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ZLGY 300: The City Dwelling Panthers · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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I am Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian seagull.
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How you doing tonight, buddy? Buddy, I'm tired.
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How are you? I'm right there with you had a
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long day, long day of work, long day of running a few errands
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after work, 540 wake up, calls or no fun, full week of work to
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so the Aldi on Thursday, wasn't there gotta work tomorrow.
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You know, say what you want to say.
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Yeah, I believe this when you have a Friday off.
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Thursday's can become the most energized day in the world.
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Right, that's right, man. I'm looking to Friday and it's
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great. It's there tomorrow.
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But when you have it off, it's just a sense of like I don't
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have to do anything responsible tomorrow.
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Yes, I have to wait my kids. I've got to get the other two
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virtual school, but other than that, I don't have anything
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really responsible. So I put my dad had on for a
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little bit and then just kind of Coach through the day, exactly.
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My job sometimes is a slow flow for an extended period and then
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a lot of hyperactivity for several hours to a couple days.
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So it was one of those you know four to six hours of
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hyperactivity today. So I was I was banging out
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queries left and right but I It done and you know, the bigwigs
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are happy. So that's all that matters.
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That's all the matters, right? Hey, how about this though?
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Let's just look, let's just look holistically at things.
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Next week's essentially, a two to two and a half day, work week
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with lots of football. Lots of good food, obviously,
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not as big, a family gatherings as normal and things like that,
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but still going to be a great weekend, then everyone's going
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to eat well and watch a lot of football.
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So there's nothing wrong with that, not at all, and it's going
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to be a short work week. And I'd say what Thirty to forty
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percent of people probably have Friday off to.
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That's it. 30 40 %. Yeah, if you're not in the
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retail world, you know, some corporations will you know, have
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certain jobs going on, but majority of people will have
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also. Yeah.
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Hey, Brian, let's just get to it, man.
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You know, Hokies coming after rough loss to Miami by Point
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have to travel up to the land of no change.
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That would be Heinz Field because Heinz Field, this year
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will Like on field 2 years ago, no interview Stadium morning
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there. So luckily the players have
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always prep for that, which is a good thing, but let's get to
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know the enemy Hokies go up. Again North, the pit, the forum
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for Pitt Panthers Ryan. Usually we've started on offense
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a lot but we're going to script because pit is a different
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animal. We're going to start with the
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defense. This is easily the best
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statistical defense. The Hokies have played all year
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and this is a pit team that's missing.
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Defensive tackle, Jalen Twyman who opted out very early in the
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process that he want to play this year.
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He's obviously going to be a first or second-round pick and
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then you get safety Paris, Ford who just a couple weeks ago,
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opted out for it. Again, one of those guys earlier
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this year. Me and you question?
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Why did he come back? He could have gotten drafted in
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without a doubt. The first three or four rounds
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came back. Had played very well, definitely
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improved his draft stock even higher.
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But, you know, Brian. Let's just look at the numbers
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real quick before you get into what we're looking at from them.
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They are the a total defense in the country they only give up
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296 yards. A game only 23 points per game
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again the ferry good number in rushing defense.
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Why As Brian, they are number two in the country.
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So, it's a strength on strength. Again, they are only giving up
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78 yards per game. So Braun, what are we seeing
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from this type defense? So, the big thing it's kind of
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the, almost a dinosaur. We really talk about it, man.
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They run a true 4-3 defense. And, you know, most of the time
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when we talk about four man, front defenses in college
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football, these days, it's either some version of the 425
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or kind of a multiple multiple front situation, but these guys
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are a true for 3, that means they unless it's like long down.
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So they usually have three linebackers on the field, but
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when we talk about their strength, the strength is
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definitely their front seven and especially their deal on.
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Even without you Twyman in there, they still got some studs
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up front and their safety play is very good and I know they're
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missing forward now but their safety play is very good as
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well. They're really only weak area of
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this team is probably their cornerbacks and that's not
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necessarily a weakness. It's just not a strength.
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Yeah, When you mentioned those defensive that defensive line,
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and I tell you what, they're leaving the country with 38, sat
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total on the year. They're also leading the country
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in tackles for loss, they get almost 12 per game, which is
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pretty wild and those two defensive lineman.
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The first thing I noticed was the 757 product, Patrick Jones.
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Yep, we did offer him, we he was offered so if I want to get up
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there and scream, we don't offer the kids, he was offered 65, 260
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lbs so far this year, 34, tackles 11 tackles for loss,
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eight sacks. Hey bro, don't you wish?
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We had our scheme? We're trying to run this year
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when we were recruiting this kid a lot easier.
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Well, uh a lot easier to sell. Ya other guy defensive end
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against 65 to 70 Richard, Weaver twenty seven, tackles 11 and a
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half for the lost, five and a half sacks.
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So you mentioned that their front seven is good even without
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climate and they would be borderline their lead anyway.
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They might be the best defensive country of Twyman had come back.
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So what are you seeing not only from Jones and Weaver?
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But the other pieces of this line, May the big thing is that
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both of those defensive ends Weaver in June's they get after
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the passer, you know, they're pretty balanced as well.
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They're good against the run but When they get into those third
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third and long situations where they can pin their ears back,
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they are damn scary and being defensive ends.
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You see a lot of downs where they're playing meet at the
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quarterback where they're both kind of just bearing down on the
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quarterback after they beat the tackle.
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So, our tackles are going to need to have a pretty damn good
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game to at least slow these guys down because there's no way that
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they're going to consistently, stop them the whole game, but if
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we could just slow them down where they're not able to take
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over. I think we'll be okay there
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Weaver, he has great power with this pass rush and then Jones is
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kind of more of the speed Edge guy.
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That has a couple really good pass rush moves that can throw
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guys off balance. So again across the board,
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they're good. But those are the two guys to
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keep an eye on because they make plays in The Run and as well in
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the in the passing game getting sacks.
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Absolutely. Well like you said, they're
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really there is no weakness on this team even the corners who,
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you know, there aren't they aren't great but they aren't
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bad. You know.
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But we look at the other pieces of this defense.
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I see really, you know, sort of pronouncing his name right?
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Sir, visha, Denis, Denis the sophomore 61 230 linebacker out
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of Syracuse, with 51. Tackles Force acts, 13, half
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tackles for loss. Jesus Does Body that we're
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looking at get below double-digit tackles for loss
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that scares the hell out of me you talk about the safety play.
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Yeah they don't have a four and four before he opted out, forty
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five tackles three-and-a-half tackles for loss three
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interceptions. That's why I said, he solidified
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he played it. He said, I think I'm good.
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I think I've proven that I am going to be once they were
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statistically, out of any chance of playing for a ACC
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Championship, he's like, dude. Salute putting played well yeah.
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Well so it was like and I mean he wasn't just out there you
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know by this time he was out there bawling his ass off until
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it did make sense for him to risk another injury.
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Exactly to play out the season and we talked about Ford in our
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in our you know leading up to the season reviewing all the
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teams. He was one of those elite
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players. Well, the other safety is just
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as believe. You look at Damar Hamlin, the
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Redshirt You're 61 195. He was also a top 24/7 player
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back in twenty sixteen forty six, tackles three-and-a-half
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tackles for loss for him, and then just kind of looking at, we
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look specifically at The Upfront numbers, but just more overall
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information. They're really good at stopping
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on third down, which has been a real issue.
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For the Hokies on offense, they're only allowing 35 and a
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half percent conversion rates, they've also forced 14
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turnovers, which is top 15 in the country.
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I mean Brian you know what are you seeing now that we've kind
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of moved back to the the second and third levels?
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What are you seeing from these guys?
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So Denise is a play maker at linebacker.
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He runs well sideline to sideline in Pursuit he gets sent
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on blitzes a lot on third down and long situations really
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putting pressure on the quarterback and he's just a guy
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that in the Run game when things kind of Get bumped to the
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outside. He's there, making the play
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playing underneath the tackles playing outside the tackles and
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making some of those tackles for loss.
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So he's really a guy that kind of does it all.
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And he really is an asset to that front and let's that those
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guys on the defensive line, you know, pin their ears back more,
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because he cleans up, you know, any of the mess that is that
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it's kind of left from those guys getting up field and then
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let's take a look. You know, you mentioned Damar.
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Hamlin, man, I mean, forward got a lot of the publicity, a lot of
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the lot of the big talk, but I mean, Hamlin is also a guy
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that's been playing at a very high level for several years
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now, now he's really great and run support from the safety
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position. So he gets good good fits there
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and and cleans up the messes there when things get sent out
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to the spill area and he occasionally gets exploited in
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coverage but when he's there to make the play he breaks up a lot
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of passes occasion will get an interception.
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So you know, he's a guy that we got to definitely account for
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both in the Run game and when we're throwing the football, So,
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you know, there's really no weakness to this defense.
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There's only areas that aren't great.
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Yeah. And you talk about being there,
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the two intercepts new mentioning.
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He's also got five pass breakups for safety.
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That's a pretty good number. So, you know, Brian, we're
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looking at every level best defense.
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We've placed we're coming off, probably.
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I don't know, three of the four last week's on offense.
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We just it hasn't clicked Lewis bit about the dead click.
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Now you're going against this really good offense that I'm
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shooting this defense. It's going to stack the Box
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because going to take our strength away.
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I mean this is not going to be an easy task in as a person that
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I'm kind of going on, emotional swingle, you know, give me some
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things. We've got to do so I can take
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the emotion out and look more at it.
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You know analytically? Yeah.
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I mean the big thing is going to be the intermediate passing
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game. It's been something that we've
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talked about the last few weeks. It's going to need to play a big
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role again. But what's also going to need to
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play a big role is throwing the ball.
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Some outside, the numbers we need to take advantage of the
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fact that if there is an area that isn't exceptional in his
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defense it's cornerback and if we're going to make some plays
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that's where we're going. You to take advantage of them.
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So need to make good connections with receivers to outside the
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numbers, try to stretch the field on them, some but also
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give guys the ball in space and let them get off the sidelines
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as well. Make them have to tackle.
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And as far as the running game, man, I'd like to see us.
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Try to run some up the middle, but also get to the edge with
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them playing, you know, traditional 43.
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Yes, they've got guys that can at the linebacker position that
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shed blocks better than like a nickel or Whip or or whatever.
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That type of position is for only given defense but they're
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not quite as quick if we can get our guys to the edge and kind of
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get up that outside alley. We might have some chances to
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exploit them in the running game as well.
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So Brian when you say that are you thinking these are these are
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the three thoughts I have. When I when you say what you
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just said there. And we've seen it a couple times
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jet sweeps. Yep, getting to the edge, the
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little toss play that we run where essentially the running
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back in hand and take three or four steps.
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And then he pitches the ball where it's essentially.
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They've cleared the outside tackle or enough on his behind.
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And I'd like that play to be an option play.
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I was going to say the speed option, speed options, forcing
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those linebackers to get to in enforcing the safety.
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Become a, if you're running that pitch play.
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I want Hendon have the option to hold that ball and get up field
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as well. So I don't want it to be an
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automatic pitch and yeah, speed option would be great.
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Quarterback lead outside would be something we would run on
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occasion to mix things up. Huh, on occasion, not, that's
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why I qualified it. I qualified it.
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Yeah, we don't need to run our quarterback every play.
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Especially if you know Herbert's looking to take more like 60% of
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the running back snaps this week.
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Versus, you know what, 25 percent last week if he can get
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up to 60% with the guy that you really trust, especially you
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know, with Holston coming along some in last game as well, you
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got to feel good about your situation at running back.
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Absolutely Brian. Now as good, as their defense,
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Is Elite status, you know, defense, this sheet here, their
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offenses, it's just terrible. I mean, if there's no other ways
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to say about it, there's a lot of things we can look at the
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first couple things I'm going to look at Brian.
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They're only gaining 357 yards per game, that's just not good
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at all and where it's really bad is their average in 104.
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On the ground and 253 in the air, which with what how he
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played against the run. This is good.
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This is similar to be see where BC got like 130 yards, but it's
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like, that's okay. We were giving up a ton of
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yards. Yeah, those two positions.
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One is led by Kenny Pickett so far this season in six games,
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five, fifteen hundred ninety, nine yards, eight and eight
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touchdowns. Interceptions again, six, not
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eight games, he did Miss to due to injury sixty-two percent
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completion. We've seen Kenny Pickett play in
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person. Exactly one year to the day,
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this game will be played, which is pretty funny.
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Yeah. And then we've got the 58 175
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running back out of Fort Lauderdale Vincent Davis, only
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three more than 13 yards. Rushing about three of carry
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four touchdowns also pretty good out of the backfield with 104
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receiving yards on seven 19 reception.
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So Brian, what are you seeing out of picket and Davis
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primarily? So let's let's start with pick
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it. Obviously, you know, we've
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talked a lot about Kenny picket on this program between, you
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know, some of the stuff we talked about the beginning of
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the Season, some of the, our pics throughout the year.
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You know, some of the stuff we look at other tape as we have
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been scouting other Since we've talked about Kenny Pickett, he's
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a steady quarterback, he's not a lie, he steady.
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He's a good quarterback, but nothing more and because of how
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much they struggle to run the ball.
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That's a problem for them. They live and die.
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By the day that Kenny pick. It has true.
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And you know, he had a for his career, he was kind of he was
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good at the gate but he's only took him.
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Taking kind of baby steps each year since then he's not taking
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those those giant leaps in terms of his his growth at the
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position but he will make plays with his arm and with his leg.
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But he also will make throws that kill drives and then just
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kind of a guy that hasn't been good enough with the other
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offensive deficiencies, they have to really take them from a
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adequate offense to an offense that can really make them Em,
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you know, compete for an ACC Championship game.
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So, I mean, that that's what you get with Kenny Pickett.
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Vincent Davis, I like what he does he's kind of like a You
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kind of that the traditional scatback he's like a one cut
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really short choppy steps. Think like, Darren Sproles type
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running back, not not have obviously that Elite level of a
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player but he's got that kind of build in that kind of game
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smaller and Shifty one cut, good change of Direction and gets
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through holes. Pretty good when they're there
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but he does need the holes to be there to make a play when it's
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kind of like A lot of garbage in the middle, he'll get kind of
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gummed up, get thrown for some tackles for loss there and he's
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good out of the backfield. He can kind of Shifty in space
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so that that's that that's where he is.
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He's the biggest asset for them is when they can get it, the
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ball in space or get the ball in the running game.
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When there's a big hole there, but they don't do a very good
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job of making a lot of big holes.
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This is not an offensive line that does it does.
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They're probably average to above average in past Pro but
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definitely below average in their run game.
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They fit up well but they just don't they don't move guys off
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the ball and this style of offense that they run.
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You kind of need to have the holes there to make the running
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game hum. You're right man and you talk
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about the offensive line and I'm glad you mentioned them because
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they're they're about middle of the pack.
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Giving up sacks about to a game. So they've given up 16 sack so
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far this year, but they are Dreadful you do about the
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tackles for loss. You talk about, not making a
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running game, they are 126th in the country, Ron in tackles for
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loss, allowed not all on the line.
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But when you see that number, you know, that that is either a
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average to below average offensive line at run, blocking
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their given up about a the game and they're losing 30 yards, a
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game. Mon this?
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Yeah, that's me. You talk about having what
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average game is what anywhere between what seven and ten
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drives depending on Flow? Yeah, basically you're saying to
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yourself. We're starting first and 13
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which this offense that's really tough to come over now, couple
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other things. Brian.
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For I hit to really to me these guys are just their keys.
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On offense. Not converting.
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Great at third down 35.8, but believe it or not.
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They have the 34th most first downs.
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So when I see that, I think well, when they're getting solid
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yards on first and second, usually they're getting the
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first down. You get on the third there, in a
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whole heap of trouble, they've turned the ball over nine times
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and I think without question, and we've said it a couple times
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if they had a decent offense, they'd be 6 into or 71.
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Yeah, if we had their defense, I don't think we had lost a game
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this year. I think, vice versa.
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If they had our office I don't think they would have lost a
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game so far this year. Maybe Notre Dame but those two
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key wide receivers run. The first one is the true
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freshman wide receiver out of Frederick.
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Maryland the 61 170 top 24/7 player, Jordan Addison in his
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true freshman season already lighting up.
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The stat sheet 611 receiving yards on 52.
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Receptions averaging about 12 perception, three touchdowns a
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long of 75 also they get them involved a little bit in the Run
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game. He has seven rushes for 55
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yards. The other more experienced guy
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is shocky, Jaques newest? Very interesting name, the
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junior out of Florida. Six foot 185 273 yards on 23
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receptions. No touchdowns does have a long
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of 68 and again, he's averaging about 12.
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What are you seeing from these two, guys?
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Brian of why essentially to make this team go, they've got to go.
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So let's start with Jordan. Addison and he's the reason that
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I think Kenny Pickett is taking a small step forward this year.
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He is a very versatile receiver, he's kind of your your guy that
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can work underneath. The defense has catches a lot of
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the quick hitting Route. Some of those out some of those
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screens you can do a little bit with them, he's taking, you
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know, one, one catch for I think a 75 yard touchdown but he's
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also the guy that's gonna get a move the sticks for you with
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that stuff underneath and get some of those dirty yards, any
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runs really good routes for a young receiver.
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So it's it's something we need to take into account their that
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he's gonna be able to get himself open even against good
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coverage. And he's also the guy that they
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used sometimes in those jet sweeps or those times when
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they're going to give the ball out of the backfield to a
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receiver. So he really kind of does it all
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for them. He is the, the player that's
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made this offense, go from a very plotting and methodical
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offense last year to at least one that when things are
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connecting, it looks pretty good.
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Chucky jacques-louis. He's the guy that's going to be
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the stick mover. He's going to get those outside
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the numbers catches please bigger than its frame.
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I know you said six foot what 180 185 plays bigger than that
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they'll throw him on the on a fade and post.
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But you know, a lot of hitch has a lot of, you know, 10, 12 yard
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outs. He's a guy that's going to kind
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of move the sticks for them and get them this hard first downs
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when they get When they're in those third and long situations,
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where his Addison's, the guy that gets them in those, you
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know, shorter down and distance areas on first and second, when
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they can kind of go against the average and throw on first down.
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So both of them are going to be key to get their offense moving
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and hopefully we can do something to slow those guys
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down. Alright again run, I'll kind of
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reiterate it again. If they again have a decent
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offense. Sky's the limit swarm but they
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don't quote. If they could just run the ball
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where you could key on those two guys.
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I think you can say a little bit more about them but they just
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consistently cannot run the ball where you really can focus on
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kind of controlling what would Addison and Jacques we do.
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And also you know occasionally Kenny pick it makes a bad throw
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these receivers as good as they are.
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Have had a lot of drops this year so you know a lot of times
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they end up The ball a little bit and then kind of shooting
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themselves in the foot. So hopefully we can make sure we
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don't break and give up the big one so we can force them to kind
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of beat themselves a little bit. So how do we beat them?
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I mean, obviously our defense is not World beaters right now and
27:10
it's one of those weeks where it's like we're not going
27:12
against an offense with a ton of weapons and showing a lot.
27:16
What can we do to be? I think we're going to need to
27:20
get after Kenny Pickett we need to make him.
27:22
Uncomfortable. We need to make him throw before
27:24
he's ready. We need to sack him and hit him.
27:27
Whether that's bringing for and getting guys like bar, no and
27:31
Justice Reed meeting in the backfield whether that's
27:36
bringing one or two extra guys in the zone Blitz or whether
27:39
it's going kind of man free and you know bringing guys from from
27:43
areas that they're not expecting, we need to keep the
27:47
the receivers in front of us when they catch it, we need to
27:52
make sure We're where we need to be.
27:53
And, as always tackle, tackle tackle, especially, Jordan,
28:02
Addison. So just, the tackle, tackle
28:07
tackles becoming the weekly number three, trying to beat a
28:12
dead horse here, but I mean, as much as we struggled with it off
28:16
and on this season, I'm going to keep emphasizing it until I see
28:19
several games in a row where it's not an issue.
28:23
It's true man. One other point before we get
28:26
over to the pivotal players points Personnel because y'all
28:32
it's the pivotal players is becoming more than that.
28:37
Similar to Miami Braun very penalized team very
28:40
undisciplined team which would Pat Narducci.
28:43
Are you shocked? Not at all?
28:45
It's that yards. So similar basically they're
28:49
giving you a entire football field.
28:51
We did see that against Miami several times that helped us out
28:55
significantly. So hopefully this time it can
28:58
help us out significantly and get us a w in the win column.
29:02
All right? Brian, do you want to announce
29:05
who's number one? Hendon hooker, note, even have
29:13
to change it. Is y'all in all seriousness,
29:18
Saturday night after we finish recording, we just kind of
29:22
start, you know, we're watching late game 7 on beers talking
29:26
this and that, and we just said it, right?
29:29
Then I'm like, Brian henin's. Got to play out of his but the
29:32
rest of the year for us to win any games and he's like, yeah,
29:35
so henin's. Probably going to stay.
29:36
A number one, unless something significantly changes, unless
29:41
her bird gets 100% healthy and we can start 100% leaning on our
29:45
running game. Like, we did the first four to
29:48
five weeks of the Season Hendon. Hookers going to be the guy
29:52
gotta pee. Now, number two is a group
29:57
group. Not a specific player.
30:00
We've done some specific server last few weeks, but as Brian has
30:04
stated numerous times, V of average group on this defense
30:09
has their quarterback. So our wide receivers this week,
30:12
have to step up. All of them, it seems like
30:16
Mitchell is going to be back and I'm putting him in the wide
30:19
receiver group because he is that versatile, but they have to
30:22
be because we've already said it, they're going to put it in
30:28
the box. They're going to Meant to stop
30:29
the run. And they're going to probably
30:33
occasionally dare us to take shots deep.
30:36
Got it. We need to make those plays when
30:39
they're available need to make those plays when they're
30:43
available. But we also as you mentioned
30:45
earlier as part of your keys we've got to run some
30:47
intermediate stuff. We've got to let it get quick to
30:50
not let those guys continuously tee off on finding so hopefully
30:57
we draw the right game plan up. Now, the third peace.
31:02
Y'all is this abstract Abstract, this was my brainchild and I had
31:08
a when I put it on that at all Brian.
31:11
My reason behind it. But I think because of how good
31:14
this defense is, how good they are on third down.
31:18
It's going to be our second down play calls.
31:23
Yeah. And I say that because it's one
31:25
of those things where we know who our offensive coordinator is
31:30
we go out there and on first down, we attempt to running
31:33
inside Zone and we get a yard and a half.
31:36
It is second and nine. We know how to me and you just
31:42
looking at the data. You looking at the tape you
31:44
telling me what you're seeing on the tape, we know how good their
31:47
pass rush is if we are at second and 9 in things like that,
31:53
getting three to four positive yards to set up second and
31:58
manageable or third and manageable.
32:00
They're going to just be able to go back and T off and that's
32:04
going to be bad. So if you're seeing on this game
32:07
those second Downplays Brian and they are bad and they're getting
32:11
no gain or we getting one yard. Shoot me now.
32:15
Yep, I'm with you, man. I'm with you 100% on this
32:19
because as you said, and as we've seen a lot this year, You
32:25
know, sometimes first down is the down.
32:27
You want to get creative and unless you have success on that
32:31
second down is where you go with the kind of bread and butter
32:35
please. And then you tend to Gage, what
32:39
those plays will be based on what you ran on first down and
32:43
how much success that we need to be not, not predictable with
32:48
those play calls, but we need to, definitely make sure that
32:51
we're smart with how we're setting up those plays and smart
32:56
with understanding down and distance.
32:57
And that we don't want to get into third and long situations
33:01
against this defensive line. I mean you don't want to get in
33:03
third down third and long situations gets any line but
33:06
line like this that also will Occasionally, bring pressure on
33:09
third down with those. Linebackers is pretty scary.
33:13
It's the truth, man. So again y star s down plays at
33:18
4:00, if you see us being in third and 7 and plus whatever,
33:25
you're drinking sure, you have a lot of it because it's going to
33:28
be a rough day to watch the offense.
33:31
All right, Brian, let's flip it on defense.
33:36
As far as pivotal players to little Personnel, pivotal points
33:40
that we have not mentioned that much just year.
33:43
But with what they do on offense, it's the corners
33:48
Corners. Absolutely Corners are going to
33:51
have to cover. Well, Corners are going to
33:52
tackle wellis, like I said, especially Addison, who will
33:56
work underneath, kind of some of wherever where our zones are.
34:00
So we're gonna have to come up and make those tackles in space.
34:05
So, it's going to be important that they cover well in tackle.
34:08
Well. Yeah.
34:10
And you know we don't know Jermaine wall or status at this
34:13
point. If he still banged up I'm almost
34:16
thinking he's out for the year continue to let Dorian strong
34:20
Brian Murray or mine Chapman. Continue to develop in, you
34:27
know, I think the as the way, the first one rolls on its The
34:34
first one kind of goes into the second one.
34:36
Right? Yeah.
34:37
We get it Saturday night in the number.
34:39
Two thing that's got to happen. Is if you tell me, Justin,
34:43
Hamilton calls that game this week, they're not going to get
34:50
to 17. That's the way I feel he kept
34:54
his coverage. Is he mixed up?
34:56
The blitz is he was going some man.
34:58
He was going to man, free going, man, 0.
35:01
Then there were Concepts where he was throwing everybody.
35:04
He had Miami off balance enough of that game, slowed them down.
35:11
It's the play calls. Can he do it again Ron?
35:14
Yeah, I think you can. I think I think what he finally
35:17
said was I'm going to stop with the calls, you know, sometimes
35:23
coaches get into this, especially play callers the we
35:27
do what we do mentality. And I think he finally broke out
35:31
of the we do, we do mentality and said, I'm going to call a
35:35
game that's going to keep the other team off balance.
35:39
Regardless of what we do. Well, regardless of what our
35:43
normal philosophy is mixing back in some of the schemes that bud
35:49
used that really we're successful with the type of
35:53
players we already have on the roster was a smart move.
35:57
I think maybe we should have pivoted to this some earlier in
36:00
the season to kind of get some of those guys comfortable
36:04
because a lot of times we didn't do enough when they looked
36:08
uncomfortable too. Get them back into the game and
36:12
I feel like mixing things up definitely kept them interested
36:15
and let them know that. Hey we're going to let you do
36:19
what's comfortable for you. But occasionally you're going to
36:21
have to get a little uncomfortable and do what you've
36:23
been coached. And I think the mix of that was
36:26
good for them. It really was.
36:28
And again if he calls it like he did last week, I think we hold
36:32
this team down hopefully enough for a win.
36:34
All right, third, very controversial here.
36:40
If we you know, we don't we don't we're straight-laced most
36:43
time we don't go crazy controversy.
36:45
Although last few Saturday nights in the amount of alcohol
36:49
in the discussions that have been happening, you can say
36:51
they're controversial but after the way he played last week
36:56
after the first drive, its Dax because if Dax plays that way
37:00
against this team, he's going to have another big day.
37:03
Yeah Dax was one of the better players on the defense last
37:07
week, which I haven't said it all this season.
37:11
We probably haven't played since 2018.
37:13
Yeah, he had a couple games last year, where he played.
37:17
Well, not great. But well, this was the first
37:22
game where other than the first drive?
37:24
He looked like he wasn't overthinking and trying to do
37:30
too much. He let it be let the game come
37:33
to him. He was in the right position
37:37
when he was had coverage responsibilities in the flat.
37:40
Did a good job of Not letting the quarterback get outside and
37:47
bus big runs. He used the sidelines as
37:50
leverage. He turned guys back inside when
37:53
he needed to, it was a sound. We played game by Dax and if he
37:57
can do that again, that's going to be big for us.
38:01
It's absolutely the truth. Because with X being able to
38:03
spell, Richard being able to either start at backer, or spell
38:09
Tisdale. Keep that rotation and keep
38:11
those guys fresh twitch. You know, when we see that we
38:15
know, as we get deeper into the game, we don't Bulls we don't
38:20
leverage or not. I thought that was going to be
38:22
one of the strengths at the start of the season was having
38:24
three guys that you could count on and just between not really
38:30
getting the new system and a couple guys coming in out of
38:32
shape and Tisdale being banged up first part of the season and
38:37
covid. I mean, it was a Kind of, kind
38:41
of a tough run there for the linebackers and hopefully, with
38:43
some of the things jams done to mix up, the calls that these
38:46
guys will start showing out again, like they did last year
38:49
in some spots, absolutely. All right, Brian real quick.
38:54
Jalen Holston, gets the 25 earned it earned it, it will
38:59
only matter if they continue to use him correctly.
39:10
Last week, he was effective, no one with the, with the 70, 80 to
39:16
85 percent juice, it kept juice. Fresh, you imagine juice of 95.
39:21
100 percent were Jalen's going in there, and getting some of
39:24
the little, you know, some of the harder inside Zone runs.
39:27
Yeah, maybe start leaning on Holst, a little bit as the spell
39:32
guy. Find something for Blackshear to
39:35
do outside of the box. Wait a second.
39:39
Brian. Didn't you say earlier that if
39:41
we need to exploit the edges there's a certain guy that can
39:45
exploit the edges in our wide receiving courtesans Blackshear,
39:48
please do it please. So bronze eye on things and
39:53
having get belligerent on Saturday.
39:56
Brian. I looked at the the we're
39:59
getting in the truck and we're heading up to Pittsburgh looks
40:01
like we're going maroon white maroon That's what it looks
40:05
like, man. I'm okay with that, you know, I
40:10
don't hate it, I don't love it, I don't hate it.
40:12
It's kind of the You know, not necessarily what I default to,
40:18
but at the same time, it's kind of kind of classic as well.
40:22
So because hi buddy. You know, we had to get here,
40:27
right? We did.
40:29
Yeah, to get to the predictions. You know what?
40:33
I'll go ahead and start this out right now.
40:35
Just my feeling as a fan. What I've seen in the last pain
40:40
is just it's worrisome where I am at all.
40:44
On this coaching staff, where I'm at on on, you know, kind of
40:51
all that specs on the team, I'm down on them.
40:54
And really, I'm going to continue to stay down seeing how
40:57
good this defense is and with the this ugly thought in the
41:02
back of my head, that the old defense is going to show up for
41:05
a couple quarters. I'm going to go pit
41:10
unfortunately I think pit going to go 2827 and again what I keep
41:19
saying there's going to be drives where we're going to be
41:22
at the doorstep that if we punch it in we can win this game but
41:25
we're going to kick field goals. Okay.
41:29
Okay. The last week we kicked it, we
41:32
kicked a couple field goals. We attempted a long field goal
41:35
and essentially one-point game. That's what loses you couple
41:42
times, man, but we should win this football game.
41:45
I don't know if we're gonna win this football game, it's the
41:52
conundrum and because I don't trust what teams going to come
41:55
off the bus. I don't trust with the coaches
41:57
are going to do. In crunch time.
41:59
So it's hard for me to say 100% like if you just said, we're
42:04
going to get the best game from our coaches.
42:06
I'd say we probably win, but I can't guarantee that you said we
42:11
were to get the best game from our offensive line and not the
42:14
game. We got last week, I'd say we
42:15
probably win but I don't know that we're going to get that.
42:17
So You know what I'm going to do, I'm going to take, I'm gonna
42:25
go out on a limb here. I'm going to say that enough of
42:29
what we need, gets off the bus and we pull out a tight when
42:32
31:28 rhyme goes 31:28. Vti take it 2827 because we kick
42:41
field goals versus scoring touchdowns.
42:44
All right, let's roll on get into our pickups for this week.
42:49
Last week. Brian, we salvaged 103.
42:53
And to, for both of us, I completely whiffed on the
42:57
Michigan game. You nailed that one, but I got
42:59
to UVA game, right? Unfulfilled, that's back-to-back
43:03
weeks of you nailing UVA, man. Jesus, she said, give them all
43:10
the credit. You know, they're there.
43:14
Well, let's start. Let's start with tomorrow night,
43:17
Syracuse. Louisville Louisville, is laying
43:21
eggs. 18 and a half points JB and Hawkins has opted out for
43:25
the season run. I led with the first you'd lead
43:28
with this. What do you say man?
43:32
Q sucks but I don't know what team Louisville is going to be
43:35
especially with Hawkings up and out.
43:37
So give me Hughes, I'm with you 18 points when literally your
43:46
most consistent offensive player is not going to be there. 18
43:52
points way too much to lay. We know how bad that Louisville
43:55
defense is I think Louisville wins.
43:58
I think he's probably going to be an entertaining game, but 18f
44:01
is just no way to go. Just play.
44:03
Cover three and spy kind of game whole game and you probably
44:08
going to be okay. Absolutely.
44:10
Alright, FSU Clemson. Never thought I'd say this in
44:16
this game, Clemson is laying 35 and a half points.
44:23
And with all the turmoil players opting out injured players down
44:28
at FSU, I'm laying the 35 and a half.
44:30
I think Debo enjoys putting it on FSU and I think he will put
44:34
it on it, especially with Trevor Lawrence back this week.
44:40
I'm torn between the dumpster fire and the fact that Clemson
44:44
probably won't have to put their foot on the gas for four
44:47
quarters. So that's what I'm weighing and
44:50
I'm going to say that. I think Clemson wins by 32.
44:56
So, I'll take FS you in this one.
44:59
Does FSU break 14? I think they get to 17. alright
45:09
think they get to 17 so I'm saying Clemson is somewhere
45:12
around 50 why who's laying now 39 and a
45:31
half point was say you Oh man, you know, you've had, you've had
45:38
a run of luck picking UVA, so I'll take him here against good
45:42
old Abilene Christian. Um, I'm gonna go get some this
45:48
week, Brian, especially with the big opt-out Abilene.
45:55
Christian is not a good school, they're wanting for their
45:58
one-in-four. They've kept it competitive a
46:00
couple games but with UVA having probably their most talented
46:06
interior defensive lineman up or essentially getting the transfer
46:10
portal this week and then we know how thin they are on
46:13
offensive line. One of They're Stars went out.
46:18
I think they win the game by like 30 so somewhere like 42:10,
46:25
but I don't think I can't wait. Thirty nine and a half with
46:27
them? I think they know they have to
46:29
play conservative play, not to lose play smart.
46:33
So I'm going to go with howling Christian and thirty nine and a
46:36
half. Okay.
46:38
All right, I don't hate it. You know, when you have that
46:43
many points you really can't hate.
46:46
Like if you're, if you're if you're if you're taking the
46:50
points, you know it's one of those things where you just
46:53
constantly like you just need to freaking keep scoring.
46:56
Like do not stop. Why are you putting your fourth
46:59
string talent in your only up 28?
47:03
You need to score, keep it going.
47:08
All right, got a responsibility here, responsibility winning
47:12
money. All right, Brian, let's do this
47:14
one. Next Liberty in, NC State you
47:18
seen this one? Yeah, this one.
47:22
You shot by that. You shot by state Lane three and
47:26
a half. Yeah, that's, that's, that's a
47:29
weird line. Very weird line.
47:35
You get to pick first on this one, who you going with?
47:38
This is the one that's kind of torn me.
47:40
The other ones on our list, I felt good about this.
47:44
One was back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, but I'm
47:49
going to take a liberty. I will take them in points.
47:52
I know I'm not going to say they're going to win this game
47:54
outright, but I think they're playing well enough, you know,
47:59
with the backup quarterback down in NC State to To at least keep
48:07
it within a field goal and get that book when I would take
48:12
Liberty out, right? So Give me liberty liberty with
48:17
a moneyline. They're all right, Brian.
48:20
Let's go to the big game in the Big Ten in the Horseshoe at high
48:26
noon on Saturday, Indiana and Ohio State, Ohio State Lane 20,
48:34
Anna The feel-good Story of the Year.
48:37
I've not been able to see if the coach's son you're doing.
48:41
Okay. Got, you know, kind of banged
48:43
up, pretty scary, last Saturday, but what do you think with this
48:47
one, Brian? I unfortunately think the
48:52
feel-good kind of runs out in this one.
48:56
I like Ohio State laying the 20. I don't think it's gonna be much
48:59
over that, but I think it'll be about three scores.
49:04
I'm going to flip and go the opposite way.
49:06
I think Indiana is going to cover it.
49:08
I think Indiana is going to give a Tougher fight, and what you're
49:14
thinking? I think they can, I think they
49:17
can score enough points to stay right in earshot, probably lose
49:23
somewhere, between 10 and 13. So I like getting 20, I do see
49:26
that as a high-scoring game, I don't know what the over-under
49:29
is, let me look real quick, I'm just now and then put the
49:32
because efforting pretty rare for me everything.
49:44
Yeah. All right, Brian.
49:53
Let's go true Pac-12 after dark. All right, a 10:30 kick between
50:02
the Utes of Utah and the USC Trojans.
50:07
As the Trojans, laying three and a half or three points.
50:12
Straight up here, having a lookie lookie at this.
50:15
This is in Utah. Not sure if they've got fans.
50:18
This is Utah's first game. They had everything.
50:21
Their first two were cancelled. USC is winning by the skin of
50:26
their teeth. But I think this is going to be
50:30
one of those is hard-nosed and tough as Utah plays USC's, had
50:35
those couple weeks to figure out the Kinks.
50:38
I think they win this game by more than three points.
50:43
So, give me USC. Lay the three.
50:49
Not so fast. My friend not so fast.
50:53
Give me Utah. I don't think that I think
50:57
Utah's going to maybe shock them a little bit with maybe some
51:01
wrinkles that they're putting in at the gate.
51:02
So I think you time I jump up on them pretty quick and USC having
51:07
a play a little comeback and it's going to come up, just
51:09
short. All right.
51:13
So Brian takes the three with Utah.
51:17
And Brian, our last one here, one of my favorite rivalries.
51:25
In the sport of college football, Oklahoma State,
51:30
Oklahoma, Oklahoma is land 7. It's Bedlam, it's always a good
51:36
game. Even though it felt like four
51:37
years. Oklahoma, dominated it, but you
51:40
always feel that rivalry there. What do you think on this one,
51:43
Oklahoma Lane seven? It's a tough one man.
51:50
This is a tough one. I like Oklahoma to win this one
51:54
out, right? But I don't know if I like that
51:56
seven line. So give me your key State.
52:00
All right. I am with you on that.
52:04
I think I don't know who's going to win this game when I feel
52:09
like it's not going to win, you have to take the other side.
52:12
You have to take the points because you know Oklahoma wins
52:17
by anywhere from 1 to 6 your winner either way.
52:23
So and the other piece Oklahoma state has some semblance of a
52:31
defense. Follow means they'd be
52:35
undefeated if their defense had remembered to play the fourth
52:37
quarter against Texas, which I'm still kind of baffled that, but
52:41
yes, it is what it is, man. All right, so there are our
52:46
picks for the week. We'll see how the cakes up.
52:49
Obviously, coming off of winning week.
52:51
We're feeling better about our picks this week, mr.
52:54
Siegel oh. Yes, sir.
52:56
You have advised me that you are doing some tests, smoking this
53:00
weekend. You're doing doing some, some
53:03
dry runs. Normally, I do a full bird for
53:06
Thanksgiving, but this, this year, I'm going to to breast
53:13
mixing in some different different things.
53:14
So, I'm doing a couple dry runs of a couple new rubs.
53:18
I want to try that are more or seasonal, a couple injections
53:23
and then based on that. Picking the two that I want to
53:27
use on the big day. So, we'll have some turkey this
53:32
weekend and then we'll have some more turkey come Thursday.
53:36
So, it's I will be turkey heavy for the next week or so, man.
53:40
So basically a week or so held sounds like, if you're doing it
53:44
this weekend and then you're going to do it on Thanksgiving,
53:46
you're going to be legitimately eating turkey sandwiches for 10
53:49
days. Well, I'm throwing a good amount
53:53
of what I'm doing this weekend to the neighbors.
53:55
To my pops. Oh yeah.
53:58
I'll have a probably have a couple meals and maybe a good
54:01
good Sammy out of it or two. But you know, a good chunk of
54:05
it's going elsewhere. And then the other two will be
54:08
just for the the big day and 44 leftover, Sammy's after that.
54:13
So, very nice. Very nice man.
54:16
All right, check in everything here.
54:19
We've got a good Collegiate football, game, Tulsa, Tulane.
54:22
Tulsa scored last play of the game to tie it up.
54:25
Up. Hey 21:21 and the Cardinals and
54:30
the Seahawks here, also a good game so we'll be watching that
54:34
as we wrap this up or anything else.
54:36
Breaking on Pokey front or college football front, I
54:40
haven't seen anything big man. I think we are good to go.
54:43
Alright, so that is going to wrap up this episode of The
54:47
Boundary Corner podcast. I'm Curtis Wilson.
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