: immediately it wasn't starlink. We we have seen starlink trains
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: multiple times while being out in various different aspects of it,
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: you know, close together, far apart that this was not
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: a starlink. So I started doing looking into starlink, and
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: the day before Starlink did have a launch. But at
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: nine pm. This was starlink was over the mid Atlantic
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: or the South Atlantic and would not be visible from
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: Central Arizona. That high in the sky reflecting sunlight.
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: It just yeah, I've seen it one time and it
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: kind of freaked me out.
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: I was like, what is that? Uh?
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: And then I realized, so somebody told me what it was.
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: I was like, oh, that's what that is. Okay, So
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: it's like a line of satellites. But like I said,
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: when you when you see it, you can see, like
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: I said, once, it's a little you know, the shots,
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: a little blurr. You see that the stars are not
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: on point, but it's so far away and of course
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: you know, the moment kind of dictates that. So at
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: the same time, there's, uh, there's this you know, weirdness
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: to it. Okay, we finally got your buddy here.
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: There he is.
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: Hey, Hello, way, nice to meet you, sir.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: Hey, good to meet you. Thanks for having us on.
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: Man, you're downloaded Chrome.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: It was it was it was an issue in my
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: settings on my phone.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: So there's that.
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: Okay, we're going through.
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: Now, tom YEA yeah, I got all for you on here.
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: I feel I feel this is a rarity.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the first time.
• 38:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's the first time. It's the first time. Very
• 38:12
  Speaker 10: rarely are we all four of us out at the
• 38:14
  Speaker 10: same time. Actually, it's always some I mean sometimes.
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: Wait, Wayne, welcome to the show. First of all, my friend, thanks,
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: great to finally meet you. They've been talking, uh good
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: about you. And yeah, and I was wondering, did you
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: also witness this with.
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: With uh, with Kevin and Rob?
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Ken, you were there those guys.
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, sorry, Rob, Yeah, tell me.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: My story.
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: No, I'm sorry, Wayne, Well you are.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: We were We were.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Out doing what we do and and uh we had
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: turned around head back towards where we were gonna sit
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: down at and I saw out of my upper peripheral
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: a a shooting star h and and and that brought.
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: My eyes up to it.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: And I was just about to say, Kevin, you're seeing
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: this and he said, oh, my gosh, whatever he said,
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: and uh yeah, and and we all caught it about
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: the same time.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: So and we watched it for.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna guess a good minute and a half and
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: and and it just kind of got load to the
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: horizon where we could see the uh, we could see
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: the trees at the bottom of the at the bottom
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: of the of of our view, and it just kind
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: of like someone turned the dimmer switch off.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: It just slowly went away gone, you know. Like my my.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: Idea on that was that it was high enough to
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: be catching the rays from the sun outside of the shadow.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: That was casting from the earth.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: And that's where we got a little bit of our
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: idea of about how high might have been. And and
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: either the time elapsed and it became into the shadow,
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: or it might have changed altitude and put itself in
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: the shadow. I don't know, it's it's all, it's all. Uh,
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: it's all conjecture.
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Can you describe what you were feeling when you
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: saw this man?
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: No?
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: I can't. It was awful.
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: That was That would mean he actually had feelings.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: I think I used I think I used the word
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: gobsmacked after a word and that's not a word I
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: even use.
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: Uh wow, yeah, right now, that is what I had.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: Then.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: I don't have words for it. Just the direction it was.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: It was just had it directly, uh north to south.
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: It was going in a line.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: It wasn't canted in any way, and it seemed to
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: be it seemed to be under intelligent control and it
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: seemed to be far away, and it seemed to be large,
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: and my brain couldn't couldn't wrap around that as well
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: as much better than it can now.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: So we were just for two days. We were just.
• 41:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it looks like the sun is shining from the right.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the that's the side that that's the
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: right side of that would be the west side.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: As we were looking at.
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: It facing facing south, Yes, sir, okay, wow.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: We caught it at about I want to say about
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: eighty degrees. That's my that's my estimation. And we watched
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: it till it was probably forty degrees. So we watched
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: it travel uh forty degrees of of of.
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: Of uh traverse the traverse forty degrees. Yeah, I got you.
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: I got what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, you can even
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: see that. They're like, you know, there's like you know,
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: parts that are higher than others. That part there's there's
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: right angles. Like Kevin was saying, that looks like there's
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: like piping or whatever that would be. I was talking
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: to a gentleman too, that was recently. See we didn't recently,
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: but I recently had him on and he was talking
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: about that he's seen something when he was a kid
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: over top of a valley, and uh, what was it?
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: In Alaska? And he said, don't you know seven years old,
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: his brain went to like steam engine. It has kind
• 42:28
  Speaker 8: of like this feel to it too, Like it seems
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: like it's you know, almost steampunk for lack of a
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: better term. It's it's like I said, when Kevin said
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: it to me, I was like, uh, I was like,
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: I don't know what to even do with that, and
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: and yeah, it's just it's just fascinating. And you three
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: seen me at the same time. What happened to your truck?
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: Chris?
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: Would you break down? Did you did your time?
• 42:49
  Speaker 10: And change a ongoing saga?
• 42:56
  Speaker 8: I trust me, and I gave up on my truck.
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: I just sold it to my ex wife as are here, and.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: I love I love christ to death, but I don't
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: know if he's real good at picking mechanics.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: That's it, that's you, that's you.
• 43:08
  Speaker 10: I was just nobody was ever going to confuse me
• 43:10
  Speaker 10: for like somebody in the fucking you know, pick crew
• 43:14
  Speaker 10: and the hand things just about uh ended any uh
• 43:18
  Speaker 10: fine motor.
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: Skills issues that I have. So that's what I have.
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: Two of my close friends his decent mechanics.
• 43:24
  Speaker 10: To uh cajole me and and tell me what the
• 43:27
  Speaker 10: fuck to do.
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: I'll tell me what to do. Part of my language.
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: Sorry, I'm all over the place familiar with your.
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: Boys, with your boys.
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: I got you.
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: So.
• 43:35
  Speaker 8: So you were saying you were seeing this. It went
• 43:37
  Speaker 8: down in a forty degree I'm talking to Kevin. It
• 43:40
  Speaker 8: went down from a forty so forty degrees of trajectory
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: of movement or whatever, and then you got the mind
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: speak that you were supposed to see this, and then
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: everything just went away.
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: You're meant, yeah, you're meant to see this, and then
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: it just you know, all activity went flatline.
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: Anybody else get it now?
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: One thing I want to back up to. Okay, no, sir, No,
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: it was a yeah. Now that the original picture, you know,
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: where it's just this little streak in the sky. Yeah,
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: when there's a harvester moon in the sky and the
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: harvester moon is really big and you take out your
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: camera and you take a picture and you just got
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: this little dot. It's visually kind of the same thing
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: going on in this picture, you know, because I still
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: have that that first glance seared in my brain, and
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: you know, so if you remember what Hailbop comment looked
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: like when it was in the sky. Oh, yeah, that
• 44:46
  Speaker 7: was my frame. Yeah, that was my frame of reference.
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: You know that My brain automatically went to you know,
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: so that's what I'm still seeing. But visually in person,
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: it was the appearance of it was larger than what
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: you know, what you see in that Yeah, you know,
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: so and and and and and person, it was much bigger.
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: And like Wayne says, just gobsmat. Yeah, I still don't
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: even know how to process this. Yeah, I understand.
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: I wonder if you if you guys are willing, since
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: I got all four of you here, there was a
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: story I think both Kevin and Chris told me at
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: different points. There was a story about a time where
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: I don't know who was where, but there was a
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: road that you were on and one person could see
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: one of these forest people and the other person couldn't.
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: And when the other person then wayne the point of
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: view of the other one, then they could see it.
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: Could you could you go in today?
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: That was I'll let I'll let, I'll let either Chris
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: or Kevin.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: Well, I I wasn't there, I didn't know, I didn't well,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: I was there. I'm not the one that witnessed it,
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: so one of the witnesses would be better at explaining that.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: I'll set it up. We were sitting, we were on
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: the road. We could tell where the road was.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: There was wasn't much moon, but the road was a
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: light straight object at our feet, and UH and two
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: of us saw something run from right to left across
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: the road about thirty forty yards from where we were,
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: so we decided to walk.
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: Down that way. And when we got to about where.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: We thought it was, we saw all these little twinkle
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: lights in the trees and on the ground, and I
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: was looking at those, and I saw one on the ground.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: It looked like a double nine domino glowing in the dark.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: And okay, and I told them about it, and I said,
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna walk all on over into these
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: lights and see, you know, just see see what goes on,
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: see what feels like, see what happens. And I took
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: about three steps to the west off the road, and
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: it was just a calm feeling.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: But then I heard Kevin.
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So Wayne actually disappeared from my vision.
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: It was like Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, are you okay? Yeah,
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: I'm fine, I'm right here. No you're not. I don't
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: see you. Chris on my right. Wayne was on my
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: left at the beginning, says, I see him, just fine.
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: I lean over to get the vantage point that Chris
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: was in and I could see him. I leaned back
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: where I was at. He was absolutely gone. I could
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: see the trees and everything behind him, but there was
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: no Wayne. And I grabbed Chris and I kind of
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: drug him over and and you know, so Chris, go ahead.
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, everything that was just stated was.
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: Where we were at.
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: I would like to.
• 48:10
  Speaker 10: Say that like when I could see Wayne, it wasn't
• 48:13
  Speaker 10: just like you know, so when I saw him, he
• 48:17
  Speaker 10: was like covered in like this white, staticky.
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: Electric discharge, like it was all over his body. That's
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: what I saw.
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: And then when I moved.
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: To where Kevin was.
• 48:28
  Speaker 10: Standing, he just completely disappeared from view. I think the backstory,
• 48:35
  Speaker 10: a little bit more backstory to this is that, you know,
• 48:38
  Speaker 10: we decided to stretch our legs and kind of head
• 48:41
  Speaker 10: down this kind of road trail and I didn't see,
• 48:45
  Speaker 10: but Kevin and Wayne watched some bipedal thing probably about
• 48:50
  Speaker 10: fifty yards in front of us, maybe not quite that far,
• 48:53
  Speaker 10: like run across the trail from as we're looking from
• 48:58
  Speaker 10: right to left. So the thinking was we were going
• 49:01
  Speaker 10: to walk down to where we thought this entity had.
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: Come from and see see see what we can see,
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Like who knows? So we
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: get down there, and right in the area where.
• 49:16
  Speaker 10: We believe this this guy came out of, there was
• 49:18
  Speaker 10: a whole bunch of what we call the twinkle light
• 49:20
  Speaker 10: effect going on, like this kind of light manifestation that
• 49:25
  Speaker 10: seems to kind of coincide with them.
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: Being around for whatever reason whatever that.
• 49:30
  Speaker 10: Is, Right, So Wayne decides to walk into the spot
• 49:35
  Speaker 10: where we saw this guy exit from, and that is
• 49:38
  Speaker 10: when from Kevin vantage point, he literally took like four
• 49:41
  Speaker 10: or five maybe seven steps and like blinked out, like
• 49:44
  Speaker 10: he just wasn't there. Now I was standing off of
• 49:46
  Speaker 10: the right, I could see him, but he was covered
• 49:48
  Speaker 10: in that static he discharged him. When we're talking to him,
• 49:51
  Speaker 10: he's responding, but it sounds like he's talking to us
• 49:54
  Speaker 10: sock like it wasn't wow, And I was muffled. And
• 49:59
  Speaker 10: then he backs out of it right and and and
• 50:02
  Speaker 10: reappears in front of us again and doesn't seem to
• 50:05
  Speaker 10: have like any sort of you know, strained after effect
• 50:08
  Speaker 10: as result of it, you know, so like then know that.
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: Was that was the gist of what happened.
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: It was a new one. It was odd.
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: I don't know that we could ever define it, you know,
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: like you know, there's a.
• 50:18
  Speaker 10: Lot of commonly bandied around, Oh it was a stuff
• 50:21
  Speaker 10: out of a portal.
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: I don't know that to be true.
• 50:24
  Speaker 10: I don't even you know, like to mean that word
• 50:26
  Speaker 10: is so overused for something that maybe they can do
• 50:29
  Speaker 10: by themselves. I don't know, but I think the consensus
• 50:33
  Speaker 10: was that whatever that energy is when he walked out
• 50:38
  Speaker 10: of it, it was like what was was just some
• 50:40
  Speaker 10: like residual discharge from that from that happening. That's what
• 50:45
  Speaker 10: maybe I think it may have been. I don't know that, like,
• 50:49
  Speaker 10: we don't really have any idea, but that was.
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: That was the gist of it. It was a it
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: was a really weird one for lack.
• 50:56
  Speaker 7: Of a better term.
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: I don't think I missed anything there, but let me know, well, I.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: Believe I believe I thought and felt the same thing
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: when we got to the area with all those twinkle lights,
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: different colors.
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: They were all over. There was you know, one hundreds
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: of them, and it looked like.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: The residual just look like residual energy if you were
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: just to look at it and wonder what was going on,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: what made it along a stage, what it looked like
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: before we got there, No idea, and it has itself.
• 51:30
  Speaker 8: Okay, as far as I understand, you guys have been
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: doing this for quite a while, at least five years
• 51:36
  Speaker 8: and maybe something longer than others. Of course, So and uh,
• 51:41
  Speaker 8: I know you were kind of especially at the beginning
• 51:43
  Speaker 8: Christmas where I first met Chris uh during this uh
• 51:46
  Speaker 8: with you gentlemen, And so you know, why why are
• 51:50
  Speaker 8: you guys stepping forward now? Is there something that is
• 51:54
  Speaker 8: happening or you're trying to give some type of you're
• 51:56
  Speaker 8: just showing your experiences, trying to get the you know,
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: the information that you've you know or whatever it is,
• 52:02
  Speaker 8: whatever the experiences that you've run across out there, so
• 52:05
  Speaker 8: that more people have a better understanding of them not
• 52:08
  Speaker 8: just being some you know, dumb ape in the forest.
• 52:10
  Speaker 8: So what exactly you know is your is your reasoning
• 52:13
  Speaker 8: for doing what you're doing now?
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't think we didn't step forward, Yeah, we've
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: always been there. Just Kevin originally had a first website,
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: and we just kept doing what we're doing.
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: We did.
• 52:32
  Speaker 10: I think additionally, we were very represent about faces, you know.
• 52:40
  Speaker 10: I mean when we first started realizing that this was
• 52:44
  Speaker 10: a little bit more than just your average kind of
• 52:48
  Speaker 10: you know, experience interaction type things. We were looking for
• 52:53
  Speaker 10: an honest platform two kind of uh put.
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: Our stories out there.
• 52:58
  Speaker 10: And Robbie actually coined the phrasey Horizon A four, which
• 53:02
  Speaker 10: was an anonymous collective, so that when we started started
• 53:07
  Speaker 10: emailing Steve Staal, who we had and still have respect for,
• 53:11
  Speaker 10: that he had a great the right platform for this
• 53:13
  Speaker 10: type of you.
• 53:14
  Speaker 9: Know, knowledge or whatever we're doing. And for a while
• 53:22
  Speaker 9: we were Aready and Kevin.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Chris breaking both Chris you're breaking up?
• 53:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Chris in a second. Yeah, okay, try now that's
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: the same. That's the same.
• 53:51
  Speaker 8: Okay, Maybe maybe Rob, maybe Rob, you could speak to
• 53:54
  Speaker 8: them a little bit about what you because yeah, it's
• 53:59
  Speaker 8: not working very well. But what I kind of get
• 54:01
  Speaker 8: to just to what you're saying. But I want to
• 54:03
  Speaker 8: make sure that the people out there, Derek, Rob, please.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: We'll not trying to go on too much detail, but
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: we were we were doing our thing, you know, just
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: experiencing them you know, just and the subject come up
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: with different people that, you know, different websites that that
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: we respect, and then other ones.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, well if we don't respect them,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: we don't watch them. Whatever. But Steve Site was one
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: of them.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: And I did the first email into him, which was
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: don't pee on trees, and I was kind of surprised
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: he did it, but I signed it Arizona four. I
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: just figured, you know, give us a name instead of saying,
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: you know, robber, you know whatever. So I did Arizona four,
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: and uh, it just kind of took off from there,
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: except for you know, took Chris a while to come
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: to don't say anything because you're breaking up.
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: But am I?
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, sure?
• 55:08
  Speaker 8: Oh man, what's it like being Chris around for for
• 55:11
  Speaker 8: former military veterans? Does that bother you at all? Does
• 55:14
  Speaker 8: that make you feel comfortable?
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: No, I'm a convicted felon. So I stand right in
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: there with all of them.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: He's like, we're on three on the bottom, and he's
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: the guy on the top of the picture.
• 55:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah. So I mean like, this is uh, this is uh,
• 55:30
  Speaker 8: this is one for the you know, you guys come
• 55:33
  Speaker 8: over here to talk about today. This is one for
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: the lack of a better term, ages I I've never
• 55:39
  Speaker 8: seen because you've heard about these things. You know, you
• 55:41
  Speaker 8: hear a lot about like okay, dour sasquatch sightings or
• 55:45
  Speaker 8: forest people sighting, you know these you know, these life
• 55:48
  Speaker 8: phenomenon or or even orbs. And you also hear like
• 55:51
  Speaker 8: this connection with like you know, maybe UFOs. But this
• 55:54
  Speaker 8: is the first time that it's that I have seen
• 55:57
  Speaker 8: it being documented or at least you know, like you know, presented.
• 56:01
  Speaker 8: And I know you guys are very careful about that
• 56:03
  Speaker 8: way you talk, you know know, which is great, which
• 56:05
  Speaker 8: is great.
• 56:05
  Speaker 7: I really respect it, honestly.
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: I mean, what do you what do you think this is?
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: Like?
• 56:10
  Speaker 8: Before we get you a better what do you guys
• 56:12
  Speaker 8: think this this was or what's going on?
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: If if I can a lot of the stuff people say.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: When there there's UFOs and when there's UFOs and you know,
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: the bigfoot and stuff, they say they see a u
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: f you know, they say a big foot with the
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: UFO or the UFO is really really close.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: This thing was not really really close.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: This thing was the way and I think the klan
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: that got us to go there, and I'm sure they
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: didn't rip off Chris's fender, but they wanted him there.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: But I think they were there to witness it just
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: I think that they were there to watch it. I
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: don't I don't think they had nothing to do with it.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: They just somehow knew it was going to be there
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: and they said, hey, boys, look and we're like, wow,
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: what the shit is that? But my opinion is this
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: a lot of times, you know, as I said, people
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: are saying that they saw one come from a craft
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: and stuff. This isn't it. They knew this was going
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: to be scooting by, and they had to know it
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: in ahead of time because they got you know, Kevin
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: to come up.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: I was already going to be there.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: They actually told me to go sit out with him,
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: and somewhere Wayne got the I'm go up this day.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: You know, he could have went up Tuesday. But so
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: I think it's I don't go. I wouldn't get locked on.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: This is the confirmation that they're tied to UFOs or whatever.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: I think they just watched it, you know.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this thing was so far out there they whatever
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: it was, you know, wouldn't a detective them. I don't know,
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: you start getting the crazy you know what ifs, but
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: they were there to look at it just like we were.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: That's my opinion. Other guys, what don't.
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: You know the.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Well it.
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: The amazing part about it, you know, And like I
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: was saying at the beginning, for everything thing to work
• 58:28
  Speaker 7: the way it did and us be in the exact
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: spot that we were at the exact time to look
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: up to see this thing. You know, if if we
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: had been camped over in our normal spot couple of
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: hundred yards away because of tree cover, we'd have never
• 58:44
  Speaker 7: seen it. Pretty much any of our other locations we
• 58:50
  Speaker 7: probably wouldn't have seen it. And you know, so just
• 58:54
  Speaker 7: the fact that all the stars lying down.
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know what he was saying, we can hear you,
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: we can hear.
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: Out, you know. So everything everything lined up exactly right
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: for this for us to be able to witness that.
• 59:15
  Speaker 7: And then I get that communication. You were meant to
• 59:18
  Speaker 7: see this, you know, like Rob said, you know, and
• 59:22
  Speaker 7: that's a very good possibility that you know, they wanted
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: us there along with them to witness this event. What
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: was this event? You know? My my biggest thing is
• 59:33
  Speaker 7: where did it come from? Where's it going? Who's driving
• 59:37
  Speaker 7: the machine? And where did they get the material to
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: build a craft like that? How long did it take?
• 59:45
  Speaker 7: I mean this, you know, I I've seen I've seen,
• 59:49
  Speaker 7: you know, the little zips going around up in the sky.
• 59:51
  Speaker 7: I've seen triangle crafts. I've seen one that looked like
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: a kite. You know. I've got a photograph of one
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: of those metallics yours kind of half blinking out into
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 7: a cloud. I've seen a lot of stuff up in
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: the sky and I just you know, you know, because
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 7: it's just you know, everybody's seeing it. This thing is
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 7: just that it's off the charts. It's off the charts. Yeah,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 7: you know, we were joking around only five people on
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 7: the planet saw it, the three of us and two
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 7: guys that nod that saw it. That nobody will believe them,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 7: you know, you know how many I've got no sound.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 8: Okay, okay, Yeah, that kind of goes in out a
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 8: little bit.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: Having major technical issues here.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah it is. It happens sometimes I've had.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: I can't hear anybody.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 8: I don't know, I don't know what about you. Are
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 8: you still there?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: I didn't cut it down and started it back up
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: and never everything's going good again.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 8: Now Okay, So all right, that's Tom.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: Can you hear me?
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 7: Yes, I can't hear anybody but Wayne. Yeah, I can
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: hear you.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: Everybody everybody else can hear you.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: If you can hear me, I can hear you. But
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: I can hear Rob, keV or Tom.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: I haven't said anything.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 10: I mean, how these things happen on shows like this?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 10: When you're talking about stuff like this, you.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 7: Know it happens all the time.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 8: All right, So all right, guys, so tell me what's
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 8: next for you?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: Guys? What's next for you? Guys? You gotta We're just
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: gonna keep think.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: I'm a good lip reader.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, let's not go there.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: I got nothing, man, I would I would like to
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: add in a little bit to what Rob was saying earlier,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: and and uh prefect to say that that we all
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: have our own ideas and our own thoughts, and we
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: don't always agree. A lot of times we don't agree.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: Uh but but none of us have the uh uh
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: the the we're not able to say, oh, you're wrong, right,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: you can't because who's nobody is a nobody is a
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: an expert on this subject. There are some people that
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: that have more experiences than others, and we have experiences
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: on a fairly regular basis. We're not here to try
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: to prove anything. We're just here at this point to
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: share our experiences. And before it was just a close
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: knit four guys, five guys whatever, you know, back and
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: forth here and there, that just experienced and talked about ourselves.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: And we never wanted to really be seen. We had
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: no we had no, we had no desire for that.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: But things move on as they do, progress and progresses
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: and and uh and here we are trying to just share,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: not trying to prove anything, not trying to get any evidence,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: you know. That's that's why I didn't have my phone.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: My phone was off and.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 8: It was in my jeep.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: Uh, Kevin's was.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: In his pocket and it was off. I couldn't get
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: mine in time to take a picture of that thing.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: But Kevin, luckily, his came.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: On and he got a picture.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: Fantastic.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: So we we tell them, you know, we won't lie
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: to them. That's what we tell them. Uh, No, no weapons,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: no lights, you know, and and and and come to
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: us and and you know.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Well not to take pictures of them.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 7: Absolutely not.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: That's that's when they that's when they that's when you.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: Lose lose their their trust and and you're not gonna
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: have you're not gonna have regular interactions or experiences if
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: they don't trust you. You might catch something off once
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: in a while. And and most of the things that
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: that that happened to us, I would say a lot
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: of the things that happened to us, anybody that wasn't
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: in our group or or somebody else that's just interested
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: in the subject would be just completely mind blown that
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: that happened.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: And for us, it's just a Tuesday, you know.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 7: And and so so.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: We're not we're not bragging about anything. We're just trying
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: to share what we what what we experience, and that's
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: what we are.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 7: We're experiencers fantastic. So I want to think and.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 10: Yeah, the need for providing evidence for other people is, uh,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 10: that ship sailed a long time ago, it really did,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 10: you know, Wayne's right.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 7: I think.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 10: I think that as this topic has drifted more into
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 10: the mainstream from the fringe, you know, people that have
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 10: had the type of encounter and experiences that we have,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 10: and not in an arrogant way, but I don't know,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 10: but a handful of people that they can even claim
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 10: that you know what I mean, And and so that
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 10: in itself is unique.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: There's it's truth about our world, our.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 10: Life, and I think we had to come to the
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 10: grips of the fact that, you know, it would be
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 10: a travesty not to not to share it and not
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 10: to you know, provide some sort of like you know,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 10: information whatever and like like way and just said, we
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 10: don't all agree on everything, but the reality of it
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 10: is is that is that we're all uh bonded by
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 10: the common experiences of it, and you know, it's it's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 10: super special and you know, and it's it's worth putting
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 10: out there on some level, you know what I mean.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 10: I don't think any of us is going to try
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 10: and make money as a sasquatch experience or anytime soon.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 10: Our channel is, uh, you know, it's there for documentation,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 10: and we don't uh make content just for the sake
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 10: of making content. Very rare, we just don't do it,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 10: you know, And and if there's something worth putting out,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 10: we'll put it out there, you know. Like Kevin's been
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 10: in the public arena off and on for a while,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 10: I have for many years. But as a group that
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 10: this is a first, actually this is an absolute first
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 10: that the four of us have been on screen with anyone.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: Tommy, I'm glad with you, brother, you know.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 8: Kevin was like that was like, anyway else, see what happens.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 8: We'll see what happens. I got Kevin's here, I can't
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 8: anybody'll figure Yeah, we'll figure it out. Let's see what
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 8: who does what? But yeah, it's all good. I want
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 8: to I feel I feel honored. I thank you so
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 8: very much Kevin for reaching out to me.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 7: Rob Wayne.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 8: It's like to be nice to finally meet both of you.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 8: If I've heard about you guys, Yeah, I'm not worth
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 8: listening to.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 7: I suppose.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: If if if, if, if I'm the only one here,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: he can he can hear.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: I'll fill him in.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: Thomas Thomas making really good jokes and talking bad about you. Yeah,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: that's all that's all that's going on right now.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: So it's good to eat here.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 8: And now you turned this microphone. It's all good. Okay, gentlemen,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 8: Uh work work?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 7: Where can people check find your channel? Kevin?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 8: Tell people where they can find your channel, where they
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 8: can go and see what you guys are you know,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 8: putting out there?
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 7: Okay, The Arizona four Sasquatch experiencers on YouTube? Can you
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 7: hear me out a private face? Yes, we've we've got
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 7: a private Facebook or it's a private group, and and
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 7: that's the Arizona four. And then there's my original channel,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 7: Arizona Squatch, so you can find all this stuff upon there.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 7: I don't do a lot on.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: The I can't hear anybody, but you I can hear
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: kep Tom or Robbie. I don't know what Rob's saying,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 6: shut out everybody.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: Everybody can hear you, Kevin, I will I will uh
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: I will uh at just a little of that on
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: the on the Facebook page, it's a Z four, just
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: a Z four, the number four.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 8: Yes, yeah enough, gentlemen, that's awesome. That was That was fantastic.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 8: Who knows what you guys called what that is? What
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 8: it implies. Let people go in and let their minds run,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 8: which is here to present what it is that we've experienced,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 8: and that's to help people get it out there. That's
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: always been my motif is to make few you know,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 8: because some of these things can be very uh some
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 8: people have had very i would say, off putting experiences,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 8: and I always wanted to feel comfortable to step forward.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 8: You guys have always been very forthcoming with me, and
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 8: I really appreciate it. I appreciate the fact that you
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 8: that you all came up today and I got to
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 8: finally meet the other translator.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I speak three languages. That is English
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 7: that I'm speaking.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: He says, he's happy we're here, and he likes.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: All of us except for me. Here's Thomas.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: I would like to an invitation if you were so
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: inclined to come out here and spend a day or
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: two with us, And.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 6: I would love to come up from the jungles of that.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone has to come up from somewhere.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 10: Your next pat Army Army, US Army, he lives in
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 10: the ruins.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 8: Your former US Army soldier, Yeah, yes, former US Army soldier.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 7: Yes, I made it.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 8: The e four took my four years got out. I'm
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 8: finally getting a little bit of uh VA help from
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 8: my back and see what they do with my head.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 8: And uh I got to go see my dad. I
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 8: haven't seen him in a very long time. So that's
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 8: the next step. Get my passport done right now. Once
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 8: I get back, I finally can buy a truck. That
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 8: way I have some vehicles. And then once. That's all
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 8: kind of get my land. I got some crazy land
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 8: out here. I've had some weird experiences on once. All
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 8: that's kind of going. And then I'll come up and
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 8: see you guys. I could. I can't think of none less.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 8: Excuse me.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: You're in Pennsylvania, No, Mexico.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 7: Pennsylvania. Yeah, it's right there on the border.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: It's the border of Pennsylvania and Mexico, right right right.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah, guys, I gotta get out of here. I hope
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: you guys had a good time. I really appreciate you
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 8: came on. Kevin, thank you so much for reaching out
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 8: to me. Nice to meet both of you, both you, Robin, Wayne.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 7: And Chris. You know, uh, it's a pleasure.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: Okay, So Chris, Chris, I have no idea what anybody's saying.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: He said, it was a pleasure. Thanks for being on.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: And uh, don't call him.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: He'll call you, Tom, I'll call you.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 7: That's good money. We'll do it.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 8: We'll get up.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 6: I'll call you.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: I'm just translating.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 7: That's all I'm here for, I said, Tom.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: I'm down there again last week in August. Actually I'm
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: leaving Monday for the other side for four nights.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 7: Rocky Point.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: These guys going across the border.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, so good, All right, guys, Thank you all
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 8: very much, remember everybody, we are the I we are
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 8: the way. I Love you all, and don't forget to
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 8: check out the Arizona floor. Thank you all very much
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 8: for coming on tonight. See you later for the opportunity.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 7: It was It was my pleasure.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 8: Rod later, guys,