Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Erica Campbell Talks New Film 'Thou Shall Not Commit Adultery', Mary Mary Reunion Plans, 25 Years of Marriage + More
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Every day up the Breakfast Club. You don't finish for
- 0:05Speaker 1: y'all done morning.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Everybody is DJ en Vy, just Hilarius, Charlamagne to God.
- 0:12Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club Law and the roasters here
- 0:14Speaker 2: as well. We got a special guest.
- 0:16Speaker 1: In the building, but we got we have Erica Campbell. Welcome,
- 0:18Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, you feeling. I'm good.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Thou shalt not commit adult treat on lifetime?
- 0:26Speaker 1: Oh good.
- 0:27Speaker 2: You were in the church playing with these people's heart
- 0:29Speaker 2: and cheating in the background.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Okay, maybe trying. I'm ready.
- 0:36Speaker 3: I'm ready for you that you're trying to figure out
- 0:38Speaker 3: yet you know what it is?
- 0:40Speaker 1: It is.
- 0:41Speaker 3: It's it's my character had a need and she was
- 0:45Speaker 3: just meeting it in an illegitimate way.
- 0:47Speaker 1: I think sin causes us to meet a legitimate need illegitimately.
- 0:52Speaker 3: She needed attention from her husband, and you know, the
- 0:54Speaker 3: business was working, the brand was working, but the connection,
- 0:57Speaker 3: the care, the tenderness was not there.
- 1:00Speaker 2: So so so so break down for people that haven't
- 1:02Speaker 2: seen it as yet.
- 1:03Speaker 1: So so, Cassie is this faith influence Her name is Cassie.
- 1:09Speaker 2: I just just all connected.
- 1:12Speaker 1: But Cassie Davies is this faith influencer.
- 1:15Speaker 3: And she's you know, moving up the you know, her
- 1:18Speaker 3: status is growing, and she has Jasmine Guy who plays
- 1:22Speaker 3: her mentor, and it's just kind of helping her get there.
- 1:25Speaker 3: But in the meantime, she just really wants some more
- 1:27Speaker 3: attention from her husband, and her.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Husband literally treats her like a product.
- 1:30Speaker 3: So you know, he hires security to keep her safe
- 1:33Speaker 3: because there's threats coming. Because it is a thriller. You
- 1:35Speaker 3: don't know who's trying to kill her the whole movie.
- 1:37Speaker 3: And yeah, they just get they get too close and
- 1:40Speaker 3: go too far and she tries to cover it up.
- 1:42Speaker 2: That is crazy and all of that because who else
- 1:45Speaker 2: hired somebody to work with Cassie And then the right.
- 1:52Speaker 3: This is a faith based film. This has nothing to do.
- 1:55Speaker 1: With the free costs to say that it's connection to me.
- 2:05Speaker 3: But I think people should understand the church is not
- 2:08Speaker 3: this abstract who you think go to the church? Regular
- 2:11Speaker 3: people in the world with the same need, same desires.
- 2:14Speaker 3: It's just a matter of am I trying my best
- 2:16Speaker 3: to let God leave my life. That's a day to
- 2:18Speaker 3: day process, and I think God wakes us up every morning,
- 2:21Speaker 3: and every morning we get an opportunity to do the
- 2:23Speaker 3: right thing or the wrong thing, and you will live
- 2:25Speaker 3: or die by your choices and consequences.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Life is not random.
- 2:29Speaker 3: The life you live is closely related to you know,
- 2:32Speaker 3: your choices and the people around you. And so when
- 2:34Speaker 3: you look at it that way, you can be responsible
- 2:36Speaker 3: and make the changes that you need, or just blame everybody.
- 2:39Speaker 1: I wouldn't be this, I wouldn't it did as if you.
- 2:41Speaker 3: Know now and the church folk get a hold of this,
- 2:46Speaker 3: what do you anticipate the biggest response to be from
- 2:49Speaker 3: the church. The church and the religious people are two
- 2:51Speaker 3: different groups. The church people will get it, they'll understand,
- 2:53Speaker 3: they'll know. The religious people will you know, you shouldn't
- 2:56Speaker 3: be doing that, And oh my god, you still get
- 2:58Speaker 3: that now you can't be an actress? Yes, I still
- 3:02Speaker 3: get it. It comes with the territory. So I'm blessed,
- 3:04Speaker 3: and I know I'm blessed. But when you're blessed, you're
- 3:06Speaker 3: at a different level. So there are more eyes on me.
- 3:08Speaker 3: So the eyes that validate and celebrate are sometimes equal
- 3:12Speaker 3: to the eyes that condemn and judge because they don't understand.
- 3:15Speaker 3: And so that's fine. I'm not supposed to think like
- 3:18Speaker 3: you. You're trying to think like me because God has blessed me,
- 3:21Speaker 3: you know.
- 3:22Speaker 2: But I do understand some of that, right, which you
- 3:24Speaker 2: mean not the actress part, not being an actress, not
- 3:27Speaker 2: doing your job. But I do and just knows because
- 3:30Speaker 2: she lasts every time you talk about it. I do
- 3:33Speaker 2: dislike when somebody from the church preaches something and lives
- 3:37Speaker 2: a total opposite way, because I do think that people
- 3:40Speaker 2: who are from the church into the Bible, into God
- 3:44Speaker 2: more than the average person, because for me, I feel
- 3:47Speaker 2: like they should know better. So when they preach a
- 3:50Speaker 2: certain way and then do something totally opposite, that.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Always can they lead me if they're out here living,
- 3:57Speaker 1: you know?
- 3:58Speaker 3: Aside? You know a lot of a lot of these
- 4:01Speaker 3: preachers are. They don't have the same they're still here.
- 4:06Speaker 3: Like who said, once you serve God, everything is perfect.
- 4:09Speaker 3: You make all good choices. Serving God means every time
- 4:12Speaker 3: I fall, I say, help me get back up and
- 4:13Speaker 3: not do this again. Serving God is I know you
- 4:16Speaker 3: blessed me. Help me to honor those blessings with how
- 4:18Speaker 3: I live. But if I don't, that's why Jesus went
- 4:21Speaker 3: to the cross, because there's no way for.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Any of us to be perfect.
- 4:24Speaker 3: That is the trick I think the enemy uses to
- 4:26Speaker 3: keep people away from faith and away from God because
- 4:29Speaker 3: I don't got myself together. If I could do it
- 4:31Speaker 3: by myself, I would do it by myself, but I can't.
- 4:34Speaker 1: I suck without Jesus.
- 4:35Speaker 3: I'm not here because, oh I figured it out and
- 4:37Speaker 3: got some answers. I'm here because you know better than me.
- 4:40Speaker 3: You created me. You know the beginning from the end.
- 4:42Speaker 3: And so if I trust you, even if I walk
- 4:44Speaker 3: in the wrong door, You're gonna be with me every
- 4:46Speaker 3: other step of the way. Even if I fall, You're
- 4:48Speaker 3: gonna pick me back up. People won't and that's okay.
- 4:51Speaker 3: But if you serve God, it don't matter if this
- 4:54Speaker 3: man or this woman mess up. I'm not ever leaving Jesus,
- 4:57Speaker 3: you know. And so people like to, you know, give
- 4:59Speaker 3: the you know, I'll serve God, but I don't do
- 5:01Speaker 3: church people. How a basketball player gonna be a basketball player,
- 5:04Speaker 3: but he's never around basketball players, you know what I'm saying.
- 5:07Speaker 3: How a rapper gonna be a rapper, But I hang
- 5:08Speaker 3: with all doctors or you know, scientists. And God would
- 5:12Speaker 3: use anybody to lead like anybody use a bum on
- 5:14Speaker 3: the street. He will he will salute all the bums
- 5:17Speaker 3: home like, I'm sorry, he will homeless.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Right, we gotta be careful. I know little he'll even
- 5:29Speaker 1: use one of these.
- 5:31Speaker 3: Listen, David wasn't perfect, Moses wasn't perfect, Abraham wasn't perfect.
- 5:35Speaker 3: Who in the Bible was perfect? Where do we get
- 5:37Speaker 3: that from? He is perfecting us. And in order to
- 5:40Speaker 3: perfect something, you gotta stretch it. It's got to be
- 5:42Speaker 3: in uncomfortable situations in order for me to grow. How
- 5:45Speaker 3: do I know I can conquer something if I never
- 5:47Speaker 3: face it. If I'm afraid to go in a room,
- 5:49Speaker 3: I don't know who I can be in that room? Right,
- 5:51Speaker 3: So I take God with me in that room to
- 5:54Speaker 3: help me process and become and be a light.
- 5:56Speaker 1: We're always supposed to be a light. And who said that?
- 6:00Speaker 1: He always feels good for people? You know? I think
- 6:03Speaker 1: the preacher who has messed up most preachers a different
- 6:05Speaker 1: message than the man that never fail. And we want.
- 6:08Speaker 3: People to never fail. But then why would we need
- 6:11Speaker 3: Jesus if we were never gonna fail? Right, It's always
- 6:13Speaker 3: come back to him, And as I aspire to be
- 6:15Speaker 3: more like him, I choose him more than that.
- 6:18Speaker 1: It's not that I don't see it. I just choose
- 6:20Speaker 1: God more.
- 6:21Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Whether it's my flesh, my desire,
- 6:23Speaker 3: want money, want to whatever, God, I choose you more
- 6:26Speaker 3: than I choose that. And that's what keeps goding me,
- 6:29Speaker 3: not what people are gonna think of what people are
- 6:31Speaker 3: going to say.
- 6:31Speaker 1: God, are you pleased with what I did today?
- 6:34Speaker 3: With how I operated, with how I was moving you know,
- 6:36Speaker 3: through life? And when that is your guide, you can
- 6:39Speaker 3: make a better choice. But if you take your eyes
- 6:41Speaker 3: off Jesus, if you take your eyes off the main
- 6:44Speaker 3: thing people and they can't tell me what to do.
- 6:47Speaker 1: You know, everybody loves it. They can't tell me what
- 6:49Speaker 1: to do. Okay, good luck with that. Were you hesitated
- 6:52Speaker 1: all to take this part? Absolutely? Absolutely?
- 6:55Speaker 2: Why and why were you hesitant? And also what made
- 6:57Speaker 2: you decide.
- 6:58Speaker 3: To do it?
- 6:59Speaker 1: A number of reasons. One, you know, I'm a Jesus girl.
- 7:03Speaker 3: So playing this role gives a different look. But I've
- 7:07Speaker 3: seen this a million times in life, friends, I didn't
- 7:10Speaker 3: had a million conversations with girl.
- 7:13Speaker 1: I'm at this dude, Oh my god, you.
- 7:14Speaker 3: Know, I've seen it a million times, and I understand
- 7:18Speaker 3: how easy it is to fall, And so I wanted
- 7:20Speaker 3: to portray how sometimes the enemy will start in January
- 7:24Speaker 3: to destroy you by December with a small were just
- 7:28Speaker 3: friends with a small He noticed me with a small
- 7:30Speaker 3: And you see it in the film. You see the glances.
- 7:33Speaker 3: You see the shaking my hand and your thumb is
- 7:34Speaker 3: thumb is rubbing my hand a little bit too much.
- 7:36Speaker 1: You see it happen. It's everyday life.
- 7:38Speaker 3: And so to see it as a woman of faith
- 7:41Speaker 3: and be able to, you know, help people see that
- 7:43Speaker 3: you could recover. You don't have to stay there. It
- 7:46Speaker 3: is your choice. I couldn't help. It ain't really a
- 7:49Speaker 3: legitimate excuse. You do what you want to do, what
- 7:51Speaker 3: your flesh tells you. You need to do what your
- 7:53Speaker 3: mind tells you you have to have and so when
- 7:57Speaker 3: you become stronger in your core, it allows you to
- 8:00Speaker 3: make better choices. And I think people will see that
- 8:02Speaker 3: in the film. I think people will talk more. I
- 8:03Speaker 3: think people will be honest. I think some people will
- 8:06Speaker 3: see themselves no matter which character you are, I think
- 8:08Speaker 3: people will be like, let me just going to cut
- 8:10Speaker 3: this thing off because this is headed in the wrong
- 8:12Speaker 3: direction fast.
- 8:13Speaker 1: Did you always have the desire to act? I did
- 8:16Speaker 1: my whole life.
- 8:17Speaker 3: Yeah, my whole life I wanted to, and I thought this, Oh,
- 8:20Speaker 3: don't you get emotional. I thought the opportunity had passed,
- 8:23Speaker 3: you know. I was like, well, maybe it's.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Not for me. You know, once you hit fifty, you'd
- 8:27Speaker 1: be like, okay, you know you look I mean damn, No,
- 8:32Speaker 1: you just said damn. I said anyway. Wow.
- 8:37Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:38Speaker 3: I thought the opportunity was over. And what I realized
- 8:41Speaker 3: is God remembers every dream I had. I will never
- 8:44Speaker 3: forget about you.
- 8:45Speaker 1: He don't forget about it. It's timing. It's when you're
- 8:49Speaker 1: ready for it.
- 8:51Speaker 3: Me as a mature woman, being in this space is
- 8:53Speaker 3: different than twenty or thirty year old Erica. And so, yeah,
- 8:58Speaker 3: when it happened, because they asked me like three different times,
- 9:00Speaker 3: I was like, my schedule won't allow for it.
- 9:01Speaker 1: I can't do it.
- 9:02Speaker 3: They came back again, Okay, we'll change the filming schedule
- 9:05Speaker 3: for you. I was like, okay, something else. I was like,
- 9:07Speaker 3: it's gonna be too much.
- 9:08Speaker 1: I can't do it.
- 9:09Speaker 3: The third time, I was like, oh, okay, you want
- 9:11Speaker 3: me to start in a film.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Yeah, because you were doubting yourself. Some of it was doubt.
- 9:15Speaker 1: I'm not well, you said, it was hesitation.
- 9:20Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You don't have to kiss somebody.
- 9:22Speaker 3: You want somebody got to touch somebody. And so I
- 9:26Speaker 3: talked to my husband about it. He was all the
- 9:28Speaker 3: way on board. He was like, I know you've always
- 9:30Speaker 3: wanted to do this.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Don't be whack. I love, like, don't be whacked, you
- 9:35Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so, yeah, the opportunity came
- 9:38Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, God.
- 9:39Speaker 3: We did the premiere the other night and I just
- 9:42Speaker 3: walked and seen my face on a flyer and it was.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Just like, what's that feelings? Oh, it's so crazy. I'm
- 9:49Speaker 1: so grateful.
- 9:49Speaker 3: I'm just still floating it that the opportunity came and
- 9:52Speaker 3: I was able to to do it. Yeah, because you
- 9:55Speaker 3: thought that time, you know your Yeah. I was like,
- 9:58Speaker 3: it's at the movie mirror, thou shall not come in
- 10:02Speaker 3: adult treat You're the leading star.
- 10:04Speaker 1: You see it. You're there. Your husband is like supporting. Yes,
- 10:09Speaker 1: he scored the field. He scored the film. So he
- 10:11Speaker 1: had to watch all the scenes. Oh no again.
- 10:14Speaker 3: And when I was filming, like on the days when
- 10:16Speaker 3: it would be you know, a little touchy touchy, I
- 10:18Speaker 3: was be like, babe, you good.
- 10:19Speaker 1: He was like, I'm fine. I know you my wife
- 10:21Speaker 1: and you coming back home to me.
- 10:23Speaker 3: I was like, that's yeah, so you know, it was great.
- 10:26Speaker 3: And we just celebrated twenty five.
- 10:29Speaker 1: Years.
- 10:29Speaker 3: I saw the article on people Listen as you should.
- 10:34Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty five years is a big deal.
- 10:36Speaker 3: Quarter of a century to be in love with this man,
- 10:38Speaker 3: to do life with this man. Music in the world
- 10:41Speaker 3: that we've been able to do with with you know,
- 10:43Speaker 3: sometimes our music is changing the world and touching people's lives,
- 10:47Speaker 3: and we like this, you know what I'm saying. But
- 10:50Speaker 3: we stayed and we stuck it out and realized that
- 10:53Speaker 3: we're on the same team, you know, And so I know, yeah.
- 10:57Speaker 1: I want it.
- 10:58Speaker 3: I wanted the world. I wanted I want it people
- 11:00Speaker 3: to see it. I'm not afraid of them saying it.
- 11:02Speaker 3: I know some people are like, oh, if people see it,
- 11:04Speaker 3: they gonna mess up. It's already messed up. If somebody's
- 11:07Speaker 3: eyes on you change the way you feel.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Yeabout Joe And we just me and my wife just
- 11:10Speaker 2: celebrated twenty five Congratulations.
- 11:15Speaker 3: With somebody like, how does that like you talked about?
- 11:19Speaker 3: You realize y'all on the same team. That's a lot
- 11:20Speaker 3: of work.
- 11:21Speaker 1: A lot of y'all just a lot of love years.
- 11:23Speaker 3: Yes, it's a lot of wonderfulness, a lot of laughs
- 11:26Speaker 3: or a lot of fun, legacy, a lot of things
- 11:28Speaker 3: we conquered, a lot of safety, you know.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Yeah, all of that. That's my person, that's my you know.
- 11:37Speaker 1: And you still just light up years.
- 11:40Speaker 3: Later and she is glowing with Yeah, everything you said
- 11:45Speaker 3: that we get, y'all remarrying, recommitting, re, dedicating ourselves to
- 11:51Speaker 3: each other, just saying it out loud in front of
- 11:53Speaker 3: the world that we made it twenty five years and
- 11:55Speaker 3: we have. I kind of filmed it very documentary style,
- 11:58Speaker 3: but what we partnered with was my first wedding was
- 12:01Speaker 3: on the Wedding Story, so we were able to mirror how
- 12:04Speaker 3: Skinny I was on first one and then where we
- 12:07Speaker 3: are now and the words that we said to each
- 12:09Speaker 3: other and the things that we wanted and we're here
- 12:12Speaker 3: and it is a blessing and we don't see that,
- 12:14Speaker 3: you know.
- 12:14Speaker 1: We see the bad, We see the ugly.
- 12:16Speaker 3: We see people speculate and skepticism and not believing in love.
- 12:19Speaker 3: But I believe that love is powerful. Actually had a
- 12:22Speaker 3: song called do you Believe in Love? And the power
- 12:23Speaker 3: that it gives?
- 12:24Speaker 1: It really does.
- 12:25Speaker 3: Make you feel like a superhero when I walk out
- 12:27Speaker 3: in the world knowing that I am loved, without question,
- 12:30Speaker 3: without accomplishment. If I was just Airica singing at church,
- 12:33Speaker 3: I would still be loved, and I just I don't know.
- 12:36Speaker 1: That just fuels me. Yeah, yeah, I want to share
- 12:39Speaker 1: it with as many people as I can.
- 12:40Speaker 3: Now six hundred guests at the renew Yeah. People exclusive
- 12:43Speaker 3: you shot as a documentary, but you were also documenting online,
- 12:46Speaker 3: like you were trying to find your dress at one
- 12:48Speaker 3: point or whatever. And I saw you posted one of
- 12:50Speaker 3: the videos talking about the twenty five years in a celebration.
- 12:52Speaker 3: It was at the same time that your sister Tina
- 12:54Speaker 3: announced her or TMC announced the divorce between her and
- 12:58Speaker 3: her husband, and people were like, well the time it
- 13:00Speaker 3: was off, like they tried to rain on the parade
- 13:02Speaker 3: of bit How was it going through that internally?
- 13:05Speaker 1: I wouldn't think about them people. I know, that's right.
- 13:07Speaker 1: I wouldn't.
- 13:08Speaker 3: I can't explain it to you if you choose to
- 13:10Speaker 3: see somebody celebrate in love and you'd say, hey, love,
- 13:14Speaker 3: be quiet, right because this is happening. What No, And
- 13:17Speaker 3: she wasn't like that, And it was a surprise for
- 13:19Speaker 3: y'all not us. I mean, we didn't know the TMZ
- 13:21Speaker 3: was gonna get it, but yeah, because they had in
- 13:24Speaker 3: the story that TMZ did, the filing said that they
- 13:26Speaker 3: were separated since June twenty twenty four. So when I
- 13:28Speaker 3: read that, I'm like, well, I didn't get them dates,
- 13:30Speaker 3: that's all. It was always funny like when.
- 13:32Speaker 1: You pull the documentary.
- 13:33Speaker 3: So when there's there's an online system, when you pull
- 13:35Speaker 3: the documents and list everything, like where their money's going, like,
- 13:39Speaker 3: you get all the things right.
- 13:41Speaker 2: That's why when they were separated, how many kids?
- 13:44Speaker 3: But that's why some people try to file with like
- 13:46Speaker 3: initials or a lot of celebrities will try and file
- 13:48Speaker 3: like Friday, like after a certain time because they think
- 13:51Speaker 3: outlets aren't watching the online system. But yeah, but when
- 13:54Speaker 3: I saw that day though, I'm like, well, maybe they've
- 13:56Speaker 3: dealt with it, and she comes from TMZ. Actually, I
- 14:00Speaker 3: was like, well, maybe you guys have already kind of
- 14:02Speaker 3: got into a good place with it behind the scenes,
- 14:04Speaker 3: because there was no argument about splitting of homes or nothing.
- 14:07Speaker 3: It seemed very amblicable at that point, even though we've
- 14:09Speaker 3: seen her go through something. So it was that that
- 14:11Speaker 3: y'all were in a good place behind the scenes. No,
- 14:14Speaker 3: not you and your sister, but like the family about
- 14:17Speaker 3: the divorce and just her moving forward, Like she said,
- 14:21Speaker 3: news too.
- 14:22Speaker 1: That's what it means news to us. So they probably
- 14:24Speaker 1: were already fine, but.
- 14:25Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. We all were in a good
- 14:27Speaker 3: place about it.
- 14:27Speaker 1: When it hit for us, it was like, oh my god.
- 14:29Speaker 3: And you know, people were so attached to their marriage
- 14:32Speaker 3: because of y'all show, So I think people were more like,
- 14:35Speaker 3: is she okay? Is she okay? And then boom, now
- 14:37Speaker 3: we're celebrating you at the same time, and we were
- 14:39Speaker 3: like kind of like, oh, where do we go? But
- 14:40Speaker 3: you know what's funny, nobody said why did he fouled?
- 14:43Speaker 3: Knowing that Eric and Warren is you know what I mean?
- 14:46Speaker 3: Everything was why would she know that comes with that
- 14:49Speaker 3: comes with the Like I said that I know who
- 14:52Speaker 3: I am and I know I know how the game
- 14:55Speaker 3: that the enemy tries to play with me. When it
- 14:57Speaker 3: was the great moment, a big moment, I keep my
- 14:59Speaker 3: head on the swivel right because he want to steal
- 15:02Speaker 3: my joy.
- 15:02Speaker 1: My joy is my super.
- 15:03Speaker 3: Because as you pointed out, he filed it wasn't her that, yes,
- 15:07Speaker 3: but people didn't grab that point.
- 15:09Speaker 1: Though, Tina's fine with your sister.
- 15:13Speaker 2: I was wondering, how is it is it easy to
- 15:17Speaker 2: be there for her right during that time because it's
- 15:20Speaker 2: like two different emotions, just like you're celebrating, but your.
- 15:24Speaker 3: Celebrated dresses with you, Yeah, Tina's I don't know what
- 15:29Speaker 3: kind of families and sisters people had, Like this is
- 15:31Speaker 3: an interesting.
- 15:32Speaker 1: I don't think it's okay. I don't I don't think
- 15:34Speaker 1: maybe you only need to book Tina because.
- 15:45Speaker 3: He loved I don't think it's a thing of like
- 15:48Speaker 3: y'all rivalry. I think it's more so like people trying
- 15:51Speaker 3: to figure out, like, like emotionally, was she okay because
- 15:54Speaker 3: we have seen her fight for their marriage for so long.
- 15:57Speaker 3: But you know, I hear what you're saying that we
- 15:58Speaker 3: should book Tina. I got a sis the question when
- 16:01Speaker 3: we get in another marriage album? Now we on Tina
- 16:04Speaker 3: and Erica, do we have another Merrymurry album?
- 16:07Speaker 1: We don't have any.
- 16:09Speaker 3: I've been saying yeah years, yeah, you know, yes, yes,
- 16:14Speaker 3: we said yeah. We don't just started working at all,
- 16:19Speaker 3: or though Warren did say he wanted us to get
- 16:21Speaker 3: in studio. It's a song that we have that I
- 16:24Speaker 3: think is crazy and amazing and we're just gonna kind of,
- 16:26Speaker 3: you know, refresh it just because it's been sitting for
- 16:29Speaker 3: so long.
- 16:29Speaker 1: But it said it's an amazing song. So yes, we
- 16:31Speaker 1: do plan on doing an album and touring and all
- 16:34Speaker 1: of that.
- 16:34Speaker 3: We've been having conversations, but it's all you know, I'm
- 16:37Speaker 3: in the midst of all of this right now.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Do you plan to do more acting, more movies? I hope?
- 16:43Speaker 3: So?
- 16:43Speaker 1: Is it okay? Yeah? I hope so. I hope more
- 16:45Speaker 1: opportunities come and damn I'm open. Yeah, because they sent
- 16:50Speaker 1: us a screen and you you did really good. Thank
- 16:52Speaker 1: you there. That's why I was like, did she always
- 16:54Speaker 1: want to act?
- 16:55Speaker 3: Because yeah, you know sometime sometimes when somebody did all
- 16:58Speaker 3: the Mama Mama plays.
- 17:00Speaker 1: You know, I was into stage plays. I did a
- 17:01Speaker 1: few movies, a few things out there, small parts and
- 17:05Speaker 1: stuff like that.
- 17:05Speaker 3: So but yeah, like the best theatrics are they come
- 17:08Speaker 3: from the church and the gospel. People that can do gospel. Yes, Well,
- 17:11Speaker 3: when you listen to a gospel song, the right one,
- 17:14Speaker 3: think of how many emotions it takes you through when
- 17:16Speaker 3: you're in church and you're watching the past, that you
- 17:18Speaker 3: really are being led by or like you know, a word.
- 17:20Speaker 3: Think of how many emotions like you guys have a
- 17:22Speaker 3: gift of being able to make people feel and go
- 17:25Speaker 3: through things. So I see it like this, if God
- 17:28Speaker 3: is creator, everybody has a God hole in your soul
- 17:31Speaker 3: that only God and the power of his music, the
- 17:34Speaker 3: power of His word can feel. It's like when you
- 17:37Speaker 3: hear a song that touches you that's not random, that
- 17:41Speaker 3: is that is something in your cells and your body
- 17:44Speaker 3: wants to connect with the creator that created you. And
- 17:47Speaker 3: when it happens, it brings transformation, It brings change, It
- 17:52Speaker 3: brings enlightenment. It opens you up to see life in
- 17:55Speaker 3: the world through the eyes that I think God created
- 17:58Speaker 3: us to see it. But we see our pain, we
- 18:01Speaker 3: see our problems, we see the disappointment, and I think
- 18:04Speaker 3: God is always trying to get our attention so we
- 18:06Speaker 3: can rise higher. And I think that's what gospel music
- 18:09Speaker 3: helps us do. What the enemy does is how can
- 18:11Speaker 3: you say that to me you messed up?
- 18:13Speaker 1: Exactly?
- 18:13Speaker 3: I can tell you how God can fire you because
- 18:15Speaker 3: I'm messed up, you know. So I can talk about
- 18:17Speaker 3: the redemption, the grace, the love, the power, the strength,
- 18:19Speaker 3: the wisdom and who he is. But if I keep
- 18:22Speaker 3: you confused, you keep your eye on the wrong person,
- 18:24Speaker 3: and you never realize that that song was for you.
- 18:26Speaker 1: This day, this moment.
- 18:28Speaker 3: I wrote this song a million years ago for you
- 18:30Speaker 3: to hear it today, to help you through whatever you
- 18:32Speaker 3: were going through. You know what I'm saying. God is
- 18:34Speaker 3: always trying to use us, whether you're making somebody laugh
- 18:37Speaker 3: at the time that they were down, or whether you
- 18:39Speaker 3: guys are revealing a story that somebody needed to hear to.
- 18:41Speaker 1: Give them hope. We all have a God assignment, whether
- 18:44Speaker 1: you realize you working for him or not. You know
- 18:46Speaker 1: what I mean?
- 18:46Speaker 2: What's the message you want to You want people to
- 18:48Speaker 2: get out of this this movie?
- 18:50Speaker 1: Be honest, be open, and recognize that it's easy for
- 18:53Speaker 1: everybody to fall, right. What do you do after you fall?
- 18:56Speaker 3: The thing I love about this movie the most is
- 18:58Speaker 3: the Redemption gets honest and vulnerable, and she doesn't try
- 19:02Speaker 3: to tell the truth in a secret way privately.
- 19:04Speaker 1: She's out loud.
- 19:05Speaker 3: I messed up and I shouldn't have and I repent
- 19:08Speaker 3: and I apologize. And when you learn to repent and apologize,
- 19:12Speaker 3: your sin can't hold you hostage, right, And I think
- 19:15Speaker 3: that's why people tell their story like, I don't want
- 19:17Speaker 3: to be in mental anguish because you know what I mean,
- 19:21Speaker 3: I dealt with it in quiet since I don't want
- 19:23Speaker 3: nobody to find out.
- 19:24Speaker 1: So if they find out, so what get free?
- 19:28Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
- 19:28Speaker 1: But pay attention to those small things. Pay attention.
- 19:31Speaker 3: It's a scripture says it's the little foxes that destroy
- 19:33Speaker 3: the vines. Not always an axe, it's not always a fire,
- 19:36Speaker 3: something really small. There's a book that partners with this
- 19:40Speaker 3: called The Silent Leak, written by one of the producers,
- 19:43Speaker 3: doctor Holly Carter, and it's the small things, how the
- 19:46Speaker 3: air just seeps out of your relationship and you can
- 19:48Speaker 3: ignore it and not pay attention. And so I want
- 19:50Speaker 3: people to pay attention to the silent leaks, pay attention
- 19:53Speaker 3: to your relationship, you know, to the things that you
- 19:56Speaker 3: rationalize and make okay. And I want them to laugh
- 19:59Speaker 3: and smile and be in entertained a little bit and
- 20:01Speaker 3: be a little uncomfortable with seeing me in these positions
- 20:04Speaker 3: that they see me.
- 20:05Speaker 2: You know, was there anything that ever in your life
- 20:09Speaker 2: that you had to get off your chest like that
- 20:12Speaker 2: to understand what you had to go through?
- 20:13Speaker 1: Is there anything that was ever holding you back? Yeah,
- 20:17Speaker 1: asking why why did this happen? Why did that happen?
- 20:20Speaker 3: Why? And you get held hostage to the why that
- 20:22Speaker 3: you ain't living because sometimes you find out why and
- 20:25Speaker 3: it still don't make sense, you know what I mean?
- 20:27Speaker 3: Like it's the deception of I need closure and when
- 20:31Speaker 3: they tell you why they did it, and it still
- 20:32Speaker 3: don't make you feel no better, And then I just
- 20:34Speaker 3: it's like, okay, now what now I'm still stuck.
- 20:36Speaker 1: I have to make the decision to forgive or get
- 20:40Speaker 1: over it.
- 20:40Speaker 3: You know, sometimes you're expecting people to heal a version
- 20:43Speaker 3: of you that doesn't exist anymore, and you literally are
- 20:45Speaker 3: a whole.
- 20:46Speaker 1: Different person, and you keep looking back at why but why?
- 20:49Speaker 1: But why?
- 20:49Speaker 3: But why?
- 20:50Speaker 1: Sometimes you won't know why do you think people?
- 20:52Speaker 2: It's funny you saday do you think people need closure?
- 20:55Speaker 1: I think that from the other person, it can help,
- 20:59Speaker 1: but it's not the whole picture. It won't give you
- 21:01Speaker 1: what you think it will.
- 21:02Speaker 3: You have to come to grips with it and be
- 21:05Speaker 3: okay in your own soul, or you'll ask them why
- 21:08Speaker 3: every five seconds. It's like somebody that forgave they spouse.
- 21:11Speaker 3: But anytime anything comes up, are you did you is that?
- 21:14Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's like, who wants to
- 21:16Speaker 1: live like that? You know?
- 21:18Speaker 3: Just accept that people are human, and you know, sometimes
- 21:23Speaker 3: it feels like hope for the best. But I believe
- 21:25Speaker 3: in declaring God's truth over my life, So I don't
- 21:27Speaker 3: hope for the best. I declare what God said. If
- 21:29Speaker 3: he said I'm healed, whole and complete, than I am.
- 21:31Speaker 3: If he said I'm free, then I am. If he
- 21:33Speaker 3: said he'll supply my needs according to his riches in glory,
- 21:36Speaker 3: then I don't have to worry about losing my money,
- 21:38Speaker 3: my status, or anything else, because if He gave it
- 21:40Speaker 3: to me, if I lose it, he gonna give it back.
- 21:42Speaker 1: Or if I don't, I'm still gonna be okay.
- 21:44Speaker 3: If I'm following and seeking after him, trust in the
- 21:47Speaker 3: Lord with all your heart, and lean not to your
- 21:49Speaker 3: own understanding, but in all your ways. Acknowledge Him, and
- 21:52Speaker 3: he will direct your path. He'll direct my stops and
- 21:55Speaker 3: my starts, my yeses and my nose, He'll direct all
- 21:58Speaker 3: of it.
- 21:58Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm not just her trust in God, real, quay.
- 22:02Speaker 1: I just want to see this. I actually lived in
- 22:04Speaker 1: l A for like two years, right, and I went
- 22:06Speaker 1: to your church. I remember you, and I never got to.
- 22:14Speaker 3: I was a little bit.
- 22:16Speaker 1: I was, but I had a son. And that's why
- 22:19Speaker 1: you had a blue suit on. Because that I was
- 22:20Speaker 1: like that she right, right.
- 22:22Speaker 3: And I was like.
- 22:26Speaker 1: At the same time, I'm looking at you know, and
- 22:28Speaker 1: Eric kind of like I grew up listening to these
- 22:32Speaker 1: women and I just cannot believe.
- 22:33Speaker 3: But I never got to express y'all and to tell
- 22:36Speaker 3: y'all my four favorite songs, right, this is between two
- 22:39Speaker 3: albums Still My Child and I and then listen list
- 22:45Speaker 3: absolutely like because it's it's the harmony. Sometimes I can't even.
- 22:48Speaker 1: Tell y'all apart.
- 22:49Speaker 3: But yesterday Wade in the Water because that's like black
- 22:53Speaker 3: Negro spirits, I was like, and oh my god, it
- 22:59Speaker 3: was one more but real.
- 23:00Speaker 1: Quick, what I wanted to ask you about, and I right,
- 23:01Speaker 1: was that a sample? Was that a same? Did y'all sample?
- 23:05Speaker 1: Like the melody that? And was that from Sierra or
- 23:08Speaker 1: to Sierra? Probably get that from y'all. I don't I
- 23:11Speaker 1: don't know the Sierra song. Okay, she probably got from y'all. No,
- 23:14Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, that's right, because that that was
- 23:16Speaker 1: two thousand and five. Yes, that y'all came out with that. Okay,
- 23:19Speaker 1: I get that third record, but I'm the record I think. Yeah, Yes,
- 23:22Speaker 1: I'm a real, marry married connoisseur. Oh thank you. That's
- 23:26Speaker 1: why I'm like, she coming here. I know she in
- 23:28Speaker 1: for the movie, but I want to see if we're
- 23:29Speaker 1: gonna get some more music. Oh yeah, you can everything.
- 23:34Speaker 3: Hearing y'all voices, y'all really really feel like y'all feel
- 23:38Speaker 3: what y'all talking about.
- 23:39Speaker 1: And I love it. Yeah.
- 23:41Speaker 3: You know when you grow up with nothing, like for
- 23:43Speaker 3: real nothing, yeah, move fifteen times, welfare, twelve kids, little card,
- 23:48Speaker 3: mom and dad married and divorced each other three times,
- 23:51Speaker 3: you've been through something.
- 23:52Speaker 1: And to know that even through all of.
- 23:55Speaker 3: That, God can still keep us, God can still bless us.
- 23:57Speaker 3: That's all I want people to know that you really
- 23:59Speaker 3: can make it through your stuff. And so whether it
- 24:02Speaker 3: is in the morning you'll be all right or I
- 24:04Speaker 3: just can't give up now, you know what I'm saying saying,
- 24:10Speaker 3: but them girls, minister, Yes, but the feelings that sometimes
- 24:13Speaker 3: you don't realize that's what you're doing. And I think
- 24:15Speaker 3: for a lot of years me and Tina didn't realize
- 24:17Speaker 3: that's what we were doing literally helping people think you
- 24:20Speaker 3: just singing.
- 24:21Speaker 1: You go, Oh my god, we ministers like I need this.
- 24:24Speaker 1: I seen it.
- 24:24Speaker 3: I remember I was here. I was in Brooklyn going
- 24:26Speaker 3: to some store and this dude I thought he was
- 24:28Speaker 3: hitting on me. He was like, hey, yo, you from
- 24:29Speaker 3: that group.
- 24:30Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, thinking you know, you know, and
- 24:33Speaker 1: he said, y'all, I know you're doing your solo thing.
- 24:35Speaker 1: He was like, but the streets need Mary Mary. Yes.
- 24:38Speaker 3: He was like in a different kind of way. So
- 24:39Speaker 3: you know, just whenever you're all ready, we were ready
- 24:42Speaker 3: for y'all. Was such a beautiful compliment and so I
- 24:44Speaker 3: always right right me.
- 24:49Speaker 1: He was like, yo, married married, they made no gospel jeans.
- 24:52Speaker 1: You got on, sister. I said, where you buy the
- 24:54Speaker 1: gospel jeans?
- 24:55Speaker 2: Brother?
- 24:56Speaker 1: He was like, my bad, you look nice, you know,
- 24:58Speaker 1: but y'all everybody you feel y'all.
- 25:00Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Even him saying, yo, yo
- 25:03Speaker 3: life he receives that ministry as well.
- 25:05Speaker 1: Yeah, so we definitely need y'all.
- 25:06Speaker 2: So after you get in the studio, one last question,
- 25:11Speaker 2: I know, what advice do you have for couples who
- 25:13Speaker 2: may be struggling with temptation or cheating? What advice would
- 25:17Speaker 2: you give those couples.
- 25:19Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta have some real conversations. You gotta
- 25:22Speaker 3: be willing to be vulnerable. You know, sometimes we are
- 25:25Speaker 3: not fearless enough to say, hey, I need more of you.
- 25:29Speaker 3: I need I need more conversation. I need I know,
- 25:32Speaker 3: you know, for the dudes. I know you're paying the
- 25:33Speaker 3: rent and all of that, but I want to talk
- 25:35Speaker 3: to you. You know, I know you taking the kids.
- 25:37Speaker 3: And sometimes women can get real consumed with the life
- 25:40Speaker 3: of the house or the life of the marriage, and
- 25:42Speaker 3: you don't, you know, pay attention and just pay attention
- 25:45Speaker 3: to one another.
- 25:46Speaker 1: Do love? Check in how your heart feeling?
- 25:48Speaker 3: We good?
- 25:49Speaker 1: Do you feel this love? You know what I mean?
- 25:52Speaker 1: I literally asked my husband before we left, even though
- 25:54Speaker 1: we celebrated. I was like, we good, babe. He was like,
- 25:57Speaker 1: here you go. It was like, you're busy. I'm busy,
- 26:00Speaker 1: but we in here, we locked in. I would tell
- 26:03Speaker 1: them to just check on one another. Check on your heart.
- 26:06Speaker 3: You know, am I your safe place? Is it okay
- 26:09Speaker 3: for you to fall apart here? You know you don't
- 26:12Speaker 3: have to put on and pretend for me. If it's
- 26:14Speaker 3: not working for you, say it's not working for you.
- 26:16Speaker 3: Just be honest and bring God in the.
- 26:18Speaker 1: Middle of it.
- 26:19Speaker 3: Pray together, pray in the morning. What's your prayer for
- 26:22Speaker 3: your family? What's your prayer over your family legacy? What
- 26:25Speaker 3: are you declaring? And by that, I mean what are
- 26:27Speaker 3: you speaking over your marriage? You know, I think all
- 26:31Speaker 3: those things are important, And even even if it has
- 26:33Speaker 3: been rocket, you don't have to stay that way. It's
- 26:36Speaker 3: always going to be a season where, you know, we
- 26:37Speaker 3: may I don't want talk to you that much. What
- 26:39Speaker 3: I say, I ain't going nowhere, but leave me alone
- 26:41Speaker 3: real quick. You know you're gonna have that. That doesn't
- 26:43Speaker 3: mean walk away. Who were who you are when you
- 26:46Speaker 3: first get married is not who you are at year
- 26:48Speaker 3: ten or twenty five. So you have to embrace the
- 26:51Speaker 3: different seasons of who you become. You changed, you should
- 26:55Speaker 3: after fifteen twenty years, you know. Yeah, just take some time.
- 27:01Speaker 3: You can't ensure five to ten years of a good
- 27:03Speaker 3: marriage and you just started dating. I think a lot
- 27:05Speaker 3: of people so desperately want to avoid any pain or
- 27:09Speaker 3: any issue till they never get the beauty of experiencing
- 27:12Speaker 3: all that love can be. I'm fine you are like that.
- 27:18Speaker 3: I'm fine with going through this time around, because I'm grown.
- 27:22Speaker 3: I'm fine with going through all the real things and
- 27:23Speaker 3: make sure that this is where it needs to be
- 27:25Speaker 3: before we do the things we're going to do later on,
- 27:27Speaker 3: especially might having kids with somebody. I need to be
- 27:29Speaker 3: that need to be solid. So I'm good and we
- 27:31Speaker 3: good over here. Don't worry about nothing.
- 27:33Speaker 1: We do our check in.
- 27:34Speaker 3: May you good?
- 27:35Speaker 1: You good?
- 27:36Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 27:36Speaker 1: We do all that were good over here. It would
- 27:38Speaker 1: speak to me. That's the last girl that speaks to me.
- 27:43Speaker 1: Come on, if you not know, y'all need to listen, right,
- 27:47Speaker 1: I'm sorry for real. Well, it's all good.
- 27:49Speaker 2: That shall now commit Adultery comes out this Saturday on
- 27:53Speaker 2: Lifetime six, and we're just asking you close this.
- 27:55Speaker 1: Out with a prayer. Please appreciate you doing it absolutely. Lord.
- 27:58Speaker 3: I thank you and I praise you for this day,
- 28:00Speaker 3: for your goodness, for your mercy, for your grace. Lord Jesus,
- 28:03Speaker 3: I thank you, Lord, for each and every person in
- 28:05Speaker 3: this room. You know where they are, you know what
- 28:06Speaker 3: they need, You know the questions that they ask, You
- 28:09Speaker 3: know the things that are on the inside that hurt them. Lord,
- 28:11Speaker 3: I ask that you bring peace, that you bring answers, God,
- 28:14Speaker 3: that you give them, the strength to stand, the strength
- 28:15Speaker 3: to fight, the strength to hold on to you, to not.
- 28:18Speaker 1: Be distracted and not be deceived.
- 28:20Speaker 3: I thank you, Lord that your plans for us are
- 28:21Speaker 3: much better than anything we could plan for ourselves.
- 28:24Speaker 1: So we seek you first.
- 28:25Speaker 3: We trust you.
- 28:26Speaker 1: I thank you God that you are the lover of
- 28:27Speaker 1: our souls, just as we are. Father.
- 28:29Speaker 3: We don't have to clean ourselves up. You do a
- 28:31Speaker 3: much better job than we ever could. We don't have
- 28:34Speaker 3: to fight our own battles. God, you fight way better
- 28:36Speaker 3: than me. So we put every issue in your hand. Lord,
- 28:38Speaker 3: Bless them, Cover them, keep them in the center of
- 28:40Speaker 3: your will and the palm of your hand.
- 28:41Speaker 1: Cover them with your blood.
- 28:43Speaker 3: Keep their minds safe, their money safe. They're family safe,
- 28:45Speaker 3: their children, their relationships, their parents. Lord, you are concerned
- 28:49Speaker 3: about everything concerning them. Now, Satan, I serve you. Notice
- 28:52Speaker 3: you've no place, power or authority. You will not steal
- 28:54Speaker 3: what God has for them. In the name of Jesus,
- 28:57Speaker 3: we send you back to the pit and every demon
- 28:59Speaker 3: you brought with you.
- 29:00Speaker 1: Lord, Cover them.
- 29:00Speaker 3: Lord, let your angels cover and protect them and keep
- 29:03Speaker 3: them safe. Even bless this show, Bless the work that
- 29:05Speaker 3: they do. Bless the guests that they have as they
- 29:07Speaker 3: come in this room, let them feel you in Jesus name,
- 29:10Speaker 3: I pray thank God, Amen.
- 29:12Speaker 1: Amen.
- 29:13Speaker 3: When I get up here, you for over the seat
- 29:14Speaker 3: because it's somebody that sit here and I think he
- 29:16Speaker 3: is definitely.
- 29:19Speaker 1: Pray over again. Thank you so much for joining us.
- 29:23Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Come morning, hold up every day awake,
- 29:28Speaker 1: Ago picks up the breakfast glove. You don't finish for y'all. Done,