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AEW Hot Topics | All in the Family Carnage · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Nine Ignition five four three two one zero.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 2: Ignition with the a w Fanhab podcast team.
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  Speaker 3: This is Kelson and this is Barry. We're gonna make
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  Speaker 3: it a bit of a program change this week. Regular
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  Speaker 3: listeners to the podcast are familiar with our Potpourri segment
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  Speaker 3: which ends the show, which is kind of just a
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  Speaker 3: little go and tell of fun little things around the
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  Speaker 3: wrestling world and beyond. And we want to share with
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  Speaker 3: each other. Well, in honor of the travesty of humanity
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  Speaker 3: that ended last week's show, we are going to be
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  Speaker 3: renaming the Potpourri segment too. It's a Cafa bee where
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  Speaker 3: and we will in honor of mister himself, which you
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  Speaker 3: should see up on your screen right now, we will.
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  Speaker 3: We will reimagine the Potpourri segment into that and carry
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  Speaker 3: it forward in honor. So, Calison, why don't you kick
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  Speaker 3: us off for the first topic for today?
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  Speaker 2: The first topic for today is not look, the don
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  Speaker 2: Kallis family is falling to pieces. At least the top
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  Speaker 2: three members of the top of the don Kallis family
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  Speaker 2: or falling to pieces. Would you guys agree with that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, Sir, I wouldn't say following the pieces, but there is.
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  Speaker 4: They definitely ain't happy there. You know, things are not
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  Speaker 4: looking good between them.
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  Speaker 2: Sure they are a very combative room for improvement. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Fletcher's pissed off at well don Caallaus mostly I
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  Speaker 2: think for not handling the whole screwdriver. He got screwed
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  Speaker 2: by the screwdriver. Takeshta is pissed off at Okada. Just
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  Speaker 2: Kazu chica O Goda. See I got the name right
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  Speaker 2: this time, is flipping off everybody. Still, he just doesn't
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  Speaker 2: like everybody. You know, Uh, who do you think is?
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  Speaker 2: I mean? We all? I think it's safe to say
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  Speaker 2: and correct me if I'm wrong. I think it's safe
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  Speaker 2: to say that every one of us assumed that it
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  Speaker 2: was going to be Takeshta. That kind of was the
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  Speaker 2: catalyst of leaving the don Kallis family and turning face.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that last week or maybe two weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: I said, I made a point to say Takesha really
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  Speaker 2: hasn't done any anything face. He hasn't done anything baby face.
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  Speaker 2: He's still a cad. He just doesn't get along with
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  Speaker 2: the other cads.
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  Speaker 5: But that said, we remember we said he didn't hasn't
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  Speaker 5: really done anything over overly healish either.
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  Speaker 2: I guess you could look at it that way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's closer to I would say, you know,
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  Speaker 4: having a hangman and asked kind of deal over He's
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  Speaker 4: not a bad guy, you know, but he will do
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  Speaker 4: bad things and he will mess the mofos up. But like,
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  Speaker 4: he's not a cowardly heel. He doesn't he like Okata,
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  Speaker 4: like like like so many others in the Junon Tallis family.
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  Speaker 5: He's not a bad guy. He's not a good guy.
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  Speaker 4: He's the guy oh God. But like I think that's
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  Speaker 4: what sets to Keshill Park within the three. He doesn't
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  Speaker 4: do all the other bull craps that the other guys do.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned that that he hasn't what has he done
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  Speaker 3: to kind of start that turn, And I think that's
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  Speaker 3: a good point from a storytelling standpoint. I think fans
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  Speaker 3: sometimes let the bookers know him. They're ready to cheer
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  Speaker 3: for people. I think it's one of the reasons moxley'sa face.
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  Speaker 3: People are just ready to cheer for him again, and
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  Speaker 3: in Tak's case, people are people have been ready to
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  Speaker 3: cheer for him for a while, They respect achievements, they
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  Speaker 3: understand the g one being the new Ja pan chant matters. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and his hands. He's a handsome dude. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 3: got some handsome fellows and some good looking ladies on
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  Speaker 3: the roster for sure. But my point is so a
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  Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, I don't remember what the run
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  Speaker 3: in was for, but when he ran down initially and
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  Speaker 3: I and I they made a note to have the
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  Speaker 3: camera behind him. He actually pulled some people off to say, okay, guys, okay,
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  Speaker 3: enough enough. The point's been made. We don't need to
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  Speaker 3: keep beating this person down. I not remember, but I
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  Speaker 3: specifically noted that. And that's on top of a couple
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  Speaker 3: other things where when there are beatdowns or there's been
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  Speaker 3: run ins, he's been the last one to come in
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  Speaker 3: and hasn't really partaken. And to uh, to Christmas point,
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  Speaker 3: it's not that he's a or somebody said this just
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  Speaker 3: because he's a bad guy doesn't mean he's a bad guy.
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  Speaker 3: To steal the line from uh what was it record?
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  Speaker 2: Ralph?
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  Speaker 3: I think and I think that might be a case here,
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  Speaker 3: like yeah, he's in a heel stable, but he's not
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  Speaker 3: evil like some of them, and and and those seeds
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  Speaker 3: have been planted. So I'm interested to see how long
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  Speaker 3: or how much farther Tony kind of tiptoes around us.
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  Speaker 2: You know, really, what you just said kind of reminds
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  Speaker 2: me of something that actually Julia Hart said a few
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  Speaker 2: years ago on an episode of Dark. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: that's you know how long ago this was. She basically
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  Speaker 2: came out and said, why why do people say that
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  Speaker 2: the House of Black is evil? We're not evil. We
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  Speaker 2: just enjoy violence. And then she went on further to say,
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  Speaker 2: and this is what correlates to what you just said,
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  Speaker 2: that good people can do bad things and bad people
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  Speaker 2: can do good things. It's all perspective and it really does,
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  Speaker 2: you know, relate to professional wrestling too.
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  Speaker 3: So thus the Black was the most unhealish heel group
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  Speaker 3: there ever was because She's absolutely right. They did new
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  Speaker 3: run ins, they didn't cheat, she did the miss that's
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  Speaker 3: about the extent of it. But they they were not
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  Speaker 3: really a true heel group.
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  Speaker 2: Julia Hart was the biggest asshole in the House of
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  Speaker 2: Black by far.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was the biggest heel for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: She had the missed and the misturned other people evil.
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  Speaker 3: So, and it turned other people bad too. Yeah, she
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  Speaker 3: corrupted sky Blue.
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  Speaker 2: Well it made them have to do a lot more
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  Speaker 2: I make up at least. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So, hey, coming back to this too, and I'm sorry, MK.
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  Speaker 3: Did you have anything you wanted to add? I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to. I don't want to suck up all the
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  Speaker 3: oxygen here.
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  Speaker 6: Nope, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, good, I'm glad I checked on that.
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  Speaker 2: That's why. That's why he's the best color man in
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  Speaker 2: the business.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's why pop fly cop so. I I'm
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  Speaker 3: one of the things that's that's uh really limited some
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  Speaker 3: professional wrestling storytelling is how they kind of do inner
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  Speaker 3: organizational feuds. And what I mean by dad is on
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  Speaker 3: a TV show. You know, we love family dramas and
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  Speaker 3: the fun is seeing in dysfunctional family, right, but you
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  Speaker 3: need a pretty good sized family for that to work.
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  Speaker 3: If it's only three or four people gets boring really fast.
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  Speaker 3: The Callous Family's big enough. Now that they've got enough
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  Speaker 3: the actors, I guess, so to speak, that they can
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  Speaker 3: really flesh out this family dynamic between take Kyle and
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  Speaker 3: now Kata. I didn't expect Kyle to be put into
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  Speaker 3: this like love triangle, so to speak between the three
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  Speaker 3: of them, so he was interjected and has beef with
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  Speaker 3: Okada gear I'm really really enjoying that there is not
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  Speaker 3: just like who's going to turn face or anything like that,
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  Speaker 3: but like actual conflict within a heel stable itself, fighting
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  Speaker 3: over who's going to be in, who's going to be out.
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  Speaker 3: And if you look at the Callous family as like
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  Speaker 3: a business, and that's kind of how Don always talks
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  Speaker 3: about it, Okata is actually the one messing up the business.
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  Speaker 3: Takes doing what he's supposed to do, Kyle's doing what
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  Speaker 3: he's supposed to do, Okata is being wrote And if
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  Speaker 3: don't want to throw a real wrench into plans, I'd
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  Speaker 3: love for them to kick out Asada and make him
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  Speaker 3: do everything by himself and we'll see just how good
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  Speaker 3: he really is. Like because turning Take or Fletcher eventually faced,
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  Speaker 3: we all kind of see that coming, but like, I'd
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  Speaker 3: love to see Tony do something a little different than
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  Speaker 3: how these storylines typically play out.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the difference with Okada and other heels is
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  Speaker 2: that Okada is like a lovable heel. In other words,
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  Speaker 2: he does the stuff that you hate in the ring,
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  Speaker 2: but he also does stuff that you just can't wait
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  Speaker 2: to see. I mean, it's hard to draw a parallel,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, I guess like Chris Jericho, what he
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  Speaker 2: was at is even at his biggest heelish moments in
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  Speaker 2: WWF or WWE, you still couldn't wait to see what
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  Speaker 2: he was going to do because you knew it was
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  Speaker 2: going to be lighthearted and tongue in cheek and people
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  Speaker 2: would enjoy it. You know. But I think if you
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  Speaker 2: look at the entire family of the dog Kalish family,
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  Speaker 2: I think we can all agree that dog Collis is
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  Speaker 2: the worst parent ever.
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  Speaker 3: He's terrible dad, just the worst, horrible, second only to Goku.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, I think I did.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want to know, forget, I said that I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to do real things. He's a terrible father.
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  Speaker 3: You're right, we're not talking about it. We're not talking
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  Speaker 3: about Chris.
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  Speaker 2: We don't want Chris going off on do Japan Pro Wrestling. No,
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  Speaker 2: you know, bad boy.
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  Speaker 3: I think Jess is correct, He's or whoever said he's
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  Speaker 3: a terrible father is correct.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, let's go ahead and move on because uh, I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you.
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  Speaker 3: What unless is anything he wants to add, Yeah, can't
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  Speaker 3: you have.
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  Speaker 2: Anything to add.
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  Speaker 6: No, I think it's gonna be fun. I really, yes,
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  Speaker 6: We'll let him talk. God geez, maybe I'll just mute then,
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  Speaker 6: huh uh. No, I think it's gonna be interesting to
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  Speaker 6: see how it plays out. I don't know how I
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  Speaker 6: feel about Cletcher Fletcher and not Cletcher Fletcher being a face.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: That'll be interesting to see, but.
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  Speaker 3: I know he's months away.
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  Speaker 6: Though I know Takeshka could do it, I'm bound to
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  Speaker 6: say that name right. He can do it, he has
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  Speaker 6: the ability. But Fletcher I want to see grow a
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  Speaker 6: little bit and see how he could do. But overall,
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  Speaker 6: I don't I don't see Callous really. I mean he's
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  Speaker 6: a great he's a great guy, but Okada, I don't
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  Speaker 6: see him going on his own too, because he's better
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  Speaker 6: with Callous.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Okada and maybe even Takesha. They do
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  Speaker 2: need on American television at least. I think they need
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  Speaker 2: somebody like Callous to be by their side because I
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  Speaker 2: don't think there are one hundred percent comfortable with the
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  Speaker 2: English language yet, and it's, you know, a shame. I
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  Speaker 2: think when you look at Takesha Okada, I think Calous
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  Speaker 2: family has been really good for them.
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  Speaker 4: Just for that reason, I will say Okada's English is
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  Speaker 4: better than he.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I understanding it.
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  Speaker 4: Of it is too, oh for sure, But that goes
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  Speaker 4: to his character the whole Oh no, I trust the
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  Speaker 4: wrong button.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking the other day too, when he if
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  Speaker 3: callous kicks him out. I'd love to see a sad
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  Speaker 3: Okada couple of weeks where like he's all almost on.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody laughs at him. He's a loser or whatever, but
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't really need to change his character. Coming back
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  Speaker 3: to what you were saying, Kelson, he can just be
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  Speaker 3: the goofy like loser of the elite again, enjoy back
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  Speaker 3: up with them. He could be the same Okada do
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  Speaker 3: the same stupid, dastardly stuffed But to your point, he's
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  Speaker 3: not really evil or a bad guy. He's just heal ish,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you know who has character kind of
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  Speaker 4: reminds me of right now and Guerrero that where.
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  Speaker 3: He does that's a really good Yas.
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  Speaker 4: I see that, people still kind of just.
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  Speaker 3: Like what Helston was saying earlier, Yeah, because we're looking
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  Speaker 3: forward to seeing how he's gonna cheat forward to.
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  Speaker 2: It, Yeah, and innovative ways to get an A on
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  Speaker 2: your test. There you go. Yeah, anyway, what's one?
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  Speaker 5: I have one more little angle, if I may go ahead?
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  Speaker 4: What if? What if.
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  Speaker 5: This is the we're going on the assumption that callous
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  Speaker 5: will eventually get sick of Okata. I see it differently,
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  Speaker 5: like I see Okada as like the favorite child in
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  Speaker 5: the family who can do all sorts, some heinous stuff
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  Speaker 5: and get away with it, and he knows it.
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  Speaker 2: I say that I feel that way too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I completely agree.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely the favorite son. Takesha is the redheaded stepchild.
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Fletcher is say his old name, Chris.
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  Speaker 4: The proto star, Kyle Herbert Hawker, Mountain dew Elisondo Fletcher.
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  Speaker 6: He has middle child's in your own.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, he really does. That's a good point. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: let us move on because I want to talk about
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  Speaker 2: Mercedes Monet has announced that she's going to be taking
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  Speaker 2: some time off from AW How long that's going to
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  Speaker 2: be Probably not too long, because Mercedes Monet is addicted
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think she can. I don't think that
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  Speaker 2: Mercedes Monet physically can stay out of a wrestling ring
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  Speaker 2: for more than a month. I really don't, So I
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  Speaker 2: do expect her back by at the latest double or
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  Speaker 2: nothing in March. But yep, here's the thing though, when
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  Speaker 2: you're looking at the AW women's division, you've got Willow
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  Speaker 2: Knightingale as the TBS champion and as one half of
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  Speaker 2: the women's Tag Team Champions with Harley Cameron. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: you've got Chris Statlander as the women's World champion. With
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  Speaker 2: Mercedes man Monette gone, do you feel that somebody needs
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  Speaker 2: to step up or do they need to bring somebody
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  Speaker 2: in or introduce a new major storyline because I just
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  Speaker 2: want to get you guys your opinions on this.
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  Speaker 5: You know what, I think. I really hope whatever's keeping
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  Speaker 5: Chitah out of AW gets resolved sooner rather than later,
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  Speaker 5: because I really miss her and I think she'd be
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  Speaker 5: great to fill that role while Mercedes is gone.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm part in terms of heel stepping
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  Speaker 4: up Techlan. You know, Sisters of Sin have already kind
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  Speaker 4: of done that, and I think that'll be the story
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  Speaker 4: going forward for a little bit with those six because
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  Speaker 4: I see them winning the trios match on Wednesday. But uh,
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  Speaker 4: one thing about Mercedes gone from ae W doesn't mean
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  Speaker 4: gone from wrestling to be he's just not going to
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  Speaker 4: show up on AW. She's going to show up everywhere else,
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  Speaker 4: everywhere that she holds a title. That's where she's gonna go.
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  Speaker 4: And she's gonna just leave the AW fans who are
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  Speaker 4: unappreciative assholes behind because absence makes the heart grow fonder.
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  Speaker 4: So when she comes back at Revolution, because I think
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  Speaker 4: she's gonna be, I think she'll stay gone for longer
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  Speaker 4: than a month from a W because she'll have all
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  Speaker 4: that other work.
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  Speaker 2: I think I said double or nothing. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what I was thinking.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that's when she comes back and
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  Speaker 4: you know, sets her fights on Statlander again. And I
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  Speaker 4: think it would be probably about right because Revolution is March,
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  Speaker 4: mid March, late March.
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  Speaker 2: I can't really I think, miss I think I think
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  Speaker 2: it's mid March. I think it's the sixteenth, if I'm
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  Speaker 2: not mistaken of March.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so yeah, probably be mid April. Best guess So
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  Speaker 4: what Statlander won the title?
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  Speaker 2: So you're looking you're looking for Mercy long term, No,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm thinking your indititionally, you're thinking, when Mercedes comes back,
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  Speaker 2: she needs to go after Chris Stalin.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the one title she has not won. Because I
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  Speaker 4: think in this time of way, she's going to lose
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  Speaker 4: a lot more of those titles. So when she comes back,
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  Speaker 4: she's not going to just be desperate for gold. She's
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  Speaker 4: going to be desperate for top gold. And I think
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  Speaker 4: it's going to drive her.
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  Speaker 2: But you but you see it as Christatlanders.
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  Speaker 4: See.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to see Chris Statlander Mercedes Monet. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want Mercedes Monee to take a sabbatical or hiatus
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  Speaker 2: or whatever you want to call it, of any length
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  Speaker 2: and come back and pick up right where she left off.
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  Speaker 2: That me is boring. I want something else. I want
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  Speaker 2: somebody else to call her out. Do you go? Go ahead?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So she's she's going with the Beast Mortos on a
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  Speaker 3: little celebratory vacation. The Esquire Esquire now right, because he
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  Speaker 3: graduated last I.
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  Speaker 2: Believe his title is officially Beast Mortars Beast Mortos, Rara Law.
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  Speaker 3: So I I thought when she said time away, I thought,
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  Speaker 3: literally until this segment, that they were just going on
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  Speaker 3: vacation for a couple weeks to celebrate. It wasn't until
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  Speaker 3: you started talking as like, oh, maybe she is gonna
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  Speaker 3: be some actual time off. But I'm kind of with you, Kelson,
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  Speaker 3: I would like her to do something different. I think
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  Speaker 3: there's some interesting talent on TV that i'd like to
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  Speaker 3: see her mix it up with that she hasn't had
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  Speaker 3: a chance across paths with while she's out. I would
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  Speaker 3: love to see someone like Red Velvet or Athena take
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  Speaker 3: some of that airtime. Especially Red Velvet. I'm really high
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  Speaker 3: on her. She's really pretty, she's got a good move set,
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  Speaker 3: she's got a lot of charisma. I think she's somebody
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  Speaker 3: that deserves another shot on the big shows. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm with you. I'd like to see her when she
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  Speaker 3: comes back, work with somebody new, at least out of
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  Speaker 3: the gate for a short term program for sure.
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  Speaker 2: What about anybody looking for somebody new a debut to
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  Speaker 2: take up some not not necessarily become a title contender,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: but take up some time. Look, AW was revealed, you know,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I think about two months ago tod Aw signed Lena Cross.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Today it was revealed by Fightful that AW was signed Todovic,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: an indie veteran really good smooth wrestler. If you're not
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: familiar with her, with good size, supermodel looks, with good size,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: very smooth, as I said, could This be the time
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: to bring back somebody like a car osheta Emmi soakera
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Britt even Britt Baker. This would be an optimal time
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: to bring If you're gonna do something with Britt, this
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: would be the time to do it. And again, you
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: have Toadovic, you have you have Lena Cross, You've got
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: different women that are available. This is the time maybe
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: to give Hey maya world in high end, get a
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: couple of impressive wins. Do you actually bring back somebody
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: that is in AW that hasn't wrestled as much? For example,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Anna Jay, get her contract status straightened out and bring
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: her back and make her a player in the grand
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: scope of aw's fortunes. Look, I've said it before and
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I'll say it again. It's great that AW has a
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: very good women's division. But if you're just going to
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: run the same stories with the same women over and
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: over again, it's gonna get boring. I mean, how how
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: long has the Trigle of Madness been feuding with another
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: person that I left out? Queen Amanada, Queen Amenada and
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: the conglomeration and you know whatever I mean, It's been
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: since like September. You know, it's going to be February soon.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Five months is too long for a story that has
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: absolutely no resolution in sight, so you've got to wrap
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: it up.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: In my opinion, I really think t go ahead.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: No, go ahead, MK, I want you to go.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: I really think it's time to let Megan Baan step up.
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: She has proven herself a good heal, a good worker.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: She's put over a lot of people, and I think
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: I really want to see her be Willow myself. But
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: just those type of wrestlers who haven't got a chance.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: But Megan Bain thekla is one I think could use
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: a title. She's a great talker, She's done a lot
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: of stuff. So they just need to really come out
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: with fine new wrestlers because a youth movement needs to
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: move up a little bit.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: In my opinion, Megan taking that title from Willow, I
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: think it's a really good call. Okay, I think that
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: would be likely smart move too.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if there's somebody to take it, that makes sense.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: And I think the fans, the fan I think would
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: share her as a champion in a way that is
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: similar to some of the other folks we were talking
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: about earlier, Like it would not be hard for her
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: to be a face either or just a tweeter that
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: doesn't need to cheat to win, just beats people up
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: like brock Lesser.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: She's been doing a bunch of really cute stuff with
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Penelope on social media.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a smart call. Okay, that's my point. I
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: want to give you props from that. That's a smart call.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: I think they talked about that last week, makeing pain,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: you know, like we were mentioning challenges for Willow. You know,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: who could take that title if it is a god
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: I forget the term, like the champion who doesn't last transition,
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: if this was a transitional rain. Yeah, I think we
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: talked about making Bain would be the perfect person to
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: take the title off of Willow. But I think the
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: division as a whole right now, the problem is there
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: is a ton of talent, but there is a wide
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: gap in the general perception of talent. You've got you know, Willow,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: stat Lander, Tech, Mercedes, They're the tippy top of the division.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: And then you've got like Harley's Sisters of Sin, Jamie Hayter,
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Queen Almanada right there kind of behind them. But then
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: it's kind of like, Okay, the rest of them are
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: you know, not super important, Like if we see them,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: we kind of know who's winning, who's losing. Like, I
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: think that you have to kind of they need to
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: build up more talent. And Mercedes being gone, you know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: if it's the perfect time to use her to do that.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: It's an opportunity, it's an opportunity.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Take it because there's not one talent who can I mean,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: maybe a Caitar Seater or Britt Baker were to come back,
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: they could kind of be seen at that level. But
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: outside them, there's no one wrestler who can fill that
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: TV time and be as effective. So use it to
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: build up the rest of this division.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, Kelson, I think that I've got a good
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: segue into the next segment that picks up where we're
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: leaving off here. If you want to move on.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: To that, I want to make a couple of points,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: But then I'll go back to you. Alex Winsor just
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: spent about two or three weeks in stardom, which I
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: think is very beneficial to Alex Windsor because look, my
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: point that I'm making here is that we have in
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: a w a lot of women in the in the
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: locker room, that are doing nothing. They're literally not doing
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: anything again, anna Ja being one of them, Tamello being
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: another one, Tya Valkyrie really not doing much in our
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: wage or a uh, get them, send them over to
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the stardom or or on the indies or something. Get
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: them out there and have them wrestling. That's how you
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: get better. You don't get better by, you know, sitting
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: in the locker room. Now I'm speaking, of course, out
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: of complete ignorance, because I don't know what they're doing
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: in the locker room. They could be wrestling their asses
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: off in training and stuff like that. You know, they
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: could be going to the NJPW dojo for all I know.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: But my point is, it's, as we said earlier, opportunities.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Chris brought that up. You know, if you've got an
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: opportunity to have them wrestle, get them out there and
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: have them wrestle, you know, because I want to see
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: more of the women wrestle in aw the point I'm
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: making here, and I think this is something that I'll
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: bring up in the next segment. So I'm gonna let
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Barry bring us into the next segment. Barry, I'm better
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: let you bring us into the next segment.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're blabbing to myself doing the Memel mute, so
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: you were. You were hitting on it too.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Here.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Part of building up more women is TV time, and
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: they're given one or two segments a show, and it's difficult.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: So AW recently has been doing more mixed gender matches
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: and it is a roundabout way to feature more women
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: on television.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: In general, I'm not a big fan of intergender matches
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: because it just makes me uncomfortable. It has to be
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: the right type of people, and I think AW generally
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: has picked the right time of right kind of performers
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: where I've enjoyed the matches they've done. But even if
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I don't, I do think it's a really good way
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: to get more women on TV. And you're starting to
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: see more of the female performers involved in some of
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: the male stables. I think it's done wonders for Marina Shaffer.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Having heard with the Death writers who're showing Tony Storm
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: interacting with conco omoration, I think it's only a matter
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: of time before Don Kallis adds a female member to
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: that roster. It's been it's been needed for a while now.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: All of the mixed tags. You've got top Flight now
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: added I forgot the new performer's name since Ley was out.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: The new signee top Flight is Skyflight. That Skyflight and
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: that's Zeta Steel.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Zeta Steele. Uh getting more on TV and outside of
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: just a valet role. Well, the easiest way to do
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: that mixed tag matches. So I thought that was that
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: was an interesting way to move into this topic and
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: interested to hear what others think about that.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I do want to point out one thing before others
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: make their point here in the last couple of months,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I went and looked at it last night. Actually, in
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: the last couple of months, AW really hasn't had that
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: many uh one on one women's matches, UH five to
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: be exact, uh you had in recent we Marina Shapper
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: and uh Mina shir Kala, Mina shir Kala and Lady
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Frost have went out it this week, but there's really
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: not been anything other than other than Willow and Mercedes
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Moon that went fifteen minutes. Some of these matches have
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: been five minutes or even squashes. A lot of the
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: time of that AW is doing the Women's Wrestling presenting
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: women's wrestling. It's either been in these intergender or mixed
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: gender matches, or just those gigantic three on three, four
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: on four, five on five, you know, twenty on twenty.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: You know, I think AW. I kind of with Barry.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I don't necessarily like mixed gender matches. They do make
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: me a little bit uncomfortable as well, But I think
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: AW needs to get back to girls grappling and not
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: boys and girls grappling. That's just my opinion.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: I don't mind it. I think the way they do
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: it is unique because you don't really see any power
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: moves being put on the male, and the men aren't
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: doing any power moves on the females. They're not doing
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: the finishers or not doing that. They're doing hits and
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: tacks and stuff like that. I think that's a way
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: to do it. But a lot of these people like
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: stat Lander have a history in Megan Bain and stuff,
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: have a history of fighting against man. But I'm with you, guys.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: It does make me a little uncomfortable, but I'm glad
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: they say that they do it in a way that's
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: better and more palatable.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I think they've done a good job in the matches
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: they've had, Like I don't fear Marina Shaffir squaring off
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: against somebody because I know she legitimate how to handle herself,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: and she's presented that way. Statlanders, same thing, Jamie Hater,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: same thing, Megan bain Willow. Those are women that in
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: real life I believe could probably could probably handle themselves enough. Right,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: So that's most of who they've done it with, and
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: they've they've been pretty smart on most of the spots too.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: But I just you know, I couldn't see Julia hard
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: up against Moxley or something like that. That's the kind
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: of stuff that, yeah, I don't think they'd ever do that,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: but like that's where there's just matchups where it can
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: just pull you out of a fun match real quick time.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Well, even back in the day when China was in
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: the w W F WWE, I forget who it was.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I want to say it was Steve stone Cold. Steve
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Austin did an interview about China wrestling in the ring
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: with men and she they were like, she couldn't hang.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, the thing is, okay, I.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Forget it.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Could have good been. But my point is is that
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: that's how we injuries happen, you know. And I'm not
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: saying if you're trying not to hurt somebody, you're risking
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: getting hurt yourself. I don't. Here's the other thing that
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I wanted to bring up when I read and I
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: forget where I read it, but I know that I've
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: seen it a couple times. When AW was what there
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: was rumblings about AW actually developing a women's World Tag
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Team Championship. There were also rumblings about a mixed gender championship.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I hope they don't go that way. I sincerely hope
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: they don't go that way. It would kind of be
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: a laughing stock kind of thing. We don't need a
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: mixed gender matches. We need better men's matches and we
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: need better women's matches. And when I say by better,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I mean matches that means something that I have story
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: behind them and have a build.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: May I say something you?
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: May? I am.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: With the with the Basically, I'm the only woman in
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: the room here right now.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I love it. Basically. Basically, Barry you trying to is
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: there something about you we don't know.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: It's under your business?
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: Go ahead, Jess, Yeah, only woman in the room right now.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: I'm not uncomfortable with it at all. I've believed for
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: a long time, like before aw even existed, that inter
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: gender wrestling was the wave of the future. It was
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: happening all the time on the indies, and I thought
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: it was like, really exciting. I believe if a woman
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: is willing to mix it up with a guy, more
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: power to her, and she shouldn't be belittled or neither
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: should the guy for having a match.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying. I'm not saying that.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: I never said you were, but I am saying, you
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: know who likes to pooh pooh the idea of women's wrestling.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Women don't say don't say that name on this podcast, I'll.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: Boot you, but I will just say a certain lifetime achievement,
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: shut the hell up, award winner?
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Is this one? Is this this person's name has
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: anything to do with the way MGF eats corn the
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: long way? I think we all know you're talking about. Yeah,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: we're not. I don't want to cheap in this podcast,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: but even mentioning.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Back on topic, back on topic, back on topic, I
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: completely agree with Jess. I am not uncomfortable with it.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: I think you know, hey, it's two competitors signing up
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: to compete, and because we all know wrestling is scripted,
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: so and that's say and that the wrestlers work together.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: So when you think about that, it becomes a lot
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: less like, oh, I don't know about this, like in
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: real life, Like if it was a straight up fight, yeah,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: I'd probably feel pretty uncomfortable about it. But it's is
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: scripted entertainment. They're working together, so that that kind of
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: you have to remember that, and like you're walking for entertainment.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: If you want to watch real fights, watch the UFC.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Like pro wrestling is not for real fights. It's for entertaintaining,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: stimulated fights with crazy, over the top moves that no
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: one would ever do in real life.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's kind of my point, Chris, is that
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: if you're going to do something as uh as I
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: don't even know the word I'm looking for, if you're
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: going to do something like putting in a mixed gender
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: you know, championship, then you're gonna have to have more
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: mixed gender matches. And I just feel that if you're
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: gonna have a lot of mixed gender matches, it's gonna
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: reveal some weaknesses. Uh, I mean, are the women just
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: going to be because they're not gonna be able to
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: body slam most of the women on the roster. I
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: don't believe we're gonna be able to because Rio are
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: going to be able to body slam, zoots, go kata.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: You know, is no exactly, but my point is yeah,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: but again, but when you have somebody like Nila Rose,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: you're also looking at somebody who hasn't been on TV
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: for a while. Why, because there's limitations there. I really
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: do believe that that's nothing against Nila Rose. As I'm
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: saying is, I don't want to see a bunch of
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: matches where the end move is a woman kicking Roderick Strong,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Marina Shafir kicking Roderick Strong in the nuts. I don't
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: want to see that. I want to see wrestling. And
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: the more you put these matches out, the more you're
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: gonna see the limitations of what the women can do
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: to men in the ring and what the men can
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: do to women in the ring. Because you're not going
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: to have violence of men on women. Violence. I'm sorry,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna have that. It's not gonna go over well,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: it's not gonna go over well.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: I don't want I don't want those titles to be
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: a thing either. I don't want like every show to
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: have a inter gender match. I'm simply saying that if
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: the right story presents itself, I would have no issue
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: with a you know, Chris Statlander versus m JF, Max,
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: John Moxley, Matt you know.
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: Optics.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, if you look at rig of Honor
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: and you look at AW, it's clear. It's clear. As
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: very brought up earlier, you have Zeta Steel with Skyflight,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: You've got Lacy Lane now with the Crew, You've got
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Ty of Valkyrie with MXM collection. You've got Willow of course,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: and Willow and stat Lander have at times been with
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: the Conglomeration, but now that they have belts, it's now
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Tony Storm really with the Conglomeration, and to a lesser extent,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: maybe Mina Shirakawa. You've got a lot of women, and
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: you've got a lot of mixed tag teams and in
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: aw which is not a bad thing. I'm just saying
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: you can't overdo it, and you certainly can't come up
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: with a belt because I just don't think that it
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: will be it's and it would be a mistake simply
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: because I want to see women. I enjoy women wrestling,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: actual women wrestling, adding something like this would just take
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: away from the women's storylines, women's matches, and women's titles.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: But if I make counterpoint, you've said many many times
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: that small petite Joshi women could easily kick your butt.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: That's right, But because small, small petit women, small petit
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Joshi women could easily kick my butt, Eddie Kingston's butt
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: because neither one of us can wrestle, Hey, that was unnecessary.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: The truth hurts shot, yeah to see it, Okay, And as.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: My point was, if you believe a small petite Joshi
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: woman could easily kick your butt, why couldn't a small
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: petit Joshi woman easily kick anyone's butt?
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying there, Jess, and I do
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: agree with your rejo or really anybody from stardom. These
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: small petite Joshi women they could kick by, but they
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: could kick, but they're not going to be able to do.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Why would you want to see that on a weekly basis?
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: Or No, I disagree.
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: I'd rather see the small petite Joshi women from stardom
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: beat the crap or vice versa, the AWO beat the
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: crap out of these small patit.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Joshi women from stardom that's what I want to see.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see wasted space and frankly, mixed
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: gender matches to be you're a waste of time. They're
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: a novelty match. They are a novelty match. There's no
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: place for them, and a long storyline where you have
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: not just I mean, don't get me wrong, A long
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: storyline with a couple of teams is fine. But if
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: you have all these teams that A w and Ring
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: of Honor have and they're going to be building a
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: mixed gender uh championship story, to me, that's taking away
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: from what the women and both the men and the
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: women are doing on the more important titles.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: I feel like maybe they're getting stuck on that title
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: scene and thinking like us saying we want to see
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: inner gender matter, meaning we want to see that title happen,
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: which is absolutely not the case for me. I'm simply
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: saying I don't mind those kinds of matches like you
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: guys do. Like is, they don't make me uncomfortable. I
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: don't want to see them every week, but I don't
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: dislike them when they happen, you know, and if it
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: gets more people, especially more women's wrestlers on TV. I
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: am all for it.
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: I don't think I think you're in the mind. You
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: guys are in the minority. I don't think Number one
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: the network doesn't want to see that. I don't. I'm
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: pretty sure, and I don't think a lot of other
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: fans do. I wouldn't want to go to a show
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: and watch that match. It's just not something that was
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: on a paper, it was on a pay per view.
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't watch it or TV show. It's just not
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: something I want to see because it's limited moves. It
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: belongs on the Andies, and it's been done on the Andies,
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: but I just I just don't see it on major,
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: major network television.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: So you use the term novelty match earlier, and I
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: think I think that's that's where this needs to sit.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of different match types, and it's not wrong.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Infinity likes those. I don't really care for the hardcore
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: founder matches, but they do them because a lot of
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: people like them, and they can be fun. But they
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: don't need a title for that. They can just do it.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: And I think that's that's kind of where this should live.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: It's just as a novelty if you've got two factions
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: feuding with each other and they have female members. You know,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: you can you can run it that way. So it
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: makes sense because it's two things feuding. But as far
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: as a division or a regular thing, it needs to stay.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: When they do it, it should be special.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly my point. I mean, I mean, if
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: you could do it where there's a story behind it
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: and it's special, But if you try to do it
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: where there's actually steaks behind it, like a title Matt titles,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I think you're just taking away from men's and women's matches.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: You know, I just don't like it.
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: You know, honestly, I swore that it was we were
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: going to end up seeing Nina versus Orange until Orange
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: pull the Tommy Dreamer. I'll take them both. I'm whatever.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, of course, the biggest mystery of
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: all and this is probably gonna be something you know,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: it's a is who gave Bin a shir kawa those flowers?
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Stay tuned. I'm bringing that up and it's akab what
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Let's move on. I don't berry you've you had some
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: stuff that you said about this on our discord server.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: By the way, our discord server or linked to our
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Discord server is right there on your screen if you're
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: watching this, of course, right by Max Casters. That is
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: the subreddit name, So please be sure to join us
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: on Discord and join us on the aw fan Up subreddit.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: But you've got You've got Max Caster and Anthony Bowens,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: formerly known as the Acclaimed, and they're starting to mesh.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Do you think that you claim they're going to get
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: back together? And if so, if they do get back together,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: do they need a big run like a dominant I
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: think so.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: And you know why because because everyone loves the Acclaimed
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: scissor me, I'm I'm not going there again.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: I'm not doing that.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: I first off, the story, the storyline's been awful. I
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: just want to get that out there, and they've just
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: done a terrible job with it. And that's unfortunate because
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: I think Max Caster's character is incredible what he has done.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: I called it months ago that he'd get people channing
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: and he'd be a babyface, and that's what happened. I
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: think his character is incredible. It's just it's it will
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: forever be stuck in the low mid card as a
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: comedy act, because that's the get, that's the gat. So like,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I think the fans are ready to cheer him as
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: a face. Bowen's this thing, I don't know if it
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: just flopped, is what they tried, but it wasn't working out,
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: and so they got this the storyline coming with them
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: back together, and Bowens has been the one to refuse
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: to do any of like the callback stuff. And I
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: think on collision in the Sixth Man, that was the
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: first time he scissored since they broke up. Am I
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: wrong about that?
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure you're okay.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: And if that happened, I think they're finally going to
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: push fast forward and just wrap this thing up soon,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: get them back together, you know. I think keeping their
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: characters where they're kind of an odd couple who hates
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: each other could be interesting for a while but still
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: does the moves that everybody loves. But I think it's
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: time to wrap this up and get them back together.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: And they're just not strong enough a singles competitors of
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: what they try.
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: I hate to say it, so go ahead. I hate
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: to say it, but I think Anthony Bowenes is the
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: weak link and he's not ready to go out on
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: his own. I like the claim I would this is
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: just me personally, but I would like to see a
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: third person added to that that's not Billy Gunn, a
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: little bit more of that group so they can have
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: a little bit more back and forth and have it
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: in between person But I just I just think that
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: Anthony Bowens is not the superstar that a W thought
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: he was, and maybe they need to find different route.
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: I totally disagree with that. I think Anthony Bowens is fantastic.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he's better or worse than Max Caster.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I think that Anthony Bowens is ready and he's been ready,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: and they just need to give him something to do.
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: I just don't think he has the same charisma as
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: Max Caster.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, well that's your opinion, spare Barry. I wanted to
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: ask you something real quick. You said that part of
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: my innerns here you said that Max Caster and Anthony
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Bowen scizzared. I tried to find it. I couldn't find it,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I asked, I asked, Barry, and I can't underhear. I
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: understand what two people are.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Bowens was in the six match castor wasn't in the
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: match with him? I don't remember who the six man was.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: It was him and there was a six man on
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: collision jet speed. That's right, and he took the pen. Yeah,
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: so he uh, he's scissored with jets.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: That was the first, okay, because I could remember.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: He wouldn't do it anytime Max or anybody else to ask,
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: but he did it. He did it with Jesse.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense that as I was specifically looking
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: for Anthony Bowens and Max casters you know. And I
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: can't believe that I'm saying this on a podcast, you know,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: looking for Max Anthony Boones and Max castering Scissory. Okay, what.
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: A different website.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: I'm curious have you watched the like short deals they
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: put on YouTube with these two with the acclaim like,
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: have you watched any of those?
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Those? Those are really good? Those are really good I've seen.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: If it's good enough, it should be on TV. Though
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: is always important it should be on TV.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, guys, one person's speak at a time, because I'm
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: sure nobody can understand anything that anybody is saying.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: I agree with you that if it is, it should
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: be on TV. But I think four people who have
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: watched those the storyline is a lot more fun than
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: people who don't see those which we can get into
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: the whole. You know, Okay, that's it should be on TV,
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: but you give people free content during the week, blah
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: blah blah. I think that is the difference between enjoying
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: the story and just kind of wanting to get it over,
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: because those segments have really helped develop the whole thing
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: with them to the point where I'm ready to see
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: them get back together. Like you know, have a have
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: one of those tag tournaments like the one that we
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: got the bro Shot shows from, and they end up
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: team together and they win it, and you know, it's
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: a whole great who they're back together.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: So, Barry, you said that you had not really seen
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: these backstage vignettes as much. Do you, but you have
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: seen them? Do you think that these are something that
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: should be on TV.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: If it's central to the story or or it's a
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: story that most people say is bad that if people say, oh,
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: but if you've seen the video stuff, it's good, then
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: I think that's a mistake. They should have that stuff
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: on TV. There's a lot of creative stuff they do
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: I've seen. I just don't have the time or the
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: interest to want to find this stuff. If it's good
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: it should be on the TV show.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. What about everybody else? I mean,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: have you seen these vignettes that Bowens and Castor have done,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: and what do you think do they deserve to be
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: on TV?
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: I have not, and yeah, they should be on TV.
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: You shouldn't have to go like hunting down things that
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: are important to this story.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: They're very reminiscent of mjf and Adam Cole when they
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: were first starting to get together. They're like team building
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: exercises almost. Would that Chris? Do you think that's a
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: good description.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely think that's a good description. I mean,
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: like this last one had to setting up the ring
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: and chairs and working the merch booth and you know,
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: like and it worked because it's like how we found
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: a rhythm. We figured out, you know, he's good at this,
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: I'm good at that. So we we did that and
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: it kind of like was showing like we're not friends,
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: Like they're still they're still not buddies, they're not they're
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: not a team. Uh. Bowens said, I think I see
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: him as an acquaintance and Castor, you know, because he
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: is the kind of dick ahead of the group. He's like,
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: I don't hate his guns, Like that was the nicest
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: thing he could say, where Bowen's was like, yeah, an acquaintance.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: I do think they absolutely deserted should be on TV,
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: and I think they showed up. They've shown like shorter
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: edited persons. I think on collision of a couple of them.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Oh well, well, unfortunately Berry had to leave uh for
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: for work purposes. But I want to move on to
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: I'm sure what everybody has been waiting for it. Does
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: anybody have anything? Does anybody have anything?
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: For sure? I'll do the kind of a cafab Jill.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: January nineteenth, The Young the New Japan Pro Wrestling Young
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: Lion Cup returns with There are six competitors, Showma, Cuttle
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: and Tamut what is his first name?
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, you have nothing, you have nothing prepared.
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: I'm just drawing a blank. Maurashima the best young Lion
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: of them all, the big bar. They both have a
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: draw into the buy into the first round because they
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: are the most senior of the Young Lions and the
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: first round matches will take place on the nineteenth at
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: Cork and Hall and then in the finals I believe
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: the next night at Cork and Hall again, and then
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: I have to look to double check when the finals
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: are maybe at the New Beginning show in Osaka, which
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: is the eleventh of February, maybe I think, Yeah, Young
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: Lion Cup coming back. It's been going for a few years.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I have something that I want to talk
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: about and it is a it is, but I'm I'm
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: on the verge of tears here because my my I
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: ate fully, I had fully intended on marrying that's a
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: boy when I grow up, But yesterday it was announced
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: that she got married to Shingle Takagi. Uh.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: Good for you, though.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: It's sad for me. But you know, me being the shallow,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: shallow asset that I am, I now have to find
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: another petit Joshi wrestler to give my devotion for because
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: I was very, very very devoted to and that's a poy,
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: you know. But I will not impede on another man's love.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to I'm going to be a man
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: about this, and I'm going to step aside and let
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: that's a boy have her marriage to that little whatever
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: he is, you know, you know, but well yeah I
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: don't care. I mean, he does nothing for me. He's
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: no he's no Takashta. I'm sorry, but I mean, I
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: kinda it's it. Maybe it's not too soon either. I mean,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: she just she just became unavailable yesterday. But I'm already looking.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, I I I'm does anybody here know if
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: sorry you know, is single?
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure, but I do think I have a
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: suggestion for you, the cutest wrestler in the whole wide world,
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: for you to adore Speedball Mike Bailey.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: I know she's speedball. Mike Bailey is not a Joshie
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Josie woman. I'm sorry.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: He's really cute and he's small, but he's also married.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he is married. And I want to peede
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: on another woman even if I even if I swung
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: that way, I would not impede on another woman. And
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: you know, man so but I don't swing that way.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: So it is very important to me that I find, hey,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Pat Josie women's wrestler, which Mike Bailey is not one. Besides,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I could never get past the mouthpiece anywhere is it
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: looks it looks like he has chicklets in his in
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: his mouth. I like Bakio, but I couldn't handle Bakio.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, nobody can handle Bakia and you know, go
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: for it. I need for you guys to find the
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: love of my life. SAA know SAIDI is not my type.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: She's she's uh that is a woman that scares the
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: death out of me. Because, by the way, Bozilla, I
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: hope she hope she's doing well. She did get injured
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: the other night. Looks like a legan read possibly a
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: knee injury. She's already been uh. Stardom has also already
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: announced that she's not going to be on their forthcoming show,
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: So she is injured. Starlight Kid, she looks kind of cute,
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: but I have to see her face. She's got unmasked
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: for me, you know. And the other thing aboute No,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: but the other thing about Starlight Kids. See the reason
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: I said sorry A knew, and that's a poise because
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: they're in their thirties. I want somebody in their thirties.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: I don't want somebody in their twenties. I mean, come on,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, if you saw me, I need
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: somebody in there who's in their thirties because that means
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: that their eyesight's probably failing and I'll look better to.
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: Them, not that weird.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't want to go for because there's
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: some cuties. There's some cuties in ah in stardom that
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: are much too young, and Starlight Kid is one of them,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: you know. Bringing up Starlight Kid. You know, it's kind
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: of a funny story that I saw just this week
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: because she was asked in an interview who she would
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: like to wrestle, because she did mention in this interview
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: that she wanted to come and wrestle overseas, meaning in
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: the United States, and she was told she was asked,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: who would you like to wrestle in the United States,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: and kind of in an roundabout way, she said EO Sky. Now,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: she went on to say that she wrestled EO Sky before,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: but EO Sky was very very young when the latter
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: when they wrestled before. And I'm taking to myself, huh.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: So I actually went and looked it up. The first
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: time that Starlight Kid and Yo Sky wrestled was on
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: January third, twenty sixteen. I was in a I think
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: it was like a four on four tag batch, three
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: on three tag batch, and they were on opposite sides.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Of course, EO Sky at that time, this was not
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: a start of match but at the time she was
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: going by the name Eosharai and Eyosky at that point
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: of that match, was twenty five years old, which is young. Yeah,
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: you know, she was young. But the thing that killed
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: me about it was when Sky Starlight Kid says that
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Yo Sharai was young when they wrestled. When they wrestled
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: that match, Starlight Kid was fourteen. Right now, Starlight Kid
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: isn't as old as Yosherai was when they wrestled that match.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: She's still only twenty four. So I just thought that
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: that was kind of funny that you would say, oh,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Yo Sharai was very young. I was like, no, you
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: were very young. So anyway, does anybody else have a
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: go ahead?
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: Chris, I think on that both had only been wrestling
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: for a few years, like Starlight Kids started crazy on
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: where theo Sky didn't start till she was a little
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: bit older. So I think that's probably more what she
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: meant by young, like both of them were young, like
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: experience wise exactly. I mean, yeah, you look if.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: You look at if you look at Stardom, I mean
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: you've got Starlight Kid who's twenty four, Azumi who's I
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: think twenty three. I think she's a little bit younger
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: than start Like Kid. They basically started at the same time.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Rina and he and are only eighteen. I think it's
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: four years yeah, Azuza Nava's eighteen. They've got a lot
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: of wrestlers who are very young, who already have one hundred,
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: two hundred matches under their belt. I mean, go, Starlight
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Kid is twenty four, and go look on how many
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: matches she's wrestled in. She want some more matches. It's
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: like she's wrestle more matches in her career. I guarantee
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: you she's wrestled more back in her career at twenty four.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Then I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Tony Storm, yeah, I was wrestled entire with just Japanese
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: wrestling in general.
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  Speaker 2: They mean it's insane, pretty hard.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: Schedule because they do all those tours. It's like they may,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: you know, there may only be one televised event for
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: the week, or and it may only be toor highlights,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: but they're doing for sometimes five shows in a week.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: You it's a crazy You want to spend some good
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: you want to spend some good money, go on startom World,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: which is startom streaming service, and it costs I believe
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: it's six ninety nine a month somewhere around there. Uh
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: for the service, and my god, every week you get
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: like so many matches because it's like every other day
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: they're wrestling. I mean, it's just unbelievable. Okay, you had
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: a but it's a ka. I'm sorry free, it's caa.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. I want to number one real quick, say congratulations
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  Speaker 6: to used to be Jake something on becoming all the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: Last now Jake o'doyle rules. Uh the joke last week
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: on the on the thread. But my main topic is
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: congratulations to the Young Bucks forgetting that pop of when
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: they were Jack Perry's Tag Tag team partners. They got
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: that pop that they deserve in their back and it's
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: good to see that they can go from from heel
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: to face quickly and they're accepted as it. It worked
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 6: their planing work.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was good, and they just squeal This is
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: what you said.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Yes, I squealed in delight. I'm like, oh my god,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: it's not Nicholas and Matthew, it's matt Nick their bad.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: It wasn't was it a squeal? Was it was? I
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: mentioned this earlier kind of fun we saw mina Sirkaala
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: get flowers delivered to her. Who do you think delivered
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: those flowers to Mina sir kalaa herself? No, there was
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: no card. There was no card. There was no card.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Nobody has an idea of who's Some people have said
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: that it was Orange Cassidy. Oh yeah. Somebody put also
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: say damn you, Tony Shavani. Yeah, I think I did
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: see that. Orange takes too much effort, you know what
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: I think it was.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: And he's doing it. That's a good one because he
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: because he's in.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: That cauld be, you know, regardless, regardless, I mean totally,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: and I have to say something. I took up Mina
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: sir Kaala posted pictures of her holding the flowers, which
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: I then took. I downloaded the picture and I posted
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: it on the aw fan hub subreddit, and aw fan
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: hub subreddit did not reove the picture. Nothing to do
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: with the aw fan hub subreddit, but Reddit, as I
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: think I mentioned a few weeks ago, has this thing
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: where you could post a picture of Mina sir Kala's
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: eyeballs and they find it too sexual, so you know,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: in the market NSF and they did they remove it.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: I actually got to post a picture of Mita shir
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: Kaala that wasn't removed b Reddit. So yay me, She's impossible. Yeah,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: so does anybody else have have does anybody else have
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: a CAFA?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: I do?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: I actually thought of something?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: You thought of something? Go ahead?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: So one of my favorite wrestlers of all time is
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: Raven Love Raven. Raven is great. I actually received for
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: Christmas from my husband, who always gives me the best presence,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: a copy of Raven's documentary that just came out fairly recently.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: This is on video or yeah, so it's on DVD.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: It's called Never More.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: Watch.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: Please watch this if you can't, it's so good. You
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: will laugh, you will cry, you will look at your
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: favorite wrestlers from the era and a whole different light.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: Have you seen his interview with Scott Van Fleet? I
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: have not, I should if he did one. That's pretty good.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 6: He talks about how I came up with the idea
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 6: of Raven and some other stuff.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he gets into that a little bit in the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: documentary as well, Like he talks about like some it
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: was the most famous storylines, what what ECW was really like?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: To which case that does not just spoil I'll say
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: I both really want and do not really want to
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: be part of it. In retrospect, it looked like a
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: whole lot of fun but terrible for you.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: Well this, yeah, hello, I know Chrissy had something to
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: say and then you stopped.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: Oh no, no, I was just saying I've heard kind
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: of the same thing, like other ECW people mentioned, like
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: what it was back backstage, and it's like, yeah, it's
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: one of those deals. It's like, man, that sounds fun.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: It also sounds like there's about a seventy five percent
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: chance of death.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a one hundred chance you'll have a good time,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: but also also like an eighty five percent chance you'll die. Yeah,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: it's that sort of experience from the looks of it.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: But yeah, highly recommend the documentary.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: So you're a part of Raven's flock, put it that way.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: Indeed, I am. Okay, I'm a huge fan of his
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: for a very long time. I still believe that a
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: Raven versus Tommy Dreamer is one of the best wrestling
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: feuds of all time.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a good one, to be honest with you.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: I actually liked Raven's work in WCW as well, very moody,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: very brooding.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: I prefer him more NWCW with his flock and the
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 6: way he just leaned against the ropes and do his thing.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: That's the best Raven for me.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: All right, does anybody else have a potpourri or it's
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: a kaffaby? It's all right. Then we'll call this a night.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Thank you for listening, Thank you for watching. If you're
• 1:06:49
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• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: back on Tuesday night at eight forty five Eastern time.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Don't forget tomorrow night. AW Dynamite, Maximum Carnage. It's my
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: daughter is going to that. It's actually a double taping,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: so she gets a dynamite and a collision all in
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: one night. So it's gonna be fun. I think it's
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: gonna be fun. I'm interested to see what happens, uh
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: and we will talk about it, I'm sure. Because there's
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: probably gonna be a lot of stories being built over
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: the next few weeks because we're Aw's headed Sydney soon
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: and then of course revolution in March, so the stories
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: are got to be built. That just remains to be seen.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Who's going to challenge Chris Statlander. You know who's gonna
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: challenge Willow Nightingale both for the TBS and the UH
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: and the Women's Tag Team Championships. You've got everything is
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: up in the air. Who's challenging Mark Briscoe for the
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: T and T Championship, Who's going after the World Championship.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing really up. I mean, we've got
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: Bandido versus MJF tomorrow night, but I don't think anybody
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: really expects Bandido to win the championship tomorrow night. But
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: maybe they'll build a story toward future battles between these two.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Everything is up in the air in aw right now,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: they've got to start wrapping it up, you know, as
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: far as wrapping up storylines to make these pay per
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: view guys, you know strong. So anyway, we will see
• 1:08:35
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• 1:08:44
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• 1:08:47
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• 1:08:54
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• 1:08:56
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  Speaker 2: forty eight w fan Hum Podcast Team. This is Kelson.
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