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Chuck & Buck 2-26 Hour 2: 12th Man News with Gregg Bell, Spring Training lessons pt 6 and our favorite NFL coach. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Now out of Ernie, gives a shot of the back
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  Speaker 1: of Jacob Malansen.
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  Speaker 2: Now Malanson.
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  Speaker 1: Now Ben Myers comes in that gives a shelter out
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  Speaker 1: of Bernie. Ernie and Melotza going at it Ben Myers
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  Speaker 1: and ritz Kobe and we'll top the gloves right at
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  Speaker 1: center Ice Ben Myers two strong rights on the top
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  Speaker 1: of the head.
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  Speaker 2: Ri's Kobe and what a hell?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my Ben Myers with a thundering blow to the
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  Speaker 1: back of the head of Justin ritz.
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  Speaker 3: Kobe and.
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  Speaker 2: Ritz Kobe and had it coming. Yeah he did. Smarty
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  Speaker 2: s ob em bets you al Kaniski on the call
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  Speaker 2: last night. Yeah, little fisticuffs late, maybe some frustration. I
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  Speaker 2: think we had one guy to lose one of the
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  Speaker 2: fights and one guy won one of the fights. And
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  Speaker 2: then there was just that little smirk on Ben Myers's
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  Speaker 2: face as he skated away, like took that guy to
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  Speaker 2: the woodshed.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I kicked your butt.
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  Speaker 2: But unfortunately, when we're playing the highlight of a fight,
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  Speaker 2: it usually means that nothing else went well. I'll call that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you don't.
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  Speaker 2: see app for it. Yes, crack and lose all week long.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about how much they need a hot start
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  Speaker 2: as the resumption of the season takes place. Can't have
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  Speaker 2: one of these stretches of crappy hockey like they've done
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  Speaker 2: a few times this year. They've also had stretches of
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  Speaker 2: great hockey. Yep, that's why they right now are a
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  Speaker 2: playoff team. But can't have one of those over the
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  Speaker 2: next seven to ten games. Not a great start. Last night,
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: four to one was the final score, a loss to
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  Speaker 2: a good Dallas Stars team. There was some discussion about
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  Speaker 2: how they had more players in the Olympics, so maybe
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  Speaker 2: they'll be a little more fatigued, a little more banged
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  Speaker 2: up than what the kracking are and instead the Stars
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  Speaker 2: out shot the crack in thirty two to nineteen, won
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  Speaker 2: face offs thirty one to twenty three, and those old
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  Speaker 2: power play woes returned for Seattle. They went oh for
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  Speaker 2: four on the power play. We're down four to nothing
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  Speaker 2: at one point, ended up losing four to one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think that was the disappointing thing too, is that
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  Speaker 5: we had high expectations of them going into Dallas, because
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  Speaker 5: you could have taken advantage of a Dallas team that
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  Speaker 5: should have been a little banged up, and then to
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  Speaker 5: just kind of laid an egg like that, you're like.
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  Speaker 2: Some egg lane, Yeah, baking place last night. They'll be
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  Speaker 2: back in action tonight. Chance to get right back on
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  Speaker 2: the winning track, and they are taking on one of
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  Speaker 2: the worst teams in the NHL, but they are playing
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  Speaker 2: them on their eyes. So cracking at Saint Louis again,
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  Speaker 2: another five o'clock start. Ian for Nasseil join us today
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  Speaker 2: to talk some crack and hockey. It's been a while.
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  Speaker 2: We'll chat with him at eight thirty. Mariners spring training.
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  Speaker 2: They played to a tie yesterday eight to eight. There'll
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  Speaker 2: be an action against the Cleveland Guardians today at noon
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  Speaker 2: and Bryce Miller will be pitching today for the MS.
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  Speaker 2: We're just a few days away from players leaving for
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  Speaker 2: the WBC. By the way, College Hoops UW Wisconsin Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: That will be Debtlift Shremp Day. One o'clock start for
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  Speaker 2: the game, and of course all day long honoring the
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  Speaker 2: guy that his former head coach, Oh goshy, can't I
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  Speaker 2: think of his name? Dick Versace told me I invented
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  Speaker 2: the power forward with a guy named Dettliff Shremp. He
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  Speaker 2: was lying, of course, trying to give himself too much credit,
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  Speaker 2: but nonetheless that's one of my Debtlift Shremp stories. Sounders
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  Speaker 2: will be an action against Real Salt Lake Saturday, FO
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  Speaker 2: thirty in Utah and the NFL Combine workouts start today.
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  Speaker 2: Not why Greg Bell is in Indianapolis, our Seahawks insider
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  Speaker 2: now joins.
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  Speaker 3: Us with the Bell Tolls.
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  Speaker 6: It must be seven o'clock and time for twelfth Man
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  Speaker 6: Now with twelf Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck.
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  Speaker 2: And bud Ah. Yes before twelfth Man News should tell
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  Speaker 3: Chill.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get into it. Good morning, Greg, Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Are you still in the heartland?
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  Speaker 2: All right, yeah. Well, if you're looking to do some
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  Speaker 7: Don't go west because you'll be straight into the Wind's
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  Speaker 7: like from Denver to Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing to pluck the wind.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not a great wind in Indianapolis. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm from the Midwest. God love the Midwest, but it
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  Speaker 2: smells like manure in Indianapolis everywhere you go. So when
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  Speaker 2: the wind kicks up, it's not it's not a glade
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  Speaker 2: air freshener. I'll tell you that.
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  Speaker 3: No, there is that. We do notice that every year,
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  Speaker 3: that's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's get into it. What you might
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  Speaker 2: have learned yesterday We talked mostly about John Schneider's comments
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  Speaker 2: in our conversation yesterday on the show Mike McDonald spoke
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  Speaker 2: at the combine Wednesday. What did we learn from the
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  Speaker 2: head coach.
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  Speaker 7: Well, he said that in some ways life hasn't changed
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  Speaker 7: for him because he's got to go right from the
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  Speaker 7: Super Bowl win and great straight into football.
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  Speaker 3: But he said, yeah, this is.
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  Speaker 7: A little surreal still and it hasn't really sunk in
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  Speaker 7: that he won the Super Bowl and he was mobbed
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  Speaker 7: on the plane from in the terminal on Monday. He
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  Speaker 7: took a commercial flight, not a team flight of course,
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  Speaker 7: so took a commercial flight from Seattle to Indianapolis and said,
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  Speaker 7: you got mobbed in SeaTac airport. He got mobbed in
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  Speaker 7: the plane. The flight attendants kept coming by the front
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  Speaker 7: of the plane where he was sitting to say hi,
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  Speaker 7: congraduate him and thank him.
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  Speaker 3: So that's different.
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  Speaker 7: So it's not the same as the last time we'd
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  Speaker 7: spoken to him at the parade. But for the football
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  Speaker 7: of it, he the most probably newsworthy thing, he said.
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  Speaker 7: Zach Sharviny had his knee surgery last weekend, and when
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  Speaker 7: you tear a ACL, it takes weeks for the swelling
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  Speaker 7: to go down to the point that you could even
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  Speaker 7: have surgery. And that process took almost five weeks Sarvony
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  Speaker 7: got injured in the Division round playoff, came against the
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  Speaker 7: forty nine ers, and then surgery last weekend, and we
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  Speaker 7: asked McDonald, do we have the Seahawks have a timetable
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  Speaker 7: and when Serviny might be able to come back. That's
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  Speaker 7: usually eight to twelve months recovery time, which would put
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  Speaker 7: him into September, October November, after the next season starts,
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  Speaker 7: and McDonald said, it's more optimistic than it was initially.
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  Speaker 7: I'm quoting there directly, So that's exciting on being able
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  Speaker 7: to come back at an earlier time. So that how
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  Speaker 7: does that affect the Seahawks for the now? Well, we've
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  Speaker 7: talked about Kenneth Walker situation and whether the Seahawks will
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  Speaker 7: have a lead running back if they don't resign the
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  Speaker 7: Super Bowl MVP because of Sharbonny's injury. It sounds like
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  Speaker 7: they can't count on Sharvinny to be back at the
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  Speaker 7: start of the season. So you still have a big
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  Speaker 7: issue if you let Walker walk out the door and
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  Speaker 7: even an optimistic recovery time. And John Schnyder said the
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  Speaker 7: day before, I wouldn't roll anything out with sharbon Ay
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  Speaker 7: and his work atic It's not like he's going to
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  Speaker 7: be ready to go to start a training camp and ramp.
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  Speaker 3: Up and cuss that knee.
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  Speaker 7: So it does complicate what they may have been willing
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  Speaker 7: originally to offer Walker versus what they may now be
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  Speaker 7: willing to pay up to, because if they don't resign Walker,
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  Speaker 7: it looks like Sharvonne won't be back. Maybe the most
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  Speaker 7: optimistic till the start of next season.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Greg Bell is with US our Seahawks insider right
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  Speaker 2: here on Chucking Buck in the Morning live from Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I even heard to your first point, John Harbaugh being
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  Speaker 2: asked about Mike McDonald, and his reaction was, Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: why I'm in New York. We're gonna try to build
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  Speaker 2: what he's built in Seattle. I mean, how might that
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  Speaker 2: feel to a Mike McDonald. Here's a guy that was
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  Speaker 2: like a mentor, guy that he still puts on a
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  Speaker 2: pedestal told us on our show that John Harbaugh is
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  Speaker 2: the Ravens and he couldn't believe that he was not
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  Speaker 2: going to be the head coach of the Ravens. And
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  Speaker 2: yet a few months later, here he is John Harbaugh saying, man,
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  Speaker 2: we got to build things the way that that Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald guy I used to know, builds things. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's got to lift a guy a few feet, don't
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  Speaker 2: you think.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been very gracious.
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  Speaker 7: Harby is because McDonald's system, the Seahawks program, is the
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  Speaker 7: Ravens Harbaugh program, down to the way they travel, to
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  Speaker 7: the way they practiced, especially the way they play the defense,
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  Speaker 7: and how multiple they are, how demon worry is Kyle Hamilton,
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  Speaker 7: It's Baltimore Northwest, And so Harbor's really saying is we
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  Speaker 7: need to get players that play defense like the Seahawks players,
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  Speaker 7: because I'm going to put my Ravens system here with
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  Speaker 7: the Giants. Mc donald still was talking about John Harvar
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  Speaker 7: yesterday and how instrumental he is to everything he's become
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  Speaker 7: as a head coach. Of course, he gave him his
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  Speaker 7: first chance as an NFL defensive coordinator, gave me his
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  Speaker 7: first chances as an NFL coach back in twenty fourteen.
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  Speaker 7: He and Zach Orr on the same Ravens staff. Zach
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  Speaker 7: Orr now the inside linebackers coach for the Seahawks that
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  Speaker 7: McDonald just hired.
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  Speaker 3: But there's a reverence, not.
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  Speaker 7: In an admiration of reverence from Mike McDonald for John Harbo,
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  Speaker 7: the new Giants coach.
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  Speaker 2: How in step uh and obviously very much in step
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  Speaker 2: are are Mike and John. But after maybe a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of you know, a few months when they first
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  Speaker 2: got together, of you know, trying to adapt to the
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  Speaker 2: type of guys that Mike McDonald needed for his defense.
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  Speaker 2: And now you've won a Super Bowl, what is the process? Like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, does John now get what Mike McDonald needs
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  Speaker 2: and so he goes out and gets it, or is
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald right there in his ear at all times
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  Speaker 2: saying that guy not that guy, that guy not that guy.
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  Speaker 7: Well, the biggest difference, Chuck, between year one and year
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  Speaker 7: two of Mike McDonald regime was that the John Schnyder
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  Speaker 7: personnel and scouting staff drafting staff.
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  Speaker 3: Knew what McDonald wanted. They didn't know.
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  Speaker 7: In twenty twenty four because McDonald didn't come to the combine,
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  Speaker 7: He wasn't very intricately involved in the draft process and
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  Speaker 7: the evaluating the pro days because he was still hiring
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  Speaker 7: his own coaching staff and figuring out a plan to
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  Speaker 7: practice and train from the offseason into training camp.
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  Speaker 3: He spent his.
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  Speaker 7: Full spring doing that while the other side of the building,
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  Speaker 7: the football side of the building, the drafting and scouting well,
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  Speaker 7: going off what they thought and maybe what McDonald told
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  Speaker 7: him he needed. Then they saw McDonald's defense in action.
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  Speaker 7: Then they saw, oh, he needs a middle linebacker that
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  Speaker 7: is stout enough that when he hits guys that go
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  Speaker 7: straight to the ground. Let's go get Ernest Jones. Oh,
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  Speaker 7: he likes multiplicity in his defensive backs, so it can
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  Speaker 7: play five and six defensive backs and base Let's go
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  Speaker 7: trade up seventeen spots, go scout and eventually draft Nick
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  Speaker 7: eimun worry. That took a year plus and so when
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  Speaker 7: this now, when they come to the combine, it isn't
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  Speaker 7: McDonald needing to sit over the scouts in the personnel
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  Speaker 7: guy's shoulders saying no, this is my type of guy.
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  Speaker 3: Look at this guy.
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  Speaker 7: Now they know and they've seen it work to the
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  Speaker 7: elite level, the best in the sport to win a
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  Speaker 7: Super Bowl. So after fifteen years of Pete Carroll and
• 11:53
  Speaker 7: the way he drafted and wanted players for his program,
• 11:57
  Speaker 7: after two years now they know this will be the
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  Speaker 7: third draft process that they're going through with Mike McDonald.
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  Speaker 7: Their leaps and bounds ahead of when McDonald first took over.
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  Speaker 7: Because they've seen it on the field. They don't even
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  Speaker 7: need McDonald to tell him what he wants. They can
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  Speaker 7: see the results of the guys they brought in the
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  Speaker 7: last year.
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  Speaker 2: And Greg bellis with us. He's in Indianapolis for the
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  Speaker 2: NFL combine, but really to chat with the John Schneiner
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald. If you want to read his most recent
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  Speaker 2: articles from Indianapolis, do so at the Newstribune dot com
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: and you can follow Greg at g bel Seattle. On
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  Speaker 2: X yesterday we got around finally they're talking about boy
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  Speaker 2: A Mafe. What about Josh Job and Rieke Woolan. How
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  Speaker 2: big a priorities are these two guys to be back
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  Speaker 2: in Seahawk uniforms next year.
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  Speaker 7: Well, of course John Schnyder and Mike McDonald are saying,
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  Speaker 7: we want everyone back, but that just doesn't happen in
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  Speaker 7: the NFL. You they are, they regulate against that. But
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  Speaker 7: the salary cap and the market, free agency and multiple
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  Speaker 7: bids going.
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  Speaker 3: And it's it's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 7: It will be much easier for the Seahawks to bring
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  Speaker 7: back Josh Job, a former waiver pickup from the Eagles.
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  Speaker 7: Then it will be PreK Wolan a six four to
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  Speaker 7: two hundred pounds run like the win long Arms, has
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  Speaker 7: already been in the Pro Bowl, has played ninety percent
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  Speaker 7: of his snaps over four seasons. The tape is out
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  Speaker 7: there on Woolen, and his physical skills alone are so
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  Speaker 7: enticing to anybody that if he gets to the market
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  Speaker 7: March ninth, I think he's gone, and I think his
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  Speaker 7: price will be way too high than what the Seahaws
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  Speaker 7: would want to pay, or else they would have offered
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  Speaker 7: him something he'd already liked by now. Not so with Joe.
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  Speaker 7: Kobe Bryant is another guy that will not be too
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  Speaker 7: difficult because the Seahawks know him better than anybody. Homegrown
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  Speaker 7: tried him, Accorner tried him, ac Nickel now found a
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  Speaker 7: home much safety, and McDonald loves him. I think it's
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  Speaker 7: much more likely that Brian and Job come back than
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  Speaker 7: it is wool Wolan will probably sign a contract that
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  Speaker 7: annual value on the free agent market is higher than
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  Speaker 7: both Job and I ain't combined. So you get two
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  Speaker 7: for the price of one by keeping those two and
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  Speaker 7: letting Wooln go. I think that's I know that they
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  Speaker 7: tried to trade or at least they talked about possibly
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  Speaker 7: trading wooland during the season they shopped him around to
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  Speaker 7: see what offers they could get. They didn't get much
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  Speaker 7: of any offers. If Woman does walk, it won't help
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  Speaker 7: them this draft when they may have four. But that's
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  Speaker 7: okay because Mike Jeohn Sanders said this draft's not any
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  Speaker 7: good in so many words, and we knew that, and
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  Speaker 7: that's why we only have four picks in it. But
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  Speaker 7: if Woolen leaves, it's probably a third round, maybe a
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  Speaker 7: fourth round, but probably a third round commentatory pick next
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  Speaker 7: year in twenty twenty seven, depending on how many others
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  Speaker 7: they sign, and all the calculus of coming and going
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  Speaker 7: free agent signings this string. But I just think Woolan's
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  Speaker 7: priced themselves out of the market by going to the market.
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  Speaker 7: And again I keep saying this, but if you're a
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  Speaker 7: mid twenty year old, twenty four to twenty five year
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  Speaker 7: old guy twenty six kind of Twalker Reek Wolan, and
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  Speaker 7: that your team that drafted you is let you get
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  Speaker 7: this far, are to the market, days away from the
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  Speaker 7: market opening your testament. Yeah, And in Woolen's case and
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  Speaker 7: in Walker's case, that their test of.
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  Speaker 3: The market they're gonna get multiple bids to drive up
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  Speaker 3: the price.
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  Speaker 2: So of the six, all right, So and in these
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  Speaker 2: are the six as I see it, Walker, Shaheed, Mafay, Woolen,
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  Speaker 2: Job and Bryant. If I set the under at three
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  Speaker 2: and a half, uh, you know guys coming back? Would
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  Speaker 2: you go over or under three and a half of
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  Speaker 2: those six?
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  Speaker 7: I'd go three of those six. I don't think Mafay's
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  Speaker 7: coming back. I asked McDonald off the podium yesterday about
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  Speaker 7: Mafay and how he fits his defense. He said he
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  Speaker 7: played much better than his statistics say. He said, of
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  Speaker 7: course he would have let more sacks, but that he
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  Speaker 7: was his quickest to pressure guy on the edge. He
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  Speaker 7: used that metric in that term. He sounded like he
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  Speaker 7: would like to keep him. I don't know that they're
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  Speaker 7: going to That's someone that they inherited the Schnyder drafted
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  Speaker 7: before McDonald got here. Again, for the reasons I just
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  Speaker 7: stated earlier, I think Walker and wooll And will leave.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're not likely to resign MafA. So there's
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  Speaker 3: three of your six you just mentioned.
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  Speaker 7: I would be very surprised, Chuck if Rashid Chihei doesn't
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  Speaker 7: resign within the next week or so.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's the easiest for them to do.
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  Speaker 7: He wants to come back, his value to the Special Teams,
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  Speaker 7: his love for the Special Teams program here in Jay Harbaugh,
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  Speaker 7: how he used them, loves Harbaugh, loves him and talks
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  Speaker 7: a lot about that. It was like two or three
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  Speaker 7: days after he got here, Shiheed that he's talking about
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  Speaker 7: retiring here in his mid twenties. That's how much it
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  Speaker 7: was better than New Orleans that he.
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  Speaker 3: Had come from.
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: The Seahawks have Tory Horton coming back, and McDonald mentioned
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: yesterday that yes, Horton is on track to be able
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: to start a training camp, so they have their deep threat,
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: fast wide receiver guy to just be on offense, while
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: they can also have she do that in spots with Horton,
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: but yet have Shaheed be their primary kick returner. So
• 17:05
  Speaker 7: unlike in the open market where teams will try to
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: sign Shaheed as a receiver and a kick returner, the
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: Seahawks have a much more defined role for him and
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: maybe that will drive his pride to down towards more
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: something better that the Seahawks would like to have more
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: team friendly cap number for this year, But I just
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: see it as the Shaheed being not that hard to
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: do compared to say Walker and.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: All right, anything else that we should know, anything else
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: that I wouldn't even know to ask you that has
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: popped up in Indianapolis.
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: Well, Mike McDonald said yesterday that the Seahawks have not
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: been invited to the White House.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Not yet.
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: The expect his expectation is we're gonna get invited, right,
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: That's what he said. That's how it works, was his words.
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: And I've been told by multiple people here with the
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: Seahawks and the league that if the White House does
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: invite the Seahawks, they are going to go. They're it's
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: not gonna be some big national uproar, and all of
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: that would be honored to as the institution and the
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: tradition goes. They just not have not been invited yet,
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: despite reports you may have read it said the Seahawks
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: have decline and offered, and they haven't even offered yet.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: And I've been told if they do offer, they're going
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: to go. Let's see.
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: McDonald said he still hasn't watched the Super Bowl. I
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: wrote a story about that in the News Tribune. He said,
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: he's just good nut. He said, basically, that he hasn't
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: watched the Super Bowl yet. He usually watches the coaches
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: film hours effort.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I think he'll enjoy it, by the way, if he
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: does well, yeah, I think he will get out the
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: comic outcome is great.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I don't want to ruin.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: The ending for him, but I think I.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Think he knows the ending. Yeah. He said he's not
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: going to watch it next week because he's.
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: Going to Hawaii with his wife and the toddler son.
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: And he said, I'm assur ain't watching it there. He
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: said when he does watch the Super Bowl, he wants
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: to watch the TV copy, which he's unusual. He never
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: watches the TV copy, always watches the All twenty two
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: and the coaches tape and from the end zone. But
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: he said he wants to watch the We asked her
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: why you want to watch the TV copy for the
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: first time, especially in the Super Bowl. He said he
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: wants to watch the commercials. I was told they weren't good.
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: I was in the press bugs I wasn't watching, so
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: he may not need the watch. That's that reason either.
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: And then the story I just posted about a half
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: hour ago in the news tribute dot com is that
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: Jody Allen has told both Mike McDonald and John Schnyder
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: it's business as usual amid the team sale, go let's
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: rip it. In her words, his Snyder relaying that to
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: go win a second Super Bowl title. This sale process
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: is going to take all of maybe beyond the off
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: season into the season.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Look, if it's not really going to go.
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: For ten billion with a B dollars, they're only a
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: couple chucks walking around no pun intended, a couple of
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: dudes walking around the North America. That's gonna will one
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: guy that's gonna or gal that's willing to put down
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: ten billion dollars. So it's probably gonna be a consortium
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: of investors and that's gonna take time for the lawyers
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: to vet them all, and for the banks to approve,
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: and for the financing. It's not going to be happened
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: next week, So it could go all the way into
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: the season with it being still Jody Allen as the
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: chair in the sale.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Not done.
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: And so Jody Allen has told him just go do
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: what you do. Spend of the salary cap. Contracts are
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: all enforceable. Anyway, even if the owner walked in tomorrow,
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: nothing will change and so business as usual in that
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: regard in drafting and signing and preaches.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: All right, sounds good, All right, thank you, We appreciate.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: When do you come back.
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: I'm going to actually go steal up to Michigan here
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: for a couple of days, see my mom, okay, and
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: my twin sister, and then head home Saturday too.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: So all right, well we will talk to you soon.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, thank you.
• 20:40
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• 20:43
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• 21:01
  Speaker 2: What I learned at Spring Training Part six. The movie
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• 21:12
  Speaker 2: A r f M. People forget, people forget how big
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  Speaker 2: a deal Taylor Dane was back in the eighties. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of hits. And let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 2: a whole evening of it. Get some dinner while you're there,
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  Speaker 2: bucks down on the Mariners for the upcoming season. Hell,
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  Speaker 2: stay the night, Stay the night with Taylor Dane for all.
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  Speaker 4: I I mean, we're not here to judge, see.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I you can make that happen. Yeah, I mean I
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  Speaker 2: think she's probably gonna be pretty hard to get, but
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna put limitations on you.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, she has said before she'll always love you,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: and what make it? Make her prove it? Yeah, prove
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: her love, not yours.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean that's a big goal for tonight,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: but I think you can do it. Well. It is
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Chuck and Ashley with you here today. Bucky Jacobson is
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: out for the entire week. He'll be back with us Monday. Sunburn,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: no doubt, skin peeling, all that gross stuff, melon of gas, yeah,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: smellon of gas and what have you. But let's talk
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: a little marine of spring training. Last week we did
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: our Mariner spring training coverage. We were really happy with
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: how it worked out, and yet there were some things
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: that spilled over into this week, some things that I
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: learned that have led to a number of conversations. As
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: a matter of fact, here on this Thursday, we are
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: too what I learned at spring training part six here today,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: and what I learned at spring training was that Colet
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Emerson and Cole Young both have a shot at making
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: this team out of spring training, both of them. This
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: isn't a Young or Emerson's situation here. This is a
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: chance where they're giving the flexibility that I mean, right
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: out of Justin Hollander's mouth, Cole Young is a heavy
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: front runner to be our starting second baseman, and Cold
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Emerson is going to be given the opportunity to win
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: a job out of spring training. That's right out of
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Jerry and Justin's mouths. So usually you try to limit
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: the expectations on your young player's twenty year old prospects
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: who are trying to make it their way through the system.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: But that's just not the way that they are operating.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Odds are they're not both going to be on the
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: opening day roster, but there is a chance that they
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: will be. And yesterday Buster only through his investigative reporting
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: from ESPN, he said that you can expect cold Emerson
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: to be up in twenty twenty six, early six, like
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: the first quarter of the season. He thinks Emerson is
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: so advanced and the Mariners are so excited about what
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: he's going to bring to the table that he could
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: be up by May fifteenth. That's just six weeks into
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: the season. That's sort of the expectation that only has
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: after kicking the tires on the cold Emerson story so
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: far at spring training. And if they're going to do that,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: you know they're not activating him, so oh, we need
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: to get his career going. They're trying to win a
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: World Series this year. They are the favorite to win
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the American League. If the Mariners are activating cold Emerson
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: at any time this season or Las Montes, who we
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: pointed out in a conversation yesterday that was part five,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: then that means they believe that that cold Emerson is
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: better than somebody that they're giving every day opportunities to. Okay,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: and that's a veteran which we'll get to in a moment.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: But if they activate cold Emerson by May fifteenth, that
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: is we believe he makes our lineup better. Not because oh,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: let's get his clock started. I mean, let's good time.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I feel bad for the kid. He's gonna start slow,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: so let's get some of those you know, let's get
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: that adjustment period out of the way. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: not that kind of year. If cold Emerson is activated
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: by May fifteenth, it's because the organization is like, this
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: guy's better than one of the nine that we're playing
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: every day right now. He makes us better, and we're
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: gonna put him in an opportunity to help us become
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: a better offense. And the same thing. If las Montes
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: gets activated at some point in the season, there will
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: be no opportunity, not in a championship window where you're
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: just like, let's get him some at bats.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: If las Montes is activated, it means we think he's
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: major league ready, and if he's major league ready, we
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: have expectations for him to produce and produce at what
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: he does hitting home runs.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: And driving in runs.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah fifty of them, Okay, yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's aggress
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: but you know what high high goals I suppose. Now,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: so what happens even if it's not opening day? What
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: if it is May fifteenth, Well, now we got to
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: figure out who's standing in the way of who gets
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: left out? If both Emerson and Young and that's that's
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: really the ambition. They want them both in this lineup
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: before the season comes to a close. If both Emerson
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: and Young are in the everyday starting lineup, who's that
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: going to cost? I mean, is that a Luke Rayley?
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Is that a dom canzone with options? Is that Rob
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Reschneider who you just signed, or is it Victor Roeblitz
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: is one of those four? I mean, injuries can sometimes
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: and they're part of the game. I don't have to
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: knock on wood. They're part of the game. And sometimes
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: injuries in the spring take care of roster number crunches,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: no question about it. But let's just play along. If
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: there is a chance that both Emerson and Young have
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: been determined by the organization, they make us better by
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: being in the lineup every day. They're going to take
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: it bats from somebody and it's going to be a
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: veteran and I do wonder. I mean, Luke Rayley. We
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: didn't talk a lot about in spring training, but he
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: does look good. He looks fit, He looks better than
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: what he's looked in either of his years with the
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Seattle Mariners. So he obviously tried to get refocused this
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: offseason on having a better year after having a good
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: year in twenty twenty four. He had a terrible year
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, and he's going to try to
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: bounce back this year. But I mean, is it a
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: foregone conclusion he makes it all the way through the season.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: If he gets off to a slow start, is he
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: the guy that gets popped? I mean, it's a left
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: handed bat for a left handed bat, and Emerson's probably
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: going to play the field. Yeah, So that would be
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Young at second, and that would be Emerson at third,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, Brandon Donovan, who be
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Brendan Donovan, Who's gonna be in the lineup every day.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: He suddenly is not your everyday third baseman, but he
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: is your super utility guy. And there's a difference between
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: a utility guy and a super utility guy. Utility guys
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: are Dylan Moore, where they can play any position that
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: you need to give a rest to someone or fill
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: in for a stretch of time for an injured player
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: at a certain position. No, a super utility player is
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: a guy that plays every day. He just might play
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: a different position every day. Might play right field one game,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: my play left field one game. If you got rid
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: of Rayley, and I'm not saying they're thinking about doing that,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: but he'd probably have to be your backup first baseman
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: to Josh Naylor, probably is gonna be Brendan Donovan at
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: that point. So yeah, it does make you think who
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: gets caught. Is it Roablazes who's on a one year deal.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: It might be him. It's hard for me to believe
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: refs Niner is not going to be on this team
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: this year after making that investment this offseason. So I
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: guess is it's either Canzone or Raley. And because Canzone
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: has options if you're going to activate Emerson and then
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you'll have to make the decision
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: if do we want to keep both guys in the organization,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and if we do that, we got to send Canzone down,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: or do we say goodbye to Luke Rayley. I mean
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: that's I do too, but that's the great thing about
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: getting to this point where you've got all of these
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: young players on the come, and you also have what
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: you believe is a World Series roster without those young players.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: And so that's the numbers crunch that we're going to
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: have to experience this year. And I'll add one more
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: wrinkle to this. I mean it's early, and it's early
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: in spring training, which means this point is pretty much laughable.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: But the hottest hitter so far in the spring is
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Brennan Davis, who was a former top Cubs prospect who
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: had some injuries, fell out of favor, suddenly became free
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: and available, and the Mariners signed him. So good lug
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: an athlete saw him up close and personal, good lug
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: an athlete, outfielder who the Cubs thought was going to
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: be special at one point. It's not. And it's still
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: like twenty four years old. Brendon Davis is killing the
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: ball so far this spring. You know, you don't want
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: to lose him, right then somebody else loses some other veteran.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: You gotta find a spot for him. Uh, And so
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: that's another name to keep. I mean, I don't think
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: that's a viable threat. I mean, we are talking about
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: just a few spring training games. I'm just pointing out
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: the fact that if you do find yourself at the
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: end of spring or by May fifteen, thinking, oh gosh,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: this young player is forcing our hand, he's forcing his
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: way into lineup, into reps, into it bats at the
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: major league level to make us better, then it comes
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: at the cost of someone else. And so I don't
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: know how much looking over the shoulder there is right now,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: but there's no secret down in Mariner's spring training. They
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: all recognize the young talent, hitting talent particularly that is
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: on its way to the major leagues. And they also
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: recognize the Mariners are not going to hold those guys
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: back when they're ready. They're ready, they're gonna play, and
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: it's going to cost some veteran who's not carrying his
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: weight his spot on this roster.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: Well, hopefully that's a motivating factor and everyone's carrying their weight.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well that's all you can do. Control what
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: you can do. Play your best, make it impossible for
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: them to take you out of the lineup, make it
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: impossible for you them to take you out of the
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: off the roster. Everybody's going to be doing that. I
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: love the competition. Pete Carroll will get a kick out
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: of it. But that's that's where it is right now,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: and it's a beautiful problem. That is, it's not a problem.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: I was going to say, that's I mean, that's your
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: ultimate dream scenario right there is the middle players can't
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: even come up because your team is just performing so well.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: They're in the middle of their ultimate dream scenario right now.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: They feel like they have finally achieved that balance between
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: present day and the future to really rock this thing
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: for the next ten years. It's an awesome problem to have,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: but it could result in a difficult farewell or two
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: before the end of the season. All right, Coming up next,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald spoke at the NFL combine. He's a big
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: celebrity now, you know, and so we'll hear from the
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: head coach on Chuck and Bock Sports Radio ninety three
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• 32:35
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's still surreal that this all happened. I
• 32:39
  Speaker 8: think I think you're a little insulated during the process,
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: so he'll kind of unravel. I'm assuming over time where
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: you can go back and really cherish the memories and
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: obviously those are the things you're thinking about. But life
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: happens fast, and it's not a lot of it's not
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: as much time as you want to celebrate.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Calendar rolls on.
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: So that's what our focus is right now.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Iron sharpens iron, that's right. Yeah. You gotta you gotta
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: compare yourself to the singer Mike McDonald at all times,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald, Otherwise you won't be as great as you
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: could be.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: We're just here to keep you grounded.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: You're good, you're good. With our help, you could be
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: the best, the best. Uh huh. Chuck Ashley with you
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: here this morning. NFL combined workouts start today. Two days ago,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: John Schneider spoke to the Seattle media horde, which made
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: its way to Indianapolis, and man, they're a vicious horde
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: by the indie people.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Were terrified, peppering with questions.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: And then yesterday Mike McDonald spoke actually a rather lengthy conversation,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: and part of it was how much he's being received differently,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: including his old mentor. One of his old mentors, John Harbaugh,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: pretty much saying I need to start being more like him. Yeah,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: because he's got it going. We're gonna try it out
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: quick He's actually said in his Prescot conference yesterday that
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: we need to build our program here with the New
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: York Giants the way that he's built it in Seattle.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Gotta feel pretty good. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Again, though you are not Michael McDonald, So don't let
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: that go to your head too much.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you got You've got a lot of work
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: to do.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: He is at the NFL Combine, and I realized that
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: most of it is now about, you know, talking to
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: your own guys and conducting business and being in the
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: same room with other executives and coaches and uh and
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: agents and and trying to you know, do business there
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: at the Indianapolis Combine. But while you're there, you might
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: as well take a look at the draft picks, the
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: draft prospects. Yeah, because you're doing pretty well at identifying
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: draft picks in the Michael McDonald John Schneider era. Last year.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: They killed it together last three years. John Schneider's been
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: on a absolute heater and thank MacDonald talked about trying
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: to match this year last year's group and how they
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: came through for him with flying colors.
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  Speaker 8: Well, it's incredibly important for multiple reasons. Well, I mean,
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: just look at the productivity we had of those some
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: of those top two guys. Solidifying our offensive line with
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: Gray and really the leadership position that he's taken within
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: our team was really integral towards our success on offense.
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: And everyone talks about Nick, but that's kind of self
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: evident and how that came to life, But the whole
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: rookie class as a whole, I think the way they
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: handled their business in terms of being ready to go,
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: understanding their stuff, put it in the extra time, showing
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: that the Vets that they are invested in our team
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: and it matters to them, and they have respect for
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: the guys that kind of laid the groundwork for him
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: before them. Let that connection happen quicker, and to the
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: Vets credit, they're creating an environment where they let the
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: guys kind of come in and be themselves and welcome
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: them and then show them the ropes. And if you
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: don't have that, it's hard to build a team that
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: we build. So that's something we're gonna have to do
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: moving forward. And obviously we had a lot more picks
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: last year going into the draft than we do this year.
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: That will probably change, but those guys are going to
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: be you know, foundational pieces for our team moving forward.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: It still is the life blood. And I get the
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: football fan out there that says that we do too
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: much on the draft. You're right, that's what Draft miss
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: is all about. It's tongue in cheek, over the top,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: acting like it's the biggest deal in the world. Let
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: me let you in on a little bit of an
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: inside joke.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Around really well kept secret.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: That's me like talking about how big it has become.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: And I do love it, there's no getting around it.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: But talking about how it's bigger than Christmas is sort
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: of the tongue in cheek joke about the entire thing,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: while still providing the information that draft aholics want this
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: time of the year. So there you go. There's the
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: spirit of Draft miss in a nutshell. But it really
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: is the life blood. And I realize that some people
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: roll their eyes and call it a crap shoot your minds.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: And I realize that people say the same thing about
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: major league baseball prospects. I don't value major league prospects.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: They don't they don't haven't proven anything. All players are
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: at one time major league baseball prospects. They are the lifeblood,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: even of the Dodgers of their organization, and so it's
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: super important to make sure that you do well. You
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: don't have to kill it every year. It's almost impossible.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, this run that John's on right now, three
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: years in a row, just pretty much nailing every pick,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's unheard of. But you better do well.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: You better find two or three or four guys that
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: contribute two of them mightily every single year if you're
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: going to create a dynasty type train that's rolling. And
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: that's kind of the position that they are in right now,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: and largely because of how well that they have drafted,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: and even last year's draft, you think about you didn't
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: get what out of Elijah Arroyo what you thought you
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: were going to get out of Elijah Arroyo, And hopefully
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: you'll see some growth and better health in his second year,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: because receivers and tight ends tend to take big leaps
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: their second year. Look at partner Jaln Milroe. You got
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: nothing out of He was supposed to be this package guy,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: and then he kind of threw up all over himself
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: on two or three plays and we didn't see him again.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I'm just wondering if Jalen Milroe is still around? Is
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: he still with us? That's how much he's disappeared from
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: the landscape. And yet I'm sure they still have a
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: plan for him. Riley Mills they drafted injured and he
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: had a big sack in the Super Bowl. For goodness sake,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Secretly they love him, Yeah, they love him. They think
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: he's going to be a big impact player. And Tory Horton,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: who was making an impact, got hurt and we didn't
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: see him again. So, I mean, what a great draft
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: that was a year ago. But it all starts with
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Nick em and Warr and Gray Zabel. Zabel unfortunately has
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: to live in the shadow of how good Em and
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Warri was. Zabel was an a plus excellent you know,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: draft pick, contributed right away and in super fashion for
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: this team, super Bowl fashion for this team. Uh but
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Emon Warr sitting there at thirty five. The only thing,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: the only negative about Emon Worri that I can come
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: up with is that, how dare you risk waiting so
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: long to draft him? How dare you you? You almost
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: caught think about how different the Patriots story was going
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: to be if right before they were finally ready to
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: take Tom Brady in the seventh round or whatever it was.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: The Steelers traded up and for him and got him.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that changes the entire pack absolutely. If anything,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: you why did you even risk not getting Nick Emon
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Worri John, Mike, I want to have a word with you. Yeah,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: step into my office, U. But yeah, I can't wait
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: to see what they do this year. And if it's
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: dancing around with draft picks to move down and pick
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: up more, good because the more you pick up, the
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: more chances you have of getting some contributors to this
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: team and make sure you got the hot hand, ride
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: the hot hand, play the hot hand. Can't wait to
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: see what they end up doing at the twenty twenty
• 40:07
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• 40:10
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• 40:14
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