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10-20 H1: What's On Tap, K9's Return to Seattle & Gone Fishing · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hey, great morning to you. Welcome into the radio show
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  Speaker 1: known throughout the entire universe as Chuck in the Morning
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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. It is great to have
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  Speaker 1: you with us. Christopher Kidd is here. Anders Hurst is here.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Chuck Powell and we are wearing our
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday's best. As we get things going here on this
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  Speaker 1: special Tuesday, we'll take it till 10 o'clock this morning
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  Speaker 1: and all sorts of things to discuss over the course
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  Speaker 1: of our four hours here together with you. And so
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  Speaker 1: we hope you're with us for the entire ride.
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  Speaker 2: The entire hayride. You like a good hayride this time
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  Speaker 2: of year? Yeah, I think it sounds nice and a
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  Speaker 2: pumpkin patch.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, pumpkin patch. Oh, yeah. They're so busy now, though.
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  Speaker 1: I know. Incredibly good. That's the problem. Because we probably
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  Speaker 1: should do hayrides not this time of year. Yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: We should probably do them at off-seasons. Yeah. The off-season.
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  Speaker 1: Good point. Yeah. That way you don't have to worry
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  Speaker 1: about standing in line or having you know, other people's
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  Speaker 1: sticky kids, uh, getting their caramel apple on you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You and I are advocates for every off season in sports.
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  Speaker 2: You love the draft. We love hot stove. We, you know, it's,
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  Speaker 2: it's the most wonderful time of the year. So let's,
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  Speaker 2: let's apply it to the rest of our lives.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm trying to think like maybe, uh, maybe we
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  Speaker 1: do a special like Springtime, coming out of winter. Because
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  Speaker 1: you've got to do a hayride in cool weather. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's true. You know, because there's hay and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And you want to be all bundled up, and you've
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  Speaker 2: got to have a bonfire and a campfire. If not
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  Speaker 2: a bonfire, probably a campfire. You've got to have yourself
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  Speaker 2: some s'mores waiting for you at the end of it all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But you're right. We've got to lessen the load. We've
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  Speaker 1: got to lessen the number of people that are around us.
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  Speaker 1: We want the hay and the ride to ourselves. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: right after Halloween, like in November. Oh, that's not a
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  Speaker 1: bad idea. Yeah. But everyone's like, oh, it's done. That's over.
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  Speaker 1: Between Halloween and Thanksgiving. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because everyone thinks it's Christmas time after that, and it
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  Speaker 2: skips over my favorite holiday.
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  Speaker 1: You can't tell I'm salty. I think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people's favorite holiday is Thanksgiving. Thank you. Thank you. You're
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  Speaker 1: not the only one there. But that's not a bad idea.
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  Speaker 1: We do an annual hayride in between Halloween and Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 1: Ever been on a hayride, Chris Kidd? I have not. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: my gosh. You're missing out. You're missing out. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's bumpy, and it's cold, and it's been like 30
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  Speaker 1: years since I've— No, it's been 40 years since I've
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  Speaker 1: done one. Because last time I did it, it was
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  Speaker 1: an excuse to make out with girls because the parents
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  Speaker 1: weren't watching. That's a good call. Yeah. but there are
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  Speaker 1: more values to it. All the things that we mentioned earlier,
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  Speaker 1: of course, that we need to take advantage of. Cause
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  Speaker 1: I'm certainly not going to assemble a hayride to make
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  Speaker 1: out with a girl. All right. Well, it's great to
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  Speaker 1: have you with us. You know, you put together your
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  Speaker 1: own hayride plans out there. We'll do us. You do you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about this Monday night football game last night.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many little elements. The more I kept thinking about,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, man, there are so many things to talk
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  Speaker 1: about in the, from this game. last night it started
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  Speaker 1: like right off the bat with Aikman versus Buck and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like okay I forgot about this yeah because they
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  Speaker 1: apparently had a blow up they already were on the
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  Speaker 1: outs because of some contract stuff and so last week
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  Speaker 1: not many people picked up on it but there were
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  Speaker 1: some stories that surfaced from you know people that saw
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  Speaker 1: them actually arguing apparently they were giving each other the
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  Speaker 1: cold shoulder or Aikman was given Joe the cold shoulder
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  Speaker 1: interesting And then Aikman, excuse me, Buck just said like
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  Speaker 1: right before the game started, like, okay, are we going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about this? We're going to hash this out.
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  Speaker 1: And then they blew up. Well, this was the first game,
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  Speaker 1: but nobody knew that. Right. While the game was going
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  Speaker 1: on last Monday, nobody knew that except for when they
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  Speaker 1: started posting photos or posting tweets. Yeah. And then all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden this week, everybody's like ready for it. Like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: how are they going to conduct themselves? They've had a
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  Speaker 1: week to think about it. How are they going to
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  Speaker 1: be in the booth this week? And, of course, everybody
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  Speaker 1: reacted to how much Aikman hates Buck. And I know
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  Speaker 1: he's angry with him. He's certainly angry with him. And
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  Speaker 1: maybe he does hate him. But people read into it
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  Speaker 1: so much. Way too much.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. They didn't show it. If you didn't know, you
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't have known.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he takes four and a half seconds to answer that.
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  Speaker 2: He is purposely leaving him hanging.
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  Speaker 1: Purposely. Yeah, I mean, I thought they conducted themselves professionally.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I believe whatever the rift is, I do believe
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  Speaker 1: it's ongoing. And I do believe Aikman's got the right
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  Speaker 1: of it from all the reports that I've heard. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that alone kind of captured the evening. It was trending
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  Speaker 1: last night. Oh, look how much Aikman hates Buck. If
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  Speaker 1: you wouldn't have known that going in, you would have
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  Speaker 1: never read into that. Their body language was a story
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  Speaker 1: last night on social media. What?
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: That's so wild to me. So that's how the evening starts. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Then we actually get into the game itself, and it
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  Speaker 1: looks like the 49ers is going to blow them out.
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  Speaker 1: And sure enough, I mean, you would think that Dan
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  Speaker 1: Quinn and Jaden Daniels are going to be on top
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  Speaker 1: of their game. And damn, if they didn't do it again,
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  Speaker 1: like two weeks in a row, toward the end of half...
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  Speaker 1: Dan Quinn and Jaden Daniels, after last week, both thought
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  Speaker 1: it was third down, ran a play. Daniels throws it
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  Speaker 1: out of bounds. There's no way you're throwing on fourth
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  Speaker 1: and two. If you think it's fourth and two, you're
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  Speaker 1: not throwing a ball away on fourth and two. You're
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  Speaker 1: going to try, and if it gets intercepted, it gets intercepted,
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  Speaker 1: but you're going to try to score a touchdown. Daniels
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  Speaker 1: didn't know it was fourth down. Quinn didn't know it
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  Speaker 1: was fourth down. And all of a sudden they pan
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  Speaker 1: to the sidelines because nobody can figure out what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: And you read Dan Quinn's lips and he says, it
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  Speaker 1: was fourth down. With like a questionable face on it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then he's told, yeah, it was fourth down. And
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  Speaker 1: he's like, oh, rats.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And as he says that, Jane Daniels walks by him too.
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  Speaker 2: And he's like screaming, like.
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  Speaker 1: Why'd you throw it away? Neither one of them knew
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  Speaker 1: what down it was. After last week, they did it again. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Quinn played it off afterwards, and I think he got
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  Speaker 1: coached on this because I think somebody from the PR
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  Speaker 1: staff says, you do not want to take the heat
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  Speaker 1: for this. Not after last week. So they got to him,
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  Speaker 1: and there was a flag on the play. They're showing
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  Speaker 1: the play right now in our studio. There was a
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  Speaker 1: flag on the play, and he played it off afterwards like,
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  Speaker 1: we thought it was an illegal shift. And an illegal shift,
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  Speaker 1: he played it off like, I thought that that killed
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  Speaker 1: the play. We were going to get penalized five yards
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  Speaker 1: and kick a field goal. An illegal shift, if you
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  Speaker 1: play the play out, and it's incomplete, they can decline it.
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  Speaker 1: So at best, he's confessing, I don't know the legal
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  Speaker 1: shift rule. That's his cop-out. I don't know the rules
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  Speaker 1: for a legal shift. I thought that we got a
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  Speaker 1: new play. That's what he's using as... So he's at
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  Speaker 1: least admitting, I don't know the rules. And then at worst,
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  Speaker 1: he's covering up, for not knowing it was fourth down,
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  Speaker 1: which looks like the bigger sin. And so it looks
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  Speaker 1: very clear to me, and I realize he's well-liked and
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  Speaker 1: very well-respected in this city and throughout the National Football League,
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  Speaker 1: but it looked very much to me, and you tell
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  Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, Anders, that Dan Quinn blew it again,
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  Speaker 1: his quarterback blew it again, and Dan Quinn lied to
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  Speaker 1: the media last night to try to cover his ass
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  Speaker 1: Because he would rather be exposed for not knowing the
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  Speaker 1: illegal shift rule than he would for losing the number
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  Speaker 1: of downs on a game-scoring play at the end of half.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and all of that goes to... Without even talking
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  Speaker 2: about the actual decision to go for it. When you're
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  Speaker 2: down by 10, you can kick a field goal. It's
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  Speaker 2: still a two-score game, even if you score a touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: Well, but Anders, that's the whole point. He thought it
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  Speaker 1: was third down. Yeah, right. Oh, yeah, that's true. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean....
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  Speaker 2: I think what happened is Dan Quinn didn't know the down.
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  Speaker 2: That's why it's pretty obvious in the video. He's like, wait,
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  Speaker 2: that was fourth down as he's looking to like one
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  Speaker 2: of his assistants or something like that. And then he's like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: dang it. But Jane Daniels, I think, did know it
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  Speaker 2: was fourth down. No, he couldn't have.
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  Speaker 1: He threw the ball away.
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  Speaker 2: But then saw the flag and was like, okay, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a dead play anyway. We'll get another
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  Speaker 2: shot at it even if it's five yards back. Maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. They're doing it right now. The flag is right
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  Speaker 1: in his view. So he's like, oh, okay. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Looks to me like that was a player playing third
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  Speaker 1: down right there. It could be. Because if that's a
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  Speaker 1: flag and you think you're going to get another play,
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  Speaker 1: that's even more reason to try to squeeze it into
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  Speaker 1: the end zone. Yeah, that's a good point. It's a
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  Speaker 1: free play. Yeah. So he thought it was third down.
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  Speaker 1: They both did. I'm not defending it at all. One
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  Speaker 1: week after they blew the clock at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the game and both looked 100% entirely responsible for not
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  Speaker 1: understanding how clock management works. Or down management. One week later,
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  Speaker 1: they do that. They didn't know. And that was a
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  Speaker 1: scoring play. Now, to the credit of Dan Quinn, despite that,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, think about that. People went into the locker
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  Speaker 1: room like, man. What just happened? Our head coach is
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  Speaker 1: an idiot. Yeah. This is two times in a row
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  Speaker 1: that he's fallen asleep at the wheel where we had
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  Speaker 1: a chance to, you know, win a ball game last
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  Speaker 1: week and then this week get some points on the
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  Speaker 1: board before half. And for whatever he said at halftime,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning both tell us
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  Speaker 1: nothing said at halftime.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it was just the players that
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  Speaker 1: they met, and they're like, we got to step up.
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  Speaker 1: We got to... We love Dan Quinn so much. We've
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  Speaker 1: got to play much better, much harder in this second
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  Speaker 1: half to bail him out. Because they outplayed the 49ers
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  Speaker 1: in the second half. Big time outplayed them. And if
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  Speaker 1: not for a stupid face mask penalty, they would have
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  Speaker 1: gone up at least and maybe won the football game.
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  Speaker 1: And even that. They still had a chance after that.
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  Speaker 1: What a stupid penalty. It's one thing to hold. It's
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  Speaker 1: another thing to grab a defender's face mask in the
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  Speaker 1: wide open and rip his helmet off while you're running
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  Speaker 1: in a touchdown. While the guy's already past you. It
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  Speaker 1: makes no difference in the play. The commanders are just
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  Speaker 1: a flaming runaway truck right now. Just rolling downhill, it seems. But...
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  Speaker 1: Even in that state, he got them to play much better,
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  Speaker 1: much harder than they did the previous half. And they
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  Speaker 1: almost pulled off an upset against the San Francisco 49ers.
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  Speaker 1: Probably should have won the game.
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  Speaker 3: So....
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  Speaker 1: That says something about Dan Quinn, that he can be
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  Speaker 1: that bumbling of a fool to those watching two weeks
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  Speaker 1: in a row, and yet his players are still like,
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  Speaker 1: we got to get this thing together. So either that's
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  Speaker 1: self-pride or team pride, or they really had their coaches
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  Speaker 1: back because they like him that much. But it was
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  Speaker 1: an interesting turn of events, I'll tell you that, because
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  Speaker 1: I thought they were going to end up losing by 30.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like that's what was going to happen, and...
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  Speaker 2: I guess the Niners kind of fell flat on their
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  Speaker 2: face in that second half. The overwhelming feeling from last
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  Speaker 2: night is like, damn, the Seahawks lost to this team
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  Speaker 2: with a backup quarterback?
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  Speaker 1: Really? Really?
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  Speaker 2: And then someone replied to me on Twitter, which team?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they would have lost to Jaden Daniels.
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  Speaker 1: You think so? The only reason they lost is because
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  Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota kept getting rid of the football before they
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  Speaker 1: could get to him on a sack. I think Jaden
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  Speaker 1: Daniels has taken those sacks. Yeah, that's a good point.
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  Speaker 1: And he did in the first half, especially. And at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the game, too. The all game. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It sucks because I was really hoping for the commanders
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  Speaker 2: to come back and give the Seahawks, you know, a
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  Speaker 2: decent chance at making a comeback here in the second half. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Niners go 6-0.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. And they've still got a decent chance of
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  Speaker 1: doing it. But San Francisco last night. did expose themselves. Sure.
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  Speaker 1: They won the game, but this is the thing. And look,
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  Speaker 1: I I'm, I'm looking like for the second year in
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  Speaker 1: a row, my biggest, my worst prediction two years in
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  Speaker 1: a row as a sports talk show host is going
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  Speaker 1: to be that the San Francisco 49ers are going to fall.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to plummet. I mean, that's what it's looking like.
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  Speaker 1: I've now predicted it two years. I was obviously wrong
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  Speaker 1: last year, even though, you know, they did really weren't
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  Speaker 1: a challenger at the end of the year. And then
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  Speaker 1: this year, I mean, they're off to a 6-0 start.
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  Speaker 1: They got a 3.5 game lead over the Seahawks. They
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  Speaker 1: have a 4.5 game lead over the Rams. Six games
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  Speaker 1: into the season. My goodness. Well, the thing about them is,
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  Speaker 1: number one, their core superstar players are as good a
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  Speaker 1: core as there is in the National Football League. When
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  Speaker 1: they're on the field. Every year, they're on the field less.
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  Speaker 1: And That's one thing. But the other thing is when
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  Speaker 1: your stars are on the field less, then you've got
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  Speaker 1: to have the quality of bench to then step up.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the thing that has been roundly criticized by
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  Speaker 1: those that cover the team on a regular basis. The
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  Speaker 1: famous Grant Cohn, the famous, he's not famous, but the
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  Speaker 1: famous challenge of John Lynch during the draft in which
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  Speaker 1: he said, do you realize that everybody thinks that you're
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: terrible at drafting now? You know, that whole exchange that happened. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they have been bad at drafting the last three years.
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  Speaker 1: So it's one thing you're continuing to get your star players.
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  Speaker 1: They're your star players are obviously, I don't want to
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: say injury prone. They're aging at least, but they're aging
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  Speaker 1: and they're not rebounding and they suffer injuries every single year.
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  Speaker 1: And now you don't have the reinforcements to step up.
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  Speaker 1: And there will come a point when you have, Too
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  Speaker 1: many injuries and not enough step-up guys that you won't
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  Speaker 1: be able to sustain 6-0. They have really good players,
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  Speaker 1: about 7 to 10 of them. But if by midseason,
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  Speaker 1: only two or three of them around, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they have really good backups anymore. I agree. They have
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  Speaker 1: really good coaches. And Kyle Shanahan probably should have won
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  Speaker 1: coach of the year a year ago. But... Can he
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  Speaker 1: pull that same thing off with star players now a
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  Speaker 1: year older and that much more prone to injury and
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  Speaker 1: your depth even weaker because you had another bad draft
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  Speaker 1: and those guys have gotten hurt too? That's my narrative
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to the 49ers. So what did we
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: watch last night? Looked like they were dominating. Mike Evans
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: once again looks like the perfect addition. I'm sitting there saying, man,
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  Speaker 1: that Greg Cosell is smart. He told me in the
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: offseason that Mike Evans was the perfect addition to the
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco 49ers, and I didn't believe it. Mike Evans
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  Speaker 1: goes down last night with an Achilles injury. And that
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  Speaker 1: team is not the same for the rest of the game. Why?
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  Speaker 1: Because they don't have any wide receiver depth. Because Debo
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  Speaker 1: Samuel's already hurt. Ricky Pearsall's out for the season. And
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  Speaker 1: now you've lost Mike Evans. Dazon Stripling, who was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be one of the backups in case you did
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  Speaker 1: have injuries. He's out right now. So now they're out
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  Speaker 1: there with a ragtag, no-name group of receivers. Brock Purdy
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have the same timing. Commanders are getting to him
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  Speaker 1: on the pass rush. Christian McCaffrey's good, but he's not
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  Speaker 1: elite anymore. He's great.
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  Speaker 2: He's great, but he's lost a little bit. He's not
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  Speaker 2: the best running back in the league.
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  Speaker 1: Right. He's lost a little bit. And then you have
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  Speaker 1: a defense that also Fred Warner's phenomenal, but he's down
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  Speaker 1: a Nick Bosa right now. Uh, and, and, and a
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  Speaker 1: couple of other guys. So that's, that is my narrative.
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  Speaker 1: That's it playing out. If they can keep the core together,
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  Speaker 1: they get coached. Well, yeah, they can win a lot
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  Speaker 1: of games. I just don't think they're going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to keep the core together this year. And they
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  Speaker 1: might have reached the breaking point. Yeah. If Evans is
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  Speaker 1: that important that they can look dominant in the first
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  Speaker 1: half offensively and the commander's defense can expose them and
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  Speaker 1: stop them in the second half, they might have been like, Ooh,
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  Speaker 1: we are one lost injured player away from being very average.
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  Speaker 1: going forward, maybe Evans was that guy. Um, and don't
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: think that George Kittle's some, you know, yeah, yeah. That
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: he's the secret to, you know, longevity because the way
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: that guy plays and he's a year older, he's going
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: to get hurt at some point. So that's it. And
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: so I, yeah, they've got a big lead and they've
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: been the best team so far. There's no question about it,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: but all of those things that I thought they were
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: vulnerable against, really are starting to, I think, rear their
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: ugly heads a little bit. Yeah, I completely agree. It's
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: not like they're blowing people out. No, that's true. They're
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: barely getting by some of these victories right now. And
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: they're bound to drop games they shouldn't as well. Probably.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: And they've got a tough schedule lying ahead as well,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: as most teams do. All right, let's find out what's
• 18:18
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  Speaker 1: Other storyline from last night factor fiction win yeah i.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Thought that was gonna be the first story chuck what
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: are we doing come on i got it in the
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: first segment okay okay okay no i'm just we'll.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Play some fact or fiction at 735 but Anders is
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: out of his slump kids on the board as of
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: last week I climbed back over 500 last week here
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: this is how a championship is built not with talk
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell with action right here it's happening right.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Now you can be the Niners then you're gonna get
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: your injuries we'll be the Seahawks and play better at
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: the end of the.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Year Nice work, Anders. The 49ers have built a three-and-a-half
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: game lead after six games, four-and-a-half up on the Rams
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: who lost Devontae Adams yesterday for six to ten weeks.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Is he on your fantasy team, kid? He's on one
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: of my leagues, yeah. So there goes my season. The
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: only league I care about is the one you're in
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: with us. No, I do not. Oh, shoot.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I think you do.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: No, you don't. Oh, he doesn't? I don't think he does. Oh, okay.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I have Jamar. Jamar Chase, Nico Collins. Yes, that's who
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I have. Okay. I'm good to go. Picture of health,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Nico Collins. The Seahawks will host the Chiefs this Sunday
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Football. Anthony Bradford is expected back. Greg
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Bell will join us this morning at 7.05 to give
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: us the latest details. Jalen Hurts out for the season.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: in a really scary situation in Philadelphia. Blood clots that
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: have moved into his lungs. They're not going to risk it. Unfortunately,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni was put in a really bad position yesterday
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: to try to explain medical stuff and why Jalen Hurts played.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Nobody's risking it. There's a reason they have these medical teams.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: This is not 1975 when they tell them, if you
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: really care, you'll get out there. This is 2026, and
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: nobody's going to risk death of a player just to
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: win a game against the Carolina Panthers or whatever, whoever,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars in London. So I don't think that that's fair.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: People are really coming down hard on questioning whether or
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: not Nick Sirianni put winning a game above Jalen Hart's
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: life And that's not the case. Jeff Saturday said it
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: this morning. Head coaches don't have any say over this stuff.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Whatever the medical team, they work independently. Whatever the medical,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: if they say he can go, then they go. So
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: that's a change and a good change in professional football
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: these days. College football bye week for UW. We'll still
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: chat with Rick Neuheisel, of course. He doesn't get a
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: bye week. He'll be with us at 9 o'clock today.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Jed Fish is going to have an extra week to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: decide who's going to start at quarterback for him in
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: his next game. The NBA season begins today. Boston versus
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Detroit at noon. Philadelphia at the Knicks. The world champion
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Knicks at four. And OKC at San Antonio tonight at 630.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: You can't script a better triple header to start the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: season than what the NBA has. And it will be
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: on NBC to start the year. So it won't be
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Charles and company. who they should get the first game
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: every year. Come on now. WNBA playoffs, Atlanta even up
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: their series against Golden State with a 79-65 win. Got
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: to give credit to Angel Reese. I tell you what,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know if she knows which hand she's supposed
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: to shoot with. I don't know if she knows if
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: she's left-handed or right-handed. But I'm going to tell you this,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: that's a champion. She played her ass off. She plays hard.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Her teammates love her.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: And she produces. It's unorthodox. But she had 30-16 last night,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and the dream evened up the series. Major League Baseball playoffs.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Rays advanced in six games. Junior Caminero
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: just now finished rounding the bases last night as the
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Rays head to the World Series. Freddie Peralta, former Mariner prospect.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: is the MVP of the ALCS, a guy they picked
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: up at the trading deadline who was lost with the
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Mets but found his way in Tampa. The World Series
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: is now set for this Friday, Game 1, Tampa Bay
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: at Milwaukee. And I know it's small market World Series,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: and I know that a lot of you don't know
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the rosters on these two teams, but this is going
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: to be a fantastic matchup. I cannot wait for it
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: to start on Friday. All right, coming up next, you
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: know that Ken Walker is going to be a topic
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: all week long. He was our biggest topic on our
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Monday show yesterday, but there are a lot of different
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: ways to look at this, and I think it's fair
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: that we look at it John and Mike's way next.
• 23:05
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• 23:20
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• 23:23
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• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Voice guy.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: It is a Kraken Ticket Tuesday. Nobody told me I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: had to mention it in the very first three minutes
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: of the show. Pops up at random times.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: You never know.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Don't rush me. I mean, it is Kraken Ticket Tuesday
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: all Tuesday, right? I think so. Did it have to
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: be mentioned in the first segment? I mean, are there
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: laws to this? No, there's not. But now you know. Yeah,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: now you know. Kraken Ticket Tuesdays, if you are unfamiliar,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: every Tuesday or nearly every Tuesday during the Kraken season,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: we give away a pair of tickets every single hour.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Be listening. There's going to be this piece of audio
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: that I think is already played. Did you already play it, kid? Okay,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: it's already played. So I guess those that know how
• 24:08
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• 24:11
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• 24:13
  Speaker 1: throughout our broadcast day. Be listening. It'll be a piece
• 24:17
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• 24:20
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• 24:24
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• 24:28
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• 24:31
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• 24:34
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• 24:37
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• 24:41
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• 24:43
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• 24:46
  Speaker 1: talk to Everett Fitzhugh today at 8.30 about that very matchup.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk Ken Walker. It's going to be
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the biggest story. We're going to need a lot of
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: different angles this week to talk about Ken Walker's return
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: to Seattle. He's turned into the best running back in
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the National Football League statistically. I mentioned it yesterday. He's
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: on pace for 2,261 yards. Rushing. I'd say that's pretty good.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Just rushing this season. And he's on pace for 27 touchdowns. Now,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: he's not going to keep those incredible paces, but there's
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: no question that Ken Walker has been exactly what Kansas
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: City thought that they were getting, gambled on getting. And
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: through five games, he's been the MVP of the National
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Football League over Josh Allen. over any quarterback that you
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: can name. Steve Weiss said it yesterday on our airwaves,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: and I don't have the words to dispute him, that
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: so far, Ken Walker is the MVP of the league.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: So far. Now, we spent a lot of time, Anders,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: yesterday talking about how they evaluated this, how much better
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks would look right now had they kept Ken
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Walker and maybe used that money on Rashid Shaheed. And
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I do know, I mean, Greg's told us many times,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't one or the other. Could have
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: done both. Yeah, but they just weren't going to spend
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: the money on a running back. They just weren't organizational
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: philosophy with how many guys they have to sign in
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the future. That's why Ken Walker's not here. They just
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: weren't going to invest that kind of money long-term in
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: a running back. They thought that they could find his
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: replacement on the cheap in the draft. And so far,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: we just haven't seen Jadarian Price play that much. And
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: we haven't seen Zach Charbonnet play at all, which was
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: to be expected. But I will say this. I just
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: heard a promo with Ian Furness saying, you know, maybe
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: we got to give John and Mike a little bit
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: of trust here. We are just five games into the season.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: And one of the reasons that they didn't like Ken Walker,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: one of the very few reasons they didn't like Ken
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Walker was the durability thing. And he's now being used
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: more now. He had 220 carries was his most carries
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: in a Seahawk uniform. He's on pace for 360 carries now.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: With the Kansas City Chiefs this year. He can't keep
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: up that pace. Few running backs can. Derrick Henry. And
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the list ends there.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: You know? So... We do have to see this thing through. Like,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: right now, it looks like, big mistake, Seahawks. But there
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: is an element, right? We have to at least look
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: at it from another angle. We have to look at
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: it from Mike and John's angle. Let's see if he can...
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: be durable through an entire season being used the way
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: he is in Kansas City. Because if he ends up
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: injured or out for a period of time, there is
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: a world out there where five weeks from now, Ken
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Walker's injured because he's been used too much, and we
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: have a healthy Price and Zach Charbonnet that are finally
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: playing in the same backfield together, and maybe we don't
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: have the world's worst running back room anymore. Yeah, I think.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: As you mentioned, one of the few reasons they were
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: hesitant or didn't want to re-sign Kenneth Walker is the
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: durability factor. You don't judge the durability factor six weeks
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: into the season. You judge it however they... get through
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: the end of the season, just like we were talking
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: about with the 49ers, right? That's what we're worried about
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: with them. It's not that they haven't been playing well.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Ken Walker has. It's not that he hasn't been playing
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: well through the first six weeks. And right now we
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: can only react to what we've seen. And he's been
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: an absolute home run with.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: For sure. With Kansas City. Grand slam.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: But the biggest reason why he wasn't extended was the
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: fact that he couldn't stay on the field. And even
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: in last season, there were like nicks and bruises here
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: and there.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll correct you. The biggest reason they didn't want
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: to invest that money. Now that has been reported by
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: nearly every Seahawks beat writer that there is. They didn't
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: want to spend that money in that position. Okay. That's
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the biggest reason.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: But other reasons are two, you know, you know, $ 15 million,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: that's gotta be your bell cow. Are we going to
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: ever use him that way? Three, can he stay healthy
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: for a full season? Because he never really did here.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: You know, He played a lot of games, but he
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: wasn't on what running back is, really. And then the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: third thing is, do you ever run where the play
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: is designed for? Which he did in the playoffs a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: year ago. But before that, that was a big bone
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: of contention for Mike McDonald. Otherwise, he wouldn't have pulled
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: him out of some really big games and some really
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: crucial drives. So those are, as I read it, the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: three biggest reasons. Yeah, I could see it the same way. way.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: And yeah, you're right. The Chiefs, I didn't even think
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: about it this way. The Chiefs did take a risk
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: in signing him, like giving him that money, basically saying
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: you're the running back, like one, two, whatever. We're not
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: sharing carries with you. You're going to be the guy.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: You've never proven that you can do that, but we're
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: still going to do it to you because we believe
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: you are that guy. Now he's shown that he can
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: be through the first six weeks of the season, but
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: can he do it for the rest of the season
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: is the big question.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and I think the actual bigger risk is,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Not that they signed him. I mean, let's face it.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: If you watched Ken Walker and you were as hopeful
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: about Ken Walker as a lot of us were, and
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I am in that boat. Me too. Tell me that
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the moment the Chiefs didn't sign him, you're like, oh, no.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Because you know the upside on this guy. And if
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: he gets to the right system with the right play
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: caller and a good quarterback, oh, gosh, what are we
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: going to have to watch? And it's been... an absolute nightmare.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: We've watched him be even better. Hey, I thought he
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: was capable of 1500, 1800 yards in a season. That's
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the type of talent that we had. And we grabbed
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: in the second round of the draft. And now we're
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: looking at a guy on pace for over 2000. So
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was necessarily a risk that they
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: took in signing him in Kansas city. Cause they really
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: needed to fill that hole and take some pressure off
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: of Patrick Mahomes in a different way. I think the
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: risk is how much they're giving him the ball so
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: far this year. Yeah. They are throwing caution to the wind.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: This is not a one-year investment they made with Walker.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: So we'll see. And I think we at least owe
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: John and Mike a we'll see on this.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I do believe it's looking bad. I mean, when they
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: took Ken Walker, they were just like, ooh. Would you
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: have felt the same way if it was like the Titans?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I was going to feel that way no matter what. Hell,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: we felt that way with DK. True. People felt the
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: same way about DK. Oh, no. Are they going to
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: unlock that potential that we kept talking about every single
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: week and they're not targeting him enough? Right. It's the
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: exact opposite over there. And it's the exact opposite. Now,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: he had a good game last week. Yeah, he's had
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: a few good games so far. But you're right, kid.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: It's the exact opposite. And there were a lot of
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: people that... We're nauseous about, nauseated about losing DK. And
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: we never really showed him and showcased him. And the
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Seahawks ended up not only being right, they aced that.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: They aced that read. No, they absolutely aced that read.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: They aced that trade. And they aced the draft pick
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: of JSN to be our number one receiver. So, you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: this one, now we have a little more evidence. It
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: feels bad. It feels like it's not going to work out.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: If you want me to predict, it's not going to
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: work out. We're going to regret that we don't have
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Ken Walker, that he ended up not staying here. You're
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: not going to bat 1,000. But we're five games into
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: a 17-game season, and we are not just reacting to
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: the Ken Walker success, which he can't sustain. He's not
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: going to rush for 2,300 yards this year. We are
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: also reacting to the horrible state of our running game,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: which right now is down its top two running backs.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: So this running back room could look a lot different
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: five weeks from now, two weeks from now. By the
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: end of the season, who knows what it will look like.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: We still have a trading deadline. If it looks terrible,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: we're going to address something at the trading deadline. And
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: let's see if Ken Walker at that pace... can be
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: given that many carries and can last 17 games. So
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: just like anything in sports, you have a reaction. Sometimes
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: it's an overreaction. It's not looking good right now, but
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I think we at least had to spend some time
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: this week looking at it through Mike and John's eyes.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: All right, coming up next, the Major League Baseball season
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: is coming down to its ultimate moment. A World Series
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: is here, and that means for all the losers... They
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: have gone fishin'. Sports Radio 93.3, KJRFM. But every time
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: we see somebody eliminated, we steal from Charles and company
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: and we do the whole gone fishin' thing. And so
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: we've got a few people last night, now that the
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Guardians have been knocked from the playoffs, that have gone fishin'.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Stephen Kwan has gone fishin'. He is off of Christopher
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Kidd's team. Jose Ramirez has gone fishin'. And he has
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: left my roster, but I'm sitting in pretty good place,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: and Jose Ramirez was my MVP. Well done. I was
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: on base 28 times. Total base is 28 for the year.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: So I am in the lead, and it really just
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: comes down to me or our listener, David, as Junior
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Caminero is on his team. But he's going to have
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: to get awfully hot because I have Jackson Churrio remaining,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: and I am up 14 bases on our listener, David.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: So 14-base lead. So Caminero can get hot. He can.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: That's not out of the picture, but I think you've
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: got a good spot. I think I'm in good position.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: So that's where we are in our showdown draft right
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: now for the Major League Baseball playoffs and the Tampa
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Bay Rays move on and the Guardians go home. But
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I actually wanted to talk about somebody who's gone fishing
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: that was not part of our draft, and that is
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Stephen Vogt has gone fishing. So this process that the
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Mariners are going through to find their next manager, I
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: don't think there's much of a chance that they could
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: get Kevin Cash or Steven Vogt. But I do believe
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: they were going to wait until the end of the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs before they made any decision. I don't think they
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: were going to name a manager before the World Series.
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  Speaker 1: And I think part of the reason, no matter how
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: small the part would be, was, let's face it, the
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: three best managers in the game are the last three
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: standing in in major league baseball, including vote and cash, uh,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: in the American league who've been, you know, operating with
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: small market budgets, smaller than the Mariners here for the
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: last couple of seasons and yet continuously win awards and
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: win games at a higher pace. Steve vote was a
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: part of the Mariners organization. Jerry and Justin should be
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: given credit. They saw in him an a high ceiling
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  Speaker 1: that maybe this could be a future manager but the
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: guardians figured it out after just one year and kind
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: of stole them away and i don't think the mariners
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  Speaker 1: were ready for to have to make that decision right
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: right and so obviously they like him i think they
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: kind of want to take credit for seeing in him
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  Speaker 1: those abilities and i wouldn't be surprised at all that
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: if at least a phone call was made to the
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Guardians now that he's been eliminated, or to Stephen Vogt
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  Speaker 1: to see if there's interest, if it's worth going after.
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  Speaker 1: At least ask the questions.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to happen, but at least
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: ask the questions. Yeah, I mean, at this point, it
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: would take a trade, obviously, because he's contracted with them.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: It was reported that he was in line to be
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: promoted to bench coach right before he got hired by Cleveland. So,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: bench coach with the Mariners, but right before he got
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: hired by Cleveland to be their manager. So, that goes
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: along with what you're saying. They believed in him. They
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: saw him as kind of the future guy. I believe
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: that was services last year in 2024 that that was
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: the case, but I can't remember distinctly with my years.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: But would you do Emerson Hancock for Steven Vogt right now?
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I would. That said, it does
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: show you how valuable managers can be. It's true. Like
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I said, the last three teams are not the three
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: most talented teams in the sport. What they all have
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: in common is they have the three best managers in
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the game. Yes. And it's not X's and O's. It's
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: culture establishment. It's managing players. It's managing outcomes. Managing data.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: It's managing data and marrying it with gut. All of that.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: And these three are the standard. And so... it may
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: cost that good of a player. If you wanted to
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: go down that road, it might take, I mean, I
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: don't think, I think that's probably too much, you know,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: a quality starting pitcher with many years of control. I
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: don't think that they'd go that far. I don't know
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: if I'd go that far. Brendan Donovan, I probably would.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: One year left on his deal. Yeah, I think I
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: would do that too. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, it's
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: a couple of things there. Like they had a good
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: instinct about him. It's just the Guardians had a better one.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I think Brian Kenney talks about this all the time. Like,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: you say you love this guy, but I have him
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: ranked higher than you. So you don't really love him.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: You like him. I love him. Yeah. He always does this.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: He always corrects people on that because of the way
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: that they use their words. The Mariners say they loved him,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: but no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You clearly
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: only liked him. The Guardians loved him. Loved him. Yeah.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Because they didn't even have a year around him to
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: understand him better. They circled him right away. He's going
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: to be the replacement of Terry Francona, for goodness sake.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Of all people. And it's worked out tremendously. So we'll see.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: But at least now his season is over. He's gone fishing.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: And I'd at least make some inquiries about it. All right.
• 39:22
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