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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Monday, February nineteenth, I'm your host,
- 0:03tom or the Akron game in one hundred and ninety four days, the game
- 0:06against Michigan in two hundred and eighty five days. Hopefully you get to enjoy
- 0:10a little bit of a long holiday weekend on this President's Day. Ohio State
- 0:14athletics fans overall probably hoping the weekend really never comes to an end. Let's
- 0:19just run through just a few of the highlights. I think I saw something
- 0:23from Ohio State President Ted Carter that all fifteen Ohio State teams that were in
- 0:27action on Saturday one. That's pretty remarkable. Here's a few of the highlights.
- 0:32Women's hockey swept at weekend series to win the WCCHA regular season title.
- 0:36Men's hockey, who has not had a great season, swept Number four Wisconsin
- 0:40won both games like an actual sweep. Number four Wisconsin men's tennis events the
- 0:46indoor National Championships with a four to nothing sweep over Virginia over the in the
- 0:50semi finals. They will play number two TCU in the finals. And oh
- 0:54yes, remember the Ohio State basketball team that everyone myself included had completely written
- 1:00off, like five days ago, and then they fired their coach and it
- 1:03was like, well, this is going poorly. Ohio State seventy three number
- 1:07two Purdue sixty nine final score in men's basketball in the Shottenstein Center on Sunday.
- 1:12I was there for it. Kevin Noon is there for it. Kevin
- 1:15Noon is here with and to me now to talk about it. Kevin the
- 1:19Jake Diebler era at Ohio State. I guess it's off to a good start
- 1:25so far. Yeah, I want to know. And it was a big
- 1:29one. Remember, Purdue came in as a number two team in the nation.
- 1:33Obviously Purdue is kind of farted around in its last four games. And
- 1:38I talked to a tue Purdue writer before the game. He's like, well,
- 1:41Ohio State's guard play is going to be an issue and some other things.
- 1:45And I'm like, you're just being nice. You're being nice, sure
- 1:48in our building, and you just want to, you know, sound like
- 1:51you're just part of the crowd or whatever. But what you know, fine,
- 1:56you can say. But Ohio State goes out there and and takes care
- 2:00of business. And it wasn't without its drama. Ohio State had to fight
- 2:02to come back in the game, kind of got right up to the cusp
- 2:06put and break through. Ohio State builds a big lead, not an eighteen
- 2:09point lead, because we know that that's danger. That's like twenty eight to
- 2:13three in the NFL. You don't want to do that, and ends up
- 2:17seeing the game get tied up late and then hits some big baskets down the
- 2:22stretch and and gets away with the win. And you know, Ohio State's
- 2:27going to have to address another nine hundred pound monster in the room with going
- 2:30on the road to Minnesota next. But you know, these these guys came
- 2:35out and play their tails off and got the win that Ohio States has been
- 2:39very elusive for the Buckeyes as of late. Yeah, I mean, any
- 2:43any wins have been pretty elusive for Ohio State as of late. To win
- 2:46a game like this against the number two team in the country really kind of
- 2:51out of nowhere. I mean, you mentioned the crowd earlier. Being part
- 2:53of the crowd that was about as likely as I have heard the Shottenstein Center
- 2:58in a long time. And part of I think was the fact that there
- 3:00were thousands of Purdue fans there. Purdue was very well represented. There were
- 3:05some very loud, very clearly audible Purdue pro Purdue chants during the course of
- 3:09the game. But man, when Ohio's date got it rolling and they built
- 3:14a twelve point lead in the in the second half, Jamison Battle hit hit
- 3:19a couple of threes back to back, and that got it got loud,
- 3:23It got lively in that building, and then there were some back and forth
- 3:27between the fans and it was, you know, for as often as that
- 3:30building has been, you know, a slightly livelier version of a morgue over
- 3:34the last few years, that was I mean, that was quite an atmosphere
- 3:37in there on Saturday or Sunday. Yeah. According to the final book,
- 3:40attendants was over eighteen thousand. Maybe probably not, but there were a lot
- 3:49of butts and seats. The upper tank had a good amount of people,
- 3:53especially center court. The INDs maybe not as much, but I heard several
- 3:59boys up chants. There were thousands of Purdue fans during the introductions. The
- 4:05cheers for Purdue were maybe not quite as loud as the cheers for Ohio State,
- 4:10but they they registered, they were significant. You mentioned Jamison Battle.
- 4:15He really got hot when it was necessary. Bruce Thoorton carried the water most
- 4:20of the way, but Jamison Battle had three threes and sixty one seconds in
- 4:26Ohio State needed all of those. And you know, it was not a
- 4:30game where Roddy Gaale was able to really get into it. But Ohio State
- 4:34getting whatever was forty one forty three points between the two main players. That's
- 4:42that's what Ohio State needs. I've talked about it in other basketball shows,
- 4:45and we don't do a ton of them because we go where the fans are
- 4:48and there's not been a ton of demand over what Ohio State has been this
- 4:53year. But you need to have that second score and maybe the third score
- 4:57was not somebody got into double figures. But when you have a guys playing
- 5:00like Battle and Thornton, who are the players we talked to after the game,
- 5:03that means a lot. In Ohio State did a lot of the things
- 5:08that played into maybe some of the cracks in the Purdue armor. Yeah,
- 5:13you go through the box score and there's a bunch of boy I can't believe
- 5:16you know, if I told you that this one stat, you would think
- 5:19this team won by twenty points. Or if I told you that one stat,
- 5:23you'd think, oh, the other team won by twenty points, and
- 5:26it ended up being an incredibly close game with just a bizarre series of stats.
- 5:31Perdue twenty for twenty at the line, twenty for twenty at the free
- 5:35throw stripe, Zachi Y twenty two points, thirteen boards. It felt like
- 5:42he didn't have a great game. He had six turnovers, and you look
- 5:45at the final stats and it's twenty two points and thirteen boards, and it's
- 5:47like, oh, well, I guess he had I guess he played just
- 5:49fine. Twenty two points for Bruce Thorton, nineteen for Jamison Battle. You
- 5:54know, if I told you Roddy Gale scores four points, You're immediately are
- 5:57thinking there's no way Ohio State wins that game. If I tell you Ohio
- 6:00State led twenty six to four in bench points, Okay, now you're probably
- 6:05thinking Ohio State probably won by a bunch. Ohio State twenty two points off
- 6:10of turnovers. Perdue just five. Just a weird, weird game, Ohio
- 6:14State. Both teams shot thirty three percent from three point land Ohio State just
- 6:17seven for twenty one from three. That's not a very good game. Purdue
- 6:23was Okay, Purdue had an advantage in the paint thirty two to twenty four.
- 6:27But you know, when you have a Zach Edy out there, and
- 6:29Ohio State was just kind of like rotating guys through. I think they had
- 6:31about four different guys on him at various times. It just felt like they
- 6:35were just kind of throwing stuff up against the wall and it's like, Okay,
- 6:39it's zed Key for a while, and then it's Felix Huckpara and then
- 6:42he fouls out. And you know, I saw Evan Mahaffey was kind of
- 6:45on him at one point, and they've been brought in Austin Parks at one
- 6:47point, and it was just kind of throwing stuff up against the wall to
- 6:50see what worked, and it just it just kind of worked. Yeah.
- 6:56Credit to zed Key. Zed Key had maybe his best to fait of game
- 7:00ever as a Buckeye, very active hands, was able to swap the ball
- 7:04out of Zach Edy's hands multiple times. Early in the game. They were
- 7:11getting these they were forcing these turnovers, but they weren't able to get them
- 7:15and Purdue was able to maintain possession. But it just kind of continued on
- 7:19and it really I think it kind of got into Edie's hands. Edie only
- 7:23had a couple of TIMPs in the first half. In Purdue, it's like,
- 7:26oh, gee, we have Zach Eidy, we should probably throw it
- 7:29down to him more. And they had much more success in the second half.
- 7:33But Ohio State had already planted the seed of being able to anytime that
- 7:39Edie brought the ball below his waist, it was not ever going back up.
- 7:43Ohio State was able to knock it away and just really rattle him a
- 7:48lot. Ohio State's turnovers that it was able to force, I mean,
- 7:53Ohio State, what was it were like fourteen to six and the turnovers maybe
- 7:57even worse than that. That was something Mapping to talk about after the game,
- 8:01and he was like, that was a huge difference right there. Ohio
- 8:03State just played at a high level there, and and and Produe's record when
- 8:09it is losing the turnover battle is very mortal. And you know, Purdue
- 8:13when it wins of turnover battle is among the best teams in the nation.
- 8:18So you look at all those types of things, Ohio State was really able
- 8:24to weather multiple storms. As I mentioned earlier in the show, Purdue marches
- 8:30all the way back, ties the game late and then the Buckeyes are able
- 8:33to pull away, and that's not something that we've seen earlier. And of
- 8:37course they're going to be the people who look to find a person to blame.
- 8:43I need to find somebody to blame, because obviously it's somebody's fault,
- 8:46and they're all gonna blame Chris Holtman. This is the team that was there
- 8:50all along. I just think all the pieces really worked well today. And
- 8:56you know, Purdue is a bad matchup for the Buckeyes. Purdue has been
- 9:00a bad matchup for years just because of Matt Painter's success of recruiting bigs.
- 9:05I mean, they have Zach Edie, they have a redhead that's a red
- 9:07shirt freshman that's like seven to two. Oh by the way, they're bringing
- 9:11in a seven foot four player to start the whole cycle over again. Ohio
- 9:15State has always been a smaller team. You mentioned Felix Akpara fouls out,
- 9:18Zad Key played with four fouls. They had a point where they had neither
- 9:22of them on the court because Akpara was out and they were trying to save
- 9:26Key, and they still managed to find a way. This is going to
- 9:31be the game that a lot of people are going to circle and say,
- 9:35the pieces are there. Whoever the next coach is going to be has pieces
- 9:39as long as he can hold on to these guys. Well, before we
- 9:43get to the next coach, let's talk about the current coach, the new
- 9:46coach, the interim coach, Jake Diebler. This was his first game as
- 9:50Ohio State's interim head coach, and that's quite a first impression. You never
- 9:54get a chance, second chance to make a first impression. Jake Diebler made
- 9:56quite a first impression on Sunday. So what did he have to say after
- 10:01the game? I would imagine it was something of a day of mixed emotions
- 10:05for him. Yeah, he went through the handshaken line and he's like,
- 10:09I'm getting emotional. I'm getting emotional. Then his wife gets down there,
- 10:13then his parents get down there, and he's like, yeah, I lost
- 10:16a little bit. I'm not going to let you guys make me emotional down
- 10:18here. So he managed to keep us at bay because the evil beat the
- 10:22Evil beat media going to try and make coach cry or whatever. But you
- 10:28know, he he, you know, asked a lot of the team and
- 10:31they were able to get out there and perform, and there were a lot
- 10:33of things that They said after the game that you know, he didn't want
- 10:37to share, and that's fine. What happens in the locker room kind of
- 10:39stays in the locker room. But there was a lot that led to this
- 10:43moment, and he said that he had a really good conversation with Chris Holtman
- 10:48kind of leading up to the game, not today or anything like that,
- 10:50but leading up to the game. And again, the pieces are there.
- 10:56That is probably the most confounding thing about this Ohio State team is you look
- 11:01at the pieces that they have. You look at Bruce Thornton, you look
- 11:05at jameson Battle, you look at Roddy Gale, But for whatever reason,
- 11:09they've not been able to kind of get over that, to get over that
- 11:13hump. And today it just all clicked. Ohio State was able to counter
- 11:18punch every time that Purdue went on the offense. I brought up my shot
- 11:22sheet as we were talking. With a minute thirty eight, they tied it
- 11:24up a sixty five all, and then Ohio State goes on and leads the
- 11:31game whatever it is, eight to four to win it out, Battle making
- 11:35a couple making a big bank shot and then hitting a couple shots at the
- 11:39line Thornton makes it to the line and hits a couple of shots and the
- 11:43battle finishes it off. And for everything about Purdue going twenty for twenty at
- 11:46the line, Ohio State was not one hundred percent. Ohio State did not
- 11:48go to the line nearly as much as Purdue. But those are the shots
- 11:52that we've seen Ohio State miss in previous games. And you can't blow an
- 11:58eighteen point lead if you lead by eighteen. Ohio State never led by eighteen,
- 12:03so we're not talking about that exactly. Life hacks. Never build too
- 12:07big of a lead. Not exactly conventional wisdom with a basketball team, but
- 12:13it's worked out for Jake Diebler and Deebler, according to ESPN Stats Information,
- 12:18the second head coach since nineteen ninety six ninety seven to beat an AP Top
- 12:22ten team in their Division One coaching debut. I thought it was very interesting.
- 12:26Matt Painter, the Purdue coach, after the game, was asked about,
- 12:31you know, what did they do differently? How was this this different
- 12:33from a Chris Holtman team. And I thought his answer was really interesting.
- 12:39Yeah, he said, if Chris Holtman was a coach, Ohio State would
- 12:41have won this game seventy three to sixty nine, that they didn't go out
- 12:46there and do anything different. They you know, didn't you know, they
- 12:50didn't morph into something that they weren't that they just went out and played their
- 12:54game. And you know, I think he was very complimentary of Chris Holtman.
- 12:58We certainly heard some things from Tom Izzo, Michigan State head coach,
- 13:03about the circumstances of Ohio State moving on. And while while Matt Painter didn't
- 13:09come out and wasn't asked the question to lead into it directly that way,
- 13:13you know, he wasn't going to sit there and say that Ohio State suddenly
- 13:18decided that it was going to run a one to three one zone or something
- 13:22like that and just completely change up how it it went about doing business or
- 13:26anything like that. This was an Ohio State team that was dangerous to begin
- 13:31with, and you know that sometimes after a move like that, you're going
- 13:35to a team over the next couple five days is going to maybe have a
- 13:39little bit more juice or a little bit more energy. But you know,
- 13:41he went through all the stats the way you did, and you know,
- 13:43Purdue had some moments of where it had you know, favorable stat matchups,
- 13:48and Ohio State certainly had its favorable matchups, but you know, he wasn't
- 13:52going to sit there and say that Jake Diebler necessarily, you know, solved
- 13:56in enigma. And that's not taking anything away from Big Debler. That's just
- 14:01saying this is the Ohio State team that they saw on tape. And I
- 14:05saw some people online after the game saying, don't don't just give him the
- 14:09job now because he won one game. And I don't think anyone is necessarily,
- 14:13you know, racing out to give Jake Diebler the job, the permanent
- 14:18job, based on just one game. I think you know you obviously,
- 14:20Let's see what happens when they go on the road to Minnesota. If they
- 14:24win on the road to Minnesota. Okay, they haven't done that since January
- 14:26first, twenty twenty three, when it went on the road against Big Ten
- 14:28Commons team. Let's see what happens there. Let's see what happens to the
- 14:31rest of the regular season. They've got five regular season games left. They're
- 14:35all winnable to win. At Michigan State. It's going to be probably dicey,
- 14:39but they're all winnable games. Let's see where it goes. I mean,
- 14:45what in your mind does Jake Diebler need to do moving forward to be
- 14:52at least a serious candidate? I think, you know, I think ross
- 14:56Byork's probably likely path is going to start with try to find a big name
- 15:01national coach. What would Jake d you know, if he goes out and
- 15:05runs a table and they win the national championship, sure it's his job,
- 15:07but I mean there's something, there's probably something short of that that would get
- 15:11him there or at least get him to be a serious candidate. So what
- 15:15does that look like to you? What would he have to do moving forward
- 15:18to be a serious part of that conversation? He has to win four or
- 15:22five. He has to get Ohio State into the semis of the Big Ten
- 15:26Tournament. If that's good enough to net him net Ohio State Berth into the
- 15:33NCTWOA tournament. Probably even still win a game at that point, if not,
- 15:39maybe win the whole damn Ni. I don't know, but you know
- 15:43there're gonna be a lot of wins that need to happen at this point.
- 15:46You sit there and you write this quest of emotion from this Purdue game,
- 15:52Let's see what happens at Minnesota, Let's see what happens at some of these
- 15:54other games. It's really easy to sit there and say, well, you
- 15:58won this game against number two at home, so therefore things are fixed and
- 16:03you have the secret sauce and we're going to move forward with there. I
- 16:06think it's really going to take at least four wins in the regular season,
- 16:11probably a couple of wins in the Big Ten tournament, and if you just
- 16:15really want to sit there and make stuff complicated, win one in the postseason.
- 16:18And if you're in an IT, you're gonna have to win at least
- 16:21two to three times that because the n IT is the n IT and it
- 16:26just is what it is. But yeah, I don't think anybody should be
- 16:30thinking that Jake Diebler is measuring for the drapes right now. It's one game.
- 16:34That's all well and good, but you're gonna have to win a lot
- 16:37more, Yell, and he will have an opportunity to win a lot more
- 16:41later on this week when they do go on the road to Minnesota. Then
- 16:45they're Minnesota on Thursday at East Lansing for Michigan State next Sunday, and then
- 16:51home for Nebraska this following Thursday, home for Michigan on the following Sunday,
- 16:56the March the third, and then fight the regular season finale at Rutger on
- 17:00Sunday, March tenth, and then after that we'll see where it goes from
- 17:03there. But the Jake Leaf Diebler off to a pretty darn good start.
- 17:07Seventy three sixty nine for the Buckeyes over number two Perdue on Sunday. Hey,
- 17:11we're talking about basketball in this show. That's pretty notable in and of
- 17:15itself. So very good, very good start to the Jake Diebler era.
- 17:18Very impressive win for the Buckeyes. Nice job by the crowd that turned out.
- 17:22That was getting a very lively, energetic crowd. That was a that
- 17:25was a shot in Stein Center that we have not seen all that often over
- 17:27the last few years, and that was kind of it was pretty fun to
- 17:30be in there and have a crowd going back and forth like that. So
- 17:33hopefully, hopefully we get a few more of those in the coming weeks and
- 17:38coming years. So well, we will be talking basketball perhaps a little more
- 17:42in the coming days and coming weeks if the Buckeyes keep playing like that,
- 17:45and we'll certainly be talking football as well as we head into the spring of
- 17:49football season. Buck guys aren't ready to start that on the first Tuesday in
- 17:55March, so we are just over two weeks away. Goodness, pretty excited.
- 18:00So we'll be there for all of that, and we're have hopefully some
- 18:03coach interviews this week. That's the plan, so we get talking a good
- 18:06bit of football this week. We're going to have Mark on to talk a
- 18:08little recruiting tomorrow, gonna have Ross on to talk a little bit of scheme
- 18:12and take a look at Michigan's new defensive coordinator Wink Martindale on Wednesday. Show
- 18:17lots of interging stuff coming for you this week on Buckeyes tomorrow morning, and
- 18:21lots of interesting stuff coming for you as well at buckeyehuddle dot com. We
- 18:23hope to see you there. That will do it for today. Thank you
- 18:26guys all for joining us. Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.