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Oscar Parties and Dr. Drew on Scandavol · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: Hannah McDonald. Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 4: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have the best show.
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  Speaker 4: I had a crazy fun weekend that involved Oscars, Vanderpump Rules,
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  Speaker 4: private party, and so much more. And then I get
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  Speaker 4: an interview with Jill Zarin who went to the Elton
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  Speaker 4: John and the Vanity Fair Oscar parties telling us fresh
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  Speaker 4: off like all the scoop and who she ran into.
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  Speaker 4: And I also have a great interview with with Dr. Drew,
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  Speaker 4: at least the first part of it, where we're going
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  Speaker 4: to talk about cheating, narcissism, his opinion of the Scandaval situation,
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  Speaker 4: and what makes someone a cheater or not, how to
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  Speaker 4: live with a narcissist. It's really juicy. So let's get
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  Speaker 4: into it. So my weekend began on Saturday afternoon at
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  Speaker 4: three o'clock, where I was invited to a very exclusive
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  Speaker 4: birthday party for Ocean Kent, Lala's two-year-old daughter.
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  Speaker 2: And it was really fun.
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  Speaker 4: It was at one of those indoor play places that
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  Speaker 4: became popular when my kids were little.
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  Speaker 2: So easy. So Kids are contained. They're playing.
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  Speaker 4: And so it was private and it was, but really
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  Speaker 4: just so fun for the kids. Ocean is adorable. She's
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  Speaker 4: very like, hi, gives me a hug and is very
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  Speaker 4: much like Lala. Like she was about to go down
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  Speaker 4: the slide and she was a little scared. And then
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  Speaker 4: when I went down to catch her, she was like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, I'm good then. As long as you're there,
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  Speaker 4: like I'm good to go. And then Sheena came with
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  Speaker 4: her daughter, Summer, who was dressed as Boo because the
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  Speaker 4: theme was Monsters, Inc.
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  Speaker 2: And the girls are best friends.
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  Speaker 4: And she like ran right up to her and was like,
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  Speaker 4: come friend, let me show you all that's happening here.
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  Speaker 4: So it was, everybody was there. So Kristen Doty showed
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  Speaker 4: up and she, you know, was very into the kids
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  Speaker 4: and happy to be there. We know now that she's
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  Speaker 4: filming with Vanderpump and she's very close to Ariana and
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  Speaker 4: being a great support system. We're going to see some
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  Speaker 4: of her in these, you know, these instantaneous episodes that
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  Speaker 4: have happened since the Scandival. Stassi was there looking great.
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  Speaker 4: She's showing she's pregnant. She was there with Bo and
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  Speaker 4: her daughter Hartford, who is so cute, but no longer
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  Speaker 4: a redhead. She's got like longer, like sandy blonde brown
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  Speaker 4: hair and really cute. Jackson Brittany showed up there a
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  Speaker 4: little bit later. You know how it is with kids.
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  Speaker 4: And their son is like a model. Like he has,
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  Speaker 4: he's so cute. So all the kids are playing. And
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  Speaker 4: I talked to Katie and I couldn't help but give
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  Speaker 4: my opinion of what I think went down. And, you know,
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  Speaker 4: she is saying what we're hearing in the news and
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  Speaker 4: that Sandoval knew, but only, I mean, sorry, Schwartz knew
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  Speaker 4: about the scandal, but only very recently. And recently, we
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  Speaker 4: don't know what that means. A month, a few weeks,
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  Speaker 4: two months. I truly think, and I've said this theory,
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  Speaker 4: but I say it again, I think something was going
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  Speaker 4: on at Coachella, whether it was flirtiness or some sparks
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  Speaker 4: or full-blown affair, I don't know, which is April of
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  Speaker 4: this past year, in which some fan had given to
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  Speaker 4: Dumas or whoever, and then the rumor went like wildfire
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  Speaker 4: that Raquel was seen kissing Schwartz. We know now Schwartz
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  Speaker 4: was not at Coachella, but Sandoval was, and there's now
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  Speaker 4: images of Raquel on Sandoval's shoulders. There's an old episode
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  Speaker 4: of where Ariana says how they first fell in love
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  Speaker 4: and went to Coachella together. And she knew it was
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  Speaker 4: special when Sandoval said, here, get on my shoulders. Like
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  Speaker 4: it is just, so I think someone saw the two
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  Speaker 4: of them kiss, mixed up the last names as I
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  Speaker 4: often do. And then I think Sandoval kind of said,
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  Speaker 4: you know, since this is the narrative that's floating around
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  Speaker 4: the fans that you got together with Schwartz, now that
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  Speaker 4: we're filming and it's summertime, why don't you pursue Schwartz?
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  Speaker 4: And then I think he told Schwartz, which Schwartz has
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  Speaker 4: also said in an interview, Sandoval made me make out
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  Speaker 4: with her. And I think Schwartz was just hoodwinked for
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  Speaker 4: a while. And so I think he's devastated. They caught
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  Speaker 4: him at the airport and he said, you know, he's
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  Speaker 4: careful about what he's saying. And they said, how do you,
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  Speaker 4: how do you think Sandoval's feeling? And he's like, I
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  Speaker 4: think he's feeling like a piece of shit as he should.
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  Speaker 4: And they were both scheduled to go on Winterhouse.
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  Speaker 2: It is my opinion.
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  Speaker 4: And I believe that Schwartz is going to Winterhouse and
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  Speaker 4: Sandoval is not. And this is just all me talking
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  Speaker 4: as someone who's just, you know, in seeing stuff. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So don't hold me to it.
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  Speaker 4: And so anyway, it was Everyone had fun.
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  Speaker 2: It was about the kids. It was really fun.
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  Speaker 4: And what was also really great is that Ocean's sisters
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  Speaker 4: were there. And so was Amber, who is He Who
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  Speaker 4: Shall Not Be Named's first wife. So these are Ocean's
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  Speaker 4: sisters and they were there. And here's a photo of
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  Speaker 4: Amber and Lala and all three girls. And they were
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  Speaker 4: so cute and playing with ocean. So it was really,
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  Speaker 4: really fun to watch that. It was just very low
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  Speaker 4: key and all the people in her life that matter.
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  Speaker 4: So I was really happy to be there. I love
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  Speaker 4: that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And, um, it was really fun. So then the next day, um, okay,
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  Speaker 2: let's see.
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  Speaker 4: So the next day I went to the Beverly Hills
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  Speaker 4: hotel because Jill Zarin was staying at the Beverly Hills
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  Speaker 4: hotel because she got invited to to these Oscar parties, which.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to hear all about.
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  Speaker 4: So I tried to wear an outfit that worked with
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  Speaker 4: the pink and green aesthetic of the Beverly Hills Hotel.
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  Speaker 4: And here I am looking cute. So that was really fun.
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  Speaker 4: Then I read that Cher, who is dating A.E. He,
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  Speaker 4: of course, is Amber Rose's former boyfriend and father of
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  Speaker 4: her second child.
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  Speaker 2: They have been dating. There's a 40-year age difference, I think. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: 40 years.
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  Speaker 4: And people are saying that Cher's $ 360 million fortune is
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  Speaker 4: dwindling as she, 76-year-old, splurges on the boy toy AE,
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  Speaker 4: friends claim. Well, obviously, I'm very close to them because
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  Speaker 4: then Cher lent me her Oscar outfit. And Peter and
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  Speaker 4: I went to the Oscars that night. I thank God
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  Speaker 4: I've been dieting and I could wear this outfit. No,
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  Speaker 4: this is a great girl named Heather Fakes It, and
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  Speaker 4: she does really great, fun photoshopping for me. Unfortunately, I
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  Speaker 4: did not get to go to the Oscars, but I
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  Speaker 4: came home and watched them. And then as you're going
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  Speaker 4: to hear, it gets the scoop from Jill, who was
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  Speaker 4: in the thick of it. So let's just do some fashion.
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  Speaker 4: I absolutely loved, loved Halle Bailey, who is the new princess.
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  Speaker 2: She is Ariel. I loved her dress.
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  Speaker 4: She's a young, beautiful girl, and she wore such a
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  Speaker 4: gorgeous blue flowy dress. It was perfect for her persona
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  Speaker 4: as a princess and it was perfect for her age
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  Speaker 4: and she looks stunning and it was modern, but not
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  Speaker 4: showing too much. There's a lot of cutouts and a
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  Speaker 4: lot of see-through, which I was not a fan of.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well, killing it was Cara Delevingne, who.
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  Speaker 4: Is a model and she's beautiful, but remember we saw
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  Speaker 4: her like strung out and people were worried about her.
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  Speaker 4: She has admitted that she was struggling with drugs and
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  Speaker 4: alcohol and And it looks like she is doing so
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  Speaker 4: much better. And she wore the kind of Oscar dress
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  Speaker 4: that I would want to wear.
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  Speaker 2: Stunning red, one great leg.
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  Speaker 4: If you've got a great leg, one or two, but
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  Speaker 4: you only need one.
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  Speaker 2: She stuck it out.
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  Speaker 4: I love that she did a red strappy sandal with
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  Speaker 4: it and jewels and like one sleeve. So it was
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  Speaker 4: flowy and it was big, but it was not overwhelming.
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  Speaker 4: And of course she's stunning. So she looked, and I
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  Speaker 4: love that there was a pocket involved.
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  Speaker 2: So great. This was awful. Florence Pugh from Don't Worry Darling.
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  Speaker 2: The worst.
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  Speaker 4: Basically, she wore black shorts with pockets like that you'd,
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  Speaker 4: you know, get from Alice and Olivia or whatever, like
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  Speaker 4: real short shorts. And then put it with some like
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  Speaker 4: high black platform pumps and then took like her duvet
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  Speaker 4: cover off of her bed and took the blanket out
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  Speaker 4: of it and then wrapped it around herself.
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  Speaker 2: And then when she presented, she made sure she had
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  Speaker 2: her hand in her pocket. It was really weird. And again,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Your legs aren't that great. We didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: They're fine. They're fine. You have a gorgeous face.
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  Speaker 4: But if your leg is not like your greatest asset
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  Speaker 4: on your body, I don't think we have to see
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  Speaker 4: an Oscar night. I think what's great about a big,
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  Speaker 4: fancy red carpet is that, you know, you show off
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  Speaker 4: the parts that are great.
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  Speaker 2: It's not bad. It's just not your best. You compare
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  Speaker 2: the legs.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, there's Kara's leg, and then there's her leg. We
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  Speaker 4: didn't need to see your leg. Then we have Ashley Graham,
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  Speaker 4: who is a gorgeous model. She was interviewing on the
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  Speaker 4: red carpet, which I'll get into.
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  Speaker 2: She did really well.
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  Speaker 4: This picture is really cool from page six, but again,
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  Speaker 4: I did not like this outfit that much. Too many cutouts,
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  Speaker 4: and she did the trend that everyone's doing where you
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  Speaker 4: just wear like a pair of black underwear and it's sheer,
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  Speaker 4: like what you'd wear at the pool.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not into it.
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  Speaker 4: No matter what your body type is, I don't think
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  Speaker 4: this is a look for the red carpet. But she
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  Speaker 4: did really well in her interviewing, especially because she had
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  Speaker 4: to interview a Hugh Grant. And it was so awkward
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  Speaker 4: and cringy. I saw it and I just, she was
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  Speaker 4: trying so hard. So he comes up, now listen, like
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  Speaker 4: she's probably got an earbud in too. So she's probably
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  Speaker 4: getting some help from a producer. But if he comes
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  Speaker 4: with a mic given from the, like he's ready to talk, right?
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  Speaker 2: So she's doing all she's supposed to do.
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  Speaker 4: So she says, Hugh Grant, you're a veteran of the
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  Speaker 4: Oscars and you've been here a few times. What's your
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  Speaker 4: favorite thing about coming to the Oscars? And he's like,
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  Speaker 4: already annoyed.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 4: And he's like, uh, well, it's fascinating. The whole humanity
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  Speaker 4: is here. It's Vanity Fair.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Like, like he's like, who doesn't get to go here?
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  Speaker 4: Well, a lot of people don't. So then she says,
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  Speaker 4: what are you most excited to see the night? Are
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  Speaker 4: you excited to see anyone win? Your hopes up for anyone? No,
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  Speaker 4: no one in particular. Anyone that's ever taken an improv class,
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  Speaker 4: this guy would fail it. It's like this is the
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  Speaker 4: opposite of yes and add some information.
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  Speaker 2: She goes on, keeps trying. Well, what are we wearing
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  Speaker 2: tonight then? Grant, just my suit. Your suit? Well, who
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  Speaker 2: made it? You didn't make it. She's trying so hard.
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  Speaker 2: My tailor.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: At this point, I'd be like, all right, fucker, you
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  Speaker 2: go have fun. But she keeps trying. Shout out to
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  Speaker 2: the tailor.
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  Speaker 4: What does it feel like to be in Glass Onion?
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  Speaker 4: It was such an amazing film. I really loved it.
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  Speaker 4: I loved a thriller.
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  Speaker 2: How fun is it to shoot something like that?
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  Speaker 5: Grant.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm barely in it. I'm in it for about
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  Speaker 2: three seconds. Okay, bitter Betty. Like, really?
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  Speaker 4: Then she goes on. But still, you showed up and
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  Speaker 4: you had fun, right? And he's like, ugh, almost.
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  Speaker 2: Thank God. She's like, well, you go have a good time.
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  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 4: I loved the moment because it was awkward and she
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  Speaker 4: just kept going. So she can do she should do
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  Speaker 4: the red carpet every year for the Oscars.
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  Speaker 2: She did a great job. Just wasn't in love with
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  Speaker 2: the dress.
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  Speaker 4: OK, so moving on. I didn't love Jennifer Connelly's dress. She,
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  Speaker 4: of course, is in Top Gun. It's almost like she
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  Speaker 4: had this black strapless dress, not strapless, but it was
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  Speaker 4: like a bar that went like across the boobs and
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  Speaker 4: over the arms. And then she just added like a
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  Speaker 4: piece of cardboard with some jewels on it.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was weird. Sorry, I thought it was weird.
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  Speaker 4: Now, Mindy Kaling has really had a glow up and
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  Speaker 4: she looks absolutely gorgeous. She's lost a lot of weight.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know how she lost the weight. And her
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  Speaker 4: face is like definitely better than what it was on
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  Speaker 4: The Office. And I'm reading some of the comments and
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  Speaker 4: people are just like kind of, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people that are just not thrilled.
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  Speaker 2: That this girl is now gorgeous. And I just want
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  Speaker 2: to say, I am.
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  Speaker 4: Because Mindy Kaling is super talented, super funny, really nice.
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  Speaker 4: And she had a glow up. Like, you know, there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people that are gorgeous from the time
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  Speaker 4: they were born and have style and everything. And they
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  Speaker 4: become rich because they are gorgeous and people hand them
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  Speaker 4: stuff and they get married or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: They marry rich and they.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 4: What's wrong with being so successful and rich that you
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  Speaker 4: can also help buy some of the glow up and
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  Speaker 4: the beauty? So I'm saying, look, has she had some
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  Speaker 4: work done?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Has she lost some weight? We don't know how. Who cares?
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  Speaker 2: She deserves to enjoy her hard work.
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  Speaker 4: And look freaking hot and have this time as a
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  Speaker 4: young mother who is rocking abs everywhere. and cheekbones and
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  Speaker 4: lips and a better nose and all of it. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm all here for it. The one thing I'm not
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  Speaker 4: here for is that she got to wear two outfits,
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  Speaker 4: one on the red carpet where she wore white, which
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  Speaker 4: I thought looked stunning on her. And then she did
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  Speaker 4: the exact same dress in black, the exact same cutout style.
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  Speaker 4: And I just kind of was like, I don't know, girl,
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  Speaker 4: like you should have done a different one.
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  Speaker 2: That's my opinion, but she looks good. This girl, what
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  Speaker 2: is her name?
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  Speaker 6: 10.
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  Speaker 2: Tem, Tem, T-E-M.
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  Speaker 4: And she sang the movie, she sang the song in
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  Speaker 4: Black Panther. And she is a stunning girl as well
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  Speaker 4: as really being a great singer. But she had this
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  Speaker 4: like big white outfit on and it kind of came
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  Speaker 4: up behind her head, not a hat, but like a
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  Speaker 4: collar that went all the way up to over her head.
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  Speaker 4: And then she sat in the audience all night. She
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  Speaker 4: didn't change her outfit. And this would have been when
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  Speaker 4: I would have said, what would have worked is if
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  Speaker 4: it was like a removable thing or something, or you
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  Speaker 4: had a whole nother dress for the show, like change
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  Speaker 4: with your brother. Because people were definitely talking about, hate
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  Speaker 4: to be the father next to Tebbs in the Oscar
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  Speaker 4: audience fighting for his life.
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  Speaker 2: So they hate to be the brother next to him.
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  Speaker 4: So one person next to her couldn't see, the person,
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  Speaker 4: a couple of people behind her couldn't see. You definitely
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  Speaker 4: weren't thinking about sitting there. Jimmy Kimmel then did his opening,
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  Speaker 4: which I thought was really, really good. There were some
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  Speaker 4: edgy moments. He brought up Will Smith. He brought up L.
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  Speaker 2: Ron Hubbard.
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  Speaker 4: He talked about how Tom Cruise and James Cameron didn't come,
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  Speaker 4: even though they begged people to come to the movie
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  Speaker 4: theaters and then they couldn't sit through a three and
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  Speaker 4: a half hour show. But the reason Tom Cruise wasn't
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  Speaker 4: there is that he is doing Mission Impossible 8 overseas.
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  Speaker 2: I still think if you wanted to come, It's Mission
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  Speaker 2: Impossible 8. You're the star. You're the producer.
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  Speaker 4: You could have said, for these four days, we're going
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  Speaker 4: to shut down production so I can go to the Oscars.
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  Speaker 4: He just didn't want to go. He doesn't care, and
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  Speaker 4: he didn't want to go for whatever reason. Maybe because,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he didn't want to be in any weird situation.
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  Speaker 4: Nicole Kidman was there, his ex, too. Not that there's
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  Speaker 4: any weirdness between them, but I think there probably is. So...
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  Speaker 4: I thought he did a really good job. However, there
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  Speaker 4: really wasn't any other comedy throughout the rest of the night.
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  Speaker 4: No presenters did any jokes. It was just his monologue,
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  Speaker 4: which I think was really good writing, and he did
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  Speaker 4: a good job. But other than that, however, the ratings
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  Speaker 4: were up from last year and was the most of
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  Speaker 4: all the award show season, which obviously it's the biggest one,
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  Speaker 4: so it would be. So then Angela Bassett was up
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  Speaker 4: against for Best Supporting Actress 2019.
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  Speaker 2: Jamie Lee Curtis.
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  Speaker 4: And when she did not win and the camera was
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  Speaker 4: on her, she couldn't fight her disappointment, which I look, I,
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  Speaker 4: I always thought it was so weird when I was
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  Speaker 4: a little girl, how, how happy you had.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: To be for that.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: He deserved it. No, she wasn't happy. And she was like,
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: she did not like that. She always looks gorgeous. She
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: was in this purple color, Jamie Lee, who does kind
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: of bug me this award season, which I love that
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: SNL made fun of her on Saturday. Um, That Chloe,
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: who is such a brilliant impersonator on the show, did her.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: And it's just like that enthusiasm and like, I am.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: But I do believe she is that excited.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: I don't need to see her on Real Housewives of
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: Beverly Hills anymore or anything like that. But I'm glad
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: she won. And her speech was very, very giving. She's like, everybody,
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: this is, we won an Oscar, all of the cast,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: all of this, all of that. thanked her parents too,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: recognizing she's a Nepo baby, recognizing her kids and her husband. So,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: and she looked pretty. So I say, yes, she did well.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: And then Michael B. Jordan and Jonathan Majors, they came
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: out to present. And the first thing they said was like, hi, auntie,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: or something like that, kind of recognizing to Angela Bassett
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: that like, you should have won. And we're just going
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: to throw that out there. And that went, that was
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: viral and trending on Twitter. But God, my God, she
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: looks so good in this purple dress. Look, I mean,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: she is just beyond stunning. And her necklace, oh, everything.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: Then this is when I was compelled to do a
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: TikTok and a reel and a stories. Not until this
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: point of watching the show by myself. So I saw
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Lady Gaga come out on the red carpet and her
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: body's banging. And she wore this kind of interesting dress
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: that is basically showing the whole butt. So it's like
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: in the front, it's this black corset and sheerness. And
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: then it goes all the way just so you see
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: full like ass crack, but there is like a cover
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: of the ass crack.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Kind of weird in the back. And I'm showing it here. Very,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: very weird. It's almost like, you know, when.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Guys wear their pants like past their butt cheeks. But
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: her body's banging and she looked gorgeous. And she had
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: a full, full face of makeup and her hair back
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: in a French braid. So then she comes to sing
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: this song and she's wearing a black t-shirt and ripped
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: jeans and she's got her band and she does great
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: speech about like being your own hero. And then I'm like, oh,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: first of all, she is stunning.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: She looks great. She has beautiful skin.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: She completely washed off her makeup. I mean, washed off
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: every eyelash, didn't even do a tint and moisturizer, had
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: like chapped lips, didn't even do like a Vaseline.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Okay. Just complete raw.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: And all I'm just thinking about is, like, you were
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: just in the audience during the Jimmy Kimmel.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: You had to run.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: And everyone's like, what makeup wipes did you use? Because
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: it usually takes me... If I do a full face
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: of makeup, I wash off my face. Then I do
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: a wipe. Then I do, like, another, like, little other wipe.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: And I'm still getting makeup off. So, I mean, it
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: took a lot to get it off.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: And.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: I thought she looked great. I just thought it was
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: really brave and really different. And it totally makes sense.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Because in the past, when she's performed, like, I think
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: she performed when Star is Born was up. You know,
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: she had her big, gorgeous gown. She was all done up.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: And so... however she felt to choose this of like,
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: this doesn't, I want this song to be this, or
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: I really want to show this gritty side of me,
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: or it's kind of great because everyone got to see
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: you drop dead gorgeous for this. And then we get
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: to see you in this like rock and roll raw way. However,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: I would not take off that beat face that took
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: three hours. And I'm the first to admit that I wouldn't.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: So kudos to you, girl. Um, yeah, here you can
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: see her makeup and everything.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: So Um, okay.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Then Kate Chastain looks stunning with her long red hair
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: and her dress. And Halle Berry came out to present, um,
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: for best actress. And I did not like Halle Berry's hair.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: It was like covering her eye and she has a
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: perfect face. So I never want to see anything cover
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: your face and her body is banging and she does
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: have a great leg, but again, it was cutouts.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: And then it was like this white outfit.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: And then it just felt like someone went to Michael's
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: and just threw some flowers in some random places that
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: weren't meant to be there. So not my favorite Halle
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Berry look, but it was really beautiful that.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Michelle Yeoh won for Everything Everywhere.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: That was nominated 11 times, won seven Oscars, Best Supporting Actress,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Best Supporting Actor, and Best Actress. I think for screenplay,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: it was... I did not see it. A few of
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: my friends said they couldn't get into it. But Brandon,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: my 17 year old, loved it. He watched it on
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: the plane ride from our Christmas vacation. And so I
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: do think what's kind of cool is now I do
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: want to go back and watch it. And I think
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: that it is kind of for a younger generation, which
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: is what some movies need to be catering more to,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: to get people like extra interested in it.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: So it was great. And of course, she's an Asian woman.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: She is an older woman. She's an immigrant. And like,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I think That was really special.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: And what I loved is at the end of her speech,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: she said to all the women out there, don't let
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: anyone tell you that you're past your prime, which I
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: don't know what's going on with Don Lemon, but let's
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: just all remember.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: That he's a huge dick, okay?
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: He's just not a fan of him anymore. So she
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: did wonderful and people were cheering for her and she's beautiful.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Nicole Kidman looked absolutely gorgeous and she was making out
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: with Keith. urban all over and was unapologetic about it. Um,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: good for them. I mean, you know, they, they're making
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: it work. They've been married a long time. So, but
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: it was a little weird, the makeouts, a lot of
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: see-through stuff. I'm just going to go through all these girls. Um,
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: this girl, I mean, full VAD showing, I mean, she
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: has a nude like Spanx underneath, but like, it's a
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: lot of nakedness, a lot of naked dresses, a lot
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: of sheer dresses.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And not with just.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Like a bikini top and almost like half your dress
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: is missing.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Who's this chick again? Olivia Wilde. I mean, I don't know.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, people want to be talked about. So
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: just a lot of sheer stuff.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: That I'm not into. Full ass out.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, I just saw page six was
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: following Blac Chyna. And Blac Chyna is at a plastic
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: surgeon's office right now to get her butt taken down.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: And she said.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: This is not a product of a BBL. A BBL
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: is where you get your own fat removed from parts
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: of your body you don't want and put in your ass.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: She got silicone filler in her ass starting at 19.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: And she's going into a new direction, a smaller ass direction.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: And she is getting that removed.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: And she highly recommends that you do not do filler
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: in your ass, only your own fat in your ass.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: So that's a public service announcement.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Black China.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: So now here is my interview with Jill Zarin. I
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: had to get her on the phone as she's heading
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: to LAX to go home to New York. But if
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: you're watching this on YouTube, which I hope you are,
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: we have photos of all, everything that we covered, as
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: well as what Jill and I are going to cover.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: You're going to see all her photos and different outfits
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: that we discuss. So please subscribe to YouTube, subscribe and share.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Just go to YouTube, type in Juicy Scoop or Heather MacDonald.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Follow me there.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: And thank you.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: And let's listen to more of the Juicy Scoop from
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: The Biggest Night in Hollywood with Jill Zara.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: for it? This exclusive place that Dad has connections with.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: They have more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: It's Dune ADL.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: Where?
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Dune ADL. There's an accent on the E. Do you mean.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Lift, please. Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: No.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: filed against me.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: what would you do if it was given back?
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: home dad. What happens next? When I came in, he
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: started crying.
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: those hard moments that they go through.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: It's about what happens next.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I realized how valuable every day was.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: You're worth the work. Listen, Dara, I'm not going to
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: pull punches.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: Jel Zarin, fresh from the Oscars, the 95th Oscars. Girl,
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: we were together at the Beverly Hills Hotel while you
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: were getting ready. I told you to do your hair
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: up like Pamela Anderson. It looked really good.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Amazing.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: He did a great job. I would totally give you
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: his phone number if you need him. He's amazing.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, so tell us a little bit how you got
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: invited to the party, what party you went to, when
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: you left.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Just go for it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Okay. So some friends of mine from Texas invited us
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: to the Elton John party. They're big donors, and they
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: actually put the best table in the room. There's probably
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: like 1,000 people there. I don't know how many tables
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: and sections. We were literally in front of the microphone,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: like literally the first table in front of the stage.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Behind us was everybody else, like Book Shield was behind us.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Not that it was a bad table. It was just
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: a lazy table. And Heidi Klum was at her table
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: behind us. It was the thickest table. So that's like
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: how you start the night. Okay, wait.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: So I just, I just, wait, I just want to
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: be clear for the people.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: So you were with the Sutton of the night who
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: bought the table cause she's a big donor and you
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Jill's there to a housewife are, are not going to
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: say that Elton John personally invited you or that you paid, correct?
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I did not pay. I paid compliments and I paid thanks. Okay.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: So you leave the Beverly Hills Hotel with your friends,
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: you go in a big car, and you go to
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: where is the.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: The biggest car. They have this fancy, like the fanciest,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: what do they call them? Not an Escalade. They're bigger.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: What do they call them?
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: It's fine.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Anyway, the big car that has TVs and all this stuff.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: And did you bring your dog, Bossy?
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: You know what? I did not. I know. I know.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: I think, I think it's appropriate that the dog did
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: not come.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: So you, um, you have to leave at three and
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: where do you, where does it drop you off at
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: the dinner at the, at the party where you now
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: are going to watch the Oscars on a big screen
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: and have dinner?
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: So it's in West Hollywood. Don't ask me where, but
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: it was like a parking lot that they turned into
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: a big tented thing. So it wasn't a building. It
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: was literally a built building out of tents. And there
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: were multiple tents. Okay.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: So you get out of the car, you do, you
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: do the red carpet first.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Do the, uh, pretty long red carpet. You know, no, no,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: actually there was a step and repeat, a short step
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: and repeat. And then there was a long red carpet.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: So I did both and it was great. I did
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: some interviews with E and, and some other, you know, outlets. Um,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: but listen, I, I'm not the star there, right? First
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: of all, I'm not a star at all, but, It's
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: not TV. This is movies. This is the Oscars. So
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: they're looking for the people who'll be nominated or former
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: winners and things like that.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but nobody at three.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: So if anybody even interviewed me, I was flattered.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: So there were some former, like, Oscar people there, but
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: obviously they didn't. Because I would think if I was
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: not being nominated and it had been a long time
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: or whatever, I would rather go to something like this
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: and enjoy watching the show than being stuck in the
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Dolby Theater.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Well, I hate to tell you, you're not invited. In
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: other words, like somebody who's not nominated just because they
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: were nominated 10 years ago, they couldn't go if they
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: wanted to go.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I know I'm not invited.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: No, no. Every seat in the Oscars has a reason.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: And then most of it's people who are being nominated
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: and their families and tickets and sponsors and all this
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: other stuff. So listen, I'm sure if you're a winner,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: all the winners get asked back to present. So there's
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of presenters there. But I mean, someone who
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: was on 20 years ago couldn't even go if they
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: wanted to go. But anyway, you wouldn't want to go.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Like I said, some of the, would you go to
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: the Oscars? Honestly, if I'm not nominated, why?
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Okay, your dress that you borrowed was a gorgeous couture,
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: a completely beaded dress, but I held it and it
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: was about 30 pounds.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: How was that on your body all night? How uncomfortable
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: were you?
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: You know what? I was fine, comfortable, fine, except it
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: started to bother me. I still have it. It looks
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: like I hung myself. I literally have a mark. I'll
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: show you a picture. I have a scab now forming
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: on my neck. It looks like I got choked by
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: a rope. Because the metal started to, I was on
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: it for eight hours. It started to hang on my shoulders,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: my neck. It started to cut into me. But it
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: was heavy, but I was okay.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I was okay. So you get it? Vanity Fair, I
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: had it with both my shoes. It's funny. There's a
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: picture going around the world of Daily Mail of the
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: winner of the supporting actor Oscar. And they have a
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: picture of him shoving down in an outboard for holding
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: the Oscar. And guess who's right behind him? Moi, with
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: my shoes off. And I didn't even know it. Like,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not, it's not even a photobomb. I'm like, hey,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: I'm here. But you know what you didn't?
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: You didn't wear your red Jimmy Choo shoes. I saw
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: you chose white.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Why? I didn't because I didn't want attention to the feet.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I wanted attention to the dress. Okay.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: So you get into the place and what's happening first?
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: The cocktail hour walk around schmooze? Who do you talk to?
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: At the cocktail hour, there weren't too many celebrities. I
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: ran into Chris Schell. From selling Sunset. And I was
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: with her for a little while talking. Who else did
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: I meet in the beginning? Not many. So I got
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: some good pictures taken of me there. That was great.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: And then Elton John has a glass, sunglass line. So
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: he had this like 360 thing. I don't want to
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: stand in line for it, but I see some people did.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: And then that was about an hour, an hour and
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: a half. I probably got there too early, but we
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: didn't know. So we got there at, let's say, four
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: or whatever. We probably didn't have to get there until five.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was no food. It was very little food.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I'm all about the food. I don't drink, but there's
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: no food.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: So there's no past apps, but there was a sit
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: down dinner, right?
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: There were, but it was not, you know, easily found.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: I did fine, but not easy. Okay. But it was fine.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Then we go into the main room. And like I said,
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: there's a hundred tables, gigantic. And it's beautifully set up.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: And they have, I took home like the, I can
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: send you pictures of it. I think I posted ticket
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: and the menu and the book and the whole thing.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: And they had a hundred like TVs all around the
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: room and big screens so you could watch the Oscars.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: And actually what was so nice is you could speak
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: during the Oscars. It was no problem. Nobody would shush you.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: So now you're at your great table. I saw that Kyle, Mauricio, Dorit,
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: what was happening at the Real Housewives?
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: This is what's interesting. What's very funny is they were
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: two front rows. Elton John was in the middle table.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: And then on the other side of him was the
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: housewife's table. And it was Diana Jenkins sponsored the event.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: She looked beautiful. I met her for the first time
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: in person. I asked her if she had a baby
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: because I hadn't followed up with her. And she did.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: She had a baby. She had a little girl. Because
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I think she was trying to have a baby the
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: last time we saw her, right?
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: No, I think she... Wait a minute. Can you look up, Annie,
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: what is Diana Jenkins' pregnancy thing? I think she got
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: pregnant with a second one.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We're going to look it up. Anyway.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: That's my point, right? You don't know either. You're the expert.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know either. So I asked her. I hope
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: I wasn't putting my foot in my mouth because I
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: know she had had a miscarriage, I think. So I said,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: did you have a baby? And she said, yes.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: She had, okay.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: She had a miscarriage since the baby that she had.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: So maybe you shouldn't have asked. Anyway, who cares? It's okay.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: No, anyway, it doesn't matter.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: The point is, she was so nice and so warm.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: And I asked her, so listen, the host who brought me,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: my friend Amber Louise, who Such a class act. Beautiful.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: You met her yesterday. Looked absolutely drop dead in this
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Gucci couture. Like God knows it was probably 30 grand.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I have no idea what it was, but it was
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: ridiculously beautiful. And I have to tell you, she was
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: the star of the room in terms of outfits. Like
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: everybody was looking at her and she wanted to meet celebrities.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Of course she did. So anybody we would meet or whatever,
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: she may be like, I've been, I've been looking at
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: your dress the whole night, you know, and it just
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: made her feel so good. I have to say, outfit
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: of the night goes to, okay, Lisa Rinna. In couture,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: I forgot his name. Not Valentino.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I saw that outfit.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: But Galeano, Galeano. I think it's Galeano, but don't kill
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong. It was the sickest thing. First
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: of all, her body is, I hate her. Her hair
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: is beautiful. I know they were doing something about her
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: hair in France. Her hair was gorgeous and thick and,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: you know, gorgeous. And she gave me like the nicest compliment,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: I have to tell you.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: What did she say?
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: She was sitting down when I said hello. And she
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: said to her husband, Harry Hamlin, who's like, oh, my God, says,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: this is Jill Zarin. She's the OG of the OG.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: She said that. And I was like, I'm going to die.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: And he gave me a big smile. And then she ended.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: And then that's a plug, right? Then she says to him,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: all our outdoor rugs are from her. And he's like, oh,
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: my God, I love those rugs. And I said, well,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: if you need more, just call me. JillZarinRugs.com. I have
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: the rugs. It's the season. Anyway, she loved my rugs.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: She had them on the show. I disagree with her.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: I disagree with your opinion of her outfit. I thought,
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: I know it's probably couture and this and that. I
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: thought it was so confusing and weird because it looks
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: like you took... It looks like you took the dress
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: out of your closet and held it up against yourself
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: to see how it would look.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: On a hanger.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: So you saw, yeah.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: That's what it was supposed to be.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I know it was supposed to be that.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's for coutures, right?
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: That's something weird.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: You know. All right.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, she wants to be.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: What are you going to wear at the Oscars? Sorry.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: When would you wear that? When would you wear a
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: couture like that?
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: But the thing, she's smart because she wants to be
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: talked about. And if she just wore like a beautiful
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: black strapless dress that like where she looks stunning and beautiful,
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: no one would talk about it.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Like Kyle looks stunning and beautiful. I don't remember the dress.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Like I'll never forget
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: what Lisa Rinna wore. And by the way, what you
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: don't see is the back. The back of her body,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: it's completely naked. I don't know how it stayed on her.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: I think the sleeves must keep it on. There was
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: nothing on her back from the top to the bottom
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: and the most gorgeous back.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I know, she doesn't have like any, no back fat.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Nothing, no body fat. But not bony. She's not bony.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: It was like a perfect back. Her hands she had
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: in gloves and at the tips of the fingers were like,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: you know when you knit, what are those metal things called?
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Thumbnails.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: You know, on all the fingers. It was like these
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: metal tips on the fingernails, on the fingers of the gloves.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: And she showed it to me. She's like, look at
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: these gloves. It was just, you know, you wear it once.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: So wait, so was... And who could wear that?
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: You could wear it. By the way, you could wear that.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: I can tell.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Stop.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: I have to get the questions out because I know
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: you have to catch a plane. So at Diana Jenkins' table,
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: it was Lisa Renna and Harry Hamlin, Kyle and Mauricio,
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Dorit and PK.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Who else?
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: PK lost 30 pounds.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: PK lost 30.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, I asked him. He said 30.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Did you ask him if he's on the shots?
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I did not. I would not be that rude.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be that rude.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Was that it? Was it tables of 10 or tables
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: of 8?
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: That was it. So it was, wait.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: So Diane, Rina, Kyle, Doreen. There's got to be one more.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: There's got to be one more.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Well, Diana, Lisa, Doreen, and Kyle, 8. 8 people.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: But I thought it was tables of 10. Now hers
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: was a table of 8.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Well, their table was 8, yeah. Okay. Okay. And they
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: were next to Elton John's table, and Elton actually gave
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: her a shout-out on the stage.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Nice.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: So they are clear. When she said that she's friends
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: with him, she's friends with him. Like, you know, some
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: people lie. She's not lying.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: So who else did you talk to at that section
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: before the Oscars ended?
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Okay, so Brooke Shields was sitting behind us, and she
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: was so sweet because my friend actually named her daughter
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Brooke after Brooke Shields, which I thought was really sweet.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: And she voted on me, which was in a sweet way.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: She like stuck her tongue out in the picture I
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: took of me and Gary, like a selfie. She was
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: so cute. Oh, I went over to a viewer, a
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: white orchid, white, white, white, what?
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: White orchid, yeah.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: White orchid fan, which I am. White locust.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, white lotus. White locust. No, White Lotus.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: White Lotus, something. Michael Imperio from Sopranos. I went over
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: to say hello to him and he was standing with,
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know her name.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Right, the Italian manager. The Italian manager.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Correct. And I went over and said hello to her
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: and they could not have been nicer. And I asked
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: them if they know where the next show is and
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: they don't. I talked about the hotel. She said it
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: sold out for three years, you know, and it was
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: like amazing. They were so nice. I mean, listen, when
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: you're in an event like that, and as I was
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: trying to explain to Emily, is that the celebrities there
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: know they're being photographed. They have the hair and makeup on.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: They expect it. They're okay with it. You don't have
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: to be, you know, shy. If you want to ask
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: for a picture, they're not going to be mad at you.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Heidi Klum could not have been nicer. People came over,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: asked for a picture. She got up in her big
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: yellow thing. I can't even describe what it was. It
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: looked like a ray of sunshine. And she is such
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: a beauty. I was looking at her from my table. Like,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: she's just so beautiful. Her nose is perfect. Every feature.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Who else was there? There's a famous actress sitting with
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: my friend named Lisa Waters, and she's the star of
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: a huge show.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Lisa Ann Walters of Abbott Elementary. yes i know her
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: that's it.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Right right exactly what do i say kindergarten.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: It's fine okay okay anyone else get to.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: The next party anybody else that stands out at that
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: party Not really that I remember. No, but a lot
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: of rich people because the bidding was going crazy. Like,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: you know, $ 150, 000.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: And what were they bidding on? What kind of stuff
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: gets donated to bid on?
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: So my friend bought, it was funny, two of my
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: friends were bidding against each other.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, so then you go to the after party, which
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: is what?
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, I didn't stay for the after party. Oh,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: so what happened was my friend, something that they bid on,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Last year went for $ 200, 000. Two tickets to the Vanity
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Fair after party. Last year sold for $ 200, 000. And by
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: the way, you don't go there until 1030 because it's
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: already 10 o'clock. The Oscars are over. My friends bought it. $ 80, 000.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: And my friend's husband, David, said he didn't want to
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: go and that she should go with me. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: I'm going to sleep. You know, I'm tired. You guys go.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: And he wouldn't go. So I'm like, OK, force me.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go to the battery fair party. So
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: I got my mind set off on not going to
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: sleep early. And we went.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God, Heather, I went to the battery fair party.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: So wait, so you bail on Gary and the rest
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: of the group, which I'm sure they didn't mind.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, well, they went home. They went back to the hotel.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: So you know what we missed? Whatever concert went on after,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: I got to find out what happened. You can't be
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: in two places at once. But I wasn't the only
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: one who left. I ran into Donatella. Versace was there.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Brooke Shields was there. A lot of people from our
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: party went there. The celebrities went there. The non-celebrities didn't.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: So what was at the Vanity Fair party?
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: Go.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Well, this is the difference between the two parties. Elton
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: John is very expensive, but you can go. You can
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: pay to go. You can pay to play. Vanity Fair,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: you cannot pay to play. In this case, yes, $ 80, 000,
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: you got two tickets. But you cannot pay to play there.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: I don't care how rich you are. Vanity Fair, if
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: you're not a celebrity, you're not A-list, you're not getting in.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: And that's what makes the difference. Everybody there is somebody.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: I walk in, Jeff Bezos, say hello. Walk right up
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: to him. Jeff, Jill Darren, Real Housewives. He knew exactly
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: who I was. He was with his beautiful girlfriend. Lauren Sanchez.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: She had a huge ring on. Big smile. I talked
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: to him about a couple of business things that I
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: can't share and moved on. Then I ran into Steven Spielberg.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Went right up to him. Steven, I don't know if
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: you know me. Of course I know you. I said,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm your neighbor. I live in State Harbor.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: You're in East Hampton. We talked, I thanked him for
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: the Shoah Foundation, all the good he's doing for the
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Jewish community and preserving the Holocaust memories. If you don't
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: know what Shoah is, look it up. The preservation of
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: the older people who are dying off the Holocaust survivors.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: He recorded all of them over the last 20 years
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: so that there's a memory forever. He did it himself,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: his own money. Unbelievable. I told him how much I
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: loved his movie and, you know, the story of his life.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: It was great. Then I walked up to Elvis. I
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: don't know his real name. Elvis. Right. Who played Elvis.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Austin Butler.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: So adorable. Took pictures with him. The best picture of
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: all is as I was starting to leave, the guy
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: who wants the best supporting actor for the Everything movie
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: was holding his Oscar. And he had a burger in
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: his hand. So he had a burger in one hand,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: in his mouth practically, and holding the Oscar. I said,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: don't move. I have to take a picture so you
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: can keep eating. I got a picture with him. But
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: then I didn't know somebody photobombed me behind him before
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: I went over to him, which is hysterical without my
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: shoes on. I literally took my shoes off when I
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: got there. I couldn't walk anymore. And my dress was
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: so heavy. Kate Hudson had a 10-minute conversation with her.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: I ran into Kathy Hilton.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Wait, what was the Kate Hudson? Wait, what was the
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Kate Hudson convo?
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, so the girlfriend I'm with, Amberlee, actually had lunch
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: with her mother the other day about a charity thing
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: that they're both working on. So we talked about that.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Because I said, you know, I said, Kate knows who
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: I am. I've met her before. I met her at
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: the Tiffany thing. I met her at a few things.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: I said, Kate, I don't want to bother you, but
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: my friend Emily just had lunch with your mother yesterday.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: And she was like, oh my God. And, you know,
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: it was like a beautiful thing. It was. And she,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: I think that dress last night at Vanity Fair was
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Kate Hudson in a pink. It wasn't, I thought it
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: was Valentino. It wasn't. She told me who it was
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: and I can't remember. A designer I didn't know.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, so she, so she changed outfits because she was
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: wearing like a silver dress at the Oscars.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: She changed. Yeah, I didn't like that dress. I didn't
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: like the silver dress.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: It was whatever. It was fine.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: She should have worn. No, she should have won the
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Pink Dress. Whatever. She's dropped dead. It doesn't matter.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Okay, so then you see Kathy Hilton at Vanity Fair.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: So were there any other housewives besides you and Kathy
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: Hilton at Vanity Fair?
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: No, and Kathy's not a housewife. According to Kathy, she's
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: not on the show right now.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: That's what she said?
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know that. Yeah.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: What else did she say?
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that she won't be. About that, that's it.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Anything else I don't want to talk about. But yeah,
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: nothing else. But yeah, no. I mean, I don't think
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: it's a secret in that world. But yeah, she might
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: be on it, but I'm just saying right now.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Was Paris there?
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Paris was not there when I did not see her
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: and I didn't see any pictures of her.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: So who was Kathy with? Who was Kathy's plus one?
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: She was by herself when I saw her and I
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: spoke to her. And then when I ran into Nikki,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: I said, I saw your mom. She goes, oh, where
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: is she?
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: And I told her, Oh, so Nikki was there. Nikki
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: was there, but not Paris. Or that's who you saw.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I ran into Bruce. I ran into Bruce. You know,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Andy Kong's best friend, Bruce. Buzzy.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Bruce Buzzy.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Buzzy, thank you. Mark Consuela was there. I didn't see Kelly.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Gus Three from Today Show. Savannah was there. She looked beautiful.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: James Corwin was there. Jon Hamm was there. Rannan, Jon Voight, Dr. Hemsworth.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's like the oldie but the goodie. I mean,
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: everybody was there. I mean, it was just, oh, Cardi
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: B and her funny story on the red carpet going
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: into the Vanity Fair. There's like a long line and
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: everybody's A-list. It doesn't matter. You wait in the line.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Once she's super A-list, you cut the line. But she's
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: super A-list and cuts the line. But I didn't know
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: who she was. So this girl in red comes up
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: and she's wearing like this kind of sheer mask over
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: her face. But she's with a guy who's wearing like
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: a real mask over his face, all of rhinestones. So
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I look at her and I said, who is that?
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: And she smiles at me. Three steps later, she gets
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: on the red car out on the spot on the circle.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: And they're all screaming, Cardi, Cardi. And I'm like, oh,
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: my God, that's Cardi B. I'm such an idiot. I
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: don't even know it.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Well, she's got a bunch of crystals on her face.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: How would you know?
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: No, she didn't. The guy she was with did. And
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: I never found out who he was. I never found
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: that really rough.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: So did you say, did you do the red carpet
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: for Vanity Fair as well?
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: I did, but I'm going to be honest, there weren't.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm not, first of all, besides the fact
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: that I'm a housewife, love man on the totem pole,
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: I'm on TV. I'm not, you know what I mean?
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Like this is movie stars. This is like the big time.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Like they're looking for the actual winner. Yeah.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: But I'm still glad you did it.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: I've been there too, where it's like, I've gone to
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: something and depending on what time I get there or,
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: or how small of an event it is.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: They're excited for me.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: Other times I'm like, you know, this is going to
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: take two seconds because they're going to take my picture
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: and then no one's going to ask me a question
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: and I'm going to be off of it in two seconds,
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: which is fine. It's still worth it to do it
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: because you're there.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Elton John, they were much more interested
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: in me because there were less celebrities. And I was earlier.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: So I think they had it.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: So at the Vanity, so how long did you stay
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: at the Vanity Fair? And did you and your friend, like,
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: when did you know Let's wrap it up or I'm
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: just so tired I have to leave.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Like, how do you decide?
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, so don't be mad at me. We didn't stay long.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: I didn't figure out how much it was a minute.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: So we got there about 1030, but we stood in line.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: It was a stupid mistake. If I go next year,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: I'm not waiting in line. I don't need my picture
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: taken on the red carpet. I would bypass that, go
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: right into the party and take pictures there because they
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: took pictures of that.
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Because I know I'm not important enough. You know, not
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: that I thought I was, but I did want to
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: get my picture taken on the red carpet. And I
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: think maybe two people tried. There were 100 cameras there.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Everyone else had their camera down and was picking on
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: someone else. I mean, it's fine. I have no ego.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: It's fine. So I wouldn't wait in line again. That
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: was a waste of time. So by the time I
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: got in, let's say it was like 11, 11, 15,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: we were in the car by 12. Like we stayed
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: 45 minutes. I saw everybody. A lot of people had
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: left already and gone to Elton John. So the two
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: parties going on at the Oscars at the same time
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: watching the show Vanity Fair, Elton John. After it's over,
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: they swapped. And then the Oscar people who win or
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: go to the Oscars go to the Governor's Ball first,
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: if they are an Oscar nominee or winner. They go
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: to the Governor's Ball. And that takes, let's say, an hour.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: So by the time they're done, they're getting to Vanity
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Fair around 11. So as I was leaving, I mean,
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: I met a few people. I told her I took
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: a picture. I held an Oscar. I held this Oscar.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: It weighs like 25 pounds.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Who's Oscar?
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: And they say, oh, it's heavier than I thought. The
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: guy who won Supporting Actor. Oh, okay. He let me
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: hold this Oscar. And it weighs like twice as much
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: as you think it does. Like my dress. Yeah. Like that.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Like your hand gets pulled down. It's that heavy. Literally.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I should have like taken a picture with it. I didn't.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: I was just so excited to hold it. I took
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: a picture with him. Then I asked him to hold
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: the Oscar. So it was out of order. So I
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: met a few people getting the Oscars coming in. But
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: it was like, I'm tired. I got a million celebrities.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: I got a million photos. How much more can we do?
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: So we left. I got my shoes. They gave free
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: shoes when you left flat. Could they not have given
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: it inside? I had to take my shoes off and
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: walk barefoot on dirty floors all night when I got,
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: you know, they had free flats outside.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: That's nice that they did that.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: They do, but they do it when you're getting in
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: your car. Who cares?
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Like, why don't you
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: do it when you're entering the place? Right. Instead of
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: at the exit. It should be at the entrance saying, okay,
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: if you've already been walking all night, get some shoes.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: The other thing is, I was disappointed. Guess what they
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: didn't have, Heather? What?
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Diet Coke?
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: No get back. Oh, no gift bag.
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: No gift bag.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Now, I was told Elton John had the best gift bag.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: No gift bag, unless I missed it. But I'm sure
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: somebody would have said, here's a gift bag. No gift bag.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: And the only thing I got from the Vanity Fair
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: party is they had water bottles and metal cans that
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: were printed off. So I took that. I took my program.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: I took my ticket. And I got my shoes. That's it.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: I would have liked to have gotten a gift bag, but...
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: no gift bag. So just telling you, telling everybody. It
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: was a night of my life. Do I have to
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: do it again? No. Would I go back again? Yes.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: And I would be there on time at 1030. My
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: ticket was to 1030 and I would not use red carpet.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: I would go right in.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: You mean you'd go to Vanity Fair at 10?
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: You'd go right at Vanity Fair at 10.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: Do you feel like you missed out not going to
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: the second party of Elton John, though?
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: I'll let you know when I see what happens. I
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: think not. I saw who's on the program. I don't
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: recognize the name. He has musical guests? Yes, but I
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: don't recognize the name. And I saw Elton John at
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: a private concert six months ago, and I also saw
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: him in a concert in Florida. Um, but I, I,
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: I have video. I have that.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: But he wasn't, he wasn't sure. So he was performing.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: No, he's not scheduled to perform. He was not scheduled
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: to perform. And I did not see a piano. So
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: if there's no piano, Elton John's not singing, actually. There
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: was no piano. There's no way he would sing, actually.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: So, Jill, I know you have to get on a plane,
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: but you said you believe the reason that you're at
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: the Oscars is because last year you manifested it, which
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: is what I call working the secret. And other people
• 50:39
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• 50:43
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• 50:47
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• 50:48
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• 50:50
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• 50:51
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• 50:53
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• 50:56
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• 50:59
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• 51:01
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• 51:08
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• 51:10
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  Speaker 2: can use some luck. All right, Jill. Enjoy your flight.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: You know, I was manifesting that one of those people at.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: The table would have gotten sick between 1130 when I
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: met your friend and three o'clock when you had to leave.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: But I guess nobody got sick and everyone showed up.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: So maybe next year.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: You know what? Next year, I'm going to work on that.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: And we'll have the best time of your life. Like, beyond.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: I'm going to work on that.
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: I am.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: I love you, Jill. Have a good safe flight back.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for doing this.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Have a great show. Thanks everyone for listening. Bye. Bye.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: So I got to talk to Dr.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: Drew on Friday and we talked for a long time.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: Some of it's going to be for my Patreon. You know,
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: you go to HeatherMcDonald.net and click on Patreon for different
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: levels because we get into lots of juicy personal stuff.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: But the part I want to share on today's show
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: is just relevant to the scandal of all Vanderpump cheating,
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: narcissism relationships.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: And Dr.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: Drew was great about that. So let's listen to some
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: of that right now with my friend, Dr.
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: Drew.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have return favorite,
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: everyone's favorite therapist, certainly mine, Dr.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Drew.
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: Good afternoon.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: Dr.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Drew Pinsky.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: Here we are.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: We have so much to discuss. We have so many questions.
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: We always do, you and I. In fact, we should,
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: it's sad how much flows out into the universe without
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: being caught on mic.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: I know, I'm like, save it, save it, save it. You,
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: I asked you if you were up on the Vanderpump Scoop.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: And just to give people a reference, we're recording this,
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: what did they say, 8th?
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, 10th. It's March.
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: I've lost a week of my life.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: That's what she meant. It's March 10th, 2023. And so
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: we're in the thick of the one week. It was
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: a week ago today that the news broke that Tom
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: Sandoval was having a seven-month affair with this girl, Raquel,
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: from Vanderpump Rules.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: And the other girl is his wife, and it's her
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: best friend or something.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: Good friend.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: That's pretty much all you need.
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: I'd heard it.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: That's all you really need to know.
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: And I've read her apology.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: And, okay, go ahead. You asked about it.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: No, go ahead. I've talked about it forever.
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: Because I know what you're going to say about it.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: What am I going to say about it?
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: Because people feel like it's an excuse, that she's making
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: an excuse for what happened. I just want you to
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: know what she described about the condition that she allegedly
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: has was spot on. Spot on. The problem is when
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: somebody makes an apology, you just want the fucking apology.
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: You don't want the explanation for why you're an asshole.
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: That can come later. I think the reason it didn't
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: work the way, unfortunately, it should have is that it
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: was apology, which was good, and then explanation. And people
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: kind of feel like if you're using an explanation, even though,
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: in my opinion, it's 100% accurate, it feels like an excuse.
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: And that's what people get kind of weird about.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: Well, I think in this day and age, victimhood is
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: very popular. It's an easy way to get out of something.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: When you're about to be canceled... You know, I feel
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: like Will Smith did it. You know, oh, I went
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: away and I realized it's because my dad was a
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: dick and like whatever his excuse was.
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: This is the problem. Explanation shouldn't be used as excuse.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: It should be there's no excuse. I apologize. I will
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: make this right.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: Period.
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: End of story. Then if you want to hear what's
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: going on inside me, I'll be happy to tell you.
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: By the way, it'd be good for people to hear
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: it because it's educational. It's good. But it's not an excuse.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: And I also feel that, you know, she's obviously... Um,
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: have people helping her.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: She showed in a situation like this and helping.
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: PR and I almost felt like a therapist wrote that because.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: Definitely, I mean, I think she met with all the
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: people and they're like, you know, we want, even the
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: parents are going to be like, well, please tell us
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: we didn't like raise. a sociopath who has absolutely no
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: feelings for someone.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: No, you didn't.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: You raised someone who became, you know, sucked into bad
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: relationships and is a love addict and blah, blah, blah.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: So, of course you want that.
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, people can be cunning, but it usually isn't.
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: It usually is, oh my God, it's like, oh, that's
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: why I'm such an asshole. I better tell everybody because that,
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: and it feels good to explain it. They're missing the point,
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: which is the accountability, you know, the amends, right? And that's,
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: part of the pathology, frankly, is you kind of miss
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: that part. You want to be, look, it's perfectly natural
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: for her to want to be excused for this, right?
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: It does not feel good. She wishes she hadn't done this.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Raquel, yeah.
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: Raquel. It was a mistake. She sees it was a mistake.
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: She sees it in the context of her sex and
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: love addiction now. But that's, you know, there was a
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: reason I think people used to keep things to themselves.
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: You know, it used to be very, that was personable
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: back in the day. And you'd have your own stuff.
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: I sort of invented bringing things out into the sunlight.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: And I think it's a good thing because other people
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: can learn from it. But don't expect that you're going
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: to get necessarily, you know, direct benefits. You know what
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: I mean?
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: Well, I think when the affair first started with the
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: two of them. And, you know, they say it was
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: seven months. But there's, that it could have been all
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: the way up until April of 2022.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: So, yeah.
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: I really think, and I think Lisa Vanderpump even kind
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: of said this, I think that the plan was to
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: get through the filming and the reunion, which was always
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: scheduled for March 23rd, which is going to happen March 23rd,
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: without anyone knowing. Then they stop filming. He ends his
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: relationship with Ariana. And then once they're officially broken up,
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: Then he can start dating Raquel, and the two of
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: them will act like we found each other.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, boy.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: And then they come.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: Back- That's gross.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: On the show and have- So I do think- That's.
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: Sort of gross to do that, right? It's very gross,
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: but I do- Unless Ariana's signed up for it.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: No. No, I mean, no.
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: She's the wife, Ariana, right?
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, basically.
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: But I also- But what's up with him? What's up
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: with the- Why aren't we talking about his pathology?
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: No, no.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: But I think his pathology in convincing her was also
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: a huge- being part of the show is why it
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: takes it to a whole, all different dimensions versus if
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: this was just happening.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: In a cul-de-sac.
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: Oh, right. Yeah.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: That's where the best friend is screwing her. The lady's
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: next door is husband.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: Like that's also really, really weird and crazy and always
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: has been. But I think some of their planning and
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: secrecy and everything is, was also because we're on a
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: show together, and we want to stay on a show,
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: and we want the show to continue, because for Tom Sandoval,
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: it's been his career for 13 years.
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, women have an uncanny ability to blame
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: the woman when there's cheating going on.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: I've been accused of blaming her too much from some
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: of the fans.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: And I just think because... Sorry, I have to come
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: up with something.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: I think that we're used to men being awful and dog. Oh,
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: my God.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but this is big. cheating and being a dog
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: when you're 22 and you're in a relationship that's three
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: months old. How long have they been married?
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: They've been together. They never got married, but they own
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: a home together. They've been together nine years.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's a whole different thing. Or the way
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: I could excuse him, by the way, it's not excuse,
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: but explain again. is if that relationship was really a
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: mess and he didn't know how to get out or something, okay,
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: he blew it up. That happens too. But this didn't
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: feel like that. This felt very clandestine.
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: I just remembered I saw a TikTok with a female
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: divorce attorney. And she said, in all the years of
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: me practicing divorce for 33 years or whatever it is,
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: only in three cases, in her hundreds of cases, Where
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: the man has initiated the divorce, did he not already
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: have a girlfriend? The men will leave when they already
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: have someone else.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: I find that true of the women too. I think
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: it's both. Well, in her.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: Case, she said women will leave when they don't have
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: anyone else lined up and they're just totally fed up
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: and done.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: But a man might not be in love with his
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: wife anymore. But if he doesn't have another girl lined up,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: he's less likely to initiate the divorce. He'd rather just
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: stay in a loveless marriage.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: Makes perfect sense to me. But people, both sexes maintain bullpens, literally.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: And as they get ready for the divorce, they call
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: the bullpen. How's your arm? Warm it up. Get your pitching.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: Get on the mound. Warm up with the coaches. Let's
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: go here. Both sides do that. Now, the one thing
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: I will say about women I've noticed in divorce is
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: when When relationships aren't going well for various reasons, it
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: really doesn't matter the cause. The marriage isn't going well.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: The woman's complaining, complaining, complaining. They go to couples therapy.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden, one day she goes,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: I'm out.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: That person is in a relationship. When it's been not
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: going well for a while and all of a sudden,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: out of the blue, today I'm leaving in a relationship.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: That's what you think. 100% been my experience. I agree
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: with the divorce turning on the man side in terms
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: of initiating divorce. But in terms of Being in a
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: relationship that's not working and then suddenly leaving.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: Well, I've also seen where the person, where the woman,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: if we're just talking about a woman, a woman is
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: so hurt by the man crying, you know, begging for his,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: and then one day she does stop crying and she
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: does stop fighting.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Because she actually doesn't care anymore. Yeah.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: And then it's like, if you're the kind of verbally
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: abusive one, And you get to a place where your
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: partner doesn't even care to fight back, then you know
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: it's really done.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: She's checked out.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Or vice versa.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: Or on the way out of something.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: I just don't even care enough to fight back with
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: you because it goes nowhere.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: It's so sad. All this stuff makes me sad. Okay.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: So what do you think of someone that lives that
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: cheating lifestyle? Yeah.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: I guess the one thing that I'm so interested in
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: the Raquel thing is that she is with her best
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: friend at Coworker Everything, going on trips with them, talking
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: about things, acting like she likes other guys when she's
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: actually screwing this girl's husband or man. When you've talked
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: to people that have done this, are they waking up
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: every day and just saying like, Do they even feel
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: bad when they're doing it or are they thinking it's
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: just a means to an end and the end will be,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: they're really.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Not meant to be together. I'm really meant to be
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: with him and I just have to wait it out.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: There's many different versions of it, right? Some people don't
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: feel bad, which is, that's not a good person in
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: that situation. You should feel bad about this. But there's
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: a million different stories people tell themselves. They tell themselves
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: whatever story they need to tell themselves to be the
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: good person in this situation. scenario and usually it's bullshit
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: usually they tell themselves bullshit she doesn't love me anymore
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: she doesn't care um she's cheating whatever they tell themselves
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: all kinds.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: Of crazy right but what about her in her case
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: being that she is not cheating on a partner she's
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: the she's cheating her friend or whatever like What does
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: that person tell themselves?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: The way I look at that particular kind of situation,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: it's like a drug addict continuing to maintain their addiction, stealing, cheating, lying.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: They just have to do it to survive. They're in
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: sort of a weird, they're disturbed, right? They're in a
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: disease state. And although sex and love addiction isn't formally
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: a diagnosis, it's a way of understanding these behaviors. And
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: when people are deep in this, they behave just like
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: drug addicts. It's like asking, what's it? What's a drug
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: addict trying to do when they're lying and cheating and stealing?
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: Here's what they're trying to do. Do drugs. Period. That's
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: the whole story. And the same thing with this woman.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: She's just trying to have sex with this guy. And
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: she needs that to fill the hole, survive, whatever it is.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: She just has to have that. So she does whatever
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: she has to do.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: It's interesting because when.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: You see the clips that they filmed before when she's
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: deceiving everybody on the cast, she's saying like, I just
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: don't care. I'm just out to have fun for me.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: I'm just out to like, she's kind of, I feel
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: like gave herself permission.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: To be like, I don't care.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: Like I'm going to do what I want to do,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: but I do think she fell in love with him.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: And now they're like, people are like analyzing her social
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: media from months back where she would like this lightning
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: bolt thing is they both had these lightning bolt necklaces
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: and she always did lightning bolt emojis.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: And she's always like, you know, doing like caption this thing.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: And it's like, if you, if you analyze the three emojis,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: it's Tom's future girl about herself and things like that.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: So she was like throwing hints out. And I think
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: they were like winking at each other through social media
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: that like, I got you. And of course the necklace
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: was like, every time I take a photo with this
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: necklace on, you know that it's like, and I, that's
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: not new to like treating couples.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: It's fascinating. It's fascinating to me that the way we
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: educate patients who get, fall into these, uh, situations that
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: are too intense. They get addicted to the intensity. That's
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: what they love. They don't know intimacy or love. They
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: just know intensity. And we always tell them, think lightning bolts,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: not lightning bolts. No, think butterflies, not lightning bolts. We
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: tell them that all the time.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: In other words, when you see somebody and you have
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: like lightning bolt attraction to them, and if you're a
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: love addict, you have a tendency to pick bad people,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: that's going to be a bad person again. That's going
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: to be your addiction every time, every single time. you're
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: just gonna reenact that cycle. So if it's somebody that
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: you're excited about, interested in, but not struck by, if
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: you're struck, that's your brain, your brain's a perfect instrument
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: with this. People don't talk about it. Attractions, if you
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: have certain pathological sort of maps in your brain, attractions,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: those pathologies are the source of attraction. Attraction is how
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: that all gets acted out. You attract and are attracted
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: to people and circumstances that either act out the addiction
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: or the traumas from the past whatever it is you
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: have to learn to read your attractions if you're one
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: of these people and you can't give into it unless
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: you go get intensive treatment and those attractions kind of.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: Settle down um i mean how would someone like ariana
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: like ever like work with these people again or have
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: to deal with these people again if in fact they
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: are like it's one thing to have are they going
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: to be a couple I mean, I think they are.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: The last thing she wrote, she did another statement where
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: she was like, when I met Tom, it was out of, um, friend,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: you know, like my really, my feelings for Tom have
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: always been stemmed from friendship first. And like, she did,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: she's basically said this thing to make it like to
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: not to let Tom know. And then he liked it
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: to let Tom know, like, I'm not throwing you under
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: the bus in this.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: Well, not throwing under the bus is one thing, but
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: if she's actually getting her sex addiction treatment, this guy's
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: her drug. And so continuing that relationship is going to
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: be a sign that you wouldn't tell anybody to break
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: up a relationship in treatment, right? We don't tell people
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: how to live their life. But if she's actively engaged
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: in treatment, she's not going to stay with that guy.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: If she does, that tells you that whole diatribe explanation
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: was an excuse.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: What about, though, that it's tied into her whole career
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: and livelihood?
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: This is the problem. You asked how could Ariana stay
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: around those people, right?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: It depends how much they're getting paid and how much
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: that means to them, right? It's just all these secondary gains.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: What are they going to put up with? It's kind
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: of excruciating to think about.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: This is Annie's question. I don't know why this is
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Annie's question.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: I had all these questions are coming from my Juicy
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: Skip Obsessed Facebook. What do you think is going to
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: happen to all these sugar babies that don't know how
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: to take care of themselves without some old rich guy
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: paying their bills?
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's awful, right?
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: She's not a sugar baby.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: Don't look at her like that.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: She asked the question, so I'm answering it to her. Again,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: you know, to try to generalize about people's choices and
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: behaviors is really tough, but that's one liability, right? The
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: other is think of your values and your sense of
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: worth and your sense of yourself that gets you to
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 5: the place where you're doing that, right?
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: You can't feel great about yourself and you can't, It
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: has a nefarious quality to it also. So you're willing
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: to go to places for money. It's like, is that
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: really who you are? And by the way, if that
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: is really who you are, then there's sort of certain
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: character structures that gravitate to that stuff that it's not
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: so great either.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: And it's all like, you know, it's all this weird
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: stuff that just didn't, was never a conversation with my
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: girlfriends and I 30 years ago.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Like getting a Chanel bag from a guy.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: It just wasn't anything we discussed.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: This is what Megan Dom's always talking about, how when
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: we were all growing up, there was much more equity
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: between men and women. We were all just sort of
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: competing together. You were my competitor in school. We were
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: going to compete for places in graduate school, and then
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: we were going to compete for jobs. You were the
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: same as my male friend, no difference. And so the
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: idea that you would be scheming, it never, ever occurred
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: to anybody.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: No, you just, I remember I was on one date
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: with this guy and he goes, wait, I have to
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: go into this, like whatever. It was like a, you know,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: a place where you'd buy shampoo, like kind of a,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: like an upscale, whatever. And he's buying some stuff and
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: he's like, do you need anything? And I was like,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to have this guy on a date,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: like buy my shampoo.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: And that, you know, and then shortly after that, like whatever,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: I got married. And now this is like such a
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: thing of like, there's people telling women like how to,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: even if you're not in a sugar baby relationship, but
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: you're like on a a couple of dates with someone
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: that can afford it, how to take them into a
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: store and what to say and do to kind of
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: trick them into.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: Buying what you want.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: And even Chris Rock talks about it on his special,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: how it's so easy to date a 25 year old.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: You just buy her a pair of shoes and then
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: she prances around naked in front of you in them
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: and calls you daddy. And then a woman who's 45 says,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: Is going to, might own her own home and like
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: ask you to help her when her pool overflows. So
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: he's like, I'd rather just buy the shoes for the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: 25 year old. But I appreciated his honesty as like
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: a divorced 55 year old rich guy. That's, that's the
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: reality of 2023 for somebody.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: Well, I also had a guy who was dating in Miami.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: He was like my age and he was saying he had,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: he's encountered that.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: And he was saying he's, he, he, this is awful.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: Because we've gotten to this point with people, right?
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: Dating should be a thing where you sit and you
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: enjoy other people's company.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: You learn who you are, who the other person is,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: what you like, what you don't like, and then you
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: form romantic liaisons as that develops.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: That's healthy. We're like exploiting each other. We're like using
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: each other, which is the opposite of good human relations.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: But this guy said he encountered three different things. He
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: said the women, the younger ones that he was buying
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: the shoes for, then wanted him to have a kid
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: with them. Yeah.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: Anchor baby, lock it down.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: The next, like the sort of 30 to 50-year-olds wanted
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: him to pay for their kid, take care of the
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: kid that they already had. And then the older ones,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: sort of my age, wanted to keep him. They wanted
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: him to sort of be... He would be kept by
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: them because they had money and were stable and just
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: wanted to use him as exactly the way he was
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: using the younger ones, essentially.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: They just want to always have a date.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: Just have him.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: They don't want to be... Single.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: And they use the strategy of coming to their, you know,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: coming to their suites at the football games and stuff.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: Rather than shoes, it's athletic events and concerts and things
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, they write the guys that. Oh, that's great.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: Courtside at the, you know, Knicks game and things.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I definitely think with women that, you know,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: are like over 50, if they are single and they
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: have money, sometimes they want to be single, but they
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: also just want, especially if it's like a famous person,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: like there's this one woman who's, I'll just say she's
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: a former real housewife and she's had this fiance for
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: a long time, but nobody really sees them together that
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: much and they're not getting married. And I don't even
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: think she's really into him. I think she just doesn't
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: want to be a hundred percent single and she's busy
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: being a mom and running businesses.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: People do that.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: And it's like, let's just see each other twice a
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: month or on a vacation.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: But like, I have this big rock And I can
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: tell everyone I'm a fiance, but there's no move to
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: get married or even to live together for that.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: It's all so sad. By the way, speaking of Juicy
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: Scoop Obsessed, I keep running into more and more Juicy
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: Scoopers around.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's great.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: And they're always the best people.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: I know. I'm almost jealous that these are your fans
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: because they're dedicated, they're smart, they're really interested in all
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: this that you're interested in, and they appreciate what you do, too.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I have the best.
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  Speaker 5: And I've forgotten this part. The last time I ran
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: into somebody was like a week ago at the montage
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: in Laguna Beach. And they told me they saw the
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: footage of you dancing in front of the piano.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 2: When we all went out.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, no, that's out there.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: We had so much more to discuss.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: Some of it you're going to hear at HeatherMcDonald.net, on
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  Speaker 4: the Friday show, The Extra Juicy, and also on the
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: Get Me Behind Gates.
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  Speaker 2: So enjoy. And thank you so much, you guys.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: One reward. Endless choice. Skip the hassle. Reward the easy way.