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Passionate Hate Watching · Pop Culture Junkie®

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  [Music]
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  Hello, lovely listeners. Thank you for tuning in to another episode of Pop Culture
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  Junkie Podcast. My name is Shauna and I am joined by my fellow Junkie whose name is...
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  Olivia. Hi! How are you? I'm great. How are you? I'm okay. I'm gonna pretend like I didn't
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  just see you a couple hours ago. Oh my god. How are you? I am doing well. I am back in Arizona
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  and I'm very sweaty. It is very sweaty. You and I are both just mentally exhausted right now
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  so much. Everything's great. It's great. What do you mean? I do. I do. I do. I do. I do.
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  Well at least we have pop culture. If all those fails in this world and it all goes to shit.
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  We have shown it ultimately. And Olivia came to my pool party recently and it was summer
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  wean themed so it was like I put up all my Halloween decorations. With the time.
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  I interpreted as where a costume. No one else did. You, you L Woods do me. You said it was a costume
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  party and then it wasn't a costume party. In the Facebook event description which I know
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  you didn't look at. It says to wear spooky swimwear. Okay. Okay. No. You L Woods do me 100%. I showed
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  up dressed as beer because I have like a beer hat and then a yellow swimsuit and then I looked
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  stupid because I've done a lot of black and orange swimsuits and I was like well fine. I'm
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  just going to swim around the pool with my beer hat on and I love to do what I do. Because I like you
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  and I like beer. So when you put those together and I like hats. I kept in like it's ironic because I
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  can't drink beer. That is true. But I can be it. I can be beer. I can be beer but I can't have it
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  inside me. Anyway. What have you been watching reading, listening to, obsessed with recently? Oh,
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  did you have a yacht? So I'm in my documentary kick lately and I have two that I would recommend.
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  Okay. The first one is I think it's called the Black Widower and it's about this guy who's had six wives.
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  Donald Trump. Maybe it's about him. He's had six wives who have all died and he's collected life insurance
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  policies on all of them. It's about the cases that he got charged with and the peels and all that stuff.
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  So that was pretty interesting. Well, I saw it on HBO. Okay. So probably Matt. Yeah, I also think it's
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  on Discovery Plus. So if you have that, you can listen to it. I can't keep up with all the fucking platforms
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  that we have. Like I think my have Discovery Plus. I don't know. I'll drive. Max owns it. So if you're Max,
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  you've Discovery Plus now. But oh, really? Well, then I do have Discovery Plus. Yeah, there you go.
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  So yeah, you can or if you, you know, have cable. You can always hate that thing. So you can always watch that.
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  No, the second one is dirty pop the boy band scam. And it's a documentary about Lou Proman. I was just
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  like, say, it's either L.A. Reid or Lou Pearlman. Right? Okay. Good. Good. So because my first question was
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  going to be was do you know who Lou Proman is? Oh, 100%. And so Lou Proman is most widely known for
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  having the longest running Ponzi scheme in American history. Really? The longest running Jesus.
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  I thought I was going to get that title. Yeah. You're in comment for your Lou. As well as creating
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  the back straight boys and in sync. Yeah. And then also a little known band known as Drain.
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  Which really spheres was supposed to be a part of. But she thankfully left. I had that city. It went so low.
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  But it was, it's I think it's three parts. It's really, really good. Now my gripe with it, my gripe
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  with most of these Lou Proman documentaries is they do not go into the abuse that was happening.
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  Yeah. Enough. They don't really, they kind of are like, okay, well, we can prove the financial
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  abuse and prove that he's a bad guy. But no one really wants to like touch the other side of it.
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  Yeah. And so that's really kind of missing of how he abused these people, people from L.A.V.O.
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  have publicly came out and said it and stuff like that. So I feel like it's like allegations or whatever.
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  Yeah. Yeah. Because he can't prove it. And so, but I was my gripe with it. I was really hoping that
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  after an open secret like they would, you know, kind of show that part had been happening in the
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  music industry as well, even to children. But it kind of swept under the rug. So that was my biggest
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  thing that I didn't like after that. Yeah. That kind of sucks. I mean, it feels like it's a lot of
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  these documentaries too. Where it's kind of like the elephant in the room where you're like,
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  okay, you're going to talk about the like sexual abuse. Is this going to come up? And they're
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  always like kind of skirt by it. But yeah. And in BoybandCon, Lance Bass produced it. And they brought
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  Aaron Carter on when he was kind of in the midst of his drug addiction, like hoping he would kind
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  of say it. And then he like, said he would. And then he did a 180. And was like, oh, I don't know
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  bad things to say about Lou at all. What are you talking about? Yeah. And it just became the so
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  trauma for a dirty, yeah, like switch up on Aaron Carter from NSYNC. Yeah. While interesting.
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  Maybe I'll give that a whirl. Is that on Max too? No, it's on Netflix. That one I do have.
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  Which one nonetheless, I'm sure you can find it somewhere too. I've actually. Let's see, I've
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  been watching all of my usual stuff. So how's the dragon? At this point, we only have one
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  episode left. As of this recording, I know. It goes by so fast. And I guess the biggest thing I watched
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  this week was Deadpool and Wolverine finally came out. I was so excited going into this movie. I
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  literally was sitting in the movie there like giddy like a schoolgirl. And it was incredible. I
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  fucking loved this movie. Spoiler free review. Yes, I won't do any spoilers because there are a ton of
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  cameos in this movie that I literally screamed out loud for just the minute somebody would pop up. I'd be like,
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  just smiling the entire time. It's so good. And it's raunchy, but it has heart to it. And it has a good
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  story. I mean, Hugh Jackman is so ridiculously ripped. It's insane. How old is this man?
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  55 years old. And he, my goodness. I guess Tidy Spoiler. He's shirtless in one of the scenes.
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  And it's good. But yeah, very, very good movie. Laugh out loud, funny. I think it'll fit well into
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  the MCU. The MCU's first R-rated movie. I mean, Logan was R-rated, but that wasn't in the MCU. Even though
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  they do, you know, allude to it in this movie because that was the last time we saw Hugh Jackman
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  as Wolverine. So yeah, yeah, gonna absolutely pop Deadpool and Wolverine. Yeah, I'll see you as well.
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  Yeah, I'll go eat again. I'll go with you to see it. It was so good. Yeah, and I was so
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  forcing. Yes, twist my arm. I guess. It's actually a 17-show-ing later. You want to go? Let's
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  drop the shit up so we could go see Deadpool. Who could use some giggles? Let's go do it. Another thing
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  that, gosh, if Nicole was here, I feel like she would be like, really? Then I started watching
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  that will kind of go into our topic for this week. So my friends, Marissa and Jessica,
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  talked to me over the weekend about this show that they're both been doing. It comes out every
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  single day and it's called Love Island and it is on Peacock and I didn't even have Peacock. Like,
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  I had to use Jessica's log in for this. Thanks, girl. And I usually don't like trashy dating
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  reality shows. I watched Rock of Love and Flavor of Love on BH1 back in the day just because they were so
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  fucking absurd and disgusting, but I don't like the Bachelor. I don't like any of that shit. And I am
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  hooked on this show. You could almost say I'm hate watching it because it's one good thing.
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  One good thing. I'm hate watching this show because I feel stupid at the end of every episode. I'm
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  like, what am I doing to myself? This is not contributing to my personal or financial growth or
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  emotional growth and the slightest. But the concept of the show is like, these really fucking hot people,
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  just like dummy attractive men and women or all put in an island in Fiji and they all have to
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  couple up with each other. It's very heteronormative and you have to like choose a person and sleep with
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  them and then you're in a couple. Not like sleep with them sexually, but like you have to sleep in a bed
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  with them. Well, it's like implied, yeah. Yeah. And then you get to know them and date them, but then
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  like every one a couple episodes a new bum shell will enter the villa and like the producers will
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  just drop in the hottest person you've ever seen in your entire life and then everybody just fights
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  over them. And then like couples will break up and everyone's crying and I thought we were in love,
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  it's been a week. It's insane. But in Fiji, a week in Fiji feels pretty magical. I literally,
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  especially when everybody has rock hard abs and breast implants. Yeah. I'm a Vanderpump rolls person.
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  So I love Ariana and I love that she has made the US version of Love Island like so popular because
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  it's always really struggled here. Like people would always say don't watch the American one,
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  watch the UK one. Yeah, but I love that she is just winning and oh my god, she looks amazing and
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  like every outfit I see of her. She's gorgeous. Yeah. I don't watch Vanderpump rules and I only know about
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  scandival because of you. Yep. It's so I wouldn't have known that that's who this woman was until my
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  friends told me all I knew is just this ridiculously good looking woman. It's hosting the show. And
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  everybody's in the tiniest outfits possible, but they're all looking like a little outdated. It's all
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  giving like 2008 Charlotte Ruse we're going to the club like it feels like you're watching
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  Tiva Ticula a Sean I love. Yes. That is what all of their outfits look like. It looks like what I would
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  have worn if I was like I really want to look good and I'm 23, which is I guess everybody on this show.
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  So we're going to take a quick break, but we're going to dive into more of this concept of
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  hate watching right after the break.
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  So the concept of hate watching is something I mean there's hate listening, hate reading. I think
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  hate reading would take a lot more time out of your schedule though. Something that you know is bad
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  or something that is universally kind of known to be low quality, but you watch it anyway or you
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  listen to it anyway. JoJo C. Wallace music videos. I've been like. All JoJo C. Why anything. Oh my god,
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  I have to watch her new music video in Mexico. We were like we have to put this on because we know
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  it's going to be so bad that we have to watch it. We have to witness it. So I wanted to talk about
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  hate watching. We'll just call it that even though there's you know hate listening to music too.
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  And why people do it and if you hate watch anything, I got the idea for this episode because there's a
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  documentary about Nickelback. It's something along the lines of the band that you love to hate or hate
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  to love. Yeah. So Nickelback is kind of widely regarded as one of the most hated bands of all time.
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  For better or worse and same along with like creed these kind of dad rock bands, but lately they've
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  been getting kind of a resurgence I've noticed through memes and commercials like Nickelback had a
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  famous commercial a couple years back where they kind of poke fun of themselves. Same with the
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  documentary. They're kind of like they realize people hate them and dog on them a lot. And is Nickelback
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  really that bad even? I mean I don't like their music, but if they come on in a bar,
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  then I'm gonna fucking sing Nickelback because everybody knows the words and we're all gonna sing it.
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  You know what I mean? Same with creed like you and I sing creed at karaoke because it's hilarious
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  and we know the words. I do not put creed and Nickelback in the same category. But I really do
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  just like Nickelback, but I also think that it's kind of like an overexposure thing. Yeah.
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  Where Nickelback was always so commercially safe. Yeah. But like they felt like they could really do that.
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  Yeah, I say that. And so I think a lot of it comes into overexposure unfortunately that whenever
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  you know you're around too much or people feel like they have too much access to you like
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  there's this weird like tipping point like Zendaya for example everyone's like oh my god I love her
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  but it's because you don't like have enough access to her. I see that. But then you would like look
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  at like a Taylor Swift who you have so much access and people like love to hate her. Yeah.
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  And it's like one of those things. So I think a lot of it has to do with exposure. Yeah that's a really
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  good point. I see that with like the backlash that Jennifer Lawrence and Anne Hathaway got a couple
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  years ago when these are both too beautiful, funny, talented actresses but all the sudden it was kind
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  of cool to hate them. And I think they've kind of gotten over that now because they both kind of
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  went out of the limelight for a couple years. Yeah. But it just sucks like and we see a lot with women.
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  I mean I know we talked about male bands but like when it comes to actresses I think it's a lot of
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  women. We love you. Okay. When I was sick of you. Go and like Taylor Swift. Go away a little bit. Yeah.
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  And I think like the Kardashians, the fact that they're still so famous but I think I've only met
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  one person in my life who is legitimately like no I love the Kardashians. I love watching that stuff.
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  Everyone else is like no fuck that. Like then why are they so famous if we all collectively dislike them?
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  So I think that like early season of keeping up with the Kardashians were like a perfect
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  hate watch for me at the time where like it was still like a semi good reality TV show like what
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  it was on e and these people are crazy and it's a giant family so there's just like so many dynamics
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  and I think like those ones were good but to be honest and put my tinfoil hat on I don't think anyone
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  is actually watching the hulu show at all. I don't know a single person who's watching that.
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  Yeah I don't think anyone actually is but I think who is like lying and making it like number one
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  or number two so people actually think that them doing the show was a good idea. I agree that's
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  interesting and because the Kardashians are such a just a brand in themselves they're going to
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  bring you money. I don't know they're going to talk about hulu on their social media channels with
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  a billion fucking followers it's all money it's all follow the money. I like to brag because I
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  not like other girls. I've never seen an episode of keeping up the Kardashians. I guess it could be
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  very entertaining. I just I've never seen it. I don't know. The first season is so interesting.
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  That might actually be an interesting episode to do. Oh my god. It's to go back and watch like the
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  first episode of the first season. Shauna and Olivia watch keeping up with the Kardashians. Yeah there's
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  nobody nobody has those same faces. Not a single one of them. And not a single one of them. Rob maybe
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  but it's a little more round now. That was an ice-waited for that. That was yes. Yes. It was trying to be
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  sensitive there. That was very good. But Rob Kardashian actually used to be really that cute
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  and he was dating Adrian Balan. Oh that's right. A cheetah girl. Cheetah, cheetah,
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  sister. And then three LW I always want to call them three little women. I think that's what
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  three LW stands for. It is. But you're calling them like their full government name three little women.
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  Miss three little women come over here. I love that new song by those three little women.
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  That's crazy. Okay so we're gonna do that. We're gonna watch the Kardashians. At least the first
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  episode. I can't commit to more than that. Oh my god. I don't know. Okay. Yes. Yes. Yes. I love that.
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  So I have a few reasons why people might hate watch something. So why spend your time consuming media
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  that you dislike entertainment value. Sometimes the content itself is just so outrageous or cringe-worthy
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  or just poorly done that it's just funny. It reminds me of like just cringe videos that you see
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  on like TikTok or Instagram or something. It's just like super socially awkward people and you just
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  watch them because it makes you feel yucky inside you love it. Social interaction. So there's
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  communities. Your friends are watching it. You want to talk to your friends about it. I mean I guess
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  that's kind of me with love Island. I wouldn't say that I hate this show. It just makes me feel stupid.
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  Yeah. I feel that way sometimes about like the bachelor or the bachelor at like everyone's watching
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  it and everyone's talking about it. So I guess I'll go to that like watch party. Yeah. And like because
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  I want the Shakudari and I want the wine and the gossip because that that show is literally
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  just like half ads and it's two hours. So like it's kind of like a book club so people like create
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  that community around it. That is the one thing that I wish that like I could get into the bachelor
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  because like my sister-in-law and my mother-in-law love it. Yeah and they have like a little group chat
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  and then all these girls I see are like bachelor at viewing party and they love their like Rose and
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  cheese and I'm like I want to be eating Rose and cheese and my PJs but I don't want to have to watch
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  this terrible television show. We can do it for a book club but you have to demonstrate that you
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  can read fast enough. I read fourth wing and like a week. You did but that was like one. So I think if
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  you can prove you can read three books fast we'll let you join. To be fair I might have a lot of
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  spare time coming up so this is very true. Oh I should have given you a book when you were here.
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  And I am in a depressive episode so I need a good book. Not to brag but I am gonna spend all day
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  and all night in bed and not to brag but shit is going really poorly for me. I meant to say.
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  We need a good bug. We need a good cleanse thing honestly. Literally. Okay number three yeah I mean
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  this is kind of the same thing. Cultural phenomenon is just shows are personalities gain attention
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  for being controversial or polarizing and you just have to see what happens next. Number four
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  emotional release. Watching something you dislike can help you release your frustration with the
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  world. I could never do that. Like I even skip the debates because I don't want to see who shall not
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  be named speak. I just it makes me so anxious I can't deal with his. I can't deal with his toys.
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  Yeah sometimes like I feel I agree but it depends like so I would put Vanderpump rules
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  in that category for me because it like that with scandival for example like it was like
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  so triggering to me in a way that I feel like it helps me to like work through maybe some like
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  unhealed trauma for someone like cheating on me in the past where I'm like what oh like if you know
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  I think a lot of those things like what you don't like is often like a mirror not saying that like
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  Donald Trump is a mirror. I'm not but I feel like if somebody is beautiful as Ariana that's
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  her name right yeah yeah somebody is fucking beautiful as Ariana could get cheated on then you're like
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  oh now I understand why he did this to me okay yeah so sometimes I like those or like you would
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  just like have something that you can like put your anger into like at a character or whatever
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  I was speaking of today so I have been having a rough week you guys and in the middle of the day
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  all of a sudden this fire alarm goes off and I know that it's it it's not a fire I just want to share
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  snapchat about this I love it I love it I know that it's not a fire and I know that they did not have
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  a planned fire alarm test today so I just went out on my balcony because this is not the first time
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  it just happened and I was just like having such a bad day and it took like five minutes to get
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  the thing turned off and I was literally about to go downstairs and scream at these people because
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  I was so upset I was like how could you do this like I have a job to do and then I was like first
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  of all I'm not gonna take out my bad day on someone else so I just don't go down there and yell at them
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  but sometimes shows can have that feeling without ever yelling at that person and so sometimes I
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  like shows like that I can totally understand that and I try really hard not to let my bad days come
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  out on other people I remember one time I did it to a student loan representative on the phone
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  and then I hung up and since then I was like that wasn't her fault why did I scream at her
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  that's not her fault yeah I used to work in customers support I still kind of do and so every time
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  I talk just a customer support person I'm like God that's you don't be mean to that anyone that's
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  you exactly into this day I'm always like okay I know this isn't you Susan like okay I'm just gonna
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  that's like an ever corporate training you ever go to it's like just know if someone's mean to you
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  it really isn't about you at all and and it came very true but I think hey watching really is
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  that or like just like such a disdain for something which goes into the next reason a lot of people
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  hate watch would be contrarianism so so many people like it it's going against the grain like
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  well I'm too cool through that you know yeah everyone else loves Game of Thrones I guess I'll watch it
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  but I'm not gonna like it yeah yeah exactly so I think a lot of children are guilty of that
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  because they want to be different or things like that but then like they're watching from the side
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  minds but I did that for a really long time with housewives as well I still have a love to hate kind of
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  relationship with housewives just guess it is kind of mind numbing I mean that's all of your
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  reality shows is like it's mind numbing but sometimes you need that you need those shows where you don't
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  have to like I don't know I can put it on in the background while I scroll on my phone and if like
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  I'm not gonna miss a gone and a gone and a gone and yeah yeah like I need something a little dumb to
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  put on sometimes it's a big phone little phone show for sure but on that kind of know I have a theory
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  that no reality TV should go on past a third season because then people know the formula too much
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  and it makes it less authentic and real like the first season the reasons of the bachelor great the
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  first three seasons of love Island probably like amazing you know oh my god the first three seasons
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  of like America's next top model too oh my god so good so good you know and that's one of the
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  lot of shows a show that I used to really like but then by the end I found myself hate watching it
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  was the flash yeah and it's because it went on for so many seasons that those first three seasons
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  that show I'll say were amazing like we my husband and I loved all that and this goes with a lot of
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  those like CW superhero shows we really liked the first couple seasons of Arrow and Supergirl and then
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  eventually used to kind of fall off and stop watching them or eventually we would find ourselves
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  watching them but the whole time being like this is so fucking bad this is so dumb oh my god this is
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  so dumb or we'd be like there's another hallway chat oh berries and his feelings again or like
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  oh Oliver can't tell us secret again and then we're like if we're really just watching this just so
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  we can dog on it every week like maybe we should find other shows to watch because at this point
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  we're just hate watching this let's just make our brains a little bit happier you know what's in that
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  we do enjoy especially because you see that quality go downhill like the first season of Riverdale
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  I love I love the first season of Riverdale and then after that it got so dumb Riverdale's
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  known as probably the most universal hate watch show yeah yeah and and just like that we're like
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  the top two like they were like switching back and forth and every article I looked at like what
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  were the top 10 hate watching shows I love it just like that I will admit season one I hate watched
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  it season two I unabashedly enjoyed it yeah yeah you won't accept that I enjoyed it but I enjoyed
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  I won't change your mind the next one is so curiosity yeah okay curiosity about why others like
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  or dislike something can drive people to watch content they wouldn't normally enjoy then I want
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  to understand different perspectives or motivation and then critical analysis for critics or for those
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  in media analysis like S where in media analysis we know just how to podcast obviously it can
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  provide material for where we're so intelligent can provide material for dissecting storytelling
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  techniques flaws plot holes cultural impacts curiosity I think of with you with your 600 pound
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  life oh my god I love that show so much I am so sorry if that's problematic I love that show unabashedly
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  and maybe I do kind of hate watch it because when I watch it the whole time I watch the crap out
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  of that show I feel so like bad for these people but then I'm like am I watching this to feel better
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  about myself maybe I like that's bad it's version of hate watching that's what I mean
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  like definitely curiosity it's so psychological like I think it's it's a really interesting
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  I've never thought about that with that show because that's absolutely I don't put it on because I'm like
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  oh I can't wait to see what happens next I put it on because I'm like well it says in the description
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  that Robert here is 750 pounds and is inside of his bed for life so yeah in like hoarders yeah kind
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  of stuff and my strange addiction I do love those all of those honestly anything on the TLC
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  network also my mom my mom watches the or you showed she doesn't anymore the duggers and I would hate
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  watch the crap out of that show and it was just so fun the duggers for sure yeah yeah there's just
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  so many kids Johnny Kate plus eight like they're something about like you know it's bad but like
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  you just cannot look away yeah and I think the duggers is good to watch if you have a history of
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  religious trauma yeah watch it you're just like oh my god maybe or maybe not am I trigger you
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  I guess it depends on how far removed you are from your religious trauma is it gonna make
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  make you spiral or is it gonna make you cathartically scream at the television and thank god
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  that you got it like the higher being another one that you guys have already heard me talk about
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  extensively throughout this podcast that I absolutely hate watched was the idol oh my god you
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  watched that whole season didn't you yeah I wish the whole thing like god bless you I couldn't do it
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  yeah I heard a song that they make for it and I'm like that song is good like it's about makes good
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  songs but that he does not make good TV he's not a good actor he needs to stick with what he knows
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  the other honorary mentions which I think this I always think of this show was kind of like
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  coining this term Emily and Paris oh see I I didn't watch that but I heard enough about it to
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  understand that like it's about a rich privileged white woman who goes to Paris and that's about it
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  stuff oh my god that was the show we were trying to remember the other day that you hadn't watched
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  that I was astonished you hadn't watched I couldn't like I don't know I just it looked too cringy and
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  weird from the the previews that's why it's a hate watch page and that's why it's on this episode yeah
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  that's why it's a hate watch oh we gotta do it you have to watch it it's kind of like Bridger 10 where
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  you it's not gonna be good but it's so good I love but that's what I mean but it's you know what I mean
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  like it's good but like it's it's not it's good but it's gonna be a little dumb it's not like a ground
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  rig like it's not like a game of thrones level I got you I got you so but yeah that's a good run I
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  love that maybe before the next season comes out we'll watch it because it is so entertaining she's
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  like a marketing hire in Chicago and is all every single day I ducked out in four thousand dollar Chanel
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  outputs and like none of it is realistic it's giving Carrie Bradshaw yeah it's yeah it is very
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  give like based on that like kind of like thing where you know money doesn't exist in this in this
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  life here but a nice way to live I wish I wish problems would be about like farther and fewer between
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  oh my god this is amazing this is giving me like I need to go watch some trashy television
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  Andrew's out for the night so I do think I'm just gonna sit in my couch and binge alive
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  whenever I'm really sad and I would recommend this to anyone is watch the first season of the Osborne
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  it's on YouTube it is so funny oh my god and that's what I'm not even hate watching that's just good
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  TV it is so friggin funny and they I think they stop it at the third season like there should never
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  be anything over three seasons they stopped in time I remember Kelly Osborne was dating uh
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  Bert McCracken from the used and I had the biggest crush on him yeah and just you can't understand
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  a thing Aussie is saying and everything is just the f-word there's just miniature poodles and like
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  parmarinians running everywhere it's insane I love it after the day of my answering oral I had a guy
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  come bring me in and out and he put on the whole season of the Osborne's and we just get gold
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  so hard all night and I was like I should I should marry them and just put out one to do it
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  which man this is because uh yeah I'm sorry but literally I was like I'm sad will you bring me in
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  and now and come watch the Osborne's with me oh my god when I was sick in college my ex would come
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  over and watch like the OC with me which was also trash television and before he became a monster
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