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Which Heavy Favorite Will Flop In The 12-Team College Football Playoff? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Wednesday, August fourteenth. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, tom or the Akron game in seventeen days. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: bit excited as you see how small that number is
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  Speaker 1: getting every day the game it gets Michigan in one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and eight days, it's getting smaller to not quite
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  Speaker 1: as small, quite as quickly. But that's all right. We
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  Speaker 1: will get there all in all, in due time. We're
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  Speaker 1: actually today gonna be talking about something that happens after
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  Speaker 1: the Michigan game this season. It is a college football playoff.
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  Speaker 1: We've done a couple of these shows where we're taking
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  Speaker 1: sort of early season projections, magazine predictions, that kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and just sort of playing out what the college football
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  Speaker 1: field playoff field might look like this fall based on
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  Speaker 1: some of those. And yeah, I mean, magazines obviously have
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  Speaker 1: varying degrees of accuracy. Who knows more about college football
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  Speaker 1: though than sports media? I would submit no one. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure Tony Gerdaman agrees with me. Tony. The new AP
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  Speaker 1: Top twenty five is out. I don't know why they
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  Speaker 1: bother playing the season. We and our brethren in the
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  Speaker 1: sports media obviously know exactly what's going to happen. The
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  Speaker 1: only reason we're ever rolling is just because we don't
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  Speaker 1: want to spoil with the prize. But should are we
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  Speaker 1: okay to do a show with this or are we
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  Speaker 1: giving too much away?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know what I will say. They don't just
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  Speaker 2: give these votes out to anybody, so we can. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's fair to share that information with the world.
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  Speaker 2: It's for the good of all mankind. It is in
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  Speaker 2: part knowledge upon others who are much much, much much
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  Speaker 2: less knowledgeable about the subject. I think she's doing our part,
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  Speaker 2: and you're welcome.
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  Speaker 1: If Mother Teresa had a college football podcast, it would
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  Speaker 1: definitely be this one, all right, So lud Grenna once
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  Speaker 1: again remind you just of the format of the college
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  Speaker 1: football Playoff, because again it is very, very different than
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  Speaker 1: it has been in previous years. First round of games
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  Speaker 1: happening on campus, one happening on the evening of Friday,
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  Speaker 1: December twentieth, and then three games on Saturday, December twenty
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  Speaker 1: first one in the early afternoon time slot, one in
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  Speaker 1: the afternoon, and one in the evening. If you take
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  Speaker 1: the college football Top twenty five from the Associated Press
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  Speaker 1: and map that onto what this year's college football field
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  Speaker 1: would look like and just assume, hey, these guys are
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  Speaker 1: going to get it all right because they were their professionals. Absolutely, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: they will first round games number twelve, Boise State at
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  Speaker 1: number five, Oregon, number nine, Notre Dame at number eight,
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  Speaker 1: Ole Miss number eleven, Michigan at number six Texas, and
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  Speaker 1: number ten Penn State at number seven Alabama. And I
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  Speaker 1: think the first thing other than you know, every time
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  Speaker 1: we look at these, I'm like, wow, these are awesome games.
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  Speaker 1: Other than that, I think my big takeaway on this
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  Speaker 1: is Boise State in Oregon played in the are just
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  Speaker 1: set to play in the regular season. Michigan and Texas
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  Speaker 1: are set to play in the regular season. It sure
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  Speaker 1: feels like it would be easy to just, you know, yes,
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  Speaker 1: slide someone in one direction or another and all of a sudden, hey,
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  Speaker 1: number eleven Michigan is playing their number ten. Actually in
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  Speaker 1: number ten, Penn State is now number eleven, and then
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  Speaker 1: you avoid the avoid the rematch of regular season. And also, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get to who number eleven Michigan could play in
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  Speaker 1: the second round if they suddenly became number ten. But
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  Speaker 1: it just feels like the committee might be willing to
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  Speaker 1: just sort of just like put a little finger on
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  Speaker 1: the scale to slide things around chest a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they should, and that would create for
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  Speaker 2: a more intriguing product. I just wonder if you can
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  Speaker 2: do that with the group of five team. And I
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  Speaker 2: know we're not just talking about that, We're talking about
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  Speaker 2: maybe the nine, ten, eleven something like that. But if
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  Speaker 2: there is an argument for the twelve seed to move
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  Speaker 2: up and create just a better matchup or something we
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  Speaker 2: haven't seen, I don't I wonder if that's just not
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  Speaker 2: even a place they can go where it relates to
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  Speaker 2: the group of five, and so it is whoever that
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  Speaker 2: is just is just bound to that twelve seed at
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  Speaker 2: that five seed, so that it becomes, yeah, can can
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  Speaker 2: Michigan move around or something that eleven seed? But I
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  Speaker 2: do think with this one Boise State is twelve Oregon five?
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  Speaker 2: Can they avoid that? You know, it's a Week two matchup.
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  Speaker 2: Is it fair for Boise State to have to go
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  Speaker 2: to Oregon twice in the same year like that? That
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  Speaker 2: seems like welcome to the playoffs. Now you've got to
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  Speaker 2: go play outs in stadium twice. Congratulations, they've been clamoring
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  Speaker 2: for inclusion forever for almost twenty years now, and they've got it.
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  Speaker 2: It's like they're going to make them smoke the whole
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  Speaker 2: pack of playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yo, you want to you want to play
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  Speaker 1: with the big boys, do you? All right? Well, good
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  Speaker 1: luck with that? Yeah that. You know, if Boise State
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  Speaker 1: is going to move off of or whoever the group
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  Speaker 1: of five team is, Like, if it's Boise State, Boisse State,
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  Speaker 1: if they win at Oregon and they go twelve and
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  Speaker 1: zero in the regular season, I think they would have
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  Speaker 1: a very good caste to be the number nine team
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  Speaker 1: in the country or something like that, you know, regardless
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  Speaker 1: of what the rest of their schedule looks like functionally.
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  Speaker 1: Is that ever going to happen? Well, we did see
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati make the playoff once in the four team format,
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  Speaker 1: so I guess you can never say never, but it
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  Speaker 1: will certainly be interesting to see how how that all
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  Speaker 1: potentially shakes out. But let's move on now to the quarterfinals.
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  Speaker 1: December thirty first, in the evening New Year's Eve the vs.
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  Speaker 1: The Bowl and then the rest of the quarterfinals kick
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  Speaker 1: off with the Peach Bowl early afternoon on January first,
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  Speaker 1: then the Rose Bowl in the late afternoon, the Sugar
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  Speaker 1: Bowl in the evening. Just as a reminder, I spoke
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  Speaker 1: to the College Football Playoff executive director during Big Ten
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  Speaker 1: Media Days and just wanted to get some clarification on this.
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  Speaker 1: The bowl that you are the conference champions go to.
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  Speaker 1: The top four seeds that get the buys are all
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  Speaker 1: conference champions. The bowls that those teams go to are
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  Speaker 1: going to be based on the existing contracts with the
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  Speaker 1: leagues and the bowls. So the Big Ten Big Ten
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  Speaker 1: champion has historically gone to the Rose Bowl. The Big
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  Speaker 1: Ten champion, assuming they were one of the top four
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  Speaker 1: teams in the playoff, which they are almost certainly going
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  Speaker 1: to be, they would go to the Rose Bowl for
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  Speaker 1: the quarterfinal. That's true of the Georgia Bulldogs would probably
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  Speaker 1: go to the Peach Bowl or to the to the
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  Speaker 1: Sugar Bowl because that is where the SEC has their ties,
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  Speaker 1: and then kind of go down the line from there.
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  Speaker 1: So the projection here would be the New Year's Eve
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  Speaker 1: game would be the winner of Boise State in Oregon
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  Speaker 1: playing against Utah in the Fiesta Bowl, the winner of
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame and Ole Miss playing against Georgia in the
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  Speaker 1: Sugar Bowl, the winner of Michigan and Texas playing against
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  Speaker 1: Florida State in the Peach Bowl and the winner of
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  Speaker 1: Penn State in Alabama playing against Ohio State in the
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  Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. Back to back years of Alabama and the
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  Speaker 1: Rose Bowl feels like maybe the weirdest thing in a
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  Speaker 1: year full of weird things in college football. But you know, again,
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  Speaker 1: you slide one team, one direction on the you know,
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  Speaker 1: one spot on the line, and boy, you could have
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  Speaker 1: an Ohio State at Michigan Rose Bowl, and boy, oh boy,
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  Speaker 1: would that be fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how you passed that up. And
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  Speaker 2: again we're not yelling at the committee here. This is
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  Speaker 2: just AP projections of the of the ballot, of the
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  Speaker 2: AP vote and placing them. But I could not be
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  Speaker 2: in that committee room and not be like, hey, you guys,
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  Speaker 2: see what I'm seeing. Right, If we just make Michigan
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  Speaker 2: ten in Penn State eleven, we can have Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: Michigan in the Rose Bowl and me, as I always say,
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  Speaker 2: when that happens, home jerseys for both teams. But like,
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  Speaker 2: this is once in a lifetime, once in I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: many lifetimes, an opportunity to have Ohio State Michigan in
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs against each other in the Rose Bowl to
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  Speaker 2: go to the semi finals. The the Rose Bowl is
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  Speaker 2: always like huge, High State, Michigan is always huge. Put
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  Speaker 2: them together, and it's if you don't do this, somebody
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  Speaker 2: needs to be fired, frankly, like if you don't move
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  Speaker 2: teams around, like we're talking one spot two teams, like,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't do that. And we know that the
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  Speaker 2: committee can justify any move they make because they do
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  Speaker 2: it every single week and they contradict themselves most weeks.
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  Speaker 2: So this would not be anything they could do. How
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  Speaker 2: unless you've got a situation where Penn State beats Michigan,
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  Speaker 2: although I don't believe they play, so it's not even
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  Speaker 2: in this situation again, not quite likely to happen, but
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  Speaker 2: you wouldn't have to go head to head. Now, there
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  Speaker 2: could be some instances where they do have to go
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  Speaker 2: ahead to head. Good news is that doesn't always matter
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  Speaker 2: if they don't want it to matter. So there is that.
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  Speaker 1: There is that we have always hated it when the
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  Speaker 1: Committee kind of makes it up as it goes along.
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  Speaker 1: I would be completely okay with making it up as
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  Speaker 1: it goes along. In this case, this feels like Tony,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna make this up right now off the
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  Speaker 1: top of my head. Never words, never spoken before in
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  Speaker 1: the history of the world. If the playoff committee has
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  Speaker 1: a chance to put Ohio State in Michigan together in
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  Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl in the quarterfinal and they don't do it,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to regret it. Maybe not today, Tony, maybe
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  Speaker 1: not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of their lives.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good line.
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  Speaker 2: Write that down.
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  Speaker 1: Surprised no one's used that one before. All right, so
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  Speaker 1: let's move on to the semi finals, and now we're
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  Speaker 1: kind of in the well, it's going to be one
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  Speaker 1: of these seventeen different teams, but January ninth, January tenth,
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  Speaker 1: Orange Bowl and Cotton Bowl one one night, won the
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  Speaker 1: next night. The way this would lay out for the
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  Speaker 1: according to the A people, would be Georgia in the
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  Speaker 1: Orange Bowl playing probably the Oregon Utah winner, So probably
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  Speaker 1: Georgia Oregon if you're kind of holding through to where
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  Speaker 1: the rankings would have teams, and then Ohio State Texas
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  Speaker 1: in the Cotton Bowl. This is something we've talked about before.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of the advantages of doing these things
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  Speaker 1: for these sort of projection things where you could see
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  Speaker 1: an Ohio State team being the second team in the
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  Speaker 1: country and then having to play Texas in Texas and
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  Speaker 1: then potentially having to play Georgia in Georgia in the
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  Speaker 1: National championship game.
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  Speaker 2: I asked the.
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  Speaker 1: College Football Playoff executive director about that as well. He said,
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  Speaker 1: the number one team will get some consideration there where
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  Speaker 1: if you know, Ohio State and Texas are on the
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  Speaker 1: same side of the bracket and Ohio State is number one,
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  Speaker 1: they might kick Ohio State over to the Orange Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Even if that's not, you know, geographically the closest for
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know that it would make more sense
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  Speaker 1: to geographic that to have Georgia there. Maybe the number
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  Speaker 1: one team will get some consideration in that. In that case,
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  Speaker 1: if you're the number two team, like yeah, sorry about
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  Speaker 1: your luck, that's you know, nothing, nothing you can do
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  Speaker 1: about it. So that number one seed is potentially important
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  Speaker 1: in terms of keeping a play Texas in Texas and
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  Speaker 1: Georgia in Georgia's situation from happening, and you can't nothing
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  Speaker 1: you can do about where the National Championship game is,
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  Speaker 1: but you could have that impact in the semi final.
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  Speaker 1: What I think is interesting to me is how every
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  Speaker 1: time people are projecting this sort of stuff out. It's
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  Speaker 1: always Ohio State, Georgia, Oregon, Texas and the final four,
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  Speaker 1: which one of those is not getting there because we
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  Speaker 1: know whenever it's whenever it's too easy, it never happens
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  Speaker 1: that way. So who is not getting there? Who is
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  Speaker 1: getting upset before the semi finals?
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  Speaker 2: In the In this instance, this one again shows us
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  Speaker 2: that being that five seed is not all that bad
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  Speaker 2: because you get you get the group of five, and
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  Speaker 2: then you get the what is essentially the worst conference
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  Speaker 2: champ which could be in you know, a nine to
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  Speaker 2: four team theoretically, but then you eventually have to meet
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  Speaker 2: up against the one seed. But still like that, that
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  Speaker 2: five seed is not a bad road. I guess uh,
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  Speaker 2: I guess I'll go Texas not making it because it's
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  Speaker 2: history has shown us it's easier to not have faith
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  Speaker 2: in Texas and be rewarded for it. Although you could
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  Speaker 2: say the same thing about Oregon, But right now I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to go with Texas. I do have one question
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  Speaker 2: for you, though, Tom the number one seed getting favorability,
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  Speaker 2: what happens if there is no number one seed? Does
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  Speaker 2: does that favor then go to the highest ranked team
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  Speaker 2: or is it only the number one seed that gets consideration.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the highest the highest ranked team the number. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there has to be a number. Well this is this
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  Speaker 1: is sorry, let's be clear. This is on selection Sunday
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  Speaker 1: when they're laying things out, they will have that. They
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  Speaker 1: will have that laid out that you know, it's not
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  Speaker 1: going to be that you you know, you you finish
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  Speaker 1: your game on New Year's Day and then you find
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  Speaker 1: out which ball game you're going to, and they will
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  Speaker 1: have it laid out. So you know, if Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: and Texas are on the same side of the bracket,
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  Speaker 1: that's something the committee could take into account in terms
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  Speaker 1: of if Ohio State's number one seeds. I probably did
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  Speaker 1: not explain that completely or correctly. So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: So that is that is not something that is going
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  Speaker 1: to get changed after New Year's Day or will depend
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  Speaker 1: on They would just say, hey, if Texas on the side,
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  Speaker 1: or you know, if Miami is one of the is
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  Speaker 1: one of the is, if Miami's the four seed and
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  Speaker 1: Georgia's the one seed, they probably they would probably ship
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  Speaker 1: Georgia out to the Cotton Bowl and have them play
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  Speaker 1: Miami in the Cotton Bowl rather than having them play
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  Speaker 1: Miami or the Orange Bowl, which would be functionally a
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  Speaker 1: home game for Miami, which I guess if Miami's good,
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  Speaker 1: they would probably have fans there. I mean a normal
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  Speaker 1: Miami home game. The crowd's obviously not a factor. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well but that's that's how it was explained to me.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like that's absolutely going to happen, but
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  Speaker 1: it is something that you know, the committee can take
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  Speaker 1: into consideration that in terms of not putting the number
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  Speaker 1: one seed in a disadvantageous spot in the semi finals.
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  Speaker 1: So hopefully that explains it. As far as the National
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  Speaker 1: Championship Game goes. January twentieth, twenty twenty five, nothing else
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  Speaker 1: going on in America that day, Tony the nation's eyes
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  Speaker 1: purely turned the National Championship Game in Atlanta, Georgia, in
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  Speaker 1: Mercedes Benz Stadium. You know, if you're going to follow
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  Speaker 1: the ap Poles lead, and why wouldn't you number one Georgia,
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  Speaker 1: number two Ohio State matching up in the Georgia Dome,
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  Speaker 1: not the Georgia Dome. That that has not happened, that
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  Speaker 1: has been going for a while. Jamal Anderson not walking
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  Speaker 1: through that door. It is it is in the Mercedes
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  Speaker 1: Benz Stadium, a place where we have seen Georgia and
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State play an absolutely dynamite game in the past.
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  Speaker 1: Feels like, you know, I mean, there's a long way
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  Speaker 1: to go between here and January twenties, but boy, it
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  Speaker 1: feels like you could be setting up for another absolute
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  Speaker 1: classic of a national championship game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah one. And I'll keep saying this. Whoever wins this
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  Speaker 2: is going to win the most difficult national championship in
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  Speaker 2: college football history. It's the most difficult road that anybody's
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  Speaker 2: going to go through, and it's going to be the
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  Speaker 2: first time doing it and trying to figure out how
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  Speaker 2: you're going to be learning as you go along. And
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  Speaker 2: I just remember Urban Meyer after twenty fourteen s and
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  Speaker 2: we could never play it. We couldn't have played another
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  Speaker 2: game after this one, and things like that, and like, well,
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  Speaker 2: let's see, and then they're going to have to and
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  Speaker 2: then another one. And so the road is the most
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  Speaker 2: treacherous in college football history. But anytime I look at
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  Speaker 2: these brackets and you just look at them, it's it's
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  Speaker 2: hard not to get excited about it. And season is
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  Speaker 2: now a little over two weeks away, and it's just
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  Speaker 2: you see the schools up there, you see what could
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  Speaker 2: be and the fact that it's here now, Like there's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a playoff game at Penn State or
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  Speaker 2: you know, Ohio Stadium or whatever, and it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be you know, shoot, like Alabama at Penn State or
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  Speaker 2: Penn State at Alabama. The things that we're going to
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  Speaker 2: be able to see that we've never seen before. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that's awesome for college football.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, definitely awesome for college football. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: those things, you know, and we may find out a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years from now, like hey, those first round
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  Speaker 1: games don't matter at all. Those teams all get killed
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  Speaker 1: in the summer in the quarterfinals or whatever. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: right now, it is all new, It is all exciting,
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  Speaker 1: all stuff we have not seen before. Cannot wait. Mentioned
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  Speaker 1: the season, Ohio State season two weeks away, a little
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  Speaker 1: over two weeks away, Week zero, that first Saturday of
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  Speaker 1: the season, ten days away. College football almost here, the
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  Speaker 1: longest off season in major North American sports, finally almost over,
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  Speaker 1: and now headed for what is going to be the
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  Speaker 1: longest season in college football history. Never gone this far
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  Speaker 1: this deep into January before, and you start nice and
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  Speaker 1: early as well. August twenty, fourth Week zero, August thirty,
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  Speaker 1: first Week one, Ohio State will be hosting Acron at
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  Speaker 1: three o'clock three thirty pm on ES on CBS, No one,
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  Speaker 1: not on ESPN anymore. Sorry that was just reflective. Three
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  Speaker 1: thirty CBS Wives Died Akron seventeen days. Cannot wait. And
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  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of games more exciting than
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  Speaker 1: that even after later on in the season. So have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of that to look forward to. Try not
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  Speaker 1: to focus entirely on the college football playoff. We keep
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  Speaker 1: doing these shows about this, and you know, all season
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  Speaker 1: I will end up reminding you, like, don't worry about
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  Speaker 1: the playoff. Just enjoy the season. The season goes so fast,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: you got to enjoy the season for the season. We
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  Speaker 1: will probably up doing these at some point, but just
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  Speaker 1: with it being a new season, a new format, I
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  Speaker 1: want to just kind of run through it and let
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  Speaker 1: just know sort of what this could look like in
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  Speaker 1: December when the season is finally hitting its helm stretch.
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  Speaker 1: So between now and then, you got a lot of
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: time to time to kill, You got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: days to fill. A great place to do that would
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: be at buckeyehuddle dot com. That's where Tony, Kevin and
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  Speaker 1: I cover the team, Mark covers recruiting, had our whole
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  Speaker 1: team of X's nose grews there to make us make
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  Speaker 1: you a smarter football fan, and as at buckeyehuddle dot
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  Speaker 1: slash Buckeye Huddle, lots of content there. We'll have more
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: interviews for you coming up a little later on in
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: the week, planning more coverage, inside access, and much much
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  Speaker 1: more all at Buckey huddle dot com and YouTube dot
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  Speaker 1: com slash Buckeye Huddle. That'll do it for today. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you guys all for joining us. Have a great day.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow.