Latest / Mac & Bone Podcast / Mac & Bone Hour 2: Reaction to Ejiro Evero Firing
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- 0:22Speaker 1: I need these guys. And this is, as you can imagine,
- 0:25Speaker 1: you know, this is a very emotional, very hard day
- 0:27Speaker 1: for all of us. And we need to rally together.
- 0:31Speaker 1: And we have a staff that is very capable. We
- 0:33Speaker 1: have a staff that's committed to doing things the right way.
- 0:36Speaker 1: And I want them to feel that confidence for me.
- 0:39Speaker 1: You know, they're here so that we can take the
- 0:42Speaker 1: next step together as a group and to find solutions.
- 0:45Speaker 1: And there's a lot of urgency around this, you know,
- 0:49Speaker 1: and that's where we need to be. It's about this week.
- 0:51Speaker 1: It's about right now. and as we build this thing,
- 0:54Speaker 1: it's going to take that whole crew, and it's a
- 0:56Speaker 1: group of guys that I really trust and that I'm
- 0:58Speaker 1: counting on.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Coach Canales on Friday talking about does this send a message.
- 1:06Speaker 3: To the staff?
- 1:07Speaker 2: Does this kind of rally the staff when you make
- 1:10Speaker 2: a change like this?
- 1:11Speaker 3: I'm sure everybody looks around, players too, and it's like, damn. Okay.
- 1:15Speaker 2: They're not messing around. And I will say this about
- 1:19Speaker 2: Coach Canales' bone. We can talk about the move. I
- 1:22Speaker 2: want to hear what Panther fans think about the move.
- 1:24Speaker 2: We're going to get right back into college football. We
- 1:27Speaker 2: have so much to talk about from the weekend. Big
- 1:29Speaker 2: wins for local teams. Good efforts and losses. Carolina and
- 1:33Speaker 2: Charlotte both. I wanted those wins for y'all so bad
- 1:37Speaker 2: this weekend. So we'll talk about it all. But I
- 1:41Speaker 2: will say this before we get into it. Canales, well,
- 1:45Speaker 2: Panther Cliff's just saying the same thing. Panther Cliff says
- 1:48Speaker 2: Canales looked like his puppy dog died. I was going
- 1:50Speaker 2: to say something similar. He looked like, I mean, he
- 1:55Speaker 2: is Mr.
- 1:55Speaker 4: Pep.
- 1:56Speaker 2: And between the loss the night before, Bone, and having
- 1:59Speaker 2: to do this, you could tell it wore on him.
- 2:00Speaker 5: Well, I think the week in general probably wore on
- 2:03Speaker 5: him because Tampa Bay on Sunday, trying to recover from
- 2:08Speaker 5: that quickly, get ready for Green Bay. You lose again,
- 2:11Speaker 5: so you lose two games in five days, and you
- 2:13Speaker 5: have to fire your D.C.
- 2:15Speaker 3: After that. Who knows?
- 2:17Speaker 5: Maybe he already knew that he had to do that
- 2:18Speaker 5: because they wanted to wait on that move. So that's
- 2:21Speaker 5: a heck of a long week, man, in the coaching world.
- 2:23Speaker 5: That's got to feel like a 15-day week for Dave Canales.
- 2:27Speaker 3: No doubt.
- 2:28Speaker 5: You've got to really have a rough week to take
- 2:29Speaker 5: the pep out of Dave Canales, by the way. I
- 2:33Speaker 5: think it feels like a 15-day.
- 2:35Speaker 3: Week for us.
- 2:36Speaker 2: I mean, I cannot believe, Bone, you look at our
- 2:38Speaker 2: attitude going into the Bucs game, riding high. Boosting up
- 2:43Speaker 2: expectations and think about where they were five days later.
- 2:47Speaker 3: Like it's unbelievable.
- 2:48Speaker 2: My whole like Panther ethos, like my whole like Panther
- 2:52Speaker 2: fan mental state has been rocked in five freaking days.
- 2:57Speaker 5: I can't believe how quickly things have turned. Doesn't even
- 3:00Speaker 5: feel like Tampa Green Bay was in the same week.
- 3:02Speaker 5: But it just feels like there was a lot that
- 3:04Speaker 5: went on there. But, yes, it was the same week.
- 3:07Speaker 5: I'm just glad, Mac, you didn't do what Finney's suggestion
- 3:09Speaker 5: was and after the game say, Todd.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Walsh got a new job. They're like, what? Todd, the
- 3:15Speaker 3: gooey needs more work.
- 3:17Speaker 2: That tone might not have– gotten it done.
- 3:22Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
- 3:22Speaker 2: Big country says, how will he look when David Moore retires?
- 3:26Speaker 2: This texter says, full disclosure, I am not a good
- 3:31Speaker 2: looking man, the texter says.
- 3:32Speaker 4: I'm sorry?
- 3:33Speaker 2: But, and Dave Canales is, but has anybody noticed the
- 3:36Speaker 2: job is wearing on Dave? Gamecock Kevin sent me a
- 3:40Speaker 2: picture of Canales bone. bags under his eyes, and I'm
- 3:44Speaker 2: just like, oh, that Panther job like it did to
- 3:46Speaker 2: Frank Reich.
- 3:47Speaker 5: Matt Rule. Matt Rule, that Panther job, doing it again.
- 3:50Speaker 5: Panther coaches age like presidents.
- 3:53Speaker 3: It's crazy. What do you think, Bone, about— It's amazing
- 3:56Speaker 3: we look as young as we do still. What do.
- 4:01Speaker 2: You think about the firing of Avero? Like, were you surprised?
- 4:05Speaker 2: Do you feel like it could spark something? What do
- 4:08Speaker 2: you think?
- 4:08Speaker 5: I think sometimes head coaching fires spark something. There's a
- 4:11Speaker 5: boot stop when head coaches get fired. We saw it
- 4:14Speaker 5: a couple times. in college over the weekend. I don't
- 4:17Speaker 5: know what this does in the immediate for the defense
- 4:22Speaker 5: because it's going to be a lot of the same
- 4:24Speaker 5: schematic stuff that Avera runs. It's his guys on the staff.
- 4:28Speaker 5: The players are the same.
- 4:30Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 4:31Speaker 5: Todd Walsh, it's not like Todd Walsh had a great
- 4:34Speaker 5: defensive front going and everything else was going wrong. It's
- 4:37Speaker 5: still the same guy that coached those guys up. So
- 4:41Speaker 5: I think I'm not shocked that Averro got fired. I
- 4:44Speaker 5: just don't know what the boost will be in the
- 4:47Speaker 5: immediate right now. I just don't, I don't know what
- 4:50Speaker 5: it's going to be.
- 4:50Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I don't know if it's going to
- 4:52Speaker 2: change a whole lot. I did not expect it at all.
- 4:54Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie to you. I did not
- 4:56Speaker 2: expect it all. Averro's name came up on Friday, but
- 4:59Speaker 2: most fans defended Averro on Friday and an odd twist
- 5:02Speaker 2: and said defense wasn't the problem. Defense hung in there
- 5:06Speaker 2: pretty well with being down to your fifth, sixth, and
- 5:09Speaker 2: seventh corners by the second half of that game. This
- 5:13Speaker 2: is obviously not about Thursday. You said it. A lot
- 5:16Speaker 2: of people do wonder, was a decision made? Willie P
- 5:19Speaker 2: brought up a good point. Was a decision made after
- 5:21Speaker 2: the Tampa game? But hey, we got to let him
- 5:24Speaker 2: get us through this short week. I don't have any, like,
- 5:29Speaker 2: you get your corners back and you get Phillips back
- 5:32Speaker 2: and I think the defense will improve. Todd Walsh might
- 5:35Speaker 2: get the credit for it when that happens, but I
- 5:37Speaker 2: think it's that simple. I, I am not one of
- 5:40Speaker 2: these people that ever, like I saw people celebrating Avero
- 5:43Speaker 2: getting fired. I'm talking about media members too, that like
- 5:46Speaker 2: really thought he was really bad. I never believed he
- 5:49Speaker 2: was this terrible doofus. Like, I just I never believed
- 5:52Speaker 2: that was twenty twenty four hideous. Yes, it was all
- 5:54Speaker 2: time bad hideous. But I think they just took Lou
- 5:57Speaker 2: away from him. They just took Burns away from him.
- 5:59Speaker 2: And Brown was lost for the season. The personnel in
- 6:02Speaker 2: that twenty twenty four defense was was terrible. And Dan
- 6:04Speaker 2: Morgan said, hey, I got to get a better personnel.
- 6:07Speaker 2: He got him better personnel and they improved last year.
- 6:10Speaker 2: They got to middle of the pack. He was fourth
- 6:12Speaker 2: in total defense his first year. It was the only
- 6:14Speaker 2: thing that was worth the crap.
- 6:16Speaker 3: They got no help from the offense at all in
- 6:17Speaker 3: Bryce's rookie year.
- 6:18Speaker 2: I just feel like it's always been an up-and-down tenure,
- 6:22Speaker 2: but I do understand Bone. It feels to me, and
- 6:25Speaker 2: I don't know if it was Dave's thinking, Tepper's thinking,
- 6:29Speaker 2: but it feels, Morgan, I don't know who, but it
- 6:31Speaker 2: feels to me like somebody thought, we got to send
- 6:35Speaker 2: a message. We got to change something. And they're not
- 6:38Speaker 2: going to change Izzik. That just happened, right? They were
- 6:42Speaker 2: good for the first five games. I don't think there's
- 6:45Speaker 2: really anything anywhere else to go, Boney, with it other
- 6:49Speaker 2: than a Giro Avero. And this year was shaping up.
- 6:53Speaker 2: The injuries obviously are a big reason why. But this
- 6:56Speaker 2: year was shaping up to be another disappointing year because
- 6:59Speaker 2: we expected top 10 out of this damn unit. I mean,
- 7:02Speaker 2: he's too classy of a guy.
- 7:03Speaker 5: He's too good of a person for me to sit
- 7:05Speaker 5: here and celebrate that he lost his job. This is
- 7:08Speaker 5: a guy that was easy to root for. Always said
- 7:10Speaker 5: the right things, carried himself the right way. So from
- 7:13Speaker 5: that standpoint, yeah, there's no celebrating here. Also, Mac, the
- 7:17Speaker 5: timing of this, you know, Willie P brought up the
- 7:19Speaker 5: point of, oh, maybe they already made the decision after
- 7:21Speaker 5: Tampa Bay. You also wonder, they do have a mini
- 7:24Speaker 5: bye week here in a way because of when they
- 7:26Speaker 5: played Green Bay to get ready for Denver. So is
- 7:28Speaker 5: that part of it on the other end that they
- 7:31Speaker 5: have time here for Todd Walsh? to get acclimated to
- 7:34Speaker 5: be the D.C. So I wonder if that timing was
- 7:36Speaker 5: also part of it, too.
- 7:37Speaker 3: Could be. Definitely could be.
- 7:38Speaker 5: So timing could have worked on both ends of it
- 7:41Speaker 5: was after Tampa, but also there's a lot of time
- 7:43Speaker 5: before they played Denver.
- 7:44Speaker 3: Maybe that played a part of it.
- 7:45Speaker 2: Well, yeah.
- 7:45Speaker 3: No, definitely. I think that's obvious timing.
- 7:49Speaker 2: Anytime anybody makes any kind of coaching change, I think
- 7:51Speaker 2: you'll see a bye week or, you know what I mean?
- 7:53Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Like you want them to have some extra time. I'm
- 7:56Speaker 2: not going to act like, um, uh, Panther Bo says,
- 8:00Speaker 2: are we sure Averro wasn't actually trying to get fired? Well,
- 8:03Speaker 2: remember after Frank Reich season, Averro tried to leave. David
- 8:07Speaker 2: Tepper said, no, I'm holding you to your contract. You
- 8:09Speaker 2: can't leave for an equal job. So like they, David
- 8:13Speaker 2: Tepper wanted to keep him here and Canales then, you know,
- 8:15Speaker 2: had him as his DC. And after 2024, when nobody
- 8:19Speaker 2: would have really like, I thought it was obvious it
- 8:22Speaker 2: wasn't coaching. why he went from the fourth defense total
- 8:25Speaker 2: rank to last by a mile, but that could have
- 8:29Speaker 2: been an obvious firing spot. Canales stuck with him, says,
- 8:33Speaker 2: I was hopeful. I knew what this scheme can do,
- 8:36Speaker 2: and I was hopeful. I don't know. I just don't...
- 8:39Speaker 2: The Averro slander, I'm not saying he was perfect. Were
- 8:42Speaker 2: there key situations last year, New Orleans and the Rams
- 8:45Speaker 2: in the playoffs, where it's like, I would have liked
- 8:47Speaker 2: a little more aggression? Yeah.
- 8:49Speaker 3: I can't deny that, Bone. I.
- 8:51Speaker 2: I saw it with Dan Orlovsky, who said he's a
- 8:53Speaker 2: good football coach. I think he's a good football coach.
- 8:56Speaker 2: I think teams wanted him for a reason to be
- 8:58Speaker 2: a head coach or at least sniffed around him, including
- 9:00Speaker 2: the Panthers. He got two interviews, Bone, when Wright got
- 9:02Speaker 2: hired and when Canales got hired. He got interviews as
- 9:06Speaker 2: a possible head coach. I understand them wanting to change
- 9:10Speaker 2: something because David Tepper did flat out say this is
- 9:12Speaker 2: a playoff team.
- 9:13Speaker 3: And if they don't make the playoffs, it's a failure.
- 9:17Speaker 2: Even with the injuries, Bowen, I'll have some sympathy because
- 9:21Speaker 2: these injuries are ridiculous. But in this crappy division, if
- 9:26Speaker 2: they don't make the playoffs, it's got to be deemed
- 9:29Speaker 2: a failure, right?
- 9:31Speaker 4: It does.
- 9:31Speaker 5: I think he'll land on his feet. Maybe he goes
- 9:34Speaker 5: and he's up. secondary coach for a year. I think
- 9:36Speaker 5: he'll work his way back up. I think he's, I
- 9:39Speaker 5: think he's too good. And I think eventually we'll look
- 9:41Speaker 5: back and say, yeah, that maybe the time ran out
- 9:44Speaker 5: here for him. But I think that guy still got
- 9:46Speaker 5: a lot of good football left in him as a coach.
- 9:48Speaker 3: He's young.
- 9:49Speaker 2: I think so too. I'm not so certain he doesn't
- 9:50Speaker 2: get a coordinator job right away. He'll work his way
- 9:52Speaker 2: back up.
- 9:53Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 9:53Speaker 3: He'll work his way back up.
- 9:54Speaker 2: I'm not sure he had like, we'll see. I had
- 9:56Speaker 2: no Fowler made a comment. He thinks he goes right
- 9:58Speaker 2: back into the DC pool or whatever. has a lot
- 10:00Speaker 2: of connections around the league. It just feels like they
- 10:03Speaker 2: wanted to do something and they wanted to send a message.
- 10:05Speaker 2: It wasn't going to be on offense. So who's it
- 10:07Speaker 2: going to be?
- 10:09Speaker 4: Cooley.
- 10:09Speaker 2: It feels like bone is just guilty by association that
- 10:12Speaker 2: these two guys were tight. They were in LA together.
- 10:15Speaker 2: Avero brought him here, you know, and, and Todd wash canal,
- 10:19Speaker 2: you know, has the Canales ties.
- 10:21Speaker 5: Yep.
- 10:21Speaker 2: Didn't work with Avero in the past, but work with Canales.
- 10:24Speaker 2: I just, I don't have, I feel like we get
- 10:27Speaker 2: healthier on defense. We'll get better on defense. I don't
- 10:29Speaker 2: necessarily feel like Todd wash is going to wave a
- 10:32Speaker 2: magic wand that is your Avero didn't have.
- 10:35Speaker 3: This makes me sad. All this makes me sad. It's
- 10:38Speaker 3: all unraveled so quickly. That's what I was saying. I
- 10:40Speaker 3: know we just talked about it.
- 10:41Speaker 2: Can you believe how quickly our mood has changed from
- 10:44Speaker 2: feeling so good about this team at three and two
- 10:46Speaker 2: to this? Like, I cannot believe how our Panther world
- 10:50Speaker 2: has crumbled down in five days.
- 10:54Speaker 3: It's just crazy. So what do y'all think about the firing? 704-570-9610.
- 10:58Speaker 2: Dan Galizak said the front office really didn't help him either.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Is he talking about.
- 11:07Speaker 5: like not doing, like not making a trade for a
- 11:09Speaker 5: corner here. Well, yeah, maybe it's the Burns-Luvu stuff you're
- 11:13Speaker 5: talking about as well. Maybe that's part of it. That's
- 11:15Speaker 5: way back when. That was before Dan Morgan was the GM.
- 11:19Speaker 2: Oh, no. Was that Dan's first offseason as GM? Dan's
- 11:22Speaker 2: first offseason. Yeah, because he was dealing with the Luvu,
- 11:25Speaker 2: and he was dealing with the Burns thing. As far
- 11:27Speaker 2: as right now, I've got sympathy. When you're dealing with
- 11:33Speaker 2: injuries this long, Like, this wave of injuries at the
- 11:40Speaker 2: same position. Like, we got a texter saying everybody deals
- 11:43Speaker 2: with injuries. Stop making excuses for Rivero. When you're down
- 11:46Speaker 2: to your fifth, sixth, and seventh corners and you're playing
- 11:49Speaker 2: Jordan Love and that pass offense, I don't understand how
- 11:53Speaker 2: you can't bring it up. Like, it's part of the context.
- 11:56Speaker 2: You don't have your best pass rusher. And they did okay.
- 11:59Speaker 3: Despite blitzing. And they did okay in the game.
- 12:02Speaker 5: I mean, yes, Jordan Love certainly had a big game,
- 12:05Speaker 5: but that wasn't like the other games where they got
- 12:07Speaker 5: completely gutted and gave up, you know, 40 or 50 points.
- 12:11Speaker 5: They actually held their own pretty well, all things considered,
- 12:13Speaker 5: in that game. Yeah, held them to seven points in
- 12:15Speaker 5: the second half. You've said it. The defense outside of
- 12:17Speaker 5: two games has held their own in a lot of
- 12:19Speaker 5: these games. That's my thing about this year. Like, they
- 12:21Speaker 5: have looked pretty good in five games.
- 12:25Speaker 2: The two games, they have looked like they have no
- 12:27Speaker 2: business being on an NFL field defensively. So I just
- 12:31Speaker 2: want to put context in there. But then again, Bone,
- 12:33Speaker 2: the offense looked pretty good for five games. Where has
- 12:36Speaker 2: all this got us?
- 12:37Speaker 3: Three and four. But still in first place by ourselves, baby!
- 12:41Speaker 3: Who runs the South?
- 12:44Speaker 2: Scary Banana said, looked like Averro had an idea he
- 12:46Speaker 2: was getting fired with how he was blitzing with Lloyd
- 12:49Speaker 2: and Merritt over and over all night, even though they
- 12:52Speaker 2: weren't getting close to love but left voids in the
- 12:54Speaker 2: middle of the field and we got torched. So now
- 12:57Speaker 2: Averro's blitzing too much. He blitz 51% of the time.
- 13:01Speaker 2: It wasn't getting home. And I will, but, and he
- 13:04Speaker 2: has blitz bone.
- 13:06Speaker 3: Way more.
- 13:06Speaker 2: They're, I think, seventh in the league in blitz percentage
- 13:09Speaker 2: this year. They are normally in the bottom third of it,
- 13:12Speaker 2: or the middle at most. And that had been a
- 13:14Speaker 2: criticism from people, if Arrow doesn't blitz enough. Well, this year,
- 13:17Speaker 2: he made a cognizant effort to blitz more, and the
- 13:20Speaker 2: returns were all right in some games, but on the whole,
- 13:23Speaker 2: not great. Like, and the other day, to not get
- 13:25Speaker 2: a sack and blitz 51% of the time, I forget
- 13:28Speaker 2: what the actual stat was. Joe Person had it. But, like,
- 13:31Speaker 2: that is something that had not been done in a
- 13:33Speaker 2: long-ass time. is to blitz that much and not get
- 13:37Speaker 2: one sack in a football game and i think you
- 13:39Speaker 2: can say bone that the green bay offensive staff completely
- 13:43Speaker 2: had no problem with the blitzes and like that is
- 13:46Speaker 2: that is you know an element of getting out coached
- 13:49Speaker 2: i would say texter says matt the only reason that
- 13:52Speaker 2: you can't use the only game you can't use the
- 13:54Speaker 2: corner excuse for injuries is tampa bay we could have
- 13:57Speaker 2: had nobody playing corner and still lost the way that
- 13:59Speaker 2: we did but remember talking about that the run game
- 14:02Speaker 2: the horn and mike jack are great tackling corners and
- 14:06Speaker 2: buck said those corners were targeted like they were running
- 14:09Speaker 2: at those corners at those edges of course we didn't
- 14:12Speaker 2: have phillips.
- 14:12Speaker 3: And we did better than atlanta did so.
- 14:14Speaker 2: That is that is true tampa made me feel a
- 14:17Speaker 2: little better yesterday not having to complete a pass and
- 14:19Speaker 2: whooping whooping the falcons tampa's going straight army army on
- 14:23Speaker 2: people 704. General Mayfield. Baker going to be running that
- 14:29Speaker 2: damn wing tee option before you know it. Hell, he
- 14:32Speaker 2: did have an option play. That was the one Bucky
- 14:34Speaker 2: fumbled at the one yard line. Like he got, he
- 14:37Speaker 2: turned it into an option. I don't think it was
- 14:39Speaker 2: designed that way, but he ended up just running the option,
- 14:41Speaker 2: pitching it to Bucky.
- 14:42Speaker 5: It would have been worse. But he fumbled at the one.
- 14:44Speaker 5: Reminds me of when Nebraska was good.
- 14:47Speaker 3: Baker's getting his Tommy Frazier on, baby.
- 14:49Speaker 2: 704 says, my pushback, the rushing rankings have been poor
- 14:54Speaker 2: under his tenure.
- 14:56Speaker 3: Week one happened with a healthy defense. Oh, it did.
- 14:58Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you can't deny that. And you can't
- 15:00Speaker 2: deny that we are in the... Fourth year overall of Arrow,
- 15:05Speaker 2: the third year with Canales, and, like, they should be
- 15:08Speaker 2: past those pathetic games. Like, yeah, it was only two,
- 15:12Speaker 2: and most of the other games were pretty darn good. But, yeah,
- 15:15Speaker 2: I mean, they should be past that. But I would
- 15:17Speaker 2: also say, Bone, this whole team should be past some
- 15:19Speaker 2: of the stuff I've seen. Like, year three of Condales,
- 15:23Speaker 2: we should be past the way we are looking recently.
- 15:26Speaker 2: And it's hard to completely gauge because the injuries to
- 15:29Speaker 2: the O-line and injuries to corner specifically are just ridiculous, man.
- 15:33Speaker 5: Matt, can't say I've done this before going to break,
- 15:35Speaker 5: but we have an update from the Field of 68
- 15:38Speaker 5: opening day marathon. App State got going in hoops at
- 15:41Speaker 5: 6 a.m. this morning against Mary Mac. They lead by
- 15:46Speaker 5: 19 in the second half at the 15-minute mark.
- 15:48Speaker 4: Time out.
- 15:50Speaker 3: There you go. There you go, baby.
- 15:52Speaker 5: So that is your morning. Your rare hoops and eggs
- 15:57Speaker 5: update there. High point one, the game at midnight. Queens
- 16:02Speaker 5: and Winthrop coming up at 9 a.m.
- 16:04Speaker 3: This morning.
- 16:04Speaker 5: Those games available on YouTube. We come back. College football conclusions.
- 16:09Speaker 5: What stuck out from the weekend, both locally and nationally? Mac, also,
- 16:15Speaker 5: where did the Ohio State fans go? Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
- 16:30Speaker 6: Really proud of our effort tonight, but unfortunately came a
- 16:33Speaker 6: little bit short. They're not disappointing. Miami's really good, really
- 16:39Speaker 6: good on offense. They've got two great players and a
- 16:42Speaker 6: lot of other good players. We obviously had a hard
- 16:45Speaker 6: time handling them, although I thought we actually defended them
- 16:48Speaker 6: pretty well. But, I mean, they made a couple of
- 16:50Speaker 6: great plays that you don't see too many people make.
- 16:54Speaker 6: So they're very good. Very good on offense. One score
- 17:03Speaker 6: back and forth game, and then they got the turnover,
- 17:06Speaker 6: and then that became a two-score game. Couldn't get the
- 17:11Speaker 6: onside kick, so that's pretty much the story of it.
- 17:16Speaker 3: Settle down, Bill.
- 17:16Speaker 2: There you go, Bill Belichick, passionately recounting the game.
- 17:19Speaker 3: It's just a game, Bill.
- 17:20Speaker 2: Saturday night afterwards, giving you his passionate breakdown of how
- 17:24Speaker 2: the game happened. I hate it for Carolina fans. That
- 17:27Speaker 2: was so close. I still think you should be, if
- 17:30Speaker 2: you're a Heels fan, invigorated by it. I still think
- 17:33Speaker 2: you should see the progress. Hell, even Syracuse went up
- 17:37Speaker 2: and beat SMU afterwards. Maybe that helped a little bit.
- 17:41Speaker 2: But you could clearly see the progress that is being made.
- 17:44Speaker 2: I actually want to see what Bill can do in
- 17:47Speaker 2: year three. I've actually reached that point, Boney. which I
- 17:52Speaker 2: never thought I would reach.
- 17:55Speaker 5: He's much more comfortable. The team is built in a
- 17:59Speaker 5: way that resembles Belichick teams. Thurman is ridiculous. Shipp is incredible.
- 18:05Speaker 5: But that voice you heard there talking back, that is
- 18:07Speaker 5: the voice that I can't say he's a broken-hearted man
- 18:10Speaker 5: because I don't know if he has a heart at all,
- 18:13Speaker 5: but if he had a heart, that's a broken-hearted man
- 18:15Speaker 5: right there.
- 18:15Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 18:17Speaker 5: I'm not really sure of what the internal organs look
- 18:19Speaker 5: like for Bill Belichick, though.
- 18:21Speaker 3: Let's see here.
- 18:22Speaker 2: Let's talk about a couple of things with Miami. What
- 18:27Speaker 2: do we think about the onside kick calls? Do we
- 18:31Speaker 2: think literally the ACC— it was not going to let
- 18:36Speaker 2: Miami lose that game? Because I think when we watched
- 18:38Speaker 2: Florida State and they called that lame holding on the
- 18:40Speaker 2: first Hail Mary they got, then when they didn't award
- 18:43Speaker 2: the double catch to the offense on the next Hail Mary,
- 18:46Speaker 2: we got the feeling the ACC was not going to
- 18:48Speaker 2: let Miami lose the Florida State game. Do you have
- 18:51Speaker 2: the same feeling, Bone, after the onside kicks? I saw,
- 18:55Speaker 2: what is the dude's name that has worked with Levitard
- 18:59Speaker 2: that's a Tar Heel?
- 19:01Speaker 3: Taylor... Taylor... Vipolis?
- 19:03Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 19:04Speaker 3: Taylor Vipolis tweeted out.
- 19:07Speaker 2: That they would have made Carolina do as many onside
- 19:11Speaker 2: kicks as it would have taken for Miami to have
- 19:15Speaker 2: the ball.
- 19:15Speaker 3: Do you agree with that? It's very interesting.
- 19:18Speaker 5: I'm far from defending the heels here, but I'm getting
- 19:23Speaker 5: a little tired of it always feels like whenever these
- 19:26Speaker 5: situations happen, they always benefit Miami. The pass interference call
- 19:30Speaker 5: that Belichick went crazy on was egregious.
- 19:33Speaker 3: Now it worked out because.
- 19:35Speaker 5: The Heels ended up scoring right afterwards, a couple plays after.
- 19:39Speaker 5: So it wasn't that big of a deal per se.
- 19:42Speaker 5: But I just feel like Miami's always on a certain
- 19:45Speaker 5: side of these things, right? When's the last time, Mac,
- 19:47Speaker 5: we talked about Miami getting screwed? Does it ever happen
- 19:52Speaker 5: that way?
- 19:52Speaker 3: I can't imagine.
- 19:53Speaker 5: They're always, whether or not, you know, we can say, well,
- 19:55Speaker 5: you know, I kind of get the call. It feels
- 19:56Speaker 5: like Miami is always on the side of us saying,
- 20:00Speaker 5: how did Miami get that call?
- 20:01Speaker 3: And it goes way back. It goes back a long way.
- 20:04Speaker 5: And it just makes you wonder, because of their standing
- 20:06Speaker 5: in the ACC, do they benefit at times from that?
- 20:10Speaker 3: It's at least got to be asked. Oh, they obviously benefit.
- 20:12Speaker 3: If Miami gets beat, look out.
- 20:15Speaker 5: There's so many examples of the U getting away with
- 20:18Speaker 5: something or benefiting from something.
- 20:19Speaker 3: So, Fitty, let's talk about the onside. I don't like
- 20:21Speaker 3: the fact that my heels had to deal with that
- 20:23Speaker 3: this weekend. Did they get screwed on the onside kick, Fitty?
- 20:26Speaker 3: Either one.
- 20:27Speaker 2: The second one to me, definitely, he hit him before
- 20:31Speaker 2: the ball went 10 yards.
- 20:32Speaker 3: I saw it in a game earlier, too. I forget
- 20:34Speaker 3: which one it was.
- 20:35Speaker 2: Those, like, kicker up the middle onside kicks– They really are, like,
- 20:41Speaker 2: those things, they can be effective. Like, I watched a
- 20:44Speaker 2: couple this weekend, but you can't hit them before it
- 20:46Speaker 2: goes 10 yards. The first one, though, is the one
- 20:49Speaker 2: I might be pissed about. I can't tell. First of all,
- 20:52Speaker 2: the guy they called it on, like, I don't even
- 20:54Speaker 2: think he was the offside guy. The guy out wide
- 20:56Speaker 2: would be, but I'm still not sure he was offside.
- 20:59Speaker 2: Almost like they were looking for something.
- 21:01Speaker 3: I didn't get that sense in the moment.
- 21:05Speaker 7: But you start kind of processing this maybe after you
- 21:08Speaker 7: just get done dissecting the loss. And I thought there
- 21:12Speaker 7: was a more critical complaint about the first one than
- 21:15Speaker 7: the second one just because the guy that was offside
- 21:17Speaker 7: didn't impact the play. And that was, I guess, the
- 21:20Speaker 7: thing that I was really... Focused on, and then the
- 21:24Speaker 7: same thing happened against Clemson. Remember when we took Clemson
- 21:26Speaker 7: to the wire in the ACC championship game back in 2015?
- 21:29Speaker 3: Oh, y'all are scarred by this.
- 21:31Speaker 7: We were offside. The guy that was offside didn't impact
- 21:33Speaker 7: the play. I guess you gotta call it.
- 21:35Speaker 3: I didn't even know he was offside. So you're conceding
- 21:39Speaker 3: he was offside? No, but... God, I hate it for y'all.
- 21:43Speaker 7: The way that McElroy, who I think has emerged as
- 21:45Speaker 7: the best analyst in the game, made me believe that
- 21:48Speaker 7: they got both those calls right.
- 21:50Speaker 3: My bigger gripe was.
- 21:52Speaker 7: The pass interference call where Belichick in his year and
- 21:56Speaker 7: a half on the job showed as much animation as
- 21:59Speaker 7: he's done in his entire coaching career where he told
- 22:01Speaker 7: the official F you and F that.
- 22:04Speaker 3: That's what you want from your coach, baby.
- 22:06Speaker 7: That to me I thought was more egregious because the
- 22:08Speaker 7: very next play they score, whereas you finally forced a
- 22:11Speaker 7: field goal.
- 22:11Speaker 3: They were going to have to kick a field goal.
- 22:12Speaker 5: The offsides one I was the one questioning because the
- 22:15Speaker 5: one that you could clearly see that he– that McDonald
- 22:19Speaker 5: hit the player before. That one was pretty simple to me,
- 22:23Speaker 5: that he hit the player blocking before the ball got there.
- 22:25Speaker 5: The offside one, though, McIlroy was pretty sure about it,
- 22:28Speaker 5: like Finney. I didn't really see a great look at
- 22:30Speaker 5: that one. To me, it's like, are they looking for something?
- 22:32Speaker 2: All right, so we'll talk more because I want to
- 22:35Speaker 2: talk about the good side of it, how competitive Carolina was.
- 22:38Speaker 2: We'll do that in Pumped or Pished. You know we
- 22:40Speaker 2: got to talk Gamecock win, Boney. You know we got
- 22:42Speaker 2: to talk about Wake Forest rolling again.
- 22:45Speaker 3: But more conclusions.
- 22:46Speaker 2: What like what stuck out to you, Bone, this weekend
- 22:49Speaker 2: in college football?
- 22:51Speaker 5: The Florida State situation with Mike Norvell, it's a huge buyout.
- 22:56Speaker 5: But to me, that's going to be a fascinating hire,
- 23:00Speaker 5: not just for Florida State, but for the ACC, as
- 23:03Speaker 5: they're in there right now, of course. The conference needs
- 23:08Speaker 5: that program to be like what Miami has become, to
- 23:11Speaker 5: be near the top. That helps the conference in a
- 23:14Speaker 5: big way. Mack, who do you think they go and
- 23:18Speaker 5: target first? The name Deion Sanders is going to come
- 23:21Speaker 5: up a lot, despite it not going well in Colorado
- 23:24Speaker 5: right now. Yeah, that would be terrible. But he's such
- 23:25Speaker 5: a huge name. Is it possible we get Belichick, Rivers,
- 23:29Speaker 5: and Deion all in the ACC at the same time?
- 23:32Speaker 2: I think Deion, if they hire Deion, good luck. Although,
- 23:36Speaker 2: you could say the same thing about NC State with
- 23:38Speaker 2: Phillip Rivers. But I think it's going horribly for Deion
- 23:41Speaker 2: Sanders at Colorado, outside of two players, outside of two
- 23:45Speaker 2: football players. I just think it's going horribly. I would
- 23:48Speaker 2: be very worried about Manny Diaz if I were you.
- 23:50Speaker 2: And if I'm a weak fan, I'd be worried about
- 23:52Speaker 2: Jake Dicker. Like those are two perfect candidates, man. What
- 23:56Speaker 2: could they do with a big budget? Both those schools
- 23:59Speaker 2: bone have very little money compared to the rest of
- 24:02Speaker 2: the ACC and they're kicking the ACC's fanny. It would
- 24:05Speaker 2: be very smart for FSU to be, and I don't
- 24:07Speaker 2: want this to happen. I don't want good coaches to
- 24:09Speaker 2: leave this state, but you can certainly understand why FSU
- 24:12Speaker 2: is like, we'll give them more running to build a
- 24:14Speaker 2: roster and we will win the conference.
- 24:16Speaker 5: Two things here about the Duke side of this. Number one, Mac,
- 24:18Speaker 5: what ties does Manny have to Florida anyway? Besides, his
- 24:21Speaker 5: dad was the mayor of Miami there for a while,
- 24:24Speaker 5: and he grew up in Florida. Besides that, there's nothing there. Also,
- 24:27Speaker 5: I'm not going to freak out about Manny Diaz if
- 24:30Speaker 5: he decides to go for more money. That's understandable. But
- 24:34Speaker 5: I trust the Duke coaching hires right now. They've done
- 24:37Speaker 5: a great job recently from Elko. to Manny Diaz, to
- 24:41Speaker 5: all the sports programs, to John Shire, how that worked out,
- 24:44Speaker 5: to Carol Lawson. Matt, the current AD does a great
- 24:47Speaker 5: job at hiring, so I just have to trust that
- 24:49Speaker 5: if Manny does leave, they'll find the next person in line.
- 24:53Speaker 5: They're doing a great job of hiring coaches. That's definitely
- 24:55Speaker 5: a good point.
- 24:56Speaker 3: That's why I'm not going to freak out about it.
- 24:58Speaker 3: That's definitely a damn good point.
- 24:59Speaker 5: I'm not a guy that freaks out about anything.
- 25:01Speaker 2: Somebody says Bone left out the fact Manny Diaz went
- 25:03Speaker 2: to Florida State.
- 25:05Speaker 3: I think Bone wanted to leave that out on purpose.
- 25:06Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 25:07Speaker 3: I think that was his whole point there. That was the.
- 25:09Speaker 5: Whole point of what I was saying. Way to go.
- 25:13Speaker 5: Over your head. All right.
- 25:15Speaker 2: I got to do a couple of college football conclusions, Bone,
- 25:18Speaker 2: about plays I could not believe this weekend. First, the
- 25:22Speaker 2: feeble sorry onside kick attempt by Oklahoma. when they cut
- 25:27Speaker 2: it to 17, Bone, late in the game against South Carolina.
- 25:31Speaker 2: And by the way, we'll talk about it during Pumped
- 25:33Speaker 2: or Pissed, y'all, but Gamecock fans, this is the sellers.
- 25:36Speaker 2: This is the team that y'all expected to start the season.
- 25:40Speaker 2: Kendall Briles has been amazing. That O-line's been amazing.
- 25:42Speaker 3: But anyway.
- 25:43Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, Greg Venables, Dabo on line one.
- 25:45Speaker 5: He might need you back there at some point. How
- 25:48Speaker 5: about that? They just gave him an extension, too, which
- 25:51Speaker 5: is crazy. How about that onside kick, Bone? That thing
- 25:54Speaker 5: went one inch. I have never seen an onside kick
- 25:58Speaker 5: go that little forward in my life. And I also
- 26:01Speaker 5: need to mention, and this is sad, but the kid
- 26:04Speaker 5: that got hurt and apparently broke his leg for ECU,
- 26:08Speaker 5: did you see that play?
- 26:10Speaker 3: I did, where the referee went... straight baseball sliding how.
- 26:13Speaker 2: Ridiculous is that like the referee slips i know he's
- 26:16Speaker 2: not trying to but he loses his footing slips right
- 26:19Speaker 2: into the poor kid the kid for ecu breaks his
- 26:21Speaker 2: damn leg because i've never seen that he just lost
- 26:24Speaker 2: his brakes freakish man i like i'm not gonna yell
- 26:27Speaker 2: at the ref for like just for slipping but i
- 26:30Speaker 2: what are the odds that happens and the injury ends
- 26:33Speaker 2: up that severe.
- 26:34Speaker 3: The play was over, right? Yes, it was in between plays.
- 26:37Speaker 3: He was running. Where was the referee running to? I
- 26:39Speaker 3: don't know where.
- 26:40Speaker 2: He's headed wherever he's headed in between plays, and he
- 26:43Speaker 2: just lost his footing and slid right into him.
- 26:45Speaker 3: Jeez.
- 26:46Speaker 2: Freaking crazy. ECU won, but y'all know this, ECU fans.
- 26:50Speaker 2: These games are ugly lately. Like, you got a defense,
- 26:54Speaker 2: but man, that offense is struggling.
- 26:56Speaker 5: Mack, what a weekend of college football coming up here.
- 27:00Speaker 5: And this takes out, like, brand matchups that aren't as
- 27:04Speaker 5: big as we thought they would be. Oregon, Ohio State, Oklahoma,
- 27:07Speaker 5: Florida play. And that's way down the line because we have... BYU-Utah, Texas-Missouri, Bama-LSU, Kentucky-Tennessee,
- 27:17Speaker 5: Miami-Notre Dame, Georgia-Ole Miss, and the Kentucky-Tennessee, Miami-Notre Dame, Georgia-Ole
- 27:24Speaker 5: Miss game, those are all on at the same time
- 27:26Speaker 5: Saturday night. That is a Missouri-Texas ranked matchup. All those
- 27:32Speaker 5: are ranked matchups. Is it six ranked matchups? Is that
- 27:34Speaker 5: the number? Six ranked matchups. And if Northwestern would have
- 27:37Speaker 5: beat Oregon, that would have been a ranked matchup as
- 27:39Speaker 5: well because they're playing Iowa this weekend. Another game there
- 27:42Speaker 5: down the line. But, yeah, that's an absolutely ridiculously loaded
- 27:45Speaker 5: up college football weekend.
- 27:46Speaker 3: Hey, man, don't worry.
- 27:47Speaker 2: We also got to mention once Oregon beats Ohio State
- 27:50Speaker 2: this weekend, Ohio State won't be ranked, Boney.
- 27:53Speaker 3: Get them out of the rankings. Buckeye fans, you arrogant, arrogant.
- 27:58Speaker 2: Leaving your crappy, pathetic state to come here for greener
- 28:03Speaker 2: pastures asses.
- 28:04Speaker 3: Your team ain't that damn good, man.
- 28:08Speaker 2: And listen, does a lot of it have to do
- 28:09Speaker 2: with losing Julian saying it does, but what's up with
- 28:11Speaker 2: that defense giving up the big play to start the
- 28:14Speaker 2: game to Mosley?
- 28:15Speaker 3: How about tackling?
- 28:16Speaker 2: What about your attempts to tackle that freshman tight end? Made,
- 28:20Speaker 2: I mean, Tommy Trimble could only dream of a hurdle
- 28:22Speaker 2: like that, Bone, pulling that off. The defense didn't necessarily
- 28:26Speaker 2: play its part either. Like, I thought the Fahey kid
- 28:28Speaker 2: was all right. Like, I didn't think he was terrible.
- 28:31Speaker 2: They couldn't finish drives, though. Way too many field goals
- 28:33Speaker 2: kicked by the Buckeyes. But this team loses one more game, Bone.
- 28:38Speaker 2: They are in severe danger of missing. Do you think they,
- 28:40Speaker 2: are they out if they lose one more? Yeah, yeah,
- 28:43Speaker 2: they're trending in that direction. Yeah, I think so.
- 28:45Speaker 3: Here's the thing. The Florida State rule has to apply, right,
- 28:47Speaker 3: from the committee?
- 28:48Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 28:49Speaker 2: That saying ain't coming back. So they have to be
- 28:51Speaker 2: judged on how they are with Fahey, a quarterback, right?
- 28:54Speaker 4: Yes.
- 28:55Speaker 3: So I'm watching you, committee.
- 28:57Speaker 5: And their schedule looks like they've got Oregon. They've got
- 28:59Speaker 5: Northwestern after this at Nebraska and Michigan. Northwestern is... Not easy.
- 29:06Speaker 5: Chip Kelly's doing some crazy things out there offensively, although
- 29:10Speaker 5: they lost the other day. Jeremiah Smith, you might want
- 29:12Speaker 5: to go pro right now. Just go ahead and say,
- 29:14Speaker 5: you know what?
- 29:14Speaker 3: I'm out of here.
- 29:15Speaker 2: I'm not dealing with this quarterback. I mean, he had
- 29:19Speaker 2: 10 catches, but they were for eight yards per.
- 29:21Speaker 4: Yes.
- 29:21Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Also, Matt, I know you're.
- 29:23Speaker 5: Going to love this. Ohio State fans. It's been a while.
- 29:26Speaker 5: Welcome to the Common Sector.
- 29:27Speaker 6: Been a while.
- 29:28Speaker 5: Welcome to the Common Sector. Welcome to Average Ohio State.
- 29:32Speaker 5: Have a seat next to us. 704 says Buckeyes ain't
- 29:36Speaker 5: losing another game.
- 29:37Speaker 3: Book it. I mean, listen.
- 29:40Speaker 2: They're uber-talented, right? They're about to uber out of the playoffs.
- 29:45Speaker 2: If they find a way to win the rest of
- 29:47Speaker 2: those games there, I'm not totally shocked.
- 29:51Speaker 7: That's saying a lot about who Ryan Day is as
- 29:53Speaker 7: a coach, what has compromised as they've looked without Julian Sayen, who,
- 29:57Speaker 7: by the way, I think we need to give him
- 29:58Speaker 7: a little bit more credit. is a lot better than
- 30:00Speaker 7: just a guy that has great talent around him because
- 30:03Speaker 7: that offense has taken a step back since he's gotten injured.
- 30:06Speaker 3: I don't see them running the table, though. They got
- 30:10Speaker 3: three out of four at home, though, and the road
- 30:12Speaker 3: game's at Nebraska, so I don't know. And here's the thing.
- 30:14Speaker 7: When they become a three-loss team, They're not– they would
- 30:17Speaker 7: not be the best three-loss team in college football. The
- 30:20Speaker 7: best three-loss team in college football, if they stay with
- 30:23Speaker 7: three losses, is South Carolina.
- 30:24Speaker 3: Look at Finney. Look at game. I got goosebumps. Look
- 30:27Speaker 3: at game. Goosebumps. Goosebumps.
- 30:30Speaker 2: But– They'd be a three-loss team with a brand, though, Finney.
- 30:34Speaker 2: They'd be a three-loss team. Do you really trust the committee?
- 30:37Speaker 2: Gamecocks have to beat Georgia, by the way, for that.
- 30:38Speaker 7: That's why I said they've got to stay a three-loss team.
- 30:41Speaker 3: One at a time. One at a time. Just A &
- 30:43Speaker 3: M first.
- 30:44Speaker 7: If South Carolina wins out, South Carolina's going to the playoffs.
- 30:47Speaker 3: Look at Gamecocks finish. I'll find a team now. My
- 30:50Speaker 3: team just took number one to the wire, man.
- 30:52Speaker 7: I was very proud of my team on Saturday night.
- 30:55Speaker 3: They played their asses off, man. Oh, God.
- 30:58Speaker 2: All right.
- 30:58Speaker 3: Belichick's cussing out officials. We're back, baby. We're back.
- 31:01Speaker 5: Can I make one more observation, Matt? That's not college,
- 31:03Speaker 5: but it's pro-related, but it has to be said. Who
- 31:06Speaker 5: on earth decided in a CBS meeting that when they
- 31:10Speaker 5: do their in-game updates that Adam Schein is the voice
- 31:13Speaker 5: of the in-game updates? Who on God's name said the
- 31:17Speaker 5: most annoying man on the planet needs to be the
- 31:19Speaker 5: voice of the updates? He's not even, he's doing his
- 31:21Speaker 5: own routine. It's not even like, hey, the Bengals score,
- 31:24Speaker 5: they lead 20.
- 31:25Speaker 3: He's doing his, oh, hey, thank you, Andrew Catalan. Well,
- 31:28Speaker 3: here we go with an update on, I can't.
- 31:31Speaker 5: I'm able to avoid them with the Panther stuff going
- 31:34Speaker 5: on and Red Sox. Adam Schein, who decided that that
- 31:37Speaker 5: Muppet is the voice.
- 31:39Speaker 3: Of the updates?
- 31:39Speaker 2: A very smart guy, Bone, decided to put me, Adam Schein,
- 31:43Speaker 2: in the studio on Saturdays. What a cheesy announcer voice
- 31:47Speaker 2: that is. By the way, Husker Mike yapping, flapping his
- 31:51Speaker 2: gums as Nebraska loses another game this weekend to Washington
- 31:55Speaker 2: reminded me of the fact that the Nebraska buzzards are
- 31:58Speaker 2: circling on old Matty Roll. Scott Shanley, one of the
- 32:02Speaker 2: former players that has said something about it on Twitter.
- 32:05Speaker 2: There was a media guy there. They are starting the
- 32:08Speaker 2: seven-year plan, Bo. is starting to get a little old
- 32:11Speaker 2: there in.
- 32:13Speaker 3: Lincoln, Nebraska.
- 32:14Speaker 5: We need to check his audio for the rambling meter
- 32:16Speaker 5: to see how he's doing. There was definitely some stuttering
- 32:20Speaker 5: going on in that presser on Saturday night. When we
- 32:23Speaker 5: come back, a man that never stutters, that always has
- 32:25Speaker 5: the answer. Ashley Westwood, the captain of Charlotte FC, talks
- 32:28Speaker 5: about the win the other day. And, Matt, he's been
- 32:31Speaker 5: answering some questions about his own future on Sports Radio
- 32:33Speaker 5: 92.7 WFNZ.
- 32:49Speaker 3: Two-man wall in front of Westwood. Just two steps shy
- 32:52Speaker 3: of the left corner of the box. West, he sends
- 32:54Speaker 3: it high into the area.
- 32:55Speaker 4: Hit it out.
- 32:55Speaker 8: He scores! Henry Kessler, the dangerous man of the set pieces.
- 33:04Speaker 8: And Charlotte FC to the lead. Courtesy of set piece
- 33:08Speaker 8: magic from the crowd. How about that? The first of
- 33:12Speaker 8: four goals for Charlotte FC. Second resounding win in a row.
- 33:18Speaker 2: And it's coming at a good time with just one
- 33:20Speaker 2: match left before we get the postseason going. Walker Kessler,
- 33:24Speaker 2: that's a hell of a finish, Kessler. Hell of a
- 33:26Speaker 2: damn finish. You dunked on that man and put it
- 33:28Speaker 2: in the net. But let's talk about the ball. Let's
- 33:32Speaker 2: talk about the free kick from the captain. The touch
- 33:35Speaker 2: on that was beautiful. And the captain of Charlotte FC,
- 33:39Speaker 2: Ashley Westwood, is here. to celebrate the victory, hang out,
- 33:42Speaker 2: and probably talk about a bunch of things that don't
- 33:44Speaker 2: have anything to do with anything as well, I'm sure.
- 33:47Speaker 3: Halloween candy's coming up.
- 33:48Speaker 2: Halloween candy could be talked about. Westy, congratulations, man. Beautiful
- 33:53Speaker 2: free kick, beautiful win, man.
- 33:55Speaker 3: How you feeling?
- 33:56Speaker 4: Good morning again, lads. Yeah, it's good. We've had two
- 34:00Speaker 4: great results. We're fighting for top four.
- 34:02Speaker 3: Yep.
- 34:03Speaker 2: So you can do no worse than fifth. I'm not
- 34:06Speaker 2: telling you, Westy. I understand you probably understand the scenario,
- 34:08Speaker 2: but I'm telling everybody out there. Charlotte FC can do
- 34:11Speaker 2: no worse than fifth. They can do no better than fourth.
- 34:13Speaker 2: It's Charlotte FC in Chicago. We just got to sort out,
- 34:16Speaker 2: based off the results Saturday, y'all play at Miami, whether
- 34:21Speaker 2: or not you'll have home field advantage or whether or
- 34:23Speaker 2: not they'll have home field advantage. What do you think
- 34:26Speaker 2: about just drawing Chicago as an opponent? They got some
- 34:30Speaker 2: dang talent on this team. What do you think about
- 34:33Speaker 2: them as an opponent in the postseason?
- 34:36Speaker 4: Yeah, it's probably the hardest one to face. We're going
- 34:39Speaker 4: to come up against, I think, one of the most
- 34:41Speaker 4: similar to us. They're very, very organized. Obviously, they've got
- 34:44Speaker 4: a top-quality striker. So, no, it's not ideal. But if
- 34:49Speaker 4: we finish in the top four, I would fancy us
- 34:51Speaker 4: two games at home. That would be great. that's the
- 34:54Speaker 4: big difference and that's what we want.
- 34:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:56Speaker 5: Westy for this club to have post-season success, what do
- 34:59Speaker 5: you think the biggest key or two will be to
- 35:02Speaker 5: not just be in the post-season, but to advance throughout it?
- 35:07Speaker 4: Just to do what we've been doing. I mean, we
- 35:09Speaker 4: obviously need, we need Maxie available. That's, it's my ideal last, last,
- 35:14Speaker 4: I think it was it last year we lost Wolf
- 35:15Speaker 4: to against New York. He was a big loss. And listen,
- 35:19Speaker 4: if you lose these caliber of players, it's, It's a
- 35:22Speaker 4: big boost to Phil, but we need players available. So
- 35:25Speaker 4: hopefully Max has only got one game and then he's
- 35:27Speaker 4: back for the playoffs.
- 35:28Speaker 3: All right.
- 35:28Speaker 2: We got to talk about this maxi thing, Westy, because
- 35:31Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure this out. First of all, he
- 35:33Speaker 2: should not probably with a with a insurmountable lead. Westy's
- 35:38Speaker 2: laughing in the background with an insurmountable lead. You probably
- 35:41Speaker 2: if you're jawing with somebody, you should probably just laugh
- 35:43Speaker 2: in his face and not grab your goodies, for lack
- 35:47Speaker 2: of a better term, to show him how angry you
- 35:49Speaker 2: are at him. That resulted in a red card. Is,
- 35:53Speaker 2: should that be a red card? Like Dean said, he
- 35:55Speaker 2: didn't think it should be a red card offense.
- 35:57Speaker 3: I swear. Can't that just be a yellow? What do
- 36:00Speaker 3: you think about that?
- 36:01Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know the rules. It's a lot, it's
- 36:04Speaker 4: a lot stricter out here. I think in England, you might,
- 36:06Speaker 4: you might get away with a, with a little bit,
- 36:08Speaker 4: but I don't know. It's listen, you can't, there's kids watching.
- 36:12Speaker 4: So you can't, you can't do that. Well, it'd be
- 36:15Speaker 4: better off punching him.
- 36:18Speaker 2: That's the thing is we can't put it up there
- 36:20Speaker 2: with actual violence.
- 36:22Speaker 3: That's a good point. This is deja vu, though.
- 36:25Speaker 5: It feels like every year, Westy, you mentioned it, but
- 36:28Speaker 5: every year at this point, you guys end up losing
- 36:30Speaker 5: somebody towards the end.
- 36:31Speaker 3: It's crazy.
- 36:33Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not me this time.
- 36:35Speaker 3: You know what? We actually have to celebrate this.
- 36:38Speaker 2: Westy, the three dudes that have gotten themselves red cards
- 36:43Speaker 2: late either at the end of the regular season or
- 36:45Speaker 2: in the playoffs have all not been you.
- 36:47Speaker 3: I give you credit.
- 36:50Speaker 4: Thank you, mate. I can keep my mouth shut.
- 36:52Speaker 2: Westy's like, yo, teach those lads to do that crap
- 36:55Speaker 2: during the regular season or the league's cup or something
- 36:58Speaker 2: like that. Oh, man. Oh, God.
- 37:01Speaker 3: So and Max here says that should be.
- 37:03Speaker 5: A blue card and not a red or yellow card.
- 37:05Speaker 3: All right. Hey, now.
- 37:08Speaker 2: So, Westy, I don't know how I segue from what Maxie. Well,
- 37:12Speaker 2: you brought the kids. Kids don't need to see that, Maxie.
- 37:15Speaker 2: And what were the kids doing here in Charlotte on
- 37:18Speaker 2: Saturday night?
- 37:18Speaker 3: They were trick or treating.
- 37:20Speaker 2: Do you get into Halloween and trick or treating with
- 37:23Speaker 2: your kids?
- 37:23Speaker 3: Do you do you find that fun?
- 37:26Speaker 4: Yeah, my wife's huge on Halloween, so that was another
- 37:29Speaker 4: reason why we come to America. It dropped off in England,
- 37:31Speaker 4: so I've got all my family over from the UK
- 37:35Speaker 4: as well, so they thought it was going to be
- 37:37Speaker 4: my last year.
- 37:41Speaker 3: We've got to talk about that in a second.
- 37:43Speaker 2: Before we get to the real important headline stuff, which
- 37:45Speaker 2: you just tried to lead us to, I need to ask,
- 37:48Speaker 2: I don't even know, do they trick-or-treat in England?
- 37:51Speaker 3: Do they get into Halloween? You said it's not the same.
- 37:55Speaker 4: No, it's nowhere near as big. I mean, a lot
- 37:58Speaker 4: of them are miserable, so they turn the lights off,
- 38:00Speaker 4: they close the curtains, they don't go to the house.
- 38:02Speaker 4: It's amazing out here. We did some trick-or-treating. We had
- 38:06Speaker 4: a party at the house on Saturday night, so I've
- 38:09Speaker 4: still got a bad head.
- 38:11Speaker 3: What's your go-to candy? What do you like the most?
- 38:15Speaker 4: I like the Sour Patch Kids. That's mine. Really?
- 38:17Speaker 3: You go sour? How about that?
- 38:19Speaker 2: Interesting.
- 38:20Speaker 3: Interesting.
- 38:21Speaker 2: Westy, are you like the fun guy everybody wants to
- 38:24Speaker 2: party with in the neighborhood?
- 38:25Speaker 3: Are you the fun dad?
- 38:27Speaker 4: I would like to think I am, but the kids
- 38:29Speaker 4: think I'm embarrassing.
- 38:32Speaker 3: Mine, too. And, Bone, there's no way I'm really embarrassing, right?
- 38:36Speaker 3: No way. No, that's not possible.
- 38:40Speaker 4: Oh, man.
- 38:40Speaker 3: All right, so you hit us.
- 38:43Speaker 2: You kind of went there in the press conference, and
- 38:46Speaker 2: now you kind of dropped a little hint there. So, Westy,
- 38:50Speaker 2: what is your status, are you thinking? It sounds like you...
- 38:54Speaker 2: thought this was going to be your last year with FC,
- 38:57Speaker 2: and now you're not sure. Where does that stand right now?
- 39:01Speaker 4: Yeah, who knows? Listen, I had mentioned it to certain
- 39:06Speaker 4: people at the start of the year. I think this
- 39:09Speaker 4: was going to be my last one. I wanted to
- 39:12Speaker 4: finish on a high. I wanted to finish with the
- 39:14Speaker 4: legs still going. But no, I think, listen, who knows?
- 39:16Speaker 4: There's some conversations to be had. Hopefully, it's if the
- 39:20Speaker 4: club want me. So it's not my decision. I've got
- 39:22Speaker 4: an option. So the wives give me the go-ahead. She's
- 39:28Speaker 4: the boss. She does all the contract talk. So hopefully
- 39:31Speaker 4: there's a few more games left in the legs.
- 39:33Speaker 3: Okay. How are you feeling physically? Are you good at
- 39:36Speaker 3: this point in the season?
- 39:39Speaker 4: Well, I feel great. But apart from... I've got a
- 39:42Speaker 4: slight issue with my calf. So we need to get
- 39:44Speaker 4: that sorted this week. And then, yeah, I think the
- 39:46Speaker 4: body feels good. I'm still... I'm still running around. So, yeah,
- 39:50Speaker 4: I feel good.
- 39:51Speaker 3: Yeah, you're running. When they track the running, the Sunday match,
- 39:54Speaker 3: you're up there in the top, you know?
- 39:57Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
- 39:58Speaker 3: You can still move. It might not be as quickly
- 40:00Speaker 3: as you moved in the pad, but you're moving.
- 40:03Speaker 5: I've never had that much speed anyway.
- 40:06Speaker 3: That's true. If I were your agent, that's what I
- 40:08Speaker 3: would say. He's not fast. He never was fast.
- 40:11Speaker 5: We have a text, Westy, from the voice of FC,
- 40:13Speaker 5: Willie P. Ask Westy about his Jack Sparrow costume.
- 40:19Speaker 4: He's rumbled me. He's rumbled me.
- 40:23Speaker 3: Is this a real thing?
- 40:25Speaker 4: Yeah, I dressed up as Captain Jack Sparrow on Saturday night.
- 40:28Speaker 3: Oh, that's good. God, you really are the fun dad, Westy.
- 40:32Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to run out. I got a bit
- 40:34Speaker 4: carried away.
- 40:37Speaker 2: That is amazing. That is so cool, man. Damn, I
- 40:40Speaker 2: wish I lived in Westie's neighborhood. I'd probably have to
- 40:43Speaker 2: make more money to live in Westie's neighborhood. Hey, if
- 40:46Speaker 2: he ends up retiring, buy his house.
- 40:48Speaker 3: Yeah, right. We're going to have to start about seven GoFundMes,
- 40:51Speaker 3: I have a feeling. Now, what do you.
- 40:54Speaker 2: I don't want to do this, but I'm going to,
- 40:56Speaker 2: because you just said, Hey, I'd like to be around.
- 40:58Speaker 2: I'd like the club to pick up the option and
- 41:00Speaker 2: have another year. But I'll just ask you anyway, like,
- 41:02Speaker 2: what are your thoughts about post-career like coaching? I could
- 41:08Speaker 2: definitely see that. Like what, what are you, have you.
- 41:10Speaker 3: Thought about that?
- 41:12Speaker 4: Yeah. I've, I've spoke to, I've spoke to Zard and there's,
- 41:16Speaker 4: they will try and find something. I would love to
- 41:17Speaker 4: work in the academy, I think.
- 41:19Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 41:20Speaker 4: Working in the, trying to develop players. I want something
- 41:23Speaker 4: back to the game. My club in England was gone,
- 41:26Speaker 4: produced in young talent. So, I think that's where I'd
- 41:29Speaker 4: like to go. I think I would like to go
- 41:31Speaker 4: and help out in that, in that department over in
- 41:33Speaker 4: the help the Academy and hopefully produce a few, a
- 41:36Speaker 4: few players that can go on to bigger and better things.
- 41:39Speaker 3: Yeah. That's awesome. That'd be cool.
- 41:41Speaker 4: Even Charlotte, man, you're not going to get rid of me. Okay.
- 41:43Speaker 3: Yeah, baby.
- 41:44Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 41:44Speaker 3: I like that. What we do on Wednesdays throughout the summer. Oh,
- 41:47Speaker 3: that is true.
- 41:48Speaker 2: And now you're going to have so much time where
- 41:49Speaker 2: you're like, well, no, we're not doing this. Westy wants
- 41:51Speaker 2: to play another year.
- 41:52Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
- 41:52Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. Sorry.
- 41:53Speaker 3: Why am I doing this to you? Westy? What am
- 41:54Speaker 3: I trying to do to you? All right, brother.
- 41:56Speaker 2: Well, Hey, first and foremost, go down there, kick messy
- 41:59Speaker 2: a little bit for me. I just give him a
- 42:01Speaker 2: couple of kicks. Pleasure. And get the W. I'm sure
- 42:07Speaker 2: they'd never give you a yellow card for kicking him.
- 42:11Speaker 2: You could probably breathe on him and get a red.
- 42:12Speaker 2: But anyway, I digress. Good luck in my— Good luck
- 42:19Speaker 2: on Saturday in Miami and in the playoffs.
- 42:21Speaker 3: We'll talk, man, before the playoffs, but appreciate you.
- 42:24Speaker 4: Thank you, fellas. Thank you.
- 42:25Speaker 5: All right, there you go. That is Ashley Westwood. Man,
- 42:27Speaker 5: he is a likable chap. As someone points out, the
- 42:30Speaker 5: new schedule, the sprint schedule. Oh, shoot, I should ask
- 42:33Speaker 5: him about that. I just thought of it now. The
- 42:35Speaker 5: new sprint schedule came out the other day for the first, what,
- 42:38Speaker 5: seven games of the season?
- 42:40Speaker 2: It's its own little season. It's a short little 14-game
- 42:42Speaker 2: season next year.
- 42:43Speaker 3: 14-game season, sorry.
- 42:44Speaker 2: And then they do that on February to May, and
- 42:46Speaker 2: then they start with the full season next in the
- 42:49Speaker 2: like august right because remember they're gonna mirror all the
- 42:51Speaker 2: other leagues and go yeah basically august through may but
- 42:55Speaker 2: yeah so they're doing like a little tiny season um
- 42:58Speaker 2: in the spring yeah next time we gotta ask them
- 43:00Speaker 2: about that
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