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Ross Mathews on 90 Day Fiancé, Catfishing and Hollywood · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I have such a great show for you today. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to catch you up on some hot topics and
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  Speaker 2: then I get into even more funny hot topics with
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  Speaker 2: one of your favorites, the infamous, fabulous Ross Matthews. We
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  Speaker 2: get into 90 Day Fiancé in which he is hosting
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  Speaker 2: the reunion as well as many fun memories from our
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  Speaker 2: past and juicy things from the Drew Barrymore show to
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  Speaker 1: So let's get into it.
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  Speaker 2: First, let me give you some more scoop that came
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  Speaker 2: out just a couple days ago in the world of Bravo.
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  Speaker 2: So many people are speculating, will Vanderpump Rules with the
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  Speaker 2: new cast, are they coming back or not? It's still
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  Speaker 2: up in the air. And the reason people are questioning
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  Speaker 2: it is because they announced that Lisa Vanderpump has a
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  Speaker 2: brand new show about her life running her restaurants in
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  Speaker 2: Las Vegas, which I have said Would have been great.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm a genius. I'm just saying I
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  Speaker 2: do think this is great. I love Las Vegas as
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  Speaker 2: far as a genre of television and film. It is
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  Speaker 2: just such an interesting place. It's fun and exciting, depressing, aspiring.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what other people will be featured in it,
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  Speaker 2: but like I said in the past when I've manifested this,
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  Speaker 2: just manifesting mama, I've said you could have an aspiring comedian.
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  Speaker 2: You could have an aspiring... aerialist you could have an
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  Speaker 2: aspiring magician um actor model you know just pretty girl
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  Speaker 2: looking to marry a sugar daddy I don't know all
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  Speaker 2: working at the restaurant and I'm hoping they found those
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  Speaker 2: interesting characters the name is great Lisa Las Vegas like
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  Speaker 2: viva Las Vegas so I think it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: great I predict that unfortunately I don't think Vanderpump will
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  Speaker 2: come back the original one with the new cast, it
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  Speaker 2: just seemed to get very little buzz. I didn't even
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  Speaker 2: realize that they had a reunion. They did. So there
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  Speaker 2: you go with that. There's also another new show called,
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  Speaker 2: let me read that, Secret Lies, Texas Wives. It's kind
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  Speaker 2: of taking off the name of The Hunting Wives, which
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  Speaker 2: was such a hit. The scripted show from Netflix about
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  Speaker 2: gun-toting women bisexual late-in-life lesbians that also have husbands and
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  Speaker 2: are God-fearing women in wigs. There is a place called Bourne, Texas,
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  Speaker 2: and they're supposedly all from there, and they live a
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  Speaker 2: life while working on a ranch. I'm getting some inside
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  Speaker 2: scoop about this show, that not everybody is exactly from
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  Speaker 2: Bourne or they don't live on ranches. That is always
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  Speaker 2: the case with these shows. You know, they've got to
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  Speaker 2: cast them. They got to make the most of this production.
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  Speaker 2: And remember, Kim Richards didn't live in Beverly Hills either
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  Speaker 2: when the show started. So a real house was Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 2: So there you go. There's also going to be some
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  Speaker 2: short vertical shows. We've talked a lot about vertical shows
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  Speaker 2: lately in Hollywood, which is basically a shorter episodic show
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  Speaker 2: that you watch like you would vertically on your phone,
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  Speaker 2: like a TikTok. One, Madison from Southern Charm is going
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  Speaker 2: to have one where she's doing people's hair and putting
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  Speaker 2: in their weave while they tell them some great confessional thing.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to say, do you imagine if you
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  Speaker 2: spill your beans about having an affair on your husband
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  Speaker 2: or something real juicy or real confessional that you would
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  Speaker 2: tell your hairdresser and you give it all for a
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  Speaker 2: free weave on a vertical show? Like you're not even
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  Speaker 2: on a regular Peacock show. You're not making the most
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  Speaker 2: of it like Risa Tisa, you know, that got 12
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  Speaker 2: deals from telling her awful story about her husband on
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  Speaker 2: TikTok in the 10-minute long form. So I'm guessing, though
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  Speaker 2: I love Madison, she's very pretty, I'm guessing the confessionals
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  Speaker 2: are very produced and they're not any life-changing juice in
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  Speaker 2: which someone's life would be ruined. So, but fun little idea.
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  Speaker 2: And I think there's a version of that too. A
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  Speaker 2: couple other ones. We know the Gen Z, the next
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  Speaker 2: gen kids of children from Real Housewives. Are they going
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  Speaker 2: to be doing LA? I don't know when that's coming out.
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  Speaker 2: But so those are a little bit there. And they're
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  Speaker 2: doing like a one day fan fest mini BravoCon in Charlotte.
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  Speaker 2: So those are the big news out of that. Dorit
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  Speaker 2: and PK, my God, this is just continuing on and on.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who to believe. People are wondering how
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  Speaker 2: does Dorit make this much money? He says she makes $ 3. 3 million.
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  Speaker 2: He makes $ 3. 2 million a year. She spends all the
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  Speaker 2: money on the clothes. He spends his life living like
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  Speaker 2: a pauper, but spending all the money on the kids
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  Speaker 2: and everything. you know, but nobody bothered to spend the
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  Speaker 2: money on the mortgage. And now their house is in
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  Speaker 2: foreclosure and it's like a few days away. So I
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  Speaker 2: want to know how much was the mortgage payment, how,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in her defense, she said that was his job.
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  Speaker 2: And I kept, and there's texts saying that she keeps
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  Speaker 2: asking about it. He's like, ignore that letter. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean anything. And he's saying he wants the world to
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  Speaker 2: know that she is a shopaholic of major designer things,
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  Speaker 2: She spent like a million dollars over a four month
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  Speaker 2: period or something like that. So, you know what it
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  Speaker 2: reminds me of? Betty Broderick. Betty Broderick, I'm not accusing
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  Speaker 2: anyone of going down the Betty Broderick route, but when
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  Speaker 2: she was going through her divorce, she was spending like
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  Speaker 2: crazy designer clothes just to spend the money that was
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  Speaker 2: still theirs together before it was separated. Now, It appears
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  Speaker 2: that Dorit always spent this way and she just was
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  Speaker 2: continuing to do it. I don't know. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if it's a hoarding situation or what. The next exciting
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  Speaker 2: a preview of next week of West, who is making
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  Speaker 2: out with Ciara. So there's three women that we've talked
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  Speaker 2: about with this West character. There is the woman he's
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  Speaker 2: currently with, Amanda, who is married to Kyle. There's also
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  Speaker 2: a clip from this past episode where they're hugging and
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  Speaker 2: kissing and they say, I love you. Like a hug
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  Speaker 2: and like a kiss on a cheek. And it's a
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  Speaker 2: long embrace. It's tits against chest. It's boner against crotch.
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  Speaker 2: It's embracing. It's snuggling in the neck with your platonic
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  Speaker 2: friend while you're married who is also screwing or had
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  Speaker 2: been screwing your friend Sierra. And the I love you
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  Speaker 2: just flows off. The lips. They have claimed that nothing
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  Speaker 2: was going on during the summer sexually. Well, of course,
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  Speaker 2: people don't believe it. My first thought when I saw
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  Speaker 2: this was, can someone check on Jen Fessler, the Real
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  Speaker 2: Housewives of New Jersey woman who Sierra accused of also
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  Speaker 2: sleeping with West? She has denied it. She said that
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  Speaker 2: West called her and spoke to the family and said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I don't know how this crazy rumor
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  Speaker 2: got started. but then also they showed a preview at
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  Speaker 2: the upfronts, which is all the advertisers in which Kyle
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  Speaker 2: reveals that West has also had a full on relationship
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  Speaker 2: with a whole nother woman this past year. So we
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  Speaker 2: might even be cheating on Amanda with her. Who the
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  Speaker 2: hell knows? And then we see next week he makes
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  Speaker 2: out with Sierra again. I mean, this guy, it's a
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  Speaker 2: fascinating situation and I've talked a lot about it and
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  Speaker 2: we even talked about it more at the live show,
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  Speaker 2: which you want to get. Um, Also, according to the
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  Speaker 2: New York Post, it's an exclusive. Meghan Markle is basically
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  Speaker 2: the breadwinner. Yeah, we know that. And the funds are tight.
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  Speaker 2: And she's focusing on growing her as-ever lifestyle range after
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  Speaker 2: recently parting ways with Netflix. Money is tight. How is
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  Speaker 2: she going to do it? Well, they were just at Disneyland.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that they got free tickets. And all
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  Speaker 2: the photos were taken hiding the children's identities, shooting them
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  Speaker 2: from the back. So obviously she allowed people to come
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  Speaker 2: with her and was like, show these photos. Let's get
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  Speaker 2: it out that we're just a cute family. And they
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  Speaker 2: even had a moment where the little girl, Lilibet, gets
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  Speaker 2: to meet the Disney princesses. And I'm like, what a shame.
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  Speaker 2: Does she even know that her mom at one time
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  Speaker 2: was a princess? She's going to Disneyland waiting in a hot,
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  Speaker 2: sweaty line. with a bunch of commoners, when she, in fact,
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  Speaker 2: is a princess, or could have been, had they not left.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you guys, I predicted the Las Vegas Lisa
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  Speaker 2: Vanderpump show. Meghan Markle is going to be on something
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  Speaker 2: that features her kids and her husband sooner than we think.
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  Speaker 2: Whether it's an ensemble-type show, reality, something. She's going to
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  Speaker 2: have to. Pimp out those kids, which I think is
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  Speaker 2: crazy because the whole thing was privacy, privacy, privacy. The
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  Speaker 2: privacy tour, our kids need to stay private. We're not
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  Speaker 2: safe without 24 security. Yet you're going to Disneyland and
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  Speaker 2: we know what's coming because you don't have a deal
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  Speaker 2: with Netflix anymore. So good luck to you. Jamie Foxx
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  Speaker 2: is going to be a dad again. He has a
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  Speaker 2: beautiful blonde girlfriend who I looked up the age. I've
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  Speaker 2: heard anything from 22 or 30. He is 58. She's
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  Speaker 2: young and beautiful, and she is having his baby, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure they're very happy together. All of that's so interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Remember when he dated Katie Holmes for like two years?
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  Speaker 2: That was a weird match. He has a 33-year-old daughter
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  Speaker 2: and a 17-year-old daughter from two different relationships, and we
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  Speaker 2: wish them luck. He's got a bunch of pickleball courts
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  Speaker 2: on his property that I played out that are real fun.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sure his kid will get a free paddle
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  Speaker 2: out of it. All right, you guys. Now I'm very
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  Speaker 2: excited to talk to my dear friend, Ross Matthew. It's
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  Speaker 2: like two old gals laughing it up and remembering things
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  Speaker 2: and getting into some juicy scoop. And here we are
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  Speaker 2: with the television personality and everybody's best friend, Ross Matthews.
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  Speaker 2: I have one of my favorite people on earth. He's
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  Speaker 2: really grown up. He's really become a huge star. From
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  Speaker 2: intern to host to the star of the Drew Barrymore show,
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  Speaker 2: drag race, and now host of TLC's 90 Day Single Life.
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  Speaker 2: Is that the title of the reunion?
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  Speaker 1: It's 90 Day, The Single Life, The Tell All.
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  Speaker 2: The Tell All. And I mean- Talk about manifesting a
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  Speaker 2: dream come true.
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  Speaker 1: I know. Listen, Heather, it's like I would watch 90
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  Speaker 1: Day Fiance. I have since season one, right? And I
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  Speaker 1: would talk at the TV. You know me. I'm an
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  Speaker 1: engaged viewer. I'm invested. And I just wouldn't shut up
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  Speaker 1: about this show. And I talked about it on my
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  Speaker 1: social media. I talked about it on the Drew show.
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  Speaker 1: And I just kept talking about it because I love it.
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  Speaker 1: And then Cut to now, and I'm hosting the tell-all.
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  Speaker 1: It is like I'm crawled into my favorite show. It's
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  Speaker 1: like a dream come true.
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  Speaker 2: And how did the offer come about?
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  Speaker 1: You want to know the nitty-gritty?
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  Speaker 2: I do. I kind of want to know, like, was
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  Speaker 2: it just like, you know, you saw an email, or
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  Speaker 2: was it something else?
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  Speaker 1: There was an email, and then I was like, you
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  Speaker 1: know— Aya the tiger. I knew that this was the gig.
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  Speaker 1: I knew that I wanted this, you know, and so
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  Speaker 1: I just convinced them, I think. And the truth is, Heather,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like there are some things that I know
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  Speaker 1: I'm not meant for, you know, like I'm like, I'm not,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be good at that. And this,
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  Speaker 1: I just knew it. I knew on my bones, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when I was a little kid, I used to watch
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  Speaker 1: Regis and Kathie Lee with my mom. And I remember being,
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  Speaker 1: I just was like, I know I'm going to do that.
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  Speaker 1: I want to do that. You just see how you
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  Speaker 1: know things. I just knew it, that this was going
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  Speaker 1: to happen.
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  Speaker 2: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
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  Speaker 2: for it?
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  Speaker 1: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
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  Speaker 1: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
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  Speaker 2: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
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  Speaker 1: It's Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 3: Where?
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  Speaker 2: Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 1: There's an accent on the E.
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  Speaker 2: Do you mean.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 3: Lift? Please.
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  Speaker 2: Are you going past Kimmage?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
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  Speaker 3: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
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  Speaker 3: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
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  Speaker 3: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
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  Speaker 1: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
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  Speaker 2: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
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  Speaker 2: filed against me.
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  Speaker 1: When your free will is about to be taken from you,
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  Speaker 1: what would you do if it was given back?
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  Speaker 3: Where did that need come from where you thought that
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  Speaker 3: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
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  Speaker 1: He said, I have a work dad.
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  Speaker 3: I need a home dad.
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  Speaker 1: What happens next?
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  Speaker 2: When I came in, he started crying. Everybody in life
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  Speaker 2: encounters hardships.
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  Speaker 3: What defines them is not those hard moments that they
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  Speaker 3: go through. It's about what happens next.
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  Speaker 1: I decided to risk it all.
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  Speaker 2: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
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  Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
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  Speaker 3: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
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  Speaker 3: Only one question matters. What happens next?
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of the way I felt about Oprah. I
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  Speaker 2: was like watching Oprah and I said, I either want
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  Speaker 2: to be Oprah or I want to work on a
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  Speaker 2: show like that.
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  Speaker 1: I get it. Like juicy stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And look at me now.
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  Speaker 1: No, but truthfully, look at you now. But seriously, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You are doing like the
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  Speaker 1: 2026 version of that in your way. You're doing, we
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  Speaker 1: do feel things in our bones. I also love when
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  Speaker 1: you said manifest because I've never, you know, I guess
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  Speaker 1: I do put the man in manifest, don't I?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. You're a married man. Still, like, I think one
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  Speaker 2: of the funnest destination weddings I ever had the pleasure
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  Speaker 2: of going to. Such fun people. It was so beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: I love that you were there in your yellow dress.
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  Speaker 1: You look so pretty. It was one of the best
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  Speaker 1: weddings in the history of time. It just was so fun.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone was in a great mood. The energy was the best,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: And how many years are you guys celebrating now? Are
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  Speaker 2: you like four or five?
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  Speaker 1: Literally four. It was our fourth anniversary, I think, last week.
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  Speaker 1: Still going strong. It's the best. I really just think
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  Speaker 1: my husband is the shit. And I think that that's
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  Speaker 1: the key. He's smarter than me in different ways. I'm
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  Speaker 1: smarter in a couple, maybe one other way. But he
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  Speaker 1: keeps me on my toes. He thinks I'm the shit too,
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  Speaker 1: but he also nudges me a little bit. I just
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  Speaker 1: feel like a better version of myself than I've been,
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  Speaker 1: you know, not, I just think maybe that's growth that's
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  Speaker 1: getting older, but I like it. I like how I'm,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: how I'm aging.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I do too. Now, I remember when you told me
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: how you met and you did meet in Puerto Vallarta, right?
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: On a vacation, you were on a vacation and you
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: met there. Yeah.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: We met like, um, the pilgrims used to, you know, um,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: in person on vacation in Puerto Vallarta, like no apps,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: just like no, just like old school.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: So do you think in your fascination of 90 Day Fiancé,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: because I always feel like 90 Day Fiancé proves that
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I don't care where you stand politically, but there are
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: people all over this world that will fuck some of
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: our ugliest citizens to become an American. And we need
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: to be grateful to be American.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: You're such a pessimist. You are such a pessimist.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: But no, I'm just saying, like, you see there's certain
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: couples on there that you're like, this is never going
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: to last. And then there's an extra thing of like
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: they get to be on TV, too. So imagine you
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: want to come to America and you think when you
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: think of America, you think of Hollywood. And then they
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: meet somebody and then the opportunity comes to meet and
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: to pursue this romance and be on TV. It's like
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: a triple header. And then we get to sit back
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: and watch it. Sometimes it does work out, you know,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: but it's very, it is so much fun. And, you know,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: there's been so many seasons and so many variations of it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: But do you think had you not found the love
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: of your life, would you have ever sought out, you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: someone from another country?
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Well, that's a very interesting question.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: So for starters, you are a pessimist the way you
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: view it. Because this is how I view 90 Day.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I view that their love has no borders. Okay. Like,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: No, I totally think. I think it's– but I'm saying
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: an appeal– has to be that this person from another
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: country has a dream of possibly be living in america
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: but then they do then they do it the other
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: way too which is fun.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I do like the other way too here's the deal
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: i don't know that it's all about getting to america
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: but i do know that there are certain hurdles to
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: that that um are just in place when you when
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: you fall in love with somebody from another country uh
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Would I have been open to it? Absolutely. Listen, I
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: love my Wellington. You know that. I like my husband.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: But if I found somebody, you know, like say, you know,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: online or something, I was like dating. It was like, oh,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: let me fly over there and meet them. Like I
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: would have been open to it. I wouldn't have let
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: a boundary keep me from somebody.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Now, what do you think about sort of The catfishing
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: element of dating someone in another country that can happen
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: to people.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Unforgivable. Listen, a perfect example of this would be Jenny
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: and Sumit. If you watch 90 Day Fiancé, when Jenny
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: first started dating Sumit, and by the way, they have
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: been together and now happily married for, I don't know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: eight years.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, like a long time. I know the couple
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: you're talking about. She is white, right?
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: From Palm Springs?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Yes. Mm-hmm. And where was he from again? India. Okay.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: And yes, they went through the whole thing. When they
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: first met, they were talking and he was using a
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: different picture, right? And then, you know, came clean and like,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I would have been out, out right away. You give
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: me a different picture.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Like, you don't have to be a 10, you know
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: what I mean?
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I'm lucky that I married a 10, but like, you
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: don't have to be a 10 to get with this,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? There have been a few
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: less than 10s along the way. So I wouldn't have,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: but if you lie to me, you're out immediately. But look,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: they were able to get over that little bump. But catfishing,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I think, is a red flag concept. Red, total red flag.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: There are so many red flags. I wish I could,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: you know what? I wish I could help people dating.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I would love to be like a wingman for people.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I am really good at it. I dated for a
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: long time. I liked dating.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I liked it. Yeah.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: You know? And I wish I could help people through it.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: People should ask me, send me a DM at hello Ross.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I will help you with your dating life for free.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that you, yeah, I think that you
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: do give great advice.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: You know, you've lived such a life. You know, you
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: started out just a little boy washing Regison.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: It was Kathie Lee at the time.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: And then you became Ross the intern, which you truly
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: was an intern, and then you came on camera.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Can you believe, Heather, that was 25 years ago that
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I started on Leno? 25 years ago.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: That's amazing. And then, you know, we met on Chelsea
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Lately and, you know, had great chemistry. Though I accept that...
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: A guy as fabulous as you has great chemistry with
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: other women besides just me. And it's hard when you
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: realize that there's other women out there. I'm a gay womanizer,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: aren't I? You are. More than anybody else.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I never thought of that. And all the girls that
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: you have cheated on me with, I also adore. So
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I think as a serial gay womanizer, you actually have
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: a great picker. So I appreciate being in a great pool. Picker. Oh, picker.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: You pick great women.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I thought you said I... Okay, I thought you said pecker.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: No, I have a great picker. That too, yeah.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Listen, here's the deal. I never thought about this before,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: but I, you know, it's not that I hit it
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: and quit it. I didn't quit you, Heather.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: No, you have long-term. You're like... You're like Cody from Sisterwise.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: You have many women.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I was going to say like Warren Jeffs, you know,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: of– Warren Jeffs. That guy who had like multiple wives,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: you know. I'm definitely the him of gay womanizers. Without– yeah, without,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you know– Without the like the child bride stuff. I
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: don't do– yeah, without that.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: No, you don't do underage anything. So that's nice. No, no.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: That is nice. Isn't that nice?
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: You have such great chemistry, but really so perfect for Drew.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: The show has been on now for how many years?
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Gosh, you know, honestly, we just finished our sixth season
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and we just got picked up for season seven and eight.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: And Heather, you know, you know how difficult that is
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: in daytime TV. And this has nothing to do with me. Honestly,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: it has to do with Drew because she, in those
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: years when it wasn't, easy, where we were like on
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the bubble. I think the powers that be said, if
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: anyone's going to pop through, it's going to be Drew
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: because she's got a work ethic. She's got an iconic,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: you know, she's iconic and she has that iconic name recognition.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: And I think they just took a chance on her.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: And I will tell you, if you're going to take
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: a chance on someone, take a chance on Drew Barrymore
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: because she's real deal. You met her. She's the real deal.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was your flower girl at the wedding. She was.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: And she is.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: you know, a total delight, truly genuine. And we know
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: now that authenticity is where it's at, whether you're an influencer,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: a reality star, or a talk show host. And I
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: think that, you know, it started when you guys started.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: It was, you were a COVID show. Yeah.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Do you know the whole story of that? Do you
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: know how it started? You want me to tell you? Yeah, tell.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: So it was COVID. It was September, 2020. My mom
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: had just passed away, remember, back in May. Um, I
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: had met Wellington right before the pandemic. And then we
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: were like, okay, bye. I got like, you know, like
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: six months. I was like on LA, he was in
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: New York and we were like, it's like zoom dating.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: And so eventually, uh, in that, in September, I was like,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go to New York. Um, I didn't
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: know Drew anything and I knew her producer. So I,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: he was my friend, Chris. I had Chris Miller. He's
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: now the tonight show, uh, EP showrunner. And I was like,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: do you want to get a drink when I'm in
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: New York?
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: And so he was, he said, oh my God. Drew
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: just started the show and she's alone in the studio.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: There was no audience.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Remember back then?
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even mass audience, no audience. And she would
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: like talk to celebrities on a computer, right?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: It just was tough.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: And she was live. And he said, would you come
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: in and do the news with her one day? And
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, he said, if I can get you
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: cleared through all the COVID things you have to do,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: let me. So I did. He got me cleared and
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I went and did her show once. And it was like,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you know, she was a little lost in that studio
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and I was lost in life because I was cracked
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: open after my mom. And it was like two people
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: who needed somebody. I can't explain anything else, but right
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: away it was like brother, sister, right away. And they
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: asked me to come back the next day and the
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: next day. And I never went home until the end
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: of that season. And then I've been there ever since.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: It was one of those things that maybe my mom
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: did it or something, but There's something magical about the
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: connection and the timing. And I don't know what would
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: have happened with Wellington if we would have been married
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: so soon if I hadn't moved to New York then
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and all of this had happened, you know?
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Right. Everything always works out the way it's supposed to be. Now,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's funny because you started out and it
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: was COVID and you couldn't touch anyone. But then she
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: really popped off. Because people, the viral videos of how
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: she likes to really get in the lap, literally, of
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: her guests.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: And, you know, she has a great sense of humor
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: around it, but that is her and she doesn't stop that.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: And now it's continued. It's just her vibe. Was there
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: ever a time.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you're going to ask. Was there
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: ever a time when, like, the notes came in, the
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: focus groups don't do that?
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Or you thought, or yeah, was there ever any discussion
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: about it or even... a guest that was like, I
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: love Drew, but that would make me uncomfortable to talk
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: that close or everyone just wants her, her perfect little
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: cute face at like, you know, that close.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I can't speak to what everybody wants. You know, I
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: think if like, I don't know that there's ever been
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: a guest who didn't want to be up close. I
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: think people are kind of like, yeah, I mean, she's her,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: you want to be, I mean, it's authentic. And it's
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: also like, you don't get to see someone that famous
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: that often. You know what I mean?
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Um, But I will say like it wasn't lost on
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: everyone when like at first it was being kind of
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: made fun of that she was up close and personal
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: with everybody. But to like the power of her and honestly,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Jason Kurtz, who does our show, is it was like,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: just lean into who you are. You have to be
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: who you are, especially on daytime television. That, that is
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: not about a set up punchline daytime television. Daytime television
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: is about opening your soul up. I know that that
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: sounds cheesy, but really it's about like, this is who
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I am warts and all. And so they just like
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: dug in and now it's become like, What could have
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: been a like cringy thing is just an identifiable mark
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: of how she does this job. And I think that's
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: another reason why it's working. That's a lesson for all
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: of us. Just like just lean into who the fuck
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: you are. Just be you. And like people don't like it.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: They can change channel.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Yes. And obviously it's, it's working out perfectly. It's working
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: for you too.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Look at you. I can, you know how proud I
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: am of you. I watch, you know, I love you
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and I'm your friend, but like, just as like, uh,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: somebody who like sees what you're doing. I'm so proud
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: of you because you have done that too. You really are.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: And I think everybody listens to this and watches you
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: knows that. And I know how hard that is to
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: do to make that choice just to be all in
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: on yourself. And, uh, I just want to toot your tooter.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: And thank you. I love that.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: It's true, Heather.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: We did a talk show pilot together.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: We did. And I love that show, by the way.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I feel like it could have been better, but I
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: was doing Chelsea Lee at the same time. It was
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: kind of a, it was fine. It was called Love
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: It or Hate It.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Love or hate? Love it or hate it?
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I thought it was love or, yeah, maybe it was
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: love or hate. And it was like hot topics. Do
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: you love it? Do you hate it? Let's debate it.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: But if you think about it, that really can't go
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: on forever.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Well, it could have. It could have.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I guess you could always love it or hate it.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I could have like a segment on Jesus could call
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: it or hate it. But then after that.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: But I come on and do it with you and
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: we just do it here instead of on E because
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: we would get more people to see it.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: All right. Let's just do a love it or hate
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: it right now. I'm just going to do it.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Do you love it? And
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: now they're doing ones in like the OC. Do you
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: like these girls dancing around in their messiness? Or do
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: you hate it?
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I've never seen it. So clearly I hate it. Not
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: making its way to me in my algorithm.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Is it worth it? There is so much out there
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm a little busy with 90 Day, I have
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: to tell you. There's a lot of episodes and I'm
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: not cheating on 90 Day. Is it worth it?
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: You only have so much time in your life. Exactly.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I'm a human. Right.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Met Ball. Have you ever gone to the Met Ball
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: or been invited?
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I have been outside the Met Ball. I covered it
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: two years ago. And I used the porta potty. And no,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: but I've never been inside. But I will say Anna Wintour,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: in the middle of a sentence, she was talking. She
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: stopped what she was saying and looked at me and said,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I love your jacket. Come on.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: It was pretty great.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: No cameras rolling at the time. All right, I want
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: to ask you also, you've had quite the relationship with
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: your body changing. So when we first saw you, you
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: were a jolly kind of heavyset type young guy. And
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: then you lost weight, and then you maybe gained a
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: little bit back. But you've now been a slim jim.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: A stylish dude for, I don't know, probably like, what,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: like seven years where you've been this size and maintained it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: And so great with your recipes and using, you know,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: the healthy ways of, you know, healthier food and exercise
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: and everything. How do you feel about now, you know,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: there are so many people now are having such great success.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: With getting the jumpstart with the GLP-1s and.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: All of that.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I just want to kind of hear your opinion of
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: it and what you think is going on with that
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: in Hollywood. And are some people taking it too far? Okay.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Well, okay. I have so many thoughts that I've never
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: ever really talked about. No one's ever asked me about this.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: This is what's great about you, Heather, is you go there.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go there. So my health journey started
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: in 2020 after my mom died. And I was like,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the biggest gift I could give her is to get
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: my own shit together. so I can stick around on
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: this planet for as long as possible. So that was
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: my why. And I think you have to find your
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: why and then you figure out the how. So my
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: why was that. My how was like, I got to
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: start cooking for myself. That was my recipes. Now, listen,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: this is back in 2020. You had heard maybe of Ozempic,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't something that was available, right? I wish
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I would have done Ozempic. And people use it as
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: a shame. Like whenever I'll post a picture and people
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: will be like, oh, Zempic Queen. And I'm like, you're
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: trying to shame. One, I did it. But like two,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: had I, I would be seeing it from the rooftops.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Like there should be absolutely no shame in this. Listen,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: it is hard enough to figure out how to be
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: a healthy grownup. You know what I'm saying? I'm not
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: alone in that. It is difficult. especially when you have
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: an unhealthy relationship with food and something that helps you
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: with that, that they say with the studies doesn't hurt you. Knock, knock, knock.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Hopefully that's true that there's no terrible side effects 20
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: years down the line, but we should not be shaming people.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: If there is, if you have a headache, you take
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: a Tylenol. Like things make things easier. If you have cancer,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: you do chemo for a reason. This is a, an
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: issue that people have. I know I had it. Um,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: and so, uh, I hate that people shame people that
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: use it. And I especially hate that people try to
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: use it to shame me when I don't even do it.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Do you feel that, you know, that once you changed
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: to be fit and thin, gorgeous model that you are. Yes.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: No longer a plus size model. Did anybody be like,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: you're not as funny now? You know, that always happens
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: with someone who is funny and a little bit fuller.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: People seem to think that is what is one of
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: the things that makes them funny. And then they get
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: thin and they're like, you're not as funny. You know, it's, uh,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: maybe people thought that, I don't know.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know. People thought that maybe they did, but
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you, it does take away, uh, your own punchline.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: You know, I always, there were certain things I could
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: always like, if I didn't have an, uh, an observational punchline,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: there was always like, oh, through the gay lens or
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: through the fat lens.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: And they're, you know, self deprecating thing. So when you
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: take that away, you are taking away, um, a weapon,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: you know, like a comedic weapon. Um, and so it
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: was funny as like your body changes, but your mind,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: there's a delay before your mind catches up with where
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: your body is. And I would be like, you know,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: writing jokes or even in the moment saying jokes from
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: that point of view. And the audience was not laughing
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: or responding. I was like, Oh my God, Ross, you
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: need to catch up with, with who you are now. Um,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: And so that was the bigger shift that I felt.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Whether people think I'm funny or not, I don't. One,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I can't control. And two, what are you going to do?
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then how do you feel about, you know,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: now being a silver fox? Like going full natural gray?
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I never did anything other than let it just be
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: what it was, you know? And so I don't know.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: I always thought it was kind of gray. Is it
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: jarringly gray now?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Should I dye?
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I just feel... No, I think it looks good. And
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I don't think you should start that. I think it's
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: really hard for guys with short hair to dye it.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Thank you. And I don't think you should. Are you
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: calling me a hero? No, but I mean, Peter's gone
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: full white. And there was a time where, you know,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: there was a little whatever, the gray men in a
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: box or whatever it's called. Sure. What is that called?
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Just for men. Gray men in a box.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then one day it was just like, oh,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: fuck it. And it's just like. It is great. And
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: then I saw the episode where they brought in the
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: famous hairdresser and Valerie Bertinelli and Drew.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: So they put gray wigs on them.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: And, I mean, I think when the hair is great
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: hair and your makeup is done, it is a cool look.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: The natural gray. For some people, I think it can
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: really work.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: For some people.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think you should do whatever you want to do. Period.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Blanket statement.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I will tell you, going gray wasn't like a decision
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: that I made. I just am kind of too lazy.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: And I guess I didn't realize until recently that it's
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: this gray. Because people start– whenever I would see someone
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: like you who I hadn't seen in a while, people
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: go like, love your hair. And for a while, like
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: until– I mean like really recently, like weeks ago, I
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: thought like, oh, they noticed that I kind of grew
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: it out a little because it's longer on the top.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize they were saying that because it has
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: gotten Santa white. Like you just don't see your own
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Santa coming out. It never– I didn't see it. And
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: then when you say it and I look, I'm like, oh,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I guess so. But anyway, that's my point of view.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Now– Drew looks great. Val looked great with gray hair.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: It'd be hard to look bad. But I will say, like,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: it is much harder for women because, like, let's say,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: for example, you or Jennifer Aniston all of a sudden
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: were like, I'm going to do it. I'm going to
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: go gray. Like, when does Jennifer Aniston go gray? Does
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: she just, like, ever? Or does she just come out
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: one day? Or she'd start, you know, that when, you know,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: they have, like, the skunk stripe and they just let
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: it grow and it's like a half and a half
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: and you just do it and you figure it out.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Will she ever go gray? Will you ever go gray?
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know, because you know your really good friend,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Nikki Boyer. she rocked it, you know, creator of Dying
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: for Sex.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Peabody award winner for Dying for Sex.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, amazing.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Jenny Slate played her in them. I am so proud
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: of Nikki Boyer. Thank you. She's in Italy right now
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: on vacation, a well-deserved vacation. She's amazing. And yes, she
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: did decide to go gray and it was a whole
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: process and Even some of our close friends gave her
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: shit for going gray.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I see. I think I can see it. It looks.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: For me, not there yet. I don't know when I'll
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: be there. But anyway, I think it's a cool thing
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: that's really working for people.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: So much harder for women than men. It's the same
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: thing with weight. No one in Hollywood ever gave me
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: an issue for my weight, ever, ever, ever. And meanwhile,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: I know these women who I was standing with on
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the red carpet were getting pressure. I know it. The
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: gray hair was the same thing. So that's unfair.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and now it's the criticism of, oh, now everyone's
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: too thin. You know, it used to be you're heavy. Then, okay,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: you know, then there's some bitterness of when someone that
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: they admired that was a little fuller figure, they get
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: to a healthy place. And then it's like you've abandoned
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: the cause. And you're like, what cause was that? Like,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: just like, let me just do what's right for me.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: You know, like, again, let me just do what's right
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: for me.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I understand when people get too thin though. I do because,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: and by too thin, I want to do air quotes, right?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Because it also, it is a weird game. You know,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: like you feel like in control when you're at a
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: certain number. You know, I remember I got to like
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: 165 and I was like, this is probably five pounds
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: too thin and this is perfect, right? And then now
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I'm at like 173 because it's like the neighborhood and
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like, Oh, is it gross? Am I gross?
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Am I gross? Because I'm not like 165. So it's like,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I understand where you if you get that low, you
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: think if you get above that at all, you feel
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: like it's more about the scale as opposed to your body,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: you know, and like, I think that's the struggle. Sometimes
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: it's this this like self imposed thing.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: What was the what was the reality show that you
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: did about weight loss?
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: That was a nightmare. This was back in, what, 2004
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: or 5? It was called Celebrity Fit Club. And they
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: asked me to do a bunch. It was like on
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Leno a couple years. I had no contract. I was
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: making like $ 500 every couple months, like nothing. And they
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: called me like, do you want to be on the
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: show where you lose weight? And I was like, absolutely not.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: And they said it pays whatever it paid. And I said,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: what time should I be there? And so I did it.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: And when I showed up, it was like me and Screech, Tiffany,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: the thing, I think we're alone now, right? All these things.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: And when I got there, nobody knew who I was.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: And Tiffany asked me to get her a water because
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: she thought I was a PA. And you know what
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I did?
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Got her a water.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I got her a water.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: And then she's like, wait, why are you getting mic'd
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: up to go do a jumping jack or something?
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Why are you getting jumped up to kayak against a brat? Well, Tiffany,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: because they're paying me to. Anyway, so I like it
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: was the first time I ever lost weight and I
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: just starved myself because they would. You know what a
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: great diet is? Weighing in every week on national television.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: That's a great diet. So I just didn't eat anything
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: and I lost 40 pounds. And the second it was over,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I ordered two. large Domino's thin crust because I was
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: on a diet, pizzas. And I finished them because I
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: was starving. And then the weight plus came on, you know,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: like there was no conversation about my health at all.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: It was about, can you lose more weight than Maureen McCormick?
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. But you won it, right? You won it?
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Of course, Heather.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Of course. How much was it that you lost total?
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Do you remember?
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: 41 pounds. I know exactly.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: 41 in how many days?
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Six weeks or something. I mean, really not good, Heather. Like,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Too fast, unhealthy. I just was like, I guess I
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: won't eat.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: And that was before the controversial show that they just
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: did the doc on where they weigh the people. What
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: was that called? The Biggest Loser. The Biggest Loser, yes.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: That was before Biggest Loser.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Probably the same time. What, 2004? Yeah, 2005? Something like that. Awful, awful, awful, awful.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: But the check cleared everything. And it wasn't even like
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: life changing money. But at the time, it was like
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: what my mother made in a year. I remember.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Because you were and you were young and.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. I was 24 and like just figuring
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: it out. And, you know, this business like, you know,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: you figure it meant I was going to be on
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: TV for a couple of months, you know, and like.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: When you got your own talk show. Yes. Hello, Ross. Hello, Ross.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: It was was it once a week?
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Once a week, Friday nights.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Friday nights and it was under the Chelsea umbrella. You
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: were on like the floor above or below us.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: And, you know, I mean, that must have just been
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: like a major pinch me moment.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: But when you when you find out it's not going
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: to continue. Yeah. What was like the how what was
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: your thought process? Was it was like bigger than bigger
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: and better? Or what was that for you?
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Completely devastated because one like, you know, Regis, remember Regis? Yeah.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: That was the goal, the North Star. And so in
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: a way I thought like, oh, I did it, you know?
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: And we were on for two seasons and then it
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: went away for multiple reasons. You know, like Chelsea was
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: leaving the network for a bunch of reasons and whatever.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: And I remember thinking like, I'm over.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: This is it.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I went to Palm Springs and I painted the cabinets
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: in my kitchen and I painted... like all the walls
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: in the house.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: I just was like, what color? White. Black. No, just kidding.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Black.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: No, white, like white, bright white. And I just, my
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: friend Taya came over and she's like, what are you okay?
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: And I just was like, I'm painting this wall today.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Like I just went crazy. Didn't Taya also work on
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: the show?
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: She was my best friend. Taya is still my best
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: friend from elementary school, high school. We wrote Chelsea Lately,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: my books together and So it was just, she's a
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: brilliant writer, producer.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: She's just brilliant. And so I just- So that's hard too,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: that you like have, you hired some friends. Oh, all
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: of my college roommate was a producer on it. Tonight
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Show people came over on staff because that was ending
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: and stuff. And there were just, you know, that's the
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: burden you feel too when you lead a team like
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: that is like, not only is your dream dying, but
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: like all these people are now out of work. Yeah. Yeah.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: And so- I worried, um, and I put a bunch
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: of weight on and I just worried, like, would I
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: ever work again? Or did I ever, did I want to,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: did I want to ever have something like that again,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: that I could lose again? It's almost like when you,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: when someone breaks your heart, you know, do I want
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: to get in a relationship again? Um, and I took
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: a long time and it wasn't to Hollywood Today Live.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: You remember there was this show that I did that
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: you were on. Um, it wasn't until that, that I thought, oh, I, I,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I can still do this.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Um, yeah.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: But it was, it was a real, I should have
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: gone to therapy. I didn't, but I should have.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: And I remember like, yeah, that is really hard. And
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: then we had fun on that Hollywood Today Live and, uh,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Garcelle was on it.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: It was me and Garcelle Bavay and, uh, Allie Landry,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Tanner Thomason, Amanda Salas, who's on Good Day LA. Um,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Kristen Brockman, uh, Yeah, it was a great show. Anyway,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I love doing that. And then, you know, and then
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I did that for a couple years. And then, you know,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: but the thing is, Heather, you know, you kind of
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: have to count on, like, bank on yourself that you'll
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: figure it out.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: So now getting to your latest venture with the 90-Day
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Single Life Reunion.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: The tell-all.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: The tell-all. And so tell us, so these... people that
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: are the favorites over the seasons that are no longer
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: with their love, they go explore single life?
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: So what happens is, you know, we watch a lot
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: of people on 90 Day Fiancé, whether it's the OG
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: show or the other way, we see people fall in
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: love and try to make a relationship work. Now, what
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: happens is we really care for these people. I get
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: invested in them. Now, the relationship doesn't always or usually
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: work out in the long run, okay? But some of
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: the people who become fan favorites that we really root for,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: they get put on– if they choose to, they get
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: put on The Single Life where we can see them
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: afterwards what happens when they're back out there dating. And
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: so there are major fan favorites on. There's Pedro. There's Sophie.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: There's Colt. Colt is my favorite. Colt is– oh, my God.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: What happened to his– X.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Well, there were a few. There's been a bunch.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: The brunette girl that got a lot of plastic surgery.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: You're going to have to be more specific. Okay. So anyway,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: when we find him, we had just seen him in
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Hunt for Love, which is this other spinoff. He and
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Courtney have this connection. So when we see them at
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, he and Courtney are dating. Now,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Courtney is another fan favorite. And they're an odd match.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: And he had a major injury. He's been living in
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: her house and taking care of him. They can't have sex.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: And then it turns out he's been cheating on her.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: This is what played out over the season with this
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: woman from Brazil named Deanna on text. So they sort
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: of break up and she kicks him out of, she's
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: living with her parents in a retirement center, kicks him out.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: And then he has to get surgery. And so fast
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: forward a couple months, you see him living with this.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Wait, hold on. She lives with her parents. Mm-hmm.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: And had Colt living with them.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: In a retirement community in Florida. Is that even allowed?
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Heather, what am I? On the HOA? I don't know.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Speak to your local representative. I can't be bothered with that.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: So, okay. Okay.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: He's living with her and her parents in a retirement home.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. He's been, wait, there's more. He, this
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: is what, this is what the played out during the season.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: She kicks him out because you're cheating on me. Like
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: you don't have like, anyway.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: You don't have to piss it.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: He goes and lives with the girl that he was
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: cheating on her with in Brazil for a bit, but
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: then he has to come back to the States to
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: get a surgery. So we fast forward a couple of months.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: We see him in a house and he walks out
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: and like greets his roommate and who is this 66
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: year old man named Phil. Now it turns out that
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Phil is Courtney's new boyfriend. Uh, he lives in the
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: same retirement center as her parents. Okay. And Phil and
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Colt is now living with them. Uh, we just saw
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: recently that, um, Well, I don't know if that I
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: can ruin anything, but they are all going to be
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: on the tell-all, okay? So I just have to tell you,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: it's so good. It's so juicy. There's so much to
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: talk about, and that's just one storyline. Colt has all
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: these other connections with all the other people that are
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: going to be there. I really did my research. I
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: really took this seriously, Heather, because you know I love
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: this show, and I wanted to do a good job
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: for the fans. I wanted to give them a tell-all
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: that delivered– accountability and answers and drama and twists and
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: turns and surprises. And I have to tell you, as
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: a fan, I got everything I wanted, including a walk-off.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Oh, I love it. I mean,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: you have to have a walk-off. So I got so upset.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: And the reason they got so upset is something that
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know was coming.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: It's a real shocker.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, good.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I can see it now. Did you
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: have a hard time deciding what snazzy suit to wear?
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: There were lots of opinions. There were lots of opinions.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I knew what I was going to wear.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: I knew it.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: And it just took a second for everyone to arrive there.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: But I would have worn, I didn't care what I wore.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I truly, Heather, if they said wear Mrs. Roper's muumuu,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: I would have been like, great, let's go. Just put
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: me in there. I really didn't care. But I loved
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: this final suit. It's a Brooks Brothers rich, almost cobalt
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: blue with a blue and white striped tie. It's the
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: perfect thing to wear. And I really hope you watch
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: this tell-all because.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: I think- Oh, I definitely am watching it.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: I think you did a really good job. I really
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: had a lot of fun with it. It airs May
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: 18th and May 25th on TLC. And it's like, I
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: don't know, feel free to watch every episode leading up
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: if you want to, but I also recap a ton.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: So if you haven't watched every episode, you can still
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: watch the tell-all and get everything.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: The living at the retirement community is so fascinating to
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: me because I remember years ago, You said you identified
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: as an active senior.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Active senior citizen to this day. I have a book
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: treatment that I want to turn in called Active Senior Citizen,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: a How-To Guide. I think it is a great idea
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: because I have lived my life that way. I wear
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: a sensible slip-on shoe. I don't have time for laces. Plus,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: it's dangerous. And hip injury is the first. Anyway, so
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I do that. I love a happy hour. I love
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: a sensible bedtime.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: What time do you like to eat dinner?
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's 545 would be kind of the latest. We've
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: been to the restaurant. I've been, you know, those commercials
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: like open, open, open for Mervins or Marshalls or something.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: That's me at the restaurant at 445. When I know
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: they could serve me a martini, I'm there. You may
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: not be open, but the bottle's right there.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: I love an early dinner. I love pre-sunset golden hour.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: We've had dinner at five. I know we have.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, I always, always love the dinners at Five. Now,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: I am sad that you're no longer a resident in
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: the Palm Springs area, but I get why it doesn't
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: make sense. You have a beautiful home on the East Coast.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I have the dream home on the East Coast, I
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: have to say. I love my house here. I never
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: want to leave it. We have an apartment in the city.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I don't even go to the city just for work. But,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I love... I love where I live now,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: but I.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Will tell you- So do you spend the night at
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: the city apartment during the week with Drew?
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to, yes.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: What do you mean you're supposed to?
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to. That was the intention when purchased, but
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: And so how long does it take you to get
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: from the Drew studio to the regular house?
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: 51 minutes. Oh, that's not that bad. So I just
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: And so we're selling the apartment is the point. I
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: love the house, but when I- had the house, you know,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I was in Palm Springs forever, ever. And I kept
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: it for three years when I moved here. And then
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I had been back maybe twice because I just couldn't.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: And I was like, this is such a waste of money.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: I can't. So luckily it appreciated. And I, I earned
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: that money back that I had wasted, you know, not
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: living in it, whatever. But I, I haven't been back
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: to Palm Springs since I drove away after we sold
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: the house because it is my home and it would
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: just hurt my feelings. It would just hurt me too
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: much to be there and not Live there.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: What? That's so stupid.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I know it's stupid, Heather.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: This is what you guys need to do. You need
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: to come and stay at one of your favorite hotels. Okay.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like it's running into an
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: ex that I know I'm going to end up with.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That's how I feel about
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Palm Springs. It hurts too bad to see them.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: You're afraid one screw will be too much and you
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: won't be able to give it up? And you'll be
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: cheating on New York?
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: What I know about Palm Springs is that we're meant
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: to be. And we're just in different places right now.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And I'm afraid if I
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: see Palm Springs, I won't be able to resist Palm Springs.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: You know, I just had dinner with Martin Ballard.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: The best.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: And went to his house.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: The house.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: And he had a party for Modernism Week.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: I saw the pictures.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: And everybody dressed up like from that era.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: I know. I know. And none of that shit is
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: happening where I live now. You know where I live now?
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: You know who I, oh my God, Heather. I live
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: like minutes from Martha Stewart and I see her all
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: the time and we do dinners. I've been to, I
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: had New Year's Eve dinner with Martha Stewart.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: What did she serve? Did she cook?
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Oh no, we went to a restaurant. There were just
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: five of us around the little table. It was, it was,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: it's wild. it's wild and magical and she's, the only
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: reason I'm like hesitating now is because I'm looking up
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: at the, you can see me right now. I'm looking
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: up and thinking to myself like, should I shut up?
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Because I don't want her to find out that I
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: talked about this and have it end.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, should I just shut up right now?
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: I think just saying you had dinner at a restaurant
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: where witnesses were, it's, and you're acting like you slept
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: with her or something.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not, oh my God, she's another one. Is she
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: another woman that I have womanized now as a gay?
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, probably because it's just, you just have a,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: you just have a gift and it's okay. And you know, you're, it's,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: it is what it is. You're, you're loyal to one man.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: You're not loyal to any woman. And it's, it's what
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: you are. It's a, it's a version of being polyamorous
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: in a gay land. It's very, it's very complicated.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: It's weird how much sense you make. It's like, it's
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: really weird.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: From Martha Stewart to me, I mean, it's amazing. Wait, I, okay.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Now I think we need to plan for, I want
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: to be your house guest.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Up here? You have? Yeah.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Would you come stay with us for real? Yeah. Like
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: come to New York and like, what, give me a
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: day in the life if I come and we have
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: like a Saturday. Like fabulous. I'm an early riser too.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Early riser.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: So our house is so, it's like super private. It
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: just trees all around. We're up like on a hill.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: We have a phenomenal pool, like in the rocks where
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: like there's a stream that goes down into the, from
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: like into the hot tub, then into the pool, like beautiful.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: Do you hate your pool? Of course.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: What am I? Neanderthal? My God. Heather, are you okay?
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, then I'll be in all day if it's warm. Okay. Yeah.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Trust me, it's warm. So we would do that. We'd
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: probably wake up. I would make you a frittata. Okay.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: We're not doing crust. It's not a quiche.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: It's a frittata.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Love a frittata.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Okay. Then we would probably do a dip. We just
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: have to like pre-shower. Let's just get in. Like it's
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: nice out. Let's just get in the pool really quickly.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: And then while we're floating, I would like be like,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: what do you want to do today?
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Okay. We're gone. I feel like we then get cute.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: And we do lunch off campus.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Or we don't even need lunch. We just do like
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: a snacky poo and walk around whatever the cute area
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: is that has some shops. Does that exist?
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: We would do lunch. I'm sorry, but I get low
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: blood sugar. We would do lunch.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, good.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: But we would have a cocktail at lunch. And I
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: would tell you, you know where I'm going to bring you, Heather?
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I'm going to bring you to my favorite antique mall.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Done.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Where Lara Spencer has a booth. Okay.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And we'll buy a little something for you.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: We'll get you just a little something, like something not
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: big that you can bring home, but like something like,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: so whenever you look at it, you can be like,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: oh my God, this is from when I visited Ross
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: and Welly in New York.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: So let's get you something. And then I would go like,
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: now let's go back to the pool.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: And I would tell you in the pool, I'd be like,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: what are you in the mood for? Do you want
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: to like invite a couple people over and barbecue or
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: do you want to go somewhere fabulous?
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: No.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: At that point- I want to have fun, dinner party,
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: exciting people. Yeah. Start boozing in the pool late afternoon.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Keep the party rolling. End the party by 8.45.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: Great.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: So I would pick up the red gay phone that
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: calls all the gays, and I would be like, Heather
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: McDonald's here. I need you to come over. I have
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: friends who work in the restaurant industry who bring some
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: steaks maybe. I don't know if they're eating red meat
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: right now, but they would probably be- Down.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: Down. Down.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Um, we would go to the bakery that Blake Lively
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: goes to and we would pick up something great.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Something, something fun.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: And we would, um, then we would barbecue and I'd bring,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: we would have the music out, you know, maybe some
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: edibles if they were there and people wanted to, they
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: could partake.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Um, and then, uh, we probably would like take a
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: nap at some point for like, just like 45 minutes.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Like just, and you can just be on your phone
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: if you want, but like nap. And then, like, let's
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: go out.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: A little alone time. Okay, yeah.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: If you need it.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: And then we'd probably watch something great after everyone went
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: home on the TV and, like, kind of fall asleep
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: a little bit. And then I'll see you in the morning.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: You know what I'd like to do also is watch
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: And Just Like That back.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Would you like to watch my episode, the scene I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: was in?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. What scene were you in?
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Season five, episode two. Or season three episode.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: I was in the scene where Aiden came back. So
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: season two, episode four, I think it is.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: When Mario Cantone comes on the Drew show.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: And then I play myself in the hallway. And you know,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: did I ever tell you the story of how that happened?
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: No, tell me. Okay. So it's a true story.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: I heard that they were going to come and shoot
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: with Drew at the show. And I was like, what day?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: And it was like a Friday. And I'm not there
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: on Fridays. But I went in and I emailed Michael
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Patrick King. And I said, I actually had my, my realtor,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Arlene Cohen, Keller Williams is friends with Michael Patrick King.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: So I said, can you let him know? And she said, Oh,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: email him. So I did and said, Hey, I'm just
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: going to be there. Like, come say hi. And he
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: came in and he was like, Ross. And I'm like, yeah.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: And he goes, I'm going to write you a scene.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: And I was like, you don't have to do that.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: He was like, I know why you're here. And he did.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: And I got to be in it. But it's because
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I showed up and I was like, hello. Hi, remember me?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Hi. I sometimes wake up in the middle of the
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: night and curse myself because I covered and just like
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: that in a hate watching vein.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: It's your responsibility that it's gone?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: It is. I think that Michael Patrick King, Sarah Jessica Parker,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: they were just like, screw these assholes. We're not going
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: to do it anymore. And I wish they didn't listen
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: to me because it was getting better. And I loved
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: every second of it. I loved if it was bad.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: I loved if it was boring. I loved if it
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: was weird. I loved if it didn't make sense. I mean,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: every Thursday we'd watch it. I made my son, my
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: straight son, Drake, watch it. And my other son, Brandon,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: we all loved it. We loved Che Diaz getting a sitcom.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: It was so weird and bizarre. Yeah, it's my fault.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: And I will never forgive myself. If I would have
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: known that ripping on it in a hate-watching way and
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: having other people do the same would have ever contributed
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: to them quitting, I wouldn't have done it. I....
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Want to be a friend to you in times like this.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: But I'm also not going to lie to you.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: It's not not your fault. I do think that, and
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: it's not you alone.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: No, it's not me alone. I feel like I was
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: probably a top 10 person that did it.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure. Yeah. I would just like to, I
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: wish I could go back in a time machine because
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't know it was going to come to an
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: end either.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: I wish I could go in a time machine and say, hey, guys,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: it's like pizza. Like even bad pizza.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Is good. Is good.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: Okay? And we didn't even know what we had when
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: we had it. And I'd like to go roll the tape.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: I never once publicly said anything bad about it.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Publicly.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Okay? And maybe the history books will call me a hero.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: and let them.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, the day the news broke that this is it.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: You knew you did it. You knew it was your
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: fault right away, right?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: I just was like, you know, I felt like that saying, like,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: and this is why we can't have nice things. Like,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: I felt like the person that, like, broke the vase
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: in the living room for, like, playing around it too closely.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: So do you want to make, like, a a public
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: statement now?
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: My public statement is I loved, and just like that,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: maybe more than Sex and the City. I loved the changes.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: I loved the weirdness. I loved the goofiness. Every episode
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: surprised me. My predictions about where the show would go
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: was wrong. Okay? I didn't I mean, I predicted some
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: things when I thought there was going to be a
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Sex and the City 3, but instead it was a
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: series that Miranda would be gay or have a gay relationship,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: but not everything. And then I kept wanting to rewrite
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: it and be part of it, and then never did
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: I think that it would be ripped from under me.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: I thought for sure I'd get two more seasons out
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Well, we should have.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: We should have. We should have.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: We should have gotten two more seasons out of it.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you finally said something. I feel like it
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: was causing a rift between us.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: It's awful. That's why I'm saying, like, that's why when
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: we have our sleepover... I want to watch it. I
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: want to watch it. I want to watch the Chain
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Diaz episodes of when she was doing the stand-up concert
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: and all of that. And do you remember the episode
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: where she had to do the cameos? No, I honestly don't.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: Miranda spends the night. Miranda spends the night. And she
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: wakes up to her, like, under the bed being like, hey,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: it's Che Diaz. I know it's your birthday tonight. And
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: she's like, ah! And we were just dying. Like, this
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: stuff that they would do was so funny and perfect.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, shit. It was funny and perfect and hilarious. And
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: you said something earlier, and you were right. It was
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: getting better.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: It was. Right? And then Aiden was gone.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: And that guy, the downstairs neighbor, that was interesting. The writer. Right?
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: There was just places for it to go.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I know. You know, but that's what happens. You
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: can't expect something to come back with some people that
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: are that rich, that successful. They don't need the show.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: There is a risk that they will open their phone,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: read the hate, and quit. Yeah.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: And well, we learned that lesson, didn't we, Heather? Yeah,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: we did. So what happens? What if it comes back again,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: 10 years and it comes back? Are we just going
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: to be grateful for what?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. I will. I will be. I will
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: only praise it. I will go to anything. The premiere.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: I will treat it differently. If I want to rip
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: on it, I'll call my sister or you. I won't
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: publicly do anything because I need it to stay.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Can I say something slightly connected but different? I just
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: went to the movie theater yesterday. Yesterday. And saw Deborah
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Wars Prada 2.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: How was it? I haven't seen it yet.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: So in the same vein of like a beloved thing,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: like I, and maybe it's because of what happened with
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Sex and the City, I was prepared to just be grateful.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Just grateful. I loved it so much.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, good.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: I thought it was sensational. Oh, good. A perfect movie,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: like good on its own and a great, great, great,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: great addition to that, except for one thing. There's a
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: scene where they cut the- and i'm not going to
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: ruin anything everyone but they cut the budget at the
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: magazine and miranda has to fly to italy for a
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: fashion thing and they show her walking through first business
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: and sitting in coach and i'm telling you right now
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Even if they cut the budget, she would have paid
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: for her own first class ticket. Hello.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: That was the one thing that took me out of it.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: But that's why I give it an A, not an
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: A plus because of that. It was so sensational, I thought.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: So one snafu, but the rest. Okay. I totally agree
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: with that. I don't like, and I get hung up
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: on things like that, which is what got me critical.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely going to go see that. Did you see
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: the Michael Jackson movie?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: No. No. They cut my part.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: You were in it?
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding. I can't even imagine. No, I was Liberace. No,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: it was, I haven't seen it. I don't know. I
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: don't know. It seems a little, I'm speaking about something.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you why I don't, I have no interest
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: in seeing it. Now I may see it and love
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: it because I have no principles.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: So let me just put that out there that I
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: may change my mind here. It just seems a little
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: controlled by the family for me. So it kind of
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: seems like not real life version of a biopic about
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: the real human being. It seems like a sanitized, curated version.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess there's no mention of anything, of any
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: accusations of him with the young children, which I can
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: understand not to do that. But I thought you could
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: do it and you could have made it part of
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: his life, but you also could have just shown the
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: perspective of what he said the whole time, that he
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: was innocent and that it was these parents that were
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: doing this and there was a connection, whatever. But I
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: think they just wanted to be about the music and
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: the fun and all that. Because the goal of the
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: family is that the music always remains popular and therefore
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: the musicals and things like that can continue. Did you
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: know that they never mentioned Janet Jackson at all in
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: the movie?
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently she declined to.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Sign off?
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: To sign off on it, apparently.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: So she would have had to have someone... Because I
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: feel like That's interesting because I think if you're a
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: public figure, you know, if someone was going to do
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: the movie of Chelsea Lately, which they will in a
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: few years.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say when they do.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: And some young guy plays Ross Matthews.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: You're not going to have to sign off on that.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: You're going to wake up one day and see that
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: they cast someone that is either better looking than you
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: ever were or not as cute as you.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: They would go, so not cute.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: You know, it'd be like, he has no pizzazz. You
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like they would just get some
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Pillsbury Doughboy with no personality to play me. I would
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: need to sign off. I would need to see. I
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: would hold auditions.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: But that's only if you can do that. That's only
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: if you can be allowed to do that and you'd
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: have to be a part of it. I'm just saying,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: they don't have to tell you. When there's movies done about,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: you know, things that happen in history or movies or
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: crimes or whatever they don't have to but I guess
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: something with.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: This because the family they were like she was like
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: now I'm doing fan fiction but she was probably like
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: I don't even want my name in it or something
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: you know because when they.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Did the Jackson 5 like when they did that movie
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: where Angela Bassett played the mother and it was like
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: a made for TV movie mini series you know and
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: it was about When all the kids were little and stuff,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: they had every kid represented.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they did. And it was not good. It was
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: about the dad being abusive, a cheater.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. When they make the Chelsea Lately movie, who do
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: you want to play you? I need two options.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Honestly, like, she doesn't look like me,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: but Megan Stalter from Hacks.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: She's so funny that.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: She is so funny.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: And she's like, you know, in five years would be
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: like the right age of me back then or so.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: I'm just thinking of someone who's funny. I mean, I'd
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: also go with like a no name that, that just,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: it would just have to, it doesn't have to be
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: the look so much as the personality, someone that could
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: play it off well.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: But she's got to be like, and this is a compliment,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: she's got to be ambitious too. You know what I mean?
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: She's got to be like smart and not just funny.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: She's got to like be like, you know, like a
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: boss a little bit.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: Right. I mean, it could be, God, you know what?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: We could probably just sadly have AI do the whole
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: thing for us right now.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. Give me five minutes and I'll make
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: the movie. Hey, because I pay for premium. Give me
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: one second.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Give me one second. Younger Heather McDonald, younger Ross Matthew.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: Put him on a panel with Chelsea. No, it's. I
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: saw Chelsea last night at the at the after party
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: for Kevin Hart.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: How was it?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: It was fun. She was great. I've just seen her
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: a few times.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: She looked so beautiful.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: In the last couple of years. Yeah. Her outfit was
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: really good. And she did a great job. So, you know,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: it was, we had a few minutes of hugging and like,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: how's everything going? I told her, you know, I thought
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: it was good. I said, did you get mad? Were you,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: were anything upsetting that they were saying to you? Or
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: were you just able to play that off perfectly? Because
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: it's just so harsh on everyone. And she was like, no,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: I don't fucking care. I'm drunk and having fun. Like
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: she was just great. Yeah. So it was all it
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: was all good. But I think, yeah, I thought it
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: was really good. Yeah. So that would be.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: I like that you guys are good.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw her a couple of
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: years ago at a restaurant when I was celebrating my birthday.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: And so that we were good then. And it's like.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: It was, it was great. I know you guys had
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: like a fun dinner. Yeah.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: We've, we've actually seen each other more since I lived
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: in New York than when I lived in LA.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, good. So when she makes a stop there, she
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: reaches out.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: She's good at that. You know, reaching out, like I'm
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: going to be here. I'm going to be in town
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: and do this. And, and I really, yeah, I'm really
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: grateful to have that kind of relationship with you, but
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: I have, don't you feel like I have that with
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: everybody that was on the round table?
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there were a few writers that wrote with her
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: that I worked with at Chelsea that were at the party, too.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, good.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: And lovely to see them. And, you know, I mean,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: the show's been off for almost 12 years.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: That's wild. Wild.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: It's really wild when, like, you know, like I did
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: my live show for the Netflix is a joke, live
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: Juicy Scoop on Saturday night. And it was at the
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Avalon Theater. And these two young girls were setting up
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: the stage and everything. and I just was, like, talking
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: to them, you know. And then the girl's like, no,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: I know who you are. I read your book. She's like,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: was like a stage person, stagehand. And I'm like, she's like, yeah,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: I used to watch it when I was younger, and
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: I read your book. And I was like, really? Like,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: I just, sometimes you just sort of forget, and then
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: you realize, like, how long ago that was. And so,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: but it's really fun, and that's why it was fun that...
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: you know, that Chelsea and Kevin Hart have remained friends
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: that whole time and as she has with you. And, um,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: so it was all, it was all, it was great.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: It was really, it was a fun, I'm glad I
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: went to the party.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you went to, you know, and I am
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: glad that we're all still so close. I just talked
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: to Josh Wolf on the phone two days ago.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, when I was in Vegas, I was like,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: any chance you guys can get dinner, but he was
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: out of town. So when he comes to LA, he
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: does juicy scoop and, I love that his son works
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: with him on the road and yeah, it's like, it's so,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: it's so good.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: I'm really proud of us. We're growing up, Heather. We
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: are growing up, you know, isn't that weird?
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: I look at you.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck? What is happening? But I
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: also am like, just so really grateful to like, you know,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: it's like I told you about my mom. I want
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: to stick around for as long as possible. I feel
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: like I'm holding up my end of the bargain or
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: at least trying to, you know.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: And I'm so excited. So tell everybody when they can
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: watch your debut as the reunion host of the tell-all
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: of 90 Day Single Life.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: It's May 18th and May 25th, so this coming Monday.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: It's a two-parter.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: It's a two-parter.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Um, and I really, you know, I don't make it
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: about myself. I really make it about them. Uh, I
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: try to do it with heart, but firm, you know
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: how I am. And, uh, as a lover, uh, and
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: I really, I really think the fans are going to be, uh,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: excited about this because I, I took it seriously and
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: I had so much fun doing it. So there are
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of 90 day fiance viewers out there. Hello,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: I'm Ross. I'm one of you. And this is really
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: sort of a culmination of a dream come true. You know,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: I get infatuated with things. And then I like to,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: like I say, crawl into the TV and get into
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: the thing that I'm really obsessed with. This is my
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: favorite example of doing that. So I hope everybody loves it.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. This was so much fun.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: We covered a lot. And I loved the ketchup. And
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: I will be in touch about planning our weekend for real.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: I love you for real. You know I do.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: I love you for real. Okay. Love it.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Love you.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: Thanks.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Bye, everybody.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: Bye.
• 1:18:41
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• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: My daughter is so organized, already planning Christmas gifts from.
• 1:18:47
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• 1:18:50
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• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: the tree I'm an early bird buying one present a
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: week from now till Christmas which makes budgeting less stressful
• 1:18:58
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• 1:19:02
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• 1:19:06
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