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Cold, Wet & Comfy: Hunting Apparel Tested on the Fly · DuckFellas Podcast

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Should be live now. You should really put your Duckfellas logo on there while we're starting.
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On where? On the screen? It is on there. No, I mean like the whole thing.
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Like how you do your outro?
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I don't have a picture for it though.
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Mm-hmm. Trying to see if it's actually... There we are.
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Let's get into it. I think we're the only people in here right now.
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Well, there was just me on there. Now it's just Kate.
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Can you hear it decent? Mine's for Rose. Oh, now it's back.
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Loud? It's good. Good enough. I added my volume crank, though, in it.
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Went straight in my ear hole. I'm sure we can see comments.
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Yeah, just one of you guys leaked the comments up. Can you see if I don't know?
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There's my bar in the way. And I think some comments will pop up,
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too. They all should. Yeah.
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Let's kick this thing off.
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Welcome to the Duckfellas Podcast. Your weekly dose of waterfowl wisdom,
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blind banter, and hunting stories that might just be mostly true. Hosted by Tyler Cade.
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That was one of the hardest things I did. That really royally botched me up doing that. Oh, man.
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Well, here we are. The delay is real, huh? Yeah, it's terrible.
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Yeah. I was trying to listen to the music as we're doing that,
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but the delay and me talking and the music, I was lost.
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We could tell. Yeah. It happens. We'll figure that out later on.
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What did Chad say? Get to work. Nah, fuck that. We ain't doing this.
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Well, I guess we can jump into how the hunting was this past week,
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which was awful. Hot garbage. Absolute dog shit. Yeah.
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But we ended it tonight on a decent note.
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Decent. It wasn't a burner, but it was a decent hunt. Which reminds me,
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we still have birds to clean. No.
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I don't want to do that. Not good. This was supposed to start an hour ago And
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here we are At least we're only an hour late Yeah, no, that's not bad Make a progress,
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The way it initially started with this mixer I thought,
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I didn't know if we were even going to make it to this point tonight But here
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we are We started off strong with no cords to hook the mics up So that was a strong start Yeah,
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yeah But thanks to the Cornfield Confidential For
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donating a cord for the night For the night We got
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lucky we got lucky they had a podcaster down yeah
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that worked out well what's
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the topic this week a waterfall gear and apparel yep yeah
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well let's uh i mean jump into
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that we'll just go straight into gear i think that'll be our strong point to
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start with everybody's got their own opinions on what kind of gear they like
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and it's very biased i mean everybody has one that they really like and then
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there's also the people that are ready to fight somebody over wearing the wrong I'm Gere,
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a.k.a. Cade. Hey, listen here, bud.
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I'm not fighting anybody over what they wear. I don't give a shit.
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Always getting mad, making fun of me. I just got to give you shit for your sick of butt plug.
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It's nice. It's fuzzy.
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Nice and warm. So what's your go-to apparel for your everyday gear you're going to wear?
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Which guy, Pookie? You. Oh, me? Yeah, let's start with you. Me.
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Don't be putting Pookie on the spotlight right now. He's nervous as shit right
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now. He's probably shitting his pants next to me. I'm so fucking scared right now.
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Honestly, as long as it's warm and when it's raining, I don't get wet like I did the other day.
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I don't give a shit what it is. I like a decent sweatshirt and a warm vest and I'm usually good to go.
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You got pretty wet the other day. Dude, I got soaked. It didn't help that my
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nice little drake coat that I got thrown up on the sunflower,
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and the top of it got melted, so it was no longer waterproof.
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It just went straight down my back onto my sweatshirt. It was not good.
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Yeah, that was one of the worst things, is being wet, sitting there, no heater.
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Yeah, no heater. Because the propane ran out. I feel like that's a common theme
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with you. No heaters. You know what? I had a busy night that night.
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Okay? Allegedly. Hey, no phones. It's family time. It's nothing. Fuck you.
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Put it down. We're trying to accomplish something here. What are we going to
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accomplish? What about you?
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Me? Let's hear it. The everyday go-to for Tyler.
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I used to like the Under Armour gear back when they first started coming out
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with their waterfowl gear and their waterfowl line.
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I loved their line of gear they had. It was really warm, really waterproof.
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It held up good. I had a, you know those pullover jackets that had a hood on
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them and like a quarter zip? I wore that thing for years and it only reason
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I got rid of it was because I got too fat for it. Checks out.
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Was that like 45 years ago or 30? Close enough.
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But now, I mean, I really didn't, I was not wanting to get said kid gear for the longest time.
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I talked shit on it for a long time, just as Cade does now because he doesn't own any.
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I don't so much talk shit on it. I just don't want to spend the money on it.
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Like you're saying right now.
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Yeah. Well, I didn't want to do that either. And I, I broke down and I think
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the first thing I bought was like the Dakota hoodie.
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And since then I've acquired a shitload more, but I will say the other day in
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that rain, I was completely dry wearing my Hudson jacket. Yeah, I was not.
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I was worried that I was wet on my sleeves and I took the coat off to take a
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piss and I'm like, you know, we're good. We're dry. Gucci.
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Still no heat, though. No heat. No heat. I was not cold, though.
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Yeah, I was fine. I bet not. You were dry. I was fine, too, because I was also
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dry. The two guys that were prepared for the rain that day were dry.
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Well, you see, I thought I was prepared, and then I saw that jacket when I went
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to leave home, and I was like, shit, this is not good.
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It's still better than just a sweatshirt, though. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, poor Zach.
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Yeah, that's rough. What an idiot. I mean, I've been there before where you're
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just wearing a sweatshirt when it's raining or snowing, about halfway through
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the hunt, you're like, all right, I'm ready to go home.
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Like, this just sucks. I'm not having a good time at all. Unless you're killing
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birds, because then it doesn't really matter at all. Right.
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Yeah, but six times out of 10, we have a heater. And I say six times out of 10, legitimately.
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Why don't we have it the other four out of 10 times? Because somebody forgets
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the damn propane. I can't remember everything.
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It's all right. It's not like we ever offer our propane or anything. You just.
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You didn't offer it the other day. It's not like. When you were busy getting
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hammered at your Christmas.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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I still made it that time. We were good to go. You made it. Yeah,
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I was there. You were not doing good.
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No, you were rough. Yeah, the first couple hours were.
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Were slightly rough on me for sure. It doesn't help that that thick of fog will
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make you feel hungover even when you're not hungover.
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And then you add a hangover on top of that and it's, I was really surprised
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you didn't vomit everywhere. Yeah, no, I'm good.
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I mean, if we could have got going fast on the boat ride too where you could
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have got that cold air to your face, that always helps me get over a hangover like that. For sure.
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But it was, like you said, so foggy and the ice that there was no going fast that morning.
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Yeah, no. So the multiple waters and Cade's Mountain Ops that I drank really
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just put me over the top. I was ready to go.
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Other than the fact that you had to go pee like every five minutes.
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Yeah, that's normal, though.
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Yeah. And there is that. Yeah, there is quite a bit of truth to that.
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But, I mean, when you drink that much water, that's just bound to happen.
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So what's your, what kind of gear do you like? What's your go-to gear?
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Oh man, I wear a hodgepodge of stuff.
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Final approach, base layer, top, Roger's pants, whatever hunting socks my family decides to get me.
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Love them for that. They restocked me on that this Christmas.
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I just recently started getting into the Sitka game. I will say I did talk a
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lot of shit on it, and I really have not been cold since I got it.
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So I have ate my words in that aspect of it. Like, I mean, I'll take it.
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I know it's expensive, but I hate being cold, so I'll just, I'll pay that price.
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I was in the same boat as you for a long time, and now Kate is the only one
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left in that boat all by himself floating away.
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I'll make it over to the good world sometimes.
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She's going to win the lottery first. Yeah.
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Or just sell that race car. Not happening. Not yet.
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No, we have to have something to do during the summertime. That's true.
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If I didn't have that thing, what would you talk shit about for the other eight
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months of the year that we're not hunting? I could find something. Yeah, I'm sure.
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I'm pretty creative on that aspect of things. That is fair. There's plenty.
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One thing I didn't mention in my gear, though, is like the base layers.
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I still use those Under Armour base layers. I think we talked about it the other day, the 2.0, 3.0.
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I think I have a pair of threes and fours is what I have.
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Oh, God. You should never own a pair of fours. No. Well, I owned them when I
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lived in North Dakota and I worked up there. Fair enough.
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Those things will roast you out of them. Yeah.
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To me, those are the best base layers I've wore to date. Yeah.
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I mean, I think that covers like the base layers and the jackets,
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but with one hot topic for the waterfowl world is waders. I mean...
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There is major differences in waders nowadays between favoritism.
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You got the Shen waders. You got Sitka waders.
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You got Drake's got some pretty good pairs of waders out there nowadays.
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Rogers has got a full line. You got Dive Bomb, which I think are basically Sitkas.
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And they look almost the exact same.
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You got the Cabela's and Bass Pro brands.
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First Light's got waders now, too. Yeah. I think Kuyu has waders.
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Kuyu does have waders, yeah. I won't buy any KU stuff anymore,
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though, after the last statement that guy put out there. That's fair.
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There's all kinds of them. I've owned a little bit of everything.
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I've owned a pair of Drakes, Rogers.
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I have a pair of Sitkas now. I have a pair of Cabela's right now because my
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Sitka's league. Both pairs.
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You have Cabela's too, right? Yeah. Pookie's in the Rich Man's Club now.
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He's got the Waiters. Yeah, first full season with him.
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And I will say going from a set of neoprene with 600 gram boots to what I have
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now, huge difference. I don't know if you guys have heard me complain about
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having cold feet once this year.
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I don't think I have. No. I mean, it really hasn't been that cold other than
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like the last little bit of season.
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Right. Yeah. We had a couple cold days like sprinkled in there and then the
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last couple of days that we've been in them.
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But I mean, honestly, my feet didn't get cold those days either.
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It wasn't just that I wasn't saying anything, which is a huge difference from
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last year because I feel like that's all you guys had to hear about was how cold my feet were and I'm,
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so happy to not be in that boat anymore. Now, do you guys know,
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does Cabela still allow you to bring your waders in every year?
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That used to be the thing we used to do all the time when I was a kid.
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We'd take our waders in after season every year and say, oh,
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these leak and get a brand new pair.
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I think they have a limit now on how many times you can do it per...
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So they keep track of that now? Yeah.
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Okay. So before, I didn't even have a receipt. I'd just take them in and say,
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oh, these leak and they'd just give me a brand new pair.
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I want to say it's like three times per purchase of waders that you can do that.
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That's still pretty good though yeah i mean that's three years
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that's not bad at all that backup pair i
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just bought for 220 bucks the boots are
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actually fairly comfortable i was very surprised by that
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and the waders aren't bad i mean they're definitely not as warm as the sitka
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gore-tex is but i mean they'll do i mean they'll do in a pinch they'll get you
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by are those just so one size fits all yeah so yeah they don't have like the
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medium large i think they have stouts yeah Yeah, they do. Oh, okay.
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Gotcha. But they don't have like the small, medium, large like Cicados.
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Like your other brands do. Gotcha.
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The thing I like about mine too is, I don't know if yours has it or not. Probably not.
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But mine's got a drawstring on top that I can tighten the top of that thing
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up. I don't think mine has that. You want to talk about staying warm,
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dude? You crank that thing down.
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Did I get ripped off? I think you did. It's probably just because mine are insulated.
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Because you got all that money. Oh, fuck.
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Watch out. I mean I had to go cheap I couldn't afford them,
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Good lord I think it's Because mine are insulated And yours aren't Oh yeah That
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probably is If you got the insulated ones though You would die Yeah no probably
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I mean I'm plenty I was plenty warm This past week and a half Of goose hunting
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In the Cabela's brand That I bought.
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I will say, I don't know. I've heard mixed reviews on Divebomb's warranties on how well they cover.
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But Sitka, I've sent a pair in almost every year other than the past two years.
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And they've given me a new pair for free. They've replaced my boots every time I've sent waiters in.
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They've either patched or fixed leaky spots that I didn't know leaked and all kinds of stuff.
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I mean, for me, it's been pretty easy to deal with them.
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I know guys have had horror stories out there, but I haven't had any bad luck with them.
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Yeah that's what you pay for when you buy sick of
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waiters is the ability to get them fixed or get new
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ones all the time trying to get them for you know a new
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pair every year or fixed for free I mean that's if
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you think about it that's the only logical way to spend a thousand dollars plus
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on a set of waiters is if they actually have the customer service to fix them
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and make it right yeah I think I so I think I paid 800 for each pair I have
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and I bought I had the marsh ones for like four or five years.
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I still got them today, but I bought the timber pair after that fourth year
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or so of using those ones, and then I got them back from Sitka, and they leaked.
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That was the first time I've sent something back, and they came back leaking
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worse, I'm pretty sure, than when I sent them in.
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So I bought another pair, and now those timber pairs leak this year.
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I want to say this is the second full season. It could be the third,
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but it's at least the second, and they're leaking now.
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So I got to send both of them. I think it has to be the third on those timber
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pairs, because they were definitely not new.
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Last year No I know they weren't New last year.
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I'm saying this would be the third season. Yeah, the third full season. You're right. Yeah.
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Which isn't bad. I know it's hard for you. All right.
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Sorry that I'm a busy person. I don't just sit in a squad car all day and do
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nothing. That's crazy, dude.
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Wow. I make fun of these guys one time, and then that's what we get.
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Listen, Linda, writing window tent tickets can't be that hard. All right. I get it.
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Yeah. Let's get off of my work and what I do and go back to talking about the
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real reason that we're here boy what would that be waterfowl gear and apparel oh okay.
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You guys got anything else you want to add for waders? Ones that don't leak,
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preferably. Yeah. Yeah, no, those are nice.
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Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, like, regardless of what you're wearing,
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if it keeps the water off you like it's supposed to, like...
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I will say, I was not a fan of the Rogers waders. I didn't like the way the boots fit.
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And when I called them after they leaked within the first, like,
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month of using them, they just gave me the middle finger and told me to fuck
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off, basically. That's tough.
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I see Matt says he likes his shins. i've
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never personally wore them only thing i don't like about them is the
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cuffs on the boots and every time you get in the boat you drag a gallon of water
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per boot into the boat yeah absolutely i daniel wears those tideweeds that has
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the same boot design as those shins and it was kind of funny like every single
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time he'd get back in the boat he would like stand on the pod,
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and like pull out that cuff just so all that water would drain out but i have
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heard that those shins are super, super comfortable, though.
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I've heard that, too. But it's also from Delta guys, and they usually get them
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at discounted rates. That's fair.
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So I've never met anybody personally and talked to him personally that has bought
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a pair of shins full price and not got it for a discounted rate.
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People can be very biased when they're getting stuff for a discount.
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Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, who wouldn't?
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The boot cuffs, their actual function is damn nice, though.
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They're a pain in the ass, but when you're in some ripping water and you got
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a little extra weight down there, funny. Yeah, no, makes sense. I get that.
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About a gallon of water every time you get out of the lake sucks.
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Yeah, I mean, luckily, we don't have to really hardly ever stand in water.
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We have that luxury, but.
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What about these boots that everybody wears nowadays, like these Rover boots
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or, I mean, like the Dye Bomb shoes? and what do you guys think about all that stuff?
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I know I do not like just like the rubber boot version personally, just the look of them.
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Because I would want to be able to wear it day in and day out and if I'm wanting
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something that's going to keep waterproof, I just get something that's going
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to be a knee boot and be done with it.
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But what are your guys' thoughts on those? Because those are a big thing nowadays.
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Everybody wants to wear. You are, bud. Don't look at me. Alright, that's fine.
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No, I was very skeptical at first to even get them because I didn't know how much,
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I didn't know how much I would use them and how much I'd like
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them now that I've had them for a couple months and I
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just have a cheap knockoff Amazon brand
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of them I think they were like 30 bucks on there and I absolutely love them
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like I will forever at least have some brand of these boots with me at all times
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like I I would almost go out on a limb and say that I wear these boots every single day.
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Like, whether I'm taking out the trash or running to Casey's.
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I always wear them. I definitely wear mine daily too. And I, I'm with you, Tyler.
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You look like an absolute douchebag when you wear them. But the fact that my
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feet don't get wet, no matter what, I don't really care.
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I bought the Sitka ones when they went on sale. Weird. Back in November when
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we were in North Dakota. Yeah.
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And I will say that like, they don't look like a typical mud,
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like the ankle boots or whatever, like they're out now.
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I love them. Like they're, they're, They were a little tight around the ankles
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at first where they rub you a little bit, but once you break them in after about
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two weeks of wearing them, I think they're awesome.
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And my feet stay dry up in water that's over top the regular foot part.
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Yeah, over top of your toes. Yeah.
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Rankin's just going hard for us tonight. Yeah, he is. I really appreciate that about him.
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$35 on the TikTok shop. I'm surprised that he could take a break from shooting
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them city geese to combat for us.
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Dude it's a full time job probably shooting all their bands yeah it is has to
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be has to be we killed nine geese we're not mad just jealous yeah we killed
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nine geese tonight and I we landed probably what 15 or 20 there at the end yeah
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and I did not see a single band on any of those no not one,
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I just don't have that kind of luck. And everybody gives me shit for being on
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a lucky year of shooting bands.
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Everybody says it every time I go. 35. I shoot a band. Jeez.
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I haven't even seen 35 bands in my life.
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What else we got for gear? Or apparel? Guns.
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Apparel. Well, that's gear. I meant to say apparel. I got to gear.
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Okay, well, that's not what you said, so. Oh.
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I said gear, then I changed it to apparel. Gotcha. Anyways. What else do we
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got for apparel here? Anything? We're going to move on to gear.
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I'm trying to think. Yeah, no, I mean. I mean, apparel, we got our hoodies out there.
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If anybody's wanting a hoodie, we still have some, no 2X left, but we can get them.
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We got some 3X, we got some large, and we got some extra large.
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We're running pretty low on the large and XLs, but we got some 3X available.
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For all you honey bun bandits out there yeah that's right fit Tyler here in
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the next year or so alright let's not get carried away Mr.
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Fatty over there with all the snacks everyday dogs gotta eat bud not everybody
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can have a metabolism that runs that mock Jesus I think he is shitting it out like a rabbit good lord.
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Well, let's just go on the gear. I mean, I'm going to start with goose flags
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because that's been one for us that has been a challenge through the years.
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It doesn't matter if it's a cheap one or a decent one.
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It doesn't seem like they last a full season and the little stems of the arms break. Yep.
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This year, I broke down and spent the money on the dive bomb flag,
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which I did not want to do that.
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I had been fighting myself for doing that for the past three years,
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I think, two, three years. Yeah, because you love Dive Bomb, right?
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No, I do not. Their duck decoys suck.
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That they do. It actually is really nice. It's a little brand new.
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It's a little hard to get it to lock open and closed.
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But now that we've been using it for a week and a half here,
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it's really broken and it works really well.
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But goose flags are a big thing you use for goose hunting.
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It's one of the main things. I think the only goose flag I've ever bought is
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that like $19 goose flag that Bass Pro and Shields and Cabela's.
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Yeah, but didn't you get way cheaper on Amazon a couple years ago?
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I did, yeah. And then, of course, inflation.
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You followed all that up, but I just like the flexibility in that flag. It's all the tariffs.
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Yeah, yeah. And how easy that flag is to run.
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I think that it looks super lifelike when you're using it.
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Matt says if we're flagging, we're in the wrong spot. But I believe we are just
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running traffic and probably flagging geese trying to get them to come in. Crazy.
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When you don't hunt next to Casey's in Ankeny, like you got to work for your birds. God damn.
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No, it's that dive bomb flags held up good too. And then them cheap flags,
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like the Avery's I think is what, or no Northern flight is the one that I had in my body.
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Yeah. I go through two of those a year when I'm goose hunting. Oh yeah.
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Easy. And then the dive bomb flags nice for in the boat. That was,
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it works out great for the boat. That's the real reason I wanted it.
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Yeah. To be able to pop it open and then collapse it. And that way you don't
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just have an entire flag laying on top of the boat helps.
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Yeah. I think that you see that shit whenever they're either laying out in the
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open in a field or on top of the boat.
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I mean, on top of the boat, it's a big black spot. Right. Yeah.
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I had a badass. I actually found it at Bass Pro. I was really shocked.
23:47
It was like that fabric that is on your dive bomb flag, but it was the same.
23:52
Like you had the arms that you put in the top piece and it had the strap on it.
23:56
That thing lasted like three years
23:59
and then i don't know where the hell it went gone gonzo
24:03
but the worst part about the fabric like the the soft fabric ones those little
24:08
arms poke through every time yeah that's and that's my biggest problem with
24:12
them yeah and you can glue them and make it work for a little bit but it ain't
24:17
gonna last long yeah one one windy day and that things were roasted. Yeah.
24:22
That's how I broke mine in North Dakota.
24:25
Yeah. That day that the wind was ripping and it just popped the rivet out of it. Yeah.
24:32
Yeah, I mean, that's one day, like, we were hunting a feed, a pretty big feed,
24:35
and we had to flag geese all the way in, like, the whole way in.
24:38
You were calling fast, loud, and hard at them, and flagged.
24:42
Austin was manning the flag like a G. Yeah.
24:45
Kind of had the same thing today, too. A little bit, yeah. I mean,
24:48
geese, the ones that didn't break down and turn towards us, if they did fly
24:52
over us, like, I'd just reach out and grab it.
24:55
And it ended up working quite a few times, actually. we either got whole groups
25:01
to break off or at least the back couple to break off and give us a look.
25:07
That wind dying off and also not being very much the whole hunt really hurt
25:11
us tonight. If we'd had some wind, it'd have been over for them.
25:15
That big group that we landed, they were kind of skirting off the edge and I'm like, fuck it.
25:20
Grabbed the flag. As soon as I hit that thing, they were like,
25:22
oh, hey, party. Yeah, dude, they were all trying to land next to me on my side
25:26
of the layout line. I'm like, no, you guys need to get overkill.
25:30
Bastards What do we got for gear here What's What's something else We can add to it,
25:34
Pookie wanted guns That's what it is Yeah We can touch on guns I mean we're
25:38
gonna I'm sure we'll talk about Guns and ammo here At an episode coming up But
25:42
we can Kind of touch on what we use We can do that We can do blind bags Oh yeah,
25:48
Yeah blind bags Really shooting at the hip here Because we didn't make a No
25:52
dock today Spreadshot for ourselves Full scent Just coming at you guys live,
25:56
I will say blind bags as long as it has enough room for me to put my snacks in there.
26:01
Dude, you need a bigger blind bag than what you got now. I know.
26:05
You need like a Yeti 65 cooler. I need to just buy another InvisiLab and just fill it full of snacks.
26:13
Snow covers. How do you clean them?
26:16
I don't. Throw in the trash and buy a new one. Yeah, I don't clean it.
26:19
I mean, I might spray it off, but otherwise I just let it be muddy unless it's
26:23
like brand new fresh snow and I need to clean it off.
26:26
I'll try and wash it off in the shower or the tub.
26:29
I've done that before. Otherwise, I just let it be a little dirty.
26:32
I think it looks better when they get a little dirty and used.
26:35
I got so excited there when we actually had snow for like a two week time period.
26:40
And while I was in Michigan, you were able to hunt. Yeah. That was sweet.
26:44
Yeah. And then we just ended up hunting out of an A-frame even that day.
26:48
And I wonder where that A-frame is at.
26:50
In my garage. Yeah. I don't think that's made it back from my house yet.
26:53
Possession's nine tens of the law. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's fine.
26:55
It's his now. It's fine. No, I get it.
26:58
And two dozen of his duck full bodies are in my garage.
27:04
And your spinners are currently in the backseat of my truck.
27:09
I was wondering where the backpack was. I got it. Don't worry.
27:12
They're staying nice and safe. I
27:14
take them inside every night so they stay warm. No, you don't. Yes, I do.
27:19
So while we're on snow covers, we can just go ahead and hit layout blinds because
27:22
we've got all kinds of different layout blinds we use. Yeah.
27:25
Yeah. You guys go ahead and start off with what you use. I will start for sure
27:29
because it royally pisses me off, especially when it's cold.
27:33
The Tangle Free Blinds.
27:37
Are great except for the fact that they have pins. If they didn't have pins,
27:42
they would be the best blind on the market. There's plenty of room.
27:46
The covers on them seem like they're pretty legit. I've never had one rip or tear.
27:51
But the fact that it has pins and they are so fucking tight that it is ungodly
27:56
hard to get the pins in there. It sucks.
27:58
At least you can leave yours together. Yes, that is true. Thank God that is
28:03
true that we have the luxury to just put them in the in the trailer.
28:07
But when I put that thing in my little 12-foot boat and go out and sit on the bank. Oh, dude. No fun.
28:13
There's been a couple days where we had both of our layouts, like two dozen decoys.
28:18
Me, Cade, an old hanker on the 12-footer. That's got to be fun. Western.
28:26
Dumb ways to die. Have you used any other brands other than Tingle Free yourself?
28:31
I had an old, just a, it was a redhead brand back when it was just Bass Pro, not. Bass Pro Cabela's.
28:39
That thing lasted like six years, dude. I couldn't believe it.
28:42
Really? But it was the same thing. It had the pin system. It was a pain in the ass.
28:46
See, I liked, we used to have the Final Approaches back when Jeff was a big part of Final Approach.
28:52
I used to love that signature series that he had with Final Approach.
28:56
Super roomy, and I think it was also a pin design, which sucked, but it is what it is.
29:02
I mean, when it's cold, those pins are next to impossible to get in.
29:06
You just got to take your gloves off and just suck it up.
29:09
I've sat in one of your Dakotas too. Like very comfortable.
29:13
They were a lot more comfortable when they were new, but they're getting old now.
29:17
They're probably seven or eight years old now. Seven for sure.
29:21
Seven. And if not more, probably going to, I have two of those Alps.
29:27
I think there's zero gravity blinds or whatever. I'm probably going to get rid
29:30
of those and sell those after this season and buy two more of the Dakotas.
29:35
I need to look into it. I don't think they've changed much on them.
29:38
As long as they're not the pin system and they're still that same style they
29:42
are now. I mean, you can set that blind up in 10 seconds. It's awesome.
29:47
It's kind of like the old Hitman, I think. Yeah. Very similar design to that.
29:51
Well, that goes into another thing. would you guys rather have
29:54
camo layout blinds or solid color
29:57
like what do you think is easier to brush in and conceal
30:01
i'd rather have a solid color yeah same i mean the camo
30:04
is whatever i'm gonna mud it anyways and it's gonna be damn near
30:07
a solid color so in all
30:10
honesty i don't think it matters because by the time you brush your
30:13
blind in or you put a snow cover on it you're not gonna see the
30:16
camo on it or the color on it now the solid color i
30:19
think if you get i don't like that khaki color they come
30:21
out with like my one of my helps blind is like that khaki yeah
30:25
that lighter brown i think it's a little too bright like the
30:27
dark like a brown i think is just fine because yeah it
30:30
just looks like the dirt below you yeah basically yeah i don't i don't see why
30:34
camo matters i don't think so either like you said you're gonna mud it anyway
30:39
yeah it's gonna be brown yeah and if you brush your blind in anyway it's like
30:44
in all reality you don't see a whole lot of it.
30:48
I don't like to see any of my blind when I put brush on it. I want to just see
30:51
the corn or the grass or whatever we're using to cover up that day.
30:55
Because I get worried the geese are going to see that little fabric and freak out.
31:01
Geese are just stingy that way. I hate geese. Honestly, I really hate geese.
31:06
God, but when they do it right, it's so pretty.
31:09
It's all right. It's nice. No, today when that group was dropping down and those
31:15
mallards were with him too, I'm like, wow, this is really cool.
31:19
Yeah. Or that single that about took your head off today. Yeah.
31:23
You probably could have just knocked it out of there with your gun.
31:25
I don't know why you had to shoot it. Well, I kind of thought about it.
31:27
When I first popped out of my blind, I'm like, well, if I shoot this thing,
31:31
it's going to look like that clip off the Dukes of Hazzard.
31:34
When he's got those whammy shells, that's what that goose was going to look
31:37
like if I would have shot him.
31:39
Straight off my foot bag there. So I let him fly behind me before I shot him,
31:44
you know, just to make sure that we still had something left.
31:48
Fair enough. Yeah, that thing was at like four feet.
31:51
You did not have much more time to shoot it before. I was almost positioned
31:54
to get a shot off, and I know Cade was getting real close too.
31:57
We both had to flip all the way over. For you being left-handed,
31:59
it's a little bit easier to make that turnaround.
32:01
Oh yeah, I could just pretty much roll right over my blind there.
32:06
I was just letting him get more than five feet away from me.
32:10
I was regretting eating all those little Debbie Christmas trees this year trying
32:13
to get rolled over in that stupid layout blind to shoot that thing.
32:17
Yeah. Well, that and you're like 60, so your bones gotta get all popped and
32:21
cracked before you get over. I bet you hope you look this good when you're 60.
32:26
It's hard for an old man. Difficult, dude. Every day getting out of bed is a task.
32:31
I get it. You don't. Yeah. No, you don't. I'm close. No, you're not.
32:35
All right. Not even close at all.
32:38
What else we got? Well, we never did really talk much about the blind bags.
32:42
I mean, I know, I think we have like, they're the same style blind bag. Yeah.
32:48
I mean, they're the exact same basically, but yours is Shields Outfitters.
32:52
Yeah. And mine's a Tingle Free.
32:54
But like we got the big three compartment blind bag and that thing is awesome.
33:00
Yeah. But it's not awesome for hunting in the field. No, it sucks. Yeah.
33:05
I have the exact same style as well, too. If you can fit it. You don't. Yeah, it is.
33:09
Oh, you do. I thought you had the smaller style. That's new and dork. Yeah.
33:15
Yeah. Now, if you can fit our style, like if you can have the wherewithal to
33:20
put it behind your seat, like first thing before you really start getting stuff
33:25
in there, like it, it does work out. All right.
33:29
But if you forget and that's the last thing you do, you might as well just plan
33:33
on brushing that thing in behind your blind because once you get everything
33:38
situated in there, there's no way. No.
33:41
I used to have a hardcore layout blind bag and I still have it.
33:45
I just don't know where it's at now.
33:46
Like everything else I have. I was going to say, you lose everything.
33:49
I got too much shit and it's all scattered.
33:52
Well, I bet one of your buddies just grabbed it from your trailer and never
33:55
brought it back. That's a real possibility.
33:58
It's a real possibility. But it was like a single row blind
34:01
bag and it fit perfectly in the in the layout blind
34:04
next to me i could put it right right next to me and it wasn't in
34:07
the way and get open it and get your shells and all
34:10
that stuff but i mean i'm not the boat i just have the
34:12
biggest blind bag i can have possible doesn't matter i can carry a case of shells in
34:15
case we have a really bad shooting day which it happens yeah
34:19
yeah no it does but i'll be i'll be interested to
34:22
see once that backpack style comes in oh
34:26
did you order it so no he didn't no i
34:29
did i did order it actually and then rogers
34:32
came back and said that it was out of stock actually so
34:36
it's on backorder really currently so
34:39
what brand was i think rig them
34:42
right i'm i'm pretty sure it's a rig them right the lowdown bag so i just like
34:51
backpack style being able to have it over my shoulders and everything keep my
34:56
hands free for the rest of the stuff that makes sense i mean And you're a big Dora the Explorer guy.
35:01
I was just getting ready to say, I wish he didn't already have the nickname
35:03
Pookie because we call him Dora. Backpack, backpack.
35:08
Yeah.
35:10
Yeah, I know there's plenty of more gear out there to talk about.
35:14
I mean, we'll touch on guns a little bit. I mean, I've always shot Winchester
35:18
and Browning, but now I've got the X2, X3, X4, and then I've got the Super X pump.
35:25
You now have an X4, right? X4 hybrid and a Remington 1100.
35:31
What's the hybrid difference? I don't know. Oh, that's just what it is.
35:35
I think that the only difference in it is that like my receiver and barrel are
35:42
the only, they're Cerakoted in the flat color.
35:47
And then just my foregrip and stock are camo.
35:51
So it's just the difference in variances of camo where like yours are completely the same.
35:58
Yeah. It's all one pattern instead of that different color. Makes sense.
36:03
Yeah. Shoot the old trusty 1187.
36:06
She's never let me down. That thing's a beast. And you can't get the choke tube
36:11
out of it, so you're stuck shooting anyways.
36:13
Yeah, it's stuck. That's why I got to shoot him at 60.
36:18
Yeah. Nothing close for Cade. Nope. No. If they're within 20 yards,
36:22
I might as well throw a rock.
36:24
Every once in a while, I get a wild hare and bring out the Ted Williams.
36:28
You know, if I think that the blind is lacking some color of shells on it,
36:33
And then I bring out the purple shells and we break out the 16 gauge.
36:37
You know, we just found a purple shell on that jet sled. I know.
36:39
Yeah. I heard. I heard about it. What'd you say about that?
36:42
Oh, I think some gay boy was around here. Yeah.
36:46
Something like that. That thing's sweet though. That gun's older than me.
36:49
Like it. It's great. It's not staying much.
36:53
What are you, like, 17 now? Yes, just turned.
36:58
Well, you're going to jail. You're drinking on camera. Mm. Mm. Cut your permission.
37:06
Well, shit. I'm with Dad, so it should be fine.
37:11
No, no, it's not. All right. We'll go ahead and get the cops on their way in
37:15
a little bit. Yep. We'll finish this out first, and then we'll get the cops coming.
37:19
What else we got for gear and apparel? We got all kinds of gear. I mean.
37:25
What about dog blinds? That's what I was just getting right there.
37:27
I just looked at Hank's blind sitting there.
37:29
I mean. We've got the same blinds now for our dogs. Yeah.
37:33
Ellie's always had that Momosh blind that I use in the field or in the water if I have to.
37:38
Which is very rare that I ever have to walk in. But unless I'm on out of state.
37:42
Yeah, we did use it once last year with her too. In that little back pocket. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
37:49
She's not a big fan of it. She definitely prefers to be in the boat.
37:52
But she would much prefer that over standing in the water like she had to in Michigan.
37:56
She was not a fan of that. Hank has done that like four different times.
38:01
And just from him standing in the water, he wears out so bad.
38:05
Totally not worth just having the dog stand in the water. That thing is worth its money 10 times over.
38:12
I want one for the fields. I want one that has the door that I can open and close.
38:18
So that way I can run the dog in the field more.
38:22
And not worry about the dog breaking and getting shot on a hunt.
38:26
Like I'm most of the time we're hunting with all of us close friends where we
38:30
don't got to worry about that.
38:31
But you never know in any kind of circumstance when an accident could happen
38:35
because accidents are accidents. So, right.
38:39
I would like to have like one of those Dakotas or just a custom made one with
38:43
a door on it with the spring latch where we could run the dogs in the fields.
38:47
And days like today where we're killing one or two here and there,
38:50
we can let the dogs do their thing and have fun. Yeah.
38:53
Instead of sitting at the house going, Ellie was very mad at me today when I
38:57
left without her. Yeah. Yeah. Hank was pissed.
39:00
He was pissed when I got home. He knew it was up. Yeah. I'm sure he'd be really
39:04
mad if he knew that we actually killed geese today too.
39:06
He walked straight to the tailgate of my truck and was like, you motherfuckers.
39:15
I love how you're just looking around for anything you can find.
39:18
I had all kinds of ideas for gear the other day when I made the Google Doc,
39:22
but it was like 10 o'clock at night when I changed it over from episode eight
39:25
to nine. I didn't write any of it down. Right.
39:29
And God forbid anybody else do anything. No, that's wild.
39:33
No, never. No, Kate usually does a pretty good job of starting the Google doc.
39:36
And I mean, Austin will fill stuff in. And then Kate usually comes in and deletes
39:39
everything we put in and puts his own stuff in.
39:41
It's just kind of like, honestly been a wild week though. Like just.
39:45
Well, between us trying to get this set up to do, start doing live streams,
39:50
which we plan on doing more often now.
39:53
Right. Yeah. I mean, at least hopefully every week, at least when we're together
39:58
for sure. Yeah. like when we're all together for sure.
40:01
But we've all got cameras now, good cameras, where we can have good quality video.
40:05
We just got to get Austin to buy a decent mic instead of one off of Timu.
40:09
Maybe some internet. I'll work on that. Maybe some internet that's also not
40:13
off Timu. Yeah, not Timu internet.
40:15
I don't know what's up with that. I don't know. It's so crazy because it's so
40:18
fast and then it'll just cut out for like five minutes.
40:21
It doesn't make any sense. And then it just pops back up like nothing happened.
40:26
You don't live that far away from where we're at right now. and it's the same company.
40:30
No, we definitely have the same internet. We've already talked about this. I don't understand.
40:35
They came and replaced my router and everything without me even having to contact them.
40:41
I don't get it. It's a work in progress with it.
40:45
I mean, it is better than it was before for sure, but we'll see what we can't
40:50
get figured out and just go from there, I guess.
40:55
Right. One thing I wanted to touch on while we're here,
40:58
This goose season, we've really noticed the bird flu hitting us pretty hard around here.
41:03
I know it's kind of off topic, but we're in the middle of goose season here,
41:07
and right at the heart of it.
41:10
The first day I got home, we hunted the river. It was wild, the amount of geese
41:14
we've seen floating down the river dead.
41:16
Or the geese we see on the sandbars or wherever on the lake,
41:20
too. Just bobbing their head, doing circles, just roasting.
41:24
I mean, it's been every day, but today. Well, there was one in the field that had.
41:28
When I first pulled in. Oh, nice. Okay, so every day that we've hunted,
41:32
we've seen at least one. Yep.
41:34
And there's two in the cove where we hunted yesterday, or the day before,
41:39
still standing on the ice right now, going, oh, I wish we could fly away.
41:43
Yeah, no, honestly, it's really a sad thing to see.
41:47
I was kind of hopeful when a lot of water opened back up that it would keep
41:53
geese spread out, but we got this cold snap again, so that'll get them back
41:58
congregated and that makes me a little nervous.
42:01
I wonder what, because a buddy of ours brought it up to me, it doesn't seem
42:06
like you hear about the bird flu in Canada or on the tundra.
42:10
It doesn't seem like you hear about it near as bad as you do here in the States.
42:13
I wonder why that is or if it's just less people see it up there and you don't hear about it as much.
42:20
Yeah, it's a lot more open area, I guess. We have a lot more towns and little
42:24
cities and all that kind of shit. Or you could drive for God knows how long
42:29
and not see another person in Canada.
42:30
I think we've also drove. They used to be more congregated and ducks in general
42:35
too. Yeah. In the States than they do in Canada.
42:38
And obviously once they get dipped in Tundra, there's nobody there.
42:44
No, they're definitely pressured into being more congregated,
42:47
especially around here.
42:51
I wish there was something we could do about it, prevent it,
42:53
but I don't think there's anything.
42:55
I mean, unless it's something kind of farming practice or something that we're
42:58
putting in our waters that's causing it or whatever, however it may be.
43:02
But I don't see what else you can do to prevent it.
43:07
Yeah, that's about the only thing you can do to look at the difference between the U.S.
43:11
And Canada to see if they have different restrictions on what they can put in their fields.
43:17
Probably narrow it down pretty quick. Yeah. Definitely could.
43:20
I mean, we pump a lot of shit in our ground. Yeah.
43:23
I mean, I wish they would quit putting as much stuff in the ground and let,
43:27
for like the pheasants, quit killing all the natural grass and stuff off that,
43:33
grows between the crops normally.
43:34
But obviously, they won't get as high of a yield. So that's why they do it.
43:39
Money makes the world go around. Just the cost of doing business. Yeah.
43:44
Well I mean So what's our plans for this week Coming up I know it's New Years,
43:49
Are we going to get wet and wild this week On New Years or are we going to go
43:53
hunting I'm going hunting,
43:56
Every afternoon After work I hope Oh yeah you got to work every morning so you
44:01
can't get Wet and wild on New Years Eve and New Years I'm back to work at 05
44:05
starting tomorrow For the next five days so,
44:10
Oh poor guy Are you going to make it?
44:13
It's been a long time since I've had to work five days straight.
44:16
That's a lot. Yeah. Yeah.
44:19
So. Oh, damn. I'll report back next week on our podcast. Maybe.
44:25
I hope. He might be dead. Yeah, I don't know. You never know. You never know.
44:31
Well, I plan on hunting. I know tomorrow I won't hunt. More than likely I won't hunt tomorrow.
44:37
I'm going to go, where are we going to hunt? I don't know.
44:40
What the heck are you going to do all day? Why don't you go find some geese
44:43
to hunt in the afternoon?
44:44
Oh, damn. I'm going to scout in the morning, and then I have to get stuff out
44:49
of the house, get that cleaned up a little bit.
44:51
I suppose that checks out. I could scout in the evening, or we could hunt the
44:54
same field again tomorrow afternoon, which is a possibility.
44:59
Or I just scout tomorrow morning and evening, figure out kind of the general
45:03
idea of what geese are doing now that we're mostly froze back up in the normal
45:07
areas we're mostly frozen. percent.
45:10
And go from there. Yeah. Because I think we're going to have people coming up
45:15
Thursday sometime, it sounds like.
45:18
So they'll be here, I'm guessing Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
45:20
So I got to get some good fields lined up for them.
45:23
They like to come up every year for this.
45:25
Normally it's the last weekend of Central Zone, but this year they're coming up early.
45:30
I talked them into it, which looking at how many geese we have right now congregated
45:34
in this one area, not good.
45:38
Less geese than I've ever seen before for this time of year.
45:42
But stuff is just now starting to refreeze too. So I do think that we will continue
45:48
to see more and more birds over the next couple days, at least around home here.
45:53
I haven't ventured out very far either for scouting. I mean,
45:55
we've just stayed in our normal little square that we hunt in here.
45:59
I mean, there's plenty of geese in that square to kill if you can get access
46:03
in the fields that they're feeding in.
46:04
Right. but I think if I go farther up I can find access find birds I wouldn't
46:10
be too worried about it at this point,
46:13
not good are you I'm working every day but you're going to hunt every evening
46:19
if you find something for us to hunt I'm going to hunt every evening I think
46:24
Cade's going to hunt Thursday,
46:27
as long as you don't got to you don't got to work Thursday Thursday and get
46:31
back to work you'll be down to hunt Friday morning,
46:35
depends if they want to get their shit done tomorrow,
46:39
well hopefully you just get everything done tomorrow and you don't gotta worry
46:42
about it yeah that'd be sweet that'd be awesome that'd be ideal yeah more than ideal.
46:48
I mean, has anybody else got anything they want to add while we're still here?
46:52
If not, I mean, I don't see a whole lot more to really touch on on this subject. No.
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I don't think so. I think we're good. You think so?
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Does Rankin think so? That's the most important part. He's probably not here
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anymore. It's way past his bedtime. You think I'm old?
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That dude's like 75. He's still out here grinding, though.
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No, he's killing bands. Yeah. He hasn't slowed down nearly as much as you have.
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That's kind of fucked up let's wrap it up that's kind of fucked up I'm gonna
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do this without being able to hear the music so this is gonna be kind of fucked
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up it's gonna be interesting.