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98. Anne Bonny and Mary Read - Here Be Pirates · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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Speaker 1: You're listening to an airwave media podcast. Hello delicious friends,
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Speaker 1: and welcome to Hooded What Now the history podcast that's
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Speaker 1: not your history class with me your host Katie Charlewood,
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Speaker 1: history Harlotte and reader of books. Now, I'm sure you
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Speaker 1: can hear in my voice that it's still not back
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Speaker 1: to normal. So it is ready to be a little
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Speaker 1: bit gentler with this week's episode because the next one,
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Speaker 1: oh fuck me, the next one is not going to
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Speaker 1: be fun. It's going to be rage inducing because it's
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Speaker 1: it's Irish Heritage Month and it is Women's History Month,
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Speaker 1: and as such I have elected to discuss some horrific
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Speaker 1: fucking history about women in Ireland by women again someone.
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Speaker 1: It's not going to be a fun time for anyone,
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Speaker 1: but I'm going to do it because I promised I
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Speaker 1: would and so that's happening. But yeah, I'm still a
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Speaker 1: little bit raspy. My voice hasn't really come back. But
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Speaker 1: on the plus side, I did win an escape room,
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Speaker 1: so I'm having a good time. Yeah, I had a
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Speaker 1: fun weekend. I say a fun weekend. I had a
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Speaker 1: family emergency. So if anybody was looking to listen to
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Speaker 1: me or see me, even on the Nerdy Up North podcast.
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Speaker 1: Stuff happened, could get on and it was a whole situation.
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Speaker 1: But everything's fine, everything's good. Let's not worry. But yes,
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Speaker 1: so that was supposed to happen. And then on the Sunday,
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Speaker 1: I had to fly to Dublin and I almost didn't
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Speaker 1: make my plane. So I'm literally at the airport. The
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Speaker 1: woman at the checkout desk, check out desk, no, the
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Speaker 1: check in desk is phoning the captain asking his permission
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Speaker 1: to let me on the plane. And she's like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's allowing you on because you can't do an online
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Speaker 1: check in and this airport, you have to go in
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Speaker 1: and physically do it. So I'm there, like taking off
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Speaker 1: my boots and she goes, no, jif first rodeo is it?
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Speaker 1: And I'm like no, and so why run from the
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Speaker 1: checkout desk all the way down to security, throw my
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Speaker 1: stuff in the in the tree, run through, do the
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Speaker 1: weird stance that you do. And Dick said, you know,
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Speaker 1: just like get my stuff back on, and I leg
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Speaker 1: it out the door, leg it onto the runway and
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Speaker 1: then run up the steps and and the air stewards
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Speaker 1: were like, yeah, we watched you because you can see
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Speaker 1: the windows like all along the airport, like we watched
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Speaker 1: you run through in your socks, like zoom. I got
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Speaker 1: on the fucking plane because I had a date last
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Speaker 1: night in Dublin. I went to Pink restaurant. Was so
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Speaker 1: it was so good, like it was such a lovely time,
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Speaker 1: and then we did an escape room and we won
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Speaker 1: and it was a good It was a good time.
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Speaker 1: Remember how I said before, if he wanted to he would.
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Speaker 1: Let me tell you this man, he's just early. He
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Speaker 1: comes to pick me up. He books a day off
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Speaker 1: work so we can actually have this date because this
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Speaker 1: was the only day I was going to be free,
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Speaker 1: like for a good chunk of time. And so he
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Speaker 1: was like, booked it off, done, and he was like,
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Speaker 1: You've always wanted to go to that restaurant, so let's
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Speaker 1: go to Pink And I was like, oh, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: do want to do that. And then he booked an
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Speaker 1: escape room for afterwards and yeah, yep, if you wanted to,
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Speaker 1: heat would okay, and just ah, it is such a
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Speaker 1: good time. Probably one of the better dates I've had
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Speaker 1: in the last I've got two years. Yeah, yeah, definitely
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Speaker 1: one of the better ones. Speaking of dates, the dates
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Speaker 1: for my shows have been released at this point they
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Speaker 1: should most of them should be up. So December, when
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Speaker 1: am I talking about December? No, April, fucking April. April
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Speaker 1: twenty fifth, I'm in for Dame Lane in Dublin with
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Speaker 1: the Shit Talk History Boys. The twenty sixth, I'm in Brighton, Yes, Friday,
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Speaker 1: I'm in six of April, I'm in Brighton with me
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Speaker 1: just me at the Caroline of Brunswick. On the twenty
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Speaker 1: seventh that I'm in Manchester at the Creatures of the
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Speaker 1: Night Comedy club, and then on the Sunday I am
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Speaker 1: in Glasgow. So the Glassgow tickets there, they're not many
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Speaker 1: left of those lads there. They're going, They're going quite sharpish,
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Speaker 1: so there's not a few of them left. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: by the time this episode is out, I think all
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Speaker 1: of those should be released. All those tickets should be out.
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Speaker 1: So if you want to come see me, my Newcastle
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Speaker 1: gig is like it's going to be in November. So
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Speaker 1: those have gone up and I've got a few early
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Speaker 1: bird tickets out for some of them. I think I've
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Speaker 1: got like a pay what you want ticket do I
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Speaker 1: haven't unwaged. I'm not sure I had a selection because
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Speaker 1: I was trying to be a little bit more ethical
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Speaker 1: about the options when it comes to people being able
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Speaker 1: to see the show, you know, come to see me
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Speaker 1: talk about history. I'm sorry, I'm a little bit wheezy.
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Speaker 1: I'm still a little bit not great. But yeah, and
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Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking, you're thinking, what your gibber
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Speaker 1: jabber in fact me, in fact you, I will. But
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Speaker 1: first we've got to get our source on. Our sources
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Speaker 1: are The Pirate's Breasts, Criminal Women and the Meanings of
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Speaker 1: the Body by Sally O'Driscoll and Bonnie Pirate dot Com.
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Speaker 1: A General History of Pirates by Charles Johnson, Anne Bonnie
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Speaker 1: and Mary Reid, Female Pirates and Maritime Women by David Victim,
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Speaker 1: The True and False Stories of Anne Bonne, Pirate Women
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Speaker 1: of the Caribbean by Tony Bartlem, The Republic of Pirates
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Speaker 1: by Colin Woodard, She Captains Heroines and Hellians of the
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Speaker 1: Sea by Joan Drewitt. And of course we have everyone's
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Speaker 1: favorites biography dot com and astray dot Com. I use
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Speaker 1: it in comfortably good. Then let's begin. If you have
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Speaker 1: been listening or watching me for any length of time,
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Speaker 1: If you have been watching me with the fuck if
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Speaker 1: you have been watching me for any length of time,
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Speaker 1: then you'll know it's creepy. It's like I've been outside
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Speaker 1: the window of binoculars. No, if you listening for any
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Speaker 1: length of time, you'll know that I bloody love pirates.
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Speaker 1: I do, and I realize it's a very romanticized idea
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Speaker 1: that I have. And you know my concept and perception
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Speaker 1: of piracy. The golden age of piracy even is very
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Speaker 1: much born from novels and movies like the swashbuckling Aerofline.
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Speaker 1: If you don't know who Aeroflinn is, he was an
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Speaker 1: absolute bastard of a human, but a pretty decent actor.
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Speaker 1: And in fairness, I think you can separate the art
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Speaker 1: from the artist as long as that artist is dead
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Speaker 1: and can no longer profit from it. But that's just
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Speaker 1: my opinion. Yeah, so I love the swashbuckling stuff, and
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Speaker 1: I'm really gonna blame specifically a Mubbout Treasure Island and
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Speaker 1: Tim Curry. It is their fault mainly from my piracy obsession.
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Speaker 1: You wouldn't steal a policeman's helmet. That is a niche joke,
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Speaker 1: Like three people will get and they'll be like, ah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I understand you wouldn't return that helmet to his grieving widow.
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Speaker 1: Very niche joke. So yeah, I wanted to talk about
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Speaker 1: pirates and one of the few documented female pirates from
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Speaker 1: the golden age of piracy. I just I wanted to
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Speaker 1: talk about something ever so slightly lighter than what's coming up,
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Speaker 1: because it's it's this is a delight in comparison to
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Speaker 1: what we're going to be reaching, And we are going
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Speaker 1: to be talking about Anne Bonnie. She's just wasn't even pirating,
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Speaker 1: like she wasn't really being a buccaneer for that long.
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Speaker 1: But she's she's around and she's irish. I thought, let's
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Speaker 1: start with our You can really hear the shittiness of
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Speaker 1: my voice, right and now can't you. So we don't know,
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Speaker 1: as we shock you, we don't know when she was born,
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Speaker 1: being a woman from the past who was not noble.
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Speaker 1: I mean, even with the nobility, we're lucky. It's a
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Speaker 1: Dartner map, you know, but with this the very least,
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Speaker 1: we have a general ish concept of the possibility of
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Speaker 1: our existing. But she was born in the late seventeenth century,
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Speaker 1: so in about sixteen ninety eight to seventeen hundred, like
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Speaker 1: roughly about that is where we're thinking. So as far
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Speaker 1: as you know, we can guesstimate from the information provided.
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Speaker 1: And she was born in Cork in Ireland, now Cork
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Speaker 1: the county, not Cork the city. I believe that the
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Speaker 1: assumption is that she's from Kinsale, is that is what
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Speaker 1: the records have suggested, and we're just gonna go with
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Speaker 1: it now. And here she is an a fair baby
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Speaker 1: like she is the result of her dad boinking the maid. Now,
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Speaker 1: I feel like this is a power structure issue. Feels
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Speaker 1: very very creepy. You know. So her dad, William Kormack,
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Speaker 1: he is a lawyer, he's a solicitor. He's you know,
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Speaker 1: relatively you know, middle class, right, and he's doing all
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Speaker 1: right for himself. He's middle to upper class actually because
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Speaker 1: he's he's quite well off, right, he's doing all right.
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Speaker 1: And he shagged the maid, Mary Brennan, and Mary gave
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Speaker 1: birth to Anne. Now Cormick unfortunately was married. I know,
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Speaker 1: you're shocked a man in the past. What. Yeah, So
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Speaker 1: his wife becomes ill and ends up moving away too,
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Speaker 1: you know, be cared for, and well that's happening. He
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Speaker 1: starts shy in the maid. Because men have needs fuck off. Right,
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Speaker 1: So while his wife is away, you know, resting up
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Speaker 1: and trying to do whatever. You know, he doesn't have
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Speaker 1: any kids with her, They don't have any children together,
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Speaker 1: and so he starts passing Anne off as his legitimate daughter. Right,
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Speaker 1: So it starts off as that, but like, on a
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Speaker 1: scale of zero to invading Russia in the winter, how
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Speaker 1: stupid is your idea? Because your wife is ill. Everyone
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Speaker 1: in the village knows she's ill, right, they know she's
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Speaker 1: staying away, and you suddenly have a child, Like you
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Speaker 1: think people aren't going to put two and two together. Pal,
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Speaker 1: like his wife family has money, right, and he's on
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Speaker 1: an allowance from them, and he's like, okay, Whispers are
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Speaker 1: starting to go around that he's got a daughter, and
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Speaker 1: so he's thinking, I've got to get the heck at
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Speaker 1: a dodge And so him has made and and they
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Speaker 1: all head over to England and they go to London
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Speaker 1: where he tries to set up a practice and so
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Speaker 1: he's training and up to be a lawyer's clerk. But
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Speaker 1: he dresses her in boy's clothes and starts calling her
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Speaker 1: Andy like when they're out and about and around people,
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Speaker 1: because he's like, what daughter is this. This is a
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Speaker 1: boy that I am training to be a clerk? No
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Speaker 1: relation to me. What do you mean We've got the
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Speaker 1: same nose. Don't know what you're talking about. So he's
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Speaker 1: doing everything he can to like avoid letting people know,
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Speaker 1: like what's happening. But this may shock you. The wife
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Speaker 1: finds out and just cuts off his money. She's like no, no, no, no, oh.
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Speaker 1: She doesn't do it necessarily, her family does it because
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Speaker 1: you know she doesn't have that many rights being a
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Speaker 1: woman in Anglo Ireland. So yeah, not great for him,
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Speaker 1: not great for anybody really. So he's got no money
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Speaker 1: and his reputation is absolutely shocking. So he's got another choice.
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Speaker 1: He has to leave, and he has to go somewhere
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Speaker 1: where he's not going to be affected by sort of
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Speaker 1: British or Anglo Irish society. That he needs a fresh start,
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Speaker 1: and it gets one, but it's kind of rough. So him,
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Speaker 1: Mary and Anne they all set sail for South Carolina
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Speaker 1: and off they go to Charlestown. Right, I think it's
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Speaker 1: just Charleston now, but back then it was Charlestown. So
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Speaker 1: they make the voyage and you know, he's he he's
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Speaker 1: not a great lawyer. Over there. He ends up trading
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Speaker 1: more so than anything else. So he's trading and effectively
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Speaker 1: he's you know, raising and at this point to live
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Speaker 1: like a woman again, a girl, I should say, because
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Speaker 1: when she's thirteen, her mother gets typhus or cholera. She
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Speaker 1: gets one of one of the diseases, you know, and
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Speaker 1: passes away when Anne's only thirteen, and this leaves William
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Speaker 1: having to look after and raise her, but you know,
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Speaker 1: not doing the best of jobs. But he ends up
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Speaker 1: trading and working his way up, starts with his paper clup,
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Speaker 1: works up, I guess, and ends up with a plantation.
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Speaker 1: And this is where he gains respectability because he's got
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Speaker 1: a plantation, he's got land, he's got slaves obviously, right
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Speaker 1: doesn't he ourseho? But anyway, he's doing that. And as
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Speaker 1: far as you know, people in South Carolina are concerned
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Speaker 1: William Cormick and Mary Brennan her husband and wife, and
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Speaker 1: Anne is their legitimate daughter. Wasn't born out of wedlock,
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Speaker 1: wasn't in a fair baby. Why would they think that?
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Speaker 1: They have no bloody reason to think that, because you
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Speaker 1: know they've started fresh. So yeah, him ending up with
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Speaker 1: a plantation is just it's one of those fucking things.
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Speaker 1: Of course it is. And naturally, now that he's made
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Speaker 1: his way up in the world, he needs a suitable
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Speaker 1: match for his daughter, and he tries to get her
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Speaker 1: sort of well, he betrothes her to some dude and
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Speaker 1: and like this man is born. Fuck this for a
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Speaker 1: game of soldiers, and she runs off. She elopes and
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Speaker 1: marries a poor sailor named John Bonney. And so they
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Speaker 1: get married, and he is telling her tales of the
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Speaker 1: sea and exciting life they're gonna have because she's still
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Speaker 1: quite young at this point, she's kind of teenage to
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Speaker 1: early twenties. She's just full of love in life and
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Speaker 1: wants to go see the fucking world. But also she
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Speaker 1: did grow up with a less than stable upbringing. Now
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Speaker 1: there are stories of her having a fiery temper, swearing
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Speaker 1: like a sailor because of course she does. Look at
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Speaker 1: the company she keeps and she was avengeful and I'm
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Speaker 1: all here for a petty bitch, But we can't like
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Speaker 1: confirm some of the stuff she said to have done.
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Speaker 1: So apparently John Bonnie was kind of eyeing up the
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Speaker 1: fact that and was known the child and that her
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Speaker 1: dad had an estate, so he was like, oh wow,
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Speaker 1: that seems fun. But her dad, William ends up disowning
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Speaker 1: her and he's like, do not I had a good
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Speaker 1: match for you when you married this motherfucker. Like no,
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Speaker 1: And allegedly she sneaks back onto the plantation and sets
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Speaker 1: it on fire. Now, as much as I would love
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Speaker 1: to believe she did this, I don't think she did.
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Speaker 1: There's not any evidence in sending an entire plantation on
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Speaker 1: fire kind of big news. Somebody would have said something.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, she eloped, she ran away, and Herror and
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Speaker 1: John Bonny end up in Nassau, which I remember from
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Speaker 1: the Black Flag games. Listen Assassin's Creed, Black Flag Top
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Speaker 1: Tier games. Even though some of the stuff they've got
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Speaker 1: in it is very incorrect, but some of it's really fun.
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Speaker 1: So Nasau was known as the Republic of Pirates, you know.
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Speaker 1: It was sort of like a sanctuary, a safe haven
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Speaker 1: for you know, buccaneers, privateers and other such rogues to
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Speaker 1: be able to live in relative freedom. Right. But the
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Speaker 1: governor was of Port Royal. Nope, that's the parts of
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Speaker 1: the Caribbean movie. No, no, no, he is the governor
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Speaker 1: of the Bahamas. So yes, woods rogers, he is the
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Speaker 1: governor of the Bahamas, and he hires John Bonnie to
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Speaker 1: basically bounty hunt pirates, like that was his gig, and
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Speaker 1: so he was supposed to go round collect pirates and
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Speaker 1: bring them back to the governor. And for the next
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Speaker 1: two years he is an absolute rap. John Bonnie is
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Speaker 1: out here selling out pirates and buccaneers and the whole shebang.
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Speaker 1: He gets so many arrested, he leads, you know, the
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Speaker 1: governor to him, and this really starts bothering. And so
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Speaker 1: they've been married for what two years, three years at
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Speaker 1: this point, not long because like she's still kind of
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Speaker 1: a teenager, late teens at this point, and she is
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Speaker 1: expecting a better life, which she's not getting. And while
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Speaker 1: she's in Nassau, she spends her time in the taverns
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Speaker 1: in this sort of general fun time areas, and she's
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Speaker 1: drinking and swearing and hanging with all these buccaneers. And
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Speaker 1: that's where she meets Calico Jack real name John Rackham,
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Speaker 1: but we're gonna call him Calico Jack because it's cooler.
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Speaker 1: So she's there. I'm not surprised, though, can you imagine?
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Speaker 1: And like, I'm gonna show you some cool shit. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna go travel. We're gonna have experiences. I'm a sailor.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be wild, and we're gonna hang out
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Speaker 1: with pirates who are like the rock stars and stuff
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Speaker 1: of the day. And she's like, wow, this is amazing.
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Speaker 1: And then she gets there and she's stuck on a
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Speaker 1: bloody island. Right, well, he's selling out all their mates,
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Speaker 1: Like this is not exciting. Where is our adventure? Where
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Speaker 1: is the secret waterfall? Like? Where is it? Where is this?
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Speaker 1: And then who does she meet but an actual captain,
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Speaker 1: a proper privateer, Calico Jack Strong, you know, adventurous. Of
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Speaker 1: course he's fucking excited. And so not only does she
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Speaker 1: meet Calico Jack, but she meets Mary Reid. And see,
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Speaker 1: there's something about Mary. I couldn't help myself. So let
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Speaker 1: me tell you a little bit about Mary red Now
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Speaker 1: very similar, very similar upbringing actually or well, their paths
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Speaker 1: kind of run parallel to one another, I should say.
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Speaker 1: So Mary Reid was born around sixteen eighty ish, so
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Speaker 1: that late seventeenth century as well. So she was born
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Speaker 1: out of wedlock as well, but a bit of a
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Speaker 1: different scenario. So her mother had married a sailor and
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Speaker 1: gotten pregnant, had a son and then her husband, the sailor,
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Speaker 1: dies at sea. As far as we know, that's what happens.
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Speaker 1: And when he's away, she has an affair, gets pregnant again,
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Speaker 1: but this time with Mary, so her son passes away
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Speaker 1: you know, as an infant. But in order to protect
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Speaker 1: Mary and to you know, protect herself from the shame
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Speaker 1: of having a childhood of wedlock, she dresses Mary up
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Speaker 1: as a boy whenever she's around, like the grandmother, in
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Speaker 1: order to sort of fool the family into thinking that
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Speaker 1: this boy was still alive and that she had not
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Speaker 1: you know, had another child obviously, because the granny was
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Speaker 1: still providing like financial support for as long as possible,
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Speaker 1: and they were like, we need this because you know,
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Speaker 1: workhouses and death are kind of the only other option really,
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Speaker 1: So at this point they kind of go back and
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Speaker 1: forth and Mary is just used to it effectively. But
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Speaker 1: when she's thirteen, I know, there's thirteen comes up a lot.
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Speaker 1: She gets a job as a footman or a foot boy,
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Speaker 1: I guess, you know, you turn to the carriage, the horses,
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Speaker 1: you help the person in and out of the carriage,
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Speaker 1: whatever else they do, I don't know if it. Men
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Speaker 1: do stand and look pretty maybe, But so it starts
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Speaker 1: working as that because they're dressed as a boy, and
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Speaker 1: they make a pretty convincing boy, and so that's what
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Speaker 1: they're doing. And then gets a job on a ship.
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Speaker 1: Don't know what kind of job. Maybe it's cabin boy.
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Speaker 1: Who's to say. So she starts working on ships and
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Speaker 1: then she ends up joining like the navy. Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: I should have mentioned that Mary is English. She's born
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Speaker 1: in England. I think like Newcastle or liver Pool, somewhere
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Speaker 1: where there's not a port too far away, Sunderland maybe,
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Speaker 1: you know, somewhere some are rhythm maybe. See, I just
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Speaker 1: have a feeling she's kind of more regional. It's got
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Speaker 1: a regional accent. May not be inspired by you know,
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Speaker 1: the Assassin's Squad games. It's to the point. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: she ends up on a British Man of warship, and
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Speaker 1: then she ends up traveling to Flandels because she's just
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Speaker 1: moving about the military at this point. So while she's
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Speaker 1: in the Netherlands, Mary falls in love with a soldier
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Speaker 1: and they get married and they live a fairly normal
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Speaker 1: life for a couple of years, but then he dies
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Speaker 1: of what we don't know. It's very vague something Dutch.
25:52
Speaker 1: So he passes away from a case of the Windmills
25:56
Speaker 1: tulip fever. I've just lost my entire Dutch audience. Now
26:01
Speaker 1: they're going, hey, she was much as the windmills. Eh uh, yeah,
26:08
Speaker 1: I know, like every Dutch person is like, oh god,
26:11
Speaker 1: don't they accent kitty. It's awful and it's I'm sorry.
26:15
Speaker 1: But yeah. He dies, and Mary's like, well, I gotta
26:20
Speaker 1: go do something my life, starts dressing as a man
26:24
Speaker 1: again and is thinking, oh, maybe I'll do some military stuff.
26:27
Speaker 1: But you know, the Nine Years War is over. It's quiet,
26:32
Speaker 1: and so in search of some adventure, Mary ends up
26:38
Speaker 1: jumping onto a ship and heads for the West Indies. Now,
26:42
Speaker 1: as this ship is getting closer and closer to its destination,
26:47
Speaker 1: it is bordered by pirates, and so they're like, join
26:53
Speaker 1: us or die, and She's like, cool, joining you it
26:56
Speaker 1: is I feel like as op go, probably the better one,
27:03
Speaker 1: and so she joins that, you know, does some piracy
27:07
Speaker 1: for a bit, but manages to receive the king's pardon,
27:14
Speaker 1: gets a week job as a privateer and heads back
27:17
Speaker 1: to Nasau. So Mary and in Calico Jack all cross
27:23
Speaker 1: paths on Nasau So have they been overlapping, they knew
27:26
Speaker 1: all of each other now at one point, and starts
27:31
Speaker 1: to flirt with Mary and ends up like going, I'm
27:38
Speaker 1: a woman and Mary goes ta me too. So they
27:46
Speaker 1: exist and they start hanging out and they end up
27:51
Speaker 1: joining Calico Jack's crew. Now there comes a point where
27:57
Speaker 1: Jack is noticing how close and Mary are and he's like,
28:04
Speaker 1: I'm here for pirates, not by rates, and he just
28:07
Speaker 1: straight up like attacks Mary, puts his hand around her
28:11
Speaker 1: throat and she's like, no, dude, I'm a woman, and
28:16
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, oh, that's fine. Then I like to
28:20
Speaker 1: think of it as that sort of cartoon holding up
28:23
Speaker 1: and then just let's go, and she just like boof,
28:26
Speaker 1: slides Doren at the ground and carries on about our day. Yeah,
28:30
Speaker 1: because Calico Jack and Ann they've been having an affair
28:34
Speaker 1: for a while, right, and oh yeah, Anne leaves her husband.
28:38
Speaker 1: Did I forget to mention that, because she's like, bye
28:42
Speaker 1: bye Bonnie, bye bye. Gonna keep your name though, but
28:44
Speaker 1: you are a motherfucker. So she leaves him, and Calico
28:50
Speaker 1: Jack actually tries to buy John Bonnie off, like he
28:55
Speaker 1: tries to pay John Bonnie to divorce Anne, so that
28:59
Speaker 1: he can marry her, and John Bonnie's like no, and
29:05
Speaker 1: John Bonnie actually ends up threatening Calico Jack, like not
29:11
Speaker 1: the best of ideas to threaten the captain of a
29:14
Speaker 1: pirate ship, just as a general rule feels like not
29:19
Speaker 1: something we should do. No, they decided to say fuck
29:24
Speaker 1: you to that, and they just bug her off on
29:26
Speaker 1: the ship. So when she initially joins the crew, you know,
29:31
Speaker 1: her and Mary are both dressed as men, and only
29:35
Speaker 1: the three of them know, like what's happening and who's
29:40
Speaker 1: who and that they're women dressed as men aboard the ship.
29:45
Speaker 1: And they very much keep this low key for quite
29:48
Speaker 1: a while until it's clear that Anne is pregnant. So
29:54
Speaker 1: they end up having to stop off in Cuba for
29:57
Speaker 1: her to rest, and they go off, and she stays
30:00
Speaker 1: in Cuba for a bit, gives birth to a son,
30:03
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, not really sure what happens to him,
30:08
Speaker 1: but she gives birth, and then once she's you know,
30:12
Speaker 1: healed and doing better, she ends up rejoining Calico Jack
30:16
Speaker 1: on the ship. But this is where things turn a
30:20
Speaker 1: little bit because a run about this time, she divorces
30:26
Speaker 1: John Bonney or he dies or something, it doesn't matter
30:30
Speaker 1: he's out the picture, and she ends up remarrying, and
30:35
Speaker 1: she marries Calico Jack, and they get married on a ship,
30:40
Speaker 1: because of course they do. Like Mary's there always the
30:44
Speaker 1: bird is made, never the braid holding a bouquet of seaweed.
30:52
Speaker 1: Maybe shot a starfish in there for decoration, some coral perchance,
30:57
Speaker 1: maybe Pokey b be fine. Yeah, they get married and
31:03
Speaker 1: they are outs, loving their best lives, full on pirate's
31:11
Speaker 1: life for me, you ho ho, it's one for all
31:15
Speaker 1: for one. We share and share alike with you and
31:19
Speaker 1: treature like son well gentlemen of fortune, and that's what
31:24
Speaker 1: we're bound to be. And when you're a provisional pirate,
31:29
Speaker 1: you'll be honest, brave and free and the soul of decency.
31:33
Speaker 1: You'll be loyal and fair, run on the square, and
31:36
Speaker 1: most importantly, when you're provisional pirate, you're always in the
31:43
Speaker 1: best of company. I would like to apologize to Tim
31:49
Speaker 1: Curry for destroying his song, but I regret nothing, and
31:54
Speaker 1: I love him up. Treasure Island, go for your house.
31:59
Speaker 1: In fact, everything's fat. So basically they end up nicking
32:03
Speaker 1: the ship called the Willium, and so Calico Jack, Mary
32:08
Speaker 1: Reid and Bonnie they like get together a crew. And
32:12
Speaker 1: when they're on the ship, like in general, when they're
32:15
Speaker 1: just kicking about, Mary and Anne are wearing just like
32:19
Speaker 1: normal women's clothes, like they're wearing dresses, they're wearing you know, chemises,
32:25
Speaker 1: the whole shebang. They're dressing appropriately for their gender upon
32:29
Speaker 1: the ship. But when it came to like doing piracy shit, yeah,
32:35
Speaker 1: then they would dress in men's clothing, probably because it's
32:38
Speaker 1: easier to move around in. And also my favorite part,
32:43
Speaker 1: Now this might be bullshit, but I really would like
32:47
Speaker 1: to think it's true because it sounds like something one
32:51
Speaker 1: of these women would do. It's something I would do
32:54
Speaker 1: if I wanted to like surprise somebody in this era.
32:58
Speaker 1: And it's when they were five. So they would wear
33:00
Speaker 1: like a men's shirt. I know, I tapped my chest
33:04
Speaker 1: as if you'll know what that is. But yeah, they
33:07
Speaker 1: would wear like a men's shirt with you know, the
33:09
Speaker 1: long coats and whatever. And when they were sword fighting
33:12
Speaker 1: and swashbuckling and being you know, just cool ass bitches,
33:19
Speaker 1: they would sometimes to distract or just for the extra
33:24
Speaker 1: bit of sass, to kind of go, look, motherfucker, a
33:28
Speaker 1: Owen defeating the wraith, like pulling off the helmet going
33:32
Speaker 1: I am no man like go and full on. They
33:37
Speaker 1: would just under the tie at the front of their
33:42
Speaker 1: sort of blouse to show that they had breasts and
33:46
Speaker 1: just be like, look at these wah wah wah wah.
33:51
Speaker 1: And so shocked would the men be, And they'd be like, ah, breasts,
33:56
Speaker 1: probably because they haven't seen a woman in months, and
33:59
Speaker 1: also because cause you know, so pale. It's like the
34:03
Speaker 1: Beacon of Gonder. I have made two Lord of the
34:05
Speaker 1: Rings references in under three minutes. I've never been prouder
34:09
Speaker 1: of myself for it. Just flash their tits, which I'll
34:15
Speaker 1: be honest with you, is a good move sometimes because
34:18
Speaker 1: it's misdirection. It's a good thing. I mean, don't do
34:23
Speaker 1: it all the time. Don't do it in specific public areas,
34:27
Speaker 1: like there are times where this is appropriate and funny,
34:31
Speaker 1: like this situation with you know, pirates and swords, but
34:36
Speaker 1: not not like in a soccer match. Don't do that.
34:41
Speaker 1: Don't do that. But yes, these lads are just swanning
34:44
Speaker 1: about Jamaica and they are raking it in. And bear
34:50
Speaker 1: in mind that this period of time between like her
34:55
Speaker 1: giving birth, getting back on the ship and them sort
34:59
Speaker 1: of traveling around the you know, Jamaica and stealing a
35:03
Speaker 1: bunch of shit. You're talking a few months, six months.
35:08
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not a full year, Like it's a good
35:12
Speaker 1: number of months, but it's definitely not a full year.
35:15
Speaker 1: And so they're doing this, living their best lives. And
35:20
Speaker 1: the new governor of Jamaica is like, I need you
35:23
Speaker 1: to stop these urseholes. They're fucking up my trade routes
35:28
Speaker 1: because they're like out and they'll get one ship and
35:30
Speaker 1: it's like one hundred and seventy pounds and as a lie,
35:35
Speaker 1: it was like ten pounds and it's one hundred and
35:39
Speaker 1: seventy today's money. And then like the last ship they raided,
35:44
Speaker 1: they ended up getting what was it like a thousand
35:49
Speaker 1: pounds worth of goods and money and whatnot, which I
35:54
Speaker 1: looked it up with inflation in today's money, is like
36:00
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy grand. Like it's a good chunk
36:04
Speaker 1: that they had managed to pill for in pillage and
36:07
Speaker 1: other words that begin with P. And they went and
36:10
Speaker 1: did that, and the Governor of Jamaica is like, I
36:13
Speaker 1: really really cannot be ours with these guys. I needed
36:17
Speaker 1: to round them up, and so he sends off the
36:20
Speaker 1: sloops to go get them. And so in October of
36:24
Speaker 1: seventeen twenty, I mean a Bonnie's going to be maybe
36:31
Speaker 1: in her twenties twenties ish, Yeah, not that old at all.
36:38
Speaker 1: And she's on the William. She's on the ship and
36:44
Speaker 1: it's been a heavy night for quite a lot of
36:46
Speaker 1: the lads and they are pissed his farts, Like maybe
36:52
Speaker 1: they're just hungover, but they've been drinking. And the only
36:55
Speaker 1: three that really have any sort of any sort of
37:00
Speaker 1: wherewithal are Mary Ann and Calico Jack. And he's still
37:06
Speaker 1: not great, he's kind of ife. But Mary and Anne.
37:12
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it, and like there's probably a
37:15
Speaker 1: damn fine reason why they didn't get drunk with a
37:17
Speaker 1: bunch of men, And it's probably a self protection thing,
37:21
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't get as drunk as them, because you
37:23
Speaker 1: need to be able to protect yourself because say, I mean,
37:27
Speaker 1: I was gonna say safety in numbers, but like if
37:29
Speaker 1: you compare those two of you against all these fellas,
37:33
Speaker 1: probably safer to have the upper hand in some way.
37:36
Speaker 1: Oh and another thing and did actually was she used
37:39
Speaker 1: a fake name and she told people her name was
37:42
Speaker 1: Anne Fulford. Where she got Fulford from I don't know,
37:45
Speaker 1: but it's like none of hers. So, yeah, they are
37:51
Speaker 1: on the ship Woods Rogers, the governor of the Bahamas.
37:56
Speaker 1: He calls for the arrest of John Calico, Jack Rantham,
38:02
Speaker 1: Mary Reid, and Anne Filvord. Don't know where she got
38:07
Speaker 1: the name Filverd from because it's not fromr side, because
38:10
Speaker 1: he is absolutely done with their tom fuckery because they're
38:14
Speaker 1: on this ship, the Volume, which they had taken and
38:17
Speaker 1: they had renamed the Revenge because it's a cooler name,
38:22
Speaker 1: very emo, like, what's your ship's name? The Revenge? Oh wow,
38:27
Speaker 1: what's your ship's name? The Despair? Ooh, that's what you're
38:34
Speaker 1: missing is your forty five degree fringes and your spray
38:37
Speaker 1: on trousers. But yeah, it's they're just causing an absolute
38:43
Speaker 1: commotion because they've gone around and they've attacked merchant vessels
38:49
Speaker 1: and fishing boats and generally made people aree but unhappy,
38:54
Speaker 1: and so they're kind of kind of dumb with it,
38:57
Speaker 1: and they've taken this captain hostage, and there was a
39:00
Speaker 1: woman on the ship named Dorothy, and Anne and Mary
39:05
Speaker 1: straight up fucking vicious are like, let's kill her because
39:09
Speaker 1: we don't want her to go back and say that
39:11
Speaker 1: we're here, and Calico Jack's like, we cannot just murder everybody.
39:17
Speaker 1: But we're pirates though, but we cannot just murder everybody.
39:21
Speaker 1: You just is around okay, hear me out though. We
39:26
Speaker 1: we're pirates though, And this goes back and forth, and
39:30
Speaker 1: he's just like, no, no, let's let's put her on
39:33
Speaker 1: a canoe and let her a little bit of liver
39:36
Speaker 1: Bit's life. So basically he has to overrule them. They're
39:40
Speaker 1: vetoed and Dorothy goes free. What happens to her after
39:43
Speaker 1: that not entirely sure, but you know, Barnett's coming for them,
39:50
Speaker 1: and he is on the Spanish succession and coming for
39:54
Speaker 1: them he is because shockingly, Dorothy get gives him the information.
40:02
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, they were round about this area, and
40:05
Speaker 1: he actually listens to her directions and goes there. So
40:09
Speaker 1: he ends up anchoring in bloody Bee, yes that's his name,
40:15
Speaker 1: bloody Bee, and he waits. So naturally the revenge comes
40:23
Speaker 1: into anchor, and as I said before, everybody is fucking sloshed.
40:29
Speaker 1: They are drunk. Apart from I think Mary and Anne,
40:32
Speaker 1: the open two are like just pure sober. They didn't
40:35
Speaker 1: touch ship, so it's there in bloody Bee, dark as shit,
40:40
Speaker 1: and en rolls up Barnett and he's like surrender, and
40:46
Speaker 1: Calico Jack's like, no, I'm sure it was more eloquent
40:50
Speaker 1: than that. But basically he shows up, he's got a
40:54
Speaker 1: flag waving from his ship and he's he's saying, you
41:00
Speaker 1: know you're gonna surrender, mate, and the captain is like, eh,
41:05
Speaker 1: I will neither give nor take quarter, which was more
41:11
Speaker 1: bravidal than anything nailse because Barnett just fires some cannons
41:15
Speaker 1: and they just like smash into the ship, and so
41:19
Speaker 1: he's like everybody down in the hold so calcuch accent
41:23
Speaker 1: and everybody trying to get down to like patch up
41:25
Speaker 1: these holes. And Mary and Anne are like, what are
41:32
Speaker 1: you doing? Is anybody gonna stay up here and fight?
41:34
Speaker 1: Because you know they're coming aboard, And so Mary ends
41:40
Speaker 1: up screaming if there's a man about you, you come
41:43
Speaker 1: up and fight like the man you ought to be.
41:47
Speaker 1: That was a very bad loverpool accent, and so she
41:50
Speaker 1: is like screaming, people like fucking fight pals, and so
41:57
Speaker 1: Anne and Mary are like splashbuckle and they're fighting for
42:02
Speaker 1: their lives and they're doing their best to sort of
42:05
Speaker 1: avoid capture, but Barnet and his full on crew of
42:11
Speaker 1: sober men easily overtake this crew, and so he deals
42:18
Speaker 1: with it. He captures them and they're arrested and they
42:21
Speaker 1: are sent to Port Royal where they stay for a
42:25
Speaker 1: little while before being carted off to Spanish town to
42:30
Speaker 1: go on trial. So they get a Spanish town and
42:34
Speaker 1: the first person to be sentenced to death, or at
42:38
Speaker 1: least one of the first, was Calico Jack. And on
42:44
Speaker 1: the eighteenth of November seventeen twenty, he asks to go
42:48
Speaker 1: see Anne because he wants to see her before you know,
42:51
Speaker 1: his short drop in a sudden stop and she's like, mmm, okay,
42:58
Speaker 1: I guess and he goes to see her. Instead of
43:02
Speaker 1: her giving him any words of comfort, you know, she
43:08
Speaker 1: says to him, if you had fought like a man,
43:12
Speaker 1: you need not have been hanged like a dog. Yeah. Yeah,
43:20
Speaker 1: she was still pretty bitter about you know, him making
43:24
Speaker 1: everybody hide and instead of fighting and leaving her to
43:28
Speaker 1: get captured like uh not souper on it. So Kaliko Jack.
43:33
Speaker 1: He gets hanged later that day down at the Callow's Point,
43:37
Speaker 1: So Dorothy the one they get away and then the
43:40
Speaker 1: original captain Thomas whatever they'd captured, like, they come out
43:45
Speaker 1: as witnesses and they basically damned the entire crew, like
43:48
Speaker 1: everybody's fucked. And most of the crew, if not all
43:52
Speaker 1: of them, are like not guilty, not guilty. And of
43:56
Speaker 1: course this isn't the modern law system where you have
43:59
Speaker 1: to prove shit. They're just like, yep, kill, you're getting hung.
44:06
Speaker 1: And this is just a big blanket sentencing for everyone
44:12
Speaker 1: except and and Mary. So basically they're given the death
44:17
Speaker 1: sentence right like chunk chunk gavel gavel gap gabble, no gavel,
44:24
Speaker 1: gravel gavel. So the gavel is hit and they're sentenced
44:28
Speaker 1: to death and then they you know, plead on their bellies. Now,
44:35
Speaker 1: the customs and rules of the time was that you
44:39
Speaker 1: couldn't like hang a pregnant woman, like you couldn't kill
44:42
Speaker 1: a pregnant person, Like that's just not something you could do.
44:45
Speaker 1: And both of them were pregnant, you know, and so
44:50
Speaker 1: they had to have a stay of execution where they
44:53
Speaker 1: decided what to do. Right, So Anne and Mary they
44:58
Speaker 1: end up and absolute shit hole. I mean, it's a
45:02
Speaker 1: you know, eighteenth century prison. Of course, it's not going
45:08
Speaker 1: to be you know, a spa day. So about six
45:12
Speaker 1: months later, Mary re dies of what is called jail fever.
45:20
Speaker 1: Now I've seen reports of it being typhe is or
45:22
Speaker 1: just like complications from childbirth, like one of those. But
45:27
Speaker 1: she passes away, but Anne manages to survive. What happens
45:34
Speaker 1: to the baby though we don't know, we have nothing
45:37
Speaker 1: there now. The records are kind of funny. So because
45:46
Speaker 1: Anne's family was pretty well known, there's there are stories
45:51
Speaker 1: that her dad basically paid, you know, he bribed, he
45:55
Speaker 1: bribes some people effectively for her to get out and
45:58
Speaker 1: get the heck at Dodge and come back to you know,
46:01
Speaker 1: South Carolina where she stayed, got married, had kids, grandkids,
46:07
Speaker 1: so on and so forth, and she just loved out
46:10
Speaker 1: her life. Now, there was a little bit of contradicting
46:14
Speaker 1: research there because there's an Anne Bonnie who's like those
46:20
Speaker 1: parish records for a burial of Anne Bonnie in seventeen
46:24
Speaker 1: thirty one as well. So the question is did Anne
46:28
Speaker 1: Bonne die on the island in her early thirties or
46:35
Speaker 1: did she flee and love a nice long life up
46:40
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46:45
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