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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow morning for Tuesday, September twenty sixth. I'm your host,
- 0:03tom Or. The Maryland game is in eleven days, the game MCATs
- 0:07Michigan in sixty days. We're not going to talk about any of those games.
- 0:11Let's be honest. We see we get to talk a little bit more
- 0:14about that Ohio State seventeen Notre Dame fourteen game that you saw on Saturday night
- 0:18in South Bend. Tony Gertiman and I did two plus hours of postgame coverage.
- 0:24There was another hour before that, but with everything that happened, there
- 0:29was so much to talk about that there was a bunch of stuff that just
- 0:32kind of fell through the cracks. And there, I mean, you're gonna
- 0:34hear us talk about five different storylines here that kind of fell through the cracks
- 0:37to one degree or another, and there's some really big stuff here. So
- 0:40we wanted to kind of circle back, do a little bit of due diligence
- 0:44and house cleading here, housekeeping here, to make sure we're honoring every every
- 0:49one of these storylines that really should be talked about. Because again with the
- 0:54Ryan Day postgame press conference, the dramatic end of the game. There was
- 0:57a lot that you could figure her about from the first fifty nine minutes and
- 1:00thirty seconds or so of that game. So we're gonna start talking about that
- 1:03stuff. I'm gonna do that with our buddy, Tony gardmant puckheabl dot com.
- 1:07He was there covering the game, asked Ryan da question about first guy
- 1:11we're gonna be talking about. In fact, after that game, Tony,
- 1:14we got to talk about chip Train him because yes, he's the guy who
- 1:17apparently is keeping Ryan Day loose during pregame. He is also the guy who
- 1:21scored the winning touchdown. But I think we really need to kind of go
- 1:25back even further back to chip Train him in high school and what happened to
- 1:30him after high school, you know, and he's you know, he's sort
- 1:33of finally there was there was a long and winding road that led him to
- 1:36that moment in the just just barely across the goal line in Notre Dame Stadium.
- 1:42Yeah, chip Train him just a kid from Akron and wanted to uh,
- 1:47you know, wanted to be a running back in college. Ohio State
- 1:49kind of liked him Moore as a linebacker, so he took his talents to
- 1:55Arizona State, where he played quite a bit the first two years there and
- 2:00then decided, you know what, it's probably time to come back home.
- 2:02And Ohio State brought him in as a linebacker last year. There's a bunch
- 2:07of talk about him, how how athletic he was, you know during camp
- 2:10last year, and the speed and the athleticism and just the the willingness to
- 2:17do whatever. And then late in the season they needed him at running back
- 2:24and he was there and he played. He was the guy against Michigan.
- 2:29And then coming into this season, Tom we were you know what, is
- 2:32he the third or fourth running back in the mix, right, you know,
- 2:36because you've got Trevion Henderson, You've got Mine Williams, You've got DLin
- 2:40Hayden, like you've got all of these guys that played last year. And
- 2:45then he was just he was just an extra, like you know, like
- 2:49when you you buy furniture and they're there are extra pieces that come with,
- 2:53you know, like two extra bolts and some extra nuts and that sort of
- 2:57thing. He was like an extra. But he has been instrumental in the
- 3:00what Ohio State has done this year, and it's you know, Trevi and
- 3:06Henderson is they start running back. But when the team needed that one yard,
- 3:13they went to a guy who came to Ohio State to play linebacker.
- 3:17Yeah, and a guy who Ohio State, what four years ago, didn't
- 3:22think was an Ohio State running back necessarily, or at least that wasn't his
- 3:25best option. So yeah, that that is. You know, those are
- 3:29always such interesting stories to me because you come out of high school and a
- 3:32lot of times the program knows best and and you know, Lorenzo Styles junior
- 3:37coming out of high school wanted to play receiver. Ohio State said you're maybe
- 3:39more than are more of a corner, and he went to Notre Dame and
- 3:43played wide receiver for a couple of years. Now back at Ohio State and
- 3:46playing corner. So you know, you will have times where it ends up
- 3:50with you know, the school was right. Maybe coming out of the gate,
- 3:53Kip Crane and may have may have been onto something there when he when
- 3:58he thought maybe I can play running back Ohio State turns out, yahah,
- 4:00he can. Someone else who probably had a pretty good idea what he was
- 4:05coming out of high school and took a little bit of a long and winding
- 4:09path to get there, is Xavier Johnson. He came out of the Cincinnati
- 4:13area, had Power five offers. He had an offer from from Iowa State,
- 4:16for example, to be a scholarship football player, passed up that to
- 4:20come be a walk on for Urban Meyer at Ohio State. It was not
- 4:26a direct and easy route from there to what happened on Saturday night or what
- 4:30happened last year against Notre Dame. But I mean Xavier Johnson to go from
- 4:35walk on to all of the accolades he's received and then some of the moments
- 4:40he's had, especially against Notre Dame in the last couple of years, that
- 4:43is quite a story. Yeah, And he may be the best story of
- 4:46anybody on this Ohio State football team to show up to Ohio State walk on
- 4:53as basically an athlete, and he started out as a corner, played running
- 4:57back, played receiver, back to running back, back to RECEI ever and
- 5:00has done whatever and you know, throw kickoff returning there, throw kick coverage
- 5:05in there, has done whatever the team has asked him to do. And
- 5:10you know, going into last year looking like he was going to have a
- 5:13role in the passing game as a receiver. And I remember talking to running
- 5:15backs coach Tony Alfred saying, you know what would happen if you went to
- 5:20Xavier Johnson knowing that him knowing that he's going to have a role and as
- 5:25in the receiver rotation, and you said, Xavier, we need you in
- 5:29the running back room in case somebody gets hurt, or because somebody has gotten
- 5:32hurt. We just need you for depth. And he said that. Xavier
- 5:35would say, what do you need me? What can I do? Let's
- 5:38meet after practice. I'll come to your house. We'll talk, We'll talk
- 5:42it over, show me the playbook, things like that in terms of assignments,
- 5:46and then lo and behold, two months later, that's exactly what happened.
- 5:49And he stepped in and we saw him against Michigan, we saw him
- 5:51against George. I like just being involved in any way he can, and
- 5:59that has carried into this season now where they can put him wherever they want
- 6:03and they'll get something out of him. So it's it's a fantastic story culminated
- 6:08by wearing the block O jersey this year, being given that honor and just
- 6:12one of the nicest guys that we've ever dealt with covering the Ohio State beat
- 6:15at the time that we've all done in from from twenty eighteen when he arrived
- 6:20until now, Like, it's it's pretty remarkable that he's been able to do
- 6:26so much, and not that he's done a lot, but he's he's been
- 6:30involved in a lot of things and is also now an Ohio State captain as
- 6:32well. Yeah, the Bloco captain. And you know he's not he's not
- 6:38going to end up in the top ten of career rushing yards or receiving euros
- 6:42or anything like that in Ohio State history. But you know he's, you
- 6:46know, a smarter version of Forrest Gump wor boy. He just keeps popping
- 6:48up in these big situations where, oh, crucial second half touchdown against Notre
- 6:53Dame in twenty twenty one, crucial touchdown against Georgia in the Peach Bowl last
- 6:57year, huge play that you know, if Ohio had scored on their penultimate
- 7:00drive against Notre Dame. Boy, that's another one that goes down in history
- 7:03as it was, it just ends up sort of being a footnote. But
- 7:06yeah, he is. He has had some crucial, crucial moments and earned
- 7:11every single one of those accolades that's that he's gotten. Next up, a
- 7:15guy who is you know, came to a high state in the more traditional
- 7:17route, highly ranked linebacker out of Jersey City, New Jersey, Cody Simon.
- 7:23He has been you know, I mean, he's stuck behind a couple
- 7:27of very other talented linebacker Steal Chambers in Tommy Eickenberger in the depth chart.
- 7:30But then he ended up making one of the crucial plays in Saturday's game.
- 7:34But his mistake was making it way too early in the game, and by
- 7:38the time of the game ended, everyone had forgotten about the fact that Cody
- 7:40Simon stopped Sam Hartman on fourth and one at the OSU eighteen on the very
- 7:46first drive of the game for Notre Dame Irish had driven fourteen plays, seventy
- 7:49one yards taken, eight minutes off the clock. They're in the red zone
- 7:54and then Cody Simon comes up and sticks Sam Hartman just short of the sticks.
- 7:58It was initially ruled a first down, got overturned on replay. That's
- 8:01one of those plays, Tony, that you know, we did I think
- 8:05two hours of postgame and I don't I don't know if we actually mentioned that
- 8:09play because there was so much other stuff that happened. But man, oh
- 8:11man, if they if Notre Dame picks up a first down and scores a
- 8:16touchdown or even kicks a field goal there, that changes the complexion of that
- 8:20game completely. Yeah, and it was a remarkable play by Simon who was
- 8:24basically being taken down the field by a fullback and then had to fight off
- 8:28that block to come and pick up Sam Hartman before he could actually cross the
- 8:33line. And based on the way that Hartman was holding the ball, I
- 8:37was actually a little surprised they went and reviewed it, and then even more
- 8:41surprised that they decided to overturn it. Not that not that they were wrong
- 8:45in doing that, It's just it's one of those close calls that usually they
- 8:48just give the benefit to the runner. But to go back and look at
- 8:50it, and I think they had enough angles that you could see the Cody
- 8:54Simon got there, and yeah, he's another story. He played quite a
- 8:58bit in this game. Was oddly substituting with I think Davison beenosing at times
- 9:03a quarterback. When Notre Dame would come out with just one wide receiver,
- 9:07they'd take a quarter off field. They're sigment out there, and you know
- 9:09this is another guy who in twenty twenty one, started nine games at linebacker
- 9:15for Ohio States, started most of the season for them, and then gave
- 9:18way in the middle to Tommy Eikenbergnet has worked out well, and you know,
- 9:22when Simon has been healthy, he's been pretty good. And this is
- 9:26another guy that provides death and provides that third linebacker four games like this when
- 9:33they're going up against more of a power attack. But yeah, that play
- 9:35was definitely was impressive. Just going back and rewatching it to refresh, like,
- 9:41what player are you even talking about? Tom You know, there's only
- 9:43maybe you know, like sixty plays on defense or whatever. And that happened
- 9:48so far in the past that you forget just how big it was because that
- 9:52drive was taking forever. Who knows how much longer that drive would have taken
- 9:54if Notre Dame picks up that first down. Yeah, and for a defense
- 9:58that was to guess, by the end of the game, not having those
- 10:03extra whatever five plays or whatever it would have been plus the points, plus
- 10:07the time it would have kept Ohio State's offense off the field. Yeah,
- 10:09that that ended up being a huge play that got just completely forgotten by the
- 10:15time the game was over. Something else you know another guy who is sort
- 10:18of getting his getting his accolades now. He was just named the Big Ten
- 10:22Defensive Player of the Week. But Lathan Ransom, the safety seven tackles,
- 10:26six assist, thirteen tackles total plus a quarterback hurry. He's another guy who
- 10:33you know, when you play safety, it is very easy to have the
- 10:35one bad moment and then that's all anyone remembers for you. You know,
- 10:39for nine months when you heard Lathan Ransom's name, everyone went, oh,
- 10:43yeah, the guy who slipped and fell down during the Georgia game and they
- 10:46scored a long touchdown. Lathan Ransom has given you a whole something else to
- 10:50think about when you hear his name. Now, that was a fantastic performance
- 10:56from him. And you know, we talked a little bit after the ship,
- 10:58after the game about the fact that when your safeties are leading you in
- 11:01tackles, that's not always a great thing. That's not always a great sign
- 11:05when your safeties are some of your leading tacklers. But man, oh man,
- 11:09did Lathan Ransom have a have a night? You know? And I
- 11:13think one of the reasons why it was maybe okay and this one is because
- 11:16they were tackling closer to the line of scrimmage and Notre Dame is still rush
- 11:20for one hundred and seventy seven yards in that one and it's not great,
- 11:24but they didn't. It wasn't any necessarily any instances where you know your thirty
- 11:28yards downfield you're chasing somebody, And yeah, he was. He was very
- 11:33effective, Lathan Ransom And that one play against Georgia, Like, can you
- 11:37can you fault somebody for getting beaten deep when when you're going up against a
- 11:41ten to one, one hundred meter guy and you slip a little bit,
- 11:46Like you don't need to slip to lose a race to that guy. But
- 11:48that's what happened. And you know, right now, Lathan Ransoman is playing
- 11:52very very well and it maybe a little bit quiet for some people, and
- 11:56maybe this I don't want to mention Jordan Fuller's name and turn of the kind
- 12:00of things that are that are happening for him right now. But he's just
- 12:03been very, very solid and very very physical. There are times when he's
- 12:07come up all throughout the season, including against Notre Dame and hitting like a
- 12:11linebacker and players are staying hit against you know, talented players and it's good
- 12:18to see. And this is a guy who's been around since twenty twenty as
- 12:20a true freshman playing. Ryan Day loved him then, and you don't hear
- 12:24anybody say anything bad about him, And that's another indicator that he's a guy
- 12:28that does whatever has asked, will do whatever has asked. Has played all
- 12:31over in secondary, all three safety spots for the Buckeyes, and maybe out
- 12:35of position at times playing in the slot and early in his career, but
- 12:39it seems to have find a found a home now as strong safety. Yeah,
- 12:43it's always nice when you can say something nice about a position where they
- 12:46typically just get talked about as the guy who did something wrong, you know,
- 12:50rightly or wrongly. Sometimes it's just there's the guy who's chasing on TV.
- 12:52You see them chasing the receiver on TV, and it's like he must
- 12:54have been who on the one who got beat. It's like not always nice
- 12:58to be able to say something. It's like long snappers. No one ever
- 13:01says anything about long snappers unless that something bad happened. So nice to be
- 13:03able to say something nice about a guy who plays a position where a lot
- 13:07of times people point rightly or wrongly at that position and say your fault sometimes
- 13:13not always last up. I wanted to talk about someone from Notre Dame.
- 13:18Now this is a name that it believed very familiar to Ohio State fans,
- 13:20but Javonte John Baptiste. He was a defensive end for Ohio State starting in
- 13:24twenty eighteen. He spent forever, it felt like, trying to get up
- 13:30to wait. He came in very very undersized. Remember talking to him about,
- 13:33you know, having to eat eight thousand calories or something like that,
- 13:35trying to get his weight up and how difficult it was for him to get
- 13:39up to wait. And he was just sort of always a role player for
- 13:41Ohio State and you saw him. He would get starts when they went back
- 13:45to his home state of Rutgers, and that was kind of it. And
- 13:48then you'd, you know, he'd be a rotational player. But that was
- 13:52more or less his role at Ohio State. He has gone to Notre Dame
- 13:56and he has turned himself into an impact defensive end for the Irish. Eight
- 14:01tackles on Saturday night, one quarterback hurry. That was you know, that
- 14:05was one of those you look at those numbers, you look at his play
- 14:07and It's like, you know what good for him that that is something that
- 14:11is that deserves deserves and accolades as well. Yeah, his name was being
- 14:15mentioned constantly on the public address you know, just involved. And I'm pretty
- 14:20sure he tipped the first pass of the last drive to Trevian Henderson. That's
- 14:26why it was so off and just yeah, that was an impressive performance by
- 14:31him. I think personally, maybe I was some would say maybe a little
- 14:35dismissive of the impact that he would have coming into this game. But he
- 14:39proved me wrong. And you know, he was certainly playing to prove a
- 14:41lot of people wrong on the Ohio State sideline. But after the game,
- 14:46watching the portions of the television broadcast over saw him, saw Javonte John baptisque
- 14:52with I believe running backs coach Tony Alfred after afterwards, big hug there,
- 14:56and and Ryan Day after his postgame press or his postgame television into you turn
- 15:00around and there's Davante John Baptiste and you know, gave him a hug as
- 15:03well. So some guys happy to see him on what was a really good
- 15:05game for him but also quite obviously a tough loss. Yeah, and you
- 15:11know, it's it's nice to see the transfer portal has been pretty good to
- 15:13Ohio State over the years. With a quarterback from Georgia, with an offensive
- 15:18lineman from Rutgers. I mean, they have pulled some real running back from
- 15:22Arizona State, as we talked about earlier in the show, they have pulled
- 15:26a few real pieces of gold out of the transfer portal. It is nice
- 15:31to see when guys who are at Ohio State. There was a quarterback who
- 15:33went down to LSU a few years ago who worked out pretty well, a
- 15:37wide receiver who went to Alabama, and now a defensive end going to Notre
- 15:41Dame. It's nice to see those guys get a chance to succeed wherever it
- 15:45ends up being. So I hope you guys enjoyed that. I'm sure everyone's
- 15:48not quite ready to let that Notre Dame game go, and I guess we'll
- 15:50probably be talking about it a little more this week. Good news, we
- 15:52have a little extra time to look back at that because there is no game
- 15:56coming up on Saturday, so I have a little more time to go look
- 16:00back at that. I'm sure we'll have Ross Fulton on later in the week
- 16:02to talk about some of it, but make sure you also are checking out
- 16:04all of our other podcasts. Tony and I do the Buckeye Weekly podcast.
- 16:08The Michigan Monday episode going to be delayed until Tuesday. I know you can't
- 16:11wait to hear about that thrilling Rutgers game. May may end up talking a
- 16:15little bit of Penn State too, because there's only so much you can talk
- 16:18about about Michigan State Rutgers or sorry, Michigan Rutgers. We'll be talking about
- 16:22that on Tuesday. We'll have plenty of coverage to our rewatch episode of the
- 16:26game. I'm so interested to rewatch this game because I still like, feel
- 16:30like we did two shows now talking about that game, and there's still a
- 16:33bunch of stuff that I'm feeling. I'm going to watch the game and go,
- 16:37oh, yeah that happened and get a different angle on things. So
- 16:40we'll have that all coming up this week on the Buckeye Weekly podcast feed,
- 16:42and of course you can also find us at buckkeeyehuddle dot com. Have plenty
- 16:47of plenty of stuff going on, plenty of stuff to talk about this week
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