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Framber v. Story, Carlos Correa is out for the season, Glasnow exits early, Emilio Pagán carted off · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: He's charging about.
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, uh, the hits keep coming for the Houston Astros.
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Speaker 2: Chandler Rome, who does a great job on our Foul
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Speaker 2: Territory network as well covering the Astros. Carlos Korea needs
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Speaker 2: season ending surgery on a torn tendon in his left ankle.
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Speaker 2: Recovery is six to eight months. That's a bummer, guys,
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Speaker 2: because remember when a couple of teams aj we're backing
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Speaker 2: out of the Carlos Korea sweepsticks, it was because of
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Speaker 2: the opposite ankle, the right ankle. But now it's the
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Speaker 2: left ankle that's going to end his season. The Astros hit,
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Speaker 2: you know, are hit with another blow. What do you
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Speaker 2: make of it?
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Speaker 3: I've never heard of this before, a guy taking a
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Speaker 3: swing in VP and rupturing his ankle, and it's his
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Speaker 3: front ankle too, which is even stranger to me. I
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Speaker 3: could see if you caught maybe your bank back ankle
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Speaker 3: trying to spin on the on the turf with some
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Speaker 3: cleats or something all but no one wears cleats and
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Speaker 3: bpining where. I don't think everyone has like specialized turfs
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Speaker 3: and or most of the most guys were tennis shoes. Heck,
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Speaker 3: so I don't know I've never heard of this before.
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Speaker 3: It's stinks for the Astros. It stinks for Carlos Korea.
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Speaker 3: This is not the ankle that he was you know,
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Speaker 3: anti physical against or failed as physical for earlier in
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Speaker 3: his career. So I guess that's good news, but this
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Speaker 3: sucks if your Korea. This sucks for the Astros. The
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Speaker 3: Astros already playing terrible. They don't need any more blows.
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Speaker 3: But get healthy, Carlos. We'll see you in twenty twenty seven, hopefully.
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Speaker 4: It's definitely one of those things that you look at
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Speaker 4: and you go, man, how could somebody hurt their front ankle?
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Speaker 4: Watch guys swing from now on, Like if you when
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Speaker 4: you turn the game on games on today, some guys
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Speaker 4: really roll on that front ankle. But to snap, most
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Speaker 4: of those guys have been doing Carls Kray has been
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Speaker 4: doing it for years, So you would think, like you
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Speaker 4: build up some type not immunity, but like strength in it.
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Speaker 4: If that's what's happening it, that is such a freak
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Speaker 4: thing to happen, and it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate for Carlos,
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Speaker 4: it's unfortunate for the Astros. I don't think with Carlos
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Speaker 4: in the lineup. The Astros were gonna be dig out
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Speaker 4: of the hole that they got themselves in.
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Speaker 1: It's not like other years.
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Speaker 4: Where people were saying, oh, you know in twenty twenty
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Speaker 4: four the Astros started X, Y and Z. Well, you
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Speaker 4: know what the actual the Astros. They're having a tough
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Speaker 4: time finding innings. They're having a tough time being able
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Speaker 4: to stay in games because of their pitching.
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Speaker 5: They are good.
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Speaker 4: I mean, there's the stat if you're listening, we have
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Speaker 4: the stat on the screen. They have a five to six' five.
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Speaker 4: Era their whip as a team is one six. Two
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Speaker 4: there are runners on base all the. TIME i know
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Speaker 4: they beat The dodgers last, night but let's just stick
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Speaker 4: with what's been. Happening their offense is, Okay they're pitching is,
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Speaker 4: brutal and losing another piece of this team is just
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Speaker 4: gonna put a bigger damper on this season THAT i
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Speaker 4: think is gonna be a washed. Season but that's exactly
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Speaker 4: when The astros come back when people don't believe in them.
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Speaker 2: Anymore that's just the, thing Right you look at the
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Speaker 2: injury and this is a team that has been riddle with,
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Speaker 2: them and, again no one's gonna feel sorry for The Houston.
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Speaker 2: Astros nobody feels sorry for any. Club but he's the
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Speaker 2: Fifteenth astros player guys to go on the injured, list
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Speaker 2: and it's two key. Guys it Includes Ace Hunter, brown,
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Speaker 2: Closer Josh, hater Shortstop Jeremy, penya Catcher yanni Or. Diez
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Speaker 2: and this is a guy obviously that is such an
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Speaker 2: instrumental part to their. Lineup and, again As eric was
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Speaker 2: just talking ABOUT, aj they have treaded water.
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Speaker 6: Because of the.
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Speaker 2: Offense the offense has been pretty, decent top five and
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Speaker 2: a lot of key offensive. Categories the pitching has been,
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Speaker 2: horrendous but you take Away Carlos, correa who's a big
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Speaker 2: piece of that. Offense i'm not certain where The astros
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Speaker 2: go from. HERE i, mean does this team at any,
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Speaker 2: point albeit On may, sixth do they have a shot
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Speaker 2: in making the postseason at all via the wild?
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Speaker 6: Card BECAUSE i don't think they're going to win the.
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Speaker 1: Division, NO i don't think.
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Speaker 3: THEY i don't think, honestly the way they're constructed right,
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Speaker 3: now with the pitching and with the, injuries, NO i
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Speaker 3: don't think they. Do, listen no one in The Al
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Speaker 3: west has run away with, This BUT i think The,
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Speaker 3: Rain The, mariners and The a's are all better than
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Speaker 3: where The astros a right. Now The angels are a
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Speaker 3: wash every. Year so we can go ahead and eliminate.
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Speaker 3: You we can go ahead and put the red line through.
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Speaker 1: Them they're.
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Speaker 3: Out BUT i don't think The astros can do. It
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Speaker 3: and it's not gonna and everyone's gonna look At Joe.
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Speaker 3: Spot Joe spot should lose his. Job it's Not Joe spot's.
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Speaker 3: Fault they have fifteen guys on THE. Il it's someone's.
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Speaker 3: FAULT i don't know, who but you, know it's like
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Speaker 3: the last couple of, years they've just been hit by injury,
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Speaker 3: injury injury. Injury Joe spot actually did a nice job
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Speaker 3: of keeping him in contention last. Year this, YEAR i
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Speaker 3: don't think he's going to be able to do it
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Speaker 3: with the names we've. Listed the starting pitchings in. Shambles
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Speaker 3: you cannot make the postseason if you are last in
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Speaker 3: the league in era and you have a one point six,
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Speaker 3: whip it's just not gonna. Happen you can't hit, enough
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Speaker 3: no matter how many Yord On, Alvarez jose L Two,
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Speaker 3: veays whoever else you want to throw out. There you
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Speaker 3: cannot hit enough to cover that era and that many base.
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Speaker 3: Runners it's, Impossible i'm, sorry.
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Speaker 2: One hundred percent because they're not hitting every single at,
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Speaker 2: bat right you two, Guys there's seven other guys that
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Speaker 2: have to hit in that.
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Speaker 6: Lineup, Eric is this an.
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Speaker 2: Injury issue or a not doing enough in the off?
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Speaker 2: Season is you to give them a better pitching staff
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Speaker 2: to begin with or more of a complete? Team Did
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Speaker 2: Dana brown do? Enough and, ALSO i mean another good
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Speaker 2: point That jeremy our, director brings, Up amaiya is not
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Speaker 2: doing what they thought he was going to. Do he's
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Speaker 2: Having so that's a two part. Question let's start with
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Speaker 2: did they do enough in the?
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Speaker 5: Offseason did they do? Enough did they Know Hunter brown
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Speaker 5: was going to go? Down?
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Speaker 4: No did they Know ami was going to be hurt
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Speaker 4: kind of or just trying to figure it?
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Speaker 5: Out.
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Speaker 4: No the part WHERE i Think Dana brown and the
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Speaker 4: scouts missed on was the fact that do they want
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Speaker 4: to build a team that has seven starting pitchers? Deep
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Speaker 4: because we had the list, BEFORE i, mean right now
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Speaker 4: they Have lance McCullers in their starting, ROTATION i, think
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Speaker 4: and he was a guy that you can't necessarily count
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Speaker 4: on the fact that they went out and Got Ryan,
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Speaker 4: weiss who was A i think it Was, korea but
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Speaker 4: it might have Been. Japan he was another overseas that they,
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Speaker 4: thought you, know they'd bring him in and kind of
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Speaker 4: a reclamation. Project Spencer arraghetti started out on THE, il
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Speaker 4: so he hasn't even been out there the entire season
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Speaker 4: like you've Had you've you've had injuries that have dipped
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Speaker 4: into your, depth and so as A, GM i think
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Speaker 4: the only thing would, Be, okay did you evaluate AM i?
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Speaker 4: Correctly is that the guy that you wanted to go
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Speaker 4: after with THE i think they're paying. HIM i got
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Speaker 4: to look it. UP i think they're paying him eighteen a.
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Speaker 4: Year but is that what you wanted to spend the
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Speaker 4: eighteen a year? On had they not gone and got
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Speaker 4: him and spent eighteen on other guys that were out
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Speaker 4: there for in free, AGENCY i don't Think astro fans
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Speaker 4: would have been, like, wow, man what a great. Pickup
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Speaker 4: it would have been kind of a depth not death,
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Speaker 4: piece but like a four or. Five SO i think
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Speaker 4: it was a good fiscal, decision a good financial, Decision
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Speaker 4: BUT i don't necessarily think the evaluation process has gone
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Speaker 4: as well as they thought it would right. Now he
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Speaker 4: was a guy with one above average big league, pitch
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Speaker 4: so he's essentially a two pitch big league, Pitcher and
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Speaker 4: they didn't feel like the slider was gonna be a
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Speaker 4: pitch he could just throw all the. Time that was
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Speaker 4: his one big league, Pitch and so, YEAH i mean
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Speaker 4: he messed up in that, Case but, NO i. DON'T
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Speaker 4: i Think Dana brown's done so much good for this.
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Speaker 4: Organization they went and made a big move last. Offseason
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Speaker 4: maybe not being able to Trade paradis Or Christian walker
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Speaker 4: probably hurt, them but it was also A Jim crane
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Speaker 4: move that they Brought Carlos. Kore there's a lot going,
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Speaker 4: on BUT i Think Dana brown's done a pretty good.
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Speaker 4: Job it's just the injury bug hits your. Stars it's
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Speaker 4: tough to recover.
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Speaker 3: From, also let's not forget this team has been good
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Speaker 3: for ten plus. Years they're almost ten years twenty fifteen
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Speaker 3: to twenty twenty, four twenty, five they missed the. Postseason
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Speaker 3: it also goes in. Cycles teams go, bad they get,
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Speaker 3: old they age. Out do you have to restart a?
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Speaker 3: Corps it's not always certain. Things they've tried to kind
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Speaker 3: of supplement it with the haters and with the bringing Back,
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Speaker 3: korea But korea is, older haters, older, RIGHT i mean
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Speaker 3: the amazing part is Lancemic colors has made all his
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Speaker 3: starts this. Year he's the one guy who hadn't been
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Speaker 3: able to pitch for all this. Time but you Lose Hunter.
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Speaker 3: Brown weis's coming over has not. Worked amaya has not.
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Speaker 3: Worked it's also a cycle of. Things teams are good
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Speaker 3: and then teams all eventually they go. Down Now, dodgers, Sorry,
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Speaker 3: alana at some point they're not gonna win every single.
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Speaker 3: Year but it's always like. This every team kind of
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Speaker 3: goes like, this right up and down and up and.
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Speaker 3: Down you try to keep the lows high and the
8:39
Speaker 3: highs as high as, possible but every team goes to
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Speaker 3: a little bit of a. Cycle and right now The
8:43
Speaker 3: astros are in the down.
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Speaker 6: Cycle, yeah you're absolutely.
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Speaker 2: RIGHT i remember there was a, time, GUYS i mean, ten, eleven,
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Speaker 2: twelve thirteen years, ago in the M court, era The
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Speaker 2: dodgers were. TERRIBLE i, mean people forget The dodgers were
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Speaker 2: really bad before the new ownership group.
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Speaker 1: Too but he has those parking, Lots, Alana he does
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Speaker 1: has those parking.
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Speaker 2: Lots will gets the money from the parking, lots and
9:02
Speaker 2: we know how much of a pain in the butt
9:03
Speaker 2: it is to park At Dodger. Stadium let me ask you,
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Speaker 2: this going back TO amai for a, Second, eric is
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Speaker 2: this more of a mechanical issue of being able to
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Speaker 2: get used to the way things go in terms of
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Speaker 2: the ball, here the hitters, here or.
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Speaker 6: Is this more of a just a culture shock in.
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Speaker 2: GENERAL i, MEAN i know that you probably haven't talked
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Speaker 2: to HIM i, obviously but what are you? NOTICING i,
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Speaker 2: mean he just had another rehab start didn't go. Well
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Speaker 2: it looks, like according To Chandler rome that he's going
9:31
Speaker 2: to be back in the rotation starting next week series Against,
9:35
Speaker 2: seattle presuming they want to keep him on five, days
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Speaker 2: that would be the opener On. Monday what have you
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Speaker 2: noticed from his?
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Speaker 4: Starts just that he has a tough ability to attack
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Speaker 4: and go after hitters with the fastball in the. Zone
9:52
Speaker 4: so when you have a pitch like the slider that
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Speaker 4: is supposed to be his one above average, pitch teams
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Speaker 4: have just eliminated. Spin they're, like, hey it's a pretty good.
10:02
Speaker 4: Pitch we're not going to hit it unless it's starting
10:04
Speaker 4: in one, location which is a hanging, slider and then
10:07
Speaker 4: everything else has to Be you have to be able
10:10
Speaker 4: to pitch more with your. Fastball you have to be
10:11
Speaker 4: able to pitch more with your fastball to make your
10:14
Speaker 4: slider better in the big, leagues and it seems like
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Speaker 4: he's afraid to be in.
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Speaker 5: The zone even some of his minor league.
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Speaker 4: Starts NOW i didn't see his most recent, one but
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Speaker 4: his last minor league, START i could care less what
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Speaker 4: hits he gives, up how many runs he gives, up
10:29
Speaker 4: BECAUSE i said it, before minor leaguers are coming, out they're,
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Speaker 4: ambushing they're ready to. Go but when you're, ambushing.
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Speaker 5: You're not walking a.
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Speaker 4: Lot and he walked three guys in his last in
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Speaker 4: his second last. START i don't know how many he
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Speaker 4: walked in this most recent. Start but it's one of
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Speaker 4: those things that if you're not in the zone in
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Speaker 4: the big, leagues then when you do come in the,
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Speaker 4: zone guys just smash. It if you, know if you're two,
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Speaker 4: oh three to, one one to oh to big league,
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Speaker 4: hitters bad big league, hitters when you're up in a,
11:02
Speaker 4: count you are in such an, advantage and he never
11:06
Speaker 4: is able to get to that, strikeout wipe out slider
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Speaker 4: that everybody saw and thought would be an okay pitch
11:13
Speaker 4: once he came over, here and so he has to
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Speaker 4: learn to be able to be in the zone and
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Speaker 4: not be afraid of.
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Speaker 2: Podcast well the beef is In detroit last night from Braval,
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Speaker 2: does Plunking trevor's story after the Entire Red sox lineup
12:38
Speaker 2: pretty much was teeing off on The tigers.
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Speaker 6: Pitcher it was a bit of a this.
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Speaker 2: Is definitely, intentional, Guys i'd be interested to take your
12:47
Speaker 2: take from Bravel does claimed he did not Get trevor
12:50
Speaker 2: story on, purpose a Bullshit valdez plunk story with the
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Speaker 2: first four seam fastball he has thrown all season. Long
12:58
Speaker 2: he throws a lot of two, seamers, boys but he
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Speaker 2: does not throw the four seam a. Lot his explanation
13:02
Speaker 2: was that he used the pitch as a quote backup
13:05
Speaker 2: plan to do something different Against Red sox. HITTERS i
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Speaker 2: mean they let him up like A christmas.
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Speaker 5: TREE.
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Speaker 2: Aj we will start with. You are you buying The
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Speaker 2: it was a backup. Plan there was no, intent And i'm,
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Speaker 2: sorry BUT i don't feel LIKE i should have been.
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Speaker 1: Ejected no to all of.
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Speaker 3: That did he just given up back to back homers
13:25
Speaker 3: in his first pitch hits he got right in the.
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Speaker 3: Back why didn't you Hit trevor, story AND i don't
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Speaker 3: want to hear, About, oh he was relaying. Signs that
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Speaker 3: whole thing that certain guy did ON, tv you, know
13:34
Speaker 3: or on his on The Twitter instagram thing that he
13:36
Speaker 3: was relaying everyone's relaying. Signs, now so now we're going
13:39
Speaker 3: to decide to hit somebody because they did it and
13:41
Speaker 3: it just so happened after back to back home. Runs,
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Speaker 3: yeah he might have been relaying, signs but let's also
13:46
Speaker 3: not forget he had just given up back to back
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Speaker 3: home runs and the next pitch was in the guy's.
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Speaker 1: Back so this was.
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Speaker 3: One hundred, million, billion, trillion, zillion whatever number you want to.
13:55
Speaker 1: Throw out, there on.
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Speaker 3: Purpose and, HE i, MEAN i, know he can't say
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Speaker 3: he did it on. Purpose trevor's. Story knew it was on,
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Speaker 3: Purpose The Red sox knew it was on. Purpose The
14:05
Speaker 3: tigers know it was on. Purpose they can't say It
14:08
Speaker 3: Will middlebrooks on The Red sox new was on. Purpose Andy,
14:10
Speaker 3: dirks who had an awful try to explain. This he
14:13
Speaker 3: knew it was on. Purpose Jason beneddi knew it was on.
14:15
Speaker 3: Purpose the whole stadium knew it was on. Purpose let's
14:18
Speaker 3: just say he will call a spade to spade and
14:20
Speaker 3: say what it. Is it was on. Purpose he was
14:23
Speaker 3: mad because he was getting lit up all over the
14:26
Speaker 3: park and he hit the.
14:28
Speaker 1: Guy here's my.
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Speaker 3: PROBLEM i was thrown out a, lot, okay AND i
14:30
Speaker 3: got thrown out BECAUSE i did stupid, stuff AND i
14:33
Speaker 3: got thrown out because guys on my team did stupid.
14:34
Speaker 3: Stuff but if a guy in front of me hit
14:36
Speaker 3: a home run AND i got, HIT i was more
14:39
Speaker 3: pissed BECAUSE i.
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Speaker 1: Didn't hit the home.
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Speaker 3: Run, Dude IF i would have hit a home run
14:42
Speaker 3: and you hit, me, okay MAYBE i deserve, it but
14:44
Speaker 3: don't hit someone else for something that you did wrong
14:47
Speaker 3: by giving up the home. Run it Wasn't Trevor story's
14:50
Speaker 3: fault that the two guys in front of him hit home.
14:52
Speaker 3: Runs it was From ervalved's his, fault and he went
14:55
Speaker 3: about it the wrong.
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Speaker 1: WAY i never liked.
14:57
Speaker 3: This i'm gonna hit, him and like we'd have times,
14:59
Speaker 3: where oh we should knock somebody down because we're getting lit.
15:02
Speaker 3: Up make better. Pitches make better. Pitches you don't have
15:05
Speaker 3: to throw at somebody and.
15:08
Speaker 5: Make.
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Speaker 2: Pitches and if they're laying, signs then you, know cover
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Speaker 2: your glove better and that's the that's the legal way
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Speaker 2: of relaying, signs, Right, ERIC i mean jumping off of
15:18
Speaker 2: second base if you're, gonna you, know tap on your.
15:20
Speaker 2: HELMET i, mean at least you're not banging trash. CANS i,
15:22
Speaker 2: mean let's be honest with. IT i, mean this is.
15:25
Speaker 2: Ridiculous and Even Aj hinch And i'm not going to
15:27
Speaker 2: speak For Aj, hinch But i'll put up the quote
15:29
Speaker 2: of what he, said we play a really good brand
15:31
Speaker 2: of baseball. Here that didn't feel like. It i'm not judging,
15:34
Speaker 2: intent BUT i know when you go out on the
15:37
Speaker 2: field and those, confrontations you usually feel like you're in your.
15:40
Speaker 2: Right it didn't feel good being out. There that's basically
15:43
Speaker 2: saying that was with, intent without saying that was with.
15:46
Speaker 4: Intent you wonder why players want things to always stay
15:52
Speaker 4: on the, field because players and managers who are on the,
15:55
Speaker 4: field you feel like a rhythm to a. Game you
15:59
Speaker 4: see when Things i'm, like, ah that that's a little.
16:01
Speaker 4: Off and so For aj to come out and say,
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Speaker 4: this he got, it like he, Understood like he goes
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Speaker 4: out on the field and you're, like, oh, man LIKE
16:10
Speaker 4: i kind of feel like like everybody knows.
16:12
Speaker 5: What we saw.
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Speaker 4: Here you know when somebody threw at. You Trevor story
16:16
Speaker 4: knows when somebody threw at. Him the people on the field.
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Speaker 4: Know if you're trying to sit here and say, no it,
16:22
Speaker 4: WASN'T i, Mean dingler's, like, YEAH i guess, yeah.
16:26
Speaker 5: Man and then SO.
16:28
Speaker 4: I love the fact THAT i love the fact That
16:31
Speaker 4: hinch came out and said. THIS i love, that you,
16:34
Speaker 4: know because he's always. Honest he's not trying to he's
16:38
Speaker 4: not trying TO bsu in the, media like trying to
16:40
Speaker 4: just blindly protect his. Players they knew this when they Got.
16:45
Speaker 4: Framber they knew of the crossing up the catcher. Thing
16:48
Speaker 4: they knew of his. IMMATURITY aj saw his immaturity when
16:51
Speaker 4: he was a younger player In, houston and you know,
16:54
Speaker 4: This and so some people have a predisposed idea of,
16:58
Speaker 4: it and then some people Like aj with this quote,
17:00
Speaker 4: here he felt what he felt on the, field and
17:05
Speaker 4: so it's just just slamming home WHAT Aj perzinski said Before.
17:12
Speaker 2: Aj, PIERZINSKI i would like to know your thought on
17:15
Speaker 2: the fact Of fromber comes into The tigers organization with
17:19
Speaker 2: a reputation and the entire offseason was spent showing clubs
17:24
Speaker 2: what a good guy he, is and AGAIN i don't know.
17:26
Speaker 2: HIM i don't cover.
17:27
Speaker 6: HIM i don't.
17:28
Speaker 2: Know but there is a narrative about from Er veldez
17:32
Speaker 2: And Will middlebrooks last night on the broadcast in this
17:35
Speaker 2: and broadcast said, yeah just you know something to the effect,
17:38
Speaker 2: of you, know maybe he's going to cross up his
17:40
Speaker 2: catcher next or whatever it, was because that happened to
17:42
Speaker 2: him when he was In. Houston so the narrative, continues
17:46
Speaker 2: are we reading this? Incorrectly Is fromber a good?
17:49
Speaker 6: Guy? Like what are we doing?
17:51
Speaker 1: HERE i don't.
17:52
Speaker 3: KNOW i don't Know fromber other Than i've said hello
17:54
Speaker 3: to him like twice in my. LIFE i had The
17:57
Speaker 3: tigers this past weekend and that question came, up not
18:01
Speaker 3: for me About, fromber And hinch defended him to the
18:05
Speaker 3: end what he should do as his.
18:06
Speaker 1: MANAGER i don't. KNOW i don't know him at.
18:09
Speaker 3: All you just can go off what you said and
18:11
Speaker 3: listen to somebody that had the reputation and it is
18:13
Speaker 3: what it. Is you can't really change, it and you
18:17
Speaker 3: just have to try to work around it a little.
18:19
Speaker 1: Bit but this wasn't a good look for him throwing at.
18:22
Speaker 3: Somebody i'm sorry it wasn't a good look when he
18:25
Speaker 3: crossed up his catcher last, year even though he said
18:26
Speaker 3: it wasn't, intentional WHICH i don't. Know we got to
18:29
Speaker 3: take the guy his, word. Right it's just starts compounding
18:33
Speaker 3: things and things and. Things and there's always been one
18:35
Speaker 3: thing About, fromber And Dusty baker always said this. Best
18:38
Speaker 3: he always Needed Martine maldonado to catch From, brevaldez to
18:42
Speaker 3: keep him under control and keep him focused and keep
18:44
Speaker 3: him engaged and stay on him.
18:46
Speaker 1: Right AND i.
18:47
Speaker 3: Feel like If fromber doesn't have, that then he has
18:49
Speaker 3: a hard. Time and you see this every or so
18:51
Speaker 3: often With, fromber where he just has a game when you're,
18:53
Speaker 3: like that is not the From brivealdez That i've watched
18:56
Speaker 3: pitch for the last seven or eight.
18:57
Speaker 1: Years wam he gives up ten runs and you're, like,
18:59
Speaker 1: wait how did that?
19:00
Speaker 3: Happened and this is why, Again Dusty baker, Said Martin
19:02
Speaker 3: malnatto would get in his ass and he would get
19:04
Speaker 3: him back, focus. Right SO i don't know if this
19:08
Speaker 3: is him or WHAT i want to hope it's not,
19:10
Speaker 3: him but, gosh, man it's just there's, evidence and when there's,
19:14
Speaker 3: smoke there's. Fire that's the old saying right and right.
19:17
Speaker 3: Now you got to look at. It ALL i know
19:18
Speaker 3: is he threw it him one hundred. Percent you can
19:20
Speaker 3: say whatever he. Wants he threw A trevor.
19:22
Speaker 2: Story, LOOK i wonder if a suspension is. COMING i
19:25
Speaker 2: want to ask you guys your opinion on The Garrett
19:27
Speaker 2: Cole Minor league outing. Situation is this the same or
19:30
Speaker 2: different a fastball road inside and drill the very next
19:33
Speaker 2: hitter who had taken him, deep the very hitter, rather
19:36
Speaker 2: who had taken him deep.
19:37
Speaker 5: Earlier.
19:37
Speaker 2: Eric it didn't take long for FORMER mlb Pitcher seth
19:41
Speaker 2: McClung to notice and quickly Called cole out on social.
19:44
Speaker 2: Media McClung, tweeted this is what being hit intentionally looks.
19:49
Speaker 2: LIKE i have no context to what. HAPPENED i don't need. It,
19:51
Speaker 2: honestly there's no reason a big leaguer who is obviously
19:54
Speaker 2: out on a rehab assignment needs to hit a minor.
19:58
Speaker 2: Leaguer what is your, Interpretation, eric of this particular.
20:01
Speaker 4: SITUATION i, mean it didn't look, good BUT i just
20:04
Speaker 4: have a hard time believing That cole's gonna try to
20:09
Speaker 4: hit a. Guy you saw the catcher move inside you
20:12
Speaker 4: saw his intent of where he was trying to throw the.
20:16
Speaker 4: BALL i think he was trying to throw it up
20:18
Speaker 4: and in and then you also Saw cole's. REACTION i
20:24
Speaker 4: feel LIKE i love when pitchers like just are, like, hey,
20:28
Speaker 4: WHATEVER i hit, him LIKE i hit the. GUY i
20:30
Speaker 4: don't want guys to like slip or, like, oh like
20:35
Speaker 4: lick my finger BECAUSE i THINK i THINK i mint
20:37
Speaker 4: lost a. Grip, no LIKE i felt like he stood
20:40
Speaker 4: on it And i'm. NOT i feel like it should
20:43
Speaker 4: be looked at because, rehabbers big league rehabbers can also
20:48
Speaker 4: get suspended when their own minor, league when they're playing
20:51
Speaker 4: in minor league, Games like if somebody deemed it intentional to,
20:56
Speaker 4: ME i think the umpire would say. Something BUT i know,
20:59
Speaker 4: umpire they're intimidated by big leaguers when they're down. Rehabbing
21:03
Speaker 4: whether it's hitters, pitchers it doesn't. Matter they're. Intimidated AND
21:08
Speaker 4: i don't. KNOW i would have to. ASK i would
21:10
Speaker 4: have to ask the hitter if he thought it was,
21:12
Speaker 4: intentional because the hitter will let you. Know you just
21:15
Speaker 4: know you played long enough you know if it's intentional or.
21:18
Speaker 3: Not and by the, way let me say, THIS i don't,
21:21
Speaker 3: know If Garret Coles stone out him, intentionally it's weird
21:23
Speaker 3: that he would do, that but, hey you, know never
21:26
Speaker 3: get inside someone's. Head but The fromber back To fromber
21:29
Speaker 3: for a second. Here if he does get, suspended this
21:31
Speaker 3: team is already beat up TO i, mean to all get.
21:34
Speaker 3: Out we mentioned The, astros but let's not forget about
21:37
Speaker 3: The tigers starting. Rotation how many guys they have on
21:39
Speaker 3: the shelf right, now Including Trek. Scooble so the day
21:42
Speaker 3: After Trek schooble announces he has to have surgery on
21:45
Speaker 3: his elbow and could miss two and a half, months
21:47
Speaker 3: your guy who you signed the offseason throws at somebody
21:50
Speaker 3: for having a bad outing and now he's going to
21:52
Speaker 3: be suspended for and possibly miss a starter or.
21:54
Speaker 1: Two this is not what you.
21:55
Speaker 3: Want If i'm some, guy a guy who's supposed to
21:57
Speaker 3: be a leader on your, Team i'm, Sorry like he's
21:59
Speaker 3: got to go out there and wear and give him
22:00
Speaker 3: as many ings as he can not get, Angry And i'm,
22:03
Speaker 3: Sorry i'm gonna say this, word AND i hate saying this.
22:06
Speaker 3: Word it's a little bit. Selfish it was a little bit,
22:08
Speaker 3: selfish AND i Think krats would agree with me that
22:11
Speaker 3: it was one of those things where you just can't
22:13
Speaker 3: have it. Happen you got to go out there and
22:14
Speaker 3: try to give him a good start and give your
22:16
Speaker 3: team something. Positive because If scoople's, Out mis is, Out verlander's,
22:21
Speaker 3: Out Jack flaherty hasn't pitched very Well. Fromberg you're counting
22:24
Speaker 3: on every fifth day to go out there and do,
22:26
Speaker 3: it and now he goes out and gets.
22:27
Speaker 1: Suspended it's just not a good.
22:29
Speaker 4: Look this is what team this is what people are
22:31
Speaker 4: talking about when you talk about team. Games you pitch team,
22:34
Speaker 4: innings you, pitch you take team at bats, like, HEY
22:37
Speaker 4: i know you you got to pitch right down the,
22:39
Speaker 4: middle but we needed that pitcher to throw more. Pitches
22:42
Speaker 4: if you're in the, lineup, like there's a way to
22:44
Speaker 4: play team games that helps you win the most possible
22:47
Speaker 4: games in one hundred and sixty two and What aj
22:49
Speaker 4: was just saying is one hundred percent on the.
22:52
Speaker 2: Mark, guys we've talked about it a, lot of, course
23:00
Speaker 2: we talked about The astros, injuries The tigers, Injuries Amelio
23:03
Speaker 2: pagan talking about him as far as the latest injury is,
23:07
Speaker 2: concerned carted off of the field after injuring his left
23:11
Speaker 2: hamstring on a first Pitch reds Reliever sentien, said that
23:15
Speaker 2: does that does something to somebody when a great, person great,
23:18
Speaker 2: human great, teammate great. Leader no one ever wants to
23:21
Speaker 2: see that with. ANYBODY i, mean what is going. ON i,
23:24
Speaker 2: mean that's not something certainly you want to, SEE i mean.
23:27
Speaker 2: LEFT i would imagine he.
23:29
Speaker 6: Did more than pull. THAT i mean agu or not
23:31
Speaker 6: on the il.
23:32
Speaker 2: Often but this sucks, hamstrings. Obliques this is a bummer
23:37
Speaker 2: for The.
23:37
Speaker 1: Reds, yeah he was a big piece of their.
23:40
Speaker 3: Bullpen he kind of Let Terry francona figure out he
23:43
Speaker 3: was the ninth and then he could use his other
23:45
Speaker 3: guys in the eighth and the. Seventh like we talked
23:46
Speaker 3: about the other, day how important a closer. Is so
23:49
Speaker 3: he was a big piece in helping them figure out their.
23:51
Speaker 3: Bullpen and to lose him for a significant amount of
23:53
Speaker 3: time is a big. Boat plus they've been walked off
23:55
Speaker 3: two days in a row by The cubs because he got.
23:57
Speaker 3: Hurt so this is not ideal. Timing the red are
24:00
Speaker 3: gonna be. OKAY i think one thing The reds have
24:02
Speaker 3: done is they've kind of And Terry francona has always
24:05
Speaker 3: been good about this not only having this. Closer, okay
24:08
Speaker 3: he goes, down but he's given guys enough confidence and
24:10
Speaker 3: enough innings in big moments where he feels like someone
24:12
Speaker 3: else can step in and take that. Role, now who
24:14
Speaker 3: that's gonna, be we'll have to. See BUT i Think
24:17
Speaker 3: Terry francona has done a great. Job everywhere he's been is, Like,
24:19
Speaker 3: okay this guy goes. Down i've given this guy enough
24:22
Speaker 3: confidence to fill that, role and then the next guy step,
24:24
Speaker 3: up and the next guy step.
24:25
Speaker 1: Up SO i think they'll be.
24:26
Speaker 3: Okay but this does suck because Also pegan's a good dude,
24:29
Speaker 3: man and he was having great years so last year
24:31
Speaker 3: and then into this, year so you know it's gonna.
24:34
Speaker 3: Hurt BUT i think they can cover it for a
24:36
Speaker 3: little bit of. TIME i hope he's not out for too.
24:38
Speaker 2: Long if anybody can handle, it It's tito for your
24:42
Speaker 2: Future hall Of fame manager And. ERIC i, mean To AJ's,
24:45
Speaker 2: point it's not just Because pegan is a good. CLOSER
24:48
Speaker 2: i mean he's such a well respected member of the.
24:51
Speaker 2: TEAM i would imagine this void is a little bit
24:53
Speaker 2: bigger because of. That you're not only losing a great,
24:56
Speaker 2: arm but you're losing a great personality and kind of
24:58
Speaker 2: the glue of that bull and in perhaps of your team.
25:01
Speaker 4: Entirely No emilia knowing him when he was early on
25:05
Speaker 4: in his career and like now he's established himself as
25:09
Speaker 4: like that shut down. Closer, Yeah i'm sure it's a big.
25:12
Speaker 4: Piece it's, missed but you know him as a, person
25:15
Speaker 4: he can still be around the. Guys so even talking
25:19
Speaker 4: to him in spring, training you could, TELL i, know
25:20
Speaker 4: most of the conversation we had about in spring training
25:23
Speaker 4: was about W, wwe but he just he has that
25:29
Speaker 4: persona that he really connects with different guys and if
25:33
Speaker 4: he is was SANTILLIN i think it. Was i'm not
25:36
Speaker 4: sure who said it who was talking about, him but
25:39
Speaker 4: yeah it, was, Yeah, Santalina and he, said, like if
25:45
Speaker 4: he's saying that about him as a, person maybe he
25:47
Speaker 4: can still be. Around not everybody that gets hurt wants
25:51
Speaker 4: to be around the. Team they're kind of, like, AH
25:52
Speaker 4: i gotta stay, Away like the guys are are battling
25:55
Speaker 4: And i'm not out there to help them or anything like.
25:57
Speaker 4: That maybe a guy like this stays. Around so it's
25:59
Speaker 4: maybe not a complete and total, loss but him as
26:02
Speaker 4: the closer is a complete and total loss because he
26:06
Speaker 4: was really able, to LIKE aj, said shorten these. Games you,
26:10
Speaker 4: know Does Graham ashcraft jump into the jump into the closer?
26:14
Speaker 4: Role is it a closer by? Committee we've already, SAID
26:17
Speaker 4: i don't Think tito likes. It we've already said you
26:19
Speaker 4: need a nine tending guy because that inning is, different
26:22
Speaker 4: and he was able to really solidify. THAT i think
26:25
Speaker 4: as thirty two saves last year or something like that
26:27
Speaker 4: for a team, that, oh, yeah made the, Playoffs they're
26:30
Speaker 4: in a skid right. Now somebody's got to step. Up
26:32
Speaker 4: nobody in The central is going to cry over The
26:35
Speaker 4: reds losing their.
26:36
Speaker 2: Closer, yeah thirty two staves last year For, pagan it
26:39
Speaker 2: was a career best for.
26:41
Speaker 6: Him The Blue.
26:42
Speaker 2: Jays are absolutely decimated by, injuries particularly guys in their starting.
26:47
Speaker 2: Rotation Max schures are the latest in terms of. That
26:50
Speaker 2: after throwing At Tropicana, Field Max scherzer said his forearm
26:53
Speaker 2: isn't responding the way he. Hoped the plan NOW aj
26:57
Speaker 2: is to talk to more doctors and figure things out
27:00
Speaker 2: out from. There his ankle is progressing. WELL i guess that's.
27:02
Speaker 2: Good he told that to The Hazel may And Mitch.
27:06
Speaker 2: Bannon this From Ben Nicholson smith ON X, so let's
27:09
Speaker 2: talk about this in terms of the ROTATION aj because
27:13
Speaker 2: this is a team that so many guys in their
27:17
Speaker 2: starting rotation are on the. Shelf And Max, schuzer you,
27:21
Speaker 2: know wanted to go back To, toronto but he is
27:23
Speaker 2: up there in age in terms of baseball.
27:25
Speaker 6: Age what do you make of?
27:27
Speaker 5: This it sucks For.
27:29
Speaker 3: MAX i REMEMBER i did a game a couple weeks
27:32
Speaker 3: ago where he only pitched two INNINGS i, think and
27:34
Speaker 3: he came. Out everyone's, like, well why.
27:35
Speaker 5: DON'T i come?
27:36
Speaker 3: Out and he said he had forearm ten and. Ias
27:38
Speaker 3: he did not hurt it more and it just about
27:40
Speaker 3: a week later he went on THE il because of forearm.
27:42
Speaker 3: Tenanitis so it's not good For max and his. Age
27:46
Speaker 3: you don't recover as well as he used to when
27:48
Speaker 3: you're in the. Forties can he come?
27:50
Speaker 5: Back?
27:51
Speaker 3: Sure do they need him, back of, course but they
27:55
Speaker 3: The Blue jays are playing, Better they're pitching has been. Better,
27:59
Speaker 3: Uh it's just it sucks more almost on a personal
28:02
Speaker 3: level For max because this is PROBABLY i don't want
28:04
Speaker 3: to say it's going to be his last, year but
28:05
Speaker 3: there was a great possibility this could have been his
28:07
Speaker 3: last year and to him not be able to finish
28:09
Speaker 3: it the way he wants to right, now hopefully he
28:12
Speaker 3: comes back. Again then that's that's the sad, part because
28:14
Speaker 3: he wanted to be In. Toronto he wanted to pitch In,
28:16
Speaker 3: toronto and now he's not having that.
28:18
Speaker 6: Opportunity, eric does he need to play the piano?
28:22
Speaker 2: More Ken rosenthal did a great story About max Scherz
28:25
Speaker 2: or playing the, piano but in all, seriousness he talked
28:29
Speaker 2: To Hazel may that does she does a great job
28:31
Speaker 2: covering The Blue, jays and he says it's confusing as
28:34
Speaker 2: heck because he has a CLEAN. Mri so this has
28:36
Speaker 2: got to be super frustrating and annoying to the Future
28:39
Speaker 2: hall Of famer.
28:41
Speaker 5: If we're bringing it.
28:42
Speaker 4: Up he's thought about it like three seconds after the injury,
28:45
Speaker 4: happened you, know right when he Has my elbow's not bouncing.
28:49
Speaker 4: Back DID i do too? Much DID i not do?
28:51
Speaker 4: Enough AM i doing the right?
28:53
Speaker 5: Thing you? Question?
28:54
Speaker 4: Okay is piano the thing that's that's helping my fingers
28:57
Speaker 4: WHEN i had the finger? Problem my wrists WHEN i
28:59
Speaker 4: had the, Wrist, oh maybe it's hurting my forearm at some.
29:03
Speaker 4: POINT i was very fortunate BECAUSE i never played a.
29:07
Speaker 4: LOT i Never my body didn't really wear, down AND
29:10
Speaker 4: i was fortunate to be able to play When i'm
29:11
Speaker 4: WHEN i was, forty to have the amount of, innings
29:14
Speaker 4: the miles that you, have and to come through it
29:17
Speaker 4: with a CLEAN.
29:18
Speaker 5: Mri on his Elbow and they don't know what it.
29:21
Speaker 4: Is is this just the Standard.
29:25
Speaker 5: Father time. Age it's catching up to his. Elbow could
29:30
Speaker 5: that be?
29:30
Speaker 4: Rest could they get a quality ten starts from him
29:34
Speaker 4: by the end of this? Year who knows what that number.
29:36
Speaker 4: Is but as The Blue jays have, shown they need
29:41
Speaker 4: him out on the. Field they Need burrios out on the.
29:43
Speaker 4: Field they Need bieber to be able to get back
29:46
Speaker 4: when these guys are starting to get healthy because of
29:49
Speaker 4: all the. Injuries they need their pitchers to continue to throw.
29:53
Speaker 4: Well they need their offense to do. Well The jays
29:56
Speaker 4: have high. EXPECTATIONS i also think they caught lightning in
30:00
Speaker 4: a bottle last, year so they're gonna have to do
30:02
Speaker 4: it again this year because if you remember The jays
30:04
Speaker 4: two years, Ago i'm not saying The jays are, cooked
30:07
Speaker 4: But i'm saying The jays two years ago were nothing
30:10
Speaker 4: like The jay's last year and they added to this.
30:13
Speaker 4: TEAM i think they're a better team than they were last.
30:16
Speaker 4: Year but that doesn't mean they're going to go from
30:19
Speaker 4: ninety four wins to one hundred and four because they
30:22
Speaker 4: Added Dylan, cees because they went After Kyle tucker in free,
30:26
Speaker 4: agency because they made all these.
30:29
Speaker 5: Moves, no, like they still have to go out and.
30:32
Speaker 4: Play these, games and with their, injuries they're gonna have
30:35
Speaker 4: to figure out a way to get back in this
30:37
Speaker 4: race and make sure it's not just a wild card
30:40
Speaker 4: race and it's a division race and they have an
30:44
Speaker 4: uphill battle if these guys aren't able to get.
30:46
Speaker 2: Healthy, Yeah i'm not certain that we thought that The
30:48
Speaker 2: rays were going to be as good as they are so.
30:50
Speaker 2: Far The, rays The, yankees and The a's of all,
30:52
Speaker 2: teams the only Three American league teams above five hundred right.
30:56
Speaker 2: Now eric Mentioned Shane bieber aj there is an update on,
30:59
Speaker 2: Him John schneider saying that he looked sharp in a
31:03
Speaker 2: two up bullpen at The trap. Today The Blue jay's
31:06
Speaker 2: already will throw another two at bullpen next, week then
31:09
Speaker 2: work against live hitters for the first. Time so you
31:12
Speaker 2: guys are, catchers what does that mean in terms of his,
31:14
Speaker 2: progress and obviously it looks like he's headed in the right.
31:18
Speaker 2: Direction it would be great to Get Shane bieber back
31:20
Speaker 2: in That Blue jays. ROTATION i feel like we haven't
31:23
Speaker 2: seen him a ton as a Blue jay because of
31:26
Speaker 2: the injury.
31:26
Speaker 1: Woes, no we.
31:28
Speaker 3: Haven't and he came back last year at the end
31:30
Speaker 3: and pitch and did all. Right and then when we
31:33
Speaker 3: talked to, him he, said you, know he lost a
31:34
Speaker 3: little bit of. Feel it would be one good, star
31:36
Speaker 3: one bad. Start and then we all questioned why did
31:37
Speaker 3: he take the? Option why did he pick up his
31:40
Speaker 3: own option For? Toronto and it was because he was,
31:44
Speaker 3: injured and now we know the extent of, it and
31:46
Speaker 3: hopefully he comes back and pitch as. Well Shane bieber
31:49
Speaker 3: is a good. Guy he's a great interview and he's
31:51
Speaker 3: a great pitcher when he's. Healthy so hopefully he can
31:53
Speaker 3: come back and help The Blue. Jays because, listen, nobody
31:56
Speaker 3: we don't want to see anybody. Hurt contrary to what people,
31:58
Speaker 3: think we don't want to see anybody. Hurt we don't
31:59
Speaker 3: want to see anybody not at their, best and want
32:01
Speaker 3: everyone to be at their. Best And Shane bieber is
32:03
Speaker 3: special when he's right and you're.
32:06
Speaker 5: Talking about two, up go, ahead go, Ahead.
32:10
Speaker 4: No, No if you're talking about two up, bullpen that
32:13
Speaker 4: means he threw whatever twenty or fifteen or twenty, pitches sat,
32:17
Speaker 4: down got back up through fifteen or twenty. Pitches so
32:20
Speaker 4: he's essentially up to thirty to forty, pitches is WHAT
32:23
Speaker 4: i would. Guess this is, like this is Like february
32:28
Speaker 4: fifth maybe of a pitcher's, routine Maybe february, fifteenth Like
32:34
Speaker 4: ray when he gets to spring, training and then his
32:36
Speaker 4: next outing will be. Lives maybe he does two lives
32:40
Speaker 4: and then his first outing is in the. Game so
32:42
Speaker 4: if you're talking, about, okay well when Will Shane bieber be,
32:45
Speaker 4: back they're not going to rush. Him and if you're
32:48
Speaker 4: talking about normal, progression he's in my, opinion he's a
32:53
Speaker 4: deep six to eight weeks away from pitching. Yet so
32:56
Speaker 4: you're talking about The All star break, essentially.
32:59
Speaker 6: Yeah SO i mean he's not anywhere. Close it is
33:01
Speaker 6: basically what you're.
33:02
Speaker 2: Saying And i'm not certain guys That Jose barrios is close,
33:05
Speaker 2: either Because Ben Nicholson smith was saying that The Blue
33:08
Speaker 2: jays are still working through next steps With barrios after
33:10
Speaker 2: HIS mri last. Night expectation As jays will know and
33:14
Speaker 2: share more On. Friday so we still don't know when
33:17
Speaker 2: he's coming. BACK i, mean let's, say all things being, EQUAL,
33:20
Speaker 2: aj if all three guys were coming, back let's say,
33:23
Speaker 2: tomorrow who do you think would have the biggest impact
33:27
Speaker 2: on this starting, rotation just based on?
33:29
Speaker 3: Stuff if you go off, stuff to, me It's beaver
33:35
Speaker 3: and if you go, off if you go off name Obviously.
33:38
Speaker 3: Sureser and then if you go off what had been,
33:40
Speaker 3: consistency it would Be burrios because he would take the
33:42
Speaker 3: ball every fifth day and now he's lost. That so
33:46
Speaker 3: the answer is all of. Them flip a, Coin, DELANA
33:50
Speaker 3: i don't. Know flip a three sided coin and see
33:52
Speaker 3: which one. LANDS i don't, know because right now you
33:55
Speaker 3: can't trust any of, them and it stinks for The Blue.
33:57
Speaker 2: Jays, yeah and we don't know when any of them
33:59
Speaker 2: are come, back so that also stinks for. Them another
34:02
Speaker 2: update for you guys dealing with yet another, pitcher a
34:06
Speaker 2: guy that definitely they want. Back brandon woodroof The Big,
34:09
Speaker 2: wu had a minor procedure. Yesterday this From adam, mccalvey
34:12
Speaker 2: who covers The brewers FROM mlb Dot com to drain
34:15
Speaker 2: fluid from his shoulder and is tentatively set to resume
34:18
Speaker 2: throwing On. Saturday Pat murphy believes That woodrooff will only
34:22
Speaker 2: need a couple of bullpens before he rejoins the. Rotation and,
34:26
Speaker 2: again The brewers just continue to surprise me every single
34:30
Speaker 2: year with the way that they are always in. It,
34:32
Speaker 2: Right but it's only going to get, Better eric If
34:35
Speaker 2: Big wu comes.
34:36
Speaker 5: Back it.
34:38
Speaker 4: Is but they're always in it because they Had Corbyn,
34:40
Speaker 4: Burns josh Hater Dal, Williams, Peralt Big wu and Healthy Big.
34:48
Speaker 4: Wu like that's why they were always in, it because
34:51
Speaker 4: as much as they didn't have a large, payroll they
34:55
Speaker 4: had some kind of stud pitcher that every other team.
34:57
Speaker 4: Wants The mets wanted to give away the farm For Freddy,
35:00
Speaker 4: parolta like they had those. Pieces and Without Big, wu
35:05
Speaker 4: Is patrick gonna be? Enough Is Kyle harrison for?
35:08
Speaker 5: Real?
35:09
Speaker 4: Yes, awesome, awesome great, Story like always always defying the.
35:13
Speaker 4: Odds you're defying the odds because of who you. Had
35:17
Speaker 4: the mis had to leave his last. Start hopefully he's
35:20
Speaker 4: one hundred percent to me With Big. Wu the fluid
35:23
Speaker 4: on his shoulder makes me question why was their fluid
35:28
Speaker 4: on his? Shoulder, well he had a major shoulder. Surgery
35:31
Speaker 4: maybe as an, organization you can't get rid Of Freddy
35:35
Speaker 4: perolta this year because of the fact That Big wu's
35:39
Speaker 4: not going to give you thirty two starts like he wants.
35:42
Speaker 4: To so you have to keep a guy that you
35:44
Speaker 4: normally would, Say, okay we're getting rid, of but they,
35:46
Speaker 4: did so now they have to figure it. Out now
35:49
Speaker 4: they have to hope That patrick continues to have a good,
35:53
Speaker 4: year That miz is going to be a guy who's
35:56
Speaker 4: most likely not going to give you a lot of,
35:57
Speaker 4: innings but it'll give you a lot of punchouts on most.
36:00
Speaker 4: Nights and so you hope he's coming, back but you
36:04
Speaker 4: also temper that with let's make sure he's, good but
36:08
Speaker 4: also make sure we're not just running him like every other.
36:11
Speaker 4: Pitcher he had a repaired, shoulder and to throw in
36:15
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36:18
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36:21
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Speaker 2: Said former Met Brandon nimmo on if his trade was
38:05
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38:08
Speaker 2: QUOTE i believe it was probably just a baseball. DECISION
38:11
Speaker 2: i didn't see anything wrong with the chemistry between the,
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38:17
Speaker 2: i didn't know about.
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Speaker 6: It, Again, age we'll start with.
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Speaker 2: YOU i was a bit surprised that The mets Let
38:23
Speaker 2: Pete alonzo, walk that they got rid Of Brandon, neimo
38:27
Speaker 2: two key. PIECES i thought of what The mets were
38:30
Speaker 2: doing last. Season but he didn't seem to think that
38:34
Speaker 2: there was a personality conflict or a chemistry issue with The.
38:38
Speaker 2: Mets but he did also say that there's a certain
38:41
Speaker 2: type of player and type of person that does well
38:46
Speaker 2: In New.
38:46
Speaker 6: York what do you think about what he? Said it's
38:49
Speaker 6: just a, baseball baseball.
38:51
Speaker 3: Decision he said exactly what you're supposed to. Say he's
38:55
Speaker 3: not going to sell out his other, team his old.
38:57
Speaker 3: Team he doesn't want to cause he. Doesn't he learned,
38:59
Speaker 3: Well i'll give him. Credit he learned well In New.
39:01
Speaker 3: York if there was Something he's, LIKE i didn't know about, it,
39:04
Speaker 3: well of course you didn't know about.
39:05
Speaker 1: It, RIGHT i, mean there's been enough articles written about.
39:07
Speaker 3: This we don't have to dig into all the ifs
39:10
Speaker 3: and butts and whats and nuts and all that.
39:11
Speaker 5: Stuff BUT.
39:13
Speaker 1: I don't.
39:14
Speaker 3: KNOW i, mean for The, rangers you're, like, uh, yeah
39:17
Speaker 3: we'll make that trade again tomorrow for different. Players if
39:21
Speaker 3: The mets want to make it the way they're playing right, NOW.
39:25
Speaker 1: I don't.
39:26
Speaker 3: Know he just said exactly what you're supposed to say
39:27
Speaker 3: to try to shut this story. Down and you know,
39:29
Speaker 3: WHAT i applaud, You Brandon. Neimo good job you learned
39:31
Speaker 3: something In New.
39:32
Speaker 2: York all, Right SO i want you guys to listen
39:37
Speaker 2: to What Brandon nemo had to say about basically the
39:40
Speaker 2: differences of playing for The New York mets and The Texas.
39:43
Speaker 6: Rangers take a.
39:44
Speaker 8: Listen guys would always told me when they would come
39:47
Speaker 8: from other, teams like this is this always how it is,
39:52
Speaker 8: here you, Know AND i didn't know any, Different SO
39:55
Speaker 8: i was just, Like, Hey i'm not really the guy
39:57
Speaker 8: to ask on, that but, yeah this is how it's
39:59
Speaker 8: a bit never SINCE, i you, know SINCE i came.
40:02
Speaker 8: Up now being on the other on the other, SIDE
40:06
Speaker 8: i do realize what they. Mean it is a lot
40:09
Speaker 8: more laid back and, uh you, know there's just not
40:16
Speaker 8: NECESSARILY i wouldn't say less, responsibility but it's just it's
40:21
Speaker 8: it's a whole lot. Easier and so there is a
40:26
Speaker 8: certain type of player and type of person that it
40:29
Speaker 8: takes in order to be In New. York AND i
40:32
Speaker 8: understand that better. NOW i just grew up in, it
40:35
Speaker 8: SO i didn't know any, different but NOW i. DO
40:38
Speaker 8: i would have more apathy and and be able to
40:42
Speaker 8: understand a little bit more coming From texas now and being.
40:46
Speaker 5: There for a little.
40:47
Speaker 2: Bit, guys long gone are the, days for the most,
40:50
Speaker 2: part that a guy can spend his entire career with one.
40:54
Speaker 2: Team you guys have played for different. Organizations, Obviously eric
40:57
Speaker 2: a lot of different. Organizations but is he is there
40:59
Speaker 2: true to What Brandon nemo is, SAYING a fine prospect
41:03
Speaker 2: out Of.
41:03
Speaker 6: Shyanne, wyoming by the, way not a lot of guys
41:05
Speaker 6: come out Of.
41:05
Speaker 2: Wyoming is there truth aj and what he's saying that
41:09
Speaker 2: it takes a different type of player to have success
41:13
Speaker 2: In New.
41:13
Speaker 1: York.
41:14
Speaker 3: ABSOLUTELY i played In. Texas it's. Great nobody cares that.
41:17
Speaker 3: Much It's cowboys. Football It's cowboys, football, Man that's what
41:22
Speaker 3: you used to always joke.
41:22
Speaker 1: About everyone would be, like.
41:24
Speaker 3: Oh The rangers, are we're in first, place stud but,
41:26
Speaker 3: wait when did The cowboys? Start and when Is Jerry
41:28
Speaker 3: jones gonna? Do it's kind of like there's, like you,
41:31
Speaker 3: know you have the one beat beat Writer Evan. Grant
41:33
Speaker 3: we all know he's not. Respectable we love you have. It,
41:36
Speaker 3: uh you know they have a couple other ones, there but,
41:38
Speaker 3: listen it's very easy to play In. Texas it's a great.
41:40
Speaker 3: PLACE i love my year In. Texas it was so.
41:43
Speaker 3: Fun it was a great. Atmosphere the fans are great
41:46
Speaker 3: that they're. There they're, supportive they show up every, night
41:50
Speaker 3: they don't boo.
41:50
Speaker 1: You it's a.
41:51
Speaker 3: Lot it's a lot like playing In Saint louis on
41:53
Speaker 3: a smaller. Scale and, Listen Brandon nemo is. Right you
41:57
Speaker 3: go From york where there's twenty five beat writers standing
41:59
Speaker 3: there talk and asking you question after question after. Question
42:02
Speaker 3: you go To texas there's literally like three.
42:04
Speaker 1: Guys you know them.
42:04
Speaker 3: All you have a relationship with them, all and you
42:06
Speaker 3: can talk to him and they understand what to write
42:09
Speaker 3: and what not to. Write and that's what's cool about.
42:11
Speaker 3: It and that's why some people thrive in big, market
42:14
Speaker 3: so some guys thrive in small.
42:15
Speaker 1: Markets it's just a.
42:16
Speaker 3: Personality Think Brandon nima nailed it, Again, brandon you're two
42:19
Speaker 3: for two.
42:19
Speaker 5: Today, yeah he nailed. It and he was always he
42:22
Speaker 5: was always going to be the.
42:23
Speaker 4: One the reporter said, it that was always going to
42:26
Speaker 4: win the award at the bbwa's for The New York
42:29
Speaker 4: Sports Writer's Favorite, player essentially is the.
42:32
Speaker 5: Award but they said they have a.
42:33
Speaker 4: Rule they, said, yeah good guy, award you can't get
42:36
Speaker 4: it more than one time in your. Career and they,
42:39
Speaker 4: SAID i think it Was, ALBERNAZ i think she said.
42:43
Speaker 4: It i'm saying it. Wrong albernie. HEARD i forget where
42:47
Speaker 4: her first name, is but either, way she said, it
42:50
Speaker 4: and she was, like, yeah he can only win it one,
42:52
Speaker 4: year so somebody else has to win. It so, Yeah
42:54
Speaker 4: brandon gets.
42:56
Speaker 5: That he gets. That.
42:57
Speaker 4: Now the STORY i have IS i got called up
42:59
Speaker 4: for the first time ever To. Pittsburgh pittsburgh had like
43:03
Speaker 4: two or three beat. Writers the next YEAR i went
43:05
Speaker 4: to my to big league camp with The. Phillies that
43:07
Speaker 4: was the year that they Signed Cliff. Lee they, had you,
43:11
Speaker 4: know they had the five ass on the. Team they
43:14
Speaker 4: had just finished four straight division championships and spring training
43:19
Speaker 4: From pittsburgh to spring training To philly was. Ridiculous so
43:25
Speaker 4: you just you get immersed in it right away when
43:28
Speaker 4: you get to a larger. Market and so IF aj
43:30
Speaker 4: said that's How Tech texas was, easy nobody really cared
43:33
Speaker 4: because they were focused on The. Cowboys there's plenty of
43:36
Speaker 4: places like, that but when you have the big, market
43:39
Speaker 4: there's so many more. Opportunities there's so much more of
43:43
Speaker 4: a mobility for you to be an impact in other
43:46
Speaker 4: ways than just. Baseball and SO i think players who
43:49
Speaker 4: struggle with that it's just because they're not playing good.
43:53
Speaker 4: Baseball i've never seen anybody, say, oh, MAN i struggled
43:56
Speaker 4: In New york that YEAR i won THE mvp that,
43:59
Speaker 4: year THAT i THAT i hit two ninety with thirty
44:02
Speaker 4: Five New.
44:03
Speaker 5: York just ate me. Alive, no it's a. Dude they're
44:05
Speaker 5: hitting two thirty with like ten.
44:08
Speaker 2: Pumps all, right we have some new information. Here The
44:22
Speaker 2: dodgers are already playing against The Houston astros in a day.
44:25
Speaker 2: Game Jack, harris who writes for The California, post uh,
44:29
Speaker 2: Oh Dave, roberts and a trainer are coming out to
44:31
Speaker 2: check On Tyler glasnow after he threw some warm up
44:34
Speaker 2: pitches for the second. Inning it isn't my understanding that
44:36
Speaker 2: he is out of the, game, guys so that's not.
44:39
Speaker 2: Good they are Getting Blake snell back, soon and they
44:43
Speaker 2: were going to have to make a decision as to
44:45
Speaker 2: who was going to be the odd man, out but
44:47
Speaker 2: they may not have to aj If glasnow is in
44:49
Speaker 2: fact out for a.
44:50
Speaker 3: Bit, yeah, back they, said back, back lower back. Problems
44:55
Speaker 3: hopefully he's back.
44:56
Speaker 1: Soon that's.
44:56
Speaker 6: It, YEAH i mean they do Have IF i don't
45:01
Speaker 6: know how.
45:01
Speaker 4: This guy gets, Hurt i'll be, honest playing with him
45:04
Speaker 4: as hard as he works as diligent as he is about,
45:07
Speaker 4: stuff but it's been standard for. Him but it's also
45:11
Speaker 4: good that The dodgers are able to hopefully stop it
45:14
Speaker 4: before it gets really, bad and they have that depth
45:18
Speaker 4: to be able to do.
45:19
Speaker 6: That very.
45:20
Speaker 2: True i've seen a lot of first, pitches as have, you,
45:23
Speaker 2: gentlemen in terms of ceremonial first pitches and those types of.
45:26
Speaker 2: Things but how about This Miami dolphins Quarterback Malik willis
45:30
Speaker 2: throughout the first pitch ahead Of friday's. Game, now he
45:33
Speaker 2: is The Miami dolphins, quarterback AS i just, mentioned but
45:35
Speaker 2: this first pitch was a bit.
45:37
Speaker 6: Crazy he claims that he. Slipped are you buying?
45:42
Speaker 2: It?
45:42
Speaker 3: Aj, hey at least he didn't bounce. It he missed,
45:45
Speaker 3: high he missed, hi and he threw it. Hard so
45:47
Speaker 3: about the worst first Pitch i've ever, SEEN. Fifa there's
45:52
Speaker 3: a few of them that are pretty. Bad Bob costas
45:54
Speaker 3: out about it and once we love, You, bob but
45:56
Speaker 3: no one saw it was racingly memory banks.
45:59
Speaker 5: Forever.
46:00
Speaker 1: Yeah we at least he do it high in, heart
46:01
Speaker 1: so we'll give him credit for.
46:02
Speaker 4: That he did, slip go back and watch the. Video
46:05
Speaker 4: you can see his front foot. Slip but it's a
46:08
Speaker 4: rookie mistake by a. Quarterback you just you just think, Automatically, well, yeah,
46:13
Speaker 4: quarterback you should be able to throw a. BASEBALL i
46:16
Speaker 4: bet more baseball players can throw a football than football
46:18
Speaker 4: players can throw a.
46:20
Speaker 6: Baseball are baseball players the best?
46:22
Speaker 4: ATHLETES i, mean if you, argue if you argue what
46:26
Speaker 4: an athlete, is are they the most physically?
46:28
Speaker 5: Gifted? No could they play other?
46:30
Speaker 4: Sports, yes but let's be, honest like physically, gifted go
46:35
Speaker 4: go on a football. Field them men are built way
46:39
Speaker 4: different than baseball. Players you go on the basketball, Court
46:42
Speaker 4: you're not touching AN nba. Court it's not happening like
46:45
Speaker 4: sport to. Sport that's hard.
46:47
Speaker 6: Argument, COORDINATION i think is the hardest thing in the.
46:50
Speaker 3: World, specialized, specialized the most specialized. Skill hitting a baseball
46:55
Speaker 3: is the most specialized.
46:55
Speaker 2: SKILL i, Mean dion said that baseball was the hardest wort.
47:01
Speaker 3: User it is specially the specialized one is the hardest.
47:03
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47:07
Speaker 3: Today if you haven't seen the thing pitching N ejina
47:09
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47:12
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47:14
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47:18
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47:24
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47:29
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47:29
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47:30
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47:30
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47:37
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47:39
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47:44
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47:45
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47:47
Speaker 6: Always we appreciate. It Scott brown is back with you guys.
47:50
Speaker 2: Tomorrow for all of you joining, us thanks so much,
47:53
Speaker 2: Obviously Joe, Matten, specer Torkl, Sin we appreciate, you.
47:57
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