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MLB talk with Matt Snyder, Nick Athan on the Chiefs & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hour number two, welcome back Miller and Condon.
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Glad you're with us from Des Moines sports station one O 6.3
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KXNO and statewide on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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Wherever you are listening, we are grateful that you are.
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We take you until the just before the top of the hour at
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that time off the bench, Lucas Strange, Sean Roberts and they
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will take you until 5 O clock. Well, still to come this hour we
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will speak with nickathenschiefsblitz.com,
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chiefsplitz.com for Nick right now, our buddy Matt Snyder from
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CBSSports.com, our weekly baseball conversation.
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Good to chat with you, Matt Snyder, how you been?
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I'm good. How are you guys doing?
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Well, appreciate you coming on to do this weekly segment with
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us. So let's I, I guess I, I, I
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think we probably about the third straight week and I keep
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hearing that there's that proverbial switch for the
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Dodgers boys. I'm not so sure that there is.
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I really, I, I know I keep saying there's got to be,
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there's got to be. I mean, that loss on Friday
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night, Yamamoto takes a no hitter through 8 2/3 and one of
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the young Orioles took them deep and then they blew the game.
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I just not so sure, Matt Snyder, that it's the Dodgers year.
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How about that? Totally agree, it just it's easy
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to to mindlessly say if someone says like who has the best
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chance to win the World Series, I feel like our default answer
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is supposed to be the Dodgers and it's.
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I, I I've. Wondered similar to what you
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said on the flipping the switch thing.
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I have wondered like do they just not take the regular season
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seriously enough because they've been to the post season every
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single year as long as any of us can remember.
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I mean, 2012 was left and they weren't in the playoffs, but I
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mean, it's 144 games of a sample here and they've been mediocre a
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lot more often than they've been really good.
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So it looked still 16 games over 500 stole in first place in
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their division by a game. But it doesn't look like they're
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going to get a buy. They're going to have to deal
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with that wild card round. So I just don't know.
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I tend to agree with you that it just they don't seem any better
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than like just a regular, ordinary, run-of-the-mill
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playoff team. And they were supposed to be
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way, way better than this. Taking that a step further, I
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was playing around last night, had a couple of bonus bets in my
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account after of course I missed some bets, so you get a bonus
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bet back. And so I was playing around and
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played a couple of futures and put them in there and put them
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together. I was absolutely shocked to see
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that the Phillies are now the betting favorite to win the
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National League over the Dodgers after obviously the injury at
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the top of that rotation when Wheeler went down.
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I don't want to say they're Cook cuz it's still a very deep team,
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but I'm really surprised by that.
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And maybe that takes what you guys are saying here with the
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Dodgers because I've just been on the mindset when we get to
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October, they're going to be fine.
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Minus Wheeler. What is it about the Phillies in
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your mind? Should they be the favorite in
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the National League? No, the Brewers should be.
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I think part of it is so many people don't want to believe in
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the Brewers. And like I said in in power
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rankings when I ranked the Brewers won again, I said if the
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Dodgers or the Yankees or the Phillies were 5 1/2 games better
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than everybody else and I'm paced, went over 100 games and I
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played at 113 point pace since late May people be falling over
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themselves talking about how great this team was.
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Instead with the Brewers, we're always trying to find reasons to
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say why their teams are better. Don't get it.
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But anyway, on the Phillies, they are still very strong.
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Losing Wheeler, obviously big, big, big deal.
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It does look like Christopher Sanchez is kind of taking over
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now as an ace. Rangers Suarez is very good too.
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Maybe last night was the start of Aaron Nola starting to work
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things out. Then they might have a deep
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enough rotation there because hey, Suzardo would be there for
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they've got to run at the end of the Bull 10.
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The offense now losing Trey Turner is a big deal and it's
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pretty good to be back for the post season because that that
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really knocks the offense down a peg.
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But still got Kyle Schwarber, they still got Bryce Harper.
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They have guys like Nick Castianos who can get hot at the
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drop of a hat. It's I think the playoffs are
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going to be really, really fun. And by no means do I think the
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Brewers are going to destroy it, dismantle everybody the way that
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like the 2022 Astros did or the 2018 Red Sox did.
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But I still feel like people aren't giving the Brewers as
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much credit as they deserve. I couldn't agree with you more
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and the I think the you know what, I think both leagues are
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wide open. How about that?
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I think we're city, right? It's the what, 9th of September?
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And I really could make a case for a whole bunch of teams or
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Trent could give me two other teams and I would have to
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listen. And I think that's good for the
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game at this point, Matt, before I.
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Went on CBS Sports HQ doing video today.
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The host off the air, she she said.
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So who's going to win the World Series?
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And I just sat there for like 30 seconds and she was like, oh,
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did you hear me? I was like, yeah, I was just
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thinking, and I don't even know what to say.
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Like I don't. It would be easy.
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I ended up saying, I guess the Brewers and I just went on this
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whole tirade about how nobody's giving them enough credit, but
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I'm not like sure that they're going to end up in the World
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Series or anything. It it seems like who's going to
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get hot at the right time? Are the Brewers going to hold
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everything together or like Woodruff and Miss Rafsky going
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to fall apart and then they don't have a playoff rotation?
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And then they're both depends not as deep.
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With those injuries and McGill and and Shelby Miller, you could
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see how they could lose an NLDS too.
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So and then you go to the AL side and like anybody who looks
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good, the Blue Jays, then you can come up with the reasons why
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they could fall apart. And I ended up ranking the
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Yankees as the top team in the American.
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And I agree with. You took series with the Astros
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and the Blue Jays last week, but would anybody be surprised if
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the Yankees got swept in the playoffs?
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Absolutely not. So it's just it's really, really
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fun. All the different, you know,
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scenarios to come up with. Like you look at the Tigers have
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an 8 1/2 game lead. They don't look good right now.
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They just don't look good at all.
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So it's no matter where you look.
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And I'm looking at the Cubs right now that lost three in a
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row to the bats and the Brave, they have no shots before that,
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they looked really good for a second.
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And if Kyle Tucker is healthy and, say, Suzuki remembers how
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to hit home runs, all of a sudden now the Cubs are
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formidable. So it's, yeah, you can bounce
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around team to team to team and just come up with reasons why
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they they might get swept or reasons why they could win the
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World Series. Speaking of the Cubs, let's have
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our weekly conversation on the team you root for in the team
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most important here in the state of Iowa.
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Those Chicago Cubs now are looking for a new closer with
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Plancia on the IL Look, he hasn't been the same guy for a
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while and we've been talking about him and the issues that
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have been there. A fastball velocity down a tick,
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but more importantly, people been hitting it at a lot higher
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rate than what we we've seen. Well, now we've got something
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and now we see that he's on the IL with that shoulder strain in
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the interim, who do you like in the back end of that bullpen and
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Palencia hope of him coming back and regaining that role with
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starting to get into a little bit of a day's crunch at this
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point. Yeah, Brad Keller, it's up.
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Has to be Thielbar and Keller both seem pretty reliable.
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Past that, nobody much really is right now.
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It's like we just talked about almost everybody has bulletin
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issues too. I want I think Palencia needed
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to kind of take a beat. So the injuries kind of good
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timing there. So where they don't have to
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publicly demote him sometimes that Rex guys confidence.
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He needed to to be sat down for a little bit anyway.
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So maybe this is, you know, kind of a happy accident.
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And, and if he comes back and he looks like the guy that he was
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before, what, the middle of August or so before, and that
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the main thing, like you said, is, is that he was starting to
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get hit. And he's always going to look
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like he's overthrowing. He's always going to throw a lot
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of balls and make you worried that he's going to walk in a
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run. But the problem now is the
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giving up the home runs and getting hit hard that that is
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something that just can't happen.
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So maybe after he's sat for a couple weeks, he can get it
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back. I'm not confident in that.
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But hey, it's a it's a reliever. So when are you ever really
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confident in relievers anymore? Yeah, one name he didn't say,
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Matt. And I'm not saying he should be
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the closer, but I kind of like Andrew Kittridge a little bit
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since he's come over from Baltimore.
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Keller's the guy. I agree with you wholeheartedly.
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But Kittridge, I think he's had one bad outing, then the next,
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then his next appearance, he threw an Immaculate inning, if
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memory serves. Yeah, he's I should have
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included him with with Theo Bar as like kind of the bridge to
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Keller, or at least what it should be, because he's been
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really good. Theo Bar has been good.
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Pomeranes for the most part has been good, but there's been some
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shakiness there. Porter Hodge actually didn't
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look that bad last outing, and we know that he has talent as
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well. So it's Craig Counsel.
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Just have fun mixing and matching and trying to come up
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with the formula. Yeah, No, let me ask about Kyle
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Tucker real quick because you know, when you give up Cam Smith
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and everything that comes along, you know, with his ceiling, I
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guess. And we certainly seen both.
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He's rookie, for crying out loud, and a young one at that.
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But so I thought that there was going to be pressure on on Cubs
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management to to and ownership, I guess more importantly, to
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resign Kyle Tucker. I don't think they will.
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I don't think that there's, I mean, I'm sure they would like
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to, but they've obviously got their price point and if they
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get past that, I don't think that they'll blink because
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knowing what's down here and knowing Casey, I think I've I've
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said it before the deadline, I think he's the heir apparent and
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I still believe that to this point.
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I don't think Tucker's a Cub next year.
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Obviously it's a better topic for the offseason, but your
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thoughts? The Cubs have been operating as
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an upper middle market team for the past several years, and I
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think that that's exactly where Tom Ricketts wants them to be,
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unfortunately. So instead of acting like a mega
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market team, like the Yankees are met for Dodgers, which the
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Cubs should be operating at that level, but they're just not.
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And I don't think that Ricketts wants to for whatever reason.
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So, yeah, like Dansby Swanson's contract is probably going to be
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one of the bigger ones that they give out during Jet lawyers
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entire tenure. I, I, Tucker's probably going to
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get more than that. I don't think he's going to get
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up to over like 500 million at all.
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I don't think he's going to get bad.
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I probably in the three hundreds, but I don't think the
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Cubs are going to go into the three hundreds.
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So, yeah, I think it's walking time.
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And up until that last week before he got hurt, when he got
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hot again, I, it didn't look like it was a good marriage
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anyway. He'd been struggling like the
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the longest, the longest slump of his career.
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But I I do think that he's a very, very good player who does
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deserve a big contract. I just don't think the Cubs are
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going to be the team that gives it to him.
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So before the season began, Ken talked me into the Texas Rangers
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and I invested. And I think you like the.
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Is it always my? Fault.
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Well, I got to blame you every once in a while.
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Like I know your password. On your app.
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That's true. He didn't twist my arm, that is
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for sure. But you sold a good case.
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I don't know how many times this year we throw in dirt on this
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team hanging around and they've pulled themselves out now five
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games above 5. They win.
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I want full credit by. The way you will get that full
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credit, absolutely. This Rangers team, you know
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Seeger had have an aftermath because it's just the way the
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season's going. But he's going to be back here
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pretty soon. Suddenly the Rangers and what we
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talked about at the top, a wide open American League.
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Are there crazier things that can happen?
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The Texas with all that pitching, gets hot.
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They absolutely could if they get healthy and and make the
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playoffs, which is like Nathan Duvaldi's out for the season,
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but like Tyler Molly on the way back, Marcus Simeon, Adolis
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Garcia, as you mentioned, Corey Seeger, all her.
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If they get all those guys back and they get to the postseason,
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they could be dangerous there. The Grom needs to hold up and
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that's the one of the biggest question marks for me last week
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for CBS Sports HQ, they asked me to pick the most important
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pitcher in baseball for the rest of the season.
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And I said Jacob the Grom because the Rangers need him to
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continue to pitch like an ace as he has been doing.
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But he's now at 155 2/3 inning. He hadn't thrown over 100.
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He didn't thrown 100 since 2019 coming off Tommy John surgery.
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I know it came back late last year.
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So it's not like it was, you know, he missed all of last
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year. So he's had a little bit of
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recovery time. But man, it feels like we're
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pushing the limit with him right now.
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But if he holds up, they've got Merrill Kelly now, like I said,
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Tyler, Molly on the comeback trail.
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They could piece together a nice rotation for the playoffs.
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They have plenty of offensive players who could get really,
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really hot, assuming they all get healthy enough.
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And then Bruce Bocci has like, bullpen superpowers in the
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playoffs. Oh yeah, it they could well be
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very, very dangerous. There's no question about that.
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Oh my gosh, it can be fascinating.
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And I, I'd put Bochy and there's a lot of good managers right
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now, you know, that look as though they're headed to the
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playoffs, but Bochy's on anybody's list.
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I mean, that this guy is an elite manager.
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Who did they finish up with? Texas.
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I know that Seattle finishes up with the Dodgers, yours Texas's
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last 9-3 with Miami, three with your twins, Trent and then three
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in Cleveland. That's pretty good.
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Pretty good season will be over by then.
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Probably would be it's. It's OK, but.
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The Rangers now, they beat the Brewers last night and they just
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took two or three from the Astros.
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They're in the middle of a gauntlet here because they have
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two more against the Brewers. Then they're at meds and at
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Astros. If they emerge, if they emerge
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from that, though, you know, then like you just said,
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Marlins, Twins at home, then at Cleveland, who's not going to
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have anything left to play for it this next week and 1/2 is
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going to tell us a lot. No doubt what we go through.
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Seattle's always been such an intriguing team.
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They hold that final wild card spot at that.
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At this point in the season. The Seattle team, like they're
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pitching, got some young stars. Of course, what they got with
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Cal Raleigh throughout the course of this season is he.
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Got No 5153? Ridiculous. 53, yeah.
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So the Seattle team, I mean, it's wide open again.
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I don't know. What do you think of them and
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their chances come playoff time? They are completely unreliable,
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but they have very, very good upside.
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Like it's they were playing so, so, so terribly, but then they
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outscored the Braves like 28 to 4 in the last two games in that
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Braves series. They beat the Cardinals last
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night. Luis Castillo had been really,
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really awful recently, but had a good outing.
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If they got Logan Gilbert, George Kirby right, which for
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most of the year, and then they've got Woo Woo at the top.
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Then those other 3, you could see them being a really, really
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good playoff rotation. And then they've got the pieces
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on offense because to to Cal Raleigh and Julio Rodriguez and
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Randy Rosarina, they added Josh Taylor and he was far as in
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front of the trade deadline. That's five really, really good
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hitters. That's a great offense.
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It can be at least a ballpark that suppresses offense, but you
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know, they can hit. So it's it's going to be
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interesting to see. I could see them falling on
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their face and missing the playoffs by like 5 games and I
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could see them going all the way to the World Series.
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It's obviously it will probably be somewhere in the middle, but
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they're very, very intriguing, much like the Rangers.
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Giants out of it. I I am inclined to say yes.
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I think they were just too hot for a quick second there where
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they went three out. Man three's workable.
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I, I don't, I don't think they will make it.
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I I think the Mets are much better but man 3's workable.
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It looks as though if there is a team on the other, if there is a
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team on the outside of the playoffs, a wild card team, it
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has to be Texas has to be the right answer, right?
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Absolutely. Yeah, Yeah.
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The Reds look at. The National League side and I
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know the Giants, Red Snow, Diamondbacks, only four and half
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out. Cardinals, only four and a half
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out. Wow, I know it.
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All those teams, you go to the AL, I just the Guardians are hot
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again, but I just you feel like another one of those awful
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stretches is right around the corner.
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The Royals just had too many injuries and on the pitching
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staff so. They'll win 84 games and finish
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a couple of games out. Yeah, it's the 12.
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In all likelihood, it's the 12 teams in playoff position.
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Right now, I think you're right. Breaks through that force field,
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then it's the Rangers. Yeah, I think you're right.
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Want to take you all the way back to the beginning of the
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season. My final thing for you, Torpedo
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bats, they're still around. But you know, as we think back
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upon that, why was it such a big deal?
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And then has there been any studies done to see why there
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was that onslaught? It was the Yankees hit all the
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home runs in that game, the Brewers, Yankees, Brewers.
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I remember who it was when. The Brewers.
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The Brewers started O and four and got their teeth kicked down.
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Yeah, it's a long season, man. I part of it I think was it was
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the Yankees. Everything's always in it.
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And it was the start of the season.
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It wasn't like in the middle of the season, the series where the
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Yankees went crazy offensively. It was the very first series.
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It was the Yankees. It was these bats that look
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weird and people hadn't talked about much and it just took off.
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But I mean, remember, Adler Rushman had tried one like two
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or two or three years ago and there were a lot of other guys
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around baseball who were like Dansby sponsor.
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The Cubs, I think, started using one last year.
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So it's it was just one of those things where it was kind of a
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perfect storm where, you know, baseball just started.
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The Yankees went crazy. And it's easy for a viral moment
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to happen when somebody online, hey, the Yankees are using these
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bats, shouldn't these be illegal?
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And then it takes on takes on a life of its own.
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Yeah, it was the Brewers in Tampa Bay, and Tampa Bay was
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hitting all. Nobody would have cared because
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nobody would have noticed. Yep.
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Matt Snyder, CBSSports.com, CBSSports.com.
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He writes on baseball, he see him on CBS HQ, etcetera.
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He's with us every single week right through the World Series.
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Matt, thanks for doing this as always, brother, Appreciate it.
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Have a good week. All right, take care.
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Yeah. Good to talk to you, Matt
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Snyder, our weekly check in on MLB.
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That's where I will be tonight. You will be.
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What are you going to? Watch.
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There's nothing on not that I need to twist my arm to watch.
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Baseball, a lot of baseball. I'll be watching a Little League
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action down in Norwalk tonight at the Tigers.
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Make the trip South will be facing Urbandale this evening.
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That will be IS. That a tough trip.
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It's. You know it's a road trip.
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Sure. So last night quick story for
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you what flip it on the game and Jack is learning about home
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field advantage. So we've had the back and forth.
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The girls are on the Vikings. The boys are on the Bears and
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when he saw the opening shot before they went to bucket,
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Aikman of the Bears got home field advantage.
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He thinks it's the biggest thing in the world.
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And he went to bed. It was 17, six and he dreamed of
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a big Bears victory. And then first thing in the
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morning, we want to watch the highlights.
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Yeah, to just let him down before he watched the
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highlights. I said it didn't go well, but he
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still wanted to watch him. Yeah, we're making our little
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football fan and I couldn't be more excited.
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Well, I saw the picture of his bear's gear last night.
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Man, he is going to have a rough life.
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He is sorry buddy. He's.
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Going to be a Hawkeye fan, too. Yeah, Kirk Fern still be
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coaching when he's in college, probably.
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I'll take your time out. Come back, We'll talk about the
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Kansas City Chiefs that stinking quarterback Patrick Mahomes
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used. To be quarterback and what he
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used in college. Yeah, he probably will be be my
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That I've been waiting for that one for about 8-9 years now
20:32
brother. Good to talk to you.
20:33
There you go. Nine straight seasons.
20:36
It's all good. It's just a game, right?
20:38
They're looking up at everybody in the AFC West and I couldn't
20:41
be happier except for one thing. Except for one thing.
20:46
You know what drove me nuts the other day?
20:47
And and because I'm anxious to see where it goes.
20:50
Patrick Mahomes, instead of running out of bounds because
20:54
the DB had pulled up, wasn't going to touch him because he
20:56
knows if he does, he's got 15 yards coming against him.
20:59
That flag is going to fly. And Mahomes decides to lay a
21:02
lick on that guy who was who was pulled up and not expecting it.
21:06
What's going to happen the first time that a DB decides in the
21:10
back of his mind remembers what Mahomes did the last time he was
21:13
in that spot? Is the flag going to come?
21:17
I mean, if you're ADB, how do you play against 15 in that
21:20
respect? Yeah, you know what I you know,
21:23
first of all, kudos to the password for knowing how to lay
21:26
the pads down. OK.
21:27
Number two, I was surprised by the uproar over it.
21:31
But you're right, you know, the the what's to prevent a
21:34
quarterback going after the quarterback?
21:36
I mean, the rules are to protect the quarterback at all costs.
21:39
Now, if the quarterback wants to lay the hit there, the league
21:42
loves it. I mean, that's entertainment,
21:43
that's theater. But at some point, you know, the
21:47
reverse is going to happen and people are going to say, well,
21:49
why? And I hope they just don't look
21:51
at it just as Catherine Holmes is the only quarterback that
21:53
does that. There's there's a few others
21:55
that have done it. So it's like, you know, I think
21:58
everybody's just nitpicking on the Chiefs because they lost.
22:00
That's all I think it is. So when you look at this game,
22:04
Chargers have battled them before.
22:06
We've seen good matchups, we've seen upsets in this game before,
22:08
so you don't want to overreact to a divisional game.
22:11
What was the most concerning thing, though?
22:13
You're a pretty optimistic guy in general, Nick, but was there
22:16
something that's kind of been sticking to your mind here the
22:18
last four days? You know, I think the thing that
22:22
that makes me the most angry about the game is the Chiefs
22:25
decided to travel on on Wednesday instead of Tuesday
22:28
like the Chargers did. I think they needed the extra
22:31
day's rest. I think they were jet lagged.
22:32
I think they were flat. Obviously losing, you know,
22:35
Xavier Worthy 3 plays in when he makes up about 45% of your
22:40
offensive, you know, situation, and that's using him as a
22:43
receiver, a decoy, a runner. I mean, all sorts of things run
22:46
through Xavier Worthy. So, you know, he just didn't
22:49
adjust very well. They did play better in the
22:51
second-half offensively, you know, missing, I mean,
22:54
opportunities in the, you know, to score touchdowns, how to
22:57
settle for field goals. But I thought to me, the biggest
22:59
thing that I was upset about was they just didn't have any
23:03
passion, especially in that first half.
23:05
And that shocked me. After everything you, the three
23:09
of us have talked about since, that's your pro loss.
23:11
They're going to come out with health fury in their in their
23:14
hearts and minds and bodies. They laid an egg.
23:18
Yeah, they did. Conversely, the Chargers,
23:21
Quentin Johnson looked like he was headed toward being a bust.
23:24
He had a really good opening night lad.
23:26
Mcconkey. I mean, he's going to.
23:28
I think he's going to be a star in the league.
23:29
Keenan Allen. Still Keenan Allen.
23:31
But I want to ask you about Justin Herbert, who really got
23:33
my attention with the three touchdown passes.
23:36
I thought he played very well. Are the Chargers now the team to
23:41
fear most in the West in your mind?
23:45
Well, I'm going to, you know, I've been, I've been on Justin
23:47
Herbert just as much as you have.
23:49
And I thought that was the best game he played in the NFL from
23:53
the from the first quarter to the fourth quarter, he was on.
23:56
He had a few low periods. He had a couple of stacks.
23:59
You know, he didn't have a turnover.
24:01
He didn't make any mistakes. I thought he was terrific.
24:04
And I think the charges overall are, are a good team and a
24:07
better team. But you know, I, you know, I'm
24:11
going to be honest with this, the Denver Broncos are, I think
24:15
the best team in the division right now.
24:16
Bonex was awful. Bonex was awful man.
24:19
OK, let me finish. Let me finish.
24:21
Defensively, they're they're the best.
24:23
There's nobody better. Benita.
24:25
I would have given my, you know, my my entire life salary to have
24:30
him on a Chief's roster. I think Shantay has been true,
24:33
but the problem is Bo Nick. So if Bo Nick plays like he did
24:38
against the good team, that defense isn't going to be able
24:41
to save him. But I kind of expected, I
24:45
expected him to struggle a little bit early just because he
24:48
had a great rookie year. You know, expectations are high.
24:52
I mean, a lot of people are picking the Broncos going so,
24:56
and again, I think it's 1/2. I think it's Chiefs, Broncos,
25:00
Chargers, Raiders still, you know, but there's not going to
25:05
be a team that's going to go 5 and one in the AFC West or six.
25:07
No, it's not going to happen. So four and two with a
25:11
tiebreaker is probably going to win it in the division this year
25:14
because I think these games are all going to be close.
25:17
But you know, Bonex, hey, hopefully he steps up.
25:22
I want the division to be as competitive as possible.
25:24
But Justin Herbert really surprised me.
25:26
The fact that he could play that well for four quarters and then
25:29
you say, well, where the heck has this been in the post
25:31
season? He won a big game.
25:33
He's now two and two and nine against the Chiefs and that's a
25:37
start. So kudos to him and he deserves
25:39
the props. He was the best player on that
25:41
field. Travis Kelsey had a touchdown,
25:44
nearly had another if he would have taken another step and kept
25:46
going with Kelsey retooling the body a little bit, looks a
25:52
little different in his 13th season, trying to try to keep
25:55
that tread off the tires right as he makes his way through
25:57
potentially his final year. What'd you see from him and your
26:00
thoughts of what he's going to be throughout the course of this
26:02
year? You know, I thought I was
26:06
impressed with Travis, that touchdown path, even though it
26:09
was wide open, he still had to turn The Jets on a little bit,
26:11
beat the corner, and I didn't know if he was going to get
26:13
there. And then he displayed that.
26:16
I love the fact that he got into Juan Taylor's grill and tapped
26:19
him on the help instead of wake up.
26:21
You know, that to me was very impressive because John Taylor
26:25
just isn't isn't the guy and he isn't getting it and just it's
26:28
not a good he's not a good player for the Chiefs.
26:30
But Travis Kelsey, I thought he did well.
26:32
He probably obviously felt bad for running into Xavier Worthy,
26:35
though. I don't I can't say that was his
26:36
fault, but he looks good to me. He's looked good in the
26:40
offseason. He's looked good in training
26:42
camp. He looked good in the one three
26:43
season game where he got some reps and I thought he played
26:47
really well. And so they're going to count on
26:49
him and they're going to be it's going to be Patrick and Travis.
26:52
And again, you're right, he should have he should have kept
26:54
going and he would have had two touchdowns.
26:56
And maybe it's a different outcome in the football game,
26:58
but I was impressed with, you know, with Travis being that age
27:04
to still be that productive. Speaking of of of Kelsey, there
27:07
was there was a play in the game and it wasn't his fault.
27:10
I mean, Tart, I think the guy's name tier Tart or something like
27:13
that. Yeah.
27:14
How was he not kicked out? What what?
27:16
What am I missing here? He threw a punch and hit Kelsey
27:19
square in the face, knocked him over.
27:21
And I think he really did. I don't think it was
27:22
embellished, maybe a little bit, but Tart flat out cold cocked
27:25
him. Why was he not tossed?
27:28
I don't know. You know, the NFL needs to make
27:30
up their mind to be open hand 5th.
27:32
I mean, come on. Is that what they called it?
27:35
Yeah, Oh, they called it because it wasn't a 5th, that it wasn't
27:39
a disqualification. And Troy Vincent, who does not
27:43
like the chief, he makes these ruling immediately from, you
27:47
know, Park Ave. And the relay message was no,
27:53
it's no, it's no ejection. And of course, we didn't have
27:57
the best officiating. That didn't help either.
28:00
That was a poorly officiated game on both sides, I thought.
28:04
But you know, it doesn't make any sense.
28:06
And and the fact that he hasn't been suspended as of today.
28:09
He's got to be fined, He's going to be fined.
28:11
I'll be shocked if he's going to.
28:12
Be fine big time. But I think, you know, if
28:14
they're serious, they spent they had all these reps, all these
28:17
officials come to all the training camps and say, listen,
28:20
the NFL has made it an idiot that they're not going to have
28:23
players fitting, cussing, hitting, pushing, you know, none
28:28
of this stuff. We're going to be prime, you
28:30
know, you know, best behavior if we're going to lead by example
28:34
and they come out in the first instance.
28:36
Well, second, if you look at what Carter did, you know,
28:38
opening night. But in this instance, I mean,
28:41
there's no reason he shouldn't have been injected.
28:43
And it was huge for the Chiefs. He thought he batted down a
28:46
would be two point version. He batted down a screen pass
28:49
that probably would have been a touchdown.
28:51
You know, so that happened after that incident.
28:53
But Andy Reid was Andy Reid was pissed yesterday.
28:56
I don't normally see Andy Reid get that upset, but he was very
29:00
upset with the fact that he wasn't ejected.
29:02
And as he said, you know, I don't have that much money to
29:06
say any more about it because the league fines these coaches
29:08
for having an opinion was also ridiculous.
29:11
So not a good, not a good look by officiating.
29:14
I think in the opening weekend, there were a lot of games on
29:17
Sunday, too. There were some questionable
29:19
calls and penalties. And it's just, I just don't want
29:23
this to be a year of that again. Last year was bad enough.
29:26
Let's turn the page to this week.
29:28
It's Philadelphia. I thought Philly played a very
29:33
vanilla game on Thursday night. Didn't seem like they really had
29:36
to dig deep into the bag of tricks and maybe they needed to.
29:39
But regardless, they got the win and move on.
29:41
Of course, Super Bowl from a year ago going to have that
29:43
narrative. That's going to be out there.
29:46
Tough game here and very quickly staring in the face of oh, and
29:49
two, if you don't get it in your reading company, they've been
29:52
great in these kind of spots. You have to feel good about that
29:54
part of it. But this is a really talented
29:56
Philadelphia team. Well, I think there's a couple
29:59
of things going in the Chief's way.
30:01
One, it's the home owner, B, they don't have to travel 12
30:03
hours to play a football game. But I think Andy Reid, again,
30:07
Andy Reid's been pissed off. He was pissed after the game.
30:10
He was pissed the fact that he had to talk to the media before
30:12
the game. I mean, all these things that
30:14
took place. And I think the players got the
30:17
message. And it's my understanding that
30:19
Patrick Lavon Mahomes, the second was pretty high rate on
30:23
the plane ride home and had a lot of conversation.
30:25
And I think they're going to come out motivated.
30:27
I think they're going to play well.
30:28
It's a must win there. They have to win this game.
30:31
You know, they got the Giants my Sunday Night Football week
30:35
later. Then they get the Ravens at home
30:38
and the Ravens are going to either be really good at that
30:40
point or they're still going to be realized that embarrassing
30:42
loss against the Buffalo Bills. But this is a must win for the
30:46
Chiefs. I expect them to come out with
30:47
energy. I expect them to play well.
30:50
I make them a slight favorite only because they're home.
30:54
And I think you guys want to make a statement that, you know,
30:57
last week's embarrassment loss and to the Chargers was just
31:00
nothing more than that, that the dynasty is still intact.
31:04
Vegas also made them a slight favorite point and a half.
31:07
The Chiefs favored. Oh, did they?
31:08
Yeah, at the at the Eagles. Nick, great stuff.
31:11
So before we let you go, chiefsplitz.com, the regular
31:14
season is here. Are you guys now
31:15
dailycontent@chiefsplitz.com? Yeah, we, we post articles, we
31:20
do our podcast four days a week. I've also opened up a shop if
31:24
you're looking for Chiefs memorabilia.
31:26
Memorabilia. I am.
31:28
I am selling my collection of 50 years.
31:31
How about that? I know I got 1000.
31:34
Well, I haven't posted them all yet, but I got about 1000 pieces
31:36
that I'm selling. I've had them long enough to
31:38
find other people get a chance to have some of the some of the
31:42
history from the Super Bowl 4 to the current guys.
31:44
How about that, that underground vault Speaking of history, and
31:48
we haven't talked to you because we have, Mitch, every every day
31:50
during the month of August. You have.
31:52
So how did the The public can't get down there, can they?
31:57
The public can anybody can get down there.
31:58
I used to own a delivery company back in the 30 years ago, 20
32:01
years ago, and a lot of my clients were in The Cave and
32:05
it's a nasty, nasty little tunnel.
32:08
It goes from, it goes for about a mile and a half, all sorts of
32:11
directions. You can get lost.
32:14
It's weird because it's like it's definitely, it's
32:16
underground. But yeah, I mean, I've been to
32:19
about, I don't know, maybe 20 or 30 businesses in there.
32:23
And it's just it's it's cold and you can't get it.
32:26
You can't get into the buildings themselves, but you can get into
32:30
the tunnel pretty much at any time.
32:32
And it's it's a fascinating place.
32:34
And in a point of history, when Derek Thomas was up for his
32:39
first contract negotiation, Carl Peterson took Lee Steinberg down
32:43
to that chief's cave and into that office and negotiated his
32:48
first contract extension or his first contract, I'm sorry.
32:52
And Stanberg to this day will tell you the story about he
32:55
didn't know what to expect. But they picked him up with
32:58
Derek and they went into this cave and they sat there in that
33:01
room until they negotiated a contract.
33:03
It was one of the biggest takeaways from watching the
33:05
Kingdom. I was just blown away.
33:07
AI didn't know it existed. And the entire history of the
33:10
Kansas City Chiefs organization from when they started in
33:13
Dallas, how they got from Dallas to Kansas City.
33:16
It's fascinating. It really is, Nick.
33:17
Good stuff, brother. Chiefs blitz.com.
33:19
Chiefs blitz.com. Thank you, Nick Athan.
33:22
We'll grab you next week. Thanks bud.
33:24
All right, Sounds good. Thanks for having.
33:25
Me on guys appreciate it yeah, good to talk to you Nick Athan
33:28
on the chiefs O and two can you see it?
33:32
Yeah, I can too. Oh absolutely, I can absolutely
33:35
see it Chargers they play the Raiders.
33:38
We have a double dip next Monday.
33:40
We do a true double head. Yes, they're not on top of each
33:42
other. Yes, 6:00 and 9:00, right?
33:44
Yes. So maybe a little overlap there,
33:47
but that's OK. This the first driver too, maybe
33:49
of that Raiders Chargers game. But Bucks, Texans, I like that
33:53
game beforehand. Where will Buck and Aikman?
33:55
Be great question. At the on the ABC because ABC's
33:59
got the early game tap at Houston.
34:01
So that would be my anticipation.
34:03
With you, I think that's where. Did you watch any manicast?
34:07
No, I did not. Game matter too much.
34:09
Yeah, I'm with you. It was fascinating.
34:12
Maybe next week. Yep, maybe.
34:15
Will the Manicast do both games? Oh yeah, I mean, how can they
34:20
just do one right? It could be a late night for Eli
34:23
out in the East Coast. He'll be all right.
34:25
He will be like those Michigan State fans.
34:27
He's. How about that?
34:28
Can play about their 11:00 PM kick off against the.
34:31
Hustle. Look at it.
34:33
Maybe Michigan State this week, it might be Iowa coming up,
34:35
right? Everybody's going to get it,
34:37
Clone fans. You're going to get it too,
34:39
Arizona. It's coming.
34:42
Now, the USC game has already been announced for the kickoff.
34:44
Has it this year. Yes, that is a 2:00 central time
34:47
kickoff noon Pacific that was announced when these schedules
34:51
came out really way back in May, so 2.
34:53
O'clock 2:00 our time that's. Odd isn't?
34:55
Who's got it, do you know? Don't think that was announced,
34:58
but it was announced a 2:00 kickoff.
35:00
All right, all right, we'll take a time out.
35:02
Trent's plays of the day are coming up next.
35:05
Miller and Condon talking sports with you.
35:07
It's Des Moines sports station one O 6.3 KXO and the Iowa
35:11
Sports Radio Network. Hi, Miller and Condon, welcome
35:14
back. Our final couple of minutes here
35:15
on a Tuesday. Tomorrow, David Kaplan joins us.
35:20
Boy, if the Cubs get beat again tonight on the heels of the
35:23
Bears going down a month. Did you watch his YouTube recap?
35:26
No, you know what it is? It's an infomercial.
35:29
He's got to have, I don't know, a dozen sponsors.
35:32
Good for him that pop up in the middle of that.
35:35
Yeah, I guess good for him. Good to be the cat man in
35:37
Chicago. But he will join us tomorrow at
35:40
just to start, hour number two, Kate Horton, Spencer Strider
35:44
tonight, Cubs, Braves. What are you betting?
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Circus sports sponsors. Trent's daily plays of the week
35:51
of the day rather before. That I have a major announcement
35:54
for you. Oh, after watching football this
35:56
weekend, I'm not going to root any.
35:57
I'm going to become a soccer fan.
35:59
Soccer for you? Yeah, kids soccer.
36:01
Real soccer. Both.
36:02
Both. Yeah.
36:03
West Ham, maybe, it might be my squad.
36:05
Yeah, maybe. I don't know, Tottenham.
36:08
You've just had enough. Yeah, Hawks did it to you.
36:10
The Bears if they drove the final nail.
36:12
Into the sport. It's September 9th.
36:16
Yeah, it's so much fun, isn't it?
36:18
It's over. Not over my betting though.
36:21
My bank. My bank, Mr. Monday night what
36:24
it O There you go, the rest. Of the picks didn't go very
36:26
well. Mr. Monday night was on on.
36:28
Point I got 4 baseball games and a WNBA game.
36:32
Let's start there tonight. Seattle, Golden State.
36:35
What is the What is the regular season over this week?
36:38
It's coming up. Don't know the exact date, but
36:40
it's coming up. We're going to grab the points.
36:41
Give me the Valkyries plus the 6 1/2 in that one.
36:45
To baseball we go. I'm going to start with my lone
36:48
favorite of the evening, that is the Tampa Bay Rays.
36:50
No starter announced. Could be Hauser this night.
36:53
No announced starter yet. I'll meet Lay though the -130
36:55
against the White Sox this evening after the Twins explode
36:59
for 12 runs last night. They're not going to do that two
37:02
times in a row. Angels plus one O 5 In that one,
37:05
it'll be Kyle Hendricks against Zebby Matthews.
37:07
Talk about two guys that do it differently.
37:09
Those are definitely. Hendricks, in his final starts
37:12
of his Major League career dwindling, seems to be right.
37:15
This has to be it. Going to grab the Reds, they
37:17
jump out to a three nothing lead last night home for no it wasn't
37:20
home free. We'll go back to the well again
37:22
with the Reds this evening, plus 165 against Mitch King coming
37:26
off the IL for the second time this season.
37:29
We'll see if he can do it again. Only two starts since he had
37:32
that initial injury so far, and then I'm going to grab the
37:35
Cardinals. We mentioned the inconsistency
37:37
of Seattle. Liberator's been OK.
37:40
Yeah, Kirby's been inconsistent. Consistent and that goes that
37:43
direction. So we'll grab big money plus 183
37:47
on that one. At Circa you shop at some of the
37:50
other shops you might get 1 + 6165.
37:54
Not the case at Circle plus 180. Three.
37:57
All right, so your dogs, just to recap, you're taking the Angels,
38:01
yes, the Cardinals, correct? Reds.
38:06
The Reds and your one favorite is Tampa over the White Sox.
38:10
I mean it looks like 5 and O on paper to me.
38:12
Smells like it to me, Trent. But if you've been watching my
38:14
what? Go ahead and spend your money,
38:16
no. Really.
38:16
Yeah, that confident, yeah, last 30 days we're down 13 units, so.
38:21
Today, Cup begins to turn around.
38:22
That's right. But more importantly, Mr. Monday
38:24
Night is off on the right foot. Want to know Anna got a couple
38:27
of wins on our Friday contest this week.
38:30
You did got off the schneid. Couple of victories.
38:32
What was your weekly record? Two and three.
38:34
Okay, so every Saturday just getting down to those 5 picks,
38:38
right? Get down to those 5 picks more
38:40
difficult. Narrowing it down and you always
38:43
end up going the wrong way. I'm with you.
38:44
All right. That's going to do it for us.
38:46
Appreciate you being with us. We'll be back tomorrow again,
38:48
Cappy, 1:00 tomorrow for sure. That's going to do it for us.
38:53
Coming off the bench will be Sean Roberts and Lucas Strain
38:57
and they will take you right up until 5:00 where Miller and
39:00
Condon, I should say the first quarter gets underway tomorrow
39:02
morning at 6:00 AM. Then Miller and Condon with you
39:05
from noon until 2:00 Monday through Friday, talking sports
39:07
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