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Mac & Bone Show - Jim Szoke Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:21
  Speaker 1: All right, let's keep talking Panthers, trying to figure out
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: what the heck happened yesterday. 43-13, loss to the Bucs,
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: Mack and Bone with you. The Texters are fired up
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: as you freaking should be. I feel like everybody's got
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: to get a shot with the whooping stick.
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: We haven't even talked about the most comically awful part
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: of a very comically awful day. When the Panthers finally scored,
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: you thought, oh, wow, they're doing something here. Good morning,
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: Jim Zoki.
• 0:49
  Speaker 3: This is great. They scored.
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: Maybe they can chip away here. Like the Dolphins game
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: last year, they got down early and they came back
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: and they won the game. Maybe this is this year's.
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: Then the extra point gets blocked and all of a
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: sudden we're down 19-6.
• 1:01
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: That's what I was saying earlier. Every time Jim Zoki's
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: with us, every time so... They did do something good.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: They undid it. Like the defense on the second drive
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: got to stop. I know it's hard.
• 1:12
  Speaker 3: It's easy to forget now.
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: That's when David Moore immediately dropped the football.
• 1:16
  Speaker 4: And then after that, the defense then held him to.
• 1:20
  Speaker 3: A field goal.
• 1:21
  Speaker 4: Pretty good job.
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: And then Bryce turns it over for if, you know,
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: gets a hunt beat.
• 1:27
  Speaker 4: Sacked, forced fumble, touchdown the other way.
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: It's like every time they did something good, they followed
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: it up with something horrendous.
• 1:33
  Speaker 3: To Bone's particular point, we scored a touchdown and then
• 1:36
  Speaker 3: gave up a field goal. Because we lost a point,
• 1:38
  Speaker 3: and then we gave up two more. So we gave
• 1:40
  Speaker 3: up three while scoring a touchdown.
• 1:41
  Speaker 4: So a touchdown was worth four freaking points.
• 1:43
  Speaker 3: And then we had to kick the ball off to them.
• 1:45
  Speaker 3: You said Carboni was trying to calculate.
• 1:47
  Speaker 4: He walked by.
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: He was trying to do the net of like, so
• 1:49
  Speaker 3: what did we just lose? Two? I go, actually three,
• 1:51
  Speaker 3: because we should make an extra point.
• 1:52
  Speaker 4: That's a hell of a point.
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: So the touchdown, that beautiful pass by Bryce, which is
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: about the only one he threw all day, that was
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: worth four points.
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It was everything. Like you said, it was comically bad.
• 2:06
  Speaker 3: The game was ridiculous. At some point, it was just
• 2:09
  Speaker 3: people were kind of trying to stick around for halftime
• 2:12
  Speaker 3: for the Luke Kuechly part of the thing because you're
• 2:13
  Speaker 3: down 27 at halftime. And then we come out to
• 2:16
  Speaker 3: start the second half, and it just kept on going
• 2:18
  Speaker 3: from there because you keep thinking eventually it's going to turn.
• 2:21
  Speaker 3: Maybe we'll get within where it seems like we might
• 2:25
  Speaker 3: have a chance here. But it was just one of
• 2:26
  Speaker 3: those horrific games to the point where I'm sure you
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: played it soundly. Dave Canale says, I've never been a
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: part of a first half like that. We had the
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: Chicago game this year where he gave up 59, but
• 2:36
  Speaker 3: if you think about it, we were tied in the
• 2:37
  Speaker 3: third quarter of that game. This game was just like
• 2:40
  Speaker 3: nothing from the beginning.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: Fitty said, Dave, how bad were you losing at halftime
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: against the Saints in your first year?
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: Does that performance make you worry about Bryce at all,
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: or do you think that this version of Bryce, he's
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: still going to have some bad gains, but This is
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: not going to be something that continues on week after
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: week now.
• 3:00
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, you have to throw it into,
• 3:03
  Speaker 3: you know, you're going to have ups and downs in
• 3:05
  Speaker 3: 17 games. And this was a down. I think so
• 3:07
  Speaker 3: much of it was generated by we've been saying, like,
• 3:10
  Speaker 3: go ahead, Blitz. He loves he thrives in chaos. Well, gosh,
• 3:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's chaos. And then there's an avalanche because
• 3:16
  Speaker 3: I just felt like the protection was so bad yesterday.
• 3:19
  Speaker 3: It was a really difficult situation to operate under. There's
• 3:23
  Speaker 3: only so much you can do. And so when you
• 3:25
  Speaker 3: get sacked five times, and there could have been more,
• 3:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, just under constant duress, it's hard to operate
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: the offense out there. So I think it begins with that.
• 3:33
  Speaker 3: I think Bryce has shown over the first part of
• 3:35
  Speaker 3: the season he can perform very well. But you have
• 3:38
  Speaker 3: to have some amount of operation space and time out
• 3:40
  Speaker 3: there to run the plays. So I do. His part
• 3:43
  Speaker 3: of it, too. No question, his part of it, too.
• 3:45
  Speaker 3: But I think it begins up front with the lack
• 3:47
  Speaker 3: of protection and now losing Taylor Moten for it. who
• 3:50
  Speaker 3: knows for how long, is difficult.
• 3:52
  Speaker 4: Killer.
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: It was the fastest time to pressure of the season,
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: 2.4 seconds.
• 3:58
  Speaker 4: It was getting there quick. Here's the most alarming stat. Bowles' M.O.
• 4:03
  Speaker 4: is the blitz, right?
• 4:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 4:04
  Speaker 4: Every one of the five sacks was without a blitz.
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: That's what hurts.
• 4:08
  Speaker 4: It was just a four-man rush. Regular pass protection. Yeah.
• 4:10
  Speaker 3: I think they had Rasheed Walker for giving up three
• 4:12
  Speaker 3: of the sacks, six quarterback pressures. It wasn't just him,
• 4:15
  Speaker 3: but that was the most of it, at least half
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: of it. And then... again, you can only do so
• 4:21
  Speaker 3: much operating of the offense and everyone's always going to
• 4:23
  Speaker 3: look at the quarterback first. I mean, I guess, you know,
• 4:25
  Speaker 3: you always have to say, all right, we have to
• 4:26
  Speaker 3: max protect now. We have to do this. Now it's
• 4:28
  Speaker 3: taking you out of what you game planned all week
• 4:30
  Speaker 3: for as far as how you're going to operate the offense.
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: You look at it, we didn't run enough to make
• 4:34
  Speaker 3: a difference in the game, but we ran it five
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: yards a carry.
• 4:36
  Speaker 4: They ran it efficiently. It's just when you get down
• 4:38
  Speaker 4: 78 to nothing.
• 4:40
  Speaker 3: What are we going to do? Run the clock out? Like,
• 4:42
  Speaker 3: what are we going to do at that point? Ty's
• 4:44
  Speaker 3: got a touchdown at the end. So to me, it's like, Yeah,
• 4:47
  Speaker 3: it's a bad game all the way around. And I
• 4:49
  Speaker 3: know they always say, you know, flush it, move on.
• 4:50
  Speaker 3: And you have to because they already had their Monday
• 4:52
  Speaker 3: meeting on Sunday to get ready for a short work week. Thursday,
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: go into Green Bay. So you do have to turn
• 4:56
  Speaker 3: quickly in this case because you legitimately, time-wise, have to
• 5:01
  Speaker 3: turn quickly to get into the next game. And maybe
• 5:03
  Speaker 3: that's the best thing. And this is just an interesting coincidence.
• 5:07
  Speaker 3: But last year, our worst game of the year was
• 5:09
  Speaker 3: at home against Buffalo. We lost 40-9 and went to Lambeau,
• 5:13
  Speaker 3: beat the Packers as heavy underdogs. Good point. Can't predict
• 5:17
  Speaker 3: exactly what's going to happen, but it shows how quickly
• 5:19
  Speaker 3: things can turn in the NFL.
• 5:20
  Speaker 4: The trans bone with this team would indicate a bounce back.
• 5:25
  Speaker 4: They would.
• 5:26
  Speaker 3: Right, Bone? Yeah.
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: Bone's like.
• 5:29
  Speaker 4: I've never heard.
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: Him not respond. I thought he was still saying it.
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: I thought he was still talking. I'm not used to
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: Matt stopping.
• 5:35
  Speaker 4: Bone, help me out.
• 5:37
  Speaker 3: Who's with me? Help me out. Anybody?
• 5:39
  Speaker 4: Now bounce back and win? I don't know.
• 5:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you're right.
• 5:43
  Speaker 2: This good-bad, good-bad, good-bad situation here would lead to... Although
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: the short week, you never quite know. Maybe that plays
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: a factor either way.
• 5:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: What do you think's been wrong with Robert Hunt this
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: year and why he has not... been anywhere near as
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: effective as he was when he was healthy a couple
• 5:59
  Speaker 2: years ago?
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: That's an interesting question. I don't think there's a great
• 6:03
  Speaker 3: answer for it because this is a guy that was
• 6:05
  Speaker 3: obviously well-paid, brought in, who played very well when he
• 6:08
  Speaker 3: arrived and before arriving here. And it's not been up to,
• 6:11
  Speaker 3: I'm sure, his standard as far as overall and some
• 6:13
  Speaker 3: of the penalties that have happened beyond what's happened with
• 6:16
  Speaker 3: the blocking out there, too. So it's difficult. I think
• 6:18
  Speaker 3: the offensive line, it's been a difficulty this year that, again,
• 6:23
  Speaker 3: we talk about Bryce having to perform under chaos because
• 6:25
  Speaker 3: he has to You'd like for him not to have
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: to perform under chaos. What would it look like if
• 6:28
  Speaker 3: he had, most times, pass protection and so forth? And
• 6:32
  Speaker 3: there's been a lot of talk about people going, Baker Mayfield,
• 6:34
  Speaker 3: he's 7-1 against the Panthers. It's like, he did his part.
• 6:37
  Speaker 3: I think that position is more than stats. It is
• 6:41
  Speaker 3: a presence. There is a culture. There's a mindset. I'm
• 6:43
  Speaker 3: sure they had a sense of, hey, we've got to
• 6:45
  Speaker 3: protect Baker today. Let's run the ball really well. That
• 6:48
  Speaker 3: was inspired by the fact that. But he threw for
• 6:50
  Speaker 3: 64 yards. He threw the ball 11 times. They ran
• 6:52
  Speaker 3: 49 times to 11 pass attempts in the game.
• 6:55
  Speaker 4: 30 runs in the first half.
• 6:56
  Speaker 3: So Baker's not 7-1. The Bucs are 7-1 because it's
• 7:00
  Speaker 3: a collective effort because. I mean, if there was ever
• 7:03
  Speaker 3: a game where it was, you could say, all three
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: phases that you got beat in, this was it.
• 7:07
  Speaker 4: Special teams was brutal, too.
• 7:09
  Speaker 3: Special teams, muffed punt, and then also the extra point,
• 7:11
  Speaker 3: as we mentioned, getting blocked for two points the other way.
• 7:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, does that happen like once in the year
• 7:16
  Speaker 3: of the NFL football, of all the games of the league?
• 7:18
  Speaker 3: Like about once a year, someone might return one? for
• 7:21
  Speaker 3: two points, if that.
• 7:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 7:22
  Speaker 3: Once every several years.
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: And the luck they had on that one, the way
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: it got blocked and drops right in the guy's arms,
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: kind of like the fumble of Bryce bounces perfectly for
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: Kalijah Cansey. Like, again, and I'm not on here saying
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: we lost because of bad luck, but it didn't help.
• 7:37
  Speaker 4: It wasn't our day.
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: By the way, you have triggered walk them down on
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: the text line. You, along with every Panther yesterday after
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: the game, He says, I swear to God, if I
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: hear flush it one more time.
• 7:49
  Speaker 3: It's like me after Thanksgiving.
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: Bone said what they're trying to flush is definitely going
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: to clog the toilet.
• 7:57
  Speaker 3: By the way, it is like a league-wide freeze now.
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: It's just because, oh, I just got to flush it. Well,
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: there you go. It's over. It's gone. It's down.
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: It's that simple. Now, can the fans bone flush all
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: the money? I bet they feel like they flushed all
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: the money they spent. See, that's the thing. The tone
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: coming out of that locker room after the game was, oh,
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: we moved on already.
• 8:14
  Speaker 4: We just had our meeting.
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: And it's like, go tell the fans who two out
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: of three games have seen this defense completely get annihilated. Like,
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: that's the thing is, I get it to flush it down.
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: It's one thing to lose at home in some dramatic
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: fashion or something. They've just completely wasted money from the onset.
• 8:29
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: Can somebody stand up, and I thought Derrick Brown would
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: do it, and say what we did today is unacceptable.
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: That's embarrassing. And that tone was not, I don't know
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: if Dave just set the tone in the speech and
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: they all followed it, but it was like, does nobody
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: here feel absolutely humiliated?
• 8:46
  Speaker 3: No, I think they do, and they just, you know, again,
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: it's probably some media training that goes into that, like
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: you said.
• 8:52
  Speaker 4: Give me real, man.
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: Not to be so quotable, but it was an interesting
• 8:55
  Speaker 3: weekend because, you know, the Hornets bounced back, obviously, quickly
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: after the 47-point loss. But what a weekend of booing
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: we had here. And I said it last week on
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: another show. I said, I am never upset about fans
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: booing at home because of their financial and time investment.
• 9:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, especially if you're a season ticket holder. You
• 9:13
  Speaker 3: show up early, you tailgate the expense, the anticipation. You're spending,
• 9:18
  Speaker 3: if you're a season ticket holder, thousands and thousands of dollars.
• 9:22
  Speaker 3: And if you're not happy, I mean, it's a natural
• 9:23
  Speaker 3: human reaction. I mean, I guess you want to be
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: supportive to your team, but I think you are. But
• 9:27
  Speaker 3: I think there are some times you're just kind of like,
• 9:29
  Speaker 3: you know, it just is what it is. It's a
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: bad performance. And so I don't ever get upset with
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: fans that boo. I think people take that the wrong
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: way because I think they're just, you know, hoping you'll
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: turn it around and turn it into a cheer because
• 9:41
  Speaker 3: they want you to win as much as the players
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: work and try to get it to get done. But
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: it's human nature to be upset. I mean, you can't expect, oh,
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: it's okay, guys. You'll get them next time.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: Is it wrong, Bone, that I am proud of us
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: as a sports city that we booed?
• 9:55
  Speaker 4: Because when I got here... We did a lot of
• 9:57
  Speaker 4: that this weekend. When I got here, I was all,
• 10:00
  Speaker 4: proud then. They gave me a lot of examples.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: But in 2024, I should say, when I got here,
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: and you know it, Zogue, and you know it too, Bone,
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: it was a different feel of a sports town.
• 10:11
  Speaker 4: It was a little bit more of a, oh, you'll
• 10:13
  Speaker 4: get them next time, guys. And I don't know.
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: Some people might disagree with me. Some people might think
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: we've grown as a sports city for the for the worst.
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: But I think they're pros. They're getting paid big money.
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: They can take it.
• 10:24
  Speaker 4: Like, I think this is the way passionate sports towns act.
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: I think it's fair and it's normal. The Charlotte Hornets
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: are famously known. for playing their first game ever in
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: the late 80s, losing to the Cavaliers by 40 and
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: getting a standing ovation. That's how we began as a
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: professional sports center. I think we're pretty kind overall, like
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: you said, compared to Philadelphia and some other places.
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: I have a stat here to back up what Mac
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: was saying about the trend of the performing better after
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: losses like this. In the Dave Canales two-year and now
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: change tenure as Panther head coach, He's 12-10 after losses.
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: The game immediately following a loss, he's 12-10 for a
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: 545 win percentage. They did it six times last year
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: and twice this year already.
• 11:10
  Speaker 4: So you're right.
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: There is a trend there where he's got a winning
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: record after losses.
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: And Zoe gave up. The Buffalo brought us the Packer
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: one after the Buffalo blowout.
• 11:18
  Speaker 4: How about the Bears? Hang 59 on us. We go
• 11:20
  Speaker 4: and win 34-3.
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 11:22
  Speaker 4: Albeit against the law firm of Russian Strand. Yeah. What
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: do you think about this? That's it, Matt.
• 11:28
  Speaker 3: We're winning 34-3 Thursday.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: What do you think about the run defense, Oak? I
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: know Jalen Phillips was out, but you said it. They
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: looked like they wanted to protect Baker and get through
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: a game without him really having to do much, and
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: we acquiesced and allowed that. 258 yards, just what, five
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: games after giving up 291?
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: How do you— How do you explain that?
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: It's awful. No, it's awful because you had to think
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: with Baker's injury that that was going to be their mindset.
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of that you know what they're going
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: to do and you still can't stop it. And there
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: is a cumulative because we think of just defensive lines sometimes.
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: At some point, I think you can get by in
• 12:06
  Speaker 3: times without your two starting corners, but add Jalen Phillips
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: into that. I mean, next man up is great, but
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: those are all three well-paid players. So it's like they're
• 12:15
  Speaker 3: well-paid for a reason. At some point, you want to
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: have your best players out there And it's just sometimes
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: it gets you against certain matchups. I think some teams
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: are tough matchups. And I think Bucky Irving doesn't get
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: enough credit for being one of the best running backs
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: in the league. Granted, it was him and Gainwell, so
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: it was a cumulative thing that it wasn't just one
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: player yesterday in this case here. But, yeah, it's this constant, like,
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: you know, lack of tackling. So sometimes they get by
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: that first layer, like you need your corner to come
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: up or your safety to make a tackle, and they're
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: missing two. and all of a sudden it's a touchdown
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: or a 30-yard run on something that looks pretty simple
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: out there.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: Do they even want to tackle that at Caleb Evans?
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: Just when I thought a Caleb Evans covering was the
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: worst part of his game, he got stiff-armed so easily, Zoke,
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: it was like a toddler.
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: It was like they were stiff-arming a.
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: Toddler, man. Yeah, and the one touchdown pass, it's like
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: we were as close to the receiver as he was.
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: It was just so much space there. So again, they're
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: going to have to adjust things and maybe make some
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: shuffling of the lineup with some situation, but secondary help
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: along you know we talk about the linebackers and the
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: defensive front it's a collective effort out there in terms
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: of being able to tackle that uh you rely on
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: the secondary that last line of defense.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah god dang this this texter would like zoki to
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: start at corner this week.
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: Same result would happen i would tell you that it
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: would not be a better result any speed off the
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: torn Achilles are you still okay Yeah, it's the same
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: lack of speed that was there in high school.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: Imagine the cushion. People don't like cushions. Imagine the cushion
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: Zoki would give on those Packers receivers.
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: Zoki, what sports did you play? Keep it in front
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: of you.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: What sports did you play in high school?
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: I played football, but I mostly played baseball and basketball
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: all the way through high school. That's nice.
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: Look at that, baby.
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: You would do Jim Thorpe.
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: Oh, they're going to say the same thing.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: Jim Thorpe Zoki.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: Well, I should mention, not well. I played several sports,
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: but none of them particularly well, unlike Jim Thorpe.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: We got a great question here, 704 number. Does Zoki
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: hate these segments after losses?
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: I feel like you guys interrogate him like he was responsible,
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: not to mention the texters that for some reason seem
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: to blame him.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: Zoki, we want the truth! Come on, Zoki, tell us!
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: I'm only the conduit to the information that is there
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: with the team itself.
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: But yes, I think the answer is I think he
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: doesn't like these.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: They're not as fun.
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: But he's a professional.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: They're not as fun.
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: Definitely.
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: I was hoping to do a Packers preview edition of
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: this one, but we'll save that for another time.
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: That's what you should have done. Imagine how mad that.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: Texter would have been. I'm here for the Green Bay preview.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: What are you guys talking about?
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: If you said, I'm flushing it. I refuse to talk
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: about it. I'm here for Green Bay.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: I said before, I'd like to move my segment, not
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: this week at Winter Work, but to Fridays, because Friday
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: would be another— recap day on friday it's a happy
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: friday while we're here we need a flush sound effect
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: for the rest of.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: The show there is no doubt about it this dude
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: says when you hire an nfl coach that should be
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: a a youth camp counselor this is what you get
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: boy they turned quickly i know that's the thing too
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: i will say so We were, as a fan base,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: pretty high going into that game.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: We're still in first place. We're still in first place.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: I know it doesn't feel good, but we're still in
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: first place.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Like, we can vent, but do we need to, like...
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Somebody said, if we lose this week, is Canales getting fired?
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: And it's like, I don't feel like we need to
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: turn that dramatically that fast.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: I can promise that will not be the case. Okay,
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: thank you for that. That one we can predict will
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: not be the case.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: Thank you for that. All right, Zoke, you're the man, baby. Hey, guys,
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: flush it, right? You're the man.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: That's right. Flush it. I wish who was ever in
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: the lobby bathroom earlier today would have done the same courtesy.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: That's my bad, Joe. I don't know.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Is it the weekend crew? What's going on here? There's
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: like paper towels rolling out of the bathroom into the lobby.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: What was going on here this weekend?
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: What do these people eat?
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what kind of food.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Were y'all ordering while working weekends? It was Tampa Tammy
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: trash in the bathroom.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: Oh, God. Tampa Tammy.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: I guess doesn't work till Wednesday, but is that going
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: to be a miserable experience, Bone?
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: We're already talking about making sure we have security at
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: the window.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: You should hide the security.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: This woman is in our heads. We are terrified for
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: Wednesday morning.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Can we dress up louder as a security guard and say,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: please don't approach this window?
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: At minimum, we're at orange security for this one. Come on.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: All right, Jim Sokey, you may step down. You may
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: step down here.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: See you next week. All right, Soke.