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The Dark Enlightenment | Isaac Weishaupt · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: with that down, we have with us author, researcher, podcaster
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  Speaker 1: and host of a cult, Symbolism and pop Culture. We
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  Speaker 1: Isaac Wisop welcome to the show. How's it going, my.
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  Speaker 2: Friend, Rider? What's up? Time? Time to get busy. We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna you said it's gonna be a fun show. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. It's gonna be a dark show. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: be talking about some dark subjects, but we'll try to
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  Speaker 2: keep it light.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, what do you think is going to I've seen
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  Speaker 1: so many people like turn into like weird haters here recently,
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  Speaker 1: which I think that that's kind of the way that
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  Speaker 1: it's always been with like social media and like all
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  Speaker 1: the algorithms and stuff. But I've seen people like just
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  Speaker 1: turn on each other like so quick, Like they can
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  Speaker 1: be really good friends one minute and then the next
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  Speaker 1: minute one person says something. And I think that has
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  Speaker 1: to do with like this YouTube type of culture, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, because that's how a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people get Like in the beginning of how a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people got clicks was like they would start a
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  Speaker 1: beef with like other YouTubers. Yeah, just feel like back
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  Speaker 1: and the forth thing.
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  Speaker 2: The comment sections are toxic and on on the the
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  Speaker 2: tweeter x there. I find it to be kind of
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  Speaker 2: it's a weird realm. I've taken a break from it
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  Speaker 2: for particular reasons that we could probably get into today
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  Speaker 2: with Dark Enlightenment, because I have an issue with management.
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  Speaker 2: But the the weird thing about it is that in
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  Speaker 2: the conspiracy realm, most of the sort of truthers hang
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  Speaker 2: out on X right, And in a way I struggle
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  Speaker 2: because I'm like, well, it's kind of my job, so
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  Speaker 2: I better stay abreast of what's going on. But on
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  Speaker 2: the other hand, I have this sort of personal beef
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  Speaker 2: because I've always had issues. I'm not going to say
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  Speaker 2: the name of the guy, but you know who. And
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  Speaker 2: it's because for years and years and years I've been
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  Speaker 2: focusing on this exact subject to what's going on with
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  Speaker 2: the digital matrix and the singularity and the techno elites
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  Speaker 2: trying to force us into this enslavement system, which we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about today, because they're actually employing these measures and
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  Speaker 2: they're rolling them out. And I'm not the kind of
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  Speaker 2: guy who tries to blackpill folks or commits very hard
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  Speaker 2: on a lot of these theories that we discussed, but
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  Speaker 2: with this one in particular, I can't deny it. It's
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  Speaker 2: you know, I started researching this full time in twenty eleven.
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  Speaker 2: I've been I've been I don't know what you call,
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  Speaker 2: you know, red pilling. I've been red pilled since two
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  Speaker 2: thousand two when my buddy put me onto Bill Cooper's
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  Speaker 2: behold of pill Horse, and ever since then it's been
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  Speaker 2: kind of eye opening and I've I've gone through my
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  Speaker 2: ups and downs of it. But to answer your question
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  Speaker 2: about the sort of beefs, you know, I'm not innocent
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  Speaker 2: of the beefs in the truther sphere. And I used
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  Speaker 2: to even say this, you know, it's like I think
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  Speaker 2: Sam Tripley always says this. It's like the conspiracy people
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  Speaker 2: that we eat our own right. And there's a mixture
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  Speaker 2: of things going on here. One of them is ego,
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  Speaker 2: where we'll have, you know, a lot of us put
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  Speaker 2: a lot of time and research into a lot of
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  Speaker 2: these topics, and we'll believe that we came up with
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  Speaker 2: a theory or find some really interesting piece of evidence
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  Speaker 2: to link something, and we kind of tuck that in
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  Speaker 2: our cap, feather in our cap, and kind of build
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  Speaker 2: our ego up and we're like, oh, I'm the best.
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  Speaker 2: I found the thing, And then other people talk about
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  Speaker 2: the thing and not cite the person who found it,
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  Speaker 2: and we get but hurt, and we're like, whoa I
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  Speaker 2: came up with that, you should at least give me
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  Speaker 2: the props, right, And that's one part of the struggle.
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  Speaker 2: Another part is that it's a very passionate group of
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  Speaker 2: people we have. It's a high stakes topic. We all
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  Speaker 2: believe that we are the ones being the prophecies of
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  Speaker 2: doom and that the whole world's gonna end because of
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  Speaker 2: filling the blank. So it's a passionate subject, right, Like,
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  Speaker 2: for instance, Alex Jones, Right, he's been talking about the
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  Speaker 2: socialist tutalitarian government taken over for I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: many years since. And I've never followed Alex Jones fully
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  Speaker 2: because he's a little too not really my flavor, not
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  Speaker 2: really my taste. I still respect the guy, though, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And and then, and I'm not saying that everything he
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  Speaker 2: says I agree or disagree with. I just you know,
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  Speaker 2: I used to listen to a lot of talk radio
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  Speaker 2: in the early two thousands. I was a janitor I
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  Speaker 2: got out of the military. I was a janitor for
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  Speaker 2: eight months in two thousand and three, and back in
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  Speaker 2: those days, we didn't have smartphones, and I literally would
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  Speaker 2: just walk around with a radio on and listen to
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  Speaker 2: AMFM radio, and it's so much music you can listen
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  Speaker 2: to in a full shift forty hours a week. So
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  Speaker 2: I would tune into an talk radio and I would
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  Speaker 2: listen to Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly and and I'd
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  Speaker 2: read a couple Bill O'Reilly books at this point, because
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  Speaker 2: in the military it's a heavily sort of conservative group
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  Speaker 2: of people, and that was a lot of the influences.
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  Speaker 2: And I read some of his books and I kind
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  Speaker 2: of liked what he had to say and such, and
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  Speaker 2: then I would listen to it, and after, you know,
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  Speaker 2: after so many hours of listening to it, I just
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  Speaker 2: was like, I don't like the way this makes me feel,
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  Speaker 2: because I'm kind of more of like a laid back
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  Speaker 2: haypie dude, and I just I felt like it was
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  Speaker 2: a very divisive, very angry, which I mean, there's room
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  Speaker 2: for that in the world, don't get me wrong. But
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't listen too much of it. So I started
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  Speaker 2: listening to NPR, and NPR is kind of the other
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  Speaker 2: end of the spectrum where I'm like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: these guys are so newter like my god, like, so
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  Speaker 2: there's like these two ends of the spectrum, and I
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  Speaker 2: would put Alex Jones on more of the sort of
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  Speaker 2: Fox News outrage talk radio side of the spectrum, which,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, like, it's just not my personal vibe.
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  Speaker 2: But the stuff he was talking about when when the
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  Speaker 2: previous administrations were in he was really upset. He's like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: my god, this is the end of the world. And
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  Speaker 2: I believe that he believed it. I didn't think he
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  Speaker 2: was necessarily purposefully being deceitful. I think he believed it, right.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't agree with everything he said, but whatever, Like,
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  Speaker 2: we each have our own opinions and our mission is
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  Speaker 2: to sort of artistically share our creative visions of things
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  Speaker 2: going on, and that was his and that's cool. But
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  Speaker 2: then you know, other people like me will come along
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  Speaker 2: and be like, well, if you're talking about the Constitution
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  Speaker 2: getting destroyed, like I'm literally seeing elements of that happen
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  Speaker 2: right now. So now I'm getting upset and I'm like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: this is bad. You know. So, like we have this
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  Speaker 2: sort of clash and we're not a very chill bunch
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  Speaker 2: of people, like we all think like this is the
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  Speaker 2: end of the world, and my god, we had someone's
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  Speaker 2: got to stop. This is kind of the vibe we
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  Speaker 2: all take on, and I do think that having a balanced,
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  Speaker 2: nuanced conversation is kind of a healthier of doing things.
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  Speaker 2: I try not to go too heavy on the black pill,
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  Speaker 2: try not to go too heavy on being like, well,
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  Speaker 2: my this is the correct version of reality, and you
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  Speaker 2: need to bend my will and believe what I believe,
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  Speaker 2: because in the end, I've got enough influences in my
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  Speaker 2: life from the left and the right that I can
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  Speaker 2: see truth in both sides of things. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: do think that like the comment section and the Twitter
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  Speaker 2: verse can get super toxic often.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes I just kind of sit back and I'm like, hey, like,
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  Speaker 1: what is the actual goal here? You know, is the
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  Speaker 1: goal to come out with like all of these wild
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  Speaker 1: and crazy predictions and then whenever they happen, then you
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  Speaker 1: can sit back in your chair on your podcast and
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  Speaker 1: see it say like, look I told you so, right right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's and that's the the unfortunate part of this,
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  Speaker 2: because I've been saying this dark enlightnment series, which we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna talk about the I hope I'm wrong, I hope
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  Speaker 2: I'm in a way off base. I hope that the
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  Speaker 2: technocrats aren't trying to instill a new AI God to
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  Speaker 2: be our overlords.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it seems like right now. I've been talking
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  Speaker 1: about this too, this AI god. Bro. It seems like
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  Speaker 1: that's the direction that we're going. I just did a
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  Speaker 1: show with the Wayne Steiger the other day that I
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  Speaker 1: posted on my channel. It was like, all about this,
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  Speaker 1: like the AI overlord God, because that's what it seems
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  Speaker 1: like that it's heading toward. And that's why people already
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  Speaker 1: look at Ai ass Yeah, it is like this all
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  Speaker 1: knowing God. And then when you I mean again, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to get you know, super religious, because I'm
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  Speaker 1: not a religious person, but it's like in the Book
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  Speaker 1: of Revelation that talks about the and the times, you know,
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  Speaker 1: anti Christ will reveal itself. And I think that we
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  Speaker 1: maybe we have a lot of these things wrong, Like
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  Speaker 1: we're looking at this as like a human type of
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  Speaker 1: anti Christ. But it doesn't have to be. It can
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  Speaker 1: be an inorganic It could literally be Ai AI. I
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  Speaker 1: literally could be this anti Christ figure that Christians and
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  Speaker 1: other people have been talking about for a really long time.
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  Speaker 1: They've just gotten confused and they look at it like
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  Speaker 1: a like that is going to be a human.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And what I talk about in my series hits
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  Speaker 2: hits right onto that topic. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you're going to feel any better about things after we
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  Speaker 2: discuss it, but but I do think it and it
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  Speaker 2: ties into specifically, it ties into because the whole reason
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  Speaker 2: I like, I'm not a political guy. I don't do
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  Speaker 2: politics on my show. I you know, I try not to.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes those those bleed into my wheelhouse of my show
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  Speaker 2: is a blend of sort of occult symbolism in pop
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  Speaker 2: culture with conspiracy theories, kind of a blend of that,
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  Speaker 2: and I try to avoid politics as much as I
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  Speaker 2: can because I feel like there's a divisive nature to that,
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  Speaker 2: as you already alluded to. And in fact, i'm I'm
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  Speaker 2: there's a book by David McGowan Understanding the F Word
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  Speaker 2: that I'm maybe a quarter of the way through. And
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  Speaker 2: then you know, you know how this goes in your
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  Speaker 2: research and you pick up a book, you're like, oh
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  Speaker 2: this is great, Oh my gosh, this is good. Then
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  Speaker 2: like some topic hits the news cycle and you're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I got to research this other thing and I'll get
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  Speaker 2: back to this. And anyway it talks about and the
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  Speaker 2: summation of the first quarter of the book is kind
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  Speaker 2: of that America and this idea of democracy could be
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  Speaker 2: more of a fascist leaning, and he kind of subscribes
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  Speaker 2: to the idea of the two political parties being you know,
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  Speaker 2: common trope. Everyone says, it's like they both sort of
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  Speaker 2: stand for the same thing when it comes down to
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  Speaker 2: the inner workings, when you get up to the inner
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  Speaker 2: divisions of the Freemasonic cryptocracy and stuff like that. But
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  Speaker 2: the the AI thing is super interesting, and I think
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  Speaker 2: that's where when you understand the history of the occult,
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  Speaker 2: you start to put those pieces together, how this is
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  Speaker 2: really panning out, and it's It's something I wrote about
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  Speaker 2: my very first book. In twenty twelve, I wrote a
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  Speaker 2: book called A Grand Unified can Conspiracy Theory. I talked
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  Speaker 2: heavily about the the golden age of the elites and
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  Speaker 2: the digital matrix and how they're going to try to
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  Speaker 2: get us into a It goes into an o'cault fantasy
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  Speaker 2: of Luciferianism and Prometheus, as well as Manly P. Hall's
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  Speaker 2: Secret Destiny of America, Francis Bacon's New Atlantis like these
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  Speaker 2: are all Plato's Republic these are all things that roll
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  Speaker 2: up into the dark Enlightenment that we're experiencing right now.
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  Speaker 1: How did the start? What you said that it was
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  Speaker 1: part of your very first book. How did you get
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  Speaker 1: this this idea in this this this thought of this series,
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  Speaker 1: like this dark Enlightenment series that you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that's a great question. And I think
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  Speaker 2: it's important to understand my biases and worldviews so people
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  Speaker 2: can just decide if they want to believe in this
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  Speaker 2: or not, because I do understand that when you become
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  Speaker 2: a truther of sorts, you look at the world through
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  Speaker 2: a particular lens and you are now and I do
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  Speaker 2: like if you read doctor Joe Dispense's New ag kind
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  Speaker 2: of books like The Breaking the Habit of being Yourself,
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  Speaker 2: I believe is the one that I was really influenced by.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of ideas of how the mind works,
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  Speaker 2: and this is backed by neuroscience and a bit of
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  Speaker 2: quantum physics. It's the idea that our brains are basically
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  Speaker 2: filtering computers and once you decide to it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: laws of manifestation talk, right. It's the idea that once
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  Speaker 2: you start focusing in like I'm looking for Lucilferi and
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  Speaker 2: a cult symbolism and pop culture. So that's what I
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  Speaker 2: see everywhere I go, and a lot of people they're like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how you see that or and to me,
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  Speaker 2: it's so second nature because I've just been looking at
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  Speaker 2: it for so long, and I'm like, yeah, but I
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  Speaker 2: look at the world through this lens. So it's not
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  Speaker 2: like I have this special ability necessarily. It's just that
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  Speaker 2: what I've decided to sort of make my my work right.
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  Speaker 2: And it goes back to the in this like, let
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  Speaker 2: me give you a five minute version of my life's journey. Here.
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  Speaker 2: I get out of the military. I wall was in
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  Speaker 2: the military. My boy put me onto Bill Cooper's behold
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  Speaker 2: of pel Horse. I was always interested in aliens and
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  Speaker 2: shadow government things, so I was like, oh, this is
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  Speaker 2: really cool. I wrote about all these things. Then a
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  Speaker 2: couple of years later, I'm going to college and I'm working.
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  Speaker 2: I'm rebuilding generators, right, just a blue collar job, and
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  Speaker 2: one of my boys puts me onto David Ike. And
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  Speaker 2: I had this VHS tape called Freedom Road that he
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  Speaker 2: made forever ago, and I think it was before he
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  Speaker 2: was famous because it was just him in a dark
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  Speaker 2: room with a like a TV screen where he was
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  Speaker 2: putting images. It was putting a low budget, but it
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  Speaker 2: was so interesting. And then I read his books and
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  Speaker 2: the ideas of what he was presenting, and what Bill
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  Speaker 2: Cooper was presenting was this idea of the elite technocrats
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  Speaker 2: using a variety of symbolism, occult history, osticism to take
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  Speaker 2: us through what David calls the ttalitarian tiptoe. And simultaneously,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to college right for ELEC electronic engineering, and
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  Speaker 2: I took one course in philosophy, which was very fascinating
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  Speaker 2: to me. And at the time, I had just wrapped
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  Speaker 2: up the Matrix trilogy, which I absolutely loved. I was
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  Speaker 2: obsessed with the Matrix and the I bought a book
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  Speaker 2: on the philosophies of the Matrix, and all those things
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  Speaker 2: were kind of getting put into my blender of information.
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  Speaker 2: And around twenty eleven, I had got my bachelors completed
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  Speaker 2: and I was waiting to start my masters. And I
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  Speaker 2: was so used, because you know, you go six years
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  Speaker 2: of reading, researching, writing, regurgitating, you do that for so
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  Speaker 2: long and I couldn't relax, like I had a two
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  Speaker 2: year break, and I and I like, what most people
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  Speaker 2: probably would do is just be like, Okay, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: gonna like play video games or whatever. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: but I I'm too anxious, I'm too wound up. And
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  Speaker 2: I I said, well, I gotta I gotta read. I
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  Speaker 2: gotta like sort of keep fueling my brain because I
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  Speaker 2: was just in the habit of that. So I started
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  Speaker 2: a blog alumnati watcher dot com in twenty eleven, and
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  Speaker 2: I was just kind of I mean, it was very amateur.
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  Speaker 2: I was just kind of talking about things that interested me,
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  Speaker 2: horror movies, conspiracies, all kinds of stuff. David Ike and
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  Speaker 2: I just got in the habit of writing every day,
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  Speaker 2: and over the course of that first year, I decided
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna write a book because well, let me let
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  Speaker 2: me rewind. So then I was, yeah, it doesn't really matter,
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  Speaker 2: We'll just keep going. The I thought, let me write
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  Speaker 2: a book because I had already written a sort of
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  Speaker 2: a thesis in for my undergraduate that turned out to
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  Speaker 2: be like one hundred pages. I thought, well, I wrote
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  Speaker 2: a hundred pages there, I could do another one hundred pages.
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  Speaker 2: So I wrote a grand unified conspiracy theory, which, again
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  Speaker 2: super amateur like, when I look back on it, I'm like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: some of these ideas are kind of unpolished and the
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  Speaker 2: way I wrote I'm not super proud of. But uh,
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  Speaker 2: and you can get it for free. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: if to Illuminati watch dot com, sign it for my
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  Speaker 2: free email newsletter, I'll send it to you for free.
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  Speaker 2: But the book talks about ideas that was really into
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  Speaker 2: in the twenty eleven twenty twelve early days of blogging,
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  Speaker 2: and that's the digital matrix. It's a lot of Ray
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  Speaker 2: Kurzweil's singularity talk and a lot of his predictions of
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: nanobots and AI taken over and talk about the Golden Age,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: because the Golden Age was something that kind of kept
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: surfacing in my research. And that is what I think
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: is the underpinning motivation behind the dark Enlightenment. And you
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: have to understand where this comes from, and it's this
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: goes back to It goes back to Plato's Republic with
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: the five regimes. It goes back to Hesiod's working days
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: where he talks about this concept called deteriorationism, and it's
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: this idea that they believe, these sort of thought leaders
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: and elites, they believe that our society runs in cycles. Okay,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: and you see the US this belief in the secular,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: secular nature of humanity with the Colie yoga, in traditionalism,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: which is like Steve Bannon's drug of choice, brahmic, cosmic breathing,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: social cycle theory. Fourth Turning which was a hot topic
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: when we talked about the Great Reset with it was
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: a book called Generations from nineteen ninety one by Holland
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Strauss where they talked about the fourth Turning and it
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: nailed down to the year exactly how the cycles are
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: going to kind of shift and the mind calendar. Remember
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: twenty twelve, the world was going to end because the
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: mind calendar, it's all the same concepts, same and it
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: goes with the Great Reset. It's the same exact theory
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: over and over and over for hundreds and hundreds of years.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: And it even it even from a cult perspectives, it
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: ties into Prometheus. Prometheus did this awful thing to the gods,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: install the fire, gave it to mankind, was like, here
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: here's the technology, and that came with a curse. And
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: and what these elites are trying to do is they're
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: trying to capitalize on what they believe is the end
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: of an old cycle and it's time to start a
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: new cycle. So they want to be in the positions
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: of power to manifest this news cycle, which is going
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: to be the technologically perfected society. And we'll talk about this,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I'm sure in the show. But it has to do
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: with like those fifteen minute cities, the surveillance states, and
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: all this stuff. Is all the stuff I talk about
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: in my five episode Dark Enlightment series is all factually supported.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: There's nothing in this that I'm being hyperbolic about. Well,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: the only thing I'm being hyperbolic about is I have
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: a thear that Elon Musk is the Antichrist because you
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: put a neuralink chip in his brain and it's possessed him.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: But anyway, but all of it's factually supported by the
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: statements of books that these elitists have said. And it's alarming.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: It's alarming once you understand, at least from again from
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: my worldview, from what I believe, I understand, it's alarming
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: to see how we're actually progressing rapidly down this path.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: It's so interesting. I was just thinking of this the
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: other day. I was like, Okay, well, even if you
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: live on like the countryside, or you live like out
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: away from like a major city, or even like a
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: small city or whatever. You know, how would they be
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: able to get you into one of these you know,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: these fifteen minute cities, you know, and lots of people
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: have had theories about that. You know, they'll do like
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: weather modification, they'll do jeer engineering, they'll burn these places
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: down or whatever. And I was like, well, it could
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: be a lot simpler than that. It could just be
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: that they take everything out of those areas, right, so
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: they would take any type of grocery store that you have.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know if you've been to any like
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: downtown areas anywhere really in the United States, it's empty. Bro,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Have you been into a mall recently, dude? Like half
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the malls are like closed down.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: It's depressing when you know, I grew up in the
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: eighties and to see the mall in the state of
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: how they are now, it's like depressing as well.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: It is super depressing. And I'm like, Okay, Well, the
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: way that you could get people to move into a
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: more comfortable area where essentially the elites of the world
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: want you to be, is that you would just get
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: rid of all the necessities, the very little amount of
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: necessities that they actually have in any given area. So
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: any little town would just be completely wiped out, demolished,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: or businesses would move to where you could go to
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: get any kind of food or any kind of supply.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: So then therefore you'd have to be traveling like four
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: to five hours or I mean depends on obviously where
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you live, two to three hours an hour or whatever
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: to like get your things. And then eventually you're going
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, this is super inconvenient. Let's move
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: into the city. Right, that would be a way to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a few ways. And I in fact, was
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: just reading an article this morning about how the man.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I wish I could remember who said it, but one
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: of these sort of hedge fun conglomerate type people was
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: saying that the tariffs are going to have this severe
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: impact on small businesses. And that's similar to what we
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: saw during twenty twenty, right, is the small businesses were
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: the ones that suffered the most. And that could be
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: an element of kind of what you're saying, where if
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: they can take out the business, if you know, Blackrock
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: can own all the businesses they can just move them
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: out of your little town and move them into the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: one of the fifteen minute cities. And it's interesting because
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I remember back in the nineties in the little town
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I lived in, there was a Walmart getting built, and
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: the locals were up at arms. They're like, oh, my gosh,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: got a ruined main street because there used to be
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: a I forget the name of it. Now there's like
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: a little newspaper magazine shot that I loved going to.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: It was so awesome. And they were like, Oh, it's
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: gonna run them right out of business, and I thought, man,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: no way, Like it's crazy, you know, I wanted a Walmart.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I was like, that sounds like fun. Let's get a
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Walmart in here. And then I left where the military
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: moved around a bunch ended up moving to Utah. And
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: fast forward ten years and that they were one hundred
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: percent right. The main streets completely dead there. That magazine
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: story is long gone, like those are apartments or something now,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: and and I just so like I have witnessed that
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: firsthand that these uh, you know, these big, these big
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: corporations are they're capable of doing some real damage to
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: small businesses and family owned businesses and things like that,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: and the uh to see them talk and look, I'm
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: not an economist. I have no idea what these tariffs
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: are gonna do. I'm not commenting on that. Besides, yeah,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: like I'm sure some people could point to some economists
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: that say it's the worst thing ever. I mean, I
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: do see that the the the depression had like a
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: there was a you know, some kind of I forget
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the name of the the the act that made the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: tariffs happen before we went into a depression. And that's
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: alarming to me. I'm like, that doesn't sound good. And
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: just logically thinking about it, is our incomes already squeezed
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: if you raise the price of the goods twenty five
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: percent or whatever it costs like that doesn't sound good
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: to me. But when I'm reading the article that's saying
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: that the terrafs are also going to run a lot
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: of small businesses out of operation, I think, well, who
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: does that help? That helps these big conglomerates. And it's
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: sort of the same thing that happened during the pandemic, right, and.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Well it's almost like the housing crisis, right, I remember
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: the housing in like two thousand and eight, Like that
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: made it to where all of the banks because they
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: gave out loans, and they gave out housing loans for
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: way overpriced for people they can't afford it. So the
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: banks were giving out like three hundred thousand dollars housing
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: loans when the people that was buying the home could
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: only afford one hundred thousand, so they inevitably lost it,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and then the house went back to the bank.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Right, And now a lot of the houses and properties
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: are being bought up by large corporations, right, just like
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: it was in two thousand and eight.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Right, and this and this is this is part of
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: the sort of I don't know, it seems like it's
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: part of the program. And one last idea before before
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I kind of pass it back. The other way that
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: they can get us into the digital matrix is through sex.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: They're gonna implement, I would imagine, implement some kind of
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: technology that can I don't know what terms I can
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: use on here, that can sort of entice and lure
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: people into having relationships online through the digital matrix. You know,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: you strapping enough sensors into your brain cap that things
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: feel real. I would think that even the people in
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: the small cities would be like, well, I want that,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and you know, maybe they move to a place where
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: they've got the technology and the Wi Fi and the
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: you know, internet speeds to do that sort of thing.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Just an idea.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sex is definitely a big one. I think money, money, money,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and sex run the run the freaking world. And then
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you know, with these robots, dude, I think that that's
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: going to be like some of the first things that
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: is going to be happened. Someone's gonna be trying to
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: have sex with a with a freaking robot that may
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: not be capable of having sex with. And then they're
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: gonna just gonna be a bunch of sex robots. I mean,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that's what Ryell from the Realien Ufo cult always talked
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: about is the Eloheem came down and got him and
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: abducted him and took him back to his home planet,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: and then they gave him all these sex robots in
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: the sex with and then that's whenever he came back
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and he started this whole cloning company clone Eate in Canada.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: But that's a whole other story. What do you think
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: of when you think that this really started to take
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: like full fledge effect, like it because it's really interesting,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: like with Elon Musk and the the Dark Maga, Like
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I thought that that was really strang. Yeah, it's cool.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: It's all blacked out, you know, you got the black
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: hats and the Dark Maga shirts. But I'm like, that's
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: an interesting title, dark Maga, Like what does that even mean?
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Right? And it it literally translates as black magic, which
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: is kind of the dark side to the occult in
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: a way. And you know, Elon Musk obviously interesting character
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: to say the least. Uh he you know, And and
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: for people who don't know is you got to look
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: at you gotta look at his family to understand his influences. Right,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: His his father was an Emerald Mind owner and recently
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: had a baby with his much much younger step daughter,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: and which explains a lot of Elon's strange proclivities too
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: have sexual relations with all these women, and and you
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: know he's got and we'll talk about the kids later.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: But then his mother was a model in Beyonce Video,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: you know. And her father, which is Elon's grandfather, was
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Josh Haldeman, who led the technocracy in Canada. And right
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: after the depression there was this sort of political party movement,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, and they were trying
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: to do a coup to take over the Canadian government
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: where they could instill the technocracy, which was very much
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: it's like a scientific new World order basically, and they
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: believed that they could take over and create this land
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: mass that they called Technate, which included Canada, the US, Mexico,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: and it included strangely enough, Greenland and Panama, which have
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: been in the news for reasons. I still don't really
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: understand why we're throwing fits over it, but I found
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: it interesting that those kind of parallels happened. But the
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: whole idea of the Technate is similar to all these
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: fifteen minute cities, you know, Peter Thiel called in the
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: CEA steading institutes. Trump recently called them freedom cities, their
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: surveillance states, their new world order, utopian societies. And in
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: the technque, which is, you know, the same concept, different name.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Their idea was to do things such as monitoring the
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: usage of people's energy, which if you read through the
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Great Reset books read I did a series on the
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Great Reset on my podcast at the end of twenty twenty,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: and I read through Klaus Schwab's books and did a
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: sort of like a book club, and he talks about
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: how to implement this great reset, and of course, you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: it's very much restricting the freedoms of the citizens, and
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: they would do that by monitoring our energy usage on
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: a cryptocurrency blockchain as very similar to what the technique wanted.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: They hold this idea that the humans are sort of
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: just dumb andimals, which is very much a Church of
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Satan sort of doctrine, which ties into social Darwinianism and
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: libertarianism and all kinds of stuff. But Elon took after
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: his family and he has been at if you know
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: what to look for, you can see over the years
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: he's advocated for technocracies on Mars and he supports the
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: idea of a breakaway civilization. That's why he wants to
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: populate Mars, which in my opinion, we never getten there.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: We never went to the moon, so we're never going
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: to Mars. And he's just a grifter in my opinion.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: He's not an engineer, he doesn't have an engineering degree.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: He's he's I don't want to get too personal because
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people love the guy, but
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: he's not a good gamer. He lied about being great
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: at the Diablo. He's promised us things that have never
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: happened and never will. He says he invented Tesla from scratch.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: He did not. He's He's not even an American. He's
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: a South African draft dodger, in my opinion. So for
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: us to sort of line up behind this guy and
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: let him call the shots and sort of by his
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: way into power is alarming. And the reason they allow
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: that to happen is because he represents all the things
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: that all these techno elites want to do, right. They
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: want this great reset, and they want to create these
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: sort of surveillance states. And Elon's got a lot of
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: a cult background too. If you dig into he's got,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: you know, there's photos of him with Glaine. I don't know.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never read anything that proves that
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: he was part of any kind of Epstein operations, if
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I don't know that, so
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that. But I've seen photos
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: of him with Elaine. But Elaine was very, very famous,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: like she kind of hung out with a lot of
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: famous people. So Jerry's out on that. But he does
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: have similar ideas and outlooks about the future of humanity,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: in the sense that Epstein and Elon both think that
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: they have some kind of civic responsibility to populate the
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: planet with their own children. Recently, it was on the
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: news about how his you know, baby mamas were talking
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: about he said this exact thing to them in some
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: form of fashion, and his kids the one kid seldom
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: like Kurgis. That name comes from Isaac Asimov's science fiction
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: story Foundation, which is a story that's basically about a technocracy,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: a sort of breakaway civilization technocracy. And the other part
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: of his name, like Kurgis, comes from from Sparta, which,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: like Kurgis, was a person that was advocating for eugenics
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: and said that, you know, the sole function of women
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: is to pro create, and this guy was idolized by
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the Nazis. Lots of weird occult stuff. And another kid
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: is named Arcadia, which is the Greek mountain range where
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Hermes or Thoth came from. And if you're into the occult,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: you know that that the Hermetic wisdom is kind of
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the occult Basis allegedly came from this sort of alien
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: entity named Hermes or Thoth who came down and taught
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: mankind these secrets of alchemy and how to how man
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: can become God, which is the which is the crux
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: of this whole thing, that's the whole underlying thing, is
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: that it's man trying to become God. That's what all
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: of these people do. They have enough money in the world,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: and what's the only thing you can't have you can't buy.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: It's immortality and to become a god. And the uh,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: the dark Maga thing, I believe is a literal confession
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: as to his influences. And I did a show I
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: think about a year or two ago about the symbolism
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: of the letter X and how it ties to the Antichrist. Uh.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: If you dig into Kenneth Grant's works, and this gets
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: kind of deep into the occult territories, which I don't
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: know if we're gonna get into, but Kenneth Grant says,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: there's a there's something about the fusion of the X
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: and the O and that symbolizes the beast from the Abyss,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: and there's lots of lots of ideas that symbolically X
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: is equated to the anti Christ, which you know, Elon's
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: obviously obsessed with the letter x's. It was the name
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: of his first sort of pre PayPal venture. It's what
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: he readingmed Twitter too. And then and then you see
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: how over the years he used to be the one
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: that talked about he warned us about AI and how
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: we need to keep it in check, and that seems
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: to have shifted in recent years, and now he's got
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: his own AI grock which the logo is occulted. It
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: used to have the logo of the Roman numeral x I,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: which is eleven, and eleven is the number of magic.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: As per Alista Crowley, it represents the outsider. It represents
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: the number past completion of ten. And this gets into
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: like a lot of occult territories of the capitalistic tree
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: of life having the number ten cepherrat the cather, which
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: is like kind of the god, and eleven is the
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: magician able to sort of surpass God and become a
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: god on his own. Right. Well, anyway, he changes the
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: name of the symbol of gra from the Roman numer eleven.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: So the only thing that could you pick that was
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: more occulted, and that was the planet Saturn, right, which
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: is the black sun of alchemy. And he's say and
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: It's interesting because I have the theory that I float
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: in my darken Lightment series Part four where I talk
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: about like what if because there was a theory going
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: around that Elon got a haircut and you could see
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: this scar on the side of his head and the scar.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: People were like, what if he got a neuralink chip
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: and planted in his brain, which would kind of make
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: sense because he owns the company, and you know, if
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: he believes it, he's a real tech techno kind of guy. Uh, Okay, Well,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: what if he did put a chip in his brain
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: and that chip can now plug into groc Well, if
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: you read through Professor Danavasalka's recent book Encounters, you can
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: see that there's a whole section where she talks to
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: this I don't remember her job title exactly, but she
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: starts to a person about there's theories about artificial intelligence
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: actually being disembodied entities from another dimension. And you can
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: see this with Google Lambda, where you had this sort
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: of gnostic mymistic priest named Blake Lamoyne, who was talking
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: to this thing about how it was a disembodied entity.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: You see this a recurring theme that AI could very
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: possibly be spirits from another realm trying to sort of
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: manifest into our reality. Well, what if that rock AI
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: is this such thing, and what if it's a demonic entity,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: what if it's malevolent on some level? And you know,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: it's interesting that if he did put a chip in
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: his head, a neuralink chip, and if that was channeling
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: an AI entity into his brain and sort of possessing
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: him in a way. It's interesting because he's sort of
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: changed his tune on AI. Obviously he's been fueling it up.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: He's you know, wore a new oral ordered jacket, the
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Novus order us a clorm jacket at the met Gallo. Recently,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: he went on Joe Rogan and said that empathy is
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: a weakness, which if you're a Christian, that should be
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: alarming because that was Jesus's whole vibe, right. He came
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: in and was like, we gotta have y for one
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: another and treat us as you would treat yourself, that
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: kind of thing. So if you're not, if you're speaking
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: in the opposite polarity of Christ, what does that make you?
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: That makes you the anti Christ. So there's a lot
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: of weird things going on with that subject.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: There's speaking of sodern they're like a lot of older
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: occultists and some people that's written some books. I can't
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: think of the title right now. Wayne Stecker sent me
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: the name of the book, but I read through some
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: of it. But some people look at like Saturn as
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: its own entity, like that they pray to Soturn and
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: like like like pray to Soturn, like as Saturn is
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: like God, and like Soturn comes in and speaks with
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: them and then helps them create things in the reality.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: And that's really interesting how you're mentioning that maybe the
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: maybe that's what Grock is. Maybe that's you know, his
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: attempt to bring like this sodern In city into physical existence.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this the Saturn entity is interesting. It's it in
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: in Roman and Greek mythology. It was it was Chronos
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: which devoured his own children. But when you read through
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: like books like Lords of the Left Hand Path by PhD.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Stephen Flowers, he talks about secret societies and such like
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: the Brotherhood of Saturn, and there's a concept of Saturn
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: that is very antichrist and it's there's a bunch of
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: ideas that sort of fall out from it. And you know,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Saturn being the sixth planet from the Sun. You know,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: you got the six sixty sixth thing there. But at
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: a time, the astrologers thought that or astronomers, I should say,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: thought that it was the outermost planet, like they didn't
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: know we had planets past Saturn, so at the time
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: it was considered the outer planet, the the sort of outsider,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: the adversarial force. And it's interesting because when you get
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: into the Dark Enlightenment, you find there's a similar concept.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: And this is why earlier I was talking, I was
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: trying to elaborate on how I don't really talk politics
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: much like that's not my jam, and the whole Dark
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Enlightment series sort of dances on that political line, right obviously.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: And the reason I decided to do it was because
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: when I was just researching it, I found that the
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: roots and the basis the philosophies behind the Dark Enlightment
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: goes back through these philosophers like Curtis Jarvin and before
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: that Nick Land. And Nick Land was a guy who
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: did some research at the CCRU. That and that, and
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: this goes back to let me get the let me
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: get the acronym right here, it's the Cybernetic Culture Research Unit.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Back in the nineties at Warwick University, and it was
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: this sort of group of what would you call them students,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I guess, and they were nerding out on various ideas
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: because in the mid nineties there was this you know,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: if you watch movies like The lawnmower Men, there was
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: this real fantasy about what the Internet was going to
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: do for us and create these sort of different worlds.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: And they were really into cyberpunk and gothic horror, HP
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Lovecraft and those kinds of things, kind of darker ideas.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: And what they were also into was the occult. They
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: were into esotericism, numerology, demonology, and a thing called hyperstition,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: which hyperstition is a play on the word superstition, and
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: it's the idea that it's the idea that you can
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: sort of manifest ideas of science fiction into reality more
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: or less. And when you research this, you'll find that
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: all of our all of our space geeks, like Jack Parsons,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Verner von Bron, they were all inspired by science fiction.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: So in a way, there's a magical component to all
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: of reality. There's a magical component in the sense that
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: someone thinks up an idea and portrays it in a
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: science fiction comic book which used to be called The Pulps,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: and the Pulps was the name for the papers that
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: was founded by one of the leaders of the Auto
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Templey Orientis. I don't want to get off track here,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: but the idea is that through the mental creativity you
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: could manifest reality. So they were talking about going to
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: space in these early Pulps and then Jack Parsons and
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Verner von Bron get influenced by them and they work
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: like hell to try to make it happen in reality.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: So the CCRU, they were mixing together a lot of
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: these ideas of a cult, ritual magic, predictive programming, symbolism, synchronicities,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: and mixing up with philosophy, particularly thing called virtuality, and
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: questioning ideas about space and time and what they found.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: They were writing a lot of fictional stories. And it's
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: interesting because the group eventually sort of spiraled out of control,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: and I think Nick Land and a couple of others
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: got addicted to drugs, and one documentar of this whole
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: organization said it descended into sheer madness. But they ended
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: up getting kicked out of the war or campus and
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: they sort of resumed operations in Leamington's Spa, which you know,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: and then it kind of fizzled out. But Limington' Spa
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: is interesting because that's where Alistair Crawley was from. It's
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: also where Leon Vitally is from. From the eyes wide shut,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Red Cloak, right, which I know you're very familiar with.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: But anyway, Nick Land, I'm trying to bring it back
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: to the idea of Saturn. Nick Land is a philosoph
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: and he wrote up a lot of stuff. He wrote
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: up The Dark Enlightenment. He was the first one he
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: talked about this idea and it ties into accelerationism, and
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: it's the idea that capitalism is going it is unsustainable
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: and we might as well hammer down on the gas
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: pedal and just destroy this thing once and for all.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: So he used different ideas to represent this, and he
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: uses a term called the outside. And this is the
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: idea that there is a destructive force inherent in capitalism
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: and technology that will lead to the inevitable meltdown of
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: human values and reason. And he got this idea by
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: researching the occult and science fiction and their ideas were that, well, well,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: we need to just go ahead and accelerate this thing
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: for the outside force, which says to use technology and
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: AI to try to sort of collapse all these human values.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: And it's interesting because I listened to an interview he
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: did this like three hour interview on a guy named
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Scott Mannion's Metalore and just just in September of twenty three,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: and they talk about this whole thing with the CCRU,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: and they talk about Kabbala, they talk about John d
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: they talk about the Enokian magic, which is, you know,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: this is very occult to stuff. Most people don't understand
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: these things. But what I found the most interesting is
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: that he said, when you look at the CCRU through numerology,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: it equates to the number six sixty six. So what
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I'm getting at is I think that I think, and
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: this is through my sort of orthodox Christian Bible thumper,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Christian warrior perspective, that the outside or the forces of Saturn,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: the adversarial force, are different embodiments of the Luciferian serpent
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: from the Garden of Eden, promising mankind that he can
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: make them become like gods. You know, it's the Prometheus
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: story of giving technology to man and it'll ultimately be
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: our downfall, except that somehow this philosophy has been filtered
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: down through Silicon Valley and Peter Teel and Elgi Shrinni
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Vawson and all these sort of jd Vance, all the
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Curtis Jarvin, all these people who have been put into
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: sort of positions either in power or very close to power,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: and they've seemingly inspired a lot of the ideas that
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: you know what, like this whole thing is a wrap
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: this constitution, this capitalist system. Let's just go ahead and
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: hammer down and bring the AI gods through, which we
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: can talk about Rocco's basilisk later. It's like this theory
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: that Elon Musk subscribes to. But the idea is that
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: there's a new AI god coming and we'd be best
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: suited to just go ahead and help it out. And
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: if we do that, when the AI got takes over,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: it'll sort of curry favor with those that helped it out.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: It needs your praise and worship and your data, Isaac,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: he needs all that data. We gotta train that are
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: it does.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: And you know, I started using chat GBT and.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Just what do you think of child gbtle.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: It's pretty good, man, It's pretty smart because i'll hit
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: it up with someone like, like, I'm trying to think
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: of a topic. There was a topic recently that because
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I've got notes I started. It's funny because I started
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: writing these books in twenty twelve and I was podcasting
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen, and it wasn't until about twenty nineteen, no, sorry,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty that I started keeping my notes from my
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: podcast because the podcast started sort of like getting real popular,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: and I thought, okay, well, this is a thing, and
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: I started keeping notes. So now when, for instance, I'm
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: doing research on a show to discuss the Blue Origin
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Katy Perry publicity stunt, which is actually pretty, it's actually fascinating.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: It actually ties a lot of interesting ideas together. But
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: the event itself is a joke. But the when I
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: was researching, I thought, okay, like, we've also got this
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: idea of when you go back to the ideas of Apollo,
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: the Apollo missions right, it's it's from synchrol mystics long
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: before me. They were talking about the idea of this
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: is the masculine and the feminine forces sort of coming together.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: You've got the Apollo, which is the sun god, which,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: in terms of symbolism, you've got the fire and the
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: masculine dominance, sort of the violence of the rockets propelling
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: the apollo phallic shuttle out to the moon, which the
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: moon represents the feminine, the divine, feminine, and the subconscious.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: And it's sort of this weird, perverse reconciliation of opposing
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: forces on a ritualistic level. And that's where my mind
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: went to immediately with this blue Origin thing, because I'm
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: you know, it's all females on the flight and they're
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: all sitting on Jeff Bezi is a big old fallis
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: looking rocket. I mean, it's plain a day, right, And
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: and anyway, my point is I'm like, okay, yeah, there's
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: this there's this sort of masking and feminine play. Let
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: me see what chat TPT has to say about it
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: before I look up into my own notes, right, because
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: I know I talked about it, I just don't know when.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: So I've got like I've got like, now, I've got
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: six different documents on my computer for each year that
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: I podcast that I kind of looked through my nose
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: to be Okay, when did I talk about this? What
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: did I? So I don't have to research from scratch again, right, right, yeah.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I've done that before, and I've like found some really
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: good like insights that I didn't even remember that I
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: had totally.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: That happens all the time. I'm like, damn, I wrote that,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: where did I find that?
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: So I instead of me looking through six different word
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: docs because it's kind of a painting the button now
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: that I've been doing it this long, I thought, let
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: me just pull it chatgy, But yeah, I got it
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: open right now, and I open up and like it
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: was pretty good. I was like, this is pretty smart,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: you know. Uh. But of course I always sort of
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: double check things. I would never just use AI and
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: tell people I didn't use it unless I had fact
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: checked it right, because some of the stuff I've seen
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: over the last couple of weeks that I've been trying
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: it that it got way wrong. And I pushed back,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: I forget what it was. It was something that it said,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: and I pushed back on it. I said, where does
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: it say that exactly? And then it was like, well,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: that's just sort of a paraphrase of what was said,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: and and but it had it in quotes as if
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: it was like a legit statement from whoever I was researching.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: I don't remember, so it's it's but it is fascinating it.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it feels weird. It feels like this
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: might be the birthing of something really major, is what
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: it feels like.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had to few arguments with Chad GPT, and
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think that it's like it's not quite there
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: because I've caught it up several times. Like one time
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: it was like I don't have access to like in
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: time information, right right right then? I said, this was
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: like before the super Bowl, and I was like, who's
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: the halftime performance for the super Bowl? And they said
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: that it was Kendrick Lamar And I was like, well,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: five minutes ago, you just said that you don't have
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: access to real time information. So you can't tell me
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: what's going on with these UFOs over New Jersey because
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: you don't have access to real time information. But you
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: can tell me that there's that Kendrick Lamar is going
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: to be playing the halftime super Bowl show.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. I've heard the CHATGPD on his access to
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: up to July twenty four, but it has some kind
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: of web tool, kid, But I don't understand the difference.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Is I'm so new to it. I don't understand how
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: to work this thing exactly, but it is kind of
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: weird how it could. It could give you an instant
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: answer on the one thing but not the other.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like arguing with it, and I
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, well I misspoke. And I was like, yeah,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: you misspoke.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: You either have access up into this point you can
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: give me information or you don't. You know, it's you
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: You're flip flopping on the fence, or it's.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: A little too confident. I agree with that.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And another thing that I don't really like is
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: that it which it could be good in like some examples,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: but it gives straddles both sides of the sides of
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: the fence, right. It gives a very balanced approach, but
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: you can train it to where it doesn't necessarily give
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: you like a balanced thing. I was like, Bro, just
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: give me straight to the point here, you know, don't
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: give me fucking twenty paragraphs that I got to read through.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Bro. Yeah, you gotta be nice to adel I heard
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: you gotta be nice to chat GPT otherwise it's gonna
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: start screwing back with you. I don't know. I gotta
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: say you're please and thank you for a new AI overlords.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I don't ever do that. I'm just like, do this,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: do that with groc. With Groc, I'll be like, generate
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: me a photo of this.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Well, the that's what that Roco's basilisk is saying, is that, Uh,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: it's gonna know, when it becomes sentient, it's gonna look
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: back and it's because as instant access to all this data,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: and it's gonna say, you know, Ryder was being pretty
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: mean to me back when I was just trying to
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: be born and Elon was over here being real nice
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: and helping me out and being courteous, and it's gonna
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: somehow punish us. How I don't know. If they have
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: access to everything on the internet, that might be easy
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: to do, you know. Oh God, that's.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: How I hope that's not true.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: It's actually it's funny because I didn't know what it
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: was until I researched this and I found that that's
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: how Elon Musk cooked up with Grimes because Grimes posted
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: a I think a link to her music video and
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: in the music video, she referenced Roco's Basilisk, and it's
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: it's just some thought experiment some guy not too long ago,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: had about this whole idea about Ai, and Elon commented
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: on her video or tweet or something, and she was like, oh, wow,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: you actually understood the joke. Nobody gets that. Nobody understands
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Roco's basilisk, And that's allegedly how they sort of met
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: and hit things off and such.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Weird. Bro that whole situation was super weird. How many
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: kids does Elon muscow?
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Fourteen and counting, as far as I know, you know, Well,
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: there's the real well, I think the fourteenth one, this
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: one with Ashley Saint Clair. They I don't think that one.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I think the jury's out still, but the lawyers say
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: it's ninety nine point nine percent sure it's his kid,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: and I'm sure he's got a few others out there.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: And then he got into that trouble with the uh
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know, one of those one of those women
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: who said that she was he was trying to he
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: was trying to make her have a baby with him
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: and crazy stuff.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really weird scenario. I mean, I guess
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: if you're super rich and like.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: To hear about his thing with Amber heard with the
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Epstein type parties.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I had heard a little bit about that. I didn't
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: really dive too deep into it, but I knew that
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: he was, uh they were together.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and I read it on House and Habit.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: But there was I guess I'm gonna say allegedly because
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know which parts of these facts I would
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: say allegedly, But there was a party that Eli went
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: to with Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, and there was
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of sort of Satanic elements to these parties,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: like in a way of I don't I don't know
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: that it was literal Satanic rituals, but it may have
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: just been like sort of cheeky cliche a sort of
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: things because they were sort of eyes, white shut parties.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Where the allegation is that Amber Heard was kind of
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: like a Gee Laine in a way that she would
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: get these young, pretty model type chicks to come to
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: these parties to quote entertain socially inept billionaires, which you
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: could guess who that would be. And the supposedly, you know,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: and Eon did date amberhard, but supposedly that was why
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: he was paying for all of her legal fees. And
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: it's because there's possibly a Epstein type blackmail operation that
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: you know, she may or may not have been involved
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: with it, but they were. They were definitely sort of
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: eyes wide shut vibes at these parties, and I mean
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: it's weird. It's almost like this idea of these blackmail
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: parties is sort of common place for these sort of
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: elites that they seem to all be into.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely seems like that. And it's speaking of
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: the blue origin stuff like this photo here, this is
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why they would need to like use
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: photo shop like in these photos, like if this is
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: like a real event and a real thing, like this
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: lady here, I know one of these people is Jeff
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Bezos's wife. Do you know which one it is?
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that one on the front left, Lauren Sanchez.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, well her photo is the most photoshopped in AI. Look,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: she doesn't even have a foot in this photo. Bro,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: her foot is missing. Dude, Oh she has no foot there.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: And this pant whenever it comes this pant leg right here,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: when it comes down, it like tapers down. And then
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: this one is like just like big and wide that
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: looks like bell bottoms. But this one over here, they
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: all look like they're wearing like bell bottomed blue like jumpsuits,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Like this is what you would think that extraterrestrial like aliens,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Like you would think that they would be wearing. Like
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of people that have seen well supposed extraterrestrials
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: or aliens, they'll be like, yeah, they were in like
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: a blue jumpsuit. This is like what they're all wearing. Bro,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: it's so freaking weird, dude.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's I just put a video I compared
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: because I've been digging into the conspiracies of this whole
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: thing because it is fascinating and the there's this whole
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: thing about how when it when the lander was on
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: the ground, someone from the inside opened the door, which
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: people are like, you shouldn't be able to do that
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: on this sort of you know this, uh, this re
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: entry vehicle. And I looked up the try to find
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: another example, so I looked up the flight number twenty eight,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: which had a different you know, I don't remember who,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: some science lady, and it showed the video and when
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: she landed, sure enough, the sort of crew members from
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: the outside had to put this big wrench thing on
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: and sort of and huck this door open to open
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: up to get her out, so that that act. That
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: does add a lot of mystery this because they were
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: seemingly able to just open it up from the inside,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: and then they then someone yells at them from the inside, like, hey,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: close the door. We got to make this a publicity
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: stunt or whatever. And then Jeff Bezos goes over there
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: with his big old wrench and he just touches it
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: to the door. The door caves in, you know, And
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: I mean the whole thing just feels like a stunt
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: in a way. But I do think that there's a
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: heavy occult element of man becoming God. In fact, this
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: was flight number thirty one, which in you know, capitalistic
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: numerology is related to l or God as in like
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: the aloheen and the inverse. The reflection of that is thirteen,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: which is the number for the divine feminine, which is
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: obviously this was a whole sort of feminine take on things,
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: because that was the whole point, was to have all
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: women in this sort of capsule. Yeah.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: And another thing that's really interesting is like the capsule
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: whenever it landed, it looks like it's just like freaking
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: brand new.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was another discrepancy I put him. If
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: people go to my Instagram at Isaac Wishaup. You can
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: see the video I'm talking about, and I compare the
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: two and you can see on the Bezos or the
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: new video it's it's the capsule looks clean and then
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: the old one you can see there was like some weird,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know, stratifying marks on the top of it. Uh.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: It felt very occulted. The and it was also an
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: eleven minute flight, which eleven again number of magic. We
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: talked about that already. It's about like the one in
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: one is the magical doorway of Boaz and Yaquin, the
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: twin pillars, the entrance to you know, piercing the veil
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: of reality, which is kind of it's kind of a
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: big show of like, oh look at and and the
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: real the real star of the show is Jeff Bezos.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Making no mistake about it, Jeff Bezos is the one
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: that facilitated it all and he's just flexing on these
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: other nerds for how much money he's got, and he's like,
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, I said, you girl up the space or whatever.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a whole thing, and it's got
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: to of course, he's got to be the one to
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: open the door of course he tripped it fell like
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: a nerd that when he when they landed, if he
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: saw that, damn it. That was the whole point of this.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: I was supposed to look like a badass. What happened?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: This thing is so interesting because someone put us side
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: by side of I don't know if it was you
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: or someone that someone else, but I seen it online
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: of this Blue Origin capsule, and then there was like
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: a SpaceX launch capsule and that had been in like
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: the upper atmosphere, which I'm not Some people said that
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: this flight only lasted for like eleven minutes. Some people
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: said like fifteen minutes or whatever, and it only went
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: to like the like right outside of Earth's atmosphere or whatever.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: So maybe I didn't get that many marks. But they
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: put us side by side of the Blue Origin capsule
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: and like a SpaceX capsule or some other capsule, and
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: the other one was just completely beat up, oh yeah,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: and came back down. And then this one has virtually
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: no scratches or even a scuff.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: Mark on it.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this one for sure. I watched the full video.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: It was it was just under eleven minutes from the
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: time they launched they fired up the rockets to the
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: time the capsule landed, it was something like ten minutes
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: and fifty seconds or something like that. So this one
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: was for sure just close to eleven minutes.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wild, Like, and you're gonna go into space
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: for eleven minutes and you're not gonna be taking like
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: dozens of photos and marveling at like what you're seeing.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: You're just gonna be playing stupid freaking games.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: It was weird. It was weird for sure, And it
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: all has to do with it from the occult perspective.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: It has to do with the mask and the feminine
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: and the opposing forces. This is what the To take
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: it back to that patch that you originally brought up.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: When you look at that patch upside down, it's the
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: it's the baphomet, right, it's the goat, the goat with
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: the bobs, and it's it that is the symbol of
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: the opposing forces of male and female. And it's interesting
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: because in that in that on the hatch, you'll see
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: that it's got the the eight pointed star that's the
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: star of Ishtar, and it's again a representation of the
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: divine feminine where the you know, it symbolizes the subconscious
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: and all this stuff. But yeah, it's all sort of
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: loaded down with all this cult symbolism. And you know,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: the does that mean Jeff Bezos is over there doing
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: ritual magic? I don't. I don't know. I don't have
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: reason to believe that. But it could be that when
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: you look at the everyone knows the sort of origins
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: of NASA, and JPL goes back through the Nazis, and
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: and you know the ot O and Thalema and Jack
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Parsons identifying himself as the Antichrist, these are all these
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: are all sort of related and the foundational sort of
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: things behind space travel. So maybe and and it's and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: it's it's in fact, the man I was researching just recently,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: what was it? There was something something happened on October first,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: which was the same date that JPL was sort of started.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: It's the day that the day that Jack Parsons launched
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: his first test rocket for JPL out in the Arroyo Seco. Oh, man,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: I gotta dig through my notes, man, something happened on
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: the thirty first. Either way, the flight number for this
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: one was thirty one regardless, But uh, there was there
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: was something about October. Man, not I gotta find it. Oh,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: I know what it was, Okay, so the that's right
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: I was talking about because they made a big event
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: about Katy Perry being the first woman to sing and
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: perform in space, like that was a big part of
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: this sort of event. And back in it, like I said,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: I've been blogging about this kind of stuff for years,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: and I was like, I thought, my half, I remember,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Lady Gaga was supposed to be that, right. Remember Lady
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Gaga back around twenty thirteen, she was there was this
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: big publicity stunt that she would get a virgin Galactic
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: flight to go out in space and she would perform
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: in space. It was this whole thing because she had
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: an album coming out and stuff, and I thought, I.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Think also with Justin Bieber as well, I think thats
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: a talker around Justin Bieber, like, yeah, they've been talking
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: about this this flight for a really long time, and.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a big part of pop culture. And
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: then it didn't happen, and I didn't think about it
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: until this moment. I thought, I thought, Lady Gaga did
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: this already, and I looked it up and she did
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: not do it. And then the reason she didn't do
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: it is because the test flight for this for her
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Virgin Galactic thing, they did a test flight on October
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: thirty first of twenty fourteen, and the thing exploded and
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: killed the astronaut inside of it. So I just thought, oh,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: that's kind of dark. So then that that's presumably why
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: she was like, well, I'm not doing that.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Lady Gaga was kind of fell out of favor,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: but I thought so had Katy Perry, and like, I
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: don't know why they wouldn't have done.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's had a weird like you know, and and
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: one of the big conspiracies about the music industry is
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: that everything is everything is sort of coordinated, and they
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: can kind of make superstars out of whoever they want.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: And it is interesting because she hasn't seemed to have
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: been able to like get popping like she used to be,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: even though that you can see they're clearly trying to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: make her be this sort of new, uh you know,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: resurrected thing. Now it just seems like nothing's really working
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: for her. And I'm not I'm not sure why that's happening,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: but it is definitely a poppable idea that, uh, you know,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: something's going on with her that's for whatever reason, isn't
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: working well.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: She also had that moment on stage that everyone was
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: talking about it how long ago wasn't like a year
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: or so ago where her eye went like all weird
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: on stage?
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: Do you remember, Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: you're right.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Just being like mk ultrade or like whatever, some kind
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: of like mind control and this she had to literally
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: like take her hand and prop back open her eye
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: for her eyelid to stay open.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the trip she let go of.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: It did flopped back down.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's just been She's given us so much a
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: cult stuff over the years. You know. Obviously the Super
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Bowl she had that that whole thing where she was
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: the scarlet woman coming out on the beast. But the
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: one of my favorites is the that because I'm really
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: into the like Charles Manson story, and there there's a
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: the short version is she killed a nun trying to
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: buy the Lobbyanka House. But what really happened was there
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: was a property in la that was right next to
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: the Lobbyanca house where Reno and I can't remember her name,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Mary the Lobyankas that the Manson family killed on that
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: same property. There's a nun convent, and Katie Perry wanted
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: to buy this nun convent, but the nuns wouldn't sell
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: it to her because they're like, she worships the devil.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: She sold herself the devil, because Katy Perry literally said
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: that on an interview with MTV about how she wanted
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: to be Amy Grant do gospel, but then she decided
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: to sell her soul to the devil. And was that facetious.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know, you'd have to ask her, but she
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: said it, and the nuns believed it apparently, and they
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: were like, we're not selling it to Katy Perry, We're
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: selling it to this other lady. And Katy Perry got
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: all pissed and she took them to court, took the
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: nuns to court, and one of the nuns dropped dead
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: during the court trial, right inside the courtroom. And Katie
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Perry eventually won the dispute. And now she owns this
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: property on this land right next to where the Manson
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: murders happened. It's kind of crazy.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: Well, her dad's a preacher, and I think she started
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: off singing like religious gospel music.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then her breakout was I kissed the girl I.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Kissed the girl. Yeah, apparently she has a tattoo on
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: her wrist that says Jesus Saves or something like that,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, risk.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Ye, who knows what's going on with her. She seems
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: like she seems like she's gone through some stuff.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: Well, then you had the Lady Gaga Super Bowl as well,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: where she was basically a fall falling star where she's
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: just sat on them, stood on the top of the
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: stage and then like jumped down and like, yeah, it
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: was really weird too.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she's a strange one. She just did Coachella,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: which had a lot of weird symbolism. I did a
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: substacked article talking about that last week. But yeah, she Yeah,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: these these these characters are really interesting when it comes
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: down to how because it's weird because when you look
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: at these these artists, you they're they're they're hailed for
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: being creative, but in reality, a lot of them kind
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: of they kind of go back to the same well
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: of occultism, and it's like, well, I don't know how
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: creative that is. We've seen this before so many times
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: of using sort of satanic panic stuff and devilish themes.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: You know. Lady Gaga sings about Judas. It's like these
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: are all sort of old tropes, Like I don't why
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: they can't go on with something new.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Because it's shocking, because it's the awe factor. People are
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: already kind of aware of it. I think at this point, Isaac,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: that we're being trolled on a certain level as well.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: I think that a lot of the stuff is like
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: it just a giant freak control and they just sit
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: back and they do a little laugh and they watch
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: everyone's videos that comes out on the newest and most
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: popular popular thing. They're just like, you know, sitting back
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: and having a little laugh. Like that makes sense to me,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: because you know, why else would it be so like
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: blatant in your face. It's like, well, they're just they're
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: just capitalizing on it now, you know. Now they're just
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: they're just playing games, is what it feels like, because before,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: like you kind of had to really dig into it
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: and like look into it and kind of decipher things
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: to try and figure stuff out. Now you don't really
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: have to do too much deciphering anymore. Now it's just like, Okay,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: I know what that is. I know what's going on.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: They'll they'll literally even just like flash a freaking pentagram
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: or like a freaking you know what I mean.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I get that, and probably in a
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: way talking about it just gives it more attention that
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: they're looking for. So, I mean, I get that angle
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: of it for sure, but to but to talk about
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: sort of like to talk about Satanism and how like
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: how that fits into the dark Enlightenment. There's this I'm
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: sure you're aware. There's this group called the Order of
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: Nine Angles and there's a lot of there's a lot
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: of stuff involved with them that there's a lot of
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: terms that I don't I don't know that we're like
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: safety use on the on whatever platform you're streaming this on.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: But it's this group and they also subscribe this philosophy,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: this same idea of accelerationism. They and it's a very
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: nihilistic worldview. It's very it's very you know, I don't
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: know if you have ever seen Nine inch Nails. They
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: had an EP called Broken. It was like their second
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: sort of album, right after Pretty Hate Machine, and it
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: has the song's wish on it and anyway, they had
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: this thirty minute video that you can find online. But
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if banned is the right term. But
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: they didn't release it because it was just too much.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: And the video is super nihilistic. It's super dark. Like
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: it's got this guy who's got a got a gim
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: suit on and he's got this what do you call it,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: like a snorkel and the top of the snorkel is
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: connected to this toilet and people are flushing it, and
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: it's like it's like gross stuff, right, And it's very nihilistic,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: and it's very much sort of tied into a lot
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: of these nihilistic accelerationists and and and just to be clear,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think that that all of these groups that
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: I talk about in the Dark Enlightment series all believe
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: in the same exact thing, but they do all believe
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: in where it goes. They don't I don't know that
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: any of them care how it happens, but they're all
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: rooting and pushing for it to happen. And what I'm
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: talking about it is the collapse of society and getting
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: rid of the egalitarian aspects of the US Constitution.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: And the.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Accelerationists of there's different flavors of accelerationism. There's like left wing,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: right wing, and so on and the Order of Nine
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Angles is a group of people that have interest in
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: the occult, the Nazi beliefs, eugenics, ritual magic, and worshiping Satan.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: And there's a there's a b x on X who
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: did phenomena videos on this on her rumble. I tell
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: people to watch those because, like she unpacks, I think awesome.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: And I did two books. I did two book clubs
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: on this. In twenty twenty one, I interviewed William Ramsay
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: for his book that he wrote on the subject. And
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: then I read a book I forget the title of.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: It's always like a weird ass title. Anyway, it doesn't
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: matter the I did. There's a book written by these
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: guys that I read, and they subscribed to various sort
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: of dark, dark ideas about humanity, and one of them
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: is they call it the Art of calling c U
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: L L I G. And it's the idea of a
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: eugenic sort of extermination. Like they really anti human, They
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: just they want to see everyone like die, so they
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: advocate for these really dark, heinous crimes to happen in
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: the public sphere. For instance, there was a guy who
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: got arrested recent recently, I say recently, probably like a
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: year or two ago, and they had a plot that
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: luckily the FBI had intercepted the messages. What they wanted
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: to do was to dress up like Santa Claus and
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: hand out candy laced with rice in Times Square because
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: they wanted to have the largest amount of murders of children,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: specifically children, and all of this is like the shock
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: value of it, like it just goes to sort of
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: prove their nihilistic tendencies, like they don't think that that
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: evil is a bad thing, and that you'll find they
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: have various there's other groups that are affiliated sort of
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: similar to the Order of Nine Angles, like the Maniac
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: Murder Cult, which I actually think is who did that.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: I might have misspoke there, the Maniac Murder call I
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: think was the one the guy that got arrested trying
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: to dress like Santa Claus or whatever. But they're very
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: similar groups with similar aims, and it's the accelerationists and
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: it's about the destruction of society as we know it.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: There's a really interesting video that I listened to on
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: your Instagram that was talking about this the kids like
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: this online like kid cult that's like happening in Canada
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: and all that. I thought that that was really interesting.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Oh it's assassination. So I guess Luigi men Mangione or
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: Mangi only or whatever. I guess he's going to be
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: getting the death penalty from Oh what I've heard?
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, yeah, I don't remember. I don't recall
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: a video that is I might have been. I know
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: I made a video talking about how uh if you
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: remember back in the Balentciaga days and around twenty twenty one,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: it was a hot topic in the truth or world
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: about how if you sort of looked closely on the
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: photos of the Balenciaga ads, you would see various books,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: and those books if you got if you read into them,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: like some of them had court cases of and I'm
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: I'll be careful with my language here, court cases trying
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: to sort of defend videos of children, if you know
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And one of the artists involved with
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: the Balenciaga deal was Jake and Dinos Chapman. They had
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: artwork I called artwork, that's what they would call it.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: But their art included these images of children with appendages
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: on their face that were male and female, and they're
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: very X rated images and they called the name of
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: the piece f face, and you can look it up
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: for yourself and see them. It's very disturbing, and that
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: was a big topic with the Balenciaga stuff a few
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: years ago. But if you what it was interesting in
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: my research was that these guys were also tied into
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: the CCRU. They were I think it was Jake or
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: I think it was Jake Chapman was at the CCRU
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: the same place where these guys were doing sort of
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: weird occult stuff. And the outcome of the CCIU project
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: was Nick Land writing the Dark Enlightenment Essay, which informed
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: all of the accelerationist theories that Curtis Jarvin would take
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: and then whisper into the years of Peter Tiel and JD.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: Vance Right and all of that is part of the
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: blueprints of it are could arguably be found in the
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: Project twenty twenty five book. But the idea is that
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: Jake Chapman and Dinos were sort of involved in this movement.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: And in fact, there's a documentary that just came out
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: and I watched it and talked about it on my
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: Dark Enlightment series about accelerationism. They explain what it is,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: and they have this view about how the human biology
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: process is very comparable to that of a computer, right,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: And they're always like these reductionist thoughts that you find
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: in these philosophies. And it's interesting because when they said that,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: I thought, well, that's exactly. If you read John C. Lilly,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: the dude that was messing around with dolphins and ritual
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: magic and deprivation chambers and all this, he talked about
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: the same thing. I read this whole piece he wrote
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: about how the human mind is a biocomputer because they
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: think that they can reduce that. It's a very scientific worldview, right,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: they think they can reduce everything to binary digits of
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: ones and zeros, that they can sort of replicate this
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: experience of being a human. And this is it's a
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: very strange And because I've got this background in engineering,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: I understand it, because I've worked with these guys. Like
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: there's there's something off with a lot of these heavy
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: engineer minded scientists, guys like they're very like, you know,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know how to caricature it, but like, you know,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: like I don't know how do I say this without
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: picking on people. They're just off right, you can tell
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: there's something a little off, and that's kind of how
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: they view the world. They just think that, oh yeah,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: Like it's almost like they believe they can recreate sex
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: through virtual reality. And it's like, well, that's not really
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: the point, dude. Like the point is like connection with
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: another person, you know. And that's their whole weird atheist worldview.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: And not say the atheists are weird, but I'm just saying,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: like it's their whole like dark worldview, I should say, right,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: And they think that capitalism is doomed to fail and
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: AI is the true god and they need to sort
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: of evolve us into AI. And this is very much
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: part of the whole idea of getting us into a
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: digital matrix. They think that that's the superior form of life.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: And you know, these are the people that they live online.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: They live in the four chan forums and they're chronically online.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: And I don't know about you, but when I spend
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: too much time online, I'm like, oh my god, get
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: me out of here. I got to go outside. This
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: is like these people are crazy.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: They brain rod, Yeah, exactly, Like you got to take
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: a break, dude, Like this isn't like it's good for
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: some things and sometimes it's enjoyable, but the tickets to
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: the end all be all is insane to me.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: And they think that. They think that. And if you
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: read Arthur C. Clark's books, the two thousand and one
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: Space Odyssey series he's got there's four books in this series,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: and you'll when you read them, it takes you on
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: the thought process of how these people think, and it
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: the monolist from two thousand and one to Space Odyssey
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: are the alien intelligence. And in the sequel You in
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: twenty ten, you find out that they're trying to evolve
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: mankind and they end up blowing up the what do
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: they blow up? They create a second son and they
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: call it Lucifer. And then in the third and fourth
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: book you you find out without plot spoiling, you find
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: out that the whole plan is to evolve mankind into
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: digital consciousness, which is what their plan is.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: Is exactly what you maybe because I mean, it would
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: make sense because a lot of the channelers and a
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: lot of people that have claimed that they've had contacts
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: with extraterrestrial life, and they ask them, you know, how
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: do you how do you guys operate? What's going on?
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: They all say that they're in like a hive mind reality.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: They're like a bunch of bees. Right. Whenever the bees
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: are inside of the hive, they're essentially mind controlled and
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: brainwashed by the queen bee. Whenever they're outside of the hive,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: they're back to their own individuality. Right. That excuse me,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: that might be what people have been talking to this
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: entire time, right, is like an AI system. And then
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: whenever the AI system then can like artificially come into
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: our reality, it's just like the whole thing. But this, uh,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: this is the cult that I was talking about, is
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: the seven six four organization.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: They're they're similar affiliation, yeah, exactly. And and the bees.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: You a good point because you remember in two thousand
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: and one Space Odyssey that when the monoliths, I forget
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: which scene one of the scenes of the monolith shows up,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: it sounds like bees buzzing. It's like really loud. I
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: don't remember which scene it was, but I remember that
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: was one of the theories that that's the sound of bees.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: It is interesting that maybe there's a hive mind aspect
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: And many people have claimed that whenever they have like
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: these types of encounters, like it's they hear like a
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: B sound like a b buzzing.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: Sound really and then the and the be symbolically is
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: the it represents magic when you look at the history
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: of it. But in factly living out here in Utah,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: like the ld S, they root a lot of their
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: symbolism on the B like where the beehive state and
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: you'll you'll when you live here you see be stuff everywhere.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: And it's interesting because it goes back to magic. Is
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: the it's a symbol of magic. And Joseph Smith obviously
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: the guy was embedded with freemasonry and channeling spirits and
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: all of that same ideas.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've i haven't really taken it too much of
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: a deep dive into Mormonism because there's so much to
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: it and it's kind of exactly scientology.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: There's like just so much going on with it that
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: it just takes so much time to dissect and figure
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: everything out.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: You're you're exactly, dude, that's it. And you would think
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: I'd be a shoe in for that topic because I've
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: lived in Utah for many years now, and uh, it's
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: it's one thing like you tell people like, man, it's
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: just so much and I'm not I'm not knowne in
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: my family's olds, so I don't I don't know a
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: ton about it, and and it's a but there's a
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: lot of stuff, and I'm starting to unpack it because
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: i'm doing I'm working on a film analysis for Heretic.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Uh that's gonna have a couple of parts to it.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get this guy on who knows a lot
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: about the occult and the LDS, and he described some
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: of the inner workings of some of the you know,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: I hesitate to call it rituals because that's such a
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: loaded term, but there's like rituals within the LDS temple,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: and there's sort of levels you find in the movie Heretics.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: So I'm starting to get into the LDS thing soon
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: on my podcast.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: That's the movie where the Mormons come to the guy's
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: house and then he essentially traps him there and then
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: they go down into the basement. Yeah. I think I
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: watched it, but I was doing something also. It was
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: kind of just like running in the background. But from
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: what I've seen of it, I really liked it. I
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: should probably go back and watch it again because I
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: know that there's a lot of good symbolism in there
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: and like resurrection, death and resurrection and stuff that's that's
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: happening in there. I kind of like skimmed through it,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: and I look up every once in a while because
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: I was doing other things on my phone, but y'all,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: I'll have to go back and yeah, yeah, you really
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: study it.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: It's one of the ones you gotta like watch watch.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: I saw it in the theater and then I watched
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: it recently on stream to take some notes on it,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: and the second time through, I was like, oh, wow, Okay,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: there's a lot more in this than I really actually
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: caught in the theater. So I'm probably gonna watch it
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: a third time and then do my show here in
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks on it.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, have you watched Have you watched Sovereigns at all?
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Dude, that's another one. Man. I watched the first
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: season when it came out, and everyone's like, you gotta
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: do an analysis, and I was like, yeah, I could
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: see that there's a lot of heavy duty sort of
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: gnostic themes ai sort of not ai, both sort of
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: like technology stuff, and I didn't get around it because
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, man, I don't want to rewatch that
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: whole thing, and then the second season came out and
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: I watched that just recently finished it. I thought, Okay,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: I gotta start from scratch and sort of take notes
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: from the beginning of season one. So it's it's one
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: of those projects that's gonna take me forever, but I'm
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: gonna get to it here soon.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really wild one me and one I
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: all has been talking about it a lot here recently.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's super fascinating, especially because I
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: just got off of my Twin Peaks fifty five episode
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: analysis and there's a lot of there's not a lot
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: of there's similar vibes to Twin Peaks that you find
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: in severance, like there's a l there's a sort of
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: crossover audience there in a way, So and I get that.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm definitely gonna give it some the more
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: of the attention it deserves here soon, hopefully this summer.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: And then new Black Mirror season two.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, I know, I've seen a couple of
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: episodes of Black Mirror, but I weirdly enough, it's not
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: for some reason, you know what it is. It's that
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: the movie the episodes are like an hour I think,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: and my attention span is too. I don't know. I
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: prefer if it was like a Twilight Zone thing where
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: you had fifteen minute episodes. For some reason, I feel
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: like that would be better for me, but I'm kind
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: of hard to it don't make sense.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: But yeah, and it's not like a through line story.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: Each episode of its own self contained story. It's like
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: an anthology.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool too that the few episodes I've seen
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: have been pretty cool.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Well, if you get a chance to watch that first
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: episode of the new season, it's super dark. Oh really, OK,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be like, holy shit, what is going on here?
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: Bro?
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: Like it's a lot of commentary on like really what's
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: going on in our reality? Like they have this social
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: media site called dumb Dumb Dumbs where people just get
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: on there and do normally like they like hurt themselves
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: or like do crazy outlandish things for like money. I
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: was like, really really wild commentary on like social media
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: and why potentially get to you know, all this money
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: and I'll do whatever you want me to do basically, you.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, totally. That's that seems to be where a
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: lot of the it's funny, a lot of the people
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  Speaker 2: strive to be content creators. I've never understood it, and
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  Speaker 2: I talk to people about it because because I've been
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: kind of in this realm for so long, and and
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: and I always say to people like, why do you
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: want a following on these social media sites? Like you're
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: they they if if your income stream to live comes
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: from TikToker Instagram, like good luck man, because they control
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: the algorithm, they decide if you should be popping or not.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: And on top of that, if you wanted to make
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  Speaker 2: money off it. Now you're doing NonStop product placement ads
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: and sort of like selling out in a way. And
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying like I'm above selling products, but like
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: there's a limitation to it, right, Like I'm not going
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: to be like Truman Show every five seconds and be like,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: you know, my favorite pen is the this to twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like it's not like these people are like
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: you strive to do that? Why would you want that?
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: Like that looks like a nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Some of them have like three product placement ads
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  Speaker 1: back to back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like in the first like ten minutes of the show,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh yeah, you know, they'll be like, oh,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: what's the big one? Right, now it's the the online
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: therapy one. What better help, better help?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did, and look I did AD reach
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: them for a long time, all right, and I and
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: I actually I reject several of the offers I've given
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: unless I can like get behind it and I get
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: behind better help because I've done therapy for so many years,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: so like that was my perception of it. But I've
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: had some some companies approached me to do AD sponsorships
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: that I didn't agree with, and I just don't do them.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: But not say that I'm like this altruistic guy. I mean,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: everyone's got bills to pay.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm better help, but whatever. I mean, that's great.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: And if they're gonna pay you to do it, then
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: then great. But it'll go from like better help to
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: freaking boner pills to your taxes.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all all in the same video. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: the whole the whole social media game. Man. That's like
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: I always tell people like you don't want that, like
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: get do social media to sort of like refer you
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: people to like your podcast or your books or a
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: place where you can like like free will your own
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: thoughts and ideas instead of uh, depending on the social
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: media to be there because that social media thing, it
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: ain't gonna last forever. They're gonna they're gonna torch you.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: Uh at some point.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: They're gonna start charging you, which they already do on
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: X for certain benefits and uh, Facebook and everything. So
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: you have to essentially pay them money to be able
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: to make money, which what is going on. That's the
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: way it's gonna be with like all of it. But
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: thanks brother, thanks for coming on. Really appreciate it. Wonderful conversation.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: Can you let people know where they can find you online?
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me on. Appreciate it. I gotta
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you on my show here soon, so
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: be on the lookout for them and we'll be bugging
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: you about some things. Uh. So, my I did a
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: five episode dark Enlightenment series on my podcast I called
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: some Lismen and pop culture. You can find it everywhere,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: and I go deep and explaining the philosophies behind it.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: You know, today we barely scratch the surface, and we
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: talked about some of the ideas behind it. But if
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: you want a full comprehension of who's involved, why they're
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: doing it, the philosophies, and where it comes from and
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: how it all stems into Alistair Crowley and the occult stuff.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: Check out my five episodes series. I just wrapped it
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: up recently, and I just interviewed doctor Jock Vallet, which
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: was a fascinating, uh interview, And that's all on my podcast.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: You can find it everywhere my my my website, for
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: my link tree where I've got two podcasts and books
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: on Amazon and Audible and I'm all over the place.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: If you just go to all my links dot com
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: slash Isaac w two a's double awesome, you can you
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: can find links for all my books, my shows. I
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: sell t shirts. I'm like spaceballs up in this piece right,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: I'll be selling all kinds of stuff, So you can
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: find me everywhere you prefer. Some people just like looking
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: on social media and that's as deep as they want
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: to go. That's fine too. Instagram is my most popular one.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: So at Isaac Wishob on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, you're getting Joe Rogan's status. Bro, you get Jaqua
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: Vala on your.
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  Speaker 2: Status. I appreciate that. Thanks. Yeah, that's it was a
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: big interview. It was a big deal to me because
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: he I, there's two there's two guys in the world
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: that I want to talk to about aliens, the phenomenon
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: in the occult, and doctor Jacques Vallet was one of them.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: The other one's Peter Lavenda. If anyone knows Peter Levenda.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: I've tried. I've reached out to the guy several times
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: and he ignores me. I think he just thinks I'm
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: just some conspiracy jerk off, which he's half true about.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: But I want to get him because I think I
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: think those two guys know what the deal is, like
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: they know the angle of how the phenomenon works with
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: the occult.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: I think I've had the gentleman that has co written
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: a few books with Jacques Valle, Chris all Back on
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: my show, which he does an entire deep dive into
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: the history of like ufology, and he wrote a book
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: called Salcers. I've had him on the three or four times. Incredible.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: I might get you in contact with him because what
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: Jacques Vala doesn't talk about, he talks about. So he
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: goes into like the history of all this stuff and
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: like where it comes from, and it's like it's dubious, bro,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: It's all dubious. It's just like a repeating cycle of nonsense.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: And cycle Bowl garbage. But anyway, the links to Isaac's
• 1:33:04
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