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How to Teach Kids About Nature Through Children's Books (Earth Day Special) · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

3:28
Hello,
3:28
this
3:29
is
3:29
Karen
3:29
B.
3:29
Shea.
3:30
I
3:30
am
3:31
the
3:31
author
3:32
of
3:32
two
3:32
beautiful
3:33
children's
3:33
books.
3:34
One
3:34
called
3:34
Clark
3:34
the
3:35
Mountain
3:35
Beaver
3:35
and
3:35
His
3:36
Big
3:36
Adventure,
3:37
and
3:37
my
3:37
newest
3:37
book,
3:38
A
3:38
Buightful
3:39
Discovery.
3:40
Thank
3:41
you,
3:41
Karen,
3:41
for
3:42
appearing
3:42
on
3:43
the
3:43
Adventures
3:43
in
3:43
the
3:43
Heart
3:44
of
3:44
Children's
3:44
Book
3:45
Authors
3:45
podcast.
3:46
I
3:46
want
3:47
to
3:47
let
3:47
the
3:48
audience
3:48
know
3:49
that
3:49
Karen
3:49
and
3:50
I
3:50
are
3:50
both
3:50
outdoor
3:51
enthusiasts
3:52
and
3:53
our
3:53
books
3:54
share
3:54
that
3:55
theme.
3:55
I
3:56
just
3:56
thought
3:56
that
3:56
was
3:56
important.
3:57
Also,
3:58
Karen
3:59
came
3:59
up
3:59
with
3:59
a
4:00
brilliant
4:00
idea,
4:01
and
4:02
it
4:02
was,
4:03
if
4:03
you
4:03
didn't
4:04
know
4:04
it,
4:04
today
4:05
is
4:05
Earth
4:05
Day.
4:06
We're
4:06
recording
4:07
on
4:07
Earth
4:08
Day.
4:08
My
4:09
intention
4:09
is
4:10
to
4:10
launch
4:11
this
4:11
podcast
4:12
on
4:12
Earth
4:13
Day.
4:13
That'll
4:13
be
4:14
a
4:14
challenge,
4:14
but
4:14
I
4:15
definitely
4:15
up
4:15
for
4:16
the
4:16
challenge.
4:17
You
4:17
can
4:17
get
4:18
out
4:18
and
4:18
enjoy
4:18
nature
4:19
today.
4:19
I'll
4:20
do
4:20
both.
4:21
As
4:22
Karen's
4:22
mentioned,
4:23
she's
4:23
written
4:23
two
4:23
delightful
4:24
children's
4:25
books,
4:25
A
4:26
Bug
4:26
Lightful
4:27
Discovery
4:27
and
4:28
Clark
4:28
the
4:28
Mountain
4:29
Beaver
4:29
and
4:29
His
4:29
Big
4:30
Adventure.
4:31
Today,
4:31
we're
4:31
going
4:31
to
4:32
primarily
4:32
focus
4:33
on
4:34
A
4:34
Bug
4:34
Delightful
4:35
Discovery,
4:36
but
4:36
we
4:36
will
4:36
reference
4:37
Clark
4:38
the
4:38
Mountain
4:38
Beaver
4:39
because
4:40
in
4:41
our
4:41
next
4:41
book,
4:42
we
4:43
actually
4:43
it's
4:43
called
4:44
Hijinks
4:44
from
4:44
the
4:45
Big
4:45
Head
4:45
Folk
4:45
Music
4:46
Festival.
4:47
One
4:47
of
4:47
our
4:47
main
4:47
characters,
4:48
and
4:48
we're
4:49
introducing
4:49
this
4:50
character
4:50
in
4:50
our
4:51
next
4:51
book,
4:51
is
4:52
Bailey
4:52
the
4:53
Beaver.
4:54
Now,
4:54
Karen,
4:54
before
4:55
we
4:55
get
4:55
into
4:55
the
4:56
details
4:56
of
4:56
your
4:56
books
4:57
and
4:58
your
4:58
book
4:58
authorship,
4:59
can
4:59
you
5:00
tell
5:00
us
5:00
what
5:01
being
5:01
a
5:02
children's
5:03
book
5:03
author
5:03
means
5:04
to
5:04
you?
5:05
I
5:05
didn't
5:05
ever
5:06
really
5:06
plan
5:06
on
5:07
becoming
5:07
a
5:07
children's
5:08
book
5:08
author,
5:09
but
5:09
I
5:09
do
5:10
have
5:10
a
5:10
huge
5:10
passion
5:11
for
5:11
nature.
5:12
And
5:13
when
5:13
I
5:14
started
5:14
learning
5:14
about
5:15
nature
5:15
deficit
5:16
disorder
5:16
in
5:17
children,
5:17
this
5:17
was
5:18
probably
5:18
back
5:18
in
5:18
the
5:19
90s.
5:19
It
5:20
freaked
5:20
me
5:20
out
5:20
because
5:20
I
5:21
grew
5:21
up
5:21
at
5:21
a
5:21
time
5:22
when
5:22
I
5:22
spent
5:22
my
5:23
whole
5:23
childhood
5:24
outdoors.
5:25
So
5:25
the
5:25
thought
5:26
that
5:26
now
5:26
we
5:26
have
5:27
technology
5:27
and
5:27
children
5:28
can
5:28
watch
5:28
nature
5:29
on
5:29
their
5:30
screens
5:30
and
5:31
don't
5:31
necessarily
5:31
get
5:32
out,
5:32
I
5:33
thought,
5:33
oh,
5:33
my
5:33
gosh,
5:34
we
5:34
need
5:34
our
5:34
kids
5:34
to
5:35
help
5:35
save
5:35
the
5:35
Earth
5:36
and
5:36
to
5:36
appreciate
5:37
all
5:37
the
5:37
beauty
5:38
around
5:38
us.
5:38
So
5:38
that's
5:39
what
5:39
inspired
5:39
me
5:39
to
5:40
start
5:40
looking
5:41
into
5:41
reaching
5:42
out
5:42
to
5:42
children.
5:43
So
5:43
children's
5:44
books
5:44
seemed
5:45
like
5:45
the
5:45
perfect
5:45
venue
5:46
for
5:46
that.
5:47
I
5:47
came
5:48
across
5:48
that
5:48
mountain
5:48
beaver
5:49
and
5:49
decided
5:50
to
5:50
write
5:50
my
5:50
first
5:50
children's
5:51
book.
5:51
And
5:52
from
5:52
then
5:52
on,
5:52
it's
5:53
just
5:53
the
5:54
passion
5:54
of
5:54
wanting
5:55
to
5:55
expose
5:56
children
5:56
to
5:56
the
5:57
beauty
5:57
and
5:57
wonder
5:57
around
5:58
them,
5:58
because
5:59
you
5:59
don't
5:59
have
5:59
to
5:59
go
5:59
to
6:00
a
6:00
big
6:00
national
6:00
park,
6:01
you
6:01
don't
6:01
have
6:02
to
6:02
go
6:02
to
6:02
a
6:02
big
6:02
ocean.
6:03
We've
6:03
got
6:03
beautiful
6:04
trees
6:04
and
6:05
birds
6:05
everywhere,
6:06
and
6:07
right
6:07
outside
6:07
our
6:07
door
6:08
is
6:08
nature
6:09
just
6:09
waiting
6:09
for
6:09
us
6:10
to
6:10
appreciate
6:10
it.
6:11
So
6:11
that's
6:11
where
6:11
I
6:11
go
6:12
with
6:12
my
6:12
books.
6:12
I
6:13
want
6:13
to
6:13
inspire
6:13
and
6:14
teach
6:14
kids
6:14
about
6:14
the
6:15
beauty
6:15
and
6:15
wonder
6:15
around
6:15
them.
6:16
Fantastic.
6:17
It
6:17
was
6:18
interesting
6:19
because
6:19
my
6:20
granddaughter,
6:21
my
6:21
oldest
6:21
granddaughter,
6:22
inspired
6:23
this
6:24
whole
6:24
idea
6:25
of
6:25
adventures.
6:25
And
6:26
it
6:26
was
6:26
all
6:26
based
6:26
on
6:27
our
6:28
adventures
6:28
in
6:28
the
6:29
Rocky
6:29
Mountains.
6:30
Hats
6:30
off
6:31
to
6:31
you.
6:31
Children
6:32
have
6:33
that
6:33
creative
6:34
inspiration.
6:35
And
6:35
if
6:36
you
6:36
could
6:36
just
6:36
provide,
6:37
like
6:37
you
6:37
just
6:37
described,
6:38
a
6:39
little
6:39
bit
6:39
of
6:39
adventure
6:40
and
6:40
take
6:40
them
6:40
outside,
6:41
you
6:42
can
6:42
develop
6:42
all
6:43
kinds
6:43
of
6:43
things
6:44
in
6:44
your
6:45
own
6:45
backyard.
6:46
Exactly.
6:47
Yes.
6:47
Yes.
6:48
Tell
6:48
us
6:49
a
6:49
little
6:49
bit
6:49
about
6:50
the
6:50
inspiration
6:51
behind
6:52
your
6:52
first
6:52
book,
6:53
Clark
6:53
the
6:53
Mountain
6:54
Beaver.
6:55
It
6:55
goes
6:55
back
6:55
to
6:56
that
6:56
feeling
6:56
like
6:57
a
6:57
child
6:57
again.
6:57
I
6:58
originally
6:58
grew
6:58
up
6:58
out
6:58
that
6:59
same.
6:59
Outside
7:00
the
7:00
Chicago
7:00
area.
7:01
And
7:02
so
7:02
we
7:02
had
7:02
prairies
7:03
and
7:03
fields,
7:04
lands.
7:05
Now
7:05
I
7:05
live
7:06
in
7:06
Seattle,
7:07
near
7:07
Seattle.
7:08
We've
7:08
got
7:08
mountains
7:08
and
7:09
water
7:09
and
7:09
all
7:09
these
7:10
beautiful
7:10
things.
7:11
And
7:11
I've
7:11
been
7:11
out
7:11
here
7:11
for
7:12
about
7:12
30
7:12
years.
7:12
I
7:13
experienced
7:14
a
7:14
lot
7:14
of
7:14
nature.
7:15
So
7:15
as
7:16
we
7:16
get
7:16
older,
7:16
we
7:16
think
7:17
we
7:17
know
7:17
everything.
7:18
More
7:18
so
7:18
than
7:19
as
7:19
a
7:19
kid.
7:19
I
7:20
was
7:20
in
7:20
my
7:20
yard
7:21
one
7:21
evening
7:22
and
7:22
I
7:22
saw
7:22
this
7:23
critter.
7:24
And
7:25
I
7:25
didn't
7:25
know
7:26
what
7:26
it
7:26
was,
7:26
and
7:26
I
7:27
thought
7:27
it.
7:27
It
7:27
looked
7:28
like
7:28
a
7:28
muskrat
7:28
without
7:29
a
7:29
tail.
7:30
And
7:30
so
7:30
I
7:31
was
7:31
just
7:31
dumbfounded,
7:32
didn't
7:32
know
7:32
what
7:32
it
7:32
was.
7:33
It
7:33
just
7:33
was
7:33
this
7:33
beautiful
7:34
brown
7:35
fur,
7:35
like,
7:36
shaped
7:36
like
7:36
a
7:36
football,
7:37
waddling
7:37
around
7:38
near
7:38
this
7:38
creek
7:39
by
7:39
my
7:39
house.
7:40
And
7:40
I
7:40
could
7:40
not
7:40
figure
7:41
it
7:41
out.
7:41
And
7:41
at
7:41
the
7:41
time,
7:42
I
7:42
was
7:42
volunteering
7:42
for
7:43
paws,
7:44
which
7:44
is
7:44
a
7:44
progressive
7:45
animal
7:45
welfare
7:45
society.
7:46
And
7:46
we
7:46
were.
7:46
We
7:47
rehabilitate
7:48
wild
7:48
animals
7:49
on
7:49
one
7:49
side,
7:50
and
7:50
that's
7:50
where
7:50
I
7:50
was
7:51
working.
7:51
Lo
7:52
and
7:52
behold,
7:52
the
7:52
next
7:52
week
7:52
I
7:53
go
7:53
into
7:53
work
7:54
and
7:54
they
7:54
say
7:55
we
7:55
have
7:55
a
7:55
mountain
7:55
beaver
7:56
with
7:56
mane.
7:56
So
7:56
we're
7:57
going
7:57
to
7:57
keep
7:57
it
7:57
a
7:57
little
7:57
isolated.
7:58
And
7:58
I
7:58
was
7:59
like,
7:59
what
7:59
is
7:59
a
8:00
mountain
8:00
beaver?
8:01
So
8:02
my
8:02
instructor
8:03
took
8:03
me
8:03
back
8:03
there,
8:04
opened
8:04
up
8:04
the
8:04
lid
8:05
to
8:05
the
8:05
enclosure,
8:05
and
8:06
oh,
8:06
my
8:06
gosh,
8:07
it
8:07
was
8:08
the
8:08
critter
8:08
in
8:09
my
8:09
yard.
8:09
So
8:10
I
8:10
was
8:10
like
8:10
a
8:10
kid
8:10
again.
8:11
I'm
8:11
like,
8:11
I
8:12
thought
8:12
I
8:12
knew
8:12
every
8:12
animal
8:13
in
8:13
the
8:13
world.
8:14
Right?
8:14
Yeah.
8:15
Old
8:15
thought.
8:16
But
8:16
when
8:17
you're
8:17
in
8:17
your
8:17
50s,
8:18
you
8:18
think
8:18
you've
8:18
seen
8:18
it
8:19
all,
8:19
right.
8:19
So
8:20
Steve
8:20
handed
8:21
me
8:21
this
8:21
huge
8:21
book
8:21
on
8:22
mammals.
8:22
I
8:22
read
8:22
about
8:23
him.
8:23
I
8:23
knew
8:23
nothing
8:24
about
8:24
him.
8:24
And
8:25
he
8:25
just
8:26
seemed
8:26
so
8:27
amazing
8:27
to
8:27
me
8:27
because
8:28
he
8:28
is
8:28
our
8:28
oldest
8:29
living
8:30
primitive
8:31
rodent.
8:32
He
8:32
is
8:32
the
8:32
oldest
8:33
rodent
8:33
on
8:34
the
8:34
earth,
8:34
supposedly
8:35
for
8:35
what
8:36
we.
8:36
I
8:36
was
8:37
just
8:37
mesmerized
8:37
by
8:38
him.
8:38
I
8:38
started
8:38
making
8:39
up
8:39
stories
8:39
about
8:40
Clark
8:40
around
8:41
my
8:41
yard
8:41
because
8:41
we
8:42
have
8:42
all
8:42
kinds
8:42
of
8:43
beautiful
8:43
animals
8:43
that
8:44
come
8:44
and
8:44
go,
8:44
and
8:45
Clark
8:45
is
8:45
nocturnal
8:46
and
8:46
is
8:46
pretty
8:47
shy.
8:47
So
8:48
I
8:48
just
8:48
thought
8:49
this
8:49
would
8:49
make
8:49
a
8:49
good
8:50
book.
8:50
A
8:50
good
8:50
book.
8:51
Because
8:51
when
8:52
you.
8:52
We
8:52
were
8:52
talking
8:53
a
8:53
little
8:53
bit
8:53
earlier
8:54
and
8:54
you
8:54
said.
8:54
When
8:54
you
8:54
mentioned
8:55
a
8:55
Beaver.
8:55
Everybody
8:56
thinks
8:56
of
8:56
the
8:57
traditional
8:58
beaver
8:58
with
8:59
the
8:59
flat
8:59
tail.
8:59
They
9:00
build
9:00
the
9:00
lodge.
9:01
And
9:01
I
9:01
was
9:02
asking
9:02
people
9:02
around
9:02
here
9:03
that
9:03
have
9:03
grown
9:03
up
9:03
in
9:03
Washington
9:04
because
9:04
Clark
9:05
is
9:05
only.
9:05
Mountain
9:06
beavers
9:06
are
9:06
only
9:06
found
9:06
from
9:06
British
9:07
Columbia
9:07
down
9:08
to
9:08
Northern
9:08
California.
9:09
So
9:09
they
9:09
have
9:09
a
9:10
very
9:10
limited
9:10
territory.
9:10
But
9:11
everybody
9:11
was
9:11
doing
9:11
the
9:12
same
9:12
thing
9:12
you
9:12
were
9:12
getting.
9:13
Yes.
9:13
In
9:14
the
9:14
water
9:14
and
9:14
they
9:14
have
9:15
nails.
9:15
And
9:15
I'm
9:16
like,
9:16
oh,
9:17
he's
9:17
so
9:17
misunderstood.
9:18
And
9:18
nobody
9:19
knows
9:20
about
9:20
him.
9:20
So
9:21
I
9:21
thought
9:21
he
9:21
needs.
9:22
We
9:22
need
9:22
to
9:22
educate
9:23
the
9:23
world.
9:23
So
9:23
that's
9:24
where
9:24
that
9:25
whole
9:25
inspiration.
9:25
But
9:26
it
9:26
was
9:26
that
9:26
feeling
9:26
of
9:26
being
9:27
a
9:27
kid
9:27
again,
9:27
like
9:28
I
9:28
just
9:28
learned
9:29
something
9:29
new.
9:30
That
9:31
is
9:31
incredible.
9:31
And
9:32
now
9:32
I
9:32
know
9:32
you
9:33
named
9:33
the
9:34
beaver
9:34
Clark.
9:35
And
9:35
I
9:35
think
9:35
it's
9:36
from
9:36
Lewis
9:37
and
9:37
Clark,
9:37
the
9:37
adventurers
9:38
that
9:39
went
9:39
through
9:40
North
9:40
America.
9:41
Tell
9:41
us
9:41
why
9:42
it
9:42
wasn't
9:42
Lewis
9:43
the
9:43
beaver.
9:44
So,
9:45
because.
9:45
Yeah,
9:45
so
9:46
it
9:46
did
9:46
come
9:46
from
9:46
the
9:46
inspiration
9:47
from
9:47
Lewis
9:47
and
9:48
Clark
9:48
because
9:48
when
9:48
they
9:48
were
9:48
on
9:49
their
9:49
expedition,
9:50
they
9:50
did
9:51
experience
9:51
mountain
9:52
beaver
9:52
when
9:52
they
9:52
were
9:53
in
9:53
Astoria,
9:53
Oregon.
9:54
And
9:54
so
9:55
they
9:55
had
9:55
never
9:55
seen
9:56
it
9:56
either.
9:56
And
9:56
they
9:56
had
9:57
the
9:57
privilege
9:57
of
9:57
naming
9:58
animals
9:58
and
9:58
plants
9:59
and
9:59
different
9:59
species
10:00
on
10:00
this
10:00
expedition.
10:01
And
10:01
he
10:02
gnaws
10:02
at
10:03
trees
10:03
like
10:03
a
10:03
mountain,
10:04
like
10:04
a
10:04
regular
10:05
beaver
10:05
does.
10:06
So
10:06
they
10:06
named
10:06
him
10:07
a
10:07
mountain
10:07
beaver
10:08
just
10:08
because
10:08
of
10:08
that.
10:09
But
10:09
he
10:09
doesn't
10:09
live
10:10
in
10:10
the
10:10
mountain.
10:10
He's
10:11
not
10:11
even
10:11
a
10:11
beaver.
10:12
He's
10:12
actually
10:12
more
10:13
closely
10:13
associated
10:14
with
10:14
squirrel,
10:15
believe
10:15
it
10:15
or
10:15
not.
10:16
But
10:17
when
10:17
I.
10:18
So
10:18
again,
10:19
so
10:19
we
10:19
go
10:19
back
10:19
to.
10:20
He's.
10:20
Nobody
10:20
understands
10:21
him.
10:21
Right.
10:22
He's
10:22
a
10:22
mountain
10:23
beaver.
10:23
Nobody's
10:23
even
10:24
heard
10:24
of
10:24
him.
10:24
He
10:24
played
10:25
second
10:25
fiddle
10:26
to
10:26
the
10:26
more
10:26
famous
10:27
beaver.
10:28
And
10:28
you
10:28
never
10:28
hear
10:29
Clark
10:29
and
10:29
Lewis.
10:30
You
10:30
only
10:30
hear
10:30
Lewis
10:31
and
10:31
Clark.
10:32
So
10:33
I
10:33
felt
10:33
like
10:33
that
10:34
Clark
10:34
kind
10:34
of
10:34
played
10:34
second
10:35
fiddle
10:35
to
10:35
the
10:36
big
10:36
Captain
10:36
Lewis.
10:37
I
10:37
don't
10:38
know,
10:38
Clark
10:38
just
10:38
seemed
10:38
appropriate.
10:39
You
10:39
know
10:40
what?
10:40
It's
10:40
always
10:40
interesting
10:41
because
10:41
I
10:42
know
10:42
when
10:42
I
10:42
talk
10:43
to
10:44
children's
10:44
book
10:44
authors,
10:45
their
10:45
creativity
10:46
is
10:46
amazing.
10:47
And
10:48
your
10:48
thought
10:48
process
10:49
and
10:49
how
10:49
you
10:50
just
10:50
described
10:50
naming
10:51
Clark,
10:52
how
10:52
that
10:52
all
10:53
happens,
10:53
that's
10:54
a
10:54
lot
10:54
of
10:54
fun.
10:55
After
10:55
you
10:55
wrote
10:56
your
10:56
first
10:56
book,
10:57
tell
10:57
us
10:58
what
10:59
led
10:59
to
10:59
your
11:00
second
11:00
book.
11:00
What
11:01
was
11:01
the
11:01
inspiration
11:02
you
11:02
got
11:02
your
11:02
first
11:03
book
11:03
out
11:03
to
11:03
into
11:04
the
11:04
World.
11:05
And
11:06
I'm
11:06
not
11:07
sure
11:07
how
11:08
far
11:08
between
11:08
the
11:09
two
11:09
books
11:10
it
11:10
took
11:10
you
11:10
to
11:11
bring
11:11
your
11:11
second
11:11
book
11:12
to
11:12
life.
11:12
But
11:13
explain
11:13
that
11:13
whole
11:14
process
11:14
and
11:15
your
11:15
learning.
11:16
Oh,
11:16
my
11:16
gosh,
11:16
it's
11:16
been
11:17
almost
11:17
10
11:17
years,
11:18
actually,
11:19
between
11:20
the
11:20
books.
11:20
Okay.
11:21
Clock
11:21
was
11:21
self
11:22
published
11:22
and
11:23
I
11:23
did
11:23
it
11:23
the
11:24
hard
11:24
way.
11:25
You
11:25
knew
11:25
nothing
11:26
about
11:27
writing
11:27
a
11:27
children's
11:28
book.
11:29
Even
11:29
though
11:29
I
11:29
got
11:29
an
11:30
editor
11:30
and
11:30
I
11:30
had
11:31
a
11:31
book
11:31
designer,
11:31
I
11:31
did
11:32
those
11:32
things.
11:32
But
11:33
the
11:33
learning
11:34
curve
11:34
is
11:34
when
11:34
you
11:34
enter
11:35
the
11:35
literary
11:36
world
11:36
there
11:36
is
11:36
a
11:36
lot
11:37
of
11:37
rules,
11:37
a
11:38
lot
11:38
of
11:38
regulations,
11:39
a
11:39
lot
11:39
of
11:39
stuff,
11:40
a
11:40
lot
11:40
of
11:40
moving
11:40
parts.
11:41
So
11:41
I
11:41
took
11:41
a
11:41
breather
11:42
from
11:42
Clark
11:43
and
11:43
I've
11:44
been
11:44
wanting
11:44
to
11:44
write
11:44
other
11:45
books
11:45
of
11:45
course,
11:46
but
11:46
the
11:46
bug
11:47
lightful
11:47
discovery
11:48
came
11:49
out
11:49
of
11:49
probably
11:50
like
11:51
a
11:51
30
11:51
second
11:52
encounter
11:53
because
11:53
I
11:53
was
11:54
with
11:55
some
11:55
neighborhood
11:56
children.
11:57
I
11:57
have
11:57
a
11:58
cabin
11:58
out
11:58
in
11:58
Wyoming
11:59
and
11:59
so
11:59
we
12:00
explore
12:00
nature
12:00
a
12:01
lot
12:01
there
12:01
and
12:01
these
12:02
kids
12:02
were
12:02
visiting
12:03
me
12:03
one
12:03
morning
12:04
and
12:04
it
12:05
all
12:05
came
12:05
out
12:05
of
12:06
a
12:06
reaction
12:06
of
12:06
a
12:07
seven
12:07
year
12:07
old
12:07
girl
12:07
when
12:08
a
12:08
big
12:08
crazy
12:09
alien
12:09
looking
12:09
beetle
12:10
landed
12:10
on
12:10
my
12:11
porch.
12:11
And
12:12
the
12:12
true
12:12
childhood
12:13
reaction
12:14
of
12:14
oh,
12:14
I'm
12:14
going
12:14
to
12:15
stomp
12:15
on
12:15
it.
12:16
Put
12:16
a
12:16
horror
12:17
in
12:17
my
12:17
mind.
12:17
And
12:17
I
12:18
was
12:18
like
12:18
no.
12:19
And
12:19
so
12:19
we
12:19
had
12:19
a
12:20
tiny
12:20
brief
12:20
conversation
12:21
which
12:21
she
12:21
didn't
12:22
like
12:22
because
12:22
I
12:23
told
12:23
her
12:23
she
12:23
can't
12:24
do
12:24
that
12:25
because
12:25
it
12:26
has
12:26
a
12:26
purpose
12:26
and
12:27
deserves
12:27
to
12:27
live
12:27
as
12:27
much
12:27
as
12:28
you
12:28
and
12:28
I
12:28
do.
12:28
And
12:29
she's
12:29
thinking
12:29
at
12:29
7
12:30
year
12:30
olds
12:30
like
12:30
what
12:30
are
12:31
you
12:31
thinking?
12:31
What
12:31
are
12:31
you
12:32
talking
12:32
about,
12:32
lady?
12:33
But
12:33
she
12:34
didn't
12:34
like
12:34
it
12:34
so
12:34
she
12:35
went
12:35
home.
12:35
But
12:36
it
12:36
kept
12:36
all
12:37
day
12:37
long.
12:37
I
12:37
kept
12:38
thinking
12:38
about
12:39
that
12:39
immediate
12:40
response
12:41
which
12:41
wasn't
12:42
wrong,
12:43
wrong,
12:43
but
12:44
not
12:44
wrong
12:44
for
12:44
a
12:45
seven
12:45
year
12:45
old.
12:45
Just
12:46
react.
12:46
That's
12:46
the
12:47
beautiful
12:47
thing
12:47
about
12:47
children.
12:48
They
12:48
just
12:49
are
12:49
in
12:49
the
12:49
moment
12:50
for
12:50
the
12:50
most
12:50
part
12:51
and
12:51
they
12:51
react.
12:51
Absolutely.
12:53
I
12:53
just
12:53
kept
12:53
thinking
12:54
about
12:54
it
12:54
and
12:54
couldn't
12:54
get
12:54
it
12:54
off
12:55
my
12:55
mind.
12:55
And
12:55
I
12:55
thought,
12:55
oh
12:55
my
12:56
gosh,
12:56
if
12:56
I
12:56
can
12:56
teach
12:57
this
12:57
lesson
12:57
to
12:58
Amelia,
12:58
how
12:59
many
12:59
other
12:59
children
12:59
can
13:00
I
13:00
teach
13:00
it
13:00
to?
13:00
Hello,
13:01
Big
13:01
teaching
13:02
moment.
13:02
That
13:03
even
13:03
a
13:04
little
13:04
bug
13:05
has
13:05
a
13:05
purpose
13:06
in
13:06
this
13:06
world
13:06
and
13:06
we
13:07
should
13:07
try
13:08
to
13:08
respect
13:08
it.
13:08
And
13:09
the
13:09
more,
13:09
the
13:09
sooner
13:10
we
13:10
learn
13:10
these
13:11
things,
13:11
the
13:11
more
13:11
it
13:11
gets
13:12
instilled
13:12
in
13:12
us
13:12
and
13:13
the
13:13
more
13:13
we
13:13
grow
13:14
up
13:14
with
13:14
the
13:14
passion
13:15
for.
13:16
And
13:16
I
13:16
have
13:16
to
13:16
give
13:16
you
13:16
a
13:17
big
13:17
compliment
13:17
because
13:18
I
13:18
was
13:19
thinking
13:19
about
13:20
when
13:20
I
13:20
read
13:20
your
13:21
book
13:21
Clark
13:22
the
13:22
Mountain
13:22
Beaver
13:23
and
13:24
I
13:24
thought
13:24
wow,
13:25
like
13:26
this
13:26
is
13:26
a
13:26
lot
13:27
of
13:27
content.
13:28
And
13:28
I
13:29
just.
13:29
No,
13:29
really,
13:30
I
13:30
thought
13:30
wow,
13:30
this
13:31
is
13:31
incredible
13:32
to
13:32
tackle
13:33
that
13:34
much
13:34
content
13:35
in
13:35
your
13:35
first
13:36
children's
13:36
book.
13:37
No
13:37
wonder
13:37
you
13:38
needed
13:38
a
13:38
rest
13:39
for
13:39
10
13:39
years.
13:41
Got
13:41
a
13:41
lot
13:42
of
13:42
explaining
13:42
to
13:42
do.
13:43
More
13:43
like
13:43
a
13:43
children's
13:44
book
13:44
on
13:44
steroids.
13:45
So
13:46
you
13:46
got
13:47
this
13:47
motivation
13:48
to
13:49
through
13:49
a
13:50
real
13:50
life
13:50
situation.
13:51
And
13:51
that's
13:51
what
13:52
I
13:52
always
13:52
like
13:52
to
13:52
share
13:53
with
13:53
with
13:53
the
13:54
listening
13:54
audience
13:54
and
13:55
aspiring
13:55
authors
13:56
is
13:57
most
13:57
children's
13:57
stories
13:58
come
13:58
from
13:59
real
14:00
life
14:01
happenings.
14:02
And
14:02
myself
14:03
and
14:03
my
14:03
five
14:03
grandchildren,
14:04
we've
14:05
written
14:05
38
14:05
books.
14:06
Now
14:06
we
14:06
don't
14:06
have
14:07
them
14:07
all
14:07
published,
14:08
but
14:08
they
14:08
all
14:09
come
14:09
from
14:10
a
14:10
grain
14:11
of
14:11
truth
14:12
and
14:13
When
14:13
I
14:13
listen
14:14
to
14:14
Clark
14:14
the
14:15
mountain
14:15
beaver
14:15
and
14:16
how
14:16
that
14:16
came
14:17
about.
14:17
And
14:18
now
14:18
a
14:19
bug.
14:19
Delightful
14:20
discovery.
14:22
You
14:22
think,
14:22
oh,
14:23
my
14:23
goodness.
14:23
Again,
14:24
so
14:24
just
14:24
aspiring
14:25
authors
14:26
understand
14:26
that
14:27
all
14:27
of
14:27
these
14:28
things
14:28
generally
14:28
happen
14:29
from
14:30
your
14:30
creative
14:31
mind.
14:31
Just
14:32
grabbing
14:33
a
14:33
real
14:33
instance
14:34
and
14:34
then
14:34
turning
14:35
it
14:35
into
14:35
so
14:36
much
14:36
more.
14:37
Yeah,
14:37
exactly.
14:38
For
14:38
like
14:38
with.
14:39
And
14:39
back
14:39
to
14:39
Clark.
14:40
He
14:40
has
14:41
all
14:41
his
14:41
adventure
14:42
is
14:42
going
14:42
around
14:42
my
14:43
yard
14:43
and
14:43
encountering
14:44
all
14:44
these
14:44
different
14:45
animals.
14:45
Clark's
14:46
nocturnal,
14:47
so
14:47
he
14:47
didn't
14:47
exactly
14:48
have
14:48
those
14:48
experiences.
14:49
But
14:49
if
14:49
he
14:49
were
14:49
to
14:50
be
14:50
out
14:50
during
14:50
the
14:50
daytime,
14:51
I
14:51
took
14:52
experiences
14:52
I
14:53
had
14:53
with
14:53
the
14:53
animals
14:54
in
14:54
my
14:54
yard
14:55
and
14:55
turned
14:55
them
14:55
into
14:56
Clarks.
14:57
Have
14:57
all
14:58
this
14:58
information
14:59
just
15:00
festering
15:01
in
15:01
us,
15:01
just
15:01
waiting
15:02
for
15:02
us
15:02
aspiring
15:03
authors
15:03
to
15:03
want
15:04
to
15:04
just
15:04
bring
15:04
it
15:05
out
15:05
there.
15:05
So
15:06
you've
15:06
got
15:06
more
15:06
content
15:07
usually
15:08
within
15:08
you
15:08
than
15:08
you
15:09
even
15:09
realize.
15:09
But
15:10
once
15:10
you
15:10
start
15:10
writing,
15:11
sometimes
15:11
it
15:12
just
15:12
flows.
15:13
Yeah,
15:13
it's
15:13
pretty
15:13
amazing.
15:14
So
15:15
I'd
15:15
like
15:15
to
15:15
talk
15:15
a
15:16
little
15:16
bit
15:16
about
15:17
your
15:18
book
15:18
business
15:19
plan,
15:19
because
15:20
now
15:20
that
15:20
you
15:20
have
15:21
two
15:21
books
15:21
in
15:22
the
15:22
world
15:23
and
15:23
I've
15:23
got
15:23
your
15:24
website
15:24
up
15:24
on
15:25
my
15:25
screen
15:25
in
15:25
front
15:26
of
15:26
me
15:26
on
15:27
my
15:27
iPad,
15:27
and
15:27
it's
15:28
interesting.
15:28
The
15:29
one
15:29
thing
15:29
I
15:30
noticed
15:30
and
15:31
I've
15:31
started
15:31
to
15:31
pay
15:32
attention
15:32
more
15:33
with
15:33
children's
15:34
book
15:34
authors
15:35
is
15:35
you
15:35
have
15:36
a
15:36
catchphrase,
15:36
which
15:37
I
15:37
love.
15:38
And
15:39
for
15:39
everyone
15:40
that
15:40
goes
15:40
to
15:41
Karen's
15:42
website.
15:42
And
15:42
we
15:42
will
15:42
put
15:43
links
15:43
to
15:43
Karen's
15:44
website
15:45
in
15:45
the
15:45
show
15:45
notes.
15:46
But
15:46
the
15:46
catchphrase
15:47
is
15:47
connecting
15:48
the
15:48
young
15:49
and
15:49
the
15:49
young
15:49
at
15:50
heart.
15:50
Like,
15:51
what
15:51
a
15:51
great
15:51
tagline.
15:52
And
15:53
really
15:53
speaks
15:54
to
15:54
every.
15:55
To
15:55
your
15:55
two
15:56
books
15:56
at
15:56
this
15:56
point.
15:57
Thank
15:57
you.
15:58
Yeah.
15:58
And
15:59
I.
15:59
That's.
15:59
That
15:59
recently
16:00
came
16:00
through
16:01
this
16:01
bug
16:01
lightful
16:02
discovery
16:02
because
16:03
when
16:03
I
16:03
did
16:03
a
16:03
bug
16:04
lightful
16:04
discovery,
16:04
I
16:05
did
16:05
hire,
16:06
I
16:06
went
16:06
through
16:06
like
16:07
a
16:07
publishing
16:07
company
16:08
and
16:08
so
16:09
they
16:09
had
16:09
the
16:09
roadmap
16:10
and
16:10
she
16:11
had
16:11
all
16:11
kinds
16:12
of
16:12
great
16:12
content
16:13
and
16:13
ideas
16:13
for
16:14
marketing
16:14
and
16:14
ideas.
16:15
And
16:15
I
16:15
took
16:15
a
16:16
few
16:16
class
16:16
outside
16:17
classes
16:17
as
16:18
well.
16:19
And
16:19
that
16:20
was
16:20
one
16:20
of
16:20
the
16:20
things
16:21
that
16:21
kind
16:21
of
16:22
came
16:22
across.
16:22
Come
16:23
up
16:23
with
16:23
a
16:23
tagline
16:24
and
16:25
you
16:26
sit
16:26
there
16:26
and
16:26
you
16:26
ponder.
16:27
And
16:27
I'm
16:27
thinking,
16:27
okay,
16:27
I
16:28
want.
16:28
Clearly,
16:28
I'm
16:29
focused
16:29
on
16:29
the
16:29
young
16:30
because
16:30
I'm
16:30
doing
16:30
children's
16:31
books
16:31
at
16:31
the
16:31
moment.
16:31
But
16:32
I
16:32
also
16:32
have
16:32
other
16:32
books
16:33
I
16:33
want
16:33
to
16:33
do
16:33
that
16:33
are
16:33
more
16:34
geared
16:34
towards
16:35
more
16:35
mature
16:35
people.
16:36
And
16:36
I
16:36
don't
16:36
want
16:36
to
16:36
call
16:37
them
16:37
old
16:37
because
16:38
I
16:39
think
16:39
we
16:39
are
16:40
really,
16:40
truly,
16:40
when
16:41
we
16:41
get
16:41
rid
16:42
of
16:42
all
16:42
the
16:43
social
16:44
stigmas
16:44
around
16:45
age
16:45
and
16:45
aging
16:46
and
16:46
all
16:46
that,
16:46
we're
16:46
really
16:47
all
16:47
really
16:47
still
16:47
young
16:48
at
16:48
heart.
16:48
It's
16:49
interesting
16:49
you
16:49
should
16:50
say
16:50
that
16:50
because
16:50
that's
16:51
the
16:51
neat
16:51
thing
16:51
about
16:52
having
16:52
five
16:52
grandchildren
16:53
is
16:54
I
16:54
Get.
16:54
You
16:54
know
16:55
what?
16:55
I.
16:55
I
16:55
even
16:56
take
16:56
them
16:56
to
16:57
animated
16:57
movies.
16:58
They
16:58
think
16:59
I'm
16:59
taking
16:59
them
16:59
because
17:00
of
17:00
them.
17:01
I'm
17:02
actually
17:02
taking
17:02
them
17:03
because
17:03
of
17:03
me.
17:04
Because
17:04
I
17:04
still
17:05
get
17:05
to
17:05
be
17:05
a
17:05
big
17:06
kid
17:06
at
17:06
her.
17:07
So
17:07
I
17:08
love
17:08
it.
17:08
It's
17:08
incredible.
17:09
Exactly.
17:10
As
17:10
I
17:11
talk
17:11
to
17:11
more
17:11
children's
17:12
book
17:12
authors,
17:13
the
17:13
one
17:13
thing
17:14
that
17:14
everyone
17:15
has
17:15
to
17:15
remember
17:16
is
17:17
that
17:17
a
17:17
child
17:18
isn't
17:19
walking
17:19
around
17:20
with
17:20
$20
17:21
in
17:21
their
17:21
pocket
17:22
waiting
17:22
to
17:23
buy
17:23
their
17:23
next
17:23
children's
17:24
book.
17:25
Most
17:25
children's
17:26
books
17:26
come
17:26
to
17:26
children
17:27
through
17:28
adults.
17:30
It's
17:30
important
17:30
because
17:31
to
17:32
your
17:32
point,
17:33
you
17:33
have
17:33
to
17:33
capture
17:34
that
17:34
young
17:34
at
17:35
heart
17:35
and
17:36
adult
17:36
because
17:37
the
17:37
book
17:38
cover
17:38
or
17:39
the
17:39
theme
17:40
has
17:40
to
17:40
catch
17:40
their
17:41
imagination
17:42
too.
17:42
Otherwise
17:43
they
17:43
just
17:43
don't
17:44
take
17:44
out
17:44
their
17:45
$20
17:45
and.
17:46
Or
17:46
whatever
17:46
the
17:46
price
17:47
of
17:47
the
17:47
book
17:47
is
17:47
and
17:47
buy
17:48
it.
17:48
Exactly.
17:49
And
17:49
again,
17:49
going
17:50
back
17:50
to
17:50
my.
17:50
Oh,
17:50
I
17:50
was
17:51
in
17:51
my
17:51
50s.
17:52
I
17:52
knew
17:52
everything
17:52
and
17:53
I
17:53
knew
17:53
every.
17:54
We
17:54
could
17:54
always
17:55
learn
17:55
something
17:55
new.
17:56
There
17:56
is
17:56
always
17:56
something
17:57
new
17:57
to
17:57
learn.
17:57
And
17:58
like
17:58
we
17:58
were
17:58
talking
17:58
for
17:59
the
17:59
show.
17:59
So
17:59
much
18:00
information
18:00
can
18:00
be
18:01
learned
18:01
from
18:01
a
18:01
single
18:02
simple
18:02
children's
18:03
book.
18:03
Because
18:04
learning
18:04
doesn't
18:05
have
18:05
to
18:05
be
18:05
complicated.
18:06
It
18:07
can
18:07
be
18:07
very
18:07
simple
18:08
and
18:08
plain
18:08
and
18:08
just.
18:09
Oh
18:09
my
18:09
gosh.
18:10
So
18:10
with
18:10
the
18:11
bug
18:11
lifeful
18:11
discovery,
18:12
what
18:12
cracks
18:12
me
18:13
up
18:13
is
18:13
I.
18:13
My
18:14
dad
18:14
is
18:15
still
18:15
with
18:15
us
18:15
and
18:16
he
18:16
will
18:16
be
18:16
96
18:17
in
18:17
June.
18:18
Wow.
18:19
Congratulations.
18:20
Thank
18:20
you.
18:21
Yeah,
18:21
congratulations
18:22
to
18:22
your
18:22
dad.
18:23
Because
18:23
he's
18:24
young
18:24
at
18:24
heart,
18:24
he's
18:25
lived
18:25
a
18:25
life
18:25
of
18:25
his
18:26
passion.
18:27
But
18:27
when
18:27
he
18:27
read
18:28
my
18:28
buglifeal
18:29
discovery,
18:29
he
18:30
called
18:30
me
18:30
afterwards
18:30
and
18:31
he's.
18:31
I
18:31
was
18:31
sitting
18:31
in
18:32
the
18:32
sun
18:32
room
18:32
and
18:32
I
18:32
was
18:33
going
18:33
to
18:33
stomp
18:33
on
18:33
this
18:34
ant
18:34
and
18:34
then
18:34
I
18:34
got
18:34
up
18:35
to
18:35
stomp
18:35
on
18:35
him.
18:35
I
18:35
went,
18:36
oh,
18:36
darn
18:37
it,
18:37
I
18:37
can't
18:37
do
18:38
that.
18:38
Karen
18:38
will
18:38
get
18:39
mad
18:39
at
18:39
me.
18:40
He'll
18:41
find
18:41
a
18:41
piece
18:41
of
18:41
paper
18:42
and
18:42
pick
18:42
it
18:42
up
18:42
and
18:42
put
18:42
it
18:43
outside
18:43
and
18:43
I'm
18:43
like
18:44
cracking
18:44
up
18:44
going,
18:44
dad
18:45
at
18:45
95
18:46
years
18:46
old
18:46
for
18:47
you,
18:47
that's
18:48
terrific.
18:49
We
18:49
all
18:49
could
18:50
learn
18:50
something
18:50
new
18:51
and
18:51
change
18:51
our
18:51
behaviors
18:52
and
18:52
habits.
18:53
So
18:54
coming
18:54
back
18:54
to
18:55
the.
18:55
To
18:55
your
18:56
business
18:57
book
18:57
plan.
18:58
So
18:59
when
18:59
you
18:59
did
18:59
Clark
19:00
the
19:01
Mountain
19:01
Beaver,
19:02
did
19:03
you
19:03
have
19:03
a
19:04
clear
19:05
plan,
19:06
a
19:06
business
19:06
book
19:06
plan
19:07
for
19:07
your.
19:07
For
19:07
that
19:08
book?
19:08
I
19:09
actually
19:09
had
19:09
a
19:09
huge
19:10
marketing
19:10
plan.
19:11
I
19:11
thought
19:11
this
19:11
was
19:12
going
19:12
to
19:12
be
19:12
a
19:12
piece
19:12
of
19:13
cake.
19:13
You
19:13
just,
19:14
you
19:14
got
19:14
a
19:14
great
19:14
idea,
19:15
you
19:15
write
19:15
a
19:15
book,
19:16
you
19:16
get
19:16
an
19:16
omelet,
19:17
you
19:17
get
19:18
it
19:18
out
19:18
there
19:19
and
19:19
then
19:19
everybody
19:20
is
19:20
just
19:20
running
19:21
to
19:21
your
19:21
book.
19:22
I
19:22
find
19:22
that
19:23
the
19:23
market
19:23
of
19:23
this,
19:24
the
19:24
book
19:24
world
19:25
is
19:25
a.
19:25
Was
19:25
a
19:25
little
19:26
more
19:26
challenging
19:26
for
19:26
me.
19:27
When
19:27
you
19:27
are
19:28
self
19:28
published,
19:28
at
19:29
least
19:29
back
19:29
then.
19:29
So
19:30
this
19:30
was
19:30
10
19:30
years
19:30
ago.
19:31
Self
19:32
publishing
19:32
was
19:33
really
19:33
ramping
19:34
up
19:34
at
19:34
that
19:34
point,
19:35
but
19:35
was
19:35
still
19:35
a
19:36
little
19:36
bit
19:36
frowned
19:36
upon
19:37
unfortunately.
19:38
And
19:39
I
19:39
found
19:39
it
19:39
a
19:39
little
19:40
bit
19:40
harder
19:40
to
19:41
get
19:41
my
19:41
book
19:41
out
19:41
there.
19:41
And
19:42
I
19:42
actually
19:42
had
19:42
it
19:43
traditionally
19:43
printed.
19:44
I
19:44
wasn't
19:45
a
19:45
book
19:45
on
19:45
demand
19:46
and
19:46
all
19:46
those
19:47
conveniences
19:47
were
19:48
not
19:48
available
19:48
as
19:49
well
19:49
at
19:49
the
19:49
time.
19:50
They
19:50
were
19:50
more
19:51
for
19:51
novels
19:52
and
19:52
black
19:52
and
19:52
white
19:53
books,
19:53
but
19:53
not
19:53
necessarily
19:54
beautiful
19:55
colored
19:55
images.
19:56
I
19:56
had
19:56
them
19:56
printed.
19:57
So
19:57
I
19:57
have
19:58
a
19:58
stack
19:58
of
19:59
a
19:59
thousand
19:59
books
20:00
in
20:00
my
20:01
basement
20:02
just
20:02
waiting
20:03
for
20:03
people
20:03
to
20:03
come
20:04
to
20:04
grab
20:04
them.
20:05
And
20:05
I
20:05
found
20:06
the
20:06
marketing
20:06
was
20:06
a
20:06
little
20:07
bit
20:07
more
20:07
challenging.
20:07
I
20:07
got
20:08
some
20:08
great
20:08
support
20:09
from
20:09
some
20:09
local
20:10
bookstores
20:10
and
20:11
bird
20:11
stores
20:11
and
20:12
unique
20:12
stores
20:13
with.
20:13
I
20:14
put
20:14
it
20:14
on
20:14
Amazon
20:15
as
20:15
an
20:15
Amazon
20:16
seller
20:17
and
20:18
that
20:18
required
20:18
me
20:18
to
20:19
ship
20:19
the
20:19
books
20:20
out
20:20
and
20:20
do
20:20
all
20:20
of
20:21
that.
20:22
So
20:22
I
20:22
would
20:22
say
20:22
I
20:22
probably
20:23
fell
20:23
a
20:23
tiny
20:23
bit
20:24
short
20:24
on
20:24
my
20:24
marketing
20:25
goals
20:25
with
20:26
Clark.
20:27
But
20:27
when
20:27
I
20:27
did
20:27
Clark,
20:28
I
20:28
didn't
20:28
really
20:28
go
20:29
into
20:29
it
20:29
like,
20:29
oh,
20:29
I'm
20:29
gonna
20:30
make
20:30
a
20:30
million
20:30
dollars
20:31
and
20:31
gonna
20:31
become
20:32
this
20:32
famous
20:32
author.
20:33
My
20:33
goal
20:34
truly
20:34
was
20:34
I
20:35
just
20:35
wanna
20:35
get
20:35
this
20:35
book
20:35
into
20:36
as
20:36
many
20:36
kids
20:36
hands
20:37
as
20:37
possible
20:37
to
20:37
just
20:38
open
20:38
up
20:39
their
20:39
imaginations
20:40
and
20:40
connect
20:41
them
20:41
to
20:41
nature.
20:42
I
20:42
found
20:42
that
20:43
by
20:43
donating
20:43
a
20:44
lot
20:44
of
20:44
my
20:44
books
20:44
to
20:45
like
20:45
to
20:45
the
20:45
YMC
20:46
YMCA
20:49
groups
20:49
around
20:50
the
20:50
area
20:50
that
20:51
were
20:51
helping
20:52
some
20:52
of
20:52
the
20:52
underprivileged
20:53
kids.
20:53
He
20:53
became
20:54
like
20:54
a
20:54
huge
20:56
thing
20:56
in
20:57
that
20:57
world
20:57
and
20:58
that
20:58
made
20:58
me
20:58
feel
20:59
good.
20:59
So
20:59
he's
21:00
still
21:00
available
21:00
through
21:01
my
21:01
website
21:01
and
21:02
on
21:02
Amazon
21:02
and
21:03
things
21:03
like
21:03
that.
21:04
But
21:04
I'm
21:05
actually
21:05
thinking
21:05
of
21:06
putting
21:06
him
21:06
into
21:06
a
21:06
soft
21:07
cover
21:07
book
21:08
this
21:08
year
21:09
and
21:09
so
21:09
I
21:09
can
21:10
like
21:10
a
21:10
10
21:10
year
21:11
anniversary
21:11
to
21:11
celebrate
21:12
him
21:12
and.
21:12
Oh,
21:13
that's
21:13
a
21:13
fantastic
21:14
idea.
21:14
That's
21:15
a
21:15
few
21:15
times.
21:15
It
21:16
does
21:16
help
21:16
when
21:17
you've
21:17
got.
21:18
I
21:18
know
21:18
we
21:18
love
21:18
our
21:19
independent
21:19
bookstores
21:20
but
21:20
Amazon
21:21
is
21:21
very
21:22
far
21:22
reaching
21:23
and
21:24
people
21:24
just
21:24
need
21:24
to
21:25
be
21:25
available
21:25
at
21:25
A
21:26
Touch
21:26
of
21:26
a
21:26
button.
21:27
What's
21:27
amazing
21:27
is
21:28
I
21:28
recently
21:28
interviewed
21:29
an
21:29
author
21:30
from
21:30
Texas
21:31
and
21:32
she
21:32
sold
21:32
a
21:33
book,
21:33
one
21:33
of
21:33
her
21:34
books
21:34
in
21:35
India
21:36
and
21:36
she
21:37
thought
21:37
like,
21:38
how
21:38
is
21:38
this
21:38
possible?
21:39
Yeah,
21:40
it's
21:40
just
21:41
really
21:41
amazing
21:42
what
21:42
can
21:42
happen.
21:43
This
21:44
is
21:44
neat
21:44
listening
21:45
to
21:45
you
21:45
because
21:46
a
21:47
lot
21:47
of
21:47
the
21:48
children's
21:48
book
21:49
authors
21:49
I've
21:49
talked
21:50
to
21:50
have
21:51
they're
21:51
fairly
21:52
new
21:52
three
21:52
or
21:52
four
21:53
years
21:53
going
21:54
back
21:54
10
21:54
years.
21:54
To
21:55
your
21:55
point,
21:55
I
21:56
give
21:56
you
21:56
a
21:56
lot
21:56
of
21:56
credit
21:57
because
21:57
self
21:57
publishing,
21:58
like
21:58
you
21:58
said,
21:58
was
21:59
just
21:59
at
21:59
its
21:59
infancy.
22:00
Even
22:01
Amazon
22:02
was
22:02
at
22:02
its
22:02
infancy.
22:04
And
22:04
how
22:05
technology
22:06
has
22:06
evolved
22:06
is
22:07
absolutely
22:07
incredible.
22:09
And
22:09
it's
22:10
amazing.
22:11
And
22:11
to
22:11
your
22:12
point,
22:12
you
22:12
had
22:13
to
22:13
print
22:13
a
22:14
thousand
22:14
copies
22:15
and
22:15
distribute
22:15
them
22:16
10
22:16
years
22:16
ago.
22:17
And
22:17
you
22:17
know
22:17
what?
22:18
Here's
22:19
the
22:19
cool
22:19
thing,
22:20
Karen,
22:21
is
22:21
I
22:21
ordered
22:22
your
22:22
book.
22:22
I
22:22
had
22:23
it
22:23
the
22:23
next
22:23
day
22:24
and
22:24
I
22:24
live
22:24
in
22:24
Canada
22:25
and
22:25
you
22:25
say
22:26
what
22:26
the
22:26
heck?
22:26
Guess
22:27
where
22:27
it
22:27
was
22:27
printed.
22:29
It
22:29
was
22:29
printed
22:29
15
22:30
minutes
22:30
from
22:31
my
22:31
house.
22:31
Oh
22:32
my
22:32
goodness.
22:32
No
22:33
kidding.
22:33
It's
22:33
incredible
22:34
now
22:35
that
22:35
Amazon
22:36
has
22:36
that
22:37
vehicle
22:38
that
22:38
allows
22:39
us
22:39
to
22:39
get
22:39
overnight
22:40
service
22:41
and
22:41
to
22:41
have
22:41
a
22:42
book
22:42
because
22:42
I've
22:43
actually,
22:43
I
22:44
ordered
22:44
a
22:45
book
22:45
with
22:45
soft
22:45
cover
22:46
and
22:47
it
22:47
was
22:47
similar
22:47
to
22:48
our
22:48
book.
22:48
So
22:49
it'd
22:49
be
22:49
like
22:50
a
22:50
nine
22:50
by
22:50
nine.
22:51
Yeah.
22:52
And
22:52
what
22:53
was
22:53
interesting
22:54
is
22:54
because
22:55
the
22:55
author
22:56
used
22:56
a
22:56
third
22:57
party
22:57
printer
22:58
and
22:58
she
22:59
didn't
22:59
set
23:00
it
23:00
up
23:00
on
23:00
Amazon
23:01
where
23:02
it's
23:02
print
23:03
on
23:03
demand
23:03
and,
23:04
and
23:04
whatever
23:05
printing
23:06
market
23:06
they're
23:06
in,
23:06
that's
23:07
where
23:07
it
23:07
gets
23:07
printed.
23:08
I
23:09
ordered
23:09
that
23:09
book.
23:10
It
23:11
took
23:11
almost
23:12
a
23:13
month
23:13
for
23:13
me
23:13
to
23:13
receive
23:14
the
23:14
book.
23:15
And
23:16
I
23:16
was
23:16
thinking
23:17
I
23:17
wanted
23:18
to
23:18
get
23:18
the
23:18
book
23:19
to
23:19
support
23:19
the
23:19
author.
23:20
But
23:20
if
23:20
you're
23:21
someone
23:21
who
23:22
hears
23:23
about
23:23
a
23:23
children's
23:24
book
23:24
and
23:25
then
23:25
you
23:25
have
23:25
to
23:26
wait
23:26
a
23:26
month
23:26
to
23:26
get
23:27
it,
23:27
I'm
23:27
not
23:27
sure
23:27
how
23:28
many
23:28
people
23:28
have
23:29
the
23:29
appetite
23:30
to
23:30
wait
23:30
that
23:31
long
23:31
to
23:31
receive
23:32
a
23:32
book.
23:33
Anyways,
23:33
I
23:34
just,
23:34
I
23:34
digress
23:35
a
23:35
little
23:35
here,
23:35
but
23:35
I
23:35
just
23:36
want
23:36
aspiring
23:37
authors
23:37
to
23:37
know
23:38
that
23:38
there,
23:39
there
23:39
definitely
23:40
are
23:40
advantages
23:41
to
23:41
print
23:42
on
23:42
demand
23:42
services.
23:43
Absolutely.
23:45
Yep.
23:45
Yep.
23:46
And
23:46
they're
23:46
getting
23:46
better
23:47
every
23:47
time,
23:47
every
23:48
year
23:48
too,
23:48
which
23:48
is
23:48
nice.
23:49
So
23:49
your
23:50
website,
23:50
have
23:50
you
23:51
had
23:51
your
23:51
website
23:52
up
23:52
and
23:53
running
23:53
since
23:54
Clark
23:55
the
23:55
mountain
23:56
Beaver?
23:57
Actually,
23:57
Clark
23:58
actually
23:58
had
23:59
his
23:59
own
23:59
website
24:00
all
24:00
this
24:00
time
24:01
and
24:02
I
24:02
was
24:02
selling
24:02
the
24:03
book
24:03
through
24:03
that.
24:04
And
24:04
he
24:05
also
24:05
comes
24:05
with
24:05
a
24:05
coloring
24:06
book
24:06
too.
24:06
I
24:06
actually
24:06
did
24:07
a
24:07
coloring
24:07
book
24:07
along
24:08
with
24:08
it.
24:08
But
24:09
when
24:09
I
24:09
did
24:09
a
24:09
bug
24:10
lightful
24:10
discovery
24:11
because
24:11
the
24:11
Clark
24:12
website
24:12
was
24:13
so
24:13
Clark,
24:14
it
24:14
had
24:15
all
24:15
this
24:16
stuff
24:16
about
24:16
mountain
24:16
beavers,
24:17
Lewis
24:18
and
24:18
Clark.
24:18
It,
24:19
it
24:19
was
24:19
a
24:20
very
24:20
full
24:20
website.
24:21
So
24:22
a
24:22
bug
24:22
lightful
24:23
discovery,
24:23
I
24:23
didn't
24:23
know
24:24
how
24:24
to
24:24
connect
24:24
the
24:24
two.
24:25
So
24:25
I
24:26
actually
24:26
hired
24:26
a
24:27
web
24:27
person,
24:27
a
24:27
new
24:28
web
24:28
person
24:28
to
24:28
help
24:29
me
24:29
consolidate.
24:30
Because
24:30
when
24:30
I
24:30
did
24:31
a
24:31
bug
24:31
lightful
24:31
discovery,
24:32
I
24:32
did
24:32
do
24:32
my
24:32
karenbchay.com
24:34
website
24:34
and
24:35
pulled
24:35
Clark
24:36
into
24:36
there.
24:36
But
24:36
it
24:37
was,
24:37
it's
24:38
a
24:38
lot
24:38
of
24:38
work,
24:39
a
24:39
lot
24:39
of
24:39
time
24:40
and
24:40
energy
24:40
that
24:40
you
24:41
put
24:41
into
24:41
social
24:41
media,
24:42
into
24:42
your
24:42
marketing
24:43
and
24:43
websiteing.
24:44
So
24:45
I
24:45
then
24:45
hired
24:46
a
24:46
web
24:47
designer
24:47
to
24:48
consolidate
24:49
my
24:49
site
24:50
and
24:50
make
24:51
it
24:51
open
24:52
to
24:52
wherever
24:53
my
24:53
writing
24:53
is
24:54
going
24:54
to
24:54
take
24:54
me.
24:54
So
24:55
if
24:55
I
24:55
do
24:55
books
24:56
for
24:56
the
24:56
young
24:57
at
24:57
heart,
24:57
that
24:58
would
24:58
flow
24:59
with
25:00
my
25:00
website,
25:01
which
25:01
I
25:01
already
25:01
do,
25:02
have
25:02
a
25:02
couple
25:02
of
25:02
books
25:03
that
25:03
I
25:03
was
25:03
a
25:03
co
25:04
author
25:04
on
25:05
that
25:05
are
25:05
more
25:05
young
25:06
at
25:06
heart
25:06
focused
25:07
through
25:08
stories
25:09
publishing.
25:09
I
25:09
feel
25:10
like
25:10
the
25:10
new
25:10
website
25:11
is
25:11
a
25:11
nice
25:11
balance
25:13
and
25:13
it's
25:13
not
25:14
super
25:15
oriented
25:16
towards
25:16
children,
25:17
but
25:17
I
25:18
think
25:18
it's
25:18
light
25:18
and
25:18
it's
25:19
bright
25:19
and
25:19
it's
25:19
happy.
25:20
And
25:20
I
25:21
do
25:21
have
25:21
a
25:21
couple
25:21
of
25:21
free
25:22
downloads
25:22
there.
25:23
One
25:23
for
25:23
the
25:24
children,
25:24
one
25:24
for
25:25
the
25:25
young
25:25
at
25:25
heart.
25:26
And
25:26
I
25:26
wanted
25:27
a
25:27
new
25:27
website
25:28
that
25:28
I
25:28
could
25:28
would
25:29
grow
25:29
with
25:29
me.
25:30
What
25:30
I
25:30
noticed
25:31
is
25:32
when
25:32
I
25:32
talk
25:32
to
25:33
children's
25:33
book
25:33
authors,
25:34
they
25:34
either
25:35
have
25:35
their
25:35
website
25:36
in
25:36
their
25:36
name
25:37
or
25:37
in
25:38
our
25:38
case,
25:39
we
25:39
had
25:39
like
25:40
you
25:40
did
25:40
with
25:41
Clark,
25:41
the
25:41
Mountain
25:41
Beaver.
25:42
Ours
25:43
is
25:43
called
25:43
the
25:43
Adventures
25:44
of
25:44
Caboose
25:44
the
25:44
Rocky
25:45
Mountain
25:45
Bear.
25:46
And
25:46
so
25:46
it's
25:47
because
25:47
of
25:47
the
25:47
word
25:48
adventures
25:49
that
25:49
it
25:49
gives
25:50
us
25:50
that
25:51
broader
25:51
scope
25:52
to
25:52
be
25:52
able
25:53
to
25:53
then
25:54
fit
25:54
other
25:55
adventures
25:56
in.
25:56
That
25:57
was
25:57
our
25:57
strategy.
25:59
I
25:59
was
26:00
on
26:00
your
26:00
website
26:00
this
26:01
weekend
26:01
and
26:02
loved
26:02
your
26:02
little
26:02
book.
26:03
Can't
26:03
wait
26:03
for
26:03
the
26:03
new
26:04
books
26:04
to
26:04
come
26:04
out.
26:05
Thank
26:05
you.
26:05
That
26:06
great
26:06
stuff
26:06
on
26:06
your
26:07
website.
26:07
I
26:08
appreciate
26:08
that.
26:08
Yeah.
26:09
So
26:09
we're
26:09
having
26:09
fun.
26:10
And
26:10
you
26:10
know
26:10
what?
26:11
Like
26:11
all
26:11
websites,
26:12
whether
26:12
it's
26:13
in
26:13
your
26:14
author's
26:14
name
26:14
or
26:15
it's
26:15
in
26:15
you
26:16
in
26:16
a
26:16
brand
26:17
name,
26:17
there's
26:18
always.
26:18
You're
26:18
always
26:19
tweaking
26:19
it
26:19
and
26:20
having
26:20
fun
26:20
with
26:20
it
26:21
and
26:21
trying
26:21
to
26:22
see.
26:22
Because
26:22
it's
26:22
a
26:23
resource,
26:23
it's
26:23
also
26:24
your
26:24
home.
26:25
It's
26:25
where
26:25
everything
26:26
resides.
26:27
So
26:27
you
26:27
want
26:28
to
26:28
keep
26:28
your
26:28
home
26:29
as
26:29
organized
26:29
as
26:30
you
26:30
can
26:30
so
26:30
that
26:30
you
26:31
attract
26:31
more
26:31
people
26:32
to
26:32
come
26:32
and
26:32
visit.
26:33
Silly.
26:34
Exactly.
26:34
Yeah.
26:35
And
26:36
to
26:36
go
26:36
to
26:36
one
26:37
place
26:37
is
26:37
a
26:37
lot
26:37
better
26:37
than
26:38
go
26:38
well
26:38
for
26:38
this
26:38
go
26:38
there
26:39
and
26:39
for
26:39
that
26:39
to.
26:39
Go
26:39
there,
26:39
it
26:40
could
26:40
agree
26:40
with
26:40
you
26:40
more.
26:41
So
26:41
I
26:41
see
26:42
that
26:42
at
26:42
this
26:43
point
26:43
and
26:44
that
26:44
you
26:44
have
26:45
two.
26:45
From
26:46
what
26:46
I
26:46
can
26:46
see,
26:47
you
26:47
have
26:47
two
26:48
revenue
26:48
sources
26:49
on
26:49
your
26:49
website.
26:50
So
26:50
one
26:50
is
26:50
to
26:51
sell
26:51
your
26:52
books.
26:53
And
26:53
also
26:54
I
26:54
noticed
26:54
you
26:54
had
26:54
those
26:55
two
26:55
other
26:55
books
26:56
that
26:56
you
26:57
co
26:57
authored
26:58
to
26:58
sell
26:58
those.
26:59
Now
27:00
are
27:00
you
27:00
collecting
27:01
revenue
27:01
from
27:01
all
27:02
the
27:02
books?
27:03
No,
27:04
if
27:04
I
27:04
were
27:04
to
27:04
sell
27:05
the
27:05
other
27:05
two
27:05
books,
27:06
which
27:06
are.
27:06
It's
27:07
called
27:07
Nature
27:08
and
27:09
the
27:09
other
27:09
one
27:09
is
27:09
Spirit
27:10
Animals
27:11
only
27:11
if
27:11
I
27:11
sell
27:12
those,
27:12
my
27:13
copies
27:13
that
27:14
I
27:14
have,
27:14
if
27:14
those
27:15
were
27:15
to
27:15
sell
27:15
through
27:16
the
27:16
publisher's
27:17
website
27:17
or
27:18
through
27:18
Amazon,
27:19
I
27:19
don't
27:19
get
27:20
any
27:20
proceeds
27:20
from
27:21
them.
27:21
I
27:21
don't
27:21
royalties
27:22
of
27:22
any
27:22
store
27:23
just
27:23
if
27:23
I
27:23
sell
27:23
them.
27:24
But
27:24
my
27:25
books,
27:25
yes,
27:26
because
27:27
a
27:27
Bug
27:27
Lightful
27:27
Discovery
27:28
is
27:28
an
27:28
ingramsparks.
27:29
So
27:29
that's
27:29
the
27:30
key
27:30
distributor
27:31
for
27:31
libraries
27:32
and
27:33
bookstores
27:34
and
27:34
retailers.
27:35
If
27:35
you
27:36
can
27:36
get
27:36
your
27:36
book
27:36
onto
27:37
Ingram
27:37
Sparks,
27:38
that's
27:38
a
27:38
huge
27:38
benefit
27:39
benefit
27:39
for
27:39
getting
27:39
it
27:40
out
27:40
there
27:40
to
27:41
even
27:41
a
27:41
bigger.
27:43
I
27:43
also
27:43
noticed
27:44
you
27:44
added
27:45
as
27:45
you
27:45
talked
27:45
about
27:46
before,
27:46
which
27:47
I
27:47
love
27:47
is
27:48
I
27:48
you
27:48
added
27:49
a
27:49
unique
27:50
value
27:50
and
27:50
you're
27:51
my
27:51
first
27:51
guest
27:52
that
27:52
has
27:53
actually
27:54
done
27:54
this
27:55
as
27:55
a
27:55
bonus.
27:56
And
27:57
you
27:57
talked
27:58
about
27:58
your
27:58
free
27:59
coloring
27:59
book
27:59
that
28:00
goes
28:00
along
28:00
with
28:01
Clark
28:01
the
28:02
Mountain
28:02
Beaver.
28:02
So
28:03
I
28:03
think
28:03
it's
28:04
pretty
28:04
cool.
28:05
Is
28:05
that
28:06
adding
28:06
that
28:06
extra
28:07
value.
28:07
Tell
28:08
us
28:08
a
28:08
little
28:08
bit
28:08
about
28:09
that
28:09
strategy
28:10
and
28:10
how
28:10
it's
28:10
working.
28:11
When
28:12
I
28:12
had
28:12
hired
28:13
my
28:13
illustrator,
28:14
who
28:14
is
28:14
for
28:15
Clark
28:15
the
28:15
Mountain
28:15
Bieber
28:15
is
28:16
Kelly
28:16
Halpin,
28:16
and
28:17
she's
28:17
an
28:17
incredible
28:18
illustrator.
28:19
She
28:20
sent
28:20
me
28:20
all
28:20
the
28:20
black
28:21
and
28:21
whites
28:21
of
28:22
her
28:22
original
28:22
sketches
28:24
with
28:24
Bug
28:24
Lightful
28:25
Discovery.
28:25
I
28:26
got
28:26
them
28:26
all
28:26
in
28:26
a
28:26
digital
28:27
form,
28:27
which,
28:28
not
28:28
to
28:28
say
28:28
you
28:28
can't
28:29
print
28:29
them
28:29
out,
28:29
but
28:30
when
28:30
I
28:30
was
28:31
holding
28:31
the
28:31
black
28:31
and
28:31
white
28:32
sketch
28:32
sketches
28:32
in
28:33
my
28:33
hand,
28:33
I
28:33
was,
28:33
this
28:34
is
28:34
just
28:34
a
28:34
coloring
28:35
book
28:35
waiting
28:35
to
28:35
happen,
28:36
right?
28:36
Yeah.
28:37
And
28:37
it
28:38
wasn't
28:38
that
28:39
big
28:39
of
28:39
a
28:40
stretch.
28:40
I
28:40
did
28:40
have
28:40
those
28:41
professionally
28:41
printed
28:42
locally
28:42
here,
28:42
but
28:43
again,
28:43
it's
28:43
just
28:43
black
28:43
and
28:44
white,
28:44
so
28:44
it
28:44
wasn't
28:45
super
28:45
expensive.
28:46
So
28:46
it's
28:46
an
28:46
easy
28:47
thing
28:47
to
28:48
tack
28:48
on
28:49
to
28:49
a
28:49
book
28:49
if
28:50
you
28:50
have
28:50
the
28:50
flexibility
28:51
for
28:51
that.
28:52
And
28:52
it
28:52
did.
28:53
It
28:53
did
28:53
help.
28:54
What's
28:54
so
28:54
fun
28:54
about
28:54
the
28:54
book?
28:55
You
28:55
can
28:55
share
28:55
a
28:55
book.
28:56
This
28:56
is
28:56
my
28:56
world.
28:57
Probably
28:57
you
28:57
can
28:57
share
28:57
a
28:58
book,
28:58
but
28:58
you
28:58
cannot
28:58
share
28:59
a
28:59
coloring
28:59
book.
29:00
Right.
29:01
You
29:01
got
29:01
three
29:01
grandchildren,
29:02
right?
29:03
I'll
29:03
send
29:04
you
29:04
home
29:04
with
29:04
a
29:04
book,
29:05
or
29:05
you
29:05
can
29:05
buy
29:05
a
29:05
book,
29:05
but
29:06
I'll
29:06
throw
29:06
in
29:07
a
29:07
couple
29:07
extra
29:07
coloring
29:08
books.
29:09
I
29:09
love
29:09
it.
29:10
But
29:10
you
29:10
can
29:10
do
29:11
that
29:11
with
29:11
even
29:11
just
29:11
a
29:12
page,
29:12
right?
29:12
Because
29:12
I've
29:13
seen
29:13
a
29:13
couple
29:13
other
29:14
authors
29:14
that
29:14
I
29:14
know
29:15
that
29:15
they
29:15
offer
29:16
like
29:16
a
29:16
few
29:16
pages
29:17
out
29:17
of
29:17
their
29:18
book
29:18
that
29:18
they
29:18
can
29:18
color
29:19
creativity
29:20
flowing.
29:20
And
29:20
I'm
29:21
so
29:21
glad
29:21
you
29:21
mentioned
29:22
that,
29:22
because
29:22
I
29:22
also
29:23
want
29:23
aspiring
29:24
children's
29:24
book
29:25
authors
29:25
to
29:25
realize
29:26
that
29:27
you
29:28
can
29:28
just
29:28
talk
29:29
to
29:29
your
29:29
illustrator.
29:30
And
29:30
a
29:30
lot
29:30
of
29:30
times
29:31
you
29:31
will
29:31
find.
29:31
Because
29:32
that's
29:32
what
29:32
happened
29:32
to
29:32
us,
29:33
our
29:34
illustrator.
29:35
I
29:35
said,
29:36
could
29:36
I
29:36
get
29:36
these
29:37
in?
29:37
He
29:38
was
29:38
originally
29:38
doing
29:39
the
29:39
sketches
29:39
in
29:39
black
29:40
and
29:40
white.
29:40
And
29:41
so
29:41
they
29:41
were
29:41
coming
29:42
to
29:42
us
29:42
that
29:42
way.
29:42
And
29:43
then
29:43
I
29:43
said,
29:43
can
29:43
I
29:43
get
29:44
all
29:44
of
29:44
these
29:45
in
29:45
black
29:45
and
29:46
white?
29:46
And
29:46
he
29:47
said,
29:47
oh,
29:47
yeah,
29:47
no
29:48
problem.
29:48
And
29:48
he
29:48
sent
29:49
me
29:49
the
29:49
files.
29:50
And
29:50
I
29:50
thought,
29:51
oh,
29:51
so
29:52
now
29:52
I've
29:52
got
29:52
this
29:53
basis
29:53
for
29:54
a
29:54
coloring
29:54
book.
29:55
And
29:56
another
29:57
way
29:57
to,
29:58
like,
29:58
you've
29:58
done
29:59
Karen,
29:59
which
29:59
is
30:00
awesome,
30:01
is
30:01
to
30:01
create
30:01
a
30:02
coloring
30:02
book.
30:03
It's
30:03
low
30:03
cost.
30:04
You
30:04
can
30:04
add
30:05
it
30:05
as
30:05
an
30:05
added
30:06
value
30:06
and
30:06
help
30:07
you
30:07
sell
30:07
your
30:08
original
30:08
book.
30:09
And
30:10
also
30:11
you
30:11
can
30:12
also
30:13
sell
30:13
it
30:13
as
30:13
a
30:14
product.
30:15
So
30:15
either
30:15
way,
30:16
it's
30:16
a
30:16
win
30:17
win
30:17
for
30:17
everyone.
30:18
Congratulations
30:19
on
30:19
doing
30:19
that.
30:19
Thank
30:20
you.
30:20
Thank
30:20
you.
30:20
And
30:20
what
30:20
I
30:21
think
30:21
is
30:21
what
30:21
fun
30:21
is
30:22
what's
30:22
fun
30:22
for
30:22
the
30:22
kids
30:23
when
30:23
they
30:23
do
30:23
that.
30:24
If
30:24
they're
30:24
shy
30:25
about
30:25
Coloring
30:26
or
30:26
drawing,
30:27
they
30:27
can
30:27
just
30:27
follow
30:28
the
30:28
page
30:28
if
30:29
they've
30:29
got
30:29
this
30:29
creative
30:30
energy
30:31
wanting
30:31
to
30:31
burst
30:32
out
30:32
and
30:32
they
30:32
could
30:33
paint,
30:34
they
30:34
could
30:34
color
30:34
Clark
30:35
purple
30:35
if
30:35
they
30:35
want.
30:36
Absolutely.
30:36
I
30:36
mean
30:36
it
30:36
was
30:36
just
30:37
what
30:37
would
30:37
you
30:38
create
30:38
the
30:38
thing
30:38
that
30:39
gives
30:39
them
30:39
a
30:39
whole
30:40
new
30:40
canvas
30:41
to
30:41
work
30:42
from.
30:42
And
30:42
it's
30:42
funny
30:43
you
30:43
should
30:43
say
30:43
that
30:44
because
30:44
a
30:45
lot
30:45
of
30:45
times
30:45
I'll
30:46
take
30:46
our
30:46
grandchildren
30:47
especially
30:48
my
30:48
son
30:49
has
30:49
three,
30:50
two
30:50
boys
30:50
and
30:50
a
30:51
girl
30:51
and
30:51
we'll
30:51
go
30:51
out
30:52
for
30:52
supper
30:53
and
30:53
of
30:53
course
30:53
they
30:53
get
30:54
crayons
30:54
and
30:54
a
30:55
place
30:55
mat
30:55
and
30:56
they
30:56
get
30:56
to
30:56
color
30:56
them.
30:57
Each
30:57
one
30:58
of
30:58
them,
30:58
it's
30:58
the
30:59
same
30:59
illustration
31:00
but
31:01
they
31:01
look
31:01
totally
31:02
different
31:02
with
31:02
the
31:03
end
31:03
product.
31:03
Exactly.
31:04
Yeah.
31:04
And
31:04
don't
31:05
you
31:05
love
31:05
that
31:05
because
31:05
that's
31:06
their
31:06
personalities
31:07
and
31:07
creativity
31:08
coming
31:08
out
31:08
which
31:09
is
31:09
what
31:09
you
31:09
want
31:09
to
31:10
nurture.
31:10
I
31:11
couldn't
31:11
agree
31:11
with
31:11
you
31:11
more.
31:12
So
31:13
I
31:13
also
31:14
noticed
31:14
on
31:14
your
31:15
website
31:15
you
31:16
say
31:16
you're
31:16
a
31:16
photographer.
31:17
Do
31:17
you
31:17
earn
31:18
revenue
31:18
from
31:19
being
31:19
a
31:19
photographer?
31:20
I
31:20
do
31:21
not
31:21
at
31:21
this
31:22
point.
31:22
I
31:23
would
31:23
like
31:23
to.
31:23
That's
31:24
again
31:24
going
31:24
back
31:24
to
31:25
my
31:25
website.
31:26
I'm
31:26
hoping
31:26
to
31:27
come
31:27
up
31:27
with
31:27
some
31:27
products.
31:28
Actually
31:29
one
31:29
of
31:29
the
31:29
products
31:29
I
31:29
did
31:30
come
31:30
up
31:30
with
31:30
does
31:30
include
31:31
my
31:31
photography.
31:32
It's
31:32
one
31:32
of
31:32
the
31:32
free
31:32
downloads
31:33
but
31:33
it's
31:34
inspirational
31:35
notes
31:35
and
31:35
cards
31:36
for
31:36
the
31:36
young
31:37
at
31:37
heart.
31:37
Not
31:37
to
31:37
say
31:37
that
31:38
kids
31:38
can't
31:38
get
31:39
enjoy
31:39
it
31:39
either.
31:40
I
31:40
take
31:40
my
31:40
photographs
31:41
and
31:41
then
31:41
whatever
31:42
kind
31:42
of
31:42
inspirational
31:43
saying
31:44
inspired
31:45
that
31:45
I
31:45
put
31:45
that
31:45
on
31:46
there.
31:46
But
31:47
I
31:47
hope
31:47
in
31:47
the
31:47
future
31:48
like
31:48
I
31:48
might.
31:48
I
31:49
love
31:49
cards
31:49
and
31:50
I'm
31:50
still
31:50
very
31:51
old
31:51
fashioned
31:51
that
31:51
I
31:52
like
31:52
writing
31:53
cards
31:53
to
31:53
people
31:54
and
31:54
mailing
31:55
cards
31:55
to
31:55
people
31:56
the
31:56
old
31:57
fashioned
31:57
way.
31:58
And
31:58
so
31:58
I
31:58
would
31:59
like
31:59
to
31:59
come
31:59
up
31:59
with
31:59
maybe
32:00
some
32:00
cards
32:00
with
32:01
my
32:01
photography
32:01
and
32:02
things
32:02
like
32:02
that
32:02
but
32:03
I
32:03
don't
32:03
know
32:03
where
32:03
that'll
32:04
evolve.
32:04
I
32:04
just
32:04
wanted
32:05
to
32:05
keep
32:05
my
32:05
website
32:06
open
32:06
to
32:07
it.
32:07
But
32:07
photography
32:08
is
32:09
my
32:09
way
32:09
of
32:09
really
32:10
thanking
32:10
nature
32:11
a
32:11
little
32:11
bit
32:11
because
32:11
I'll
32:12
take
32:12
a
32:12
picture
32:12
of
32:12
this
32:12
beautiful
32:13
flower
32:13
and
32:13
it
32:13
puts
32:14
you
32:14
in
32:14
that
32:14
moment
32:15
and
32:15
it
32:16
puts
32:16
you
32:16
like
32:17
in
32:17
the
32:17
gratitude
32:18
and
32:18
appreciation
32:19
that
32:19
couldn't
32:20
have
32:20
happened
32:20
without
32:21
that
32:21
beautiful
32:21
flower
32:22
or
32:22
the
32:22
sun
32:22
hitting
32:23
the
32:23
pine
32:23
tree
32:24
just
32:24
perfectly
32:25
to
32:25
light
32:26
your
32:26
soul
32:26
and
32:26
say
32:27
ah,
32:27
thank
32:27
you
32:28
Mother
32:28
Nature
32:28
because
32:29
my
32:29
wife
32:29
and.
32:29
I
32:29
just
32:30
came
32:30
back
32:30
from
32:30
a
32:30
mini
32:31
vacation
32:32
to
32:32
Jasper.
32:33
Oh,
32:33
I
32:34
love
32:34
Jasper.
32:35
Really?
32:35
That's
32:36
when
32:36
you
32:36
were.
32:36
Unfortunately
32:37
there
32:38
was.
32:38
You
32:38
probably
32:39
heard
32:39
last
32:39
year
32:39
you
32:40
probably
32:40
got
32:40
the
32:40
smoke
32:41
where
32:41
you
32:41
live.
32:42
Yeah,
32:43
there
32:43
was
32:43
a
32:43
fire.
32:43
Was
32:44
it?
32:44
Yeah,
32:44
it
32:45
was
32:45
devastating
32:46
because
32:46
I'd
32:46
say
32:47
about
32:47
a
32:48
quarter
32:48
of
32:48
the
32:49
town
32:49
site
32:49
got
32:50
burnt.
32:51
Luckily
32:52
most
32:52
of
32:52
the
32:54
historic
32:54
buildings
32:55
for
32:55
whatever
32:56
reason,
32:56
maybe
32:57
God
32:57
was
32:57
taking
32:58
care
32:58
of
32:58
Jasper.
32:58
Or
32:59
whatever.
32:59
But
32:59
they
33:00
jumped
33:00
over
33:00
those
33:01
buildings.
33:01
But
33:02
wow.
33:02
But
33:03
I'm
33:03
still
33:03
encouraging
33:04
people
33:04
to
33:04
go
33:05
come
33:05
back
33:05
and
33:06
visit
33:06
Jasper
33:07
because
33:07
it's
33:07
such
33:07
a
33:07
beautiful
33:08
place.
33:08
Oh
33:09
my
33:09
gosh.
33:09
It's
33:10
a
33:10
magical
33:10
park.
33:11
Beautiful
33:11
place.
33:12
Yeah.
33:12
And
33:12
I
33:13
know
33:13
fires
33:13
are
33:13
very
33:14
hard
33:14
and
33:15
devastating,
33:15
but
33:16
the
33:16
earth
33:16
does
33:17
need
33:17
the
33:18
fires
33:18
to
33:18
help
33:19
rejuvenate
33:20
the
33:20
earth
33:21
and
33:21
the
33:21
plants
33:21
sometimes.
33:22
Yeah.
33:22
And
33:22
you
33:22
could
33:23
see
33:23
because
33:23
we
33:24
were
33:24
there
33:25
last
33:25
week,
33:26
so
33:26
that's
33:26
about
33:27
nine
33:27
months
33:27
ago,
33:28
like
33:28
when
33:29
the
33:29
fires
33:29
happened
33:30
and
33:30
you
33:30
could
33:30
already
33:31
see
33:31
things
33:31
coming
33:32
back
33:32
to
33:32
life.
33:32
But
33:33
you
33:33
know
33:33
what
33:33
the
33:33
townspeople
33:34
said
33:34
to
33:35
us?
33:35
They
33:36
said
33:36
what
33:37
they
33:37
were
33:37
so
33:37
excited
33:38
about
33:39
is
33:40
that
33:40
all
33:40
of
33:41
the
33:41
animals
33:42
were
33:43
returning.
33:44
So
33:44
the
33:44
elk
33:45
and
33:45
the
33:46
mountain
33:46
goats
33:47
and
33:48
the
33:48
beavers,
33:50
all
33:50
of
33:50
that
33:50
was
33:51
returning
33:52
and
33:52
so
33:53
that
33:53
they
33:54
knew
33:54
that
33:55
things
33:55
were
33:55
getting
33:56
healthier
33:57
because
33:57
of
33:57
the
33:57
return
33:58
of
33:58
the
33:58
animals.
33:58
Very
33:59
important.
34:00
Yes,
34:00
yes.
34:01
What
34:01
would
34:01
be
34:02
your
34:02
primary
34:03
revenue
34:03
source
34:04
as
34:04
a
34:04
children's
34:04
book
34:05
author?
34:06
My
34:06
books
34:06
themselves.
34:07
Right.
34:08
Are
34:08
my
34:08
biggest
34:09
resource.
34:10
You
34:10
can
34:11
make
34:11
a
34:11
decent
34:12
amount
34:12
of
34:12
money
34:12
if
34:13
you
34:13
can
34:13
sell
34:13
a
34:13
lot
34:13
off
34:14
of
34:14
Amazon.
34:15
I'm
34:15
finding
34:15
that
34:15
I
34:16
have
34:16
peak
34:16
and
34:16
valleys
34:17
with
34:17
that.
34:18
Depending
34:18
on
34:19
seasons,
34:20
time
34:20
of
34:20
the
34:20
year,
34:21
things
34:21
like
34:21
that.
34:22
We're
34:23
getting
34:23
into
34:23
bug
34:23
season,
34:24
so
34:25
yes,
34:25
that's
34:25
a
34:25
really
34:26
easy
34:26
time
34:26
to
34:27
start
34:27
promoting,
34:27
you
34:28
know,
34:28
bug
34:28
light
34:28
bulb
34:28
discover.
34:29
Absolutely,
34:30
absolutely.
34:31
So
34:32
yeah,
34:32
so
34:32
really
34:33
it's
34:33
my
34:33
books.
34:33
I
34:33
haven't
34:34
done
34:34
the
34:34
book
34:35
readings
34:36
and
34:36
the,
34:37
the
34:37
talks
34:37
at
34:38
libraries
34:38
and
34:39
bookstores.
34:40
I
34:40
haven't
34:41
asked
34:41
to
34:41
be
34:41
paid
34:42
for
34:42
those
34:42
for
34:43
some
34:43
reason.
34:43
Again.
34:44
And
34:44
part
34:44
of
34:44
it
34:44
is
34:45
I
34:45
just
34:45
want
34:46
to
34:46
get
34:46
my
34:46
kids,
34:46
my
34:47
books
34:47
into
34:47
as
34:47
many
34:47
kids
34:48
hands
34:48
as
34:48
possible.
34:49
And
34:50
I
34:50
think
34:50
at
34:50
some
34:50
point
34:51
that
34:51
might
34:51
be
34:51
practical
34:52
for
34:52
me.
34:53
But
34:53
you
34:54
know,
34:54
I
34:54
just
34:54
haven't
34:54
done
34:54
that.
34:54
Like
34:55
I
34:55
have
34:55
a
34:55
story
34:55
time
34:56
coming
34:56
up
34:56
in
34:56
a
34:56
couple
34:57
of
34:57
weeks
34:57
and
34:57
it's.
34:57
I
34:58
just
34:58
want
34:58
to
34:59
give
34:59
it
34:59
exposure
34:59
and
35:00
then
35:00
I
35:00
hope
35:00
something
35:01
builds
35:01
from
35:01
that
35:02
so
35:02
I'm
35:02
open
35:02
to
35:02
whatever
35:03
will
35:03
come
35:03
from
35:04
it
35:04
all.
35:04
But
35:04
right
35:04
now
35:05
I
35:05
haven't
35:06
asked
35:06
for
35:07
any.
35:07
Good.
35:08
Because
35:09
I,
35:09
I
35:09
want,
35:09
I
35:10
want
35:10
to
35:10
pick
35:10
up
35:10
on
35:10
something
35:11
you
35:11
said
35:11
before.
35:11
We
35:11
miss
35:12
it.
35:12
I
35:12
don't
35:12
want
35:12
to
35:12
miss
35:13
it.
35:13
Is
35:14
at
35:14
the
35:14
very
35:14
back
35:15
of
35:15
your
35:15
book
35:16
there
35:16
is
35:17
one
35:17
page.
35:18
It's
35:18
called
35:18
why
35:19
Bugs
35:20
are
35:20
good.
35:21
Just
35:21
explain
35:21
that
35:22
because
35:22
I
35:22
know
35:22
you're
35:22
talking
35:23
about
35:24
this
35:24
time
35:24
of
35:24
the
35:24
year
35:25
with
35:25
bugs.
35:26
It's
35:26
such
35:26
a
35:27
nice
35:27
feature.
35:28
Yeah.
35:28
So
35:29
that
35:29
that
35:29
page
35:29
is
35:30
actually
35:30
really
35:30
fun
35:30
when
35:30
I
35:31
do
35:31
the
35:31
book
35:31
readings
35:31
to
35:32
kids
35:32
because
35:32
I'll
35:32
read
35:32
the
35:33
book
35:33
and
35:33
then
35:33
instead
35:33
of
35:33
reading
35:34
that
35:34
page,
35:34
the
35:34
last
35:35
page
35:35
is.
35:36
Explains
35:36
why
35:36
bugs
35:37
are
35:37
good.
35:37
Just
35:38
highlights
35:38
three
35:39
simple
35:40
Things
35:40
there
35:41
are.
35:41
Bugs
35:41
are
35:41
good
35:42
for
35:42
many
35:42
reasons,
35:43
but
35:43
they
35:43
focus
35:44
on.
35:44
They
35:44
help
35:45
with
35:45
our
35:45
food,
35:46
right?
35:46
We
35:46
wouldn't
35:46
have
35:46
food
35:47
if
35:47
it
35:47
wasn't
35:47
for
35:47
bugs.
35:48
They
35:48
are
35:49
food
35:49
as
35:49
well
35:50
for
35:50
other
35:50
animals
35:51
and
35:51
they
35:51
keep
35:52
the
35:52
earth
35:52
healthy.
35:53
So
35:53
when
35:53
I
35:53
get
35:53
to
35:54
that
35:54
page
35:54
with
35:54
the
35:54
readings,
35:55
it's
35:55
hysterical
35:56
because
35:56
I'll
35:56
be
35:56
like,
35:56
okay,
35:56
why
35:57
are
35:57
bugs
35:57
good?
35:57
And
35:57
so
35:58
kids
35:58
will
35:58
be
35:58
like,
35:58
putting
35:59
their
35:59
arms
35:59
up
36:00
and
36:00
they'll
36:01
say
36:01
they
36:01
know
36:01
they
36:02
for
36:02
food
36:02
and
36:03
this.
36:03
And
36:03
then
36:04
at
36:04
the
36:04
bottom
36:05
of
36:05
the
36:05
page,
36:05
I
36:05
give
36:05
them
36:06
an
36:06
example
36:06
of
36:06
how
36:07
they
36:07
could
36:07
protect
36:07
bugs.
36:08
So
36:09
if
36:09
they
36:09
were
36:09
to
36:09
find
36:10
a
36:10
bug
36:10
in
36:10
their
36:11
house,
36:11
how
36:11
they
36:11
could
36:12
grab
36:12
the
36:12
bug
36:13
and
36:13
put
36:13
it
36:13
outside
36:14
safely
36:15
by
36:15
using
36:15
a
36:16
cup
36:16
and
36:16
a
36:16
piece
36:16
of
36:16
paper.
36:17
So
36:17
that's
36:17
where
36:18
it
36:18
gets
36:18
really
36:19
fun
36:19
with
36:19
the
36:19
kids.
36:20
Because
36:21
one
36:21
little
36:21
boy
36:22
that
36:22
was
36:22
like,
36:22
when
36:23
we
36:23
see
36:23
a
36:23
spider,
36:24
we
36:25
kill.
36:27
Not
36:27
that
36:28
we
36:28
know
36:28
that
36:29
bug
36:29
might
36:29
be.
36:30
I'm
36:30
like,
36:30
then
36:30
you
36:30
can
36:30
go
36:31
home
36:31
and
36:31
maybe
36:31
you
36:31
can
36:31
teach
36:32
your
36:32
parents
36:33
how
36:34
pick
36:34
up
36:34
a
36:34
bug
36:35
without
36:35
harming
36:35
it
36:36
and
36:36
being
36:36
helpful
36:37
to
36:37
nature.
36:38
And
36:38
they're
36:38
like,
36:38
okay,
36:39
yeah,
36:39
we'll
36:39
go
36:39
tell
36:40
our
36:40
parents.
36:40
And
36:40
I'm
36:40
like,
36:40
oh,
36:41
boy.
36:41
I
36:41
probably
36:42
want
36:42
all
36:42
these
36:42
parents,
36:43
like
36:43
going,
36:43
oh,
36:44
thanks
36:44
a
36:44
lot.
36:45
Kids
36:46
love
36:46
that.
36:46
They're
36:46
into
36:47
it.
36:47
When
36:47
again,
36:48
we.
36:48
The
36:49
kids
36:49
are
36:49
just
36:50
so
36:50
innocent
36:51
and
36:51
such
36:51
a
36:51
blank
36:52
canvas.
36:52
And
36:52
they
36:52
come
36:53
out
36:53
with,
36:53
I
36:54
have
36:54
two
36:54
granddaughters.
36:55
But
36:56
seeing
36:57
how
36:57
pure
36:58
joy
36:58
they
36:58
are,
36:58
how
36:59
they're.
36:59
They
36:59
are
37:00
unconditional
37:00
love.
37:01
When
37:01
they
37:01
come
37:01
out,
37:02
we
37:02
start
37:02
teaching
37:03
them
37:03
a
37:04
spider
37:04
is
37:04
scary.
37:05
They
37:05
don't
37:05
think
37:06
a
37:06
spider
37:06
scary
37:07
until
37:08
we
37:08
start
37:09
teaching
37:09
them.
37:09
So
37:10
now
37:10
I've
37:10
got
37:11
children
37:11
going
37:12
to
37:12
reteach
37:12
their
37:13
parents,
37:13
I
37:13
think
37:13
a
37:14
little.
37:14
Bit,
37:14
but
37:14
I
37:15
love
37:15
it
37:16
for
37:16
sure.
37:17
So
37:17
I
37:17
want
37:18
to
37:18
pick
37:18
up
37:18
on
37:18
what
37:19
you
37:19
talked
37:19
about
37:19
earlier,
37:20
and
37:20
it's.
37:21
I
37:21
want
37:21
to
37:21
talk
37:22
about
37:22
your
37:22
publishing
37:23
approach.
37:23
Like
37:23
I
37:24
said
37:24
to
37:24
you,
37:24
I
37:24
think
37:25
you
37:25
were
37:25
a
37:25
trailblazer
37:26
ten
37:26
years
37:27
ago
37:27
in
37:28
this
37:28
whole
37:28
self
37:29
publishing
37:29
realm.
37:30
And
37:31
now
37:31
I
37:31
think
37:32
from
37:32
what
37:32
I'm
37:33
gathering
37:33
about,
37:34
Delightful
37:35
Discovery
37:36
is
37:36
more
37:37
of
37:37
a.
37:37
I
37:38
would
37:38
call
37:38
it
37:38
a
37:38
hybrid
37:39
publishing.
37:40
Like,
37:40
it's
37:40
still
37:40
self
37:41
publishing.
37:41
It's
37:42
more
37:42
of
37:42
a
37:42
hybrid
37:43
where
37:43
you've
37:43
got
37:44
a
37:44
company
37:45
involved
37:45
with
37:45
you.
37:46
Is
37:46
that
37:46
correct?
37:47
Right?
37:47
That
37:47
is
37:47
correct,
37:48
yes.
37:49
And
37:49
I
37:49
use
37:49
Miriam
37:50
Laundrie
37:50
Publishing,
37:51
which
37:51
is
37:51
a
37:51
Canadian
37:52
company.
37:53
Yay,
37:53
Canadian.
37:54
And
37:55
I
37:55
chose
37:55
to
37:55
go
37:56
that
37:56
route
37:56
because,
37:57
like,
37:57
with
37:57
Clark,
37:57
I
37:57
did
37:58
do
37:58
it
37:58
self
37:58
publishing.
37:59
I
37:59
did
37:59
take
38:00
classes.
38:00
I
38:01
was
38:01
part
38:01
of
38:01
a
38:01
book
38:01
group.
38:02
I
38:02
did
38:02
all
38:02
that
38:02
kind
38:02
of
38:03
stuff,
38:03
but
38:03
it
38:04
wasn't
38:04
really
38:04
geared
38:05
towards
38:05
children's
38:06
books.
38:06
And
38:06
I
38:06
knew
38:07
this
38:07
book
38:07
I
38:08
Didn't
38:08
want
38:08
to
38:08
make
38:08
the
38:08
same
38:09
mistakes
38:10
and
38:10
I
38:11
wanted
38:11
it
38:12
to
38:12
be
38:12
a
38:13
more.
38:13
A
38:14
quicker
38:14
process
38:15
as
38:15
well.
38:15
And
38:15
so
38:16
what
38:16
Miriam
38:16
Laundry
38:17
Publishing
38:17
offers
38:18
is
38:19
she
38:20
has
38:20
an
38:20
incredible
38:21
roadmap
38:21
to
38:22
follow.
38:22
She
38:23
has
38:23
got
38:24
the
38:24
outline
38:25
figured
38:25
out
38:26
completely.
38:27
So
38:27
I
38:27
was
38:27
still
38:28
able
38:28
to
38:28
hire
38:28
my
38:29
own
38:29
illustrator
38:30
because
38:30
I
38:30
do
38:31
a
38:31
little
38:31
bit
38:31
control
38:31
over
38:32
my
38:32
book.
38:32
I
38:32
want
38:33
to.
38:33
I
38:33
don't
38:33
want
38:33
to
38:34
write,
38:34
put
38:34
all
38:34
this
38:35
energy
38:35
and
38:35
effort
38:35
into
38:36
it
38:36
and
38:36
then
38:36
have
38:36
somebody
38:36
else
38:37
coming
38:37
telling
38:37
me
38:37
what
38:38
the
38:38
COVID
38:38
is
38:38
going
38:38
to
38:38
look
38:38
like
38:39
and
38:39
who's
38:39
going
38:39
to
38:40
draw
38:40
it
38:40
and
38:40
who's
38:40
going
38:40
to
38:40
edit
38:41
it.
38:41
So
38:42
I
38:42
was
38:42
able.
38:43
I
38:43
have
38:43
a
38:43
little
38:43
bit
38:44
more
38:44
freedom
38:44
with
38:44
that.
38:45
But
38:45
she
38:45
gives
38:45
you
38:45
the
38:45
roadmap.
38:46
She's
38:46
got.
38:47
You've
38:47
got
38:47
access
38:48
to
38:48
some
38:48
of
38:48
her
38:48
talent
38:49
as
38:49
far
38:49
as
38:49
an
38:50
editor
38:50
and
38:50
book
38:50
designers
38:51
and
38:52
things
38:52
like
38:52
that.
38:53
And
38:54
then
38:54
they
38:55
help
38:55
you
38:55
with
38:56
the
38:56
marketing.
38:56
They
38:57
help
38:57
get
38:57
you
38:58
uploaded
38:58
to
38:58
Amazon
38:59
and
38:59
ingramsparks.
39:00
And
39:01
because
39:01
that
39:01
stuff
39:02
is.
39:02
It's
39:02
not
39:02
only
39:02
time
39:03
to
39:03
do,
39:03
but
39:03
it
39:03
takes
39:03
a
39:04
lot.
39:04
There's
39:04
a
39:04
lot
39:05
of
39:05
rules.
39:05
Like
39:06
we've
39:06
said,
39:06
clear
39:07
the
39:07
book.
39:07
Absolutely.
39:08
So
39:09
I
39:09
really
39:09
appreciated
39:10
that
39:10
from
39:11
that.
39:11
And
39:12
I
39:12
would
39:12
recommend
39:13
that
39:13
if,
39:13
especially
39:14
if
39:14
you're
39:15
new
39:15
to
39:15
children's
39:16
books.
39:16
And
39:17
I
39:17
just
39:17
want
39:17
everybody
39:18
to
39:18
understand
39:18
that
39:19
the.
39:19
I
39:19
think
39:20
the
39:20
hybrid
39:20
services
39:21
are
39:21
great.
39:22
Sometimes
39:23
the
39:23
only
39:24
thing
39:24
that
39:24
I
39:25
find
39:25
is
39:26
from
39:26
a
39:26
distribution
39:27
angle
39:28
is
39:28
that
39:28
if
39:29
you
39:29
can
39:29
find
39:29
a
39:29
book
39:30
formatter
39:30
that
39:31
can
39:31
help
39:31
you
39:31
get
39:31
it
39:32
downloaded
39:33
to
39:33
Amazon
39:33
and
39:34
to
39:34
ingramsparks,
39:35
you
39:35
can
39:36
take
39:37
a
39:37
little
39:37
bit
39:37
more
39:37
control
39:38
over
39:39
your
39:39
book.
39:40
And
39:41
that
39:41
would
39:41
be
39:41
the
39:41
only
39:42
suggestion
39:43
that
39:43
I
39:43
would
39:43
make
39:44
because
39:44
I
39:44
found
39:44
with
39:45
some
39:45
of
39:45
the.
39:45
Now,
39:46
I'm
39:46
not
39:46
saying
39:46
with
39:47
the
39:47
company
39:47
that
39:47
you're
39:47
dealing
39:48
with,
39:48
but
39:48
I
39:48
found
39:49
with
39:49
some
39:49
of
39:49
them,
39:49
like
39:50
I
39:50
said,
39:50
when
39:51
someone's
39:52
children's
39:53
book
39:53
that
39:53
I
39:54
bought
39:54
on
39:54
Amazon
39:55
takes
39:55
almost
39:56
a
39:56
month
39:56
to
39:56
be
39:56
delivered,
39:57
then
39:58
I
39:58
know
39:58
they're
39:58
going
39:58
through
39:59
a
39:59
third
39:59
party
40:00
and
40:00
they're
40:00
adding
40:01
an
40:01
extra
40:01
step
40:02
and
40:02
they're
40:02
also
40:02
adding
40:04
cost
40:04
to
40:04
their
40:05
whole
40:05
program.
40:06
If
40:06
you
40:06
can
40:07
find
40:07
a
40:07
book
40:08
formatter
40:09
who
40:09
knows
40:10
how
40:10
to
40:10
work
40:10
with
40:11
Amazon
40:12
and
40:12
ingramsparks,
40:14
you
40:14
can
40:14
definitely
40:15
get
40:15
your
40:15
book
40:16
into
40:16
distribution
40:17
or
40:18
make
40:18
the
40:18
delivery
40:19
time
40:19
much
40:19
shorter.
40:20
So
40:20
that
40:20
would
40:20
be
40:20
the
40:20
only
40:21
thing
40:21
that
40:21
I
40:22
would
40:22
have
40:22
people
40:23
look
40:23
for
40:23
when
40:23
they're
40:24
doing
40:24
that,
40:24
I
40:25
would
40:25
agree.
40:25
And
40:25
I
40:25
don't
40:25
know
40:26
not
40:26
to.
40:26
Big
40:26
publishing
40:27
companies
40:28
are
40:28
great
40:28
and
40:28
they
40:28
serve
40:29
an
40:29
incredible
40:30
purpose.
40:30
It's
40:31
just
40:31
harder
40:31
to
40:31
get
40:31
your
40:31
foot
40:32
in
40:32
the
40:32
door
40:32
when
40:32
you're
40:32
a
40:33
new
40:33
author
40:33
and
40:33
you
40:34
don't
40:34
have
40:35
a
40:35
slew
40:35
of
40:36
awards
40:36
to
40:37
show
40:37
behind
40:37
you
40:38
or
40:39
a
40:39
huge
40:39
following
40:40
because
40:40
they
40:41
do
40:41
look
40:41
at
40:41
what's
40:41
going
40:42
on
40:42
with
40:42
your
40:42
social
40:43
media,
40:43
from
40:43
what
40:43
I've
40:43
heard
40:44
and
40:44
things
40:44
like
40:44
that.
40:44
With
40:45
the
40:45
Clark
40:45
book,
40:46
part
40:46
of
40:46
the
40:46
reason
40:46
I
40:47
definitely
40:47
went
40:47
self
40:47
publishing
40:48
was
40:48
because
40:48
I
40:49
didn't
40:49
want
40:49
it
40:49
to
40:49
take
40:50
so
40:50
long.
40:51
It
40:51
took
40:51
about
40:51
four
40:52
years
40:52
from
40:52
start
40:53
to
40:53
finish,
40:53
but
40:54
I
40:54
wanted
40:54
to
40:54
take
40:55
10.
40:55
And
40:56
some
40:56
of
40:56
the
40:56
other
40:56
authors
40:57
I
40:57
was
40:57
meeting,
40:58
like
40:58
they
40:58
had
40:58
been
40:59
working
41:00
with
41:00
the
41:00
publisher
41:00
but
41:01
still
41:01
going
41:02
at
41:02
it.
41:02
And
41:02
I
41:02
was
41:02
like,
41:03
okay,
41:03
I
41:04
would
41:04
get
41:04
in
41:04
a
41:04
little
41:04
more
41:05
immediately,
41:06
but
41:06
there's
41:06
so
41:06
many
41:07
tools
41:07
and
41:07
resources
41:08
out
41:08
there
41:08
for
41:09
publishing,
41:09
for
41:10
writing
41:10
books.
41:11
Even
41:11
the
41:11
Miriam
41:12
Laundrie,
41:12
she's
41:12
got
41:12
a
41:13
great
41:13
masterclass
41:14
just
41:14
on
41:15
giving
41:15
you
41:16
the
41:16
roadmap
41:16
on
41:17
how
41:17
to
41:17
do
41:17
a
41:17
children's
41:18
book
41:18
and
41:18
how
41:18
to
41:18
do
41:18
it
41:18
properly.
41:19
And
41:19
a
41:19
word
41:19
count
41:20
is
41:20
a
41:20
huge
41:21
thing.
41:21
Like
41:22
you
41:22
said,
41:22
it's
41:22
incredible.
41:23
It's
41:23
what
41:24
technology
41:25
has
41:25
allowed
41:26
all
41:26
of
41:26
us
41:26
to
41:26
have
41:27
access
41:27
to.
41:28
Now
41:28
that
41:29
that's
41:29
amazing
41:30
to
41:30
me
41:31
because
41:31
next
41:31
week
41:32
I
41:32
actually
41:32
have.
41:33
One
41:33
of
41:33
the
41:33
things
41:33
I
41:34
found
41:35
doing
41:35
this
41:35
podcast
41:36
show
41:36
is
41:37
I'm
41:37
getting
41:38
interest
41:38
also
41:39
in
41:40
bringing
41:40
on
41:41
the
41:42
children's
41:42
book
41:43
authors.
41:43
I
41:44
call
41:44
them
41:44
the
41:44
dream
41:45
team.
41:46
So
41:46
it's
41:46
the
41:47
people
41:47
who
41:47
are
41:48
behind
41:48
the
41:48
scenes
41:49
helping
41:49
you
41:50
bring
41:50
your
41:50
dream
41:50
to
41:51
reality.
41:51
Next
41:52
week
41:52
I've
41:52
got
41:52
someone
41:53
coming
41:53
on
41:53
who's
41:54
a
41:54
graphic
41:55
designer,
41:56
works
41:56
on
41:57
book
41:57
covers
41:58
front
41:58
and
41:59
back
41:59
and
41:59
the
41:59
spine
42:00
and
42:01
those
42:02
type
42:02
of
42:02
things.
42:02
It
42:03
should
42:03
be
42:03
interesting
42:04
to
42:04
get
42:05
that
42:05
information
42:06
out
42:06
to
42:07
people.
42:08
And
42:09
that's
42:09
great
42:09
idea.
42:10
Great.
42:10
Yeah,
42:11
because
42:11
we
42:11
write
42:12
the
42:12
book,
42:12
but
42:13
it's.
42:13
It
42:13
is
42:14
a
42:14
full
42:14
blown
42:15
team
42:15
effort
42:15
to
42:16
get
42:16
them
42:17
huge.
42:18
Tell
42:18
us
42:19
the
42:19
biggest
42:20
change
42:21
now
42:21
that
42:22
you've
42:22
gone
42:22
to
42:22
a
42:22
hybrid
42:23
publishing.
42:24
Would
42:24
you
42:25
do
42:25
the
42:25
complete
42:26
thing
42:26
again
42:26
or
42:27
would
42:27
you,
42:27
on
42:27
your
42:27
next
42:28
book,
42:28
would
42:28
you
42:28
do
42:28
something
42:29
a
42:29
little
42:29
bit
42:29
different
42:30
from
42:30
what
42:31
you
42:31
did
42:31
with
42:31
your
42:31
second
42:32
book?
42:32
When
42:33
you
42:33
do
42:33
the
42:33
hybrid
42:34
publishing,
42:34
there
42:34
is
42:34
a
42:34
cost
42:35
involved.
42:36
So
42:37
I
42:37
think
42:37
with
42:37
this
42:38
being
42:38
having
42:39
done
42:39
two
42:39
books
42:40
and
42:40
having
42:41
a
42:41
good
42:41
feel
42:41
for
42:41
the
42:41
roadmap,
42:42
I
42:42
think
42:42
the
42:42
next
42:43
time
42:43
I
42:44
would
42:44
probably
42:44
do
42:44
self
42:45
publishing
42:45
again.
42:45
I'm
42:46
not
42:46
sure
42:46
that
42:46
I
42:46
would
42:47
use
42:47
a
42:48
hybrid
42:48
publisher.
42:48
I
42:48
would
42:48
love
42:49
for
42:49
a
42:49
publishing
42:50
company
42:50
or
42:50
somebody
42:51
to
42:51
find
42:51
me.
42:52
Right.
42:52
Chris,
42:53
if
42:53
you're
42:53
listening
42:54
and
42:54
just
42:54
coming
42:54
and
42:55
go,
42:55
where
42:55
have
42:55
you
42:55
been
42:55
all
42:56
our
42:56
lives?
42:57
But
42:58
I
42:58
did
42:58
take
42:58
Miriam
42:59
class
42:59
and
43:00
so
43:00
I
43:00
have
43:00
a
43:00
lot
43:00
of
43:01
the
43:01
modules
43:01
and
43:01
I
43:02
have
43:02
the
43:02
tools
43:02
and
43:03
the
43:03
worksheets.
43:04
So
43:04
I
43:04
think
43:05
bug
43:05
lightful
43:05
discovery
43:06
was
43:06
really
43:06
good
43:06
for
43:07
me
43:07
because
43:07
it
43:07
really.
43:07
As
43:08
you
43:08
read
43:09
with
43:09
Clark,
43:09
I
43:09
had
43:09
a
43:10
lot
43:10
of
43:10
words
43:10
in
43:10
there,
43:11
so
43:11
I
43:11
have
43:11
a
43:12
better
43:12
feel
43:12
and
43:12
a
43:13
flow
43:13
for
43:13
what
43:13
the
43:14
next
43:14
children's
43:15
book,
43:15
how
43:15
it
43:15
would
43:16
work.
43:16
But
43:17
what
43:17
you're
43:17
going
43:17
back
43:18
to,
43:18
what
43:18
you're
43:18
talking
43:18
about,
43:19
just
43:19
finding
43:20
the.
43:20
If
43:20
you
43:20
can
43:20
get
43:21
the
43:21
right
43:21
team
43:22
around
43:22
you,
43:22
if
43:22
you've
43:22
got
43:23
a
43:23
somebody
43:23
that
43:23
can
43:24
help
43:24
design
43:24
the
43:25
book.
43:25
And
43:25
there's
43:26
some
43:26
really
43:26
good
43:26
editors.
43:27
The
43:27
editor
43:27
I
43:27
used
43:27
for
43:27
Clark
43:28
was
43:28
really
43:28
good,
43:28
and
43:29
he
43:29
was
43:29
inexpensive.
43:30
But
43:30
all
43:31
those
43:31
little
43:31
components
43:32
add
43:32
up
43:32
to
43:32
themselves
43:33
as
43:33
well.
43:34
And
43:34
that's
43:34
what
43:34
I've
43:35
said
43:35
on
43:35
the
43:35
show
43:35
before.
43:36
The
43:36
nice
43:36
thing
43:36
about
43:37
a
43:37
children's
43:37
book,
43:37
it's
43:38
usually
43:38
between
43:38
about
43:39
500
43:40
and
43:40
1,000
43:41
words.
43:41
And
43:42
you've
43:42
got
43:42
a
43:42
little
43:42
bit
43:43
of
43:43
a
43:43
spectrum
43:43
in
43:43
there.
43:44
But
43:44
most
43:45
editors
43:45
charge
43:46
you
43:46
by
43:46
the.
43:47
Some
43:47
charge
43:48
you
43:48
by
43:48
the
43:48
word
43:48
500
43:49
to
43:49
1000
43:50
words
43:50
doesn't
43:50
cost
43:51
you
43:51
much
43:51
to
43:51
get
43:51
edited.
43:52
The
43:52
trick
43:53
is
43:53
to.
43:53
Your
43:53
point
43:54
is
43:54
to
43:55
find
43:55
someone
43:56
who
43:57
also
43:57
understands
43:58
that
43:58
it's
43:59
a
43:59
children's
43:59
book
44:00
and
44:00
that
44:01
sometimes,
44:02
and
44:02
I
44:02
don't
44:02
want
44:03
to
44:03
make
44:03
this
44:03
sound
44:04
negative,
44:04
but
44:05
you
44:05
have
44:05
to
44:05
dumb
44:06
down
44:06
the
44:06
language.
44:07
And
44:08
I'll
44:09
give
44:09
you
44:09
a
44:09
prime
44:09
example.
44:10
I've
44:10
used
44:10
my
44:10
grandchildren
44:11
as
44:12
my
44:12
editors
44:13
because
44:13
they've
44:13
said
44:14
to
44:14
me,
44:14
papa,
44:16
these
44:16
words
44:16
are
44:17
too
44:17
difficult.
44:18
Oh,
44:18
good
44:18
for
44:19
them.
44:19
Yep.
44:19
And
44:20
so
44:20
I've
44:20
said,
44:20
what
44:20
word
44:21
would
44:21
you
44:21
suggest?
44:22
And
44:22
they've.
44:22
They've
44:23
helped
44:23
me
44:23
with
44:24
words
44:24
that.
44:25
Awesome.
44:26
Yeah,
44:26
I
44:26
mentioned
44:27
that.
44:27
So
44:27
people
44:27
realize
44:28
that
44:29
your
44:29
resource
44:29
could
44:30
be
44:30
the
44:30
child
44:30
next
44:31
door
44:31
or
44:31
your
44:32
grandchildren,
44:33
or
44:33
if
44:34
you
44:34
go
44:34
and
44:34
do
44:34
a
44:34
book
44:35
reading
44:35
and
44:35
you
44:35
have
44:36
an
44:36
idea
44:37
that
44:37
take
44:38
your
44:38
draft
44:38
with
44:39
you
44:39
and
44:39
read
44:40
it
44:40
to
44:40
a
44:40
bigger
44:40
audience,
44:41
there's
44:41
all
44:42
kinds
44:42
of
44:42
opportunities
44:43
to
44:44
help
44:44
you
44:45
create
44:45
that.
44:46
The
44:46
right
44:46
words
44:46
for
44:47
children.
44:48
Yeah,
44:49
exactly.
44:49
And
44:49
even
44:49
just
44:50
the
44:50
book
44:50
cover.
44:50
Right.
44:50
You
44:51
can
44:51
come
44:51
up
44:51
with
44:51
a
44:51
couple
44:51
of
44:52
ideas
44:53
and
44:53
then
44:53
show
44:53
them
44:54
to
44:54
children
44:54
and
44:54
your
44:55
grandchildren
44:55
and
44:55
say
44:56
which
44:56
one
44:56
appeals
44:57
to
44:57
you?
44:57
Because
44:58
even
44:58
though
44:59
they
44:59
may
44:59
not
44:59
buy
44:59
the
45:00
book,
45:00
they
45:00
could
45:00
be
45:00
in
45:00
the
45:00
bookstore
45:01
with
45:01
their
45:01
parents
45:01
and
45:02
that
45:02
could
45:02
just
45:02
be
45:02
the
45:03
COVID
45:03
that
45:03
they're
45:03
like,
45:03
oh,
45:04
my
45:04
gosh,
45:04
that
45:04
is
45:04
a
45:05
dinosaur
45:05
and
45:05
I
45:05
meet
45:06
it.
45:06
Now,
45:07
tell
45:07
us
45:07
a
45:07
little
45:08
bit
45:08
about.
45:08
I
45:08
know
45:08
you
45:09
said
45:09
you
45:09
chose
45:09
your
45:10
illustrators.
45:11
I
45:11
believe
45:11
you
45:11
used
45:12
two
45:12
different
45:12
illustrators.
45:13
Different
45:14
ones,
45:14
yes.
45:14
Give
45:15
us
45:15
a
45:15
little
45:15
insight
45:16
into
45:16
that,
45:16
why
45:17
you've
45:17
used
45:18
different
45:18
illustrators.
45:19
With
45:20
the
45:20
Clark
45:20
book,
45:21
I
45:21
chose
45:22
an
45:22
incredible
45:22
illustrator
45:23
in
45:23
Kelly
45:23
Halpin,
45:24
and
45:25
she
45:25
actually
45:25
lives
45:25
in
45:26
Jackson,
45:26
Wyoming,
45:27
which
45:27
is
45:27
where
45:27
my
45:27
summer
45:28
cabin
45:28
is
45:29
at.
45:29
And
45:30
with
45:30
that
45:30
book,
45:31
because
45:31
it
45:32
was
45:32
so
45:32
near
45:32
and
45:32
dear
45:32
to
45:33
my
45:33
heart,
45:33
I
45:33
wanted
45:33
to
45:33
get
45:34
to
45:34
know
45:34
my
45:34
illustrator.
45:35
That
45:35
was
45:35
really
45:36
important
45:36
to
45:36
me.
45:36
I
45:36
wanted
45:37
face
45:38
to
45:38
face,
45:38
I
45:38
wanted
45:39
dialogues,
45:39
I
45:40
wanted
45:40
all
45:41
of
45:41
that
45:41
Because
45:41
I
45:41
was
45:42
spending
45:42
the
45:42
summer
45:42
out
45:43
there,
45:43
and
45:43
that
45:43
was
45:43
the
45:44
time
45:44
I
45:44
was
45:44
in
45:44
the
45:45
mode
45:45
for
45:45
the
45:45
illustrations.
45:47
We
45:47
were
45:47
able
45:47
to
45:47
meet
45:48
and
45:48
talk
45:49
and
45:49
get
45:49
to
45:49
know
45:49
each
45:49
other.
45:50
And
45:50
I
45:50
just.
45:50
I
45:51
just
45:51
felt
45:51
that
45:51
helped
45:52
with
45:52
the
45:52
book.
45:53
It
45:53
helped
45:53
bring
45:53
the
45:54
book
45:54
more
45:54
to
45:54
life
45:55
when
45:55
I
45:55
did
45:56
Light
45:56
Full
45:56
Discovery.
45:57
There
45:57
are
45:57
different
45:58
agencies
45:59
out
45:59
there
45:59
that
45:59
you
45:59
can
46:00
reach
46:00
out
46:00
to.
46:00
Like
46:00
Advocacy
46:01
Art
46:01
is
46:02
one
46:02
where
46:03
it's
46:03
an
46:03
organization
46:04
that
46:04
supports
46:05
all
46:05
these
46:06
different
46:06
illustrators,
46:07
and
46:08
you
46:08
can
46:08
pick
46:08
your
46:09
style
46:09
or
46:09
your
46:09
design,
46:10
and
46:10
then
46:10
you
46:10
can
46:11
pick
46:11
from
46:11
all
46:11
these
46:11
different
46:12
illustrators.
46:13
So
46:13
I
46:14
went
46:14
that
46:14
route.
46:15
She
46:15
didn't
46:15
come
46:15
from
46:16
Advocacy
46:16
Art.
46:17
She
46:17
came
46:17
from
46:17
a
46:17
different
46:17
place,
46:18
but
46:18
she
46:18
also
46:18
was
46:19
from
46:19
England,
46:19
which
46:19
was
46:20
interesting.
46:21
And
46:21
Luella
46:22
Jane
46:22
Wright
46:23
is
46:23
who
46:23
did
46:24
a
46:24
Bug
46:24
Lightful
46:24
Discovery
46:25
for
46:25
me.
46:26
And
46:26
I
46:26
chose
46:27
her
46:27
because
46:27
I
46:27
loved
46:28
how
46:28
she
46:28
did
46:29
the
46:29
people.
46:30
Yes.
46:31
And
46:31
she
46:31
was
46:31
very
46:32
colorful,
46:32
very
46:33
bright,
46:33
full
46:33
of
46:33
life.
46:34
But
46:34
it
46:34
was
46:35
interesting.
46:35
I
46:36
didn't
46:36
think
46:36
there
46:36
was
46:36
a
46:37
huge
46:37
difference
46:37
between
46:38
England
46:38
and
46:38
America.
46:39
And
46:40
she
46:40
had
46:40
never
46:40
really
46:41
traveled
46:41
to
46:41
America,
46:42
so
46:42
she
46:42
didn't
46:43
really
46:44
know
46:44
right
46:44
off
46:44
the
46:45
bat
46:45
what
46:46
the
46:46
Wild
46:46
west
46:47
was
46:47
mistaked
46:48
in
46:48
Wyoming.
46:49
She
46:49
didn't
46:49
understand
46:50
our
46:50
mountains
46:51
and
46:51
cabins.
46:51
When
46:51
I
46:52
told
46:52
her
46:52
I
46:52
live
46:52
in
46:52
a
46:52
cabin,
46:53
I
46:53
don't
46:53
know
46:54
what
46:54
she
46:54
was
46:54
thinking,
46:54
but
46:55
she
46:55
was
46:55
so
46:55
cute.
46:55
She's
46:55
like,
46:55
so
46:56
you
46:56
people
46:56
in
46:56
the
46:56
United
46:56
States
46:57
actually
46:57
think.
46:58
Did
46:59
you
46:59
tell
46:59
her
46:59
you
46:59
said,
47:00
my
47:00
Canadian
47:01
neighbors,
47:01
because
47:01
they
47:01
live
47:02
in
47:02
igloos?
47:04
I
47:04
was
47:04
like.
47:05
And
47:05
she
47:05
came
47:06
through
47:06
an
47:06
agent
47:06
as
47:07
well,
47:07
but
47:07
the
47:07
agent
47:07
lived
47:08
in
47:08
the
47:08
East
47:08
Coast.
47:08
I'm
47:08
like,
47:09
the
47:09
Poconos.
47:09
Right?
47:10
And
47:10
she's,
47:10
oh,
47:10
okay.
47:11
I'm
47:11
like,
47:11
not
47:11
running
47:11
water
47:12
and
47:12
electricity.
47:12
It's
47:13
not.
47:13
But
47:13
anyway,
47:14
that
47:14
just
47:14
cracked
47:14
me
47:14
up.
47:15
So
47:15
there
47:15
was
47:15
a
47:15
little
47:15
bit
47:15
of
47:15
a
47:15
learning
47:16
curve
47:16
there.
47:16
Yet
47:17
the
47:17
look
47:18
and
47:18
feel
47:19
of
47:19
the
47:19
west.
47:20
It's
47:20
interesting
47:20
you
47:20
should
47:21
say
47:21
that,
47:21
because,
47:22
believe
47:22
it
47:23
or
47:23
not,
47:23
I
47:23
tried
47:24
to
47:24
source
47:24
an
47:25
illustrator
47:25
locally,
47:26
but
47:26
I
47:26
couldn't
47:26
find
47:27
one
47:27
that,
47:27
to
47:28
your
47:28
point,
47:29
it
47:29
gave
47:29
me
47:29
the
47:30
feel
47:30
that
47:30
I
47:30
was
47:31
looking
47:31
for.
47:32
And
47:32
so
47:32
we
47:33
end
47:33
up
47:33
with
47:33
an
47:33
illustrator
47:34
from
47:34
England
47:35
also.
47:35
Oh,
47:36
no
47:36
kidding.
47:37
Again,
47:37
when
47:37
I
47:38
had
47:38
him
47:38
in
47:39
one
47:39
of
47:39
the
47:39
scenes,
47:40
he
47:40
has
47:40
to
47:40
draw
47:41
some
47:41
teepees.
47:43
And
47:43
of
47:44
course,
47:44
we
47:45
live
47:45
in
47:45
the
47:45
Rockies,
47:46
so
47:46
teepees
47:47
are
47:47
not
47:47
made
47:47
of
47:48
straw.
47:48
And
47:48
he
47:49
drew
47:49
all
47:49
the
47:49
teepees
47:50
made
47:50
of
47:50
straw.
47:51
And
47:51
I
47:52
had
47:52
to
47:52
explain,
47:52
I
47:53
had
47:53
to
47:53
actually
47:53
send
47:54
them
47:54
pictures
47:55
that
47:55
teepees
47:56
are
47:56
made
47:56
of
47:56
canvas
47:57
because
47:57
you're
47:57
in.
47:58
You're
47:58
in
47:58
the.
47:59
You're
47:59
out
47:59
in
47:59
the
48:00
open,
48:00
and
48:00
it
48:00
gets
48:01
a
48:01
little
48:01
cold.
48:01
Quite
48:02
interesting.
48:02
So,
48:03
like
48:03
you
48:03
said,
48:03
what
48:04
over
48:04
the
48:04
years,
48:05
Sending
48:05
him
48:06
pictures
48:06
and
48:07
all
48:07
of
48:08
that.
48:08
Being
48:08
able
48:08
to,
48:09
like,
48:09
you
48:10
have.
48:10
Being
48:10
able
48:10
to
48:10
get
48:11
that
48:11
look
48:12
that
48:12
we
48:12
were
48:12
trying
48:12
to
48:13
capture.
48:13
Yes.
48:14
And
48:14
thank
48:14
goodness
48:14
again
48:15
for
48:15
technology,
48:15
because
48:16
you
48:16
can
48:17
tap
48:17
all
48:18
these
48:18
incredible
48:19
resources
48:19
anywhere
48:20
in
48:20
the
48:20
world
48:20
and
48:21
talent
48:22
all
48:22
around
48:22
us,
48:23
for
48:23
sure.
48:24
So
48:24
talk
48:25
to
48:25
us
48:25
about
48:25
a
48:26
delightful
48:27
discovery.
48:27
Talk
48:28
to
48:28
us
48:28
about
48:28
your
48:28
main
48:29
character.
48:30
Oh,
48:30
so
48:30
Amelia.
48:31
Amelia
48:32
is
48:32
a
48:32
character.
48:33
Yes.
48:34
And
48:34
at
48:35
the
48:35
time,
48:35
she
48:35
was
48:35
seven
48:35
years
48:36
old.
48:36
And
48:36
she
48:37
is
48:37
a
48:37
granddaughter
48:38
of
48:38
one
48:38
of
48:38
my
48:38
neighbors
48:39
out
48:39
there
48:39
by
48:39
our
48:40
cabins.
48:40
And
48:40
she
48:40
lives
48:41
in
48:41
Kentucky.
48:42
Okay.
48:42
And
48:43
she
48:43
is
48:43
the
48:43
youngest
48:44
out
48:44
of
48:44
four.
48:45
And
48:45
is
48:45
her
48:45
real
48:46
name
48:46
Amelia?
48:47
And
48:47
her
48:47
real
48:47
name
48:47
is
48:48
Amelia.
48:48
And
48:48
so
48:49
when
48:49
I
48:49
did
48:49
do,
48:50
she
48:50
inspired
48:51
the
48:51
story.
48:51
Everything
48:52
of
48:52
the
48:52
way
48:52
the
48:53
story
48:53
unfold
48:54
I
48:55
created.
48:55
So
48:55
I
48:56
really
48:56
didn't
48:56
know
48:56
at
48:57
the
48:57
time
48:57
how
48:57
Emelia
48:58
really
48:58
felt
48:58
about
48:59
bugs.
48:59
She
48:59
liked
49:00
them,
49:00
didn't
49:00
like
49:00
them.
49:00
Just
49:01
doesn't
49:01
like
49:01
Beetle.
49:02
But
49:02
her
49:03
mom
49:03
and
49:03
dad
49:04
gave
49:04
me
49:04
carte
49:04
blanche
49:05
and
49:05
I
49:05
said,
49:05
I
49:06
will
49:06
disguise
49:06
their
49:07
names
49:07
to
49:07
protect
49:08
the
49:08
innocent.
49:08
And
49:08
they're
49:08
like,
49:09
no,
49:09
you
49:09
can
49:09
use
49:10
their
49:10
names.
49:11
So
49:11
what
49:11
was
49:11
really
49:12
fun
49:12
was
49:12
so,
49:12
yes,
49:13
I
49:13
used
49:13
the
49:13
names.
49:13
I
49:13
ended
49:14
up
49:14
putting
49:14
all
49:14
her
49:14
siblings
49:15
in
49:15
the
49:15
book
49:16
because
49:17
I
49:17
know
49:17
what
49:17
it's
49:17
like
49:18
with
49:18
siblings.
49:18
I
49:18
come
49:19
from
49:19
a
49:19
family
49:19
of
49:19
six
49:20
kids,
49:20
so
49:20
I
49:20
was
49:20
like,
49:21
you
49:21
can't
49:21
leave
49:21
out
49:22
one
49:22
child.
49:23
And
49:23
I
49:23
have
49:23
all
49:24
the
49:24
books.
49:24
So
49:24
even
49:24
though
49:25
it
49:25
is
49:25
with
49:25
all
49:25
her
49:26
sisters,
49:27
she
49:27
has
49:27
a
49:27
brother.
49:28
And
49:28
I'm
49:28
like,
49:28
I
49:28
gotta
49:28
get
49:29
Jenkins
49:29
in
49:29
there.
49:29
So
49:30
I
49:30
don't
49:31
want
49:31
him
49:31
to
49:31
feel
49:31
left
49:32
out.
49:32
And
49:32
the
49:32
mom.
49:33
Thank
49:33
you.
49:34
Good
49:34
for
49:34
you.
49:35
It's
49:35
interesting
49:36
because
49:36
I
49:36
think
49:37
I
49:37
told
49:37
you
49:38
with
49:38
Clark
49:38
the
49:39
Mountain
49:39
Beaver.
49:40
And
49:40
of
49:40
course,
49:40
our
49:40
next
49:40
book
49:41
coming
49:41
out
49:41
is
49:41
called
49:42
hi
49:42
Jinx
49:43
from
49:43
the
49:43
Big
49:43
Head
49:44
Folk
49:44
Music
49:45
Festival.
49:46
This
49:46
is
49:46
the
49:47
folks.
49:47
You
49:47
can't
49:47
see
49:47
this,
49:48
of
49:48
course,
49:48
but
49:49
this
49:49
is
49:49
the
49:50
book
49:50
cover
49:50
coming
49:50
out.
49:51
There's
49:51
Bailey
49:52
the
49:52
Beaver.
49:53
And
49:54
of
49:54
course,
49:54
what
49:54
I
49:55
consider
49:55
a
49:56
cover.
49:57
Bailey
49:58
is
49:58
actually
49:58
my
49:59
middle
50:00
granddaughter's
50:01
name.
50:02
Yeah.
50:03
Nice
50:03
to
50:03
your
50:04
point.
50:04
We've
50:05
actually
50:05
had
50:05
to
50:05
write
50:06
some
50:07
of
50:07
our
50:07
stories,
50:08
include
50:08
all
50:09
of
50:09
our
50:09
grandchildren
50:10
are
50:11
actually
50:12
eventually
50:13
going
50:13
to
50:13
be
50:13
characters
50:14
in.
50:15
In
50:16
our
50:16
children's
50:16
books
50:17
because
50:17
our
50:17
third
50:18
book
50:18
that
50:18
we
50:18
have
50:19
is
50:19
called
50:20
the
50:20
Mounties
50:21
Get
50:21
Their
50:21
Girl.
50:22
Oh,
50:23
yes.
50:24
I
50:24
like
50:24
it.
50:24
And
50:25
the.
50:25
The
50:26
girl
50:26
is
50:26
actually
50:27
our
50:27
youngest
50:28
granddaughter.
50:29
She'll
50:30
become
50:30
a
50:30
character
50:30
in
50:30
the
50:31
book.
50:32
Yeah.
50:32
And
50:32
how
50:32
old
50:33
is
50:33
your
50:33
youngest
50:33
granddaughter?
50:34
Oh,
50:35
now
50:35
she's
50:36
12.
50:37
Oh,
50:38
wow.
50:38
Oh,
50:39
we
50:39
did
50:39
actually,
50:39
the
50:40
inspiration
50:41
came
50:41
when
50:41
she
50:41
was
50:42
nine
50:43
months
50:43
old,
50:43
to
50:44
your
50:44
point.
50:44
It's
50:45
funny
50:45
how
50:46
I
50:46
just
50:46
knew.
50:47
We
50:47
actually
50:48
took
50:49
a
50:49
photograph
50:49
of
50:50
her
50:50
when
50:50
she
50:50
was
50:50
about
50:51
9
50:51
or
50:51
10
50:51
months
50:51
old.
50:52
And
50:53
at
50:53
the
50:53
time,
50:53
we
50:53
were
50:54
in
50:54
the
50:54
Rocky
50:54
Mountains,
50:54
and
50:55
they
50:55
were
50:55
having
50:56
an
50:56
RCMP
50:57
day
50:57
where
50:58
they
50:58
were
50:58
celebrating
50:59
the
50:59
Royal
50:59
Canadian
50:59
Mounted
51:00
Police.
51:01
And
51:01
they
51:01
had
51:02
an
51:02
old
51:02
covered
51:02
wagon
51:03
from
51:03
the
51:03
1800s,
51:05
and
51:05
they
51:05
actually
51:06
had.
51:07
The
51:07
RCMP
51:08
used
51:08
to
51:08
be
51:08
called
51:09
the
51:09
Northwest
51:09
Mounted
51:10
Police.
51:11
And
51:11
so
51:11
they
51:12
had
51:12
a
51:12
little
51:13
different
51:13
uniform.
51:14
So
51:14
one
51:14
of
51:15
the
51:15
Mounties
51:16
dressed
51:16
up
51:17
like
51:17
in
51:17
the
51:18
1890s,
51:19
and
51:19
the
51:19
other
51:20
Mountie
51:20
dressed
51:21
up
51:21
like
51:21
you
51:21
would
51:21
see
51:22
them
51:22
today
51:22
with
51:22
the
51:23
stets.
51:23
And
51:24
we
51:24
got
51:24
a
51:24
picture
51:25
of
51:25
my
51:26
youngest
51:27
granddaughter.
51:27
One
51:28
of
51:28
them.
51:28
She's
51:29
in
51:29
between
51:29
the
51:29
two
51:30
Mounties.
51:30
One
51:30
of
51:30
the
51:30
Mounties
51:31
is
51:31
holding
51:31
her,
51:32
and
51:32
there's
51:33
a
51:33
covered
51:33
wagon
51:34
in
51:34
behind.
51:34
So
51:35
that
51:35
inspired
51:36
an
51:36
incredible.
51:38
Yeah,
51:39
absolutely.
51:39
So
51:40
pretty
51:40
neat.
51:40
So,
51:41
again,
51:41
I
51:41
share
51:42
this
51:42
with
51:42
people
51:42
because
51:43
you
51:43
can
51:43
see
51:43
how
51:44
Karen
51:44
and
51:44
I
51:44
are
51:45
getting
51:45
excited
51:46
about
51:46
how
51:47
just
51:47
being
51:47
around
51:48
your
51:48
neighbor's
51:49
kids
51:49
and
51:50
their
51:50
siblings
51:51
or
51:51
your
51:52
grandchildren,
51:53
it's
51:53
incredible
51:54
what
51:54
happens
51:55
and
51:55
the
51:55
things
51:55
that
51:55
can
51:56
just
51:56
come
51:56
up
51:56
into
51:57
your
51:57
mind
51:58
now.
51:59
Also,
51:59
I'm
51:59
interested
52:00
a
52:00
little
52:00
bit
52:00
about
52:01
Clark
52:02
and
52:02
because
52:03
you
52:03
talked
52:03
a
52:03
bit
52:04
about
52:04
Clark
52:05
and
52:06
the
52:07
story
52:07
revolves
52:08
around
52:09
Clark
52:09
and
52:10
his
52:10
interactions
52:11
with
52:11
other
52:11
animals.
52:12
And
52:12
I
52:12
know
52:12
you
52:12
mentioned.
52:13
Really?
52:14
That
52:14
was
52:14
you.
52:15
We're
52:15
living
52:16
through
52:16
Clark.
52:17
Can
52:17
you
52:17
expand
52:18
a
52:18
little
52:18
bit
52:18
more
52:19
on
52:19
that?
52:20
So
52:20
the
52:20
premise
52:21
behind
52:21
Clark
52:22
is
52:22
about
52:22
embracing
52:23
your
52:23
uniqueness.
52:24
These
52:24
are
52:24
some
52:24
of
52:24
his
52:24
notes.
52:25
Teaches
52:25
you
52:25
about
52:26
friendship,
52:27
Embracing
52:27
your
52:27
uniqueness.
52:28
It's
52:28
okay
52:29
to
52:29
be
52:30
different.
52:31
And
52:31
when
52:31
one
52:32
of
52:32
my
52:32
friends
52:32
that
52:32
I've
52:33
known
52:33
most
52:33
of
52:34
my
52:34
life
52:34
read
52:34
it,
52:35
she's,
52:35
oh,
52:35
my
52:35
gosh,
52:35
he
52:35
wrote
52:36
a
52:36
book
52:36
about
52:36
you.
52:36
And
52:37
I'm
52:37
like,
52:37
I.
52:39
I'm
52:39
gonna
52:39
reread
52:40
it.
52:41
Yeah.
52:41
So
52:41
Clark.
52:42
Yeah.
52:42
So
52:42
he
52:42
goes
52:43
around
52:43
the
52:43
yard
52:43
and
52:43
he
52:43
meets
52:44
these
52:44
other
52:44
amazing
52:44
animals,
52:45
right?
52:45
Which
52:46
squirrels,
52:46
deer,
52:47
eagles,
52:48
and
52:49
what?
52:50
Again,
52:51
the
52:51
premise
52:51
of
52:51
the
52:51
book
52:52
is
52:52
it's
52:52
okay
52:52
to
52:53
be
52:53
different
52:53
because
52:53
he
52:54
doesn't
52:54
feel
52:54
like
52:54
he
52:55
fits
52:55
in.
52:55
Nobody
52:56
knows
52:56
who
52:56
he.
52:57
He's
52:57
always
52:57
confused
52:57
with
52:58
the
52:58
real
52:58
beaver.
52:59
And
53:00
so
53:00
they,
53:01
in
53:01
return,
53:02
give
53:02
him
53:03
confidence
53:04
and
53:04
embrace
53:05
his
53:05
uniqueness.
53:06
That
53:06
just
53:06
because
53:06
you're
53:07
different
53:07
doesn't
53:07
mean
53:07
there's
53:08
anything
53:08
wrong
53:08
with
53:08
you.
53:09
We
53:09
can't
53:09
do
53:09
what
53:09
you
53:10
can't.
53:10
We
53:10
can't
53:10
dig
53:10
like
53:11
you
53:11
can
53:11
dig,
53:11
but
53:12
you
53:12
can't
53:12
climb
53:12
like
53:13
us.
53:13
That's
53:13
okay.
53:14
But
53:14
we
53:14
can
53:14
still
53:14
be
53:15
friends.
53:15
Right?
53:15
And
53:16
I
53:16
don't
53:16
know,
53:16
at
53:16
that
53:17
time,
53:17
I
53:17
just
53:17
felt
53:18
again
53:18
with
53:18
that
53:18
nature
53:19
deficit
53:19
disorder
53:20
that
53:20
was
53:20
supposedly
53:21
on
53:21
the
53:21
rise
53:22
and
53:22
all
53:22
of
53:22
this.
53:22
And
53:23
I
53:23
think
53:24
today
53:24
it's
53:24
probably
53:25
even
53:25
more
53:25
prevalent
53:26
that
53:26
it's
53:27
okay
53:27
to
53:27
be
53:27
different.
53:28
We
53:28
can
53:28
be
53:28
different.
53:28
And
53:29
we
53:29
can
53:29
still
53:29
be
53:29
friends.
53:30
We
53:30
can
53:30
learn
53:31
from
53:31
each
53:31
other.
53:32
We
53:32
can
53:32
help
53:33
you
53:33
grow
53:34
as
53:34
a
53:34
person.
53:35
Absolutely.
53:36
You've
53:36
got
53:36
your
53:36
own
53:37
skills
53:37
and
53:37
talents
53:38
and
53:38
I
53:38
can
53:39
learn
53:39
from
53:39
you
53:39
and
53:39
you
53:39
can
53:40
learn
53:40
from
53:40
me.
53:40
And
53:41
that's
53:41
what
53:42
I
53:42
hope.
53:42
And
53:42
I
53:43
want
53:43
to
53:43
dig
53:43
a
53:43
little
53:43
bit
53:44
deeper
53:44
on
53:44
that
53:45
in
53:45
your
53:46
theme
53:46
because
53:46
like
53:47
I
53:47
said,
53:47
I
53:47
just
53:47
love
53:48
your
53:48
theme.
53:48
Connecting
53:49
the
53:49
young
53:50
and
53:50
the
53:50
young
53:50
at
53:50
heart
53:51
with
53:51
the
53:51
wonders
53:51
of
53:52
nature.
53:52
So
53:53
now
53:53
did
53:54
that
53:54
come
53:55
as
53:55
a
53:55
result
53:55
of
53:56
you
53:56
working
53:57
on
53:58
a
53:58
bug
53:59
lightful
53:59
discovery
54:01
or
54:01
did
54:01
you
54:01
have
54:02
that
54:02
from
54:03
Clark
54:03
days?
54:04
I
54:04
think
54:05
came
54:05
probably
54:05
from
54:05
the
54:06
Clark
54:06
days
54:06
because
54:06
again,
54:07
at
54:07
the
54:07
time
54:07
when
54:08
I
54:08
discovered
54:08
Clark,
54:08
I
54:09
was
54:09
in
54:09
my
54:09
50s
54:10
and
54:10
man,
54:11
I
54:11
don't
54:11
know
54:11
how
54:11
often
54:12
you
54:12
get
54:12
those
54:12
experiences.
54:13
You
54:13
get
54:13
a
54:13
little
54:13
bit
54:14
more
54:14
when
54:14
you've
54:14
got
54:14
grandchildren
54:15
around.
54:15
At
54:15
the
54:16
time
54:16
I
54:16
didn't
54:16
have
54:16
grandchildren,
54:17
but
54:18
just
54:18
that
54:19
experiencing
54:20
something
54:21
new
54:21
in
54:21
a
54:21
world
54:22
that
54:22
I
54:22
thought
54:23
I
54:23
knew
54:24
so
54:24
well.
54:25
And
54:26
it,
54:26
I,
54:26
you.
54:27
I
54:27
just
54:27
expanded
54:28
my
54:28
excitement.
54:29
It
54:29
just
54:30
took
54:30
me
54:30
to.
54:30
It
54:31
like
54:31
expanded
54:31
my
54:32
heart.
54:32
And
54:32
so
54:33
it
54:33
made
54:33
my
54:33
heart
54:33
feel
54:34
young
54:34
again.
54:34
Right.
54:35
Oh
54:35
my
54:35
gosh,
54:36
look
54:36
at.
54:36
I
54:36
didn't
54:36
even
54:37
know
54:37
that
54:37
animal.
54:37
And
54:37
then
54:38
if
54:38
that
54:38
animal
54:38
exists,
54:39
what
54:39
else
54:40
is
54:40
out
54:40
here
54:40
that
54:40
I
54:40
don't
54:41
know
54:42
different
54:42
when
54:43
it's
54:43
in
54:43
another
54:43
country
54:44
because
54:44
you
54:44
don't
54:44
have
54:45
that
54:45
exposure.
54:45
But
54:45
when
54:46
Clark
54:46
literally
54:47
lives
54:47
in
54:47
burrows,
54:48
he
54:48
literally
54:49
was
54:49
living
54:50
under
54:51
my
54:51
feet
54:52
for
54:52
years,
54:54
but
54:54
I
54:54
never
54:54
saw
54:55
him.
54:55
Well,
54:56
that
54:56
just
54:57
made
54:57
me
54:57
feel
54:57
young
54:57
at
54:58
heart.
54:58
And
54:58
that's.
54:59
That's
54:59
what
54:59
you
54:59
want.
55:00
That's
55:00
what
55:00
you
55:00
want
55:01
to
55:01
experience
55:01
at
55:02
least
55:02
once
55:03
a
55:03
day,
55:03
if
55:04
not
55:04
all
55:04
day
55:04
long.
55:05
Right?
55:05
Yes.
55:06
Good
55:06
for
55:06
you.
55:06
And
55:06
here
55:06
we
55:06
are
55:07
on
55:07
Earth
55:07
Day
55:08
and
55:08
another
55:09
beautiful
55:09
day
55:09
to
55:10
just.
55:10
Not
55:10
that
55:10
every
55:11
day
55:11
shouldn't
55:11
be
55:11
Earth
55:12
day,
55:12
but
55:13
it's
55:13
nice
55:13
to
55:13
have
55:14
those
55:14
reminders
55:15
of
55:15
just
55:15
stop,
55:16
be
55:16
in
55:16
the
55:16
moment,
55:17
find
55:18
something
55:18
that
55:19
lifts
55:19
your
55:19
spirit
55:20
and
55:20
expand
55:20
your
55:21
heart
55:21
and
55:21
just
55:22
embrace
55:22
it.
55:22
I'm
55:23
curious
55:23
in
55:24
your
55:24
writing
55:24
process.
55:26
So
55:26
talk
55:27
to
55:27
us
55:28
now.
55:28
Have
55:29
you
55:29
got
55:29
a
55:29
third
55:29
book
55:29
that
55:30
you're
55:30
working
55:30
on?
55:31
I
55:31
have
55:31
a
55:32
third
55:32
book
55:32
in
55:33
mind,
55:33
but
55:33
it's
55:33
not
55:33
necessarily
55:34
a
55:34
children's
55:35
book.
55:35
It
55:35
is
55:35
nature
55:36
related.
55:36
Explain
55:37
to
55:37
us
55:37
and
55:38
share
55:38
some
55:38
insights
55:39
into
55:39
the,
55:40
into
55:40
your
55:40
development
55:41
and
55:41
your
55:42
writing
55:42
process.
55:43
And
55:44
it
55:44
doesn't
55:44
have
55:44
to
55:44
be
55:45
particularly
55:46
in
55:47
the
55:47
area
55:47
of
55:47
children's
55:48
book
55:49
writing,
55:49
but
55:49
I'd
55:49
be
55:50
interested
55:50
in
55:50
that.
55:51
But
55:51
just
55:51
even
55:52
in
55:52
your
55:52
writing
55:53
process
55:53
so
55:54
people
55:54
understand
55:55
how
55:55
you
55:55
go
55:56
about
55:56
doing
55:56
that.
55:57
Yeah.
55:58
So
55:58
for
55:58
a
55:58
while
55:58
there
55:59
I
55:59
was
55:59
really
55:59
good
55:59
and
56:00
I
56:00
actually
56:00
got
56:00
up
56:00
early
56:01
in
56:01
the
56:01
morning
56:01
and
56:01
I
56:01
would
56:02
just
56:02
write.
56:02
I
56:02
just
56:03
made
56:03
it
56:03
a
56:03
point
56:03
to
56:04
write.
56:04
If
56:04
I
56:04
didn't
56:04
feel
56:05
inspired
56:05
by
56:06
anything,
56:06
I
56:06
just
56:07
picked
56:07
a
56:07
topic
56:08
and
56:08
just
56:09
start
56:09
writing.
56:09
And
56:09
I
56:10
just
56:10
do
56:10
these
56:10
in
56:10
notebooks
56:11
that
56:11
not
56:11
necessarily
56:12
going
56:12
to
56:12
share.
56:13
Life
56:13
has
56:13
gotten
56:14
a
56:14
little
56:14
busy.
56:15
I
56:15
haven't
56:16
been
56:16
as
56:17
focused
56:17
on
56:17
it,
56:17
which
56:18
I
56:18
would
56:18
like.
56:18
But
56:19
my
56:19
writing
56:19
comes
56:20
in
56:20
spurts.
56:20
I
56:21
can
56:21
be
56:22
sitting
56:22
outside
56:23
with
56:23
my
56:23
sitting
56:24
tree
56:25
and
56:25
I
56:25
can
56:25
just
56:26
hear
56:26
a
56:26
bird
56:26
or
56:26
something
56:27
and
56:27
I.
56:27
I
56:27
just
56:27
get
56:28
inspired.
56:28
And
56:29
so
56:29
I
56:29
usually
56:30
always
56:30
have
56:30
my
56:31
phone
56:31
near
56:31
me.
56:32
So
56:32
if
56:32
I
56:32
don't
56:32
have
56:32
a
56:33
pad
56:33
of
56:33
paper,
56:34
I
56:34
use
56:34
my
56:35
notes
56:35
in
56:35
my
56:35
phone.
56:36
And
56:36
even
56:36
if
56:36
it's
56:37
just
56:38
like
56:39
sometimes
56:39
you
56:39
just
56:40
come
56:40
up
56:40
with
56:40
this
56:40
really
56:41
fun
56:41
catchy
56:42
saying
56:42
or
56:43
you
56:43
feel
56:44
and
56:44
I
56:44
just
56:44
write
56:44
it
56:44
down.
56:45
But
56:45
I
56:46
do
56:46
want
56:46
to
56:46
get.
56:46
Do
56:47
want
56:47
to
56:47
get
56:47
back
56:48
more
56:48
into
56:48
a
56:48
rhythm
56:49
of
56:49
writing.
56:50
But
56:50
I
56:50
seem
56:50
to
56:51
go.
56:51
It
56:51
fluctuates.
56:52
There's
56:52
times
56:53
like
56:53
in
56:53
the
56:53
summer
56:53
I
56:54
write
56:54
a
56:54
lot
56:54
because
56:55
I'm
56:55
back
56:55
into
56:56
nature
56:56
and
56:56
I'm
56:56
away
56:57
from
56:58
phones,
56:59
constant
57:00
phones
57:00
and
57:00
all
57:00
of
57:01
that.
57:01
But
57:02
I
57:02
write
57:02
when
57:03
the
57:03
mood
57:03
hits
57:03
me
57:04
sometimes.
57:04
And
57:04
it
57:05
hits
57:05
you
57:05
sometimes.
57:06
It's
57:06
not
57:06
very
57:07
convenient
57:07
when
57:08
it
57:08
hits
57:08
you
57:08
and
57:08
it's
57:08
okay.
57:08
Excuse
57:09
me,
57:09
I'll
57:09
be
57:09
right
57:09
back.
57:09
But
57:10
I
57:10
gotta
57:10
write
57:10
this
57:11
down.
57:11
It's
57:12
interesting
57:12
to
57:12
me
57:12
because
57:13
I
57:13
always
57:13
ask
57:13
people
57:14
this
57:14
question.
57:14
I
57:15
say,
57:15
in
57:15
your
57:15
writing
57:16
process,
57:17
it
57:17
sounds
57:18
like
57:18
you're
57:18
drawing
57:18
from
57:19
your
57:19
personal
57:19
experiences,
57:21
but
57:21
are
57:22
you
57:22
conducting
57:23
any
57:23
additional
57:24
research?
57:25
And
57:26
it's
57:26
amazing
57:26
to
57:26
me
57:27
because
57:27
with
57:27
Clark
57:28
the
57:28
Mountain
57:28
Beaver,
57:29
you
57:30
dove
57:30
right
57:30
into
57:30
the
57:31
pool
57:32
in
57:32
the
57:32
deep
57:32
end.
57:33
That's
57:33
not
57:34
being
57:34
naive.
57:35
So
57:36
tell.
57:37
So
57:37
tell
57:37
us,
57:38
going
57:38
from
57:39
Clark
57:39
the
57:40
Mountain
57:40
Beaver,
57:40
where
57:41
you
57:41
definitely
57:42
did
57:42
lots
57:42
of
57:42
research,
57:43
to
57:44
a
57:44
bug
57:44
delightful
57:45
discovery.
57:47
Was
57:47
there
57:48
less
57:48
research
57:49
or
57:49
was
57:49
it
57:50
a
57:50
different
57:50
approach?
57:51
Tell
57:51
us
57:51
about
57:52
that.
57:52
It
57:52
was
57:53
different.
57:53
It
57:53
was
57:53
much
57:53
faster
57:54
with
57:54
the
57:54
bug.
57:54
Lightful
57:55
discovery.
57:55
Like
57:55
I
57:55
said,
57:55
Klarnk
57:56
took
57:56
about
57:56
four
57:56
years
57:57
because
57:57
it
57:57
did.
57:57
I
57:57
did
57:57
do
57:58
a
57:58
lot
57:58
of
57:58
research.
57:58
And
57:59
if
57:59
I'm
58:00
going
58:00
to
58:00
put
58:00
facts
58:00
in
58:01
the
58:01
book,
58:01
I
58:01
wanted
58:01
them
58:01
to
58:02
be
58:02
factual
58:03
about
58:03
Lewis
58:03
and
58:03
Clark
58:04
and
58:04
things
58:04
like
58:04
that.
58:05
The
58:05
delightful
58:06
discovery,
58:06
really
58:07
that
58:07
book
58:08
wrote
58:08
itself
58:09
so
58:09
fast
58:09
because
58:10
it
58:10
literally
58:10
was
58:11
that
58:11
experience
58:11
with
58:12
Amelia,
58:12
which
58:12
was
58:13
probably
58:13
30
58:13
seconds.
58:14
It
58:14
festered
58:15
in
58:15
my
58:15
mind
58:16
all
58:16
day
58:16
long.
58:17
And
58:17
I
58:17
then
58:17
when
58:18
I
58:18
made
58:18
the
58:18
decision
58:18
that,
58:19
yeah,
58:19
this
58:19
is
58:19
a
58:19
good
58:20
lesson
58:20
to
58:20
teach
58:20
kids,
58:21
I
58:22
just
58:22
sat
58:22
down
58:22
the
58:23
next
58:23
day
58:23
and
58:24
just
58:24
started
58:24
writing.
58:25
And
58:25
it
58:25
probably
58:26
took
58:27
a
58:27
few
58:27
weeks
58:27
maybe.
58:28
And
58:28
I
58:28
didn't
58:29
really
58:29
research
58:29
a
58:30
whole
58:30
lot
58:30
because
58:30
I.
58:31
The
58:31
things
58:31
I
58:31
put
58:31
in
58:31
the
58:32
book
58:32
are
58:32
things
58:32
that
58:32
I
58:32
knew.
58:33
I
58:33
knew
58:33
that
58:33
hummingbirds
58:34
used
58:34
spiderwebs
58:35
for
58:36
their
58:36
nests
58:36
And
58:37
I
58:37
tried
58:37
to
58:37
pick
58:37
the
58:38
things
58:38
that
58:38
I
58:38
thought
58:39
not
58:39
everybody
58:39
might
58:40
know,
58:40
but
58:40
are
58:40
really
58:41
super
58:41
cool,
58:41
interesting
58:42
about
58:42
nature.
58:43
So
58:44
that
58:44
book
58:44
really
58:45
flowed.
58:45
And
58:46
so
58:46
that
58:46
was,
58:47
like,
58:47
in
58:48
July
58:48
that
58:48
I
58:49
had
58:49
that
58:49
experience
58:49
with
58:50
her.
58:50
By
58:51
October,
58:51
I
58:51
was
58:52
already
58:52
signed
58:52
up
58:52
with
58:52
the
58:53
publishing
58:54
company
58:54
to
58:55
start
58:55
publishing
58:56
the
58:56
book.
58:56
So
58:56
when
58:56
I
58:56
went
58:57
into
58:57
that,
58:58
it
58:58
was.
58:58
The
58:58
story
58:58
was
58:59
pretty
58:59
much
58:59
already
58:59
written.
59:00
And
59:01
I
59:01
thought
59:01
it
59:01
was,
59:01
like,
59:02
perfect
59:03
until
59:05
the
59:05
editor
59:06
was
59:06
super
59:06
duper
59:07
cute.
59:07
Because,
59:07
again,
59:08
Emelia
59:08
is
59:08
quite
59:09
the
59:09
character.
59:09
She's
59:09
incredibly
59:10
spunky,
59:11
and
59:12
even
59:12
the
59:13
youngest
59:13
child,
59:13
she
59:14
gets
59:14
away
59:14
with
59:14
a
59:14
lot.
59:15
When
59:15
I
59:16
first
59:16
wrote
59:16
it,
59:17
the
59:17
editor
59:17
was
59:18
like,
59:18
she's
59:18
a
59:19
little
59:19
nasty,
59:19
don't
59:20
you
59:20
think,
59:21
on
59:21
everything.
59:22
And
59:22
I'm
59:22
like,
59:23
oh,
59:25
do
59:25
that.
59:26
But
59:26
I
59:26
was
59:26
like,
59:26
yeah,
59:27
I
59:27
don't
59:27
know
59:27
how
59:28
many
59:28
moms
59:28
would
59:28
want
59:29
to
59:29
pick.
59:29
Our
59:29
dads
59:30
would
59:30
want
59:30
to
59:30
pick
59:30
up
59:30
this
59:31
book
59:31
with
59:31
this
59:31
little
59:32
girl,
59:32
like,
59:32
killing
59:33
every
59:33
bug
59:33
and
59:34
down
59:35
a
59:35
little.
59:35
And
59:36
I'm
59:36
like,
59:36
oh,
59:37
good
59:37
point.
59:38
We
59:38
don't
59:38
want
59:39
get
59:39
that.
59:39
Because
59:39
I
59:39
look
59:40
at
59:40
books,
59:40
and
59:40
if
59:40
they're
59:40
too
59:41
mean,
59:41
I'm
59:41
like,
59:42
that's.
59:42
You
59:42
know,
59:43
isn't
59:44
like
59:44
that.
59:44
I
59:44
don't
59:44
want
59:45
to
59:45
let
59:45
my
59:45
grandchildren
59:46
learn
59:46
that
59:47
hard
59:47
enough.
59:48
So
59:48
I
59:48
tamed
59:49
it
59:49
down
59:49
a
59:49
lot.
59:49
So
59:50
the
59:50
editing
59:50
took
59:51
a
59:51
little
59:51
bit
59:51
longer,
59:51
but
59:52
they
59:52
were
59:52
all.
59:53
It
59:53
was
59:53
helpful.
59:53
And
59:54
the
59:54
beautiful
59:54
thing
59:54
with
59:54
editors
59:55
are
59:56
even
59:56
though
59:56
we
59:56
feel
59:57
we
59:57
give
59:57
it
59:57
to
59:57
them
59:58
like
59:58
this
59:58
pristine
59:59
little
59:59
package
1:00:00
and
1:00:00
everything
1:00:00
is
1:00:01
perfect,
1:00:02
having
1:00:02
their
1:00:03
insight
1:00:04
and
1:00:04
their
1:00:04
knowledge
1:00:05
from
1:00:05
the
1:00:06
children's
1:00:06
book
1:00:06
world.
1:00:07
Definitely
1:00:08
get
1:00:08
an
1:00:08
editor
1:00:08
that's
1:00:09
into
1:00:09
children's
1:00:09
book
1:00:10
if
1:00:10
they're
1:00:10
doing
1:00:10
a
1:00:10
children's
1:00:11
book,
1:00:11
because
1:00:12
they
1:00:12
just
1:00:12
bring
1:00:13
a
1:00:13
whole
1:00:14
new
1:00:15
level
1:00:15
of
1:00:16
understanding
1:00:16
to
1:00:17
it,
1:00:17
and
1:00:17
so
1:00:17
they
1:00:17
can
1:00:18
point
1:00:18
you
1:00:18
in
1:00:18
the
1:00:18
direction.
1:00:19
And
1:00:19
they
1:00:19
can.
1:00:20
And
1:00:20
a
1:00:20
good
1:00:21
editor
1:00:21
will
1:00:21
do
1:00:21
it
1:00:22
in
1:00:22
a.
1:00:23
An
1:00:23
uplifting
1:00:23
way
1:00:24
so
1:00:24
they
1:00:24
don't
1:00:24
shatter
1:00:25
you.
1:00:25
When
1:00:25
I
1:00:26
got
1:00:26
the
1:00:26
first
1:00:26
editing,
1:00:26
I'm
1:00:26
like,
1:00:27
okay,
1:00:27
I'm
1:00:27
gonna
1:00:28
need
1:00:28
a
1:00:28
day.
1:00:28
I
1:00:28
just
1:00:29
want
1:00:29
to
1:00:30
look
1:00:30
at
1:00:30
that
1:00:30
email
1:00:31
heading
1:00:31
and
1:00:31
think,
1:00:31
okay,
1:00:32
tomorrow
1:00:32
I'll
1:00:33
look
1:00:33
at
1:00:33
it.
1:00:33
So
1:00:34
I
1:00:34
prepared
1:00:35
myself,
1:00:35
and
1:00:35
it
1:00:36
wasn't
1:00:36
that
1:00:36
bad.
1:00:37
But,
1:00:37
yeah,
1:00:38
your
1:00:38
ego
1:00:38
does
1:00:39
get
1:00:39
a
1:00:39
little
1:00:39
bit
1:00:40
scratched.
1:00:40
Then
1:00:40
you
1:00:41
think,
1:00:41
okay,
1:00:41
she
1:00:42
knows
1:00:42
what
1:00:42
she's
1:00:42
talking
1:00:43
about.
1:00:43
Absolutely.
1:00:44
And
1:00:44
that's
1:00:44
why
1:00:44
we
1:00:44
were
1:00:45
talking
1:00:45
about
1:00:46
the
1:00:46
teams
1:00:46
earlier.
1:00:47
Your
1:00:47
dream
1:00:47
team
1:00:48
is.
1:00:49
You
1:00:49
know
1:00:49
what?
1:00:50
You
1:00:50
can
1:00:50
find
1:00:50
your
1:00:51
dream
1:00:51
team.
1:00:51
Someone
1:00:52
you
1:00:52
can
1:00:52
work
1:00:52
with
1:00:53
who
1:00:53
can,
1:00:53
like
1:00:54
you
1:00:54
just
1:00:54
said,
1:00:54
Karen,
1:00:55
inspire
1:00:56
you.
1:00:56
They're
1:00:57
motivational.
1:00:58
They're
1:00:58
not
1:00:58
there
1:00:58
to
1:00:59
tear
1:00:59
you
1:00:59
down.
1:01:00
They're
1:01:00
there
1:01:00
to
1:01:00
help
1:01:00
you
1:01:01
and
1:01:01
support
1:01:01
you.
1:01:02
Yeah.
1:01:02
Yeah.
1:01:02
And
1:01:02
if
1:01:03
you
1:01:03
are.
1:01:03
Have
1:01:03
people,
1:01:04
I
1:01:04
think
1:01:05
instinct
1:01:05
is
1:01:05
a
1:01:05
really
1:01:06
good
1:01:06
thing
1:01:06
to
1:01:06
go
1:01:06
on.
1:01:07
You
1:01:07
can
1:01:07
tell
1:01:07
pretty
1:01:07
quickly
1:01:08
when
1:01:08
you're
1:01:08
talking
1:01:08
with
1:01:09
somebody,
1:01:09
if
1:01:09
you're
1:01:10
interviewing
1:01:10
somebody
1:01:10
to
1:01:11
be
1:01:11
your
1:01:11
editor
1:01:11
or
1:01:12
especially
1:01:12
when
1:01:13
it
1:01:13
comes
1:01:13
to
1:01:13
your
1:01:13
illustrations.
1:01:14
Right,
1:01:15
Illustrations
1:01:16
going
1:01:16
back
1:01:17
because
1:01:17
the
1:01:18
words
1:01:18
are
1:01:18
so
1:01:18
limited.
1:01:19
It's
1:01:19
the
1:01:19
illustrations
1:01:20
that
1:01:21
really
1:01:21
help
1:01:21
emphasize
1:01:22
and
1:01:22
bring
1:01:22
your.
1:01:22
It's
1:01:23
neat
1:01:23
when
1:01:23
I
1:01:23
talk
1:01:23
to
1:01:24
someone
1:01:24
who
1:01:24
has
1:01:25
more
1:01:25
than
1:01:25
one
1:01:25
book.
1:01:26
And
1:01:27
so
1:01:27
I'm
1:01:27
interested
1:01:28
in
1:01:29
how
1:01:29
you
1:01:29
envisioned
1:01:30
your
1:01:30
success
1:01:31
when
1:01:31
you
1:01:32
wrote
1:01:32
your
1:01:32
first
1:01:32
book
1:01:33
and
1:01:34
how
1:01:34
are
1:01:34
you
1:01:34
envisioning
1:01:35
your
1:01:35
success
1:01:36
with
1:01:37
your
1:01:37
second
1:01:38
book?
1:01:38
Okay.
1:01:39
Remember
1:01:39
when
1:01:39
I
1:01:39
did
1:01:39
my
1:01:39
first
1:01:40
book,
1:01:40
I
1:01:40
was
1:01:40
naive
1:01:41
and
1:01:41
by
1:01:42
the
1:01:42
time
1:01:42
I
1:01:42
had
1:01:42
it
1:01:42
printed
1:01:43
and
1:01:43
it
1:01:43
was
1:01:43
all
1:01:43
up.
1:01:44
Hello.
1:01:44
I
1:01:45
was
1:01:45
on
1:01:45
the
1:01:45
Ellen
1:01:45
DeGeneres
1:01:46
show
1:01:47
because
1:01:47
she
1:01:47
was
1:01:47
an
1:01:48
animal
1:01:48
lover.
1:01:48
But
1:01:49
that
1:01:49
was
1:01:49
my
1:01:50
thought.
1:01:50
That
1:01:50
did
1:01:51
not
1:01:51
happen.
1:01:53
Oh,
1:01:54
she
1:01:54
liked
1:01:54
all
1:01:54
of
1:01:55
them.
1:01:56
She
1:01:56
loved
1:01:56
it.
1:01:57
And
1:01:57
I
1:01:57
actually
1:01:57
even
1:01:57
sent
1:01:58
a
1:01:58
book
1:01:58
to
1:01:59
the
1:01:59
end
1:01:59
of
1:01:59
color.
1:01:59
I
1:02:00
sent
1:02:00
a
1:02:00
book
1:02:00
and
1:02:00
two
1:02:01
coloring
1:02:01
books
1:02:01
to
1:02:02
Ellen
1:02:02
because
1:02:03
I
1:02:03
loved
1:02:04
animals.
1:02:04
This
1:02:04
is
1:02:05
a
1:02:05
shoe
1:02:05
in
1:02:05
Ellen.
1:02:06
If
1:02:06
you're
1:02:06
listening
1:02:07
anyway,
1:02:08
above
1:02:08
like
1:02:09
discovery,
1:02:09
I
1:02:10
reality
1:02:10
I
1:02:11
had
1:02:11
more
1:02:11
of
1:02:11
a
1:02:12
realistic
1:02:12
approach.
1:02:13
Okay.
1:02:14
Just
1:02:14
the
1:02:15
thought
1:02:15
of
1:02:16
I
1:02:16
just
1:02:16
want
1:02:16
to
1:02:16
get
1:02:17
out
1:02:17
and
1:02:17
when
1:02:17
I
1:02:17
can
1:02:18
go
1:02:18
somewhere
1:02:18
and
1:02:19
read
1:02:19
it
1:02:19
to
1:02:19
kids
1:02:19
or
1:02:20
if
1:02:21
I'm
1:02:21
out
1:02:21
and
1:02:21
about
1:02:21
and
1:02:22
I
1:02:22
see
1:02:22
like
1:02:23
a
1:02:23
parent
1:02:23
with
1:02:23
a
1:02:23
child
1:02:24
and
1:02:24
I
1:02:24
have
1:02:24
a
1:02:24
book
1:02:24
in
1:02:25
my
1:02:25
car,
1:02:26
especially
1:02:26
like
1:02:26
if
1:02:27
we're
1:02:27
coming
1:02:27
off
1:02:27
of
1:02:27
a
1:02:27
nature
1:02:28
trail
1:02:28
or
1:02:28
something.
1:02:29
I
1:02:29
just
1:02:29
love
1:02:30
going
1:02:30
up
1:02:30
to
1:02:30
the
1:02:31
parent
1:02:31
asking
1:02:32
if
1:02:32
I
1:02:32
can
1:02:32
give
1:02:33
their
1:02:33
child
1:02:33
a
1:02:34
book.
1:02:34
Oh,
1:02:34
good
1:02:35
for
1:02:35
you.
1:02:35
It's
1:02:35
just
1:02:36
fun
1:02:36
to
1:02:36
me
1:02:36
that
1:02:37
just
1:02:37
is
1:02:37
they
1:02:37
like
1:02:38
nature.
1:02:38
They
1:02:38
just
1:02:38
came
1:02:39
off
1:02:39
a
1:02:39
nature
1:02:39
trail
1:02:40
and
1:02:40
they're
1:02:40
at
1:02:41
that
1:02:41
perfect
1:02:41
age.
1:02:42
I
1:02:42
don't
1:02:42
usually
1:02:42
get
1:02:42
a
1:02:43
lot
1:02:43
of
1:02:43
no's
1:02:43
from
1:02:43
parents
1:02:44
on
1:02:44
that.
1:02:45
You
1:02:45
just
1:02:45
mentioned
1:02:46
you're.
1:02:46
You're
1:02:47
going
1:02:47
to
1:02:47
start
1:02:47
your
1:02:47
third
1:02:47
book.
1:02:48
It
1:02:48
may
1:02:48
not
1:02:48
be
1:02:48
a
1:02:49
children's
1:02:49
book.
1:02:49
So
1:02:50
tell
1:02:50
us
1:02:51
the
1:02:51
role
1:02:51
of
1:02:51
writing
1:02:52
now
1:02:52
in
1:02:52
your
1:02:52
life.
1:02:53
Think
1:02:54
about
1:02:54
10
1:02:54
years
1:02:54
ago
1:02:55
and
1:02:55
now
1:02:56
today
1:02:56
starting
1:02:57
your
1:02:57
third
1:02:57
book.
1:02:58
Tell
1:02:58
us
1:02:58
the
1:02:58
role
1:02:58
of
1:02:59
what's
1:02:59
it
1:03:00
mean
1:03:00
to
1:03:00
you?
1:03:00
I
1:03:01
didn't
1:03:01
again,
1:03:01
I
1:03:02
didn't
1:03:02
grow
1:03:02
up
1:03:02
thinking
1:03:03
I
1:03:03
wanted
1:03:03
to
1:03:03
be
1:03:03
a
1:03:03
writer.
1:03:04
I
1:03:04
always
1:03:04
loved
1:03:05
English
1:03:05
and
1:03:06
I
1:03:06
loved
1:03:07
words.
1:03:08
And
1:03:08
so
1:03:09
I.
1:03:10
What
1:03:10
I've
1:03:10
learned
1:03:10
as
1:03:11
I've
1:03:11
gotten
1:03:11
older
1:03:12
is
1:03:13
words
1:03:14
can
1:03:14
really
1:03:15
change
1:03:15
people's
1:03:16
lives
1:03:16
and
1:03:17
it
1:03:17
can
1:03:17
open
1:03:18
up.
1:03:18
People
1:03:19
read
1:03:19
books
1:03:19
all
1:03:19
the
1:03:20
time,
1:03:20
right?
1:03:20
To
1:03:20
just
1:03:20
escape
1:03:21
wherever
1:03:22
they're
1:03:22
at
1:03:22
or
1:03:22
to
1:03:23
get
1:03:23
learn.
1:03:24
Their
1:03:24
books
1:03:24
are
1:03:25
just
1:03:25
so
1:03:25
amazing.
1:03:26
All
1:03:26
books,
1:03:26
no
1:03:27
matter
1:03:27
what.
1:03:27
And
1:03:28
now
1:03:28
I
1:03:29
just
1:03:29
find
1:03:29
that
1:03:30
I
1:03:30
write
1:03:30
because
1:03:31
I
1:03:31
want
1:03:31
to
1:03:31
inspire
1:03:32
and
1:03:33
even
1:03:33
if
1:03:33
it's
1:03:33
just
1:03:33
one
1:03:34
person.
1:03:34
So
1:03:34
I
1:03:34
do
1:03:34
a
1:03:35
blog
1:03:35
as
1:03:35
well.
1:03:36
On
1:03:36
my
1:03:37
website.
1:03:38
And
1:03:38
I
1:03:38
do
1:03:39
that
1:03:39
just
1:03:39
because
1:03:40
you
1:03:40
don't
1:03:40
know
1:03:40
who
1:03:40
you're
1:03:41
going
1:03:41
to
1:03:41
affect.
1:03:41
Writing
1:03:42
is
1:03:42
very
1:03:43
personal
1:03:44
for
1:03:44
the
1:03:44
most
1:03:44
part,
1:03:45
and
1:03:45
very
1:03:45
solitary.
1:03:47
But
1:03:47
it's
1:03:47
fun
1:03:47
to
1:03:48
put
1:03:48
something
1:03:48
out
1:03:48
there,
1:03:49
even
1:03:49
if
1:03:50
you're
1:03:50
scared
1:03:50
to
1:03:50
do
1:03:50
it.
1:03:51
I
1:03:51
would
1:03:51
say
1:03:52
just
1:03:52
if
1:03:53
it's
1:03:53
coming
1:03:53
from
1:03:53
your
1:03:54
heart,
1:03:54
put
1:03:54
it
1:03:55
out
1:03:55
there.
1:03:55
If
1:03:56
you
1:03:56
just
1:03:57
affect
1:03:57
one
1:03:58
person,
1:03:59
that's
1:03:59
okay.
1:04:00
That's
1:04:00
pretty
1:04:00
cool.
1:04:01
And
1:04:01
then
1:04:01
build
1:04:01
off
1:04:01
of.
1:04:02
Right.
1:04:02
That
1:04:03
one
1:04:03
person
1:04:03
or
1:04:03
that
1:04:04
one
1:04:04
child
1:04:04
or
1:04:05
just
1:04:05
that
1:04:06
one.
1:04:06
Oh,
1:04:06
my
1:04:06
gosh,
1:04:07
really?
1:04:07
Or
1:04:07
that
1:04:07
little
1:04:08
boy.
1:04:08
I'm
1:04:08
gonna
1:04:08
go
1:04:09
tell
1:04:09
my
1:04:09
parents.
1:04:11
Don't
1:04:12
tell
1:04:12
him
1:04:12
my
1:04:12
name.
1:04:13
And,
1:04:13
you
1:04:13
know,
1:04:14
my
1:04:14
next
1:04:14
question
1:04:15
was,
1:04:16
what
1:04:16
advice
1:04:16
would
1:04:17
you
1:04:17
have
1:04:17
for
1:04:17
aspiring
1:04:18
authors?
1:04:18
And
1:04:18
you're
1:04:19
really
1:04:19
sharing
1:04:20
a
1:04:20
lot
1:04:20
of
1:04:20
that.
1:04:21
What
1:04:21
else
1:04:21
would
1:04:22
you
1:04:22
add
1:04:22
to
1:04:22
that?
1:04:23
Yeah,
1:04:23
I
1:04:23
would
1:04:24
say,
1:04:25
because
1:04:25
this
1:04:25
comes
1:04:26
up
1:04:26
for
1:04:26
probably
1:04:27
all
1:04:27
creatives
1:04:28
is
1:04:29
the
1:04:29
self
1:04:29
worthiness.
1:04:30
When
1:04:31
I
1:04:31
started
1:04:31
Clark,
1:04:32
I
1:04:32
was
1:04:33
in
1:04:33
this
1:04:33
huge,
1:04:34
long
1:04:34
workshop
1:04:35
weekend
1:04:35
workshop
1:04:36
with
1:04:36
people
1:04:36
that
1:04:36
have
1:04:37
been
1:04:37
studying
1:04:37
to
1:04:37
be
1:04:38
writers,
1:04:38
like,
1:04:38
their
1:04:38
whole
1:04:39
life.
1:04:39
And
1:04:40
oh,
1:04:40
my
1:04:40
gosh,
1:04:40
I
1:04:40
became
1:04:41
like,
1:04:41
as
1:04:42
big
1:04:42
as
1:04:42
an
1:04:42
ant
1:04:43
because
1:04:43
I'm
1:04:43
like,
1:04:43
oh.
1:04:44
And
1:04:44
here
1:04:44
I
1:04:44
am
1:04:44
just
1:04:44
thinking,
1:04:45
oh,
1:04:45
because
1:04:45
I
1:04:45
want
1:04:46
to
1:04:46
write,
1:04:46
because
1:04:46
I
1:04:47
have
1:04:47
a
1:04:47
great
1:04:47
idea.
1:04:48
And
1:04:48
you
1:04:48
know
1:04:48
what?
1:04:49
And
1:04:49
that's
1:04:49
okay,
1:04:50
because
1:04:50
whatever
1:04:51
you
1:04:51
bring
1:04:51
to
1:04:52
the
1:04:52
table
1:04:53
is
1:04:53
you,
1:04:54
and
1:04:54
it's
1:04:54
unique
1:04:55
to
1:04:55
you
1:04:56
and
1:04:57
it's
1:04:57
going
1:04:57
to
1:04:58
touch
1:04:58
somebody
1:04:59
and
1:04:59
it's
1:04:59
going
1:04:59
to
1:04:59
inspire
1:05:00
somebody
1:05:00
else
1:05:01
that,
1:05:01
okay,
1:05:01
I
1:05:01
may
1:05:02
not
1:05:02
have
1:05:02
all
1:05:03
that
1:05:03
training
1:05:04
and
1:05:04
all
1:05:04
these
1:05:04
medals
1:05:05
and
1:05:05
all
1:05:06
these
1:05:06
certificates,
1:05:07
but
1:05:07
I
1:05:08
believe
1:05:08
in
1:05:08
myself.
1:05:09
I've
1:05:09
got
1:05:09
a
1:05:09
good
1:05:09
idea.
1:05:10
I
1:05:10
know
1:05:10
how
1:05:11
to
1:05:11
go
1:05:11
about
1:05:11
it.
1:05:12
I
1:05:12
can.
1:05:12
I'm
1:05:12
smart
1:05:12
enough
1:05:13
to
1:05:13
surround
1:05:13
myself
1:05:14
with
1:05:14
smart
1:05:14
people
1:05:15
that
1:05:15
can
1:05:15
guide
1:05:16
me
1:05:16
along
1:05:16
the
1:05:17
way.
1:05:17
And
1:05:18
there's
1:05:18
so
1:05:19
many
1:05:19
resources
1:05:20
out
1:05:20
there,
1:05:20
like
1:05:20
even
1:05:21
just
1:05:21
this
1:05:21
podcast
1:05:22
that
1:05:22
you're
1:05:22
doing
1:05:22
and
1:05:23
you
1:05:23
put
1:05:23
out
1:05:23
all
1:05:24
the
1:05:24
time.
1:05:24
You
1:05:25
have
1:05:25
all
1:05:25
kinds
1:05:26
of
1:05:26
people
1:05:26
from
1:05:26
all
1:05:27
different
1:05:27
walks
1:05:27
of
1:05:27
life,
1:05:28
from
1:05:28
all
1:05:28
different
1:05:28
experiences,
1:05:30
and
1:05:30
they
1:05:30
didn't
1:05:31
all
1:05:31
go
1:05:31
to
1:05:32
college
1:05:32
to
1:05:32
get
1:05:33
a
1:05:33
degree
1:05:33
in
1:05:33
writing.
1:05:34
And
1:05:34
then
1:05:34
you
1:05:34
become
1:05:35
a
1:05:35
writer.
1:05:35
So
1:05:36
you
1:05:36
got
1:05:37
to
1:05:37
follow
1:05:37
your
1:05:37
passion
1:05:38
is
1:05:38
what
1:05:38
you've
1:05:38
got
1:05:39
to
1:05:39
do.
1:05:39
Aaron,
1:05:39
you've
1:05:39
hit
1:05:40
it
1:05:40
right
1:05:40
on
1:05:40
the
1:05:40
button.
1:05:41
I
1:05:41
think
1:05:41
if
1:05:41
you
1:05:42
listen
1:05:42
to
1:05:42
every
1:05:42
single
1:05:43
guest
1:05:43
I've
1:05:44
now
1:05:44
had
1:05:44
onto
1:05:45
the
1:05:45
show,
1:05:45
and
1:05:45
this
1:05:46
is
1:05:46
going
1:05:46
to
1:05:46
be
1:05:46
episode
1:05:47
27.
1:05:48
And
1:05:48
if
1:05:48
you
1:05:48
listen
1:05:49
to
1:05:50
all
1:05:50
of
1:05:50
the
1:05:50
guests
1:05:50
I've
1:05:51
had
1:05:51
on,
1:05:51
they
1:05:52
all
1:05:52
come
1:05:52
from
1:05:52
different
1:05:53
backgrounds.
1:05:54
And
1:05:54
it's
1:05:54
their
1:05:55
backgrounds
1:05:56
and
1:05:56
their
1:05:56
life
1:05:56
experiences
1:05:58
that
1:05:59
and
1:05:59
their
1:05:59
creativity.
1:06:00
They
1:06:00
have
1:06:00
to
1:06:00
have
1:06:01
that.
1:06:01
They
1:06:01
have
1:06:01
to
1:06:02
have
1:06:02
that
1:06:02
creativity
1:06:03
element
1:06:04
to
1:06:04
bring
1:06:04
that
1:06:05
bring
1:06:05
their
1:06:05
life
1:06:05
experiences
1:06:06
to
1:06:06
life
1:06:06
through
1:06:07
a
1:06:07
children's
1:06:07
book.
1:06:08
And
1:06:08
I
1:06:08
hear
1:06:08
that
1:06:09
all
1:06:09
the
1:06:09
time.
1:06:10
It's
1:06:10
just
1:06:10
amazing.
1:06:11
Yeah,
1:06:11
but
1:06:12
even
1:06:12
if
1:06:12
they're
1:06:12
talking
1:06:13
about.
1:06:13
One
1:06:14
of
1:06:14
my
1:06:14
author
1:06:14
friends
1:06:15
wrote
1:06:15
a
1:06:15
book
1:06:15
about
1:06:16
dogs
1:06:17
and
1:06:17
she's
1:06:17
Alba.
1:06:18
How
1:06:18
many
1:06:18
books
1:06:18
are
1:06:18
out
1:06:19
there
1:06:19
about
1:06:19
dogs?
1:06:20
And
1:06:20
I'm
1:06:20
like,
1:06:20
probably
1:06:21
a
1:06:21
gazillion
1:06:22
experience.
1:06:24
Not
1:06:24
your
1:06:24
dogs,
1:06:25
not
1:06:25
your
1:06:25
personality.
1:06:27
And
1:06:28
you
1:06:28
know
1:06:28
what?
1:06:28
We
1:06:28
all
1:06:29
do
1:06:29
it
1:06:29
for
1:06:30
a
1:06:31
reading
1:06:31
audience.
1:06:32
So
1:06:32
talk
1:06:33
to
1:06:33
us,
1:06:33
talk
1:06:33
to
1:06:34
us
1:06:34
about
1:06:34
encouragement
1:06:35
for
1:06:35
your
1:06:35
readers.
1:06:36
So
1:06:36
why
1:06:36
should
1:06:37
children's
1:06:37
book
1:06:38
readers
1:06:38
purchase
1:06:38
your
1:06:39
book?
1:06:40
They
1:06:40
should
1:06:40
purchase
1:06:41
my
1:06:42
book,
1:06:42
her
1:06:43
books,
1:06:44
because
1:06:45
they
1:06:45
inspire
1:06:47
and
1:06:47
because
1:06:47
they're
1:06:48
always
1:06:48
uplifting
1:06:48
and
1:06:48
they've
1:06:49
always
1:06:49
got
1:06:49
a
1:06:49
great
1:06:50
message.
1:06:50
And
1:06:51
so
1:06:51
even
1:06:51
with
1:06:51
a
1:06:51
bug
1:06:52
lightful
1:06:52
discovery,
1:06:53
even
1:06:53
if
1:06:53
you're
1:06:53
not
1:06:54
crazy
1:06:54
about
1:06:55
bugs,
1:06:55
you
1:06:56
have
1:06:56
to
1:06:56
appreciate
1:06:57
bugs
1:06:57
on
1:06:57
some
1:06:58
level
1:06:58
because
1:06:58
you
1:06:59
wouldn't
1:06:59
have
1:06:59
that
1:07:00
apple
1:07:01
on
1:07:01
your
1:07:01
plate
1:07:02
if
1:07:02
you
1:07:02
didn't
1:07:03
have
1:07:03
bees
1:07:03
pollinating
1:07:04
the
1:07:04
flowers
1:07:04
that
1:07:05
create
1:07:05
the
1:07:06
apple.
1:07:07
I
1:07:07
can,
1:07:07
I
1:07:07
could
1:07:08
see
1:07:08
through
1:07:08
my
1:07:08
grandchildren,
1:07:10
Amelia
1:07:11
and
1:07:11
her.
1:07:12
No,
1:07:12
really,
1:07:12
I
1:07:12
could
1:07:13
see.
1:07:13
And
1:07:13
I
1:07:13
could
1:07:13
see
1:07:14
her
1:07:14
with
1:07:14
her
1:07:14
siblings.
1:07:15
So
1:07:16
it's
1:07:16
very
1:07:16
cool.
1:07:17
What
1:07:17
I'm
1:07:17
trying
1:07:17
to
1:07:17
say
1:07:18
to
1:07:18
the
1:07:18
audience
1:07:19
and
1:07:20
children
1:07:20
book
1:07:20
readers
1:07:21
is
1:07:21
this
1:07:21
book
1:07:22
is
1:07:22
for
1:07:22
everyone,
1:07:23
for
1:07:24
sure.
1:07:24
Yeah.
1:07:24
Like
1:07:24
I
1:07:24
said,
1:07:25
My
1:07:25
95
1:07:25
year
1:07:26
old
1:07:26
father
1:07:26
got
1:07:27
something,
1:07:27
so
1:07:28
that's
1:07:28
all
1:07:29
good.
1:07:29
So
1:07:30
just
1:07:30
a
1:07:30
learning
1:07:31
curve
1:07:31
too
1:07:31
for
1:07:31
Amelia.
1:07:32
Right?
1:07:32
Kids
1:07:33
are
1:07:33
reactionary.
1:07:34
They
1:07:34
just
1:07:34
are
1:07:35
impulsive.
1:07:36
And
1:07:36
that's
1:07:36
the
1:07:36
way
1:07:36
it
1:07:37
should
1:07:37
be
1:07:37
because
1:07:38
that's.
1:07:39
They're
1:07:39
just
1:07:39
pure
1:07:40
at
1:07:40
that
1:07:40
point.
1:07:40
So
1:07:41
when
1:07:42
you
1:07:42
can
1:07:42
stop
1:07:42
before
1:07:43
you
1:07:43
act
1:07:44
and
1:07:44
think
1:07:45
a
1:07:45
little
1:07:45
bit
1:07:45
about
1:07:46
what
1:07:46
that
1:07:46
consequence
1:07:47
might
1:07:47
be,
1:07:48
then
1:07:48
you
1:07:49
can
1:07:49
make
1:07:49
better
1:07:50
decisions.
1:07:51
Tell
1:07:51
us
1:07:51
where
1:07:52
your
1:07:53
books
1:07:53
are
1:07:53
available.
1:07:54
Because
1:07:54
I
1:07:54
know
1:07:54
we
1:07:54
talk
1:07:55
about
1:07:55
Amazon
1:07:56
and
1:07:56
you
1:07:56
talked
1:07:57
about
1:07:57
ingramsparks,
1:07:58
but
1:07:58
I
1:07:58
think
1:07:58
most
1:07:59
book
1:07:59
readers
1:08:00
wouldn't
1:08:00
know
1:08:01
what
1:08:01
the
1:08:01
heck
1:08:02
ingramsparks
1:08:03
is.
1:08:03
So
1:08:04
tell
1:08:04
us
1:08:05
where
1:08:05
your
1:08:05
books
1:08:06
are
1:08:06
available.
1:08:07
My
1:08:07
books
1:08:07
are.
1:08:07
They're
1:08:08
all
1:08:08
available
1:08:08
from
1:08:09
my
1:08:09
website,
1:08:09
karenbshade.com
1:08:11
they
1:08:11
are
1:08:12
available
1:08:12
on
1:08:13
Amazon.com
1:08:15
and
1:08:15
other
1:08:16
Amazons.
1:08:16
I
1:08:16
guess
1:08:16
Amazon's
1:08:17
got
1:08:17
different
1:08:17
Amazons,
1:08:18
different
1:08:18
parts
1:08:19
of
1:08:19
the
1:08:19
world.
1:08:20
And
1:08:20
then
1:08:20
I've
1:08:20
got
1:08:21
them
1:08:21
locally
1:08:21
here
1:08:22
in
1:08:22
some
1:08:22
of
1:08:22
the
1:08:23
independent
1:08:23
bookstores
1:08:24
around
1:08:24
the
1:08:25
Seattle
1:08:25
area.
1:08:26
And
1:08:27
Wild
1:08:27
Birds
1:08:28
Unlimited
1:08:28
is
1:08:28
a
1:08:28
bird
1:08:29
food
1:08:29
store,
1:08:30
believe
1:08:30
it
1:08:30
or
1:08:30
not.
1:08:31
But
1:08:31
they
1:08:31
also
1:08:31
sell
1:08:32
books
1:08:32
on
1:08:32
gardening
1:08:33
and
1:08:33
bugs,
1:08:34
and
1:08:34
that's
1:08:34
a
1:08:35
nationwide
1:08:35
chain.
1:08:36
I
1:08:36
don't
1:08:36
know
1:08:36
if
1:08:36
you
1:08:36
have
1:08:36
those
1:08:36
in
1:08:37
Canada
1:08:37
or
1:08:37
not,
1:08:38
but
1:08:38
they're
1:08:39
carrying
1:08:39
my
1:08:39
book.
1:08:40
Oh,
1:08:40
good
1:08:40
for
1:08:40
you.
1:08:41
So,
1:08:41
yeah,
1:08:42
so
1:08:42
a
1:08:42
little
1:08:43
bit
1:08:43
here
1:08:43
and
1:08:43
there.
1:08:44
Final
1:08:44
thoughts,
1:08:45
is
1:08:45
there
1:08:45
anything
1:08:46
you're
1:08:47
thinking
1:08:47
about
1:08:47
that
1:08:48
you
1:08:48
said?
1:08:48
Geez,
1:08:48
I
1:08:48
wish
1:08:49
Rick
1:08:49
would've
1:08:49
asked
1:08:49
me
1:08:50
that
1:08:50
question.
1:08:50
Is
1:08:50
there
1:08:51
any
1:08:52
final
1:08:52
thoughts
1:08:53
that
1:08:53
you.
1:08:53
Have,
1:08:54
I
1:08:54
would
1:08:54
go
1:08:55
back
1:08:55
to.
1:08:55
Because
1:08:55
it's
1:08:56
Earth
1:08:56
Day
1:08:57
and
1:08:58
my
1:08:58
books
1:08:59
are
1:08:59
all
1:08:59
focused
1:08:59
on
1:09:00
nature.
1:09:01
I
1:09:01
would
1:09:01
say
1:09:02
to
1:09:02
just
1:09:03
remember
1:09:03
that
1:09:04
nature
1:09:04
is
1:09:04
all
1:09:04
around
1:09:05
us.
1:09:05
It
1:09:06
is
1:09:06
literally
1:09:07
outside
1:09:07
your
1:09:08
door.
1:09:08
Even
1:09:08
if
1:09:08
you're
1:09:09
on
1:09:09
a
1:09:09
balcony
1:09:09
and
1:09:09
you've
1:09:09
got
1:09:10
a
1:09:10
potted
1:09:10
plant,
1:09:11
that
1:09:11
this
1:09:12
part
1:09:12
of
1:09:12
nature,
1:09:12
we
1:09:13
are
1:09:13
part
1:09:13
of
1:09:13
nature.
1:09:14
And
1:09:15
so
1:09:15
we
1:09:15
need
1:09:16
as
1:09:16
much
1:09:16
as
1:09:17
we
1:09:17
need.
1:09:17
Nature
1:09:17
needs
1:09:18
us
1:09:18
not
1:09:18
quite
1:09:19
as
1:09:19
much,
1:09:20
but
1:09:20
we
1:09:21
are
1:09:21
kind
1:09:22
to
1:09:22
the
1:09:22
trees
1:09:23
and
1:09:23
the
1:09:23
plants
1:09:23
and
1:09:24
the
1:09:24
bugs
1:09:24
and
1:09:24
all
1:09:24
of
1:09:25
that.
1:09:25
We
1:09:26
can
1:09:26
just
1:09:26
all
1:09:27
grow
1:09:27
and
1:09:27
be
1:09:28
the
1:09:28
best
1:09:28
that
1:09:28
we
1:09:29
can
1:09:29
be.
1:09:29
So
1:09:30
just
1:09:30
remember,
1:09:31
don't
1:09:31
get
1:09:31
intimidated
1:09:32
by
1:09:32
nature.
1:09:32
It
1:09:32
doesn't
1:09:32
have
1:09:33
to
1:09:33
be
1:09:33
a
1:09:33
big
1:09:34
park
1:09:34
that
1:09:34
you
1:09:34
have
1:09:34
to
1:09:34
get
1:09:35
in
1:09:35
the
1:09:35
car
1:09:35
and
1:09:35
load
1:09:35
the
1:09:36
kids
1:09:36
into
1:09:36
and
1:09:36
go.
1:09:37
Literally,
1:09:37
most
1:09:38
towns
1:09:38
have
1:09:38
little
1:09:39
parks,
1:09:40
state
1:09:40
parks,
1:09:40
if
1:09:40
it's
1:09:41
a
1:09:41
little
1:09:41
lake,
1:09:42
if
1:09:42
it's
1:09:42
a
1:09:42
stream,
1:09:43
anything.
1:09:44
Just
1:09:44
listening
1:09:44
to
1:09:45
the
1:09:45
birds.
1:09:45
A
1:09:46
lot
1:09:46
of
1:09:46
it,
1:09:46
I
1:09:47
think
1:09:47
is
1:09:47
we
1:09:47
just
1:09:47
need
1:09:48
to
1:09:48
quiet
1:09:48
our
1:09:48
mind
1:09:48
a
1:09:49
little
1:09:49
bit.
1:09:49
We're
1:09:49
all
1:09:49
so
1:09:50
busy
1:09:50
with
1:09:50
life,
1:09:51
but
1:09:51
being
1:09:51
in
1:09:52
the
1:09:52
moment
1:09:52
is
1:09:52
literally
1:09:53
about
1:09:54
stopping
1:09:54
everything
1:09:55
and
1:09:55
just
1:09:55
listening.
1:09:56
When
1:09:56
you
1:09:56
go
1:09:56
out
1:09:57
the
1:09:57
door
1:09:57
in
1:09:57
the
1:09:57
morning,
1:09:58
just
1:09:58
stop
1:09:58
briefly.
1:09:59
Just
1:09:59
do
1:09:59
you
1:09:59
hear
1:10:00
a
1:10:00
bird?
1:10:00
Do
1:10:01
you
1:10:01
hear
1:10:01
the
1:10:01
trees
1:10:02
swaying
1:10:03
or
1:10:03
the
1:10:03
wind?
1:10:03
And
1:10:04
just
1:10:04
be
1:10:04
thankful
1:10:05
because
1:10:05
with
1:10:06
the
1:10:06
healthy
1:10:06
environment,
1:10:07
we
1:10:08
are
1:10:08
healthy.
1:10:09
Thank
1:10:09
you
1:10:09
for
1:10:10
sharing
1:10:10
such
1:10:10
a
1:10:11
strong
1:10:11
message
1:10:12
on
1:10:12
Earth
1:10:13
Day.
1:10:13
It's
1:10:13
just
1:10:14
been
1:10:14
incredible.
1:10:15
And
1:10:15
thank
1:10:15
you
1:10:15
so
1:10:16
much,
1:10:16
Karen,
1:10:16
for
1:10:16
being
1:10:17
a
1:10:17
guest
1:10:17
on
1:10:17
the
1:10:17
Adventures
1:10:18
in
1:10:18
the
1:10:18
Heart
1:10:19
of
1:10:19
Children's
1:10:19
Book
1:10:20
Authors.
1:10:21
Your
1:10:22
generosity
1:10:23
and
1:10:23
insights,
1:10:24
it's
1:10:24
incredible.
1:10:25
It's
1:10:26
inspiring,
1:10:26
I'm
1:10:27
sure,
1:10:27
to
1:10:27
our
1:10:28
guests,
1:10:28
to
1:10:29
the
1:10:29
simple
1:10:30
things
1:10:30
like
1:10:30
you
1:10:31
said,
1:10:31
about
1:10:32
just
1:10:32
going
1:10:32
out,
1:10:33
out
1:10:33
the
1:10:33
front
1:10:34
door
1:10:34
and
1:10:34
listening
1:10:35
for
1:10:35
a
1:10:35
bird
1:10:35
or
1:10:36
listening
1:10:36
to
1:10:36
nature.
1:10:37
Thank
1:10:38
you.
1:10:38
The
1:10:38
other
1:10:38
thing,
1:10:38
we
1:10:39
promise
1:10:39
our
1:10:39
audience
1:10:40
that
1:10:40
we'll
1:10:41
leave
1:10:41
links
1:10:41
to
1:10:42
Karen's
1:10:42
website
1:10:43
or
1:10:43
social
1:10:43
media
1:10:44
links.
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And
1:10:45
if
1:10:45
you
1:10:45
enjoyed
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other
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1:10:54
who
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1:10:55
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1:10:56
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1:11:00
about
1:11:00
delightful
1:11:01
discovery
1:11:01
and
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Clark
1:11:02
the
1:11:03
Mountain
1:11:03
Beaver
1:11:04
and
1:11:05
his
1:11:05
big
1:11:05
adventure.
1:11:06
Thank
1:11:07
you,
1:11:07
Karen.
1:11:08
Thank
1:11:08
you,
1:11:08
Rick.
1:11:08
It
1:11:08
was
1:11:09
a
1:11:09
pleasure.
1:11:09
Can't
1:11:09
wait
1:11:09
for
1:11:10
your
1:11:10
next
1:11:10
book.