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Almost Famous In Depth: Peter Kraus · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous in Depth. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: everybody at the Almost Famous Family, if you heard last
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  Speaker 1: week's episode, we asked you to go out and review
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  Speaker 1: and comment on the podcast on iTunes. Actually, I want
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  Speaker 1: to hear from you. We want to hear your opinions,
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  Speaker 1: your support. So if you appreciate this podcast, and you
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  Speaker 1: appreciate Ashley or myself or probably just actually please comment
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  Speaker 1: and rate our podcast on iTunes. Hey, Ashley, it's time.
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  Speaker 1: We've been been doing a lot of these. It's been
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  Speaker 1: really awesome. During the break. We've been sitting down with
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  Speaker 1: some of Bachelor Nation's favorites, some people that you haven't
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  Speaker 1: heard from in a while, some people who have you've
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  Speaker 1: you know, heard from from the last season. We've been
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  Speaker 1: doing these in depth episodes as many as we can.
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  Speaker 1: And Sophia wrote in the and she said to us
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  Speaker 1: next in depth idea. The email reads really enjoyed the
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  Speaker 1: in Depth podcast with Peter and Hannah am I would
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  Speaker 1: like to see if you can get Peter Krauss on
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  Speaker 1: the in Depth podcast. I feel like no one really
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  Speaker 1: knows where and who he is. So we've heard you,
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  Speaker 1: We've responded, and as a result, actually I want to
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  Speaker 1: welcome Peter Krause. Hello, Hello, thanks for having me, Peter.
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  Speaker 1: We like to start out asking everyone about their home
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  Speaker 1: life as a kid. So tell us about your family
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  Speaker 1: and where you grew up and what kind of click
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  Speaker 1: you ran with. We're going way back right. Oh my upbring,
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  Speaker 1: so I mean born and raised in Madison, Wisconsin. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I grew up in a time, a little home and cute,
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  Speaker 1: a little called the Sack. Parents bought it with, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the little money they had. I think it was like
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  Speaker 1: when they bought it something like that, a little place,
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  Speaker 1: and honestly it was probably the most exciting and fun
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  Speaker 1: and it's like outdoor, energetic kind of upbringing I could
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  Speaker 1: have if we got bored and outside. I mean it
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  Speaker 1: was January negative five degrees out and my mom was
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  Speaker 1: putting vasiline on our faces because we were staying outside too.
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  Speaker 1: So like my mom was always into arts and crafts
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  Speaker 1: and um exploring the countryside, and my my dad worked
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  Speaker 1: a ton, so we'd see him at night. We would
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  Speaker 1: always sit down for a nice family dinner and stuff
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  Speaker 1: when we could. But upbringing itself as all about the neighbors,
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  Speaker 1: the kids, the community that we built in this little
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  Speaker 1: neighbor of ours, and we're always in someone's basement megan
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  Speaker 1: sports or playing Mario party or something like that. It
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  Speaker 1: was just a really fun, exciting upbringing. I got an
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  Speaker 1: older brother. He uh, he made sure to let me
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  Speaker 1: know that I was the younger brother plenty of times.
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  Speaker 1: How would you pretty good? When did you decide in
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  Speaker 1: at a young age that you were a cheesehead? The
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  Speaker 1: why that? I was actually a forty Niners fan for
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  Speaker 1: right twelve years. Well, so, at the time it was
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  Speaker 1: Steve Young, and before that it was Joe Montana. There
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  Speaker 1: like star quarterbacks and Jerry Rice and Gary and Hearst
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  Speaker 1: and all these amazing players that played for them. And
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  Speaker 1: my dad was a huge Packers fan, and as a
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  Speaker 1: young kid, I wanted to rebel. So I'm gonna pick
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  Speaker 1: the best team there is outside of the Backers, So
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  Speaker 1: I pick the forty Niners. And then as I grew
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  Speaker 1: up and got close from my dad and saw kind
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  Speaker 1: of the passion that he had for and really started
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  Speaker 1: to follow his path, I realized how passionate he was
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  Speaker 1: about the Packers, and I think that that's where the
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  Speaker 1: love for the team came from. When I was about twelve, thirteen,
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  Speaker 1: and then now it's oh my god, it's a die
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  Speaker 1: hard Packer fan. Now I go to every game I can.
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  Speaker 1: I'm around probably like four or five different games around
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  Speaker 1: the country around the year, like away games. Just yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a fan. Now, let's go back to your high school.
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  Speaker 1: If you were to tell your high school self and
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  Speaker 1: your high school friends that you were going to be
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  Speaker 1: like one of the biggest heart throbs of the Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: franchise one day, what would they think about that? Well,
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  Speaker 1: according to my yearbook, they'd all believe me. I guess,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Explain. So I don't remember doing this,
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  Speaker 1: but when I was a senior, you know how we
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  Speaker 1: have like senior quotes, right, Yeah, mine was to be
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  Speaker 1: on The Bachelor someday. Of all things. Granted, like at
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  Speaker 1: the time, I had to go to a shaved head,
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  Speaker 1: I wore like massive fake diamond earrings, I had like
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  Speaker 1: Polo and fubou and like air Force ones on all
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  Speaker 1: the time. I was completely different person. But apparently that
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  Speaker 1: was my aspiration as a senior in high school. It
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  Speaker 1: was to be on the elaborated that a little bit
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  Speaker 1: for us. So do you mean you can go back? Yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: tell us more about this. And three, I think was
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  Speaker 1: the first season of The Bachelor, and every girl in
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  Speaker 1: school was talking about it. And I had never had
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  Speaker 1: a girlfriend. I never kissed a girl. Um, it was
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  Speaker 1: just kind of like a normal dude to hanging in
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  Speaker 1: the background, and I saw all the attention that this handsome,
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  Speaker 1: successful guy I got and all the girls wanted to
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  Speaker 1: talk about and wanted to be around, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I want to be that guy some day too, So
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  Speaker 1: that it's the only thing good thing. I honestly don't
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  Speaker 1: remember writing it, but I did, and now it's out
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  Speaker 1: there for everybody to stay forever. Okay, so what year
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  Speaker 1: to do? Graduate? I grad year after yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Well that's why it was my senior quote. It's like
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  Speaker 1: it was on the top of everybody's minds at the time.
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  Speaker 1: Were you watching the show along with all the girls
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  Speaker 1: in school? So I've never actually seen a season of
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  Speaker 1: the show until my first well, mind, I should say hours,
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  Speaker 1: How do you wanna call it? Really? So you never so, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna stay in high school for a bit, but
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  Speaker 1: this is something here. Um, you even through high school,
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  Speaker 1: you just heard the rumors about what the show was
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  Speaker 1: doing and you said, hey, I want a little love too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sure you got a little hate for that,
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  Speaker 1: like a little heat probably from the public for writing that.
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  Speaker 1: They thought, you know, your intentions were wrong and your
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  Speaker 1: response would be what Well. So it was after the
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  Speaker 1: airing of Rachel's season that I was on on and
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  Speaker 1: I got a text from a friend that was a
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  Speaker 1: year ahead of me in high school and she said,
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  Speaker 1: do you know that this is out there? I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: who photoshop? This is? Why is someone trying to throw
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  Speaker 1: me in the bus like that? And it's like, I
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  Speaker 1: text another buddy because I was in Los Angeles at
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  Speaker 1: the time. I said, do you have your yearbook? And
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  Speaker 1: he said, yeah, somewhere down there in the basement. So
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  Speaker 1: he went and checked and sure, there was so weird.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have that yearbook now at your parents? I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure it's at their house somewhere you got down in
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  Speaker 1: storm somewhere in the basement. It was destiny at this
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  Speaker 1: point you believed it. You mentioned that you had never
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  Speaker 1: had your first kiss at that point, So then when
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  Speaker 1: did you have your first kiss? And tell us about it.
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  Speaker 1: My first kiss was the year after well, the summer
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  Speaker 1: after senior year still me too. Me and Peter Krause
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  Speaker 1: both had our first kiss at nineteen. I was well,
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  Speaker 1: I was still eighteen at the time. Whoa, this makes
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  Speaker 1: me feel so much cooler bloomer. I guess, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But then, yeah, once I kissed a girl, was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is what I've been missing. It was great.
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  Speaker 1: Everything else kind of followed suit in the following years
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  Speaker 1: after that. But alright, so once you got you got
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  Speaker 1: rolling with it. I was a fan at that point.
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  Speaker 1: Now what do you think held you back? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what kept you from kissing until then? I didn't think
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  Speaker 1: any girls were interested in me at that time. I
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  Speaker 1: was kind of like the awkward, pudgy arts kid that like,
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  Speaker 1: I was in the art studio all the time. Um
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to. I went to a private school where
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  Speaker 1: everybody were Abercrombie or American Eagle, and I couldn't afford that,
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  Speaker 1: so I wore about it. A bunch of stuff that
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  Speaker 1: we could get like second hand stores or hand me
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  Speaker 1: down from my brother, and we're a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: that I could I'm sorry to say this, but like
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  Speaker 1: steal off the racks. So it was all like self
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  Speaker 1: pole and Karl can I and Foo Boo and shoot
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of reebox shoes and oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: I had these like Valure onesie suits that were just terrible.
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  Speaker 1: Those are all the rage though, those j Lo suits,
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  Speaker 1: the juicy you could not breathe in them, so like
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  Speaker 1: it got so hot. Oh my god, imagine you guys
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  Speaker 1: listening Peter Krauss in a juicy Vlore sweatsuit in the
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  Speaker 1: early to that knockoff. Yeah, okay, so was all of ours.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah so, I just girls never approached me in high
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  Speaker 1: school or before that, and so it wasn't until late
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  Speaker 1: my senior year I started to get I guess a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of attention from some people. And yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: when my first senior year in high school, but didn't
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  Speaker 1: kiss her, like, there was no kissing or anything that
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  Speaker 1: same my first official date would have probably been ProMED
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't kis him either. I avoided it at
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  Speaker 1: all costs because I didn't want to waste my first
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  Speaker 1: kiss with him. But then I honestly wasted my first
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  Speaker 1: kiss anyway, at the age of nineteen. It was really bad.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully that guy's not listening. He's not. He has absolutely
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  Speaker 1: no idea. He was my first kiss as well. Noum
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  Speaker 1: that kiss does either? Yes? Actually, number now is our
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  Speaker 1: senior party and we all like set up tents out
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  Speaker 1: in the field and there's this girl that I had
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  Speaker 1: a crush on for a while, and I think we
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  Speaker 1: just like kissing our sleeping bag and that was it.
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  Speaker 1: Kiss in a sleeping bag, like hers was there and
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  Speaker 1: mine was here kind of thing. Okay. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: you were zipped up in the same sitting bag, moving fast. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So how did you get from this late bloomer to
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  Speaker 1: model Peter Cross? Oh that's a gap. A gap will
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  Speaker 1: fill in the gap. Yes, all right. So I graduated
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  Speaker 1: high school to jousd and four. I went to school
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  Speaker 1: for just general studies because I couldn't afford me sleep
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  Speaker 1: to go to art school. And so my plan was
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  Speaker 1: to go to local tech school and work my way
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  Speaker 1: into the university and then go for architectural design. And
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  Speaker 1: about halfway through I want to say that degree, I
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  Speaker 1: got dared by a friend, my buddy Matt Jones, dared
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  Speaker 1: me to go into a local um modeling agency, and
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  Speaker 1: so I just walked in there and we had just
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  Speaker 1: eaten all you can eat Chinese buffet. Like I'm talking,
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  Speaker 1: I was not ready for this thing. And much as
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  Speaker 1: I was just starting to grow out my hair, I
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  Speaker 1: was still kind of just pludgy and awkward, kind of
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  Speaker 1: finding myself at the age of nineteen, I want to say.
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  Speaker 1: And I walked in there, I said, tell you what,
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  Speaker 1: why don't we start you up with a test shoot.
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  Speaker 1: Come back in a week or two and we'll do
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  Speaker 1: a test shoot, see how things go. And I looked at,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, the pictures are so bad. I was
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  Speaker 1: wearing like pink polo pop collar. I had like a
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  Speaker 1: size forty six suit on and I wear a forty
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  Speaker 1: or forty two. Like it was just all so bad.
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  Speaker 1: But they they saw something that I didn't even see
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  Speaker 1: myself at the time and asked me to do a
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  Speaker 1: professional shootdown for that, And so it just kind of
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  Speaker 1: started the career. Interestly. I mean, one of the things
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  Speaker 1: that uh, you know you're known for, uh coming off
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  Speaker 1: of Rachel's season is the gaffe tooth uh And obviously
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  Speaker 1: at that point you have kept it. Um was it
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  Speaker 1: was it a conscious decision? I mean, even going into
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  Speaker 1: being a model, was it a conscious decision to keep
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  Speaker 1: this as a child? What led you to to kind
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  Speaker 1: of rocket. I thought you meant after Oh no, no no,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna replace that. You're gonna feel it. No no, no.
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  Speaker 1: So growing up, I never knew it was a thing
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  Speaker 1: that was abnormal. I guess I never saw it as, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I have gaffeeth mm hmm. So like my my dad
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  Speaker 1: has it, my brother has it, my grandma had it,
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  Speaker 1: my aunt, my great aunt had it. So it was
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  Speaker 1: just the family traits whatever, but he had It's what
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  Speaker 1: you're known for. I mean, people love it, like and
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  Speaker 1: they should, but like, it's it's what you're known for. Really,
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  Speaker 1: so many celebrities. I never really noticed or thought about
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  Speaker 1: having a gap teeth until prior around the show that,
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  Speaker 1: like I really started to notice, So this is not
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  Speaker 1: a normal thing. Like I always knew I had a
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  Speaker 1: gap between my teeth and we like make fun of
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  Speaker 1: it with my buddies and stuff, But I never knew
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  Speaker 1: it was as rare as apparently it is. And so
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  Speaker 1: when people really started to pointing out in the show,
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  Speaker 1: and Rachel obviously had a gap as well, it was
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  Speaker 1: something to talk about kind of bond over. If you
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  Speaker 1: filled in your gap, it would be like if um,
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  Speaker 1: it would be like Jennifer Gray when she's getting a
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  Speaker 1: nose job. It just it would ruin everything. There's a
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  Speaker 1: s I don't think it would require braces otherwise I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna have two really big front teeth. Do you guys
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  Speaker 1: think that? Like, do you remember going on the show
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  Speaker 1: for the first time and having people say things about
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  Speaker 1: you and that you like and it was like a shock,
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  Speaker 1: Like you never knew it was wrong with you until
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  Speaker 1: it's amplified from a show and everybody picks apart every look,
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  Speaker 1: every physical feature, every like speech impediment you have. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I've realized so many things that I don't do that
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  Speaker 1: quote unquote normal or that it is regular because of
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  Speaker 1: the show. One thing that I I don't like to
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  Speaker 1: bring up, but it's kind of hard not to, is
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  Speaker 1: I never realized the amount of negativity out there. I
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  Speaker 1: have so many fun, exciting, kind, generous people in my
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  Speaker 1: life that when I went on to the show, I
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  Speaker 1: really realized for the first time how negative awful people
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  Speaker 1: could be. And so all those comments really come to
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  Speaker 1: a shock when you see that for the first time
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  Speaker 1: and people are saying like, Oh, you're boring, your stupid,
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  Speaker 1: your family, Is this your that I was floored by it,
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  Speaker 1: and now it's unfortunate that now it's like second nature.
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  Speaker 1: And I think all of us I can probably speak
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  Speaker 1: for when I say, is you just kind of rolled it?
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  Speaker 1: You're you're told to like just brush it off like
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  Speaker 1: it's not even there. Do you remember any comments that
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  Speaker 1: specifically you would get a lot and that would really
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  Speaker 1: affect you, Oh, everything. I'm a sensitive person and so
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  Speaker 1: and I'm also like a perfectionist in too many ways
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  Speaker 1: where I took to heart too many things I think
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  Speaker 1: that I heard, which is probably a big part of
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  Speaker 1: why I didn't necessarily want to be a part of
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  Speaker 1: everything again and took me a long time to I
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  Speaker 1: want to potentially be back in the franchise or even
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  Speaker 1: consider the thought, Yeah, what about I mean you guys. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: so when we met in Vegas, I didn't know much
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  Speaker 1: about you yet at that point, but then everybody told
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  Speaker 1: me when I said that I met you, they brought
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  Speaker 1: up the crying you were known. I was like, what,
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  Speaker 1: she's so sweet, thank you. Yeah, I know, it's like
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  Speaker 1: shockingly she doesn't cry that much. And just a regular
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  Speaker 1: social setting, what's it's It's like, once you go on
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  Speaker 1: the show, people will pick out this one trait and
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  Speaker 1: that becomes you, Well, what was your trait? You think
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  Speaker 1: I won't say the gattief. I don't think I have
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  Speaker 1: anything A personality trait, yeah, but I don't even think
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  Speaker 1: there was anything. I was just like the nice guy
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  Speaker 1: from the Midwest and that that was it. You gotta
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  Speaker 1: remember remember a lot of people being very fond of you,
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  Speaker 1: like as a as a contestant back then, like you were.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you every season has them right that Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Cameron's the Peter Crosses like you guys would be in
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  Speaker 1: the same like arena when it comes to the conversation
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  Speaker 1: of hey, you're the good looking guy who wouldn't end
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  Speaker 1: up with the girl who we all hope, you know,
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  Speaker 1: would become the Bachelor, which you know, kind of catapults
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  Speaker 1: us into the season of your life that we know
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  Speaker 1: you from, which is being on the back Starette Rachel
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  Speaker 1: Lindsay season to the Bacharette. How did you get there?
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  Speaker 1: So at the time I was working here in town.
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  Speaker 1: I own an in home personal training business, and a
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  Speaker 1: couple of clients of mine recommended I try and There's
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  Speaker 1: They were fans of the show and said that they
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  Speaker 1: think I'd be successful or enjoy it and it would
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  Speaker 1: be a good experience for me. So I said, screwt it?
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  Speaker 1: Why not? So I looked into it and you had
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  Speaker 1: to simply some like a single picture, and I think,
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  Speaker 1: like a quick little bio. So I sent that, and
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  Speaker 1: then a couple of weeks later I got an email,
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  Speaker 1: I want to say, or maybe a phone call, and
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  Speaker 1: they asked for like an extended version of it. So
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  Speaker 1: they're like, all right, now we need like ten or
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  Speaker 1: twenty pictures plus a longer bio all these questions that
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  Speaker 1: they asked. And I love that you admit that you
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  Speaker 1: are the one that submitted yourself. I feel like there's
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  Speaker 1: so few guys that are like, oh, yeah, I signed
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  Speaker 1: myself up. Everybody's like, oh I was nominated, I was nominated.
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  Speaker 1: I signed myself up. Ben, I don't remember you were
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  Speaker 1: nominated that kind of I like, did it alongside of him?
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  Speaker 1: So she was like coming to my office, can you
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  Speaker 1: sit down beside me? And who signed you? The marketing
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  Speaker 1: director at my company at the time. So she came
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  Speaker 1: to my desk and said, hey, there's a casting call
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  Speaker 1: in Denver. Would you go? And I was like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to a casting call and she's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: if we sign you up, would you help me with it?
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  Speaker 1: And would you respond? And so we went to her office,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: so like I kind of sign myself up. Sweet, yeah, cool, Yeah,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: you submit yourself. Oh yeah, I submitted myself with the
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: most elaborate audition tape you'll ever seen in your life.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: You can go on my Instagram. I put it up
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: a couple of months ago. I think it really is.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Here's what's funny is I hear everybody's processes, and like
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I think Dean when he went on, he was picked
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: up by like a friend from the show a week
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: before taping started or something like that. Yeah, who sent
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: him to Amy? Because our producer Amy was the one
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: that put his audition right in front of their faces.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Even tapes sending like an audition tape wasn't until like
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth step for me. Oh, I think
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: it's is a little different for everyone. I sent in
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: my audition tape the first thing, along with like that
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: whole online questionnaire and stuff, but I didn't hear from
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: them for nine months, Yeah, which is super weird. I
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: think that I submitted in July, like July, early August,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm thinking that they it was they were either
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: fully castid for the next season or they didn't want
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: me on Wa Pablo season because we would not have
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: like I would have been eliminated night one. I'm on
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: public season. I think was Ben your Bachelor? No no, no no,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: no crystals? Okay, that would have been really funny. Wouldn't
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: that be funny? I've been on my Bachelor. I'm super weird. Okay,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: So tell us more about your audition process. When did
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: you finally meet with the casting producers and how did
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: you leave feeling? Oh? Yeah, I think I did like
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: a skype kind of call first. If I did that
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: like extended, Um, what's gonna call it audition? How do
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: you wanna call it? Like bio? I met them in Chicago.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: That was my first one on one meeting, and that
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: went really well. I mean, everybody's super nice. I'll never forget.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: They gave me a Bachelor tope bag and a Bachelor
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: pen and a T shirt. I remember those. Yeah, I
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: still have my like no way, well, at least if
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I don't get picked, I've got these. Did they give
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: you that big Manila envelope with it? I don't think so.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: What was that? Oh, that's like they're like, hide this
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: under your shirt as you leave, because that means that
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: you're on to the next level. And they don't want
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: to show off to the other people in line that
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: you have it. No, you didn't. I never got that really,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: so they knew with you right away. They're like, this
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: girl is good. Put her on. I'm wondering why that
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: was all different. No, So like, yeah, Chicago is the
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: first one on one and then I think maybe like
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: two months later, they flew me out to l A.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: And we were put up in a hotel out by
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: the airport, and you know, you get to talking to
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: some of the producers at that time or just people
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: that are helping out, and it sounded like there's probably
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: a hundred guys in there or something like that. Through
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the interview process of each one of them face to face,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: you'd go in and that was the first time that
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I met alone and Bennett and the whole crew and
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: bat down next to me for the first time. We're like,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: who is this guy? Like is he just here to
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: shoot this and give me some jokes and you're just
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: picking me apart? And then come to find out, you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: like a month later, he's like the head of the
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: show at the time. Mm hmm. That's trippy. That's funny
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: because when I saw a Lan, I knew that he
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: was the executive producer because I had a friend who
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: had met him and she was like, he's the biggest
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: character you're ever going to meet. Make sure that you
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: impress him. So and I saw him in that room
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: of twenty or so producers. I was looking straight at
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: him and I was like, I gotta make this guy laugh. Now,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Lucky married and then he married me. He embarrassed, you know,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: he married us. He was our officient. No, I didn't
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, that's fun yea. Well, so, Peter, we
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: go through this whole process. You're obviously liked by the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: cast and crew. We're going to fast forward to your
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: season and you arrive on Rachel Lindsay season of The
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: bachelorat we can you know, walk Ashley and I through
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: that season in your from your perspective, because we could
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: ask you a bunch of questions to put out detail,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: but I think it's just most healthy and helpful if
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you walk us through what you saw. Um, where do
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I start? Night one? Talk about the surrealism that is
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: pulling up in the limo. Oh my god. Well, first
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: it was taking a black car, I guess, from the
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: airport to the hotel. And I think I was still
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: like texting with a producer at that point. I can't
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: remember like super specifics of the names and stuff, but
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I think someone tell me like when you get here, um,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: your phone will be taken from you. And so I'm
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: super nervous and I show up to that hotel and
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: there's nobody there. So I'm just standing the lobby by myself.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Like what do I do? Is I start walking around
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: looking for someone, and I see like a guy working
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: out in the gym, and I see like another guy
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: walking down the hall. And also the producer comes like
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: running around the corners like you can't be here. WHOA.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: So they quick ushered me off my room and took
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: my phone and you like sealed it into a bag,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: and so all right, like settling for the night, enjoy
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: here's the schedule of things that you've been doing our
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: next couple of days. And so fast forward through those days,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: and nerves are building and boredom starting to set as
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: you're there for a few days. And I think it
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: was that like noon or so we had to start
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: getting ready because we're gonna go to the house at
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: like four or five something like that. And you know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I'm a pretty shy, nervous person typically, and so that
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: that was, Oh my god, that just build up of
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: that first like three or four hours and you're getting
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: suited up and we go down into the lobby and
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: that's when I met four of the other guys. It
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: was Josiah Brian Um, what else was in my spot
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: with me? Eric? Maybe there there's like four or five
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: us that were down in the lobby first. And so
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: they put us all on the the limo and just
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: any random order, and we pull up to the bottom
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: of the hill for the house, and that's when they
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: asked us to get out and hang out for a second.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: And that's when I was told that I was gonna
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: be the first one out of the limbo of the
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: entire thing. Is that how it hurt? It was Todd.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Todd told me it was gonna be the first one
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: out of the little Yeah. So at the bottom of
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the driveway there was this like little pop up tent
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and the guy in there a bartend or whatever, and
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I'm starting ripping shots to keep telling the story in
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: this detail. Oh my god, Yes, that was bad. So
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: finally begin in the car and we drive up the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: hill and as you pull up and kind of around
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the corner, you can see Rachel for the first time,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and her dress is all sparkly and her hair is
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: beautiful and the lights are shining on her, and the
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: ground is wet sort things just glistening and gorgeous, and
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you're like, this is so surreal. She's absolutely stunning. Um,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and then I blacked out, like I don't remember anything
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: from that point on. Also, I just like woke up
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: in the house. It's like, all right, well, oh but
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: it's okay. I don't know. Actually, I both have commented
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: many times that blacking out when you came Elmo is
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: very common. Oh yeah, I can imagine. I can't think
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: of one person who's told us. Oh yeah, I remember
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: exactly what happened from like the door of the limo
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: to the door of the house. Oh. I don't even
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: think I was telling myself. I hadn't told her my name.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, I had one job tell her my name,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: and I didn't even do that. In terms out I did.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I did say my name at some point like you can.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: You can be a professional athlete and have a huge
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: event that you trained for all your life and you're ready.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: But something like this, it's like it's one singular event
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: that will never happen again, that's never happened before. There's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: all these nerves leading up to it. There's all the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: pressure leading up to it. Plus you're just trying to
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: meet this person for the first time and develop relationship.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: It was overwhelming, to say the least. It was a
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: surreal experience, for sure. Can you tell our audience how
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: it feels to not get the first impression? Rose? That
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: wasn't too bad? Um, disappointing, but it wasn't terrible because
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people they're like, oh
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: my god, you had not even ten minutes with this person.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: How can you be so heartbroken when you don't get
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: that Rose? And it's bizarre. But it's very very sad
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: because it's basically like, oh, your first impression wasn't good enough. Yeah,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I mean I thought she and I had a really
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: good connection on our first sit down and it was
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: actually longer. I think we talked forb minutes. Yeah, that
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: was good. Um, obviously I want of the first impression roads,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: but I don't think I was too disappointed about it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: There was definitely points later on. I got to some point,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: did you kiss her on that one? Okay, I wasn't
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: even gonna kiss her on our first date. Yeah, I
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, remain a gentleman, and yeah, it
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: just she leaned in for the kiss, and it was
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: the most awkward first kiss because I like, I didn't
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: want her to be the one a lean in for
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the first kiss, but then it was too late and like, well,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna reciproc Kate, and so this is like
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: awkward interaction. But I mean once they kissed her, yeah,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'll definitely kiss again. When did you
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: start feeling like a front runner? Honestly, when we went
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: on our first date, so I was the first one
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: on one day and the very first time we started talking,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I didn't even think about it as that experience anymore.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: It was like she and I connected so quickly as
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: even just like a friendship level. So we had a
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: really unique experience where I guess a lot of times
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: on dates, you meet them at the date spot, you
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: hang out for a couple of hours, you get shipped
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to the next date spot meet them again for a
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: couple of hours, kiss goodnight. She came and picked me up.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I drove the two of us in a Tesla to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: an airport where we got on a plane together, flew
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: to the location, took a limit together to the location,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: and then had our first full day date. And it
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: wasn't until after that that we got put into separate
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: cars to go freshen up, eat all that stuff at
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: a separate location. If we were with together with each
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: other for probably eight hours, I want to say, before
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: we separated for the first time. Um, and then we're
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: together together for probably another like four so hours, I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: want to say, we were together like all day that
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: first day, and the whole time we were together, we
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: never stopped talking. That's amazing. Constant, yeah, constant communication, so
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: much laughter, a lot of fun. We just I mean,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I felt like I was really good friends with her immediately,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and so I never really felt like a front runner.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: It was more like I really enjoyed this person's company,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: and I think we have a really good thing going.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: The problems started for me when also it was eight
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: weeks before I had a date with her again. I
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: was gonna say, an eight hour first date could be
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: very intimidating if you don't have a natural flow and conversation.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying a twenty minute date without is I mean,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I've gone one days where like you just sit there
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: searching for stuff to say and there was never a
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: gap in conversation the entire time. M Well, so it
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: took you eight weeks then to have that next day. Hey, Peter,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: we're going to come back and have you kind of
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: pick it up where you're at with kind of the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: gap in between the first day and second day leading
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: up to then obviously at the end of the show
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and to your life now. Hey, we'll be back with
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Peter Krauss on the in depth episode of the Almost
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Famous podcast. All Right, Peter, so we know when you
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: started to feel like a front runner. When did you
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: start feeling like, oh, man, I'm falling in love with
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: her and I think I may want to end up
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: with her. Because we all know that you didn't feel
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: comfortable getting engaged at the end, and this was something
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: you were very clear with the entire time. But was
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: there a point where you're like, oh, I want to
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: end up with her in the end? And just not
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: propose where do I start. So, yeah, there there was
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: eight weeks between my first date in my second, and
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I think, unfortunately what happened for me during that time,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Like I was so ready to go on my second
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: date with her right away and get to see her again,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: and I got to get little snippets of her here
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: and there. Um, But you know, be completely honest with you, guys,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I've been going to see like a life coach for
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: years now, and more so after the show and all
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: that because of all the emotional tax that it took
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: on my life basically, and uh, come and find out,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: like I have abandonment issues and learning to deal with
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: those throughout life, and the experience itself forced those issues
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: to come to the surface full force. I mean, I
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: developed these really strong feelings for this person right away
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and really enjoy your company. And then you start to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: see other people developing strong relationships with that same person,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: and so my natural instinct is to protect myself a
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: little bit, and so I would just kind of stayed
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: at the back of the crowd. I try not to
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: make two good friends with too many of the guys.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I had my good core group of guys that was
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: really good friends with, but for the most part kind
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: of stuck to myself. Um, when I did see her,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: it was all about her. Every time we went on
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: group dates, I'd give as much attention as I could,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: try to step out of like the back and be
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: up there in front so she could see me and
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: get a lot of one on one connections. Um. But
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: the first really like difficult day I had was we
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: were in Copenhagen. You know, we were in Oslo. We're
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: in Oslo, so the first abroad location that we went to,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: and we went on a group date during the day
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: and it went really really well. And then that night
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: we had our cocktail like ours, whatever you wanna call it,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: and she pulled me aside and we went up to
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: her room and shared like champagne, and um, you know,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: they're filming all this, and she had a hot tub
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: out on a balcony. So we went out in the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: hot tub and had this like awesome moment of like
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: just talking and then made out and it was great.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: And then I go back down and I was like
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: in a relationship with her in my head at that point,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: and she gave the rose to someone else. The date
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: rose to Will that there. I mean, I remember it
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: horror and he was pumped and I was shocked, and
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I think that's where I really realized, like this is
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: a totally different experience, Like I should have watched the
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: show beforehand. Looking back at that moment, like now I
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: see that's always the case and in many cases, like
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the lead knows who they really like, and you know,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the show itself is in a way a bit of
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say a game, but like there
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: are certain things that you probably have to do as
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: a lead, um two, yeah, do it for the show
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. And so I took so much offense
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: internally in that moment that she didn't like me the
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: way that I liked her, that I didn't think, like,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: this is also part of what I signed up for.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I can't just be the one she keeps giving date
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: rossis too kind of thing. Um So that was that
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: was like the first kind of like gut punched for
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: me on the show, and when I started really question
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: things and have some troubles with it and try my
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: best to try and ignore it. But then I think
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: it was Kenny went on like a date with her
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: one on one date the next day or like a
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: group date or something like that. And when he came back,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: he was talking about how he had also gone up
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: to a room and they like hung out in the
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: hot tub, and I was like, like, and this is
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: nothing against her. She did absolutely nothing wrong. I hold
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: never did hold anything against her as more, just like
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I emotionally, it wasn't capable at that time of deciphering
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: what this meant, and was so thrown off and so
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: hurt by it that I think from that point on,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I just was in my head NonStop with the entire process.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: It's like, I'm in love with this person, falling in
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: love with this person, and they are literally dating other
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: people doing the same things that I hold to be
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: so special, and they're able to do it with others.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: So I like it downplayed what I thought was a
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: really good connection in my own mind. And so then
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: when we finally did have our second date, I was
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: all torn up and confused about all that, but then
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: also so stressed out that this is the only second
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: time that I'm going to have like a full day
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: with this person, and the next chance I see them
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: will be with my family, And so it was again
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: like the pressures of that so then you go on
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: your family date, and the majority of the time I
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: was talking to my family or talking to my friends,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: and so she and I didn't really progress our relationship.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: And then we met her family and it was the
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: same thing, like catching up on the last day talking
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: about that, but then talking to families and not really
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: catching up with each other and building a relationship. And
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: then it was let's fly off to Europe and talk
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: about getting engaged in like two three days. And so
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I was still wounded. Basically, I don't like me to
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: sound so negative, but it's what happened, and trying to
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: like still get through the relationship and progress it and
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: let this person know that I truly care about them
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: and I'm falling in love with them walm ending a
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: wound at the same time, and then having the pressure
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: of engagement is just a couple of days away, and
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I am still trying to like wrap my head around
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: everything and make sure this is a relationship that will
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: last a lifetime and I'm not caught up in the moment,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: and you know, we can get along outside of these
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: walls and all sort of stuff. So it just became
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: so overwhelming that I think I dug my feet in
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: the ground, just like I'm not ready get engaged, Like
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I really really like you, falling in love with you,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: but I need to get to know us together before
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I can, you know, just jump to that level. Have
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: you been able at this point to communicate with Rachel
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: kind of the wounds that are understandably so, I mean
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: from a Leeds perspective, I would I would have a
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: hundred percent understood that you had been confusing her. I'm
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: sure she was as well, had you been able to
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: communicate that with her at that point. I think I
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: was so wrapped up and trying to like progress our
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: relationship and make her happy and show her the good
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: sides of me that I don't think I ever communicated that.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: We definitely had like our conversations about the engagement, but
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I also don't think I don't think at the time
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I realized why I was thinking or acting the way
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: that I did. I mean, in any breakup, you go
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: back and you play things back through your head and
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: with a clear mind and realize, Okay, this is probably
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: why this actually happened. Um. You know, there's a lot
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: of people that need time and space to figure things out,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: and there's a lot of people that need to talk
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: about and unfortunately, my way of fixing things and partnerships, relationships,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: whatever it may be friendships is to talk about it
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: and talk out the problems. And sometimes that's not the
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: best thing to do. Sometimes that causes more stress and
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: more pain and more separation. Um, can you know, build
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: off a height and emotions and so I wish I
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: had known the things now then, and you know I didn't,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: so I kind of rolled with what I was doing
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: and it ended up the way it ended up. Are
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: you willing to talk to us about the abandonment issues
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: and where they came from? I don't know if you guys.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Do you guys believe in nature or nurture or combination
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: of both, combination of both my opinion. So my belief
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: is that, um, everybody has preset levels of stress and
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: emotion and all these things that you're just born with it.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if you guys know this, but
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: when your grandmother was pregnant with your mother, your emotional set,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: basically it was already being imprinted on your yourself. So
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: like your mom was already developing your egg when her
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: mother was four months pregnant with her so any of
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: the stress emotional and physical that your grandma went through
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: was imprinted on your mom, which then has been printed
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: on your egg, which then actually translates down to you
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: at some point. So no matter who you are, where
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: you are, you are built off at some level with
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: a baseline of stress or anxiety or even depression all
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: these things. So that's like the nature side of it.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: And then you get the nurture, and it's just the
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: environment that you brought up in the people that you're
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: around all the time, and how you interpret those situation
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: is based off that no nature. Um So where it
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: all came from specifically, I I can't say for sure,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: but there's ideas in my head and with my life
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: coach that we've talked about. Um yeah, there's definitely like
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: a heightened level I'm sure of stressed for me And
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: yeah that showed up has abandoned issues. Well yeah, well,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I mean thanks for sharing. I think, I mean, so
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: many of us right sit here and go I don't
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: know why I feel the way I do or why
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I react the way I do. Um, but as you
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: dig deep. I mean I just mentioned on the podcast
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: last week, I've been in therapy now for uh a
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: month now. Kind of walking through some of this stuff
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: too when it's been it appears has been super helpful
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: for me. Um, to identify some of these things. Well, hey,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I want to jump ahead here. Then, Uh, you're sitting
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: in the seat here, or you're sitting in the time
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: period where you and Rachel are developing feelings, you're leading
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: up to a proposal. And so we flashed to that
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: day you were the runner up. And as we mentioned,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: looking back always helps, It always helps us process better
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: looking back on this. How would you process this experience
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: of how did you describe that day, the pains and
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: the the ups and downs of it. Well, so she
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: and I had our final date and conversation the day
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: before we were supposed to, um like offer up a proposal.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to say that, get down on
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: one knee, right, um, And she and I had the
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: conversation that night, and um, you know, like the relationship ended.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: She Um, she and I just didn't see eye to eye.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: And I also truly believe I did watch the season
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: back not too long ago for the first time, and
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: you can see from the start that she is in
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: love with Brian, like absolutely obsessed with Brian, they click
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: on a level that she and I never did. When
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: all those people came out all the time and saying
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: all these awful things about her choice or about Brian
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: and put me up on a pedestal, it really made
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: me upset because they didn't see the background of it.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: There's a lot that the show doesn't show. There's a
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: lot a lot a lot of hours of tape and
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: not everything makes it to screen. And um, looking back
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: at it, I could even say, they probably trying to
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: give me an edit to potentially become the Bachelor, and
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: so it was gonna make me look better. And you know,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: he wasn't as important at that point, m um. So
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously you think she made the right choice.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: And they seemed so happy and beautiful together and she
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: and I just weren't meant to be and so the
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: relationship ended, and um, you know it sucked. Obviously. I
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: cried a bunch. Megan was my producer, and she played
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: the same song over for me for brobably like six
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: hours straight as I cried on the floor. But then
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: you know, like a couple of days later, of all
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: the what was me, she and I were able to
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: go to Madrid, and I was like, Okay, new start.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I'm in Madrid. Beautiful city. Is gonna be a lot
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: of fun. You know. For all I know she and
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Brian didn't end up together, because you know, I'm still
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: fresh off the break up at that point. I don't
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: know what happened after she left, And it wasn't until
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Brian's producer walked past us with her producer and I
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: was like, uh, like, okay, they're together. That that was
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: like the sign I needed. Um. So, yeah, that was
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: a rough couple of days after the fact, and then
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I got back home and everything just kind of went
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: right back to the way it was. It was back
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: with my family hanging out, I had a new puppy,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: m Like. It was okay for a few days, and
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: then the season starts and there's all like the stress
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: and fear and excitement of the show coming on and
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: watching yourself on TV for the first time. That was
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: exciting and terrifying. Mm hmm. Yeah. So did you think
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: that possibly after your breakup, that she wasn't going to
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: pick anyone? I did, yeah at the time, And you
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: inferred that it kind of upset you a little bit
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: in that moment to see that she did what it
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: was confirmation of the fear that I had that she
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: had gotten engaged to Brian or at least like, you know,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: go on with Brian. M hm. You got a lot
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: of flak at the time for being on the show
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: and not being willing to propose, because they want all
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: people who signed up for the show to of course
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: be marriage oriented, and a lot of people are like, oh, well,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't want to propose, then like, why the
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: heck is he here? But is it because you were
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: still unfamiliar with the process and knowing what you knew,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: you thought that you were going to have a lot
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: more time with her before that proposal. I definitely went
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: into the experience thinking that there was more time with
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: the person. And I think for some people the process
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: does work, and the timeline and like the the rate
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: at which you have your dates and you spend time
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: with the person works really well for some people and
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: for some people it doesn't. For myself because there was
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: a huge gap in the middle, and then there was
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: these things that kind of like I'm gonna call him
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: gut punches during that time. Again, no fault of hers,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: it was just the way that the process went for me. Um, yeah,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: it set me back. It had the process spent different,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe even like the show itself could
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: have worked for me. I can't say it was, you know,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: hindsight is what it is at this point. We we
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: recently had Hannah Ann on the In Depth podcast and
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: we spoke to her about kind of her time on
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: the show and how long it's taken her to recover
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: from her break up with Peter, and she mentions it
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: she's still recovered. How long did it take you to
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: cover from from this whole? I guess not even the
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: show part as much, because we'll get into that too,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: but the relationship piece of this. Oh, I don't know.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, how long did that thing? I think it
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: took an extentded period of time for me because as
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you watch the show, it's constantly reopening the wound, and
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: then after the show, all the talk about me becoming
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor kept that wound open, and then every time
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: someone would post on social media, I'd see it, it it
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: would reopen the wound. And then every time that they
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: talked about the next Bachelor coming up or you I like,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I watched a little bit of the next season the Bachelorette,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: and like that opened back up because it brings you
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: back to all the same places and some of the
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: same experiences. And so I watched me like a couple
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: of half episodes and UM, yeah, I'm just gonna do it.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: So I think the wound took a long time to
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: fully close. And now it's more the show itself and
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: all of the craziness of it and the aftermath of it.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: There's so many amazing I came from the show, Like
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I met you, guys. Vegas was one of the funnest
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: weekends of my life. It was I remember that year.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: That's when we found out. Actually actually, um, Peter and
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I were at lunch with Wells when he told us
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: that he was dating Sarah Highland for the very first time.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Remember that, Peter Sarah. Yeah, Sarah had just had like
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: a surgery and they FaceTime and they were the sweetest couple.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, I remember that. I remember when
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: they faced time in the car for the first time
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: on our way to the Heart Festival, and then we
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: had that sunnight. Then you didn't feel good. You had
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: that like horrible fever. And then I went out with Wells,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Dean and Peter, and I was like, there are millions
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: of girls around this country who would just pay so
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: many thousands of dollars to be in my spot. Right now,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: it's not alive. And I just met everybody for the
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: first time, and we were trying to go to a
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: club and they wouldn't let us in, so I pretended
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: to be wells as manager. I was like, yeah, yeah,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: we should. You should probably let him in here. I
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: don't know if you know that, remember that. I think
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: it worked. We got into that club. Oh no, no,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: you're right, we did. No, it was Paris. That's so good. Well, Peter,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: we're getting here to a really interesting part of this
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: whole experience. And one day, actually they were both super
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: intrigued to talk to you about, Um, you know, kind
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: of this this ending of the show felt, you know,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: felt heavy. Then you kind of disappeared. Uh and in
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: a way that nobody really understands. And I think that's
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: one of the parts that has intrigued everybody is where
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: did Peter go? He was loved, he there was controversy
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: surrounding him not getting engaged. Uh, where did you go?
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Where have you been? What happened? Um? Where did that go? Home.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I just kind of went went home. I tried to
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: go back to normal life, and it didn't work. Like
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: there there was nothing normal about life from that point on.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: You know, during the summer that I was airing, I
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: was at my parents house a lot. I didn't even
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: go back to my house at ton Um try to
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: start work back up with my in home training business,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: but all people wanted to do was talk about the
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: show and get all the inside information about it. And
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I opened myself up to new clients and all of
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: them would come in for one session, which you know,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I always gave out one free session to get to
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: know people, and then they would never come back at
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: that point, so I was just like, yeah, so I
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: just became like this entity to people and it drove
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: me crazy. So eventually I just kind of said, screw it.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just keep hiring trainers to take care of
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: everybody and I'm not going to do that myself. And yeah,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't really know what I did that summer.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I worked out a lot, just kind of did my
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: own thing. Um eventually got to do some traveling from it.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: You know, I went to New York for a couple
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: of interviews. Um, I went to meet you guys in Vegas.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I went up to Canada a couple of times to
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: meet some people and do a couple of events. There
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: wasn't really a whole lot of structure in my life
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: for a while after the show, like it really changed
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: everything quite a bit around Bachelor Nation was that they
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: wanted you to be the Bachelor, but that you were
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: asking too much, holding out, and that they didn't want
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: to beg for you, so they decided to go with Ari.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Is there any truth to that? M okay, yeah, all right.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: So they asked me to be the Bachelor and I
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: said no, like a straight up now. And a couple
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: weeks later they called and made a little bit more
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: formal and I again said no. And then we were
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: out in New York for Good Morning America after the
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: um after the Final Rose, and they asked me there
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: and again I said no, And by that time I
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: was starting to talk to a girl, and um, you
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: had feelings for They asked, you know again for a
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: third time, flew me out to l A to talk
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: about it really like straight up, and um, you know,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I told him I had started to talk to him,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: and they said, well, are you guys in a relationship?
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: And I said no, like okay, well would you be
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: willing to leave that or exit that? And I wasn't sure.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: So then we really started talking about like the details
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: of the show itself and how it was really hard
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: for me, and I couldn't say I would for sure
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: be able to get in an engage. And at the
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: end it wasn't that I knew for a fact that
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I want to was more, I couldn't have promised them
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: that I would, and I didn't want to be forced
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: to do it if I said yes to the show.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of back and forth in this
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: meeting that we had, and um, money was never discussed
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: until we got to the actual compensation and I said, well,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I make considerably more than that already per year. Why
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: would I give up in my thoughts, like the rest
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: of my life's being known as Peter the Bachelor and
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: no longer as Peter for the amount of money that
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: isn't life changing. And so money was discussed and we
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: all agreed it wouldn't make sense to, you know, pay
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: a ton of money, because then you're no longer doing
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: it for the right reasons. So money was never actually
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: like a major factor in it, but they did think
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: that there was, you know, a certain amount that I
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: would be paid. I guess that would that would be
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: fair compared to my my income at the time. UM.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I said, all right, I mean that sounds fine. And
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: so then we started talking about the details of the
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: show itself and came to agreements on some of the
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: things that could be changed to help me with what
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: I needed in the show, which I mean, I'll just
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: so you straight up. I wanted to be able to
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: spend more time with people individually. UM. I wanted to
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: be able to just like go into the house and
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: see people in their natural habitat so that way it
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: didn't feel like they were putting on a show for me.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: It was more like, this is who you actually are
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: when you're unsuspecting of what or not what the where
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: I'm at. UM. I wanted relationship counseling for myself in
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: the top like four or five girls during the process,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: so that way we could work things out on a
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: deep level. And then I wanted continued support, um for
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: myself and that person that I chose after the fact, UM,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: because I saw that pressure that Ryan and Rachel we
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: are put under, and I thought it was extremely unfair. Um,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I think Brian got a really bad rap and didn't
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: deserve it. Even though, like I said my things about
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Brian on the show, I said them out of frustration
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: of losing the girl that I was with to that man. Um.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: So there's conversations and uh, yeah, I think those are
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: smart requests. Yeah, I didn't want to. I don't want
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: to be a dick about it. I didn't wanna be like, hey,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm better than this, or this is what I deserve.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: I was just saying, like, I do actually want to
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: fall in love and get married at some point, but
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I want to you'll make it under my term this
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. This is my life, it's my long term.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: It's not just a short term goal for me. I
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: understand the show can progress my life and my career
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: in many ways that it probably wouldn't otherwise. But at
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: the same time, I was confident enough that I could
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: do that on my own, under my own hard work,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: and so I wasn't gonna sacrifice some of my leaves
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: um to be that. So you mentioned not wanting to
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: feel the pressure of needing to get engaged or being
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: forced into it did frustrate you to see the following
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: seasons go like this, Ari SWITCHERU Colton Fence Jump, no engagement,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Peter failed engagement, no relationship. It made me think like
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: maybe I put way too much pressure on myself for
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: that because I read too much of what everybody was
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: saying in social media worlds and saying that it was
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: all about the engagement nothing else mattered, And that just
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: goes to show that, no, it's about following your heart
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: and picking the relationship that's best for you in any
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: form of that comes in. And I think at the
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: time it was still so much about engagement that I
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: was just really frowned upon by those people who were
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: watching the show solely for the engagement. You you say
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of this, Peter in it's kind of a
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: tone of this is what you were doing at the time,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: and so don't want to ask you now, how many
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: years out would you have changed anything? Would you have
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: done any of this different? What I have? No? Um do?
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I sometimes wonder what life would have been like had
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I done things different all the time? Um? You know what,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: what if I would have said yes and just been
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: the bachelor? You know what? Would life be like now?
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Would I be with someone right now? Would I be
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: in New York or l a where most of the
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: people seem to go. Um, I don't know how how
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: would life change? Would my business have its stores closed
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: right now and me like scared to death watching tens
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars walk out the door every week? Like,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It could have been life changing. But
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: at the same time, all the attention has been a
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: ton already and I wasn't the Bachelor. I can't imagine
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: what you as the Bachelor experience on a regular basis.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, you are forever been the Bachelor, m Um,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I do you're everywhere a show? Yeah? I mean and
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: and you and I. You know, as we talked about,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: we both had our own I'm not gonna call it damage.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you would like, our own issues
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: from it, you know, you we both emotionally are trying
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: to still kind of recover from, you know, this week,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I in all vulnerability, like I went on a texting
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: spree to actually saying like, hey, I'm sorry that sometimes
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I feel you as a co host, like, hey, I'm
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: sorry that sometimes like I don't feel like I match
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: up to what you need as as a partner here,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: and it mostly comes to a place of like I
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: hear it, and I see it, and it affects me,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: and it still affects me as a thirty one year
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: old man five years later. Yea. And so when you
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: when you say this stuff, Peter, like, you're not alone, right,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: And I think actually could say and probably say the
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: same thing, like this stuff affects you, but in the
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: same breath, it does change your life forever and in
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of good way. And so that leaves me
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: the next question with you is do you want any
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: of that stuff? Like do you want to be in
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: l A and New York? And do you want to
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: be in a relationship right now? And then also please explain,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: like where your business is that right now? Like how
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: how how is this brand new venture that you and
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I talked about, I don't know what six months ago
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: we texted back and forth about it, Like how is
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: that doing? Oh? Do I want to be in a relationship? Yes?
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Do I wanna find the love of my life and
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: have a beautiful house with a picket fence and like
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: six dogs. Hell yeah, I want to have little kids.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: I want to push them in carts and play with
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: him out in the yard. And yeah, like baby kisses
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: are the best, the cutest, sweetest little things on earth.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: I stand want all those things, but I I want
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: to wait till I find someone that is my best
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: friend first and we developed a relationship that is, you know,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: undeniable in its connection, and then from there take the
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: next steps in life. You know, I've grown a lot
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: since being on the show and changed a lot in
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: my life. And uh, I think I really know what
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I want and I'm not wasting my time with things
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: that aren't there for me. So I've tried a couple
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: of relationships. Like the girl I was talking to at
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: the time, it instantly didn't work. It's actually like we
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: stopped talking weeks after that conversation with Ashler. Um. But yeah,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: like I want those things. I want to build my
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: gym up here. I want to open up a couple
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: more if I can. Um. You guys know, I traveled
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: the country doing boot camps and it is my favorite
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: freaking thing on earth. Like the rush and the high
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: that I get from that and the smiles and the
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: energy that I get from the crowd are as close
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: as I'll ever become to being a rock star, and
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's the coolest thing, and I will do
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: that till it is no longer available. H Unfortunately, attention
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: and fame that came from the show that built those
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: crowds is waning a little bit, so the crowds aren't
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: quite as big as they used to. Beat. Hey, we
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: understand that too. Yeah, the further you get from the
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: show obviously the least that's there. So you have to decide,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: all right, do I go back on the show to
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: you try and pick that back up? Where am I
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: happy with where I'm at? Am I happy with the
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: life that I have, And I'm really happy with the
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: life I have. I have the gym of my dreams,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I have my family, I have my dog. I have
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: this beautiful apartment that I love. Um, I was gonna
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: buy a house. Unfortunately I'll have put down hold a
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, No, I'm happy. I'm good with
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: where everything's at right now. And at some point I'd
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: like to get out of Madison once the gym is
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: up and sufficient. Um, I want to get somewhere warmer.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: This winter crap is just killing me, taking me down
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit every day. M hmm. Have you had
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: a relationship strong enough to speak of since the show? Um?
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Not really. Why do you think that is just haven't
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: found her? Are you on the apps? I'm on, I
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: was on. I guess, like you could say, a dating now.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: I log on and off of Bumble every now and then.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: But no, I think it's I just haven't found the
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: right person yet. Um. Living in Madison, the dating pool
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: is pretty small. You kind of know everybody at this point.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: I mean it was the case before I went on
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: the show. I went on the show because I was
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: single and wanting to, um, you know, find a relationship
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: that wasn't in Madison, and came back wanted the same
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: kind of things and that just hasn't changed even though
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: it's been three years. I remember there was rumors about
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: you and Bibby. Anything you'd like to address there, Um, Gibby,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it she nice friendship, relationship
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: you want to call it like it obviously ended on
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: a sour note. She had what she wanted to say
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: about it, and it is what it is. I don't
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: like to talk about people when they're not around or
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: give my side of the story. And I'm sure she
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: has her reasons. So those kind of stories come up
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: a lot when you do involve yourself with Bachelor Nations.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: So now I've got to know, a couple of years distanced,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: would you think about doing Bachelor in Paradise again to
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: find that person to amp up the business combination of both. No. Never,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: you will never be on a Bachelor franchise show again.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: I can't say that I want to do Bachelor in
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Paradise personally, especially knowing that, like the group of girls
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: that were just on the show, we're all really young. Yeah,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: you know, I'd like to date thirty and above if possible.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: The women would love to hear that out there, like
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: that's fine. Um, but yeah, I don't think Bachroom Paradise
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: is quite my thing. Gotcha nothing again, I just don't
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: see myself being successful on there. Why did you back
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: out of Winter Games? Because the ladies were waiting for you?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: That was like the buzz about town at that parade.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: They're like, okay, but wait a second, is Peter gonna
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: like show about the house or something? Because we all
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: came here because Peter was supposed to be here. Hey,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: I was there too. They all knew you were still
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: wounded bad and not running. Then I actually just saw
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: some random like clip of your leaving. Oh wow, that
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: was an emotional moment that was heavy for like real
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: life heavy, like yeah, that's it was like that in
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: front of everybody that takes a lot of balls. Yeah.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: It was like one of the weirdest, most like emotionally
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: charged moments in my life. And it happened on like
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: a crazy little bachelor show. I don't get it, but
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: it still happened. Sometimes it comes out at the most
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: moments and you just gotta follow it. And what happened.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: It's good. It's been good for me. It was like
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: a stick in the ground moment. So where where were
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: you at? Where were you? So I actually said yes
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: to it, and I think it's just like a couple
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: of days before we were supposed to leave, they text
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: me like, um, change your plans. You're not invited anymore.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: What in the world. Yeah, So that was the end
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: of that, and I just looked at my text like
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I did, but okay, you still
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: don't have any clue. No clue. Um. My personal opinion
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: it was that Ari was the bachelor at the time,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: and because I was the guy that you know was
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: being talked about as another opportunity to be bastlar I guess,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: or it could have been bash or what it is.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe they just didn't want the conversation to even be had.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: They just wanted to nip it in the button, you
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: know with That was just my own personal opinion. I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: have no clue. Maybe I paid somebody off in some way,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: or maybe they heard something. I have no clue. Wow,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: which I'm glad it didn't go because you guys were
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: literally like ice skating the whole time. Oh, I think
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: you would have had fun with the skiing and stuff.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: You would have blown everyone out of the water, well will,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Ben was pretty good actually, and so
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: was Dean. But I'm not a snow person. I don't
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: go on snow very well. I would have been crushed. Okay, Peter,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: you're missed by Dean and myself. And I know you
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: and Dean are still good buddies and uh still h
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: he You know he considers you one of his best friends,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: and um, I know you keep in touch. Peter. We
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: end every in depth episode with two things. One is
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: we allow you to just monologue here and share with
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: our audience, who's listening, anything that we missed, anything you
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: want to share with them who are listening, and just
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: kind of want to catch up in your life. And
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: then actually always ends in a really fun way with
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: a rapid fire round Peter for the next minute or
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: however long you would take. Thirty seconds, the stage is yours,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: the audience is listening. Say whatever it is that you want.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: The first thing that comes to mind is saying thank you. Um,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: you know, after they came and actually shot my home
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: to own stuff for Winter Games, I got to talk
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: to producer's face face, and I think it's the first
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: time I ever got to say thank you for the experience, um,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: you know, reach out to Rachel and social media and
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: just said thank you via Twitter for the experience. And
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: it was genuinely life changing for the better in so
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: many ways. Like I was saying with Vegas, like I
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: honestly had so much fun. I was front row to
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: see Halsey to the point where my body was shaking
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: from the beat, and she made eye contact with me.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: I just like, this is the craziest experience in my life, Like,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: oh my god, BB, Yeah, she's awesome. We actually talked
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: back and forth just for fun for a little while
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: and like she's great. Um yeah, it's just it's been
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: such a life changing experience to like even now to
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: this day, I get recognized all over the place. People
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: support me just because of that show. Um it allowed
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: me to build a social media where I was able
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: to put all that money away into open up my
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: gym for the first time, a dream I had had
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: for ten years. Um it filled the gym for the
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: first month. Like the majority of people that came to
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: the gym, I will not lie about it. We're probably
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: just fans of the show, and so they came and
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: supported and all the boot camps that I go down,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: it's all because that show. Like all these people that
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: come and see you becomes that show, And like, granted,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I hope they get to know me and see who
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: I am as a person. They enjoy me as a
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: person to want to be a part of my life
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: because of who I am, not just because of the show.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: But they wouldn't have had that opportunity to see that
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: if it weren't for it. So I'm eternally grateful for
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: the opportunity and for Rachel keeping me An around as
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: long as she did. Um, Yeah, it was. It's a
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: life changing experience. M Well, thanks for sharing, man, I
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: really appreciated. Alright, ready for rapid fire? Why not, let's
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: do it. What's the favorite what's your favorite delivery you've
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: been getting since quarantined? Zero? Actually no delivery, no deliveries.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: What's your favorite thing to make in the kitchen since quarantine?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: I make a lot of tacos, tacos, all of the
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: taco pizzas. I really like tacos in any form. This
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: sounds good me too. Who's your celebrity crush? Oh, celebrity crush?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: I have no clue right now, pass because I don't know.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Do you have a celebrity man crush? Dean? Okay, Well
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: that leads into my next question, which is probably the
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: same answer. Bachelor guy who you'd like to steal some
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: swag from? Well, obviously, like Tyler has been the top
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: of the town for a while now, and he and
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I actually chatted, and he's an awesome guy. He's super nice,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: got a good head on his shoulders, So I just
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: give him props. What was the last conversation you had
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: with your dog? Because I heard that you guys have
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: been talking. Uh, probably to just take a second and
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: actually take a dump. She just like walks around the
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: circle's constantly, So you please just sit still for a
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: second and go to that. Who's the last person you texted? Actually, Iggy,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Dean and Alex we're in a group thread right now,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: blown up as texts. Okay, And what's a show that
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: you've been been watching during during Turing Paradise and Turn Quarantine.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: So it's on Disney Pluss called Mandalorian. Oh okay, you're
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Star Wars fan that show. If you haven't seen it,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: you have got to walk. Yeah. I think Jo would
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: really like it. So who's your verite Star Wars character?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: What's your favorite episode of the franchise? Good question. I
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: think all those recent movies that they've just come up
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: with are exceptional. Kylo Ren is one of the coolest characters,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: and the fact that I won't like spoiler, but how
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: his character changes towards the end of the movies is awesome.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Oh oh my god. Yeah. I mean, Jared thought that
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: it was gonna be hard to get me into these
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: new episodes, but I'm like Jared Kyler run and that
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: love story, the sexual tension that leads that lasts for
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: so many hours I'm in the Only thing I won't
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: recommend is watching episodes like one through three and not good. Well,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: you know, Hayden Christensen for all of us girls out there,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: not bad to look at for a couple of hours.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Good point. Alrighty, Well, is there anything you'd like to
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: plug talk about Peter Crossfitness. Uh, talk about Peter Grosses. Uh.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Check on my website. I do a live workout every
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: day at noon. It's myself for one of my trainers
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: and uh. We do live workouts at noon in Central
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: time and they last for twenty four hours. You just
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: got to sign up on Peter Crossfitness dot com. Sounds good.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for for doing this. It's been
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: really fun. Yeah, Peter Aston, I always want to like
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: we're very appreciative of anybody sits down and trusts us
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: when with an in depth It's not easy for anybody
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: do to talk about themselves for an hour and fifteen
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: minutes and to walk through this process. So Ashley and
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: I and almost Fama his podcast. I want to say
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: thank you, of course, thanks for having me. Thank you
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: so much. I feel like people got to know you
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: so well for this good I'm glad. I'm sure there's
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: always more stories to be had, and there's everybody's opinions,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: but it's good to share it from my side. Then
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: you want to sign us off. Hey, Peter, H follow
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: along here. Ashley and I always end these episodes in
• 1:09:30
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