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- 0:21SPEAKER_56: And another Monday has arrived.
- 0:24SPEAKER_56: It's the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment.
- 0:27SPEAKER_56: And thank you to all the early risers who have joined the show this morning, or if you happen to be catching up on the podcast.
- 0:33SPEAKER_56: I, of course, uh am your host, John Justice.
- 0:36SPEAKER_56: We have uh Devin producing the show this morning.
- 0:38SPEAKER_56: Good morning, sir.
- 0:39SPEAKER_56: Hope you had a fantastic uh weekend.
- 0:41SPEAKER_56: I hope you had a fantastic weekend as well.
- 0:44SPEAKER_56: We're gonna talk a little bit about uh America 250, the race that took place, the indie car race that took place yesterday in and around the United States Capitol.
- 0:53SPEAKER_56: Really cool event.
- 0:55SPEAKER_56: Uh I'm a big motorsport fan.
- 0:57SPEAKER_56: You probably know this massive NASCAR fan.
- 0:59SPEAKER_56: It was unfortunate that the um the America 250 race ended up over uh overlapping with the uh with the NASCAR race.
- 1:06SPEAKER_56: So I ended up taking in both at the uh at the same time.
- 1:09SPEAKER_56: But we'll get into a little bit of this with Andrew Langer, president of the Institute for Liberty, when he joins us this morning coming up at uh 6.30 controversy, and we'll start the show off with a bit of this.
- 1:22SPEAKER_56: I'll share some of my commentary regarding uh conservative doing that thing with my fingers, provocateur Jake Lang, his uh protest that took place in Minneapolis, violence erupted, arrests ensued, and all of it was so completely unnecessary.
- 1:38SPEAKER_56: Plus, the Minnesota State Fair kicking up this week.
- 1:40SPEAKER_56: We'll get you an update on what's going on uh at the uh at the fair.
- 1:44SPEAKER_56: Hopefully, we'll be speaking with Congressional candidate Paul Wickstrom coming up at 8 o'clock this morning.
- 1:49SPEAKER_56: We had some difficulty getting him on the show Thursday, so we're gonna attempt to do that again, again, coming up at uh eight o'clock today.
- 1:56SPEAKER_56: And as always, if you want to take part in the show, you can leave us a blast on the blaster line.
- 2:00SPEAKER_56: Let your voice be heard at 612-584-4565.
- 2:04SPEAKER_56: That's 612-584-4565.
- 2:07SPEAKER_56: And you can always email me, John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org.
- 2:12SPEAKER_56: Uh, a couple of items to note.
- 2:14SPEAKER_56: Uh, speaking of the Minnesota State Fair, uh, American Experiment will be at the event uh this Saturday, the 29th.
- 2:20SPEAKER_56: I will be there live from 11 until 1 p.m.
- 2:24SPEAKER_56: And we've got a lot of really cool stuff that we're going to be uh handing out at the event.
- 2:30SPEAKER_56: We have a wheel.
- 2:30SPEAKER_56: You can spin We got a wheel and on the wheel or is how Minnesota's on the wrong track.
- 2:36SPEAKER_56: So you get to learn how Minnesota is on the wrong track while also winning a bunch of free stuff.
- 2:42SPEAKER_56: Isn't it interesting how it works?
- 2:44SPEAKER_56: So uh make plans to come on out and join us.
- 2:46SPEAKER_56: And I believe most of the Freedom Friday crew should be there between 11 and 1 when I am there on Saturday.
- 2:53SPEAKER_56: But Center the American Experiment will be there all day, the entire day on Saturday.
- 2:58SPEAKER_56: So even if you can't come by while I'm there uh manning the booth, uh come on by and grab yourself some free stuff all throughout the affair.
- 3:06SPEAKER_56: Avoid the uh power drag review that'll be doing pop-up events.
- 3:11SPEAKER_56: We'll talk more about that.
- 3:13SPEAKER_56: And thankfully, because our um state government has capitulated to gang members, there shouldn't be any gang violence coming up on uh on Saturday.
- 3:22SPEAKER_56: Also, want to mention that tonight, in the more immediate future, I will be out at the uh the ballpark in the Twin Cities.
- 3:30SPEAKER_56: Uh fantastic restaurant right in my neck of the woods on uh 65 and 109th, uh roughly 109th, right?
- 3:36SPEAKER_56: Uh I'll be there for the uh the SD32 Republicans monthly uh BPOU meeting.
- 3:42SPEAKER_56: So swing on by.
- 3:43SPEAKER_56: Uh they'll be doing some social and snacks at about 5 30.
- 3:48SPEAKER_56: I believe the event gets underway around 6 30, and I'll be uh again saying a few words before I scurry off home to get some sleep.
- 3:54SPEAKER_56: So if you happen to be up in Blaine at the ballpark uh restaurant on uh 65, uh swing on by and say hello.
- 4:01SPEAKER_56: Always a fun be always a fun meeting with that group of people.
- 4:04SPEAKER_56: So looking forward to uh to going to that event uh this evening.
- 4:07SPEAKER_56: So let's go ahead and start here.
- 4:09SPEAKER_56: I'm gonna dive further into this coming up after seven o'clock uh this morning, but it is the big news locally from over the weekend.
- 4:15SPEAKER_56: Eleven arrests were made following clashes at the far right rally led by Jake Lang of Minneapolis.
- 4:23SPEAKER_56: Lang and his associates, including Jaden Scott, were arrested for probable cause riots after driving onto the sidewalk and deploying pepper spray towards the counter protesters.
- 4:35SPEAKER_56: The Minneapolis Police Department prioritizes separating demonstrators from vehicle traffic, but others were injured by thrown objects during the confident uh confrontation.
- 4:47SPEAKER_56: Lang and his fellow activists were among those arrested for probable cause riot.
- 4:52SPEAKER_56: There was a lot of commentary regarding what had transpired, saying that Jake Lang got arrested, but then frustrated that nobody else apparently got arrested.
- 5:05SPEAKER_56: That was the narrative being put forward, that it was just Jake Lang that got arrested.
- 5:09SPEAKER_56: And that's not the case.
- 5:10SPEAKER_56: I actually have the the list here.
- 5:12SPEAKER_56: You had a 53-year-old man from White Bear Lake, a 42-year-old from also White Bear Lake, a 33-year-old from Minneapolis, a 29-year-old from Minneapolis, you had a 33 and 37-year-old from Infragrove Heights, a 22-year-old man from Plainfield, Illinois, and they were also arrested for assault, riot, and conduct.
- 5:35SPEAKER_56: There were individuals taking part in the rally that were also stopped during a traffic stop.
- 5:40SPEAKER_56: Um, and then the individuals that were arrested there.
- 5:42SPEAKER_56: In total, 11 people ended up being arrested at this event.
- 5:47SPEAKER_56: The 31-year-old from Florida was among those, right, arrested.
- 5:51SPEAKER_56: Uh, the vehicles that he drove up on, including a flatbed truck, displaying the saying, Jake Lang loves the black people but hates and then n-words.
- 6:03SPEAKER_56: And the N-word was actually spelled out.
- 6:05SPEAKER_56: Now, if you're listening to Friday's Freedom Friday show, we talked a bit about this.
- 6:10SPEAKER_56: And A.K.
- 6:11SPEAKER_56: Kamara reminded me, because I had separated the two out.
- 6:15SPEAKER_56: He had sent the group chat that we have for Freedom Friday.
- 6:19SPEAKER_56: He had sent us all a graphic that was promoting this event.
- 6:24SPEAKER_56: And this was a couple of weeks back.
- 6:26SPEAKER_56: And that graphic was this Jake Lang event taking place, and on it was the N-word.
- 6:33SPEAKER_56: And AK had shared us, like, oh, did you guys see this kind of thing?
- 6:36SPEAKER_56: And I was like, oh my gosh, right?
- 6:37SPEAKER_56: I just, okay, whatever.
- 6:39SPEAKER_56: Dismissed it, and I didn't really think much about it after AK had gone and sent that to us.
- 6:45SPEAKER_56: And then he reminded us on Friday that this was the event.
- 6:47SPEAKER_56: And I was like, oh my gosh, I completely forgot.
- 6:50SPEAKER_56: A couple of things can be true at once.
- 6:52SPEAKER_56: And I'll have further commentary as we get into the details, including the in the dude dressed as Spider-Man at some point that went and jumped on to one of the flatbed trucks and tried to go after Jake Lang, just adding to the chaos of the visual of what transpired.
- 7:08SPEAKER_56: But a couple of things can be true at once here.
- 7:11SPEAKER_56: And it's so funny, by the way, because I don't recall using that terminology.
- 7:20SPEAKER_56: Um two things can be true at once.
- 7:22SPEAKER_56: As much as I have, say, over the past like two years.
- 7:27SPEAKER_56: And I don't know why I don't know why that is.
- 7:29SPEAKER_56: I I don't know, and I I bring that up because I don't know if there's more circumstances wherein this needs to be pointed out that a few things can be true at the same time.
- 7:39SPEAKER_56: Because it certainly rings true in this situation.
- 7:42SPEAKER_56: You can support Jake Lang and his right to free speech, that he should be able to go out regardless of how offensive the terminology is or the signage is.
- 7:53SPEAKER_56: He should be able to go out and protest or rally like anybody else.
- 7:58SPEAKER_56: He has to face the consequences of that, mind you, but he should have his free speech.
- 8:01SPEAKER_56: Now, this situation gets a little bit more complicated because apparently he went and drove up on the road, but you can support his right to free speech and still completely criticize his tactics.
- 8:12SPEAKER_56: What took place over the weekend was a group of individuals on different sides of the political spectrum all looking for attention, and they got it.
- 8:26SPEAKER_56: The question for me as a conservative is Did Jake Jake Lang in this event, did he do anything to support conservative causes in any in any way?
- 8:37SPEAKER_56: Did he advance the conversation regarding free speech?
- 8:42SPEAKER_56: And I'm sure it wasn't his intention to do anything relating to the general election, but we are looking at a general election.
- 8:52SPEAKER_56: There is a lot on the line, especially here in Minnesota, depending on whom the people go and elect.
- 8:59SPEAKER_56: And because of that, you can't really disconnect the two since Jake Lang is out there putting himself into the public as a conservative, and there is an immediate connection when it comes to the media coverage of this, because those on the left will go and look at Jake Lang's actions and they will say, hey, that's another reason to go and criticize Republicans and conservatives.
- 9:25SPEAKER_56: So the answer to all those questions in my mind is no.
- 9:28SPEAKER_56: He did nothing to advance conservative causes, free speech, or certainly anything that would help the Republicans in the general election.
- 9:38SPEAKER_56: As a matter of fact, I go a step further and say he actually went out of his way with a completely unnecessary event and conducted himself in such a way that actually hurts the GOP's chances and acknowledging that that wasn't the point of what he was trying to do.
- 9:54SPEAKER_56: The bottom line is for me, this ended up helping the far-left agitators much more than it did anything relating to conservatism.
- 10:03SPEAKER_56: And again, you can support his right to free speech that individuals should go and leave him alone.
- 10:10SPEAKER_56: That being said, that's not the case here.
- 10:13SPEAKER_56: He did this intentionally to get the reaction and the response, probably hoping to get arrested.
- 10:19SPEAKER_56: Because, like so many other issues that we talk about on a daily basis on the show as of late, which is just really unfortunate.
- 10:27SPEAKER_56: Um, this is a this is another example of individuals that are out there doing things um for themselves, more so than they are the alleged cause that they say that they are fighting for.
- 10:41SPEAKER_56: No, this is engagement farming at the worst level because, as I said, this helps those agitators.
- 10:49SPEAKER_56: We don't need examples of how violent the left is.
- 10:51SPEAKER_56: We already know.
- 10:54SPEAKER_56: It's not like we weren't aware that the antipho types are going to go and act violent when given the opportunity.
- 11:01SPEAKER_56: We're fully aware of this.
- 11:03SPEAKER_56: If you didn't have Jake Lang doing this event, then there wouldn't be any issue at all.
- 11:09SPEAKER_56: And yet, the takeaway here is that a lot of individuals may be drawn to the far-left activist organizations.
- 11:16SPEAKER_56: They may get more support monetarily, they may get more support in terms of people joining their organizations based off of what Jake Lang did than if he hadn't gone and done the event.
- 11:26SPEAKER_56: Incredibly um unfortunate and self-serving and putting Minnesota and Minneapolis back in the national uh news media uh spotlight, not for anything uh positive.
- 11:38SPEAKER_56: If you want to comment on this, 612-584-4565.
- 11:42SPEAKER_56: You can also email john.justice at americanexperiment uh.org.
- 11:47SPEAKER_56: Let's go here.
- 11:48SPEAKER_56: Former MBA center Ennis Cantor Freedom got booted from Sunday night's WNBA game.
- 11:54SPEAKER_56: It's the Chicago Winter Arena after a brief confrontation with a player on the court.
- 12:00SPEAKER_56: You see, Freedom was wearing a t-shirt emblazoned with the definition of the word woman.
- 12:07SPEAKER_56: And he was ejected just before the end of the third quarter after a brief confrontation with the Chicago Sky Guard, Natasha Cloud.
- 12:15SPEAKER_56: With a minute 22 left in the quarter, Cloud scored, and the fever called for a timeout.
- 12:21SPEAKER_56: Cloud approached the baseline where Freedom was seated, and his freedom, pointing and shouting at him as he raised both arms and stepped towards the court.
- 12:30SPEAKER_56: Several other players and officials jumped between them, preventing the confrontation from escalating.
- 12:36SPEAKER_56: Uh listen, if anything, I think the players should have been dejected.
- 12:39SPEAKER_56: All the dude, all the did dude, all the dude did, all the did dude, all the dude did was stand up and show everybody what his shirt said.
- 12:49SPEAKER_56: Here was uh some of the commentary from the announcers at this moment of controversy during the WWE game.
- 13:04SPEAKER_09: And right before the break, this is the point, voicing her opinion as well.
- 13:32SPEAKER_56: By the way, this whole uh take by the announcer that she just wanted her voice heard.
- 13:38SPEAKER_56: She's in the middle of a game for crying out loud.
- 13:41SPEAKER_56: There's gonna be a press conference afterwards.
- 13:43SPEAKER_56: Just wait until then.
- 13:45unknown: Okay.
- 13:46SPEAKER_56: That's part of the point I want to make with this.
- 13:49SPEAKER_56: So uh Enos had attended the game as well as the pregame rally.
- 13:54SPEAKER_56: He was showing his support for Indiana fever shooting guard, Sophie Cunningham.
- 13:58SPEAKER_56: Of course, she's become a popular target for pro-trans activists since she declared her support for biological women in sports and sex-specific spaces for men and girls.
- 14:08SPEAKER_56: The protests and rallies have followed the fever to several recent games, and on several occasions, women and girls have shown their support, either for biological women in sports or for Cunningham, have been harassed or told that they um that if they didn't cover up their XX-XY athletic shirts, they would be forced to leave.
- 14:26SPEAKER_56: Now, as the Daily Wire has previously reported, Freedom had declared himself a 2027 prospect, saying that he had reviewed the league's uh self-identification framework and met its retirements.
- 14:39SPEAKER_56: Now, I have a subsequent story regarding the WMBA.
- 14:43SPEAKER_56: Uh, they've uh they've gone and announced uh their new uh mascots, which are rather interesting.
- 14:49SPEAKER_56: I'll give you the description of these mascots.
- 14:52SPEAKER_56: One of them identifies as a uh She Day mascot.
- 14:59SPEAKER_56: This is not a real, this is a character.
- 15:01SPEAKER_56: It's just a person in a suit.
- 15:03SPEAKER_56: We'll we'll get to this in a second, but it's part of my commentary relating to the fact that the WNBA, make no mistake, they are absolutely exacerbating the situation in order to bring more eyes to the WNBA.
- 15:17SPEAKER_56: That's what's happening here.
- 15:19SPEAKER_56: Now listen, either Natasha Cloud, the Chicago Sky Guard, is in on it, she's encouraged to respond, or they've just been given the go-ahead to act the way that they are.
- 15:31SPEAKER_56: Or perhaps that's all wrong and she just has zero self-control.
- 15:35SPEAKER_56: You're in the middle of a game.
- 15:36SPEAKER_56: I mean, what kind of professional athlete are you if you're getting that distracted by a dude standing on the sidelines wearing a t-shirt?
- 15:46SPEAKER_56: It's another example of often when you go to protest something, you're just drawing further attention to it.
- 15:53SPEAKER_56: If the WNBA really wanted to avoid all this and didn't like the controversy, they would be telling all their players stick to playing the game, ignore what's happening on the sidelines, and act professional.
- 16:03SPEAKER_56: But that's not what's happening here.
- 16:04SPEAKER_56: And that certainly isn't the case with these WNBA new team mascots.
- 16:08SPEAKER_56: They're playing into all of this controversy.
- 16:12SPEAKER_56: This is an enterprise.
- 16:13SPEAKER_56: They need to bring eyeballs to their games.
- 16:16SPEAKER_56: The WNBA has had a difficult time for years, drawing crowds, getting substantial support.
- 16:23SPEAKER_56: You've had the players talking about the inequality of the payments of the WNBA players versus the NBA players.
- 16:30SPEAKER_56: That's ridiculous when you consider the quality of the NBA players' game versus the quality of the WNBA players' game.
- 16:37SPEAKER_56: Be it as it may, the WNBA, in my view, behind closed doors, they love all of this.
- 16:44SPEAKER_56: The controversy is great.
- 16:45SPEAKER_56: It's bringing more eyeballs to them, and therefore they're not doing anything to quell any of this controversy.
- 16:52SPEAKER_56: And if anything, they're doing everything they can to, without being blatant about it, take advantage of all of the coverage that they've been currently getting over these potential controversies.
- 17:04SPEAKER_56: All right, we'll continue with this.
- 17:05SPEAKER_56: We'll talk about the WMBA virtue signaling.
- 17:08SPEAKER_56: So hard they're gonna break a wrist, according to some commentators.
- 17:12SPEAKER_56: Also, an update on Iran.
- 17:14SPEAKER_56: The Iranian parliament speaker says that we are hungry and we cannot survive.
- 17:19SPEAKER_56: Are the economic sanctions of President Donald Trump and the Department of Defense actually working when it comes to Iran?
- 17:26SPEAKER_56: We'll give you the latest details.
- 17:28SPEAKER_56: So Mike Pence was on Fox News over the weekend talking about what he wants to see done regarding um Iran.
- 17:34SPEAKER_56: Also, Supreme Court ruling will allow the ballroom construction to continue.
- 17:38SPEAKER_56: A lot to get to here in the first hour of the John Justice show, presented by American Experiment, Andrew Langer, the president of the Institute for Liberty, will join us coming up in less than 15 minutes from now.
- 17:48SPEAKER_56: We'll get to your blast at 612-584-4565.
- 17:53SPEAKER_56: And of course, the email is John.justice at American Experiment.org.
- 17:57SPEAKER_56: Now, for uh a bit of a recap of some stories that you might have missed through the end of last week and over the weekend, here is a weekend update, courtesy of our friends here at American Experiment, uh, Alpha News here on the John Justice Show.
- 18:12SPEAKER_23: Here's a look at some of the top stories this week at Alpha News.
- 18:15SPEAKER_23: Derek Chauvin is seeking dismissal of his charges in the death of George Floyd in a new bombshell filing alleging unlawful and fraudulent conduct.
- 18:24SPEAKER_23: In the petition, attorney Greg Joseph argues that Chauvin's due process rights were violated because a grand jury was never convened to review the charges.
- 18:32SPEAKER_23: Joseph also argues that Governor Tim Walls' appointment of Attorney General Keith Ellison to lead the prosecution was itself unlawful.
- 18:41SPEAKER_23: After taking over the case, Ellison added the more serious charge of second-degree murder.
- 18:46SPEAKER_23: Chauvin's petition asked the court to vacate his convictions, arguing that the charges were never lawfully brought in the first place.
- 18:55SPEAKER_23: From our flashback files, Peggy Flanagan says Minnesota is built on white supremacy and not safe for black people.
- 19:02SPEAKER_23: In the days following George Floyd's death in 2020, Flanagan, the current DFL lieutenant governor and candidate for U.S.
- 19:08SPEAKER_23: Senate, said in an interview, we have an incredible state if you're white, and quote, if you are indigenous, if you are an immigrant or refugee, the opposite is true.
- 19:19SPEAKER_23: A Somali-born daycare owner in St.
- 19:21SPEAKER_23: Cloud, who racked up years of state licensing violations, has won the Democratic primary in House District 14A.
- 19:29SPEAKER_23: Abdi Dussain racked up 16 violations at Blooming Kids, the child care center he runs in St.
- 19:35SPEAKER_23: Cloud, according to DHS records.
- 19:37SPEAKER_23: Dassain now advances to the November general election against Republican Mike Conway.
- 19:44SPEAKER_23: And on the podcast, a Minneapolis business owner's message to politicians: you can only heap so much on us before we collapse.
- 19:52SPEAKER_23: Dr.
- 19:52SPEAKER_23: Mo Smith says business at her chiropractic and wellness center in Uptown is down 75% since the George Floyd riots.
- 20:02SPEAKER_23: Smith talked about how virtually no business in the area has not experienced a break-in, attempted break-in, theft, vandalism, or property damage in the past several years.
- 20:14SPEAKER_23: You'll see that interview on our YouTube channel.
- 20:17SPEAKER_23: Be sure to stay informed with independent Minnesota journalism at alpha news.org.
- 20:23SPEAKER_56: Liz Collin from Alpha News with a bit of an update.
- 20:26SPEAKER_56: Those stories are available at alpha news.org.
- 20:28SPEAKER_56: Let's go back to the blaster line here on the John Justice show, 612-584-4565.
- 20:34SPEAKER_42: Hey John, running control.
- 21:12SPEAKER_42: How you make the UFO look.
- 21:14SPEAKER_42: How many people are looking?
- 21:18SPEAKER_42: Have a great job.
- 21:20SPEAKER_56: Thank you so much for that, uh, Brandon.
- 21:21SPEAKER_56: I appreciate the uh comments.
- 21:23SPEAKER_56: We'll get back to more of your blasts uh coming up on the show, and we'll dive back into that story with further commentary coming up after uh seven o'clock today.
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- 23:47SPEAKER_18: Now, here's commentary on the latest issues facing Minnesotans from the host, Policy Fellows, and Guests of American Experiment.
- 23:54SPEAKER_06: I don't think any other state has this besides Minnesota, where okay, number one, you can vouch for up to eight people.
- 23:58SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 23:59SPEAKER_06: But then we also have same-day election uh registration, and we don't have provisional ballots.
- 24:04SPEAKER_06: So those those elements all combine together.
- 24:05SPEAKER_06: You don't other states that have same-day voter registration have a provisional ballot.
- 24:10SPEAKER_06: And so when you register to vote, typically if you're doing it in advance, you know, your your registration is checked so that when you actually go to you know vote on election day, you've been vetted by the state in some way.
- 24:20SPEAKER_06: Um but when you have same day registration, obviously there's not time for that to happen.
- 24:24SPEAKER_06: And so your vote gets counted immediately.
- 24:26SPEAKER_06: It gets put into the pool and it's never coming back out.
- 24:28SPEAKER_06: Other states, they will have same-day registrants use a what's called a provisional ballot.
- 24:33SPEAKER_06: And so, you know, they they cast their vote, but it's set off aside, and it's not actually added into the mix until their registration has been verified, which makes sense.
- 24:41SPEAKER_06: It's you know, Minnesota doesn't have that.
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- 24:57SPEAKER_06: The new video that he came uh that he posted over this last weekend showed O'Keefe disguising himself in Muslim, traditional Muslim clothing and then entering a polling place in Minneapolis using the name of a registered voter in that precinct.
- 25:10SPEAKER_06: Now, currently under state law, a registered voter can vouch for up to eight other people on election day.
- 25:17SPEAKER_06: Their votes, these eight people who are vouched for by one person, get counted immediately.
- 25:23SPEAKER_06: There's you know, there's no question.
- 25:25SPEAKER_06: They're not held back in any kind of way, there's no other check that happens.
- 25:28SPEAKER_06: If you walk in on election day and you are re not registered to vote, you can have someone next to you saying, I vouch for this person that they live in my precinct and they should vote.
- 25:36SPEAKER_06: And that's you know, that's the end of the discussion.
- 25:38SPEAKER_06: The exact quote from the election worker in this video was quote, you can vouch for them as ID for them.
- 25:45SPEAKER_06: You are the ID.
- 25:47SPEAKER_06: That is insane.
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- 27:47SPEAKER_46: Good morning, John.
- 27:53SPEAKER_46: One thing for sure.
- 27:55SPEAKER_46: The conservative will criticize ourselves and different person like the left.
- 28:08SPEAKER_46: I eat the DFA and we will rally around the part of the left.
- 28:14SPEAKER_46: Yep.
- 28:16SPEAKER_46: Conservative or different things ourselves because we're acknowledging what a weird overflow.
- 28:23SPEAKER_46: Yeah.
- 28:23SPEAKER_56: It's it is unit is unfortunate that we have individuals whom you typically would go and agree with on the issues.
- 28:32SPEAKER_56: And a person who has a platform and has grown a large fan base.
- 28:37SPEAKER_56: But all too often, when that happens, those individuals, they they end up becoming victims of their own creation.
- 28:44SPEAKER_56: And in order to go and maintain the level of viewership that they have, they have to increase the ridiculousness of their commentary and to keep building up that audience.
- 28:56SPEAKER_56: And then they end up building a brand new audience that's based off of their, in this case, abhorrent uh, you know, abhorrent behavior.
- 29:04SPEAKER_56: You can see you see this happen all the time.
- 29:06SPEAKER_56: It happens on the left too.
- 29:08SPEAKER_56: It's just it's unfortunate when it happens.
- 29:10SPEAKER_56: On the right, thank you for the comment.
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- 29:14SPEAKER_56: Canada's only WNBA franchise.
- 29:17SPEAKER_56: So they want to get in on all the controversy to the point I was making a moment ago, the WNBA.
- 29:22SPEAKER_56: The Toronto Tempo.
- 29:24SPEAKER_56: Toronto Tempo.
- 29:26SPEAKER_56: They unveiled two new official mascots this week, including a DJing snapping turtle, who uses she they pronouns.
- 29:36SPEAKER_56: Uh the Arctic Hare, so that's a rabbit.
- 29:40SPEAKER_56: And Des the Snapping Turtle, that's D-E-Z, made their debut last week during a halftime um event at Tempo's game against the Indiana Fever.
- 29:50SPEAKER_56: The timing was particularly notable because Fever's star, Sophie Cunningham, has emerged as one of the WNBA's most outspoken critics.
- 29:57SPEAKER_56: Again, another story from the Daily Wire.
- 29:59SPEAKER_56: Uh maybe it's Des, maybe not D's, maybe it's Des.
- 30:02SPEAKER_56: D-E-Z.
- 30:03SPEAKER_56: Des and Dot have completely different personalities, but they're better together.
- 30:08SPEAKER_56: This is according to Whitney Bell.
- 30:10SPEAKER_56: She's the chief marketing officer for the Toronto Tempo.
- 30:13SPEAKER_56: One knows when to slow things down, the other knows when to turn up the energy.
- 30:18SPEAKER_56: According to the Tempo, Des uses she they pronouns and is a uh Borealis blue snapping turtle from um uh Muskoka, Ontario, who DJs in her spare time.
- 30:33SPEAKER_56: Their name is inspired by Decibel, a nod to their love of music and a role as more as the more measured half of the duo, the team said.
- 30:43SPEAKER_56: Des is calm, clever, and always thinking a few steps ahead.
- 30:47SPEAKER_56: A Taurus who spins on the ones and twos in their spare time.
- 30:52SPEAKER_56: Des secret talent is snapping.
- 30:55SPEAKER_56: They also have a particular fondness for soft shell tacos.
- 31:00SPEAKER_56: Listen, I'm fine with all the background.
- 31:02SPEAKER_56: I know that this is um nothing but uh you know marketing for these teams, and they often go and give you know detail uh detailed backgrounds and descriptions of these individuals, but the fact that they gave them she, she, them pronouns, she they pronouns, it tells you all you need to know about what the actual focus here is.
- 31:21SPEAKER_56: Uh many have speculated that Des identifies as non-binary, which could be true, but the Tempo has not referred to it that way.
- 31:29SPEAKER_56: The WMBA is virtue signaling so hard they're going to break uh break a risk, said one social media user.
- 31:36SPEAKER_56: The LGBTQ plus focused outlet them also took notice, describing Des as butch and saying the Tempo's uh press release introducing the mascots reads like a novella and a very queer novella.
- 31:50SPEAKER_56: Isn't that uh isn't that awesome?
- 31:52SPEAKER_56: Uh the outlet uh went a step further, speculating that des and dot might be romantically involved.
- 32:01SPEAKER_56: That's right.
- 32:03SPEAKER_56: Them asked, uh that was the LGBTQ plus focused outlet, them uh asked the tempo to clarify that both mascots' relationship status and gender identity.
- 32:14SPEAKER_56: A tempo spokesperson told uh them that Des and Dot are besties, prompting the outlet to update its report.
- 32:21SPEAKER_56: Uh Des's gender identity um, however, uh remains a uh a mystery.
- 32:27SPEAKER_56: Again, prove me wrong, but the WNBA is absolutely intentionally exacerbating the controversies uh that have been surrounding them as of late.
- 32:36SPEAKER_56: They found a vehicle in which to gain attention, and they are leaning into it as best as they possibly can without being too overly obvious uh about it.
- 32:45SPEAKER_56: Speaking of leaning into controversy, president of the Institute for Liberty, Andrew Langer joins us here once again uh this morning.
- 32:54SPEAKER_56: Not really, Andrew.
- 32:54SPEAKER_56: I was just trying to figure out a clever way to introduce.
- 32:56SPEAKER_56: Oh no, no, no.
- 32:57SPEAKER_55: I always lean into it, John, and I know most folks feel that my uh my gender and uh dating status is a mystery.
- 33:04SPEAKER_56: Do you know what?
- 33:05SPEAKER_56: Have you decided what pronouns that you uh identify as?
- 33:09SPEAKER_55: Uh there was an activist.
- 33:10SPEAKER_55: Uh a few years back you might remember the story of uh he later, I think, became a TV producer.
- 33:14SPEAKER_55: I think he's out.
- 33:15SPEAKER_55: Now, Grant Strobel, who when he went to the University of Michigan, he declared that his pronouns were uh uh was was her his majesty.
- 33:23SPEAKER_55: Like Okay, you know.
- 33:26SPEAKER_56: All right, I can get behind that.
- 33:28SPEAKER_56: I'm convinced, by the way, as I just mentioned, I'm convinced, man, the WMBA is uh is uh they're leading into this controversy so hard.
- 33:36SPEAKER_55: I think I I agree with you.
- 33:38SPEAKER_55: I mean, right?
- 33:38SPEAKER_55: If it's it's like the old adage in news, if it bleeds, it leads.
- 33:42SPEAKER_55: Uh, you know, this is all all the attention.
- 33:44SPEAKER_55: The problem, of course, with that kind of attention is uh that eventually, you know, folks realize that it's just shtick and and the backlash will be something fierce.
- 33:54SPEAKER_55: They they don't have a listen, it it you know, it it it's it it's one thing to sort of emulate P.
- 33:59SPEAKER_55: T.
- 34:00SPEAKER_55: Barnum, but there really was only one P.T.
- 34:02SPEAKER_55: Barnum.
- 34:03SPEAKER_55: And so with a word, only one Donald Trump.
- 34:05SPEAKER_55: And so at some point, if you try to, you'll go a certain distance trying to emulate these people, but but if you don't have the uh secret sauce, um it's not uh it's not gonna last.
- 34:15SPEAKER_56: That is a fantastic point, uh, Andrew Langer.
- 34:17SPEAKER_56: Thank you.
- 34:18SPEAKER_56: Uh let's turn our attention to uh the Capitol before we talk about the Supreme Court allowing the White House ballroom construction to continue.
- 34:25SPEAKER_56: Uh I'm not the biggest indie car fan.
- 34:27SPEAKER_56: I do I do watch some indie car uh you know I follow it a bit.
- 34:31SPEAKER_56: I don't have like a chosen driver.
- 34:32SPEAKER_56: Um I've tried to get into it like I have with F1.
- 34:35SPEAKER_56: I just can't uh I can't find that I love that form of racing as much as I love my beloved NASCAR.
- 34:40SPEAKER_56: Now, that being said, this America 250 event uh in in uh in DC, in and around the Capitol, it was a pretty amazing event to watch.
- 34:49SPEAKER_56: As a matter of fact, um I know they're talking, I know uh Speaker Johnson mentioned that they like to do it again.
- 34:56SPEAKER_56: Um, Trump had said that he was talking with Roger Penske, of course, a titan within the motorsports industry, that he'd been trying to bring a race like this to DC for decades, and Trump finally made it happen.
- 35:08SPEAKER_56: This has the potential, Andrew, to become a prestige marquee event.
- 35:14SPEAKER_56: It'll, you know, it won't be as big as the Indianapolis 500 or the Daytona 500, but within these different motorsports, they have these marquee events.
- 35:23SPEAKER_56: You know, we have the Brickyard 400 for NASCAR, the the Darlington Southern 500, Indy has their prestige races beyond the indie 500.
- 35:31SPEAKER_56: This race, uh, the America 250 event could be one of those events if they continue doing it.
- 35:36SPEAKER_56: It was really, really fun uh to watch and without controversy, no protesting, uh, although they did what they could to keep that from happening.
- 35:44SPEAKER_56: So right.
- 35:45SPEAKER_55: Well, and also it's it, it's it's not the easiest.
- 35:47SPEAKER_55: The way that the the race course was set up, it was not, and you know this from watching racing.
- 35:52SPEAKER_55: I mean, there could have been protests somewhere, but because you're only focused on one, either you've got the driver's view, you know, of of the race or you've got these limited snapshots of it.
- 36:02SPEAKER_55: Uh, you're not gonna you're not gonna see if and where people are protesting.
- 36:05SPEAKER_55: I think a lot of folks just avoided uh downtown.
- 36:08SPEAKER_55: Here's the thing, uh, and there's all kinds of places I could I could go with this.
- 36:11SPEAKER_55: Let me let me start with the fact that when this race was announced, I happened to be on the air filling in for our buddy Tony Katz, and his producer, Landon, is an indie car guy, and he hit me to this uh this this the undercurrent, right?
- 36:26SPEAKER_55: This is uh these things are always Rorschach tests for the rest of America, right?
- 36:31SPEAKER_55: Depending on where you sit before the race, I think after the race, things have changed a little bit.
- 36:36SPEAKER_55: But you know, if you were a never Trumper and you're anti-Trump, you were very angry about this.
- 36:40SPEAKER_55: If you were nominally pro-Trump, you were in favor of it or or or or agnostic.
- 36:46SPEAKER_55: And I I I read on the air a tweet from some crybaby lefty indie car fan who was absolutely devastated that how dare the evil President Trump have this race, blah, blah, blah, and so on and so forth.
- 37:00SPEAKER_55: And I spent a good chunk of time making fun of the tweet on the air and apparently stepped in it big time with the indie car fans.
- 37:07SPEAKER_55: And for, you know, it was like, you know, listen, you know this.
- 37:11SPEAKER_55: Everything has its fandom.
- 37:13SPEAKER_55: And every and it and and and by the fandom, I mean the fanatic and fan.
- 37:17SPEAKER_55: Oh yeah.
- 37:18SPEAKER_55: So it was it was in the space of five hours, like you're you're just stereotypical uh, you know, internet descent into madness.
- 37:28SPEAKER_54: Um, you know, why are you picking on this poor 20-something girl?
- 37:33SPEAKER_54: You're a 40-something man, and you're this and you're that with all the whole thing.
- 37:38SPEAKER_55: And then uh, you know, the funny thing was, and I got blocked like by this person like within 10 minutes.
- 37:42SPEAKER_56: So because because because of course, because of course you because of course you got blocked.
- 37:47SPEAKER_55: But the the point is I I sort of watched and you know, as this thing was coming up, no, it's not like DC hasn't had races before.
- 37:57SPEAKER_55: DC has had some some some car races before, not downtown, not around the mall, but you know, for years there were still the remnants of I want to say of uh a indie car, maybe Formula One, I don't know, a track or near the old RFK stadium.
- 38:11SPEAKER_55: You could sort of see that stuff out there in the parking lot for years.
- 38:14SPEAKER_55: Um, you know, you had the the sort of the jaded folks who are like, oh, you know, it's gonna ruin downtown and it's gonna make it hard to get it down.
- 38:23SPEAKER_55: It's August.
- 38:24SPEAKER_55: Nobody's in DC anyway, in August.
- 38:26SPEAKER_55: And, you know, to do an event that gets people to come to DC in the sweltering heat of August is a really good thing.
- 38:34SPEAKER_55: It's like I had my Ben's Chili Bowl lunch on Friday, and one of my regulars texted me on Thursday, and he's like, I don't think I'm gonna, I don't think I'm gonna come.
- 38:43SPEAKER_55: I think traffic's gonna be too terrible, blah, blah, blah.
- 38:46SPEAKER_55: And then his best friend who showed up, uh, uh, was like, yeah, it took me 20 minutes to get downtown.
- 38:51SPEAKER_55: It was the easiest traffic ever because again, nobody's coming in.
- 38:54SPEAKER_55: Listen, and the funny thing is, um, yeah, you had folks who were never Trumpers who had to admit that this was a a pretty good thing.
- 39:05SPEAKER_55: Um, I had a, I won't say who it was, but I had a family member.
- 39:08SPEAKER_55: One family member in a family group chat talked about how much they appreciated the race.
- 39:13SPEAKER_55: Somebody else popped in and said, well, it went off well.
- 39:16SPEAKER_55: I was just really worried that one of these indie cars was gonna go flying into the uh into the into into a museum, into one of the art museums.
- 39:24SPEAKER_55: And I'm like, oh my, it was just like a massive sort of sort of groan there.
- 39:28SPEAKER_56: No, tell me you don't know anything about racing without telling me you don't know anything about racing and the safety measures that they have in place.
- 39:35SPEAKER_55: Exactly.
- 39:35SPEAKER_55: So listen, I I hope this comes back.
- 39:37SPEAKER_55: I think it's a great idea to bring this stuff.
- 39:39SPEAKER_55: I know folks who came into town specifically for it.
- 39:43SPEAKER_55: Um it'll only, I think it only gets bigger and better.
- 39:46SPEAKER_55: Um so sure.
- 39:48SPEAKER_56: Well, if anybody, and if anybody's asking, you know, based off of my my opening comments why it was so great, I just want to I just want to touch on this briefly.
- 39:56SPEAKER_56: It was a really good reminder of how and I gotta, I'm gonna use this carefully, how normal people, how normal people sort of react to things.
- 40:05SPEAKER_56: And what I mean by that, I just mean you're every average A India, every, you know, average, everyday individuals that don't necessarily follow politics the way that, the way that I do, those that listen to the show or or you do.
- 40:16SPEAKER_56: In the run-up to the show, it was incredible to hear all of these prominent voices within motorsports talking so positively about the prestige and the importance of this event taking place in DC, when they are pre-race going and showing the track layout, and they're passing by the Smithsonian and the Washington Monument and the and the White House and the and the Capitol.
- 40:41SPEAKER_56: And you can hear in their voice in the commentary, you know, that level of respect post-race.
- 40:49SPEAKER_56: Uh when the the winner talking to the media and not doing a shout out to Trump, but just basically pointing to the White House, knowing Trump and Melania are watching, saying that he's from Florida, where the president is from, there's no controversy.
- 41:02SPEAKER_56: It was just such a refreshing moment to see the level of prestige and respect being paid to our nation's capital at a time of extreme politicization.
- 41:15SPEAKER_55: Well, right.
- 41:15SPEAKER_55: And what happens when you take the politics out of it?
- 41:18SPEAKER_55: And let me contrast that with the Great American State Fair, which because the various states were participating and because you have political leaders in those states, became a political thing.
- 41:29SPEAKER_55: And it became a whole sort of political issue as to which states are going to send delegations and what they're going to send and how who's going to participate and how they're going to participate.
- 41:37SPEAKER_55: And so the goal was to ruin it, right?
- 41:41SPEAKER_55: That was that was just it.
- 41:42SPEAKER_55: But when you're talking about an event that is driven by the marketability of it at the end of the day and reaching the broadest base of the audience, and you don't have sort of political leaders uh um interfering in it, um, that's when you that's when you get events like this.
- 41:58SPEAKER_55: I mean, let's forget this, this probably wouldn't have happened four years ago.
- 42:02SPEAKER_55: I know that you know the president was talking about this kind of a thing, but at the end of the day, this really the the the kickoff uh uh uh Freedom 250 really had to occur, you know, at the nation's 250th birthday.
- 42:16SPEAKER_55: And I think when all is said and done, you know, one of the things folks are gonna look back on when they look back on America's 250th birthday, in the same way, for instance, you know, folks from New York um uh you know look at uh op sale from 1976, all the tall ships going up the Hudson River, folks are gonna look at at this as one of those you know marquee events of the summer of America's 250th birthday celebration.
- 42:39SPEAKER_56: Well, I'm I'm uh I'm sure the commentary will soon uh shift uh over to the fact that on Friday, the U.S.
- 42:45SPEAKER_56: Supreme Court says the construction of the uh the monstrous, the monstrosity that is the I'm I'm joking, by the way.
- 42:52SPEAKER_56: Right.
- 42:52SPEAKER_56: Uh the White House, uh, the White House ballroom project can now continue for now.
- 42:56SPEAKER_56: The temporary order came from Chief Justice John Roberts, and it does allow the work to continue while the high court considers the Trump administration's emergency um appeal.
- 43:06SPEAKER_56: Do you think that the left is gonna go and grab onto this and make a big issue about it again?
- 43:10SPEAKER_56: Or do you think they're done with it and they're move or and they're moving on?
- 43:13SPEAKER_55: No, no, no.
- 43:13SPEAKER_55: Listen, I I I think I think most of America's moved on a long time ago for from this issue.
- 43:19SPEAKER_55: I think the left never, never gives up, and the more that they can make, hey, I mean, does this rise to the level of other Supreme Court cases where they're gonna use it as a as a cuddle to try to expand the court or reform the court?
- 43:30SPEAKER_55: Do whatever Hakeem Jeffries was threatening a couple of weeks ago uh with all of this?
- 43:35SPEAKER_55: Uh probably not, but at the end of the day, you know, the the building of the White House ballroom is gonna continue to be a story, you know, going into the midterms and going into I mean, not that most folks care about this um, you know, going into the midterms, but certainly it'll be one of those things.
- 43:52SPEAKER_55: And and right, you know, as as uh um uh Jeffries and Jamie Raskin have been threatening to sort of uh re-up the impeachment factory.
- 44:02SPEAKER_55: Uh I'm certainly this is going to be the ballroom itself is going to be uh a factor in whatever post-election 2026 impeachment proceedings the Democrats uh move forward with.
- 44:16SPEAKER_56: Uh last week uh you and I, Andrew Langer, had a conversation about uh JD Vance, talking um about his views uh over uh some very uh well-known and respected economists.
- 44:26SPEAKER_56: I know you have a new Wall Street Journal opinion piece.
- 44:29SPEAKER_56: I'm assuming this is dovetailing off of the conversation that you and I had uh last week on the issue.
- 44:33SPEAKER_55: It is.
- 44:33SPEAKER_55: It's it's a couple of things, John.
- 44:35SPEAKER_55: And and this is actually it's really interesting because there is a much broader debate happening that I was only sort of tangentially aware of.
- 44:43SPEAKER_55: Some colleagues and I got to talking about a couple of different things.
- 44:47SPEAKER_55: You know, Vance was on talking about uh reserve currency in America and and the dollar and all of those things.
- 44:53SPEAKER_55: And and it launched into a a more general discussion of the pro-Vance camp versus the anti-Vance camp.
- 45:00SPEAKER_55: And so I wrote sort of an impassioned discussion sort of putting the thoughts you and I talked about on paper.
- 45:05SPEAKER_55: What do I mean by this?
- 45:06SPEAKER_55: Never assume anything.
- 45:08SPEAKER_55: JD Vance a couple of weeks ago uh was on the Michael Knowles show and he was talking about uh how we are now Milton Friedman's laissez faire free market economics is very passe.
- 45:19SPEAKER_55: Now I know if you're like me you know when you grew up uh uh uh you know coming of of political and probably economic age in the age of Reagan you sit there and you go well no you know Milton Friedman and and Friedman's you know laissez faire economics is at the core of of who I am and how I approach politics and government and public policy.
- 45:38SPEAKER_55: And then for Vance to go and then declare that he's more of a Hamiltonian and I'm certainly out of that Jefferson camp.
- 45:45SPEAKER_55: So I wrote this piece you know be because of that and and was encouraged to submit a version of it to the Wall Street Journal.
- 45:51SPEAKER_55: It isn't up yet it's hopefully going to go up sometime in the next couple of days.
- 45:56SPEAKER_55: But part of it is also um David French uh we all know the the former conservative he still considers himself a conservative but he's writing in the in the New York Times on Friday like literally Thursday I sent the draft op ed to a buddy of mine and Friday he sends me this uh piece from the New York Times and I of course you know drop an F-bomb to myself making similar arguments but different arguments uh his David French's arguments were all about some you know obscure Catholic doctrine and trying to explain why JD Vance wasn't a a Catholic um but the point is is that is that also David David French isn't trying to speak to conservatives and folks who are nominally disposed predisposed to be Trump supporters um and explaining sort of the difference between Vance's approach and Trump's approach and and and and these other these other things and why Vance's uh uh views are um shall we say concerning i i would I will I will leave it at that we could use sort of uh stronger stronger language um you know I'd I'd like to think that my piece is is better written than David French's piece but folks will folks will judge that the the bottom line is we've got a very serious debate as conservatives uh and conservatarians libertarians uh going into the 2028 election which is what is the vision of of government how much if any government intervention in the economy do we do we want um and what does it mean when you know JD Vance talks about you know uh a government you know intervention in the economy you know via the lens or through the lens of Christian guardrails whatever that means uh which is what he said on the Michael Knowles show uh and so we need to be asking ourselves these questions and again I contrast that with what you and I talked about last week which apparently has now been memed everywhere which is for instance and I'm not saying that I'm all in for Marco Rubio going into 2028 but Marco Rubio's comments about not following uh RFK Jr's Maha diet of of uh uh protein and sauerkraut and and liking his Pop Tarts from time to time I think if you pull the average conservative uh they're going to say that they favor an environment in which an American is free to go out and get you know a a a Big Mac Pop Tarts and some diet Coke uh as opposed to having somebody sitting in Washington DC uh being very prescriptive about what they're what they're eating and what their behavior is how much do you think uh Andrew Langer um how much do you think the 2028 presidential election plays into the comments coming from from Vance and and Rubio do you think this is more of just their sharing commentary, their views on these particular issues or do you think there is a bit of framing for these individuals moving forward knowing that you know they may be running against each other in a in a primary heading into 2028?
- 48:50SPEAKER_55: Election 2028 starts in in about 12 weeks right I mean you know I I've never do math on the air John you know this I don't know how many weeks it is between now and the midterm election day in early November uh nine weeks let's say 10 weeks but the point is that's when election 2028 begins and Vance has seen now Vance is still leading in the polls right going into 2028 but uh um uh Marco Rubio has been steadily rising and I think has cut uh Vance's lead by 10 points.
- 49:20SPEAKER_55: Uh and I'm not saying that Vance uh that either of them are particularly campaigning campaigning um but certainly they're both very cognizant that they are the Republican front runners going into 2028.
- 49:31SPEAKER_56: Talking with uh Andrew Langer, the president of the Institute for Liberty here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment if you want to leave us a comment you can leave us a uh blast at 612 584 4565.
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- 49:44SPEAKER_56: Also email john dotjustice at americanexperiment dot org I'm looking at a local uh KSTP I see a headline here Andrew Langer and it seems to be a headline every single day over the course of the past few weeks for various municipalities here in Minnesota.
- 49:59SPEAKER_56: Flock camera debate grows as Dayton St.
- 50:03SPEAKER_56: Paul City Council set to take action this is happening in I mean again there seems to be a new story every single day of another area where they adopted these cameras and now they're broiled in controversy.
- 50:16SPEAKER_55: They're taking them down they're pausing uh your thoughts on the explosion of controversy surrounding these license plate flock of cameras listen I'm I'm I'm not surprised I mean I think at the end of the day it it you know again you and I were just talking about folks who don't necessarily pay attention to politics and policy they go and live their lives and and this is I think an emblematic example you know we all talk about the adage of you know you throw a frog in a pot of boiling water it'll hop right out but you raise the temperature slowly and it'll cook itself to death um I I I think this is what we've seen with with the issue of of the flock cameras in this ginzon sort of the the ring camera issue right which was this idea of you know ring was giving cameras to municipal police forces and then they were giving them out to people this is a little different because there's sort of the active monitoring side of it.
- 51:05SPEAKER_55: It gets into John I don't know if a couple weeks ago we talked about I think we did talk about my interview with Market Who and my discussion with Wayne Cruz at CEI about the issue of AI and my fears about AI are not really about AI stealing our jobs or AI turning all of our kids into gay perverts.
- 51:21SPEAKER_55: My concern is AI being used as part of the surveillance and enforcement state um because you know what happens is you combine the AI works because of mass you know mass data right and I'm not saying mass data collection though that's what this is but you know the the whole reason why you you know talk to chat GPT about you know what what uh what it is and it'll tell you I look at I read everything and I digest stuff very quickly.
- 51:48SPEAKER_55: So if you're putting together massive databases of license plate readers um it it you know used to be the the police force didn't have law enforcement didn't have the technology to sort of paint a picture with with that now with AI it's very easy to paint those pictures and and so in the same way that a lot of us I don't know where you are john on the issue of speed cameras in and law enforcement I I'm I'm fine nominally with speed cameras but not when they're used to generate you know revenue for for municipalities as opposed to safety and security um you know I I this this issue of of license plate readers uh and the collection of that data and the use of that data uh that's very disturbing and distressing and you can plot listen you combine it with you know getting rid of paper currency and requiring digital currency for people and I I don't want to get all conspiracy theory on you but you know when you when you take the ability to make choices out of consumers um out of the hands of individuals um and and you sort of put it in the hands where everything they're doing is being watched constantly and we can get into how this is already being done by corporate America um but you know listen this is if you were concerned about the need to have a vaccine record before you could go out and do stuff um you know during COVID you should be very concerned about the mass deployment of flock cameras and the more to the point the collection of that data and how that data is being used.
- 53:19SPEAKER_56: Well and you you make a you make a good point and it's relevant relating to this conversation the rise of AI, um privacy flock cameras, but going back to the speed cameras you mentioned, I'm kind of with you along the same lines.
- 53:34SPEAKER_56: You know, I as long as it's not being used as collecting revenue if it's done appropriately I'm okay with it.
- 53:39SPEAKER_56: But we had similar conversations again when that technology emerged because there were concerns over constitution, you know, the the constitutionality of it whether or not you are having your you know this is an invasion of privacy.
- 53:52SPEAKER_56: And now we're at this point relating to AI where we have to look at this unfortunately through that slippery slope lens.
- 53:59SPEAKER_56: What kind of precedent are we setting now using this technology and is it going to open the door for other means of using this technology in order to go and regulate us I don't think that people I don't think people understand yet exactly where AI can go and what it can do.
- 54:16SPEAKER_56: It can reach it will reach a level where you could have a monitor in your car you could have AI examining you on a moment by moment basis and basically determine you are too upset to be driving your automobile and it shuts it down or tells you you have to get off the road within a matter of of minutes.
- 54:31SPEAKER_55: And so we have to have these conversations Andrew a hundred percent John that's it that's exactly what we need to do is we need to have this understanding of you know where is the expectation of privacy you know and and you know that's essential with this professor Margaret Who, William and Mary, H E U, is how you spell her last name Margaret Who she's written a book about AI and and you know she and I chatted about this you know the lunch hour podcast uh about a month ago.
- 54:55SPEAKER_55: And you know it it always comes down to if there is a general expectation of in terms of the relationship between the government and the individual there is a precedent for X, you know, the expectation of privacy in this sphere, uh the expectation of privacy in that sphere, the role of due process, right?
- 55:13SPEAKER_55: If they're the expectation of due process, then it should apply, right?
- 55:17SPEAKER_55: If we if as you and I have talked about if the Second Amendment applied to a, you know, a a uh a a full bore musket, you know, 250 years ago um because that was the technology of the time uh or if the First Amendment applied to the printing press and we know it applies to you know what you say on TV or the radio, your computers or on the internet in a in a wonderful podcast by American Experiment, um, you know, then then the same things apply down the road.
- 55:45SPEAKER_55: It's it's uh um uh essential, you know, or Aristotelian logic there.
- 55:51SPEAKER_55: It's uh uh geometric logic.
- 55:54SPEAKER_56: Andrew uh Langer, president of the Institute for Liberty.
- 55:57SPEAKER_56: We will uh wrap up our conversation there.
- 55:59SPEAKER_56: What have you been involved in uh that those that have been enjoying our little chat can go and check out speaking of which, you know, I have uh a new episode of the Launch Hour Podcast goes up today.
- 56:08SPEAKER_55: This is my Washington Signal weekly podcast deep dive into public policy I sit down with Elizabeth Nolan Brown from Reason and we talk a little bit about AI.
- 56:16SPEAKER_55: We talk about COSA, the Kids Online Safety Act.
- 56:19SPEAKER_55: What could possibly go wrong if state governments force companies, if you are an adult, uh to keep massive databases of adults signing up for, shall we say, more adult content on the internet?
- 56:31SPEAKER_55: What could possibly go wrong with with that?
- 56:33SPEAKER_55: And then of course please keep your eyes peeled out for peeled out.
- 56:36SPEAKER_55: Please keep your eyes peeled for this uh um this op-ed it'll be my first ever in the Wall Street Journal.
- 56:42SPEAKER_55: I'm very proud of that.
- 56:43SPEAKER_55: Uh following me on X, thanks.
- 56:45SPEAKER_55: Follow me on X uh at Andrew underscore Langer.
- 56:48SPEAKER_55: Oh by the way when you follow me on X, I did Newsmax yesterday.
- 56:51SPEAKER_55: I seem to be doing newsmax you know once a weekend these days uh I I I'm I've become kind of a utility infielder um for them.
- 56:59SPEAKER_55: So it's it's uh so so you know if you're following me on X at Andrew underscore langer you'll you'll see it all.
- 57:05SPEAKER_56: Yeah a much uh a much a much larger establishment than this little show.
- 57:08SPEAKER_56: So uh Andrew uh Andrew Langer man it's always great yes it's always always great to uh to hear from you thank you so much for the time this morning my friend thank you bud see you later on uh coming up we are gonna get you uh up to speed on the uh Minnesota State Fair get you caught up a couple of items we've uh we've talked about the issue of uh the potential for gang activity of course capitulation has taken place there we don't have to worry about it nearly as much and also the drag review uh show which isn't going to be and we we discussed this briefly when we brought up the drag review and the the drag queen performances at the Minnesota uh state fair um we did bring it up but I just I want to kind of focus on it a bit this isn't going to be isolated to one location they're gonna be doing pop-up events all around the the fair which I take a much bigger issue with and we'll talk about that coming up in the second hour of the of the show remember when you have the opportunity maybe right now head on over to M-I-N-N-E-L-E-A-F.com that's minile dot com locally uh run and owned by Eric and his wife and their mission is for you to live a better life through their products and I can uh certainly vouch for that the mini leaf night gummies are my go-to every single night to ensure that I get a good night's sleep.
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- 59:10SPEAKER_06: And there were posts circulating on social media from members of these gangs saying that basically they were going to continue that line of violence at the state fair this year.
- 59:18SPEAKER_06: And thank God, you know, law enforcement perked their ears up and so now officials in Ramsey County are working with the Minnesota Attorneys General's office to look at using a a very rarely used law or excuse me state statute called the Minnesota Civil Gang Nuisance Law to try and prevent that violence from happening.
- 59:37SPEAKER_06: The law would allow officials to sue gang members and prevent them from associating, intimidating annoying provoking or threatening others in and around the state fairgrounds between August 27th and September 8th, 2026.
- 59:51SPEAKER_06: So they're asking basically a judge to issue an injunction and allow them to use this statute statute.
- 59:57SPEAKER_06: If the injunction is issued they would have the legal authority to proactively detain gang members listed in the suit who violate certain conditions such as associating with one another at the fair.
- 1:00:09SPEAKER_06: And this is brilliant because otherwise law enforcement is only able to do something after a crime has taken place.
- 1:00:15SPEAKER_06: This is something they could do on the front and to prevent it from ever happening.
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- 1:02:04SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 1:02:05SPEAKER_06: Well not only is it ideologically unwise in my opinion to be trending that way but our budget can't handle it.
- 1:02:10SPEAKER_06: This is a completely unsustainable path that we are on even with how much our spending has already grown it's still growing on this area of welfare programs.
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- 1:03:42SPEAKER_56: You heard some commentary there from uh Grace Keating here at Center of the American Experiment talking about uh the gangs at the fair.
- 1:03:49SPEAKER_56: We'll talk a little bit more about the state fair coming up in just a bit.
- 1:03:52SPEAKER_56: Got an email a moment ago, John dotjustice at AmericaneExperiment.org from a friend of the show who is, you know, upset and justifiably so uh because of uh the the drag queens uh at the uh at the event and it's interesting the response that they received um over their frustration may run counter to what actually is going to take place and so we'll dive into the details of that again coming up a little bit uh later on this uh this hour.
- 1:04:22SPEAKER_56: So a couple of items that I didn't get a chance to cover in the first hour of the show that I want to touch upon.
- 1:04:26SPEAKER_56: First off, an update on what's been going on with the war in Iran.
- 1:04:30SPEAKER_56: The media has become kind of disinterested in all of this right now but we may actually be making some progress on the economic pressure front.
- 1:04:40SPEAKER_56: Iran's parliamentary speaker uh Mohammed back here uh Kwalabaf Kuala Baf I asked producer Devin he said it was Qualabaff that's a total lie I didn't even talk to Devin about this at all I don't want to go and throw him under the bus.
- 1:04:56SPEAKER_56: I'll take the credit if you're right though.
- 1:04:58SPEAKER_56: Okay, okay cool.
- 1:04:58SPEAKER_56: Well if I'm right and it's Qualab I guess the real question is do any of us really care?
- 1:05:02SPEAKER_56: I don't he's part of a murderous a murderous regime.
- 1:05:06SPEAKER_56: Uh he warned the country's economic crisis could threaten its national security and political stability.
- 1:05:12SPEAKER_56: He emphasized the need for economic growth investment and increased domestic production to ensure Iran's resilience stating that military power alone cannot guarantee the survival of the state an uprising in Iran could be the key to winning this war.
- 1:05:26SPEAKER_56: It's what I've been talking about since the start of Operation Epic Fury and the ongoing efforts by the Trump administration and Pete Heggseth and the Department of War to keep Iran from developing a nuclear weapon to set the people of Iran free from the murderous regime which has taken longer than I think the administration had had hoped and I think a lot of us had hoped.
- 1:05:48SPEAKER_56: The comments though represent striking acknowledgement from inside of Iran's leadership that the country's economic crisis could threaten its ability to maintain national security and political stability.
- 1:06:00SPEAKER_56: Said military power cannot be separated from economic strength, describing the security economy as two wings that depend upon another.
- 1:06:08SPEAKER_56: You cannot fly with one wing.
- 1:06:12SPEAKER_56: You know, more profound words probably will not be spoken on the show today.
- 1:06:16SPEAKER_56: If you take anything away from today's show, or if we were naming the podcast, it should be called You Cannot Fly with One Wing.
- 1:06:24SPEAKER_56: You're just gonna be flapping it.
- 1:06:26SPEAKER_56: Just be flapping that one wing.
- 1:06:30SPEAKER_56: Without security, Kuala Bav said, uh, investors will not risk their capital, but without economic growth, domestic production, and sufficient income for ordinary citizens, the government cannot sustain security indefinitely.
- 1:06:42SPEAKER_56: Now, his message was straightforward: missiles and military power alone cannot guarantee the survival of the Iranian state.
- 1:06:47SPEAKER_56: For Iran to remain strong, Kuala Bav said the government must also provide an economy capable of supporting its people.
- 1:06:54SPEAKER_56: And without both, he warned Iran will not be able to endure.
- 1:06:57SPEAKER_56: So, again, um war is hard, just like selling books is hard, if not harder.
- 1:07:04SPEAKER_56: Probably a bad correlation between the two, but I always talk about how selling books is hard and war is hard.
- 1:07:08SPEAKER_56: Uh, this administration does continue to struggle to bring in an end uh to the conflict that we started, justifiably, in my opinion, but to be able to bring Iran to its knees so that people can rise up and take over.
- 1:07:23SPEAKER_56: Um, we may be getting closer.
- 1:07:25SPEAKER_56: The economic pressure might be working based off of these uh statements.
- 1:07:28SPEAKER_56: So we'll continue to keep an eye on um what's been happening via the Department of Defense, the Department of War, and Trump's new uh economic um D-Day, as he described it last week.
- 1:07:40SPEAKER_56: Mike Pence was talking with Fox News uh over the weekend and had this uh to say about Trump and his uh efforts on the war in Iran.
- 1:07:49SPEAKER_56: Here's what uh Pence had to say.
- 1:07:50SPEAKER_01: President Trump, uh turning to Iran, says the situation in Iran is so good, but six months into a war that he said would last about six weeks, he's stuck in a stalemate.
- 1:08:01SPEAKER_01: His sixty-day ceasefire expired, no signs of a peace deal or plans for further talks.
- 1:08:06SPEAKER_01: And this morning, Iran's president says that it is in a full-scale war with the U.S.
- 1:08:11SPEAKER_01: If you were still Donald Trump's vice president, what would you advise advise him to do right now?
- 1:08:18SPEAKER_12: Well, first I just want to reiterate, I think President Trump did exactly the right thing, taking the fight for the first time directly to the mullets in Tehran last year and again this year in Operation Epic period.
- 1:08:30SPEAKER_12: Our military did a brilliant job.
- 1:08:32SPEAKER_12: The USS Abraham Lincoln is steaming home.
- 1:08:36SPEAKER_12: Uh I I I know some folks that were flying aircraft off that ship.
- 1:08:40SPEAKER_12: Uh they took down 13,000 sites, but then they stopped, Dana, as you suggest.
- 1:08:46SPEAKER_12: We started into a period of ceasefires.
- 1:08:48SPEAKER_12: We negotiated the six um 60-day MOU, which turned out to be for naught.
- 1:08:54SPEAKER_12: Uh and I I think uh as the president announced strong new D-Day-style economic sanctions, it's going to be absolutely imperative that we keep the pressure on and that we keep the military assets in the region to be able to take the action that I believe is going to be inevitable.
- 1:09:13SPEAKER_12: Look, uh you don't make peace with your enemy.
- 1:09:16SPEAKER_12: You make peace with your defeated enemy.
- 1:09:19SPEAKER_12: And the kind of rhetoric you heard from the President of Iran this morning proves that uh the Iranians uh uh don't yet understand that they have been defeated, despite the fact that they have been, but I think it's gonna be essential that we keep the pressure on, keep the military assets in the region, uh, because I think the time is gonna come uh sooner rather than later when uh the president uh and our ally Israel are gonna have to go in and finish the job.
- 1:09:47SPEAKER_56: Yeah, and I agree with with Mike Pence.
- 1:09:50SPEAKER_56: Uh, and certainly the Trump administration uh wants to make headway um as quickly as possible to take the pressure off of the GOP candidates heading into uh November that might be hearing from their constituents regarding the impact that the conflict has had on prices here in the uh United States.
- 1:10:11SPEAKER_56: Speaking of the election coming up, Elon Musk reportedly plans to fund a massive ground operation to boost Republicans and spend up to 20, excuse me, 200 million dollars ahead of the midterms.
- 1:10:24SPEAKER_56: He's also relaunching his America Pack.
- 1:10:26SPEAKER_56: This is the same political group that spent hundreds of millions of dollars helping to elect Trump in 2024 with a heavy focus on battleground states.
- 1:10:34SPEAKER_56: The revived opera revived operation will prioritize door knocking, digital advertising, and direct mail to energized conservative voters who typically skip uh the midterms.
- 1:10:44SPEAKER_56: So if Elon Musk wasn't already hated, and he is, by those on the on the left, and I saw another, I was driving home, was it Friday?
- 1:10:53SPEAKER_56: And uh there was this, I don't even know what was like a Ford Fiesta or something like that, right?
- 1:10:59SPEAKER_56: Just this little, you know, hot wheel of a car, completely unkept, right?
- 1:11:04SPEAKER_56: It was just kind of a mess anyway.
- 1:11:05SPEAKER_56: They had in their in their in their rear or their rear window, and it was a sticker, but the the owner of the car apparently didn't want to didn't want to affix it actually to the window, so they had scotch taped it to the inside of the window, so probably not the sharpest tool in the shed.
- 1:11:22SPEAKER_56: But the uh the bumper sticker was uh at least it's not a Tesla.
- 1:11:25SPEAKER_56: I'm like, whatever.
- 1:11:30SPEAKER_56: No, this is this is good news.
- 1:11:32SPEAKER_56: And I'm glad that Elon Musk is getting involved.
- 1:11:34SPEAKER_56: And to serve as an example of why I'm glad Elon Musk is getting involved, because it takes this type of effort from individuals that have the means to do so to counter the propaganda that we typically see from your leftist mainstream media.
- 1:11:49SPEAKER_56: Case in point, this clip went viral over the weekend.
- 1:11:51SPEAKER_56: On CNN, they admitted censorship of President Donald Trump.
- 1:11:56SPEAKER_56: Brian Stuttler on air straight up talked about how they were censoring President Donald Trump.
- 1:12:03SPEAKER_56: Listen to this clip from CNN.
- 1:12:04SPEAKER_00: They did the same thing as this network, CNN, last night.
- 1:12:07SPEAKER_00: The newsrooms monitored the speech, evaluated if it was actually newsworthy, looked at the documents Trump was declassifying, and then reported on what happened.
- 1:12:15SPEAKER_00: NBC and ABC both went on the air with special reports to explain that the speech had happened and to summarize what Trump had said, but most importantly, to contextualize it and fact-check it, just as CNN did.
- 1:12:26SPEAKER_00: Now, Trump was ominously claiming that the networks were part of a plot, but the only real plot here, the only intention is to remain reality-based and truth-based.
- 1:12:35SPEAKER_00: Um, Trump's election lies led to violence after the 2020 election.
- 1:12:38SPEAKER_00: So this is a subject that really does warrant extra care and attention by journalists.
- 1:12:43SPEAKER_00: And frankly, some network executives felt that it would be dangerous to just air Trump's speech live in full, unedited, without knowing what he was going to say ahead of time.
- 1:12:52SPEAKER_00: That's where we are in America.
- 1:12:54SPEAKER_00: And we have been here before.
- 1:12:56SPEAKER_00: Remember during some of Trump's COVID-19 briefings in 2020.
- 1:13:01SPEAKER_56: It's another reminder of the mentality of the mainstream media.
- 1:13:08SPEAKER_56: You know, this is Pravda-esque.
- 1:13:11SPEAKER_56: It's censorship and it's insane.
- 1:13:15SPEAKER_56: The American public and the viewers of CNN, MS Now, Fox News, the majority of them are grown-up individuals.
- 1:13:23SPEAKER_56: That's why we have voting ages.
- 1:13:25SPEAKER_56: Right?
- 1:13:26SPEAKER_56: Your brain has developed to a point where science has determined that you now are intelligent enough to go and cast a vote in an election to decide the future for yourself and those around you.
- 1:13:41SPEAKER_56: Now, those that are watching the media, typically they're adults, but if they're children, they're not old enough to vote, so it doesn't matter.
- 1:13:47SPEAKER_56: Why am I saying all this?
- 1:13:49SPEAKER_56: Because people can decide for themselves everything that the mainstream media is attempting to go and decide for the viewer.
- 1:13:58SPEAKER_56: President Donald Trump, regardless of how much the left hates this, is a legitimate president.
- 1:14:05SPEAKER_56: Over half the country voted for him, put him into office twice with this horrible four-year gap in the middle of those two terms.
- 1:14:14SPEAKER_56: And just like any previous president, he should be granted the ability to go and hold a press conference and have it covered by mainstream media, without mainstream media deciding whether or not they want to, in their infinite wisdom wisdom, go and fact-check the president.
- 1:14:33SPEAKER_56: And with them admitting this on the air, it tells you how arrogant it's become and how pervasive this has become.
- 1:14:41SPEAKER_56: So, yeah, it's a good thing that Elon Musk is getting involved in this because this is the type of opposition that Republicans face constantly in a world of uh double standards, left-wing bias where they do not hold themselves to any standard.
- 1:14:56SPEAKER_56: Their only standard is that they can lie, they can spread information, it doesn't matter, they can be as hypocritical as they want to be, as long as it furthers in their minds the cause on the left.
- 1:15:11SPEAKER_56: Now, a lot of this may not be working anymore.
- 1:15:13SPEAKER_56: I have another piece here from uh Daily Wire.
- 1:15:15SPEAKER_56: CNN chief data analyst Harry Enton detailed the Democrats' party's uh flagging favorability numbers.
- 1:15:22SPEAKER_56: This happened uh earlier last week.
- 1:15:24SPEAKER_56: Although he was also careful to note that President Donald Trump was not faring any better in recent polls, he's not on the ballot for as much as the Democrats want to put him on the ballot.
- 1:15:35SPEAKER_56: But he didn't make it clear that Democrat uh Democrats still had serious work to do ahead of November's midterm elections.
- 1:15:41SPEAKER_56: What uh Enton did not address was the wide ideological chasm between the Democrats who ran and ultimately flipped a number of seats in the 2018 midterms and the Democrats who secured primary wins in the 2026 cycle.
- 1:15:55SPEAKER_56: Among the 2018 winners were two who eventually switched their party affiliation to either Republicans or independents.
- 1:16:02SPEAKER_56: You had New Jersey Representative Jeff Van Drew, now a Republican, and you had former Arizona Senator Kristen Cinema, who declared her affiliation to be an independent back in 2022.
- 1:16:14SPEAKER_56: Just eight years later, the big primary wins have gone to a number of far-left candidates who openly attack Israel, embrace socialism because they're communists, and even a few who are card-carrying members of the Democrat Socialists of America.
- 1:16:30SPEAKER_56: Well, what does the left do?
- 1:16:31SPEAKER_56: The left goes and falls over themselves in order to protect those Democrat candidates who might be aligned with the DSA.
- 1:16:39SPEAKER_56: We saw this happen last week in the Peggy Flanagan piece from the Star Tribune, wherein in that piece they said, you know, uh Peggy Flanagan is not a member of the DSA, but here is where she, here is where she aligns with the with the DSA.
- 1:16:54SPEAKER_56: Yeah, that was helpful.
- 1:16:55SPEAKER_56: I did not see the article for Michelle Tefoya saying that Michelle Tefoya is not MAGA, but here is where she aligns and doesn't align with MAGA.
- 1:17:03SPEAKER_56: Actually, to that point, there is an article regarding Michelle Tefoya.
- 1:17:10SPEAKER_56: Tefoya campaigned to focus on fraud while DFL ties her to Trump.
- 1:17:14SPEAKER_56: Republican U.S.
- 1:17:15SPEAKER_56: Senate Senate candidate in uh Michelle Tefoya's campaign will focus on fraud, holding Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan accountable for state-level uh fraud during her tenure.
- 1:17:23SPEAKER_56: Tefoya also emphasizes her independence from former President Donald Trump, despite previously asking him to not run for president again.
- 1:17:31SPEAKER_56: Now, this comes again as the Star Tribune last week ran cover for Flanagan, helping to distance her from the DSA label.
- 1:17:37SPEAKER_56: I did not see that follow-up in the Star Tribune, by the way.
- 1:17:42SPEAKER_56: I might have missed it.
- 1:17:43SPEAKER_56: I can be honest here.
- 1:17:46SPEAKER_56: Uh, one more note from this Daily Wire piece, and then we'll turn our attention um over to the Minnesota State Fair after I share with you a clip from uh CNN Scott Jennings, who is denying, by the way, that he is in the running to be the next White House press secretary.
- 1:17:59SPEAKER_56: That was the rumor with Caroline Levitt announcing her exit, was that uh Scott Jennings would be the White House press secretary.
- 1:18:05SPEAKER_56: It'd be a fantastic pick, mind you.
- 1:18:07SPEAKER_56: That would be great, but so far he's denying it.
- 1:18:10SPEAKER_56: Um, and as more moderate Democrats, the piece closes out, lose to primary challengers from the far left.
- 1:18:16SPEAKER_56: A number of others have opted to fall in line in an attempt to save their own skins, defending the rise of socialism by claiming the Democrat uh tent is big enough for everybody.
- 1:18:27SPEAKER_56: To that point, Scott Jennings was talking about the fact that uh you now have Hassan Piker, one of the worst of the worst on the left, and he's another one of these attention grabbers.
- 1:18:41SPEAKER_56: He has a right to his free speech, but it doesn't mean that his commentary isn't over-the-top and anti-American, because it absolutely is.
- 1:18:48SPEAKER_56: I question whether or not Piker, just like Jake Lang, which we'll talk about here in a bit, really do care as much about the issues they say they care about.
- 1:18:56SPEAKER_56: And at this point, maybe they started off that way, but at this point, are more about engagement farming and making money from over-the-top commentary than they actually are about furthering the cause.
- 1:19:06SPEAKER_56: Because there's an argument to be made that when it comes to Hassan Piker, he's doing damage to the Democrat Party just in the same way that Jake Lang is not really doing anything to go and promote conservative values.
- 1:19:16SPEAKER_56: Here is what um Scott Jennings had to say on CNN over the weekend.
- 1:19:19SPEAKER_03: Well, you know, I opened up my social media algorithm this morning, Maria, to find that the principal spokesperson for the Democratic Party, Hassan Piker, was leading a rally last night, reading a rally last night to celebrate to celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
- 1:19:33SPEAKER_03: So I I love I love the recitation of the talking points.
- 1:19:37SPEAKER_03: All of the energy in your party is behind a bunch of violent socialists who have taken over the messaging operation of the Democratic Party.
- 1:19:44SPEAKER_03: And look, midterms are historically good for the party out of power.
- 1:19:48SPEAKER_03: I wonder if Democrats are squandering their opportunity because they've outsourced all of their energy and messaging to people who want to fundamentally rip out the United States of America root and branch.
- 1:19:57SPEAKER_50: That message shriekes of desperation on behalf of Republicans.
- 1:20:01SPEAKER_50: Pick it up, take a look at it.
- 1:20:03SPEAKER_50: The midterm elections are just completely not going to be in their favor.
- 1:20:08SPEAKER_50: Defend it.
- 1:20:09SPEAKER_50: Because you look at the generic ballot Democrats are ahead, you look at where Americans think which party is going to handle the economy better.
- 1:20:16SPEAKER_50: Democrats are winning on that.
- 1:20:18SPEAKER_50: And Scott, I appreciate that you're trying to smear every single Democrat with the some of the craziness that you're talking about.
- 1:20:28SPEAKER_50: It's just not true, and the American people aren't buying it.
- 1:20:31SPEAKER_03: They're smearing themselves, Maria, by keeping people like this around.
- 1:20:35SPEAKER_56: He's absolutely right.
- 1:20:37SPEAKER_56: And her little deviation there speaks volumes, not addressing the commentary of a heinous individual like Hassan Piker, but instead focusing on what she believes is where the party is heading.
- 1:20:52SPEAKER_56: In her mind, in her commentary against Scott Jennings, all of what is being said is completely justifiable as long as Democrats go and win elections.
- 1:21:01SPEAKER_56: And that's what Democrats don't know right now.
- 1:21:03SPEAKER_56: This is what they're wrestling with.
- 1:21:04SPEAKER_56: Because if Democrats are able to make significant gains in November from these Democrat, socialists, and in my opinion, communist candidates, then you're going to see the Democrat Party lean fully and embrace what these individuals are talking about regarding how they want to see the United States of America transformed from what the founding fathers initially intended.
- 1:21:31SPEAKER_56: And I'm at this point, I'm not ready to say either way, whether or not the momentum is on the Democrat side.
- 1:21:36SPEAKER_56: When it comes to primaries, these are completely different beasts than general elections.
- 1:21:41SPEAKER_56: You cannot take primary results and really apply much when it comes to voter turnout, enthusiasm.
- 1:21:48SPEAKER_56: When it comes to the general election, it's a completely different ballgame.
- 1:21:52SPEAKER_56: It's a scary scenario that we're faced in in November.
- 1:21:56SPEAKER_56: I believe the GOP here in Minnesota specifically is poised better than they have been in decades to win statewide races.
- 1:22:06SPEAKER_56: But we're not going to know until we get past the election night.
- 1:22:11SPEAKER_56: A lot of questions and a lot of concern.
- 1:22:13SPEAKER_56: Speaking of concern, planned drag show performances.
- 1:22:19SPEAKER_56: State says alleged to Somali gang.
- 1:22:21SPEAKER_56: Members have agreed to stay away from the Minnesota Fair.
- 1:22:23SPEAKER_56: We'll update you on that story as we get you up to speed with the fair kicking off this week.
- 1:22:28SPEAKER_56: And further details.
- 1:22:30SPEAKER_56: A total of 11 arrested following the clashes at the Jake Lang far right rally in Minneapolis.
- 1:22:36SPEAKER_56: We'll provide details and commentary on that coming up in just a bit.
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- 1:24:54SPEAKER_07: Now that school's out for the summer, how are Minnesota students doing?
- 1:24:58SPEAKER_07: Not very well.
- 1:24:59SPEAKER_07: Minnesota ACT scores fell again last year and are the lowest they've been in ten years.
- 1:25:05SPEAKER_07: In fact, fewer than half of Minnesota students can either read or do math at grade level.
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- 1:25:41SPEAKER_52: There is certainly a culture at the City Council and at the mayor's office, again, over the last 10 years, that has just not been willing to hire police officers.
- 1:25:52SPEAKER_52: And we have seen rhetoric and action that has very much been about defunding the police.
- 1:25:57SPEAKER_52: We filed a petition called a Ret of Commandamus, which is basic basically a Latin word for we command, and where we're asking the court to hold the mayor to his duty and hire those police officers.
- 1:26:11SPEAKER_52: And we have tried to detail in our court papers the real world effect this has on people, including our brave clients who've come forward and put their name on court papers and who've experienced everything from bullet holes in their houses to family members who've been struck by a vehicle and in a hit and run never solved to personal vandalism at their homes and property where they've had property stolen, to murder in their neighborhoods where they don't feel safe, they don't feel protected, they literally feel they cannot go out at night.
- 1:26:48SPEAKER_52: Because we challenged it on behalf of the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus.
- 1:26:52SPEAKER_52: And we said this is a violation of the single subject and title clause of the Minnesota Constitution.
- 1:26:57SPEAKER_52: We are challenging this one section on behalf of our clients, the binary trigger clause, which had to do with how you define a trigger that can, with one pull, fire off multiple shots.
- 1:27:09SPEAKER_52: And that's smashed into this 1,400-page thing, right?
- 1:27:13SPEAKER_52: Yes.
- 1:27:13SPEAKER_52: That covers everything from health, higher education, firearms, energy, agriculture, human services, health, and paid leave.
- 1:27:20SPEAKER_52: Not a single subject.
- 1:27:21SPEAKER_52: The court in August of 2025 struck down the bill and s severed basically one provision relating to the binary triggers.
- 1:27:31SPEAKER_52: Judge Castro had some interesting words for this, and he said, out of respect for precedent favoring severance, I'm just gonna strike down the binary trigger amendment.
- 1:27:41SPEAKER_52: But then he says, quote, make no mistake, during the late hours of May 19, 2024, lawmaking did not occur within the framework of the Constitution.
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- 1:30:12SPEAKER_56: Uh Minnesota State Fair kicks off on a Thursday.
- 1:30:14SPEAKER_56: Again, we'll be there on Saturday.
- 1:30:15SPEAKER_56: Center of the American Experiment will be at uh the booth the entire day on uh Saturday, the 29th, this coming Saturday, right by the grandstands.
- 1:30:25SPEAKER_56: I think we're over by the uh by the Minnesotan uh booth as well.
- 1:30:28SPEAKER_56: So a shout out to my friends over there, Corey and the Minnesotan.
- 1:30:32SPEAKER_56: I will be there 11 until uh one o'clock on Saturday.
- 1:30:35SPEAKER_56: So I hope you'll uh come on by at that time and say hi.
- 1:30:39SPEAKER_56: It'd be fantastic to hear from you.
- 1:30:40SPEAKER_56: I still don't know how I'm gonna get there yet.
- 1:30:42SPEAKER_56: It's always a point of uh, it's always a I wouldn't say controversy when it comes to the family.
- 1:30:48SPEAKER_56: Like last year, I had Melinda and uh Kyle drop me off and I walked in from the neighborhood.
- 1:30:54SPEAKER_56: But even that was a little bit, that was a little bit clunky to try to try to do that as well, just because the streets get so crowded.
- 1:31:02SPEAKER_56: Last time I tried to actually go and park there, that was an absolute nightmare.
- 1:31:05SPEAKER_56: So um we were thinking about taking the bus, but man, I have such a hard time taking the bus.
- 1:31:11SPEAKER_56: I know there's locations around it.
- 1:31:12SPEAKER_56: That's probably what we'll end up doing.
- 1:31:14SPEAKER_56: Probably end up finding one of those one of those locations nearby.
- 1:31:17SPEAKER_56: I don't know, but with all the crime that's been going on with automobiles, that's what has me concerned.
- 1:31:21SPEAKER_56: I'll talk about this later on in the hour in the wake of the protests that took place.
- 1:31:26SPEAKER_56: But more smashed to car windows found in Minneapolis.
- 1:31:29SPEAKER_56: 87 car vandalism spree.
- 1:31:34SPEAKER_56: And they're not stealing anything.
- 1:31:35SPEAKER_56: It's just mayhem.
- 1:31:38SPEAKER_56: So we'll talk about that coming up here on the show.
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- 1:32:26SPEAKER_56: The transcription program said two phones, and so then when I heard him speak, I heard two phones, I do have two thumbs.
- 1:32:32SPEAKER_56: Yeah, I'm not doing that.
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- 1:32:36SPEAKER_56: Thanks for the suggestion, though.
- 1:32:38SPEAKER_56: All right, so the Minnesota State Fair, famous for its rides, events, vast array of food and beverages.
- 1:32:44SPEAKER_56: This year, however, drag shows are among the Minnesota State Fair's lineup of events, and they are facing backlash.
- 1:32:50SPEAKER_56: And people may be being lied to regarding the drag shows.
- 1:32:55SPEAKER_56: It really, you know what?
- 1:32:56SPEAKER_56: I I guess I'm partly to blame for this.
- 1:32:58SPEAKER_56: It really is unfortunate that we're spending this much time talking about the uh the drag shows.
- 1:33:04SPEAKER_56: That being said, people are talking about the drag shows.
- 1:33:08SPEAKER_56: So, according to the Minnesota State Fair schedule, power colon drag review, as we've been talking about on Freedom Friday and last week, will have multiple performances on August 27th and 28th at the state fairgrounds.
- 1:33:21SPEAKER_56: So no performances on Saturday when we're there.
- 1:33:24SPEAKER_56: So now, according to the Minneapolis-St.
- 1:33:27SPEAKER_56: Paul magazine, power colon drag review is a by POC focused musical sketch, doing that thing with my fingers, formed after the death of George Floyd that has a goal of expanding opportunities in the Twin Cities for historically unrepresented queer performers and artists.
- 1:33:49SPEAKER_56: So, first off, um, even before you get to the content that uh power colon drag review uh does, uh the fact that this was a troupe that was formed after the death of George Floyd already calls any sort of motivation that may have been benign into question.
- 1:34:14SPEAKER_56: I mean, any organization that's formed after the death of George Floyd.
- 1:34:16SPEAKER_56: Either way, the Instagram page for Power Colon Drag Review depicts as performers in exaggerated garish representations of women.
- 1:34:24SPEAKER_56: Several images on that page show apparent drag performers and revealing sexualized outfits to each their own, but do these performances in locations where it is appropriate, not out in the public for people to see, and that may be happening here, by the way.
- 1:34:41SPEAKER_56: Um, and this, you know, opportunities for underrepresented queer performers and artists, you know what never gets taken into account when somebody makes a comment like underrepresented?
- 1:34:53SPEAKER_56: They never talk about the fact that the underrepresentation is actually appropriate given the percentage of individuals that actually partake in this.
- 1:35:06SPEAKER_56: You see, typically in a case like this, where you have a very small percentage of the public, one are drag queens, and two, go and watch drag performances.
- 1:35:22SPEAKER_56: Okay, it is a very small percentage of the American population.
- 1:35:26SPEAKER_56: They gain a lot of attention because it tends to be controversial, especially when you have children that end up being involved and watching these sexualized performances.
- 1:35:36SPEAKER_56: But when it comes to the underrepresentation argument, in my opinion, it's not underrepresent, it's not underrepresented when you consider the percentage of individuals within society as a whole that are actually involved in this.
- 1:35:49SPEAKER_56: No, it's actually properly represented.
- 1:35:51SPEAKER_56: Cater to your audience.
- 1:35:53SPEAKER_56: You don't need further promotion for a group of individuals that, one, aren't drag queens and two aren't interested in going and watching drag performances.
- 1:36:03SPEAKER_56: Now, since the news of the drag shows broke earlier in the week, the planned performances have faced backlash.
- 1:36:10SPEAKER_56: Republican state representative, friend of the show, Representative Mary Franson, reacted to the news story about drag shows simply saying gross.
- 1:36:18SPEAKER_56: Former state representative Jeremy Munson, a current candidate for the Minnesota Senate, mentioned the drag shows in a list of fair events and said the state fair is no longer a place that we look forward to attending and continues in the direction of not being welcoming to families.
- 1:36:36SPEAKER_56: Meanwhile, many others were critical of the event online.
- 1:36:39SPEAKER_56: One person saying yet another reason to avoid the state fair, another saying that this is disgusting.
- 1:36:44SPEAKER_56: Now, Alpha News contacted the Minnesota State Fair with questions about the scheduled drag shows.
- 1:36:49SPEAKER_56: Among other things, the state fair was asked whether there's any age restrictions or advisories related to the drag performances.
- 1:36:58SPEAKER_56: Additionally, so they the state fair did not answer that question directly.
- 1:37:02SPEAKER_56: Instead, the state fair told Alpha News that we encourage everyone to use their own judgment in determining if a show is appropriate for them and their families.
- 1:37:12SPEAKER_56: Now, additionally, the Minnesota State Fair said that the doing that thing with my fingers, the artistic discipline of drag has a long history in theater and vaudeville and is an increasingly popular contemporary performance art uh form enjoyed by many.
- 1:37:31SPEAKER_56: First off, that's an insult to include this clown show with those other forms of entertainment, theater, and yes, vaudeville as well.
- 1:37:43SPEAKER_56: There is no doubt that there is controversy that follows these drag shows and that they are sexualized in nature.
- 1:37:52SPEAKER_56: It is inappropriate, and you cannot argue with me otherwise for children.
- 1:37:57SPEAKER_56: If you're a parent and you have gone and exposed your children to this material and these performances, yeah, I question your parenting skills and whether or not you are doing harm to your children.
- 1:38:14SPEAKER_56: Well, there's more to this, though.
- 1:38:15SPEAKER_56: The Minnesota State Fair noted that the fair strives to present programming that reflects a wide variety of styles and genres, and drag shows have been presented at the fair previously, most recently, part of the mental health awareness in Dan Patch Park.
- 1:38:31SPEAKER_56: Now you're on to something.
- 1:38:33SPEAKER_56: If you want to go and include drag shows, then yeah, mental health awareness in Dan Patch Park is probably the way to do it.
- 1:38:43SPEAKER_56: Now I got an email that came in, a friend of the show.
- 1:38:47SPEAKER_56: Kathy said, I sent an email to the State Fair guest to services saying that I would not be attending uh this year because of the drag shows.
- 1:38:56SPEAKER_56: This is what their response was.
- 1:38:58SPEAKER_56: Did they lie to me?
- 1:39:00SPEAKER_56: So the Minnesota State Fair representative responded saying, Thank you for reaching out.
- 1:39:03SPEAKER_56: Your feedback has been documented to clarify Power, Cole, and Drag Review will present 15 minutes of 15-minute performances in the afternoon of August 27th and 28th in a single designated spot on the fairgrounds.
- 1:39:20SPEAKER_56: However, Alpha News contacted Power with questions for the story.
- 1:39:26SPEAKER_56: The group responded in an email to Alpha News saying that their performances will be, this is a quote, doing that thing with my fingers, will be presented as pop-up activations throughout the fairgrounds and will be announced shortly before each performance takes place.
- 1:39:46SPEAKER_56: So uh to Kathy's point, yeah, I think they did lie to you.
- 1:39:51SPEAKER_56: Or they're just skirting with the details here.
- 1:39:55SPEAKER_56: Right?
- 1:39:55SPEAKER_56: A single designated spot on the fairgrounds that might be an accurate assessment, but it doesn't take into account that this is going to be pop-up performances that people won't know about until what, right before the event takes place.
- 1:40:11SPEAKER_56: So you get one of the ringleaders in this, this la la luscious L-U-Z-C-I-O-U-S, who apparently is one of the leaders of this power colon drag review.
- 1:40:24SPEAKER_56: So what, they pop up, he pops up and says, Hey, everybody, it's time for a performance.
- 1:40:30SPEAKER_56: And all the drag queens come out and they do their performance.
- 1:40:33SPEAKER_56: I mean, how big of a of a heads up is everybody going to get?
- 1:40:38SPEAKER_56: I'm sure that they will all uh look around to uh make sure that there are no uh children uh nearby when all of this uh takes uh takes place, right?
- 1:40:48SPEAKER_56: Thank you to those who have emailed, by the way.
- 1:40:50SPEAKER_56: I've gotten uh several emails from uh those of you that are sharing uh with me your thoughts of the letters that you sent to the Minnesota State Fair concerned over the uh over this.
- 1:40:58SPEAKER_56: Uh my initial point, because that email came in after the show started, and so when I first saw the quote from the from the troupe regarding how you know these will be pop-up activities throughout the fair and only announced shortly before each performance takes place, uh my initial thought to that was yeah, it's not enough to keep it in one location where people travel to they probably had a fear they wouldn't get enough people watching.
- 1:41:28SPEAKER_56: So, how do you avoid that?
- 1:41:30SPEAKER_56: How do you avoid the potential of one individuals protesting your event, which is possible because of families that may be upset that this is going on?
- 1:41:43SPEAKER_56: So, how do you avoid that?
- 1:41:45SPEAKER_56: Oh, you don't do it in one location at a particular time because then you don't have to worry about crowds either.
- 1:41:50SPEAKER_56: You do it where the crowds already are.
- 1:41:52SPEAKER_56: You pick a location in the middle of a group of where individuals uh are, and then you make an announcement and you do your pop-up review.
- 1:42:00SPEAKER_56: This is not about art, this is not about theater, this is not about vaudeville, this is about activism.
- 1:42:07SPEAKER_56: That's all that this is about.
- 1:42:10SPEAKER_56: A lot of comments are rolling into 612-584-4565.
- 1:42:15SPEAKER_56: That is the uh blaster line.
- 1:42:16SPEAKER_56: If you want to share your thoughts on the Minnesota State Fair.
- 1:42:20SPEAKER_22: Good morning, John.
- 1:42:21SPEAKER_22: Happy Monday.
- 1:42:22SPEAKER_22: You know, um, you don't see a lot of clowns anymore.
- 1:42:26SPEAKER_22: I've been to some crades lately, and I have not seen um any clowns in those in the last few years.
- 1:42:40SPEAKER_22: This is no different than those drag shows.
- 1:42:42SPEAKER_22: So I I'm not sure why they're trying to push her.
- 1:42:46SPEAKER_22: And honestly, I'm on a Roman one, so I can't play this, but it's like I I what kind of performance are they given?
- 1:42:54SPEAKER_22: You know, I I can watch a couple of kids dancing around the singing, and I don't know.
- 1:43:00SPEAKER_22: I I don't get it.
- 1:43:03SPEAKER_22: He's just disincentivizing their efforts for that stupid state fairly.
- 1:43:09SPEAKER_56: It's just it's unfortunate.
- 1:43:11SPEAKER_56: People get turned away from the state fair for all kinds of reasons.
- 1:43:15SPEAKER_56: Every single year.
- 1:43:16SPEAKER_56: I watched a documentary not too long ago about the state fair.
- 1:43:19SPEAKER_56: It wasn't about anything like this.
- 1:43:21SPEAKER_56: It was just about how fairs operate, how our Minnesota State Fair operates.
- 1:43:25SPEAKER_56: And, you know, not just anybody can come and go in and set up.
- 1:43:28SPEAKER_56: You have to go through an approval process, whether, you know, you're selling items, food items, whether you're, oh, when it comes to political parties and the rules that, you know, individuals have to abide by if you are setting up something politically related.
- 1:43:45SPEAKER_56: There's no reason why the Minnesota State Fair couldn't have said to this group, one, I don't expect that they would say no to them, because there are, you know, portions of the fair, this art de fair or whatever it's whatever it's called, there's a certain location where you have all these individuals performing different kinds of art of you know artistic content.
- 1:44:06SPEAKER_56: Uh, you know, listen, if people want to go directly to their watch a drag review, and it's off from where other individuals can just come on by and partake or children can see, that's fine, whatever.
- 1:44:15SPEAKER_56: I'm not gonna go there.
- 1:44:17SPEAKER_56: I don't agree with it, but if they're allowed there, you know, it's not the only group that I don't agree with at the Minnesota State Fair, but that's not what's happening here.
- 1:44:26SPEAKER_56: What's happening here is activism for everything that I just mentioned.
- 1:44:32SPEAKER_56: Let's get back to some more of your thoughts from the blaster line this morning here on the John Justice show, presented by American Experiment.
- 1:44:40SPEAKER_56: We're here from friend of the show, Brian, with this one.
- 1:44:45SPEAKER_40: My wife and a couple friends of ours, we used to go to the drag shows at the 90s once in a while.
- 1:44:50SPEAKER_40: Those were fun, but they were all adult uh shows.
- 1:44:55SPEAKER_40: And they were always adults that were in the room.
- 1:44:58SPEAKER_40: Um drag shows at the fair?
- 1:45:01SPEAKER_40: No, no, not at all.
- 1:45:04SPEAKER_40: It's irresponsible and it's unnecessary.
- 1:45:09SPEAKER_40: Glad you're here, John.
- 1:45:11SPEAKER_40: We needed you.
- 1:45:12SPEAKER_56: Thank you for that, uh, Brian.
- 1:45:14SPEAKER_56: I I uh I appreciate the uh the comments and keep those uh comments rolling into the blaster line at 612-584-4565.
- 1:45:23SPEAKER_56: Uh, I've never been to uh to a drag show.
- 1:45:26SPEAKER_56: I have been to a drag race.
- 1:45:28SPEAKER_56: Drag races are fun.
- 1:45:31SPEAKER_56: Not my favorite form of motor sports, but I like to watch on a on occasion if there's a following a NASCAR race and there happens to be a drag event uh going on.
- 1:45:39SPEAKER_56: That kind of drag I can I can get I can get on board with.
- 1:45:42SPEAKER_56: Have they done a uh well I know you had RuPaul's drag race, but have they put drag queens into drag racing cars?
- 1:45:49SPEAKER_56: It has to have been done at some point in time, right?
- 1:45:52SPEAKER_56: There's nothing new under the sun.
- 1:45:53SPEAKER_56: That can't be something that I just that I just came up with.
- 1:45:56SPEAKER_56: I just it just simply it just simply can't.
- 1:46:01SPEAKER_56: Here's a preview of the drag review.
- 1:46:14SPEAKER_50: This is a public service announcement.
- 1:46:17SPEAKER_19: Anyone dressed in introductions outfit, this is a sweet friendly reminder that you are safe here, show off your body.
- 1:46:28SPEAKER_56: Yeah, that's the extended uh the extended version of the them uh energy here on the John.
- 1:46:34SPEAKER_56: Justice uh show.
- 1:46:36SPEAKER_27: Listen, I'm from rural Minnesota.
- 1:46:39SPEAKER_27: But I got multiple county fairs near me.
- 1:46:42SPEAKER_27: Like, what is at the state fair that I would drive an hour and a half and deal with all that craziness for?
- 1:46:51SPEAKER_56: Pronto pups?
- 1:46:53SPEAKER_56: Funnel cakes.
- 1:46:55SPEAKER_56: Sweet Martha's cookies.
- 1:46:58SPEAKER_56: That's sweet Martha's cookies, right?
- 1:47:00SPEAKER_56: Not Martha's sweet cookies?
- 1:47:01SPEAKER_56: Yes.
- 1:47:01SPEAKER_56: Did I get that sweet Martha's cookies?
- 1:47:03SPEAKER_56: I was about to lose all credibility.
- 1:47:06SPEAKER_56: Are you a fairgoer, Devin?
- 1:47:07SPEAKER_56: Do you go to the fair?
- 1:47:08SPEAKER_56: I haven't been to the state fair in a few years, but I do enjoy it.
- 1:47:11SPEAKER_56: Yeah.
- 1:47:12SPEAKER_56: I'm looking forward to going on Saturday.
- 1:47:14SPEAKER_56: I'm legitimately looking uh looking forward to uh to going out and uh and checking out uh the state fair, handing out all the items.
- 1:47:20SPEAKER_56: I got boxes filled with stuff to hand out on Saturday between 11 and 1.
- 1:47:24SPEAKER_35: Morning, John.
- 1:47:25SPEAKER_35: Happy Monday.
- 1:47:26SPEAKER_35: You know, I didn't press pound the last time.
- 1:47:27SPEAKER_35: I don't know if you get the uh the blast if I don't hit pound sometimes.
- 1:47:31SPEAKER_56: Oh, by the way, I do I think I do get the blast whether or not you press pound or not.
- 1:47:37SPEAKER_56: I think that's the case.
- 1:47:39SPEAKER_56: Because I get a lot of people that leave two messages and I think they think the first one didn't go through.
- 1:47:43SPEAKER_56: I don't think it's necessary for you to go and press pound.
- 1:47:46SPEAKER_56: Either way.
- 1:47:46SPEAKER_35: Yeah.
- 1:47:46SPEAKER_35: I'd like to offer my service as absolutely free uh to pick you up somewhere near the fair and take Monty and you and drop you off, keep Monty safe for the hour you're there, and pick you up at the door of your choice.
- 1:47:59SPEAKER_35: Uh again, absolutely free of charge.
- 1:48:02SPEAKER_56: That is uh that is a that is very kind.
- 1:48:04SPEAKER_56: That is very kind of you.
- 1:48:05SPEAKER_56: I think uh no, I think I think the wife and I are um are formulating a uh a plan for Saturday.
- 1:48:11SPEAKER_56: At least that was the last conversation we had.
- 1:48:12SPEAKER_39: Good morning, John.
- 1:48:13SPEAKER_39: This is Vinny.
- 1:48:14SPEAKER_39: Talk about the state fair schedule.
- 1:48:16SPEAKER_39: I will be at the state fair the first Friday.
- 1:48:20SPEAKER_39: I was wondering if uh the merchant experiment booth will be open Friday to pick up some merchandise.
- 1:48:26SPEAKER_39: Or will you guys only be there on Saturday?
- 1:48:29SPEAKER_56: My understanding is that we will only be there on Saturday.
- 1:48:32SPEAKER_56: Saturday, the 29th, this coming Saturday is the day that the Minnesota that uh Center of the American Experiment will uh will be there.
- 1:48:38SPEAKER_56: So change your plans.
- 1:48:40SPEAKER_56: Just that simple, right?
- 1:48:43SPEAKER_56: Or head on over to americanexperiment.org, and there you can also go and pick up uh some of that uh merchandise as well.
- 1:48:49SPEAKER_56: Let's get back to more of your thoughts as well.
- 1:48:51SPEAKER_24: John with the state fair, just take the bus.
- 1:48:53SPEAKER_24: It picks you up right in Blaine, not too far from where you're at.
- 1:48:57SPEAKER_24: I know.
- 1:48:58SPEAKER_56: I was talking to Melinda about this.
- 1:48:59SPEAKER_56: I'll play more of your comment here.
- 1:49:01SPEAKER_56: I do not want to take the bus all the way from Blaine.
- 1:49:05SPEAKER_56: I just, I just don't.
- 1:49:07SPEAKER_56: It might be because I just watched speed over the weekend.
- 1:49:12SPEAKER_56: That's not really the reason why.
- 1:49:14SPEAKER_56: Well, actually, no, I take that back.
- 1:49:15SPEAKER_56: That is partly the reason why.
- 1:49:17SPEAKER_56: Because I was reminded how much I do not ever want to take public transportation because I don't want to be on a bus.
- 1:49:23SPEAKER_56: So, what we were talking about is actually driving down to a closer location and then getting on one of the shuttles and taking it in.
- 1:49:30SPEAKER_56: Uh, my dear friend uh Drew swore by the bus.
- 1:49:33SPEAKER_56: Uh, he wouldn't see he would get so pinkies up about taking the bus into the fair, justifiably so.
- 1:49:38SPEAKER_56: But he would go out of his way just just be like, John, I know you don't want to take the bus, but man, it was such a nice time.
- 1:49:44SPEAKER_56: It was air conditioned.
- 1:49:46SPEAKER_56: I did my Sudoku puzzles, it was the best.
- 1:49:51SPEAKER_56: So maybe I'll do that this year, just in honor of my dear friend who I miss.
- 1:49:55SPEAKER_24: It drops you off not too far from where you gotta go by the Minnesotan there.
- 1:50:00SPEAKER_24: Oh just so convenient.
- 1:50:02SPEAKER_24: Yes, kind of stinky, but just the convenience is well worth it.
- 1:50:08SPEAKER_56: I don't want, I don't want, I don't want kind of stinky.
- 1:50:11SPEAKER_56: I don't want any stinky.
- 1:50:14SPEAKER_56: No, what I want is to be able to drive Monty down, to not have difficulty finding a parking spot, to park Monty in a location that I know that it is safe from harm, and then go in and uh enjoy the Minnesota State Fair.
- 1:50:29SPEAKER_56: But unfortunately, I don't think that is a possibility.
- 1:50:32SPEAKER_56: For as much as people complain, just as I go off on a tangent here on a Monday morning, for as much as people complain um about the the price of going to like a theme park like Disneyland, because I went recently on my on the trip that on the road trip 2026 with uh with my son Kyle, uh, and and the fact that you got to drop, oh my gosh, I don't know, it's like another$20 just to park on top of the fee that it takes to actually get into the park, which is totally worth it in my opinion, because I love Disneyland.
- 1:51:01SPEAKER_56: Uh that being said, you can actually park there.
- 1:51:04SPEAKER_56: It is very convenient.
- 1:51:06SPEAKER_56: And it's a short walk down to the trams that take you right into the park.
- 1:51:10SPEAKER_56: I just look at it as part of the experience of going to the park.
- 1:51:15SPEAKER_56: It's like its own ride.
- 1:51:17SPEAKER_56: It's a little bit different, especially when you consider the amount of violence taking place against automobiles randomly, more smashed car windows found in Minneapolis after that 87-car vandalism spree.
- 1:51:29SPEAKER_56: The vandalism, which damaged vehicles in at least nine separate cases, is believed to be the work of a group of juveniles or a single masked individual.
- 1:51:39SPEAKER_56: And we'll get to this.
- 1:51:40SPEAKER_56: I got a lot of comments that have rolled in regarding the Minnesota State Fair that I want to get to, and we'll stick on this topic for a little bit since the fair kicks off this week.
- 1:51:48SPEAKER_56: But when I see a story like what's happening with this 87 car vandalism spree, these are juveniles who aren't even stealing anything.
- 1:51:56SPEAKER_56: They're vandalizing cars for sport.
- 1:52:00SPEAKER_56: These are things that rational individuals in Minneapolis, both conservative and liberal alike, can point to.
- 1:52:10SPEAKER_56: And directly to the failed leadership of Minneapolis Man, Baby, Mayor, Mom, Jeans, Jacob Fry, the Minneapolis City Council.
- 1:52:17SPEAKER_56: And it underscores how unproductive it is when individual conservative doing that thing with my fingers, provocateurs like Jake Lange have these really offensive free speech rallies that invite the real fascists, the antiphatypes to go and confront him, which ends up benefiting them more than it does anything relating to conservative causes.
- 1:52:45SPEAKER_56: We have stories of how Minneapolis is suffering under the weight of Democrat policies.
- 1:52:52SPEAKER_56: And it's unfortunate, and that's an understatement, that individuals like Jake Lang want to take advantage of the existing controversies to simply raise their own awareness in a reckless manner that does nothing to advance what he says that he's fighting for.
- 1:53:10SPEAKER_56: And I'll have more on that coming up on the show.
- 1:53:12SPEAKER_56: Let's get back to a uh a few of uh your thoughts on the Minnesota State Fair and the topics that we've covered this morning so far on the show.
- 1:53:19SPEAKER_28: Only time I've ever ridden the bus is to go to the state fair.
- 1:53:22SPEAKER_28: I always park at Roseville High School because it's like a five-minute drive, and then you don't have to get dropped off right at the gate.
- 1:53:28SPEAKER_56: Okay, so I've never never ridden the bus, so he parks at Roseville and then five-minute drive.
- 1:53:34SPEAKER_56: So that's from the rose from Roseville on the bus, right?
- 1:53:36SPEAKER_56: Okay.
- 1:53:37SPEAKER_56: How do you, when you go, how have you gone, Devin?
- 1:53:40SPEAKER_11: Well, I've always gone with my parents who want to get there at like six in the morning.
- 1:53:45SPEAKER_11: So the parking lot's pretty empty by then, so the parking's convenient then.
- 1:53:49SPEAKER_56: Do people rope drop the Minnesota State Fair?
- 1:53:53SPEAKER_56: I'm assuming they do.
- 1:53:53SPEAKER_56: Do you know what that means by the way?
- 1:53:54SPEAKER_56: Rope drop?
- 1:53:55SPEAKER_56: Okay, so at Disneyland, they have this thing called rope drop.
- 1:53:57SPEAKER_56: I'm back on Disneyland again.
- 1:53:59SPEAKER_56: But when you can you can actually enter the park prior to its actual official operation.
- 1:54:07SPEAKER_56: Okay, so they let you in, you can get on Main Street, you can do shopping.
- 1:54:10SPEAKER_56: But when you get to the town square, the circle at the end of Main Street, where the hub to where all the different lands are connected, uh, they have a rope ball set up.
- 1:54:21SPEAKER_56: And it's just it's blocked off through there.
- 1:54:23SPEAKER_56: And so what happens is people do rope drop.
- 1:54:25SPEAKER_56: They get there early, right?
- 1:54:27SPEAKER_56: And they and then they get as close to the rope as they can so that they're there the moment that the park goes into operation, all the rides open, they rope drop and they everyone goes rushing in, right?
- 1:54:35SPEAKER_56: It's just this, just this, this cattle, cattle of people going out to all the different rides.
- 1:54:40SPEAKER_56: It's a thing to be one of the first to get on Space Mountain, right?
- 1:54:43SPEAKER_56: So we've done rope drop and we've gone the past couple of times because it's fun.
- 1:54:46SPEAKER_56: So I'm assuming that must happen with the Minnesota State Fair.
- 1:54:48SPEAKER_56: There's got to be people that are there waiting in line to be there the moment that it opens.
- 1:54:51SPEAKER_56: Because I know people are hardcore about the state fair.
- 1:54:55SPEAKER_56: Like this is their.
- 1:54:56SPEAKER_56: I mean, and and again, it makes me feel better about my love of a theme park like Disneyland because and I can understand why people are, right?
- 1:55:03SPEAKER_56: It's a they were raised on it.
- 1:55:04SPEAKER_56: It's a, you know, it's been a tradition in their household for years, which is also why people get so frustrated when you have capitulation of gang members that wanted to come and do harm during the Minnesota State Fair, or these wholly inappropriate for children drag review shows that are apparently going to take place this year as well.
- 1:55:24SPEAKER_44: I think you should just have 15 to 30 people follow these drag queens around, and when they break into a spontaneous drag show, just have these 15-30 people surround them and break into a rendition of God bless America or something else, just to anger the beejeses out of these drag queens, like they want to do to the rest of the fair gords.
- 1:55:48SPEAKER_56: Yeah.
- 1:55:49SPEAKER_56: Um, in my view, they just need to be ignored.
- 1:55:54SPEAKER_56: It just needs to be ignored.
- 1:55:56SPEAKER_56: Don't bring further attention to it.
- 1:55:58SPEAKER_56: I understand what it is that you're that you're saying, and and I, you know, I feel that same sort of frustration.
- 1:56:04SPEAKER_56: Like I said, if this was being done in a location where it was going to be central, people would go and visit it, a destination that can be avoided by uh children.
- 1:56:15SPEAKER_56: That makes a lot more sense to me.
- 1:56:16SPEAKER_56: But that's not what they're doing with these pop-ups.
- 1:56:19SPEAKER_56: Because it's not just about the performances.
- 1:56:22SPEAKER_56: No, it's about it's about activism.
- 1:56:28SPEAKER_48: I wonder if they're paying for a vent, if they're getting around paying for a venue like the other vendors do by having the pop-up shows.
- 1:56:36SPEAKER_48: And they don't have to pay for that.
- 1:56:38SPEAKER_56: Yeah, that's interesting.
- 1:56:39SPEAKER_56: I know that they are supposed to be a part of a particular portion of the park where they have these types of performances.
- 1:56:47SPEAKER_56: So I my guess would be that more than likely they're not having they're they're not avoiding paying anything.
- 1:56:53SPEAKER_56: I mean, I would question whether or not they have to pay anything at all.
- 1:56:56SPEAKER_21: I have an idea.
- 1:56:57SPEAKER_21: They can open up a free show again on the midway.
- 1:57:01SPEAKER_21: They can have their spot there.
- 1:57:03SPEAKER_21: And a question for you: if you start to hackle down or get angry at them, who's gonna get kicked out?
- 1:57:10SPEAKER_21: Us.
- 1:57:10SPEAKER_21: For them.
- 1:57:11SPEAKER_21: Have a great day.
- 1:57:13SPEAKER_56: Well, can you imagine going back in going back in time and the you know, the previous iterations of the circus where they did have the the side freak show?
- 1:57:24SPEAKER_56: You know, think um, you know, more more recently in terms of pop culture uh references.
- 1:57:30SPEAKER_56: Um uh the greatest showman with Hugh Jackman, right?
- 1:57:34SPEAKER_56: Where he had his, you know, he embraced all these individuals for the Ring Ling Brothers and Barnum and Bailey um biopic that really wasn't based in reality at all.
- 1:57:43SPEAKER_56: But can you imagine going back in time and then telling them that this is now it's no longer deemed something off to the side?
- 1:57:51SPEAKER_56: They would probably look at the at the drag performers and say, you guys are being ridiculous.
- 1:57:57SPEAKER_56: Let's go here.
- 1:58:00SPEAKER_21: I've got a good place that they can be.
- 1:58:02SPEAKER_56: Oh, listen, my my apologies.
- 1:58:04SPEAKER_56: We uh had played that uh that uh clip already.
- 1:58:07SPEAKER_56: Let's go uh here.
- 1:58:08SPEAKER_24: John the left will flock to these shows at the state.
- 1:58:12SPEAKER_24: Just as they loaded vans full of people up in Minneapolis area to go up to Detroit Lake for a 7 a.m.
- 1:58:20SPEAKER_24: school board meeting because the school board banned rainbow flags.
- 1:58:24SPEAKER_24: These people are obnoxious.
- 1:58:27SPEAKER_24: They need to find something better to do with their time.
- 1:58:30SPEAKER_24: It just blows my mind.
- 1:58:32SPEAKER_56: Thank you so much for the commentary uh this morning.
- 1:58:35SPEAKER_56: We will get back uh to these issues and the issue of the protest that took place over the weekend on the uh streets of Minneapolis, the uh conservative uh provocateur uh who decided to hold a rally and had the antifa real fascists uh show up.
- 1:58:50SPEAKER_56: And um, protest insured.
- 1:58:52SPEAKER_56: Eleven people ended up being um being arrested.
- 1:58:55SPEAKER_56: One more uh quick uh comment as we get ready to head into the third hour here on the show.
- 1:59:01SPEAKER_30: Good morning, John.
- 1:59:02SPEAKER_30: Hey, how much do you want to bet at the state fair that they'll want to go do it over by the Kitty Midway, the education building, and the regular Midway.
- 1:59:13SPEAKER_30: I bet you they'll have pop-off performances on all three of those.
- 1:59:17SPEAKER_30: Mark, my words.
- 1:59:18SPEAKER_30: Have a great day, John.
- 1:59:20SPEAKER_56: Coming up in just a moment, uh, we should be uh speaking with congressional candidate uh Paul uh Wickstrom.
- 1:59:26SPEAKER_56: Uh recently had an editorial focusing on Betty McCollum, who the Star Tribune covered last week, becoming Minnesota's pipeline to the Pentagon, the defense industry taking uh notice while peace groups call McCollum's defense work a betrayal, and GOP rivals call it part of the swamp.
- 1:59:42SPEAKER_56: Hopefully, we'll be talking with Paul Wickstrom next here on the John Justice show, presented by American Experiment.
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- 2:00:06SPEAKER_14: And I think that's kind of the theme of today's episode is you're gonna hear politicians very soon tell you that there's nothing from this budget that they can cut because it is all essential.
- 2:00:15SPEAKER_14: It is all needed.
- 2:00:16SPEAKER_14: Well, just keep these in mind as an example as examples.
- 2:00:19SPEAKER_14: The sex chain surgery on the taxpayer dollars, the over you know, beyond uh welfare spending, the third the third most of any state in the country.
- 2:00:31SPEAKER_14: You know, keep those in mind when a politician looks you in the eye and says that no, actually, we need your tax dollars because all these things are super important.
- 2:00:37SPEAKER_14: When instead they could be looking at this budget and saying, yeah, actually we're gonna cut those uh sex chain surgeries, we're gonna cut some welfare spending for the people that don't actually need it, and keep it only for the people that do need it.
- 2:00:49SPEAKER_14: Because there is a sp there is a place for it.
- 2:00:51SPEAKER_14: You know, it's great.
- 2:00:52SPEAKER_14: We can help out some people that absolutely need it until they get back on their feet.
- 2:00:56SPEAKER_14: That's that's not what our system is at right now.
- 2:00:58SPEAKER_14: Absolutely not where our system is, and that is where it should be.
- 2:01:01SPEAKER_07: Think about it.
- 2:01:02SPEAKER_07: Now that school's back in session, how are Minnesota students doing?
- 2:01:05SPEAKER_07: Not very well.
- 2:01:07SPEAKER_07: Minnesota ACT scores fell again last year and are the lowest they've been in ten years.
- 2:01:12SPEAKER_07: In fact, fewer than half of Minnesota's students can either read or do math at grade level.
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- 2:01:20SPEAKER_07: Now we're losing to states like Mississippi.
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- 2:01:31SPEAKER_02: The Republican Party had really kind of pushed away, uh repelled uh a lot of the the working class.
- 2:01:39SPEAKER_02: And Trump's great insight was that the Democratic Party had pushed those people away too.
- 2:01:46SPEAKER_02: Uh they they were you know heavy in the sort of graduate school world.
- 2:01:51SPEAKER_02: And he realized these there are billions of these voters across Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin.
- 2:02:00SPEAKER_02: There's millions of them who were just waiting to vote for me, Donald J.
- 2:02:03SPEAKER_02: Trump.
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- 2:03:00SPEAKER_34: Let me back up.
- 2:03:01SPEAKER_34: What they found is that there is a man, his name is Seiko Dukelee, who has been the owner of at least two dozen group homes, mostly in the northwestern Twin Cities, and has collected at least$36 million in taxpayer funds over the past 10 years.
- 2:03:18SPEAKER_34: They seem to mostly be in the like Brooklyn Park, Brooklyn Center area, which is where there's a ton of group homes for whatever reason.
- 2:03:26SPEAKER_34: But what's insane about this is Dukoli is a government official in Liberia and doesn't even live in Minnesota.
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- 2:07:00SPEAKER_56: Let's get back to some of your thoughts this morning here on the show via the blaster line.
- 2:07:07SPEAKER_29: Yeah.
- 2:07:24SPEAKER_56: Well, I mean, this is the first year that we've dealt with drag queens and gang problems.
- 2:07:28SPEAKER_56: Although, you know, according to our Democrat leadership, you know, they've solved the gang problem.
- 2:07:35SPEAKER_56: Minnesota and Ramsey County secured agreements to keep the alleged Somali gang members away from the Minnesota State Fair.
- 2:07:41SPEAKER_56: The agreements were part of a lawsuit filed to prevent violence at the fair, citing past incidents involving gangs.
- 2:07:47SPEAKER_56: While some praised the preventive action, others criticized it as political theater.
- 2:07:51SPEAKER_56: Yeah, listen, it it's kind of both.
- 2:07:54SPEAKER_56: It's kind of both.
- 2:07:57SPEAKER_56: If these gangs are going to agree to not conducting acts of violence, that's all well and good, and I'm glad that's happening.
- 2:08:04SPEAKER_56: That being said, you can't help but feel like there is some legitimizing of these gangs in the fact that they received just so much attention.
- 2:08:13SPEAKER_56: Yeah, it was via a lawsuit, but it was instead of just telling them, hey, you can't do this here or holding them accountable up front, it's all just so strange.
- 2:08:25SPEAKER_56: We talked about it last week.
- 2:08:26SPEAKER_56: I just wanted to provide you an update, including some of the um some of the commentary from from leaders here in Minnesota regarding all of this.
- 2:08:35SPEAKER_56: Alpha News previously reported the Minnesota Attorney General's office and Ramsey County Attorney's Office together filed a lawsuit in an effort to prevent two rival Somali gangs from committing violence at the Minnesota State Fair when it starts this week.
- 2:08:50SPEAKER_56: Now, the Attorney General's office announced that seven of the ten alleged gang members have agreed not to attend the state fair.
- 2:08:58SPEAKER_56: What about the other three of the muddy and the villa?
- 2:09:04SPEAKER_56: I mean, are they still planning on going to the fair to commit acts of violence?
- 2:09:09SPEAKER_56: Just questions that I have.
- 2:09:11SPEAKER_56: Or be within the designated safety zone around the fair for the duration of the vent.
- 2:09:17SPEAKER_56: Can that designated safety zone also protect children from sexualized men dressing as women and gallivanting around like a bunch of morons?
- 2:09:25SPEAKER_56: Is that possible?
- 2:09:29SPEAKER_56: I'm just curious.
- 2:09:30SPEAKER_56: I'm just that's that's all.
- 2:09:35SPEAKER_56: Those seven individuals deny that they are gang members, Ellison's office said, uh, noting that the lawsuit against them will be dismissed if they comply with the agreement.
- 2:09:44SPEAKER_56: The court ruled that the remaining three individuals are member members of the Muddy Gang and prohibited them from partaking in gang-related activity at the fair or in the uh safety uh zone.
- 2:09:57SPEAKER_56: Others, however, were more skeptical of the action.
- 2:10:00SPEAKER_56: Minnesota State Representative, friend of the show, Walter Hudson, for instance, said, uh, it's clear that the only real concern here is the optics of the fair, not enduring public safety.
- 2:10:11SPEAKER_56: Senator Michael Holstrom said, uh, this is disgraceful political theater.
- 2:10:17SPEAKER_56: So it's okay if these men aid gang activity, just not in front of suburban voters at the fair.
- 2:10:23SPEAKER_56: Bill Glau, policy fellow here at Center of the American Experiment, had similar concerns.
- 2:10:27SPEAKER_56: Why do we have to negotiate with terrorist gangs to be allowed to hold the state fair?
- 2:10:32SPEAKER_56: He asked.
- 2:10:32SPEAKER_56: Who is in charge here?
- 2:10:37SPEAKER_56: Here's the problem with all of this.
- 2:10:38SPEAKER_56: I mean, among many different problems.
- 2:10:41SPEAKER_56: The problem with all of this is the baseline standard that was set up front regarding these these gangs.
- 2:10:48SPEAKER_56: And that is they were given legitimacy long before all of this took place.
- 2:10:55SPEAKER_56: They were announcing that they were going to go and conduct these acts of violence at the fair.
- 2:11:01SPEAKER_56: I've seen what appear to be flyers that were going around, where they were promoting that there would be this standoff between these two gangs.
- 2:11:10SPEAKER_56: What I've not heard is whether or not there were, you know, what other solutions were there beyond what it is they ended up doing?
- 2:11:22SPEAKER_56: Because it is an incredibly bad look.
- 2:11:25SPEAKER_56: You know, when I first heard about this lawsuit, I was like, what in the world?
- 2:11:28SPEAKER_56: What world are we living in where we have a lawsuit to keep them off the fair grounds?
- 2:11:31SPEAKER_56: How are we going to deal with this?
- 2:11:32SPEAKER_56: And as we got more information, that a lot of these individuals are very well known by authorities.
- 2:11:40SPEAKER_56: So what I'm wondering is, could we have achieved the same thing regarding these gang members without having to have meetings and agreements with them?
- 2:11:49SPEAKER_56: I ultimately, as long as these gangs are kept kept away from the fair, I think that's a good thing.
- 2:11:58SPEAKER_56: What I don't like is the fact that it Looks as if we've legitimized them and we shouldn't be legitimizing them in any way, shape, or form by giving them this type of attention and then coming to terms and agreements with them.
- 2:12:12SPEAKER_56: I don't know how much of that is an actual byproduct from the lawsuit or or or not.
- 2:12:19SPEAKER_56: Like I understand the frustrations that Senator Michael Holstrom has and Walter Hudson has as well.
- 2:12:24SPEAKER_56: I agree with their with their sentiment.
- 2:12:27SPEAKER_56: I'm just curious what other alternatives that there would have there would have been.
- 2:12:30SPEAKER_56: I don't have a firm answer on that, by the way.
- 2:12:35SPEAKER_56: I don't like you know giving these gang members more attention than they're than they're due.
- 2:12:40SPEAKER_56: So I'd be curious to get your thought to get your thoughts on that.
- 2:12:42SPEAKER_56: We can return to this coming up in just a moment uh before we get into the um arrest that took place with the Jake uh Lang uh rally in Minneapolis.
- 2:12:50SPEAKER_56: Right now, I want to welcome uh to the show John Justice Show presented by American Experiment.
- 2:12:57SPEAKER_56: Congressional candidate Paul uh Wickstrom uh joins us.
- 2:13:00SPEAKER_56: Good morning, Paul.
- 2:13:00SPEAKER_56: Thank you so much for coming on the show this morning.
- 2:13:02SPEAKER_56: I appreciate it.
- 2:13:03SPEAKER_56: Hey, can you hear me?
- 2:13:05SPEAKER_56: I can hear you just fine, Paul.
- 2:13:10SPEAKER_56: Paul, can you hear me?
- 2:13:14SPEAKER_56: Hey, John, are we there?
- 2:13:16SPEAKER_56: Paul, I have you on the show.
- 2:13:17SPEAKER_56: Can you hear me?
- 2:13:18SPEAKER_45: I can hear you, John.
- 2:13:19SPEAKER_45: Thank you.
- 2:13:20SPEAKER_56: Okay, thank you so much for coming on the uh on the show uh this morning.
- 2:13:24SPEAKER_56: First, I'll ask you, I know you had a fundraising event on uh on Friday.
- 2:13:28SPEAKER_56: I'm curious to get a bit of a bit of a recap on your on your fundraising event uh over near my neck of the woods.
- 2:13:33SPEAKER_56: I'm sorry I couldn't make it out to that.
- 2:13:35SPEAKER_45: Well, thank you for asking.
- 2:13:36SPEAKER_45: And first of all, John, it's great to be on your show.
- 2:13:38SPEAKER_45: Sorry about the technical issues here.
- 2:13:40SPEAKER_45: The uh the fundraising event went very well.
- 2:13:43SPEAKER_45: We uh held it out at the uh airport at uh at a friend's hangar, and it was really um it was really, I think, uh uh you know well done.
- 2:13:51SPEAKER_45: Good turnout, and I think we're building momentum in that category.
- 2:13:57SPEAKER_56: Let's talk a little bit about uh Betty McCollin uh in this congressional uh congressional race.
- 2:14:03SPEAKER_56: Of course, your opponent in this in this congressional race.
- 2:14:05SPEAKER_56: There was a couple of editorials that came out uh last week uh highlighting uh the Minnesota Star Tribune doing a decent job investigating.
- 2:14:13SPEAKER_56: A broken clock is right is uh right twice a day.
- 2:14:15SPEAKER_56: Um, how um she's become a pipeline to the Pentagon.
- 2:14:18SPEAKER_56: They're writing here, the defense industry took notice over uh Benny McCollum's connections to the Pentagon with help from a former staffer turned lobbyist, the powerful Democrat, and the occasional critic of the Pentagon spending is helping to fund Minnesota's defense industry.
- 2:14:32SPEAKER_56: Defense donors are opening their wallets in the wake of this.
- 2:14:35SPEAKER_56: Now, I know that peace groups have called attention to this, saying that this defense work is a betrayal, but you are also critical of this uh as well.
- 2:14:44SPEAKER_56: Uh give us some of the some of the details and uh why you're critical of uh U.S.
- 2:14:48SPEAKER_56: Representative Betty McCollum's connections to the Pentagon along with these other organizations, uh Paul Wickstrom.
- 2:14:53SPEAKER_45: Well, I think uh, you know, there's two that are in there that kind of stand out.
- 2:14:57SPEAKER_45: One is Biomade, uh contract that was uh the Pentagon request went in for 23 million and it was uh jacked up to 300 million.
- 2:15:06SPEAKER_45: And the second request, uh, you know, it appears there's a company locally called Northwinds that's really um you know, really making you know significant uh gains, I guess, in the defense spending area.
- 2:15:19SPEAKER_45: And basically uh there you know there seems to be a relationship there to Betty McCollum's office.
- 2:15:26SPEAKER_45: And I'm a strong supporter of defense spending.
- 2:15:29SPEAKER_45: I work for a defense company, and I really you know want to make sure that we've got the you know the that type of investment coming into the state of Minnesota.
- 2:15:38SPEAKER_45: However, you know, the way it looks like it's being done with Betty McCollum's office is it's really uh you know, there's a relationship there that I think needs to be looked into further between these two companies and what's happened with with the uh the the contracts and essentially in her campaigning account, she's got$220,000 that have come in from defense companies.
- 2:16:01SPEAKER_45: She gets 40% of her money from PACs, and so I think that that whole relationship really needs to be looked at.
- 2:16:08SPEAKER_45: Uh it's in the context of the overarching fraud situation that we're seeing in Minnesota.
- 2:16:14SPEAKER_45: And I think Betty McCollum really has to be held to account there with the fraud and uh you know what's happened in her watch.
- 2:16:22SPEAKER_45: She serves on two important committees in the in the House, one of which is the Defense Appropriations Committee.
- 2:16:28SPEAKER_45: And we that needs to really be looked at, especially when she's a real strong uh you know opponent of defense spending.
- 2:16:36SPEAKER_45: But I think as we step back from that defense spending topic, we should really look at the overarching fraud issue and what we're seeing statewide and nationally.
- 2:16:47SPEAKER_45: So I'd like to talk about that a little bit too, if we could, John.
- 2:16:51SPEAKER_56: Yeah, absolutely.
- 2:16:52SPEAKER_56: Talking with um again, a congressional district four uh candidate running against Betty McCollum, Paul Wickstrom, uh, joins us uh this morning.
- 2:17:00SPEAKER_56: Yeah, I got go right ahead.
- 2:17:02SPEAKER_56: Um I because I was gonna ask you sort of a little bit more background in this uh in this race, why you decided to get into this particular race.
- 2:17:09SPEAKER_56: But um, yeah, the floor is yours.
- 2:17:10SPEAKER_56: I'd love to hear your commentary.
- 2:17:12SPEAKER_45: Well, as you know, I've fought election fraud in Minnesota, and basically that's my you know that's my credential, if you will, to fight on this front.
- 2:17:24SPEAKER_45: Um because of that election fraud that we fought.
- 2:17:28SPEAKER_45: Curtis Johnson was disqualified in the state house in early 25.
- 2:17:32SPEAKER_45: We got a Republican speaker from that, from the temporary majority.
- 2:17:36SPEAKER_45: We got a fraud committee in the state house, and then uh you know, a rule in the conference committee that actually gave the Republicans some real power, and then that result was the DFL trifecta was stopped, and it saved billions of dollars of runaway spending.
- 2:17:50SPEAKER_45: And you know, that's the past, that's water under the bridge, but we got to really work to continue the improvements uh that have been made by Republicans, especially in the state house, uh, to uh you know stop the crazy spending at the state level.
- 2:18:05SPEAKER_45: But my path here is to go fight the fraud at a national level in Congress, and that's why I'm running for this office is to you know, you know, go after the fraud that we're seeing happening right now.
- 2:18:15SPEAKER_45: If you look at our national uh deficit, it's about$1.8 trillion a year.
- 2:18:21SPEAKER_45: A quarter of that is estimated to be fraud, fraudulent spending.
- 2:18:25SPEAKER_45: And I think it's really helpful for people to know what's the difference between debt, which is now$40 trillion nationally, and deficit, which is$1.8 trillion.
- 2:18:35SPEAKER_45: The deficit is how much more we're spending than we're taking in.
- 2:18:38SPEAKER_45: And I look at the debt and the deficit is water in a pool for the debt, and the water coming into the pool is the deficit, and we need to really make sure we're shutting that deficit spending off so that we're not increasing the amount of debt that we have nationally, which translates to about$360,000 of debt for every U.S.
- 2:18:59SPEAKER_45: taxpayer.
- 2:19:00SPEAKER_45: So our national spending, some of which is driven by fraud, really needs to be uh scrutinized, and we need to put things in place to tackle the fraud and and slow down and stop that deficit spending so that we can get our country back on track.
- 2:19:18SPEAKER_45: So, you know, the national fraud problem is overarching Minnesota's fraud problem.
- 2:19:23SPEAKER_45: And I think that's what people really need to understand is uh we really gotta we really gotta uh you know tackle the national debt and spending and the fraud within that spending to really get things back under control for our for our country.
- 2:19:39SPEAKER_56: Yeah, you know, uh Paul Wigstrom, you you really hit upon something that that I've been distressed by, and that is, you know, just to again sort of dovetail off of what you were mentioning, it is the fact that, you know, when we look at tackling the debt or we look at you know financing projects, uh infrastructure, the, you know, the expenditure of taxpayer dollars, it it's tough, if if not impossible, to get an incredibly clear picture over how dollars are being spent when you have to go and factor in something like the fraud taking place.
- 2:20:12SPEAKER_56: If you tackled the fraud, you know, how much would all of those other things that I just meant uh mentioned end up changing?
- 2:20:19SPEAKER_56: You know, would there still need to be the amount of money that we're giving to various uh to various programs?
- 2:20:25SPEAKER_56: And and like you said, again, just sort of dovetailing off of what Paul Wickstrom was was was talking about, um, until we tackle the fraud, we're not gonna be able to answer those to answer those questions because I don't think that that's anything that anybody can really go on and put a finger solidly on in terms of the numbers because we just don't know how big the fraud is.
- 2:20:43SPEAKER_56: We know there's a lot of it and we can speculate on it, but until we, you know, until we end up doing something about it, um how can we actually go and properly fund all of these other things that need to be funded, not just here in Minnesota, but um, but across the across the country.
- 2:20:57SPEAKER_56: So yeah, I'm I'm I'm with you 100% on that, Paul.
- 2:21:00SPEAKER_45: Well, as we look at the uh the fraud itself, within the deficit, it's estimated that upwards of 29% of that deficit, which is around$500 and some billion dollars, is associated with fraud.
- 2:21:14SPEAKER_45: And you know, think about that.
- 2:21:15SPEAKER_45: If we could you know just remove the fraud from the deficit spending of$1.8 trillion, we would bring that down significantly and then look for more efficiencies within that.
- 2:21:25SPEAKER_45: And we need to you know look at our our you know how how money is spent or uh the fraud you'll the fraud within Medicare and Medicaid and the misspendage, the misspending that's happening in both those programs.
- 2:21:37SPEAKER_45: Um, you know, so if we look at you know the the Medicare, Medicaid, and then go into the other uh programs like SNAP and others where we want to make sure that the dollars are properly being spent for the people that need it.
- 2:21:52SPEAKER_45: Uh that's the that's the that's the other side of the coin with fraud.
- 2:21:56SPEAKER_45: Uh on the one hand, it's it's taking our taxpayer dollars, our hard-earned taxpayer dollars, and on the other side of that coin, it's denying service to those who truly need it, or it's delaying service, much like you're seeing right now in the Medicaid issue in Minnesota, where the federal government has shut off the the funds until all the contracts and the and the and the payments can be uh reviewed.
- 2:22:19SPEAKER_45: I ran into a woman at the Washington County Fair about two weeks ago, and she's one of the contractors that's been hired by the state government to uh to review those claims to make sure that the they're verifiable and such.
- 2:22:31SPEAKER_45: And she was very much on the page of this has to stop.
- 2:22:35SPEAKER_45: You know, these these claims that are being made, fraudulent in some cases, and it's really affecting uh the the dispersal of services.
- 2:22:45SPEAKER_45: So the other side of the coin here is affected where people who really need the services are not getting those services or getting delayed because uh you know that there's increased scrutiny and oversight that has to be made.
- 2:22:59SPEAKER_56: Talking with congressional candidate uh Paul Wickstrom.
- 2:23:02SPEAKER_56: Uh Paul, where can people find out more uh regarding uh your campaign?
- 2:23:06SPEAKER_56: And are you gonna be, I assume you'll be out at the uh at the state fair um at some point of the next couple of weeks?
- 2:23:12SPEAKER_45: I will be at the state fair.
- 2:23:13SPEAKER_45: Great question.
- 2:23:14SPEAKER_45: WickstromforCongress.com, Wickstrom for Congress on social media.
- 2:23:18SPEAKER_45: And John, I I hope that I can do something to help boost your show.
- 2:23:22SPEAKER_45: What can listeners do to help your show?
- 2:23:24SPEAKER_45: You know, talk to other listeners, I assume.
- 2:23:27SPEAKER_56: Yeah, just let everybody know where I am that I've uh that that I that I haven't that that that that I haven't uh that I haven't gone away, Paul.
- 2:23:34SPEAKER_56: That's it.
- 2:23:35SPEAKER_56: That's what you can do.
- 2:23:36SPEAKER_45: We need you, John, and we need the Center for the American Experiment.
- 2:23:39SPEAKER_45: There's great content up on that website, and uh I often go to that content myself and I read the magazine Thinking Minnesota, and you know it's a great, great organization.
- 2:23:51SPEAKER_56: Well, uh Paul, thank you uh for your support.
- 2:23:53SPEAKER_56: Continued to good luck in the campaign.
- 2:23:55SPEAKER_56: Uh keep yourself uh safe and uh and away from the uh from the drag queen shows that'll be taking place over the next few weeks at the uh Minnesota State Fair.
- 2:24:04SPEAKER_56: And uh glad we can finally connect on the show this morning.
- 2:24:06SPEAKER_56: It's great to talk with you.
- 2:24:08SPEAKER_45: For sure.
- 2:24:08SPEAKER_45: Thanks for your patience, John.
- 2:24:09SPEAKER_45: You have a great day.
- 2:24:11SPEAKER_56: Absolutely.
- 2:24:12SPEAKER_56: Uh I want to get back into um some of uh some of your thoughts regarding the state fair, as we were talking about.
- 2:24:18SPEAKER_56: Minnesota and Ramsey County secured agreements to keep alleged Somali gang members away from the Minnesota State Fair.
- 2:24:24SPEAKER_56: The agreements were part of a lawsuit filed to prevent violence at the fair, citing past incidents involving the gangs.
- 2:24:31SPEAKER_56: Some praised the preventative action, others uh criticized it as political theater.
- 2:24:35SPEAKER_56: The most important part about this is making sure that the gangs aren't going to be involved there.
- 2:24:39SPEAKER_56: Uh yeah, it's unique and yeah, it's different.
- 2:24:42SPEAKER_56: And quite honestly, I'm not 100% sure.
- 2:24:44SPEAKER_56: Well, it would appear that there is some legitimacy, uh, legitimacy being given to these, to these gangs.
- 2:24:53SPEAKER_56: Um I I also don't know whether or not there was a better solution than what the Ramsey County and Minnesota ended up finding to make sure that there wasn't violence taking place at the fair.
- 2:25:05SPEAKER_56: But I want to turn it over to you and get your get your thoughts on that.
- 2:25:07SPEAKER_56: We've had a lot of comments that have rolled in to the blaster line at 612-584-4565.
- 2:25:13SPEAKER_56: And I welcome your emails, John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org.
- 2:25:17SPEAKER_56: Let's do one uh hear from Friend of the Show, Joe.
- 2:25:19SPEAKER_38: Good morning, John.
- 2:25:20SPEAKER_38: Joe from Victoria.
- 2:25:22SPEAKER_38: I think the essence of what we're trying to get at here is it feels bad because it's a gang who has advertised violence.
- 2:25:29SPEAKER_38: When it's said the solution is to prosecute them and put them in jail.
- 2:25:34SPEAKER_38: Conspiracy to commit whatever the hell they said they were going to do and advertise.
- 2:25:38SPEAKER_38: It's not a difficult concept.
- 2:25:41SPEAKER_56: Thank you for the comment.
- 2:25:42SPEAKER_56: Let's go in here from another friend of the show, uh, Victor on the blaster line here on the John Justice Show.
- 2:26:07SPEAKER_36: You don't want to work with it.
- 2:26:19SPEAKER_36: And then arrest them.
- 2:26:21SPEAKER_36: And leave them in jail for me.
- 2:26:23SPEAKER_56: Maybe that's what Yeah, see, that's the aspect of this that I have such a hard I have a hard time with.
- 2:26:29SPEAKER_56: And that's why I'm sort of appealing to to you.
- 2:26:32SPEAKER_56: And if you listen, if lawyer extraordinaire Jeff O'Brien is uh is listening, or uh a friend of the show, James uh Dickey, uh, also a lawyer, I'd be curious to get to get their to get their thoughts.
- 2:26:44SPEAKER_56: Because I think the the idea is to hold them accountable if they go and do something.
- 2:26:51SPEAKER_56: But the fact that they were broadcasting this, that they were promoting this, so they were essentially advertising these gangs, advertising what they were going to to do, clearly this put uh local authorities in a tough spot and a different spot than they typically would be in because they did have the knowledge going into it of what was being planned.
- 2:27:14SPEAKER_56: The question that I have is beyond this law beyond this um this lawsuit to keep them from there, uh from from the fair of whether or not they could have been held accountable for preemptively saying they wanted to go and spark a uh a riot.
- 2:27:28SPEAKER_56: That's another question that I have regarding this.
- 2:27:30SPEAKER_32: Hey, good morning, John.
- 2:27:31SPEAKER_32: I really get a kick out of the fact that uh the government seems to continually pretend that we don't have gangs.
- 2:27:38SPEAKER_32: They they act like gangs aren't the thing here.
- 2:27:40SPEAKER_32: We're bad people if we talk about the gang, but then they have lawsuits against the gang.
- 2:27:45SPEAKER_32: It kind of confuses me.
- 2:27:48SPEAKER_56: Yeah, and the media is really bad at that, right?
- 2:27:51SPEAKER_56: I don't even think the media uses the term.
- 2:27:53SPEAKER_56: It's groups of people.
- 2:27:55SPEAKER_56: That's the terminology that the media typically uses when we talk about gangs.
- 2:28:01SPEAKER_30: Um the way working civilization deals with community.
- 2:28:11SPEAKER_30: You have no things to worry about.
- 2:29:02SPEAKER_33: Of course they gotta be legit legitimized.
- 2:29:05SPEAKER_33: And then they're part of the auxiliary wing of the DFL.
- 2:29:11SPEAKER_33: And it's to get out the vote crowd for a cedar riverside.
- 2:29:15SPEAKER_33: So yeah, they gotta be legitimized, buddy.
- 2:29:18SPEAKER_56: Thank you, as always.
- 2:29:19SPEAKER_56: Uh good to hear from you, uh, Lou, on the blaster line this morning at 612-584-4565.
- 2:29:26SPEAKER_56: All right, let's turn our attention over to the other big news item.
- 2:29:30SPEAKER_56: And that would be Jake Lang and his hate rally.
- 2:29:33SPEAKER_56: I'm pretty sure that he dubbed it that in the Bring Me the News article.
- 2:29:36SPEAKER_56: They keep calling it a hate rally, but I think that was actually one of Jake Lang's uh terminology for this uh for this event.
- 2:29:42SPEAKER_56: It was met with counter-protesters, including a man dressed as Spider Man.
- 2:29:46SPEAKER_56: Lang and his group drove onto the sidewalk, causing chaos and prompting police intervention.
- 2:29:51SPEAKER_56: Lang was arrested along with four others and is now being held without uh bail.
- 2:29:56SPEAKER_56: But we now know that there was a total of 11 arrests that were made following the clashes at uh the far right rally led by Jake Lang.
- 2:30:05SPEAKER_56: I'm now working off of an article here from uh Care 11, I believe.
- 2:30:10SPEAKER_56: Um Lang and his associates, including Jaden Scott, were arrested on probable cause for riot after driving onto the sidewalk, and then they deployed pepper spray towards the counter-protesters.
- 2:30:20SPEAKER_56: The Minneapolis police department prioritized separating the demonstrators and vehicle traffic, but officers were injured by uh thrown objects during the confrontation.
- 2:30:29SPEAKER_56: Listen, this was an absolute catastrophe of attention seekers that was completely unnecessary.
- 2:30:35SPEAKER_56: And you can say that Jake Lang has his free speech, but also not agree with his tactics or commentary.
- 2:30:41SPEAKER_56: I'll get into more of this coming up in just a moment on the show.
- 2:30:45SPEAKER_56: We'll also further details on that vandalism that took place uh over the weekend.
- 2:30:49SPEAKER_56: Some Minneapolis business owners are getting uh fed up.
- 2:30:54SPEAKER_56: And I want to play for you some audio from Liz Collin and to Tal.
- 2:30:59SPEAKER_56: They were on Newsmax last week in the wake of the Derek Chauvin attorney moving forward with his um bombshell uh court moves to get the charges dismissed for Derek Chauvin, considering the fact that apparently, according to Chauvin's attorney, uh grand jury had not been convened.
- 2:31:19SPEAKER_56: So we'll share that with you before we wrap up the uh show today.
- 2:31:22SPEAKER_56: And we'll get back to more of your thoughts.
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- 2:33:25SPEAKER_18: And now here's commentary on the latest issues facing Minnesotans.
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- 2:33:43SPEAKER_14: And I think that's kind of the theme of today's episode is you're going to hear v politicians very soon tell you that there's nothing from this budget that they can cut because it is all essential.
- 2:33:52SPEAKER_14: It is all needed.
- 2:33:53SPEAKER_14: Well, just keep these in mind as an example as examples.
- 2:33:56SPEAKER_14: The sex chain surgery on the taxpayer dollars, the Over, you know, beyond uh welfare spending, the third, the third most of any state in the country, you know, keep those in mind when a politician looks you in the eye and says that, no, actually, we need your tax dollars because all these things are super important.
- 2:34:14SPEAKER_14: When instead they could be looking at this budget and saying, Yeah, actually, we're gonna cut those uh sex chain surgeries, we're gonna cut some welfare spending for the people that don't actually need it, and keep it only for the people that do need it.
- 2:34:26SPEAKER_14: Because there is a sp there is a place for it.
- 2:34:28SPEAKER_14: You know, it's great.
- 2:34:29SPEAKER_14: We can help out some people that absolutely need it until they get back on their feet.
- 2:34:32SPEAKER_14: That's not what our system is at right now.
- 2:34:35SPEAKER_14: That's absolutely not where our system is, and that is where it should be.
- 2:34:38SPEAKER_07: Think about it.
- 2:34:39SPEAKER_07: Now that school's back in session, how are Minnesota students doing?
- 2:34:42SPEAKER_07: Not very well.
- 2:34:44SPEAKER_07: Minnesota ACT scores fell again last year and are the lowest they've been in ten years.
- 2:34:49SPEAKER_07: In fact, fewer than half of Minnesota students can either read or do math at grade level.
- 2:34:55SPEAKER_07: Think about it.
- 2:34:56SPEAKER_07: We used to brag about our schools.
- 2:34:57SPEAKER_07: Now we're losing to states like Mississippi.
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- 2:35:08SPEAKER_02: The Republican Party had really kind of pushed away, uh repelled uh a lot of the the working class.
- 2:35:16SPEAKER_02: And Trump's great insight was that the Democratic Party had pushed those people away too.
- 2:35:23SPEAKER_02: Uh they they were you know heavy in the the sort of graduate school world.
- 2:35:28SPEAKER_02: And he realized these there are billions of these voters across Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin.
- 2:35:36SPEAKER_02: There's millions of them who were just waiting to vote for me, Donald J.
- 2:35:40SPEAKER_02: Trump.
- 2:35:41SPEAKER_02: Uh, and it worked.
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- 2:35:59SPEAKER_34: Let me back up.
- 2:36:00SPEAKER_34: What they found is that there is a man, his name is Seiko Dukeley, who has been the owner of at least two dozen group homes, mostly in the northwestern Twin Cities, and has collected at least$36 million in taxpayer funds over the past 10 years.
- 2:36:17SPEAKER_34: They seem to mostly be in the like Brooklyn Park, Brooklyn Center area, which is where there's a ton of group homes for whatever reason.
- 2:36:25SPEAKER_34: But what's insane about this is Dukeley is a government official in Liberia and doesn't even live in Minnesota.
- 2:36:32SPEAKER_07: So he's claiming to run these group homes that he's not even in the same country as.com to learn more.
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- 2:37:12SPEAKER_56: We'll turn our attention over to the riot that broke out on the streets of Minneapolis in the wake of Jake Lang and his uh rally on free speech orb something.
- 2:37:22SPEAKER_56: We'll get to some of your thoughts as well.
- 2:37:24SPEAKER_56: I do want to go back to the blaster line, comments coming in regarding the Minnesota State Fair starting this week.
- 2:37:29SPEAKER_31: Hi, John.
- 2:37:30SPEAKER_31: This is Jim from Wisconsin.
- 2:37:32SPEAKER_31: I can speak for myself and my wife, and a few other friends of mine over in western Wisconsin who used to love to go to the Minnesota State Fair.
- 2:37:41SPEAKER_31: Last time my wife was over there was 2023, and we left about 6:30 in the evening because a lot of the ripraft was coming in, and here's how far the first as we were walking back to the bus to go to our car, it was gone to my wife said I don't want to ever come back here again.
- 2:38:09SPEAKER_31: I don't want I don't carry to use it.
- 2:38:11SPEAKER_31: Um so it's just sad that the the Minnesota Minneapolis has gone the way of uh well of the games and and stuff.
- 2:38:20SPEAKER_31: It's just that anyway, we used to love the fair.
- 2:38:24SPEAKER_56: Well, and my you know, my uh an added element to this that uh is uh is concerning to me is there's been so much attention regarding the lawsuit, keeping the gangs out of the fair.
- 2:38:36SPEAKER_56: Just the amount of attention surrounding this, you know, it makes me wonder whether or not other individuals not a part, because there's a lot of different gangs.
- 2:38:45SPEAKER_56: This is one thing I've learned a lot about gangs in the course of the past week.
- 2:38:48SPEAKER_56: I just want to let you know about that.
- 2:38:50SPEAKER_56: In the Flyers leading up to this, they had all kinds of different gang names.
- 2:38:54SPEAKER_56: I never heard of the Muddy or the Ville or Villay or whatever they are until we started talking about this issue last week.
- 2:39:01SPEAKER_56: But how many other gangs are going to want to go and make a name for themselves for going into the fair now in the midst of all of this focus on these two gangs?
- 2:39:12SPEAKER_56: I mean, I think that's something of concern as well.
- 2:39:15SPEAKER_56: That leads into the sort of legitimizing in meeting with these groups of individuals and getting them to agree to not be there.
- 2:39:23SPEAKER_56: It all just seems so ridiculous.
- 2:39:25SPEAKER_56: What also was ridiculous was this event that took place in Minneapolis over the weekend.
- 2:39:31SPEAKER_56: Bring me the news, had a reporter on the ground to witness everything that happened as conservative doing that thing with my fingers.
- 2:39:37SPEAKER_56: Provocateur Jake Lang held his rally, ended up turning chaotic outside the Minneapolis City Hall.
- 2:39:43SPEAKER_56: You had Minneapolis man, baby, mayor, mom jeans, Jacob Fry, stupidly or intentionally telling people to stay away from this event.
- 2:39:52SPEAKER_56: And all that it did was advertise that this event was going to take place.
- 2:39:57SPEAKER_56: As I mentioned before, I had completely forgotten about this event.
- 2:40:02SPEAKER_56: AK Kamara had shared with us a flyer from Jake Lang's camp that he had been sharing on social media that had incredibly offensive language on it, promoting this free speech free speech event to take place over the weekend.
- 2:40:16SPEAKER_56: And since that happened, even when it was being talked about this week, I didn't even put two and two together until AK went and brought it to our attention on Friday regarding that.
- 2:40:26SPEAKER_56: This was the event that he was telling us about a few weeks ago.
- 2:40:30SPEAKER_56: In total, fewer than a dozen individuals showed up for Lang's scheduled rally.
- 2:40:38SPEAKER_56: Fewer than a dozen people.
- 2:40:40SPEAKER_56: And yet now this has made national news.
- 2:40:42SPEAKER_56: All because you have a group of attention seekers on all sides that took advantage of this completely unnecessary, unproductive event, and certainly unproductive when it comes to promoting any sort of values regarding conservatism.
- 2:40:59SPEAKER_56: I mean, Jake Lang, you know, builds himself as being right wing and wanting to help conservative causes.
- 2:41:05SPEAKER_56: This doesn't do that.
- 2:41:07SPEAKER_56: In my opinion, this actually bolsters the ranks of the individuals who are the real fascists.
- 2:41:13SPEAKER_56: And those are the people out there protesting his rally, of which, if he hadn't gone down there with his offensive language, he has his right to free speech.
- 2:41:23SPEAKER_56: Again, two things, multiple things can be true at once.
- 2:41:26SPEAKER_56: You can support his right to free speech, but you do not have to agree with his tactics or commentary.
- 2:41:30SPEAKER_56: Same thing rings true when it comes to the controversy surrounding Shiloh Hendricks, that altercation with individuals and a child in a park down in Rochester.
- 2:41:39SPEAKER_56: You can support her free speech.
- 2:41:43SPEAKER_56: But also completely disagree with the language that she uses and her commentary.
- 2:41:50SPEAKER_56: This was a wholly unproductive and, you know, albeit potentially damaging event that Jake Lange, for his own attention-seeking engagement farming efforts, put on.
- 2:42:03SPEAKER_56: It feeds into the left-wing mob and perhaps legitimizes the leftists when the event is viewed through the eyes of moderates.
- 2:42:12SPEAKER_56: And it was stunning to see.
- 2:42:13SPEAKER_56: Like the only thing positive that came out of this, it's not even a positive thing, just an observation.
- 2:42:18SPEAKER_56: But the only thing positive that ended up coming out of this whole thing was that we did see further examples of the fascist tactics of Antifa as they gaslight when they chant and yell, fascists go away.
- 2:42:31SPEAKER_56: But we had already seen all of that.
- 2:42:33SPEAKER_56: We saw all of that during Operation Metro Surge.
- 2:42:36SPEAKER_56: We saw that with the dildo brigade that is out at the Whipple Center.
- 2:42:40SPEAKER_56: We didn't need Jake Lang to come in here and give us another example of what we were already aware of.
- 2:42:46SPEAKER_56: But there was some stunning audio, uh, I mean, video that was available for this event.
- 2:42:50SPEAKER_56: There was one moment when a guy was just riding his bike through the crowd.
- 2:42:54SPEAKER_56: He had a really nice road bike.
- 2:42:58SPEAKER_56: And I don't know whether or not he was there to see what was going on.
- 2:43:01SPEAKER_56: I don't know whether or not he was just coming home, but he had an American flag-like bandana that was hanging out of his backpack.
- 2:43:07SPEAKER_56: It wasn't displayed prominently.
- 2:43:08SPEAKER_56: He wasn't wearing it on his head.
- 2:43:10SPEAKER_56: He wasn't out there waving it.
- 2:43:11SPEAKER_56: Nothing that matters.
- 2:43:12SPEAKER_56: But he got attacked by the mob there simply because they saw the American flag.
- 2:43:17SPEAKER_56: Almost got beat up.
- 2:43:19SPEAKER_56: The arrogance of the fascists pushing back on Jake Lang was on full display.
- 2:43:24SPEAKER_56: But again, we've seen this before.
- 2:43:26SPEAKER_56: It wasn't just that individual.
- 2:43:28SPEAKER_56: You had other masked cowards protesting against Jake Lang who were just stopping random individuals and basically checking on them to make sure that they were on the right side of the issue.
- 2:43:40SPEAKER_56: You tell me, is that not fascism?
- 2:43:43SPEAKER_56: Of course it is, as they chant fascists go home.
- 2:43:47SPEAKER_56: In total, you had some, again, 11 and excuse me, fewer than a dozen people showed up.
- 2:43:54SPEAKER_56: Lang and six others, including far-right activist Jaden Scott, showed their faces briefly when they decided to drive along the sidewalk that was initially barricaded.
- 2:44:03SPEAKER_56: And I think this is what brought about the charges.
- 2:44:05SPEAKER_56: And who knows at this point in time whether or not Jake Lang didn't do that intentionally, hoping to get arrested because there were so few people that showed up to his event.
- 2:44:15SPEAKER_56: The decision caused chaos, according to the Bring Me the News article, as crowds of protesters gathered around the cars to attack Lang before Pepper Spray was deployed by a man dressed as a local law enforcement officer who appeared to be working for Lang.
- 2:44:29SPEAKER_56: Protesters threw water balloons, bottles, glitter, and more at the group as they tried to pull the offensive signs away from the instigators.
- 2:44:37SPEAKER_56: At one point, as if it wasn't chaotic and ridiculous already, a man dressed as Spider-Man jumped on the back of Lang's truck and began attacking Lang before the superhero impersonator was pulled away.
- 2:44:54SPEAKER_56: Zero days since the city of Minneapolis has been uh an uh embarrassment nationwide.
- 2:45:01SPEAKER_56: Lang was later photographed being arrested by the Minneapolis police.
- 2:45:04SPEAKER_56: Both vehicles unexpectedly and abruptly drove onto the sidewalk adjacent to City Hall, traveling eastbound at a very slow speed into the crowd.
- 2:45:11SPEAKER_56: This was according to interim police chief uh Bill Peterson during a press conference afterwards.
- 2:45:16SPEAKER_56: Almost immediately a confrontation developed between the members of the crowd and the individuals associated with both vehicles.
- 2:45:23SPEAKER_56: A chemical irritant believed to be mace was deployed by the individuals on both sides.
- 2:45:29SPEAKER_56: During the press conference, Minneapolis man, baby mayor, mom jeans, Jacob Fry, and MPD announced the arrest of Lang and his co-conspirators.
- 2:45:35SPEAKER_56: Oh, I'm sure they were so happy about that.
- 2:45:39SPEAKER_56: I'm sure Jacob Fry was giddy.
- 2:45:42SPEAKER_56: There were 11 people total, so it wasn't just individuals on the right that were arrested in the wake of all this.
- 2:45:49SPEAKER_56: There were people on the left as well.
- 2:45:50SPEAKER_56: And I just wanted to clarify that because I think there was a lot of people online that were saying that nobody else was arrested.
- 2:45:55SPEAKER_56: On the left, it was only Lang, and that wasn't the case.
- 2:45:58SPEAKER_56: Outside of Lang's group, four other individuals were arrested.
- 2:46:01SPEAKER_56: Their identities have not been shared, of course.
- 2:46:03SPEAKER_56: MPD confirmed the aforementioned individual dressed as a law enforcement officer had no affiliation with police.
- 2:46:10SPEAKER_56: Lang was effectively run out of the city hall area within 10 minutes.
- 2:46:13SPEAKER_56: However, counter protesters became outraged at the way that Minneapolis police seemed to escort Lang's caravan out of the area.
- 2:46:21SPEAKER_56: Listen, just be happy that Minneapolis Man Baby Mayor Mom Jeans Jacob Fry kept police there.
- 2:46:29SPEAKER_56: That's not really been his MO as of late.
- 2:46:31SPEAKER_56: As a matter of fact, let me share this clip with you.
- 2:46:33SPEAKER_56: Former now disgraced Minneapolis police chief Brian O'Hara was talking with the local Fox affiliate recently, Fox Nine, and had this to say, going back to Operation Metro Surge, and it's information that we already knew, but this is just police chief Brian O'Hara telling everybody straight out that in the moment regarding, I believe it was Renee Good, that the mayor had pulled law enforcement away and left ice on their own against those individuals, including Renee Good, when she ended up being shot and killed by ICE agents after attempting to run over that ICE, uh run over that ICE agent.
- 2:47:17SPEAKER_53: Well, uh, you know, as I mentioned, it was continuously getting more difficult.
- 2:47:23SPEAKER_53: It was getting more challenging, and it was certainly less and less communication as time went on.
- 2:47:29SPEAKER_53: Um I think even on that scene that morning, uh there were there were agents telling uh our officers to leave.
- 2:47:37SPEAKER_53: Um yeah.
- 2:47:42SPEAKER_56: Officers were told to leave.
- 2:47:46SPEAKER_56: I said all along during Operation MetroSearch that if you had law enforcement, Minneapolis law enforcement setting up a perimeter and actually keeping the on-the-street instigators from being able to physically confront ICE, then lives probably would have been saved.
- 2:48:02SPEAKER_56: But they wanted the chaos.
- 2:48:06SPEAKER_56: Minneapolis Man, Baby, Mary, Mom, Jeans, Jacob Fry wanted the chaos on the streets of Minneapolis.
- 2:48:12SPEAKER_56: If he legitimately didn't want people to show up at this event, he would have completely ignored this event.
- 2:48:18SPEAKER_56: Now that's not to say that the antifa fascists wouldn't have shown up, anyways, to go and protest Lang's appearance.
- 2:48:25SPEAKER_56: But we'll never know now, will we?
- 2:48:29SPEAKER_56: Because as Bring Me the News reported, there was only like uh less than a dozen people that showed up to support Lange and his ridiculous free speech rally.
- 2:48:40SPEAKER_56: I'm sure he'll make a lot of money off this event after now being um uh arrested.
- 2:48:45SPEAKER_56: Because it certainly did nothing to advance anything that this individual says that he's trying to advance in terms of the conservative movement.
- 2:48:52SPEAKER_56: Let's go back to get some of your thoughts from the blaster line this morning here on the John Justice show, presented by American Experiment.
- 2:48:58SPEAKER_43: Hey, good morning, John.
- 2:48:59SPEAKER_43: Kay Clang is an absolute idiot.
- 2:49:01SPEAKER_43: I'm just all I need to say about that one.
- 2:49:04SPEAKER_43: But back to the whole games with the terror stuff.
- 2:49:08SPEAKER_43: It's not beyond the realm of possibility, that's a whole communication, the whole game battle orchestrated by all of them.
- 2:49:17SPEAKER_43: We can't tell for this group.
- 2:49:18SPEAKER_43: It's like take the problem and then show the other solution, which is a terrible solution to my negotiating with so broken.
- 2:49:34SPEAKER_56: Yep.
- 2:49:36SPEAKER_56: Totally agree.
- 2:49:38SPEAKER_56: And so why is this?
- 2:49:40SPEAKER_56: It's because even the gang members carry political capital with the Democrats.
- 2:49:48SPEAKER_56: There are ties that go beyond those gang members into other organizations that are involved at the ground level within supporting the DFL.
- 2:49:58SPEAKER_56: So by extension, yeah, the gang members are going to have a bit of support and legitimizing from the DFL because this is how they continue to go and win elections.
- 2:50:14SPEAKER_56: If it's politically expedient uh for them, they're going to go and support them.
- 2:50:20SPEAKER_56: It's it's that simple.
- 2:50:21SPEAKER_25: Good morning, John.
- 2:50:23SPEAKER_25: Well, now for in Minneapolis, we have Jake Wang versus Antifa, the fascist versus the fascist.
- 2:50:29SPEAKER_25: Crazy.
- 2:50:31SPEAKER_56: I uh put out the call uh for uh the lawyer friends of the show to uh respond.
- 2:50:37SPEAKER_56: And James Dickey has uh answered the call regarding the lawsuit uh against the gang members and keeping them from the Minnesota State Fair starting uh this week.
- 2:50:46SPEAKER_56: It actually was gonna be on Saturday.
- 2:50:48SPEAKER_26: Hey John, it's James Dickey.
- 2:50:49SPEAKER_26: On the civil gang injunctions issue, like the one against somebody in the bill, do you attach court orders to gang members from meeting together at a fan location?
- 2:50:58SPEAKER_26: I mean violations of the order become a basis for contempt.
- 2:51:02SPEAKER_26: You have criminal contempt attached if they show up.
- 2:51:04SPEAKER_26: And that's probably okay under the First Amendment if you have solid evidence that they intend to be there, and they have a history of criminal activity related to the gang.
- 2:51:13SPEAKER_26: But the real solution is strong law enforcement action with judges who will actually punish gang gangers who commit crimes.
- 2:51:19SPEAKER_26: Gangs are emboldened by copying of the county attorneys, judges with a social justice act program, and local government officials who fail the staff and support the police.
- 2:51:28SPEAKER_26: Sounds an order.
- 2:51:30SPEAKER_56: Thank you very much for that, uh, James Dickey.
- 2:51:33SPEAKER_56: That's exactly what I was uh looking for.
- 2:51:35SPEAKER_56: By the way, I won't mention uh the company of which the program that we are using for the uh for the blaster line, uh, who they are.
- 2:51:45SPEAKER_56: However, I do want to note, I'm assuming the uh the transcriptions that I get on the blasts, uh, and we are looking to improve the audio quality of that, just so you guys are are aware.
- 2:51:56SPEAKER_56: Uh we are looking, we are looking to make it so that the the quality of when you leave a comment is better than what you currently hear.
- 2:52:02SPEAKER_56: So uh so we're we're getting to that.
- 2:52:04SPEAKER_56: That being said, um they ended up bleeping out gangbangers in the transcript.
- 2:52:10SPEAKER_56: So I'm reading over James Dickey's comments here prior to playing them, and I'm like, why did James Dickey get get censored in the in the commentary on that?
- 2:52:22SPEAKER_56: Because he said gangbangers.
- 2:52:23SPEAKER_56: Apparently the AI overlords didn't uh didn't appreciate that.
- 2:52:27SPEAKER_56: Uh let's get back to some of your thoughts from the blaster line this year.
- 2:52:29SPEAKER_41: John, great show.
- 2:52:30SPEAKER_41: On to Jake Lang.
- 2:52:31SPEAKER_41: He arrested them and his people for riot, 60971.
- 2:52:36SPEAKER_41: Um, I don't think that this arrest was gonna meet the elements of that, which is a threat of violence and things like that.
- 2:52:42SPEAKER_41: But how could Jake Lane be arrested for riot when, to my understanding, he never even got out of the car, and I'm sure he wasn't one of the people driving.
- 2:52:51SPEAKER_41: I think what's gonna happen in the long run is if he's gonna end up costing the city of Minneapolis a lot of money.
- 2:52:57SPEAKER_41: So that's that's just my take on this whole thing.
- 2:53:00SPEAKER_41: Thank you.
- 2:53:01SPEAKER_56: And on top of that, as I mentioned before, um, this story is getting buried in the in the wake of this completely avoidable event that took place over the weekend.
- 2:53:10SPEAKER_56: You had um you had some 87 vehicles that had their window smash.
- 2:53:16SPEAKER_56: It's ridiculous.
- 2:53:18SPEAKER_56: And people weren't even stealing anything.
- 2:53:20SPEAKER_56: They did not take anything.
- 2:53:21SPEAKER_56: One of my neighbors had Milwaukee power tools, thousands of dollars worth of Milwaukee power tools, and none of that was taken someone resident who had her car vandalized.
- 2:53:32SPEAKER_56: Minneapolis police declined an interview request, but told Five Eyewitness News that items have been stolen in some cases.
- 2:53:39SPEAKER_56: Police also said some descriptions described the group of juveniles.
- 2:53:42SPEAKER_56: Others described it as a single masked individual.
- 2:53:45SPEAKER_56: Police have increased their presence and issued a crime spree response to protocol in recent days.
- 2:53:51SPEAKER_56: Um, repair costs will likely have to come out of the pocket of the individuals who own the cars, especially because the damage isn't meeting the deductible, according to one resident.
- 2:54:00SPEAKER_56: Minneapolis uh police said they'll provide an update to today on how many cars were actually uh gone and vandalized over the weekend.
- 2:54:07SPEAKER_56: We'll have an update on uh on tomorrow's show.
- 2:54:09SPEAKER_56: But this is, like I said before, just to kind of put the two stories together.
- 2:54:12SPEAKER_56: This is the unfortunate aspect of having an event that transpired between Jake Lang and these Antifa uh fascists, is that it takes away from the real issues that the people of Minneapolis are facing that are indirect, you know, are directly tied to the failed leadership of Minneapolis Man Baby Mayor Mom Jeans Jacob Fry and the Minneapolis City Council.
- 2:54:31SPEAKER_56: At Alpha News, Dr.
- 2:54:33SPEAKER_56: Mo Smith, a Minneapolis business owner, has reported a 75% decline in her business since the 2020 George Floyd riots.
- 2:54:43SPEAKER_56: She attributes this to soft safety concerns, citing numerous incidents of crime and disorder at her business, criticizing local politicians for prioritizing ideological agendas over addressing the immediate safety issues, and urges them to focus on practical solutions.
- 2:55:00SPEAKER_56: This is an interview done over at Alpha News with Liz Collin.
- 2:55:03SPEAKER_56: I encourage you to head on over to Alpha News and uh check out the uh the entirety of the interview.
- 2:55:08SPEAKER_56: At the end, the owner said it gets harder every day.
- 2:55:12SPEAKER_56: But I'm pretty stubborn and I don't want my city to fall.
- 2:55:16SPEAKER_56: Like I have a very strong responsibility to my patients.
- 2:55:19SPEAKER_56: I feel the strong responsibility to this city.
- 2:55:24SPEAKER_56: I feel a strong responsibility to this state.
- 2:55:26SPEAKER_56: There are a lot of people like us, but you can only keep so much on us before we collapse.
- 2:55:30SPEAKER_56: And the real tragedy here is the bias.
- 2:55:34SPEAKER_56: If this were happening under any leadership that felt that it would hurt the Democrats' electoral chances, this would be addressed further.
- 2:55:43SPEAKER_56: But unfortunately, these business leaders, they just simply get ignored.
- 2:55:48SPEAKER_56: And they're allowed to be ignored.
- 2:55:50SPEAKER_56: Well, I shouldn't say they're allowed to be ignored, but they are.
- 2:55:53SPEAKER_56: They're completely ignored because to go and focus on it when it comes to the leadership in Minneapolis would almost be an admission that they're the ones that are responsible.
- 2:56:00SPEAKER_56: For it, because they are the ones that are responsible for it.
- 2:56:02SPEAKER_56: And you're never going to go and see them take responsibility for what's been happening to the uh to the businesses.
- 2:56:08SPEAKER_56: So I pray for this business owner and any other business owner who's committed to Minneapolis in order to try to make a living and be uh be successful in their business ventures.
- 2:56:18SPEAKER_56: Let's go back to the uh blaster line.
- 2:56:24SPEAKER_20: I'm guessing the AG will go after the car company for making the glass and the car people smash.
- 2:56:30SPEAKER_56: Yeah, it's just a matter of time before uh Keith Ellison starts uh blaming the uh the glass manufacturers for making glass that is so easily um uh broken.
- 2:56:41SPEAKER_56: All right, before we close the uh the show out, I want to bring you one more one more item.
- 2:56:45SPEAKER_56: I wanted to share this with you.
- 2:56:46SPEAKER_56: Uh Derek Chauvin, as we've been talking about since uh since last week, uh his attorney has uh moved, right, requesting the dismissal of the murder charges for a third time, this time.
- 2:57:01SPEAKER_56: Okay, this time, alleging due process violations.
- 2:57:04SPEAKER_56: His attorneys argue the case assignment to the Minnesota Attorney General, Thief Ellison, and the lack of a grand jury indictment invalidate uh the charges.
- 2:57:13SPEAKER_56: We talked with Liz Collin about this uh last week.
- 2:57:15SPEAKER_56: I wanted to share with you a chunk of the interview that was done on a Newsmax, Liz Collin and police officer, obviously, who was swept up in all of this during the death of George Floyd, uh, to Tao talked with Newsmax, especially in the wake of, and specifically in the wake of Derek Chauvin's attorney and his move to dismiss the charges.
- 2:57:36SPEAKER_56: The interview starts um with the uh host on Newsmax uh asking uh to Tao uh basically how he's how he's been doing since being released from from jail.
- 2:57:47SPEAKER_15: Um I'm doing okay.
- 2:57:48SPEAKER_15: It's been uh a long process of having I've been back about uh eight months now, so it's just kind of getting reacclimated with my wife and kids.
- 2:57:58SPEAKER_15: So I uh I'm doing well.
- 2:58:00SPEAKER_15: Thank you for asking.
- 2:58:03SPEAKER_15: Thank you, sir.
- 2:58:04SPEAKER_15: Are you working?
- 2:58:06SPEAKER_15: I am not working, I'm uh just a stay-at-home dad right now, just trying to uh uh uh teach my kids and uh just love on them.
- 2:58:15SPEAKER_15: The last three years has uh uh have uh been difficult, but uh you know that's just my job right now.
- 2:58:25SPEAKER_10: Well you are still standing and it's remarkable.
- 2:58:28SPEAKER_10: And uh everybody in the country was lying about you guys, and I'm so sorry for that.
- 2:58:32SPEAKER_10: Um how long were you in jail and what did they ultimately convict you of, or what was what was the uh what was uh the crime technically?
- 2:58:43SPEAKER_15: Well, I was uh uh convicted in state court, aiding abetting uh manslaughter, and then uh there was also federal court uh uh three counts of uh uh violating the civil rights.
- 2:58:58SPEAKER_10: So Liz Conland, you have Liz Conland, you have found out some amazing information every step of the way.
- 2:59:03SPEAKER_10: And of course, we all know that Derek Chauvin has filed a petition to vacate this murder conviction.
- 2:59:08SPEAKER_10: You have talked to the lawyer, the lawyer has been this case is flawed from the very, very beginning.
- 2:59:14SPEAKER_10: Could you tell us where things are right now?
- 2:59:17SPEAKER_23: Yeah, I will say it's good to see uh two.
- 2:59:19SPEAKER_23: I know he's kind of a humble warrior, um, and we've been telling his story uh over at Alpha News as well, but he has a lot of support in in Minnesota, and it's clear the these guys uh were railroaded.
- 2:59:29SPEAKER_23: But this is a very uh revealing petition, Greg, filed just Tuesday in Hennepin County Court.
- 2:59:34SPEAKER_23: Greg Joseph is the name of the attorney now representing Derek Chauvin.
- 2:59:37SPEAKER_23: But he's calling that the charges against Chauvin illegal, the trial of fraud, and he is now asking that the charges be dismissed.
- 2:59:45SPEAKER_23: Now, uh those allegations of fraud, I know you're gonna be shocked here, Greg, they are appointed uh squarely at Governor Tim Walls and Attorney General Keith Ellison.
- 2:59:54SPEAKER_23: Perhaps sounds familiar, but this is uh just days after May 25th, 2020.
- 2:59:59SPEAKER_23: You have a veteran Hennefin County prosecutor.
- 3:00:02SPEAKER_23: She did not want to charge the other officers at all, the three other officers, and she thought actually additional charges against Chauvin went too far.
- 3:00:09SPEAKER_23: Uh several Henneffe County prosecutors, they were not comfortable with the charges.
- 3:00:13SPEAKER_23: The Hennepin County attorney at the time, his name is Mike Freeman, he's not happy about that.
- 3:00:18SPEAKER_23: And that is when you see uh this maneuver happen that uh Mike Freeman is in talks with Governor Tim Walls.
- 3:00:25SPEAKER_23: Governor Tim Walls takes the case from Hennepin County, gives it then to Attorney General Keith Ellison.
- 3:00:31SPEAKER_23: Guess what happens?
- 3:00:32SPEAKER_23: That's when Derek Chauvin is charged with second-degree murder, the most serious charge.
- 3:00:36SPEAKER_23: According to the law, that can't happen.
- 3:00:38SPEAKER_23: The Hennepin County attorney is supposed to ask in writing to transfer a case to the attorney general.
- 3:00:44SPEAKER_23: That didn't happen.
- 3:00:45SPEAKER_23: And again, the law states the transfer can only happen if a grand jury looks into any misconduct by a public officer in the county.
- 3:00:53SPEAKER_23: Those are the exact words from the law.
- 3:00:55SPEAKER_23: Guess what?
- 3:00:55SPEAKER_23: A police officer is a public officer.
- 3:00:58SPEAKER_23: So this is a 31-page petition, really a bombshell, I would say, petition in this case uh filed this week in Hennepin County Court, saying this entire case was unlawful from the start.
- 3:01:09SPEAKER_56: You can see more of this uh interview, and I would encourage you to do so, especially uh the portion talking with uh two tau and his uh experience being swept up in all of this at uh American Experiment on their uh X feed, and I believe it's up at AmericanExperiment.org as well.
- 3:01:26SPEAKER_56: One more um item that I want to share with you before we wrap up uh the show today, and I meant to play this in the middle of when we were talking about the the Jake Lang uh protest and riot that broke out over the weekend.
- 3:01:39SPEAKER_56: But um, this is uh audio of a group of self-proclaimed Democrat socialists of uh America.
- 3:01:46SPEAKER_56: I believe they were all talking on a Zoom, a Zoom meeting.
- 3:01:49SPEAKER_56: This was making the rounds on X over the weekend.
- 3:01:52SPEAKER_56: I wanted to share it with you.
- 3:01:56SPEAKER_16: We can actually start to grab hold of the ship of state and and steer it in our direction, but it's going to be a you know violent process.
- 3:02:05SPEAKER_17: Our country needs to change, and this Democratic Party needs to change.
- 3:02:10SPEAKER_17: I was more than glad to go on Hassan's stream.
- 3:02:13SPEAKER_17: This is we we need uh as as Democrats, we need to go into these spaces.
- 3:02:18SPEAKER_04: Israel has a plan of creating a greater Israel in the Middle East, and Eretz Israel would require Israel to expand, quadtuple its size by eating up half of Lebanon, parts of Iraq, parts of Egypt, most of Jordan, parts of Iran.
- 3:02:35SPEAKER_05: It's not an accident that the same that will take the APAC money, take all the other money too.
- 3:02:40SPEAKER_05: You know, where they're messaging each other like, oh, there's a war over here.
- 3:02:43SPEAKER_05: Won't that be profitable for us?
- 3:02:45SPEAKER_05: What if we started some instability over there?
- 3:02:47SPEAKER_17: APAC doesn't care about democracy.
- 3:02:49SPEAKER_17: APAC cares about what APAC cares about, which is the corporate interests, the billionaire class, and perpetuating this U.S.
- 3:02:55SPEAKER_17: colony in the Middle East that is only able to exist with our taxpayer support.
- 3:03:01SPEAKER_56: Yeah, what you heard there was a smattering of commentary coming from Democrat socialists, communists.
- 3:03:08SPEAKER_56: And it was the very beginning of that that I wanted to focus on about how this is a violent organization and group.
- 3:03:14SPEAKER_56: And this is why stunts like Jake Lange's are unproductive at, you know, at their least, certainly when it comes to promoting conservative values, and inspirational at their worst to those who might want to join the ranks of these violent communists to push back on individuals like Jake Lange, because it feeds directly into their narratives.
- 3:03:38SPEAKER_56: And it's incredibly uh it's incredibly unfortunate.
- 3:03:40SPEAKER_56: What is good news, though, is that it's there seems to be, you know, universal condemnation uh coming from conservatives regarding his ridiculous attention-seeking uh engagement farming uh actions.
- 3:03:52SPEAKER_56: All right.
- 3:03:52SPEAKER_56: A couple of items to note.
- 3:03:54SPEAKER_56: Uh again, tonight I'll be out at the uh the ballpark uh restaurant, uh ballpark twin cities in Blaine on 65.
- 3:04:00SPEAKER_56: Uh the uh SD32 Republicans are meeting for their uh for their monthly um uh BPOU meeting.
- 3:04:05SPEAKER_56: So I'm gonna come on by and say a few words if you happen to be in the area and you want to stop by.
- 3:04:09SPEAKER_56: The social gatherings at 5 30.
- 3:04:11SPEAKER_56: The event starts around 6 30.
- 3:04:13SPEAKER_56: I'll be speaking at the beginning because uh it'll be up past by bedtime.
- 3:04:16SPEAKER_56: I need to go get some uh some sleep.
- 3:04:18SPEAKER_56: And of course, we'll be out at the Minnesota State Fair this uh Saturday.
- 3:04:21SPEAKER_56: Somebody had asked, is this the only day?
- 3:04:23SPEAKER_56: Yes, this is the only day that Center of the American Experiment will be out at the Minnesota State Fair.
- 3:04:27SPEAKER_56: The location of the booth for the Minnesota State Fair will be over by the grandstand.
- 3:04:32SPEAKER_56: If you're familiar with it's where usually all of the different media outlets uh are, I think KFN's right over there.
- 3:04:38SPEAKER_56: Uh the Minnesotan, uh shout out to my buddy Corey over at the uh over the Minnesotan.
- 3:04:44SPEAKER_56: Love me some some Minnesotan clothes.
- 3:04:47SPEAKER_56: I need to get me some Minnesotan stuff for the show.
- 3:04:50unknown: Yeah.
- 3:04:50SPEAKER_56: Um, we're gonna be located right over right over there.
- 3:04:53SPEAKER_56: So uh Corey had texted earlier and I'll come on by and say hi, absolutely.
- 3:04:56SPEAKER_56: But I will be there 11 until one, handing out a lot of free stuff that we have here from Center of the American Experiment.
- 3:05:02SPEAKER_56: And I look forward to uh to seeing you on uh on Saturday.
- 3:05:05SPEAKER_56: Between now and then, we still have four uh shows to do.
- 3:05:08SPEAKER_56: A little change this week.
- 3:05:09SPEAKER_56: Uh, David Garton Steiner Ross will be on the show Wednesday at 6:30.
- 3:05:14SPEAKER_56: Not tomorrow to talk uh artificial uh intelligence.
- 3:05:17SPEAKER_56: But we'll certainly have all of the latest uh news of the day to share with you uh starting uh tomorrow morning and stuff in the stack that I did not get a chance uh to get into today, including the Teachers Union is boycotting Target now, saying that the company was silent on the ICE surge.
- 3:05:34SPEAKER_56: Yes, because apparently Target needed to speak up uh out against ice.
- 3:05:38SPEAKER_56: No, the teachers union is looking for some uh support and some press and to have people join their ranks, and so they're making Target a Target of their IR uh once again.
- 3:05:48SPEAKER_56: Also, residents are weighing in on the impacts of the ICE detention center in Appleton.
- 3:05:53SPEAKER_56: So those are a few of the stories I didn't get a chance to cover on the uh on the show today.
- 3:05:57SPEAKER_56: We'll certainly dive into those and more tomorrow morning on the show.
- 3:06:00SPEAKER_56: If you missed any portion of today's John Justice show presented by American Experiment, you can listen to the podcast available on the Mix LR app.
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- 3:06:30SPEAKER_56: So you never miss any of the highlights of the show on uh social media.
- 3:06:35SPEAKER_56: Have yourself a fantastic rest of your Monday, and I'll talk to you guys tomorrow morning starting at uh 6 a.m.
- 3:06:41SPEAKER_56: God bless, and I'll talk to you then.
- 3:06:42SPEAKER_56: Bye.