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- 0:00Welcome back to Trauma Free Relationship podcast.
- 0:03I'm so glad that you're here with us today.
- 0:06If you've experienced relational or attachment trauma, you
- 0:10already know how hard it can feel to use your words or voice
- 0:16your experience in your relationship.
- 0:18And sometimes it's not some big long speeches that can trip us
- 0:22up. Sometimes it's just a few small
- 0:25words. Well, today we're going to
- 0:28explore three of the most powerful yet most difficult
- 0:32words for trauma survivors to say in relationships.
- 0:36And my hope is that by the end of the podcast, you'll not only
- 0:40understand why these words feel so hard, but also begin to have
- 0:45some of the tools to practice them safely and gently in your
- 0:49own relationships. Now, before I start with my
- 0:53introduction, I also want to say this is my 100th episode of this
- 0:58podcast. And I just want to say thank you
- 1:01to all the listeners. When I started this podcast, I
- 1:05had no idea if anybody besides me would even care.
- 1:09And the fact that I've gotten so many wonderful responses, I've
- 1:13gotten so much great feedback over the last 100 episodes that
- 1:17I've made it this far. I'm sorry to say, it's only
- 1:20emboldened me to go even further and to continue bringing this to
- 1:25you. I really feel like this is one
- 1:28of the best mediums for being able to reach people and offer
- 1:33valuable information. Nothing's wrong with social
- 1:36media or YouTube, but for me, I just feel like this is one of
- 1:40the best platforms to be able to talk so openly about something
- 1:47as sensitive as relational and attachment trauma and to be able
- 1:52to reach people and give them tools and tips and techniques
- 1:56that they can do, and in the hope that it impacts their life
- 2:00and their relationships. So 100 episodes in, all I can
- 2:04say is thank you very, very much.
- 2:06I'm really appreciative of each and every one of you.
- 2:10Welcome to Trauma free relationship.
- 2:13I'm your host, Tom Phil, and I've been working for years with
- 2:16adults who struggle with relational trauma to regain
- 2:19trust in themselves and others so that they can experience a
- 2:23safe and secure relationship. Let's get started, OK?
- 2:37As I mentioned at the outset that we're going to talk about 3
- 2:41words today that trauma survivors struggle to say in
- 2:46their relationships. Some of these might surprise
- 2:48you, maybe some of them won't. But some of them, I think, are a
- 2:52little bit different than what you might have expected.
- 2:55So the first one we're going to start with is the word no.
- 2:59Now, I've done a whole nother podcast on having to set
- 3:03boundaries, not specifically around the word no, but just why
- 3:06it's hard to set boundaries. So you could always go back and
- 3:09listen to that one as well. But the word no can be very
- 3:13difficult for trauma survivors to be able to say to a partner
- 3:18and especially if they've got a history of neglect, abandonment,
- 3:23abuse, because saying no often feels unsafe.
- 3:29Maybe no led to punishment or withdrawal of love or rejection.
- 3:35So internally saying no feels dangerous to a trauma survivor,
- 3:43especially if they've got that history of neglect, abandonment
- 3:46or abandonment. And it it could actually be
- 3:49dangerous because of the consequences of what they got
- 3:52before previously when they said no, their partner withdrew from
- 3:57them or withheld love. Or maybe it got really big and
- 4:02really scary and really emotionally, if not physically,
- 4:07perhaps abusive. And So what happens is over
- 4:11time, the individual that's trying to survive that does
- 4:16indeed adapt, because if the human being is nothing else,
- 4:20they are adaptable and they find a way to adapt to even the worst
- 4:26of circumstances. So many trauma survivors do
- 4:30adapt to this and they adapt this sort of fawning or people
- 4:34pleasing kind of pattern. And so that becomes their
- 4:39survival strategy. And it's a brilliant survival
- 4:42strategy. It's very simple.
- 4:44Oh, I just don't say no. I don't resist people.
- 4:47I focus on others. I attuned to them more than I
- 4:50worry about them attuning to me. And I just make sure I
- 4:54overextend myself. I just make sure I never say no.
- 4:57I just make sure everybody else feels OK.
- 5:01But if you can get a trauma survivor to stop and slow down
- 5:06and really examine internally the cost of that, they'll come
- 5:10up with a huge cost. Because the cost of that is a
- 5:14cost to the part of themselves. A cost to a part of themselves
- 5:19that can be empowered to set boundaries.
- 5:22A cost to a part of themselves that can have a voice and
- 5:27advocate for themselves when they need to stand up for
- 5:31themselves, stick up for themselves, defend what they
- 5:34feel is right, at least in the moment.
- 5:37And so there's a huge cost to not being able to say no.
- 5:42And it's just a 2 letter word, but it is a powerful, powerful
- 5:46word to say. And as I often say, no is a
- 5:50complete sentence. It needs no other explanations.
- 5:54No period is a complete sentence.
- 5:58It doesn't need a bunch of examples about why this doesn't
- 6:01work or why you can't do it, or it doesn't need a bunch of
- 6:05explanations. It can just be a no.
- 6:09And in my other podcast that that dives a little bit deeper
- 6:13into this one particular subject, I talked about a couple
- 6:17of phrases that you could just have in your pack back pocket.
- 6:20And I want to give those to you now because I think those are
- 6:22important. And that is that you can say, no
- 6:25thank you. That doesn't work for me, but I
- 6:28appreciate the offer or thank you for thinking of me.
- 6:32No thank you. I don't really feel like that
- 6:34would be a good fit. No thank you.
- 6:36That doesn't really feel like that would be something I'm
- 6:39interested in. So there's there's all kinds of
- 6:42phrases that you could use. Another one is that doesn't work
- 6:47for me or I need time to think this over.
- 6:51And the power of the pause is another example I gave because
- 6:55that one's really important to being able to say, you know,
- 6:58that's really interesting. Give me some time to think about
- 7:01that. I may need a little bit of time
- 7:04to, to think about. That is always OK.
- 7:08It's always OK in my life and in my, my business especially, I
- 7:14never make rash decisions. Sometimes I probably wait too
- 7:19long for things, but I've learned that it's always OK to
- 7:23say, Huh, that's interesting. I'll have to think about that
- 7:26for a while. If I want to move forward, I'll
- 7:28get back with you. But thank you for the offer or
- 7:30thank you for thinking of me. Appreciate your, your call or
- 7:34appreciate you coming by to see me.
- 7:35But I'll have to think about that.
- 7:37So always being able to say no thank you or I need, I need time
- 7:43to think about this is important because what happens otherwise
- 7:48is those boundaries get blurred in our relationships when we
- 7:52can't just simply say no or or thank you.
- 7:57I'll have to think about it. And what happens is the person
- 8:00ends up building this resentfulness.
- 8:03They end up feeling exhausted and often times invisible.
- 8:08When you have a partner that's not able to simply say no and
- 8:14the IT it impacts the relationship too, because your
- 8:18partner doesn't understand what your true needs are and they
- 8:21don't see that things are building up inside you.
- 8:25They only see it when you might get really angry and explode
- 8:29over something that's completely unrelated to that particular
- 8:32subject. Maybe you feel like your
- 8:34partner's been running over you for years and all of a sudden
- 8:38you come home and the dishes are piled up in the sink and you
- 8:41explode. Well, it's not really about the
- 8:43dishes. This is just one more thing
- 8:46where you feel like you're being taken advantage of just in that
- 8:50example. And so these things can build up
- 8:53inside of us, these resentments and this exhaustion, this giving
- 8:57part of ourselves away constantly to others without
- 9:02being able to have a, an adequate balance there.
- 9:06So being able to say no is really important in our
- 9:11relationships and in our life, whether it's at work with a
- 9:14colleague or whether it's a solicitor that calls on the
- 9:18phone. Being able to say no is is
- 9:22vastly important to our post traumatic growth.
- 9:26And so being able to just practice this in small pieces.
- 9:30And as I said, start with just little micro boundaries.
- 9:34Start with small things like no thank you.
- 9:37Maybe it's at a coffee shop, you know, do you want cream in that?
- 9:39No thank you. Maybe that's not a problem to
- 9:42set a boundary there because you hate cream in your coffee, but
- 9:45you get the idea. So start small.
- 9:48What's a, what's a small little thing that I could say no to
- 9:51today? And I don't need any explanation
- 9:54beyond that. I can just say no thanks.
- 9:57Or how can I practice these little lines?
- 9:59Like, you know, I'll have to think about that.
- 10:01That's an interesting offer. I don't know what I want to do
- 10:04yet, but give me some time or you know what, let me think
- 10:07about that. I'll have to get back to you if
- 10:09I want to move forward. So being able to start small
- 10:12and, and set small boundaries and practice these boundaries
- 10:16and practice the word saying no, I can be very empowering to
- 10:21regain that sense of yourself, to empower that part of you that
- 10:28is calm and competent and capable and connected and is
- 10:34able to get in touch often times with your true needs that are
- 10:38just screaming sometimes to be heard and to be seen by others.
- 10:43But they get masked under this fawning strategy and, and they
- 10:48don't get seen or heard as much. OK, that's the first one.
- 10:51What about #2 this one might surprise you a little bit.
- 10:56Maybe it doesn't. This is the word help.
- 11:00And I see this a lot. Trauma survivors, often times
- 11:05you do not know that they have trauma.
- 11:08I, I've said on in front of couples and individuals for
- 11:14decades, practically. And unless I start digging a
- 11:17little bit below the surface, unless I start doing a good
- 11:21attachment history from them, then I might never know.
- 11:25Because on the outside, it looks like maybe they've got it all
- 11:28together and they've learned again how to adapt.
- 11:32And their protectors have learned how to keep them
- 11:35together day-to-day and hold all that trauma at Bay until a
- 11:40certain time or a certain place where they can sort of just let
- 11:44it out. But it's really important to be
- 11:47able to understand below the surface that a lot of times
- 11:51they're not doing well. I think about like a a duck on
- 11:55the water right on the top of the water, a duck looks like
- 11:58it's traveling really smooth, but underneath its legs and feet
- 12:03may be paddling like hell. And so sometimes that's how I
- 12:07picture trauma survivors on the inside is there they're using so
- 12:11much energy. They are are putting so much
- 12:15effort into just maintaining and trying to stay in the window of
- 12:20tolerance and trying to to stay in that part of them that's
- 12:23calm, cool, collected, competent and, and connected.
- 12:28And and they use a lot of energy every day doing that.
- 12:31And they would never be able to say help.
- 12:35So trauma survivors often grow up environments where asking for
- 12:40help meant disappointment, it meant criticism.
- 12:43And again, it usually caused some kind of danger.
- 12:48Going to your caretakers, going to your adult partner and saying
- 12:52help, I'm not doing well can be actually a really dangerous
- 12:57thing to say because it maybe it got you bad consequences.
- 13:02So that was a danger, not a relief.
- 13:06You didn't have anybody in your life be able to show up for you,
- 13:09to be able to sit with you when you're doing poorly, to be able
- 13:13to step alongside you and say you are not alone in this, I am
- 13:17here with you. Your cry for help has been
- 13:21heard. And so instead, it became a
- 13:25danger cue. And as a result, they feel like
- 13:30they had to do everything themselves.
- 13:33And as a result, it, it became a huge burden.
- 13:37I'm alone in this world. Nobody can help me.
- 13:40I never asked for help, but that does that's beside the point.
- 13:44Somebody should see that I'm struggling.
- 13:46And what I see often times in relationships is the partner
- 13:49doesn't always see that you're struggling.
- 13:51What they see is somebody that can sort of do it all but
- 13:55doesn't recognize that they're drowning under the surface, that
- 13:59inside they may feel like they're drowning.
- 14:01So the couples can get into this cycle where one partner let's
- 14:06the other partner do the vast majority of the functioning.
- 14:09There's a name for this. We call them over functioners
- 14:11and under functioners at times, especially around things like
- 14:15housework and stuff like that. And so one partner can
- 14:19oftentimes recognize, not recognize, excuse me, when their
- 14:24other partner, the trauma survivors actually drowning
- 14:27right there. They're trying to do everything
- 14:28they can to keep it all together.
- 14:30And again, it can just sort of this resentment can grow inside
- 14:35of them. And So what happens is it they
- 14:37can be more isolated. They can, as I said, become an
- 14:41over functioner. They can burn out.
- 14:44They can come in and scream about the smallest thing that's
- 14:48not really about, oh, you didn't vacuum me today.
- 14:51Now I've lost it because I just asked you to do that one thing.
- 14:56And so it's not really about vacuuming.
- 14:59It's really about how I don't feel like I've got a partner
- 15:02that can help me, but I'm also not really saying that I need
- 15:06help. And so it can really break down
- 15:09intimacy. And I don't just mean sexual
- 15:11intimacy. I mean, just the emotional bond
- 15:14in a couple because the one partners doesn't always
- 15:17recognizing that the other partner needs help and the other
- 15:20partner isn't always asking. So being able to say help is an
- 15:26extremely powerful thing to do. And, and even being able to
- 15:31communicate that one word to your partner shows tremendous
- 15:35post traumatic growth. Because now all of a sudden
- 15:39you're relearning, you're retraining your, your brain to
- 15:44be able to recognize when you might need help and then be able
- 15:48to actually communicate that to your partner and communicate it
- 15:53in a way that your protective part doesn't just show up and
- 15:57say it out of anger and frustration.
- 16:00And it's the last straw because your partner's likely going to
- 16:04put up their walls or shut down, or they're going to only hear
- 16:07that you're, you've lost it with them.
- 16:10But be able to show up in a way that says I'm feeling really
- 16:14vulnerable here because I'm feel like I'm drowning on the inside
- 16:18and I need help. Maybe I need help, you know, not
- 16:23just around the house. Maybe I need, I need help you
- 16:26attuning to me more. Maybe I need help because I need
- 16:30you to help me fill up my emotional bucket.
- 16:32It's running dry and I don't have much left or it feels like
- 16:36it's overflowing and I've got 0 capacity and I need you to
- 16:40attune to me. I need you to check in with me
- 16:43more. I need you to inquire more about
- 16:46my emotional life because I feel like I'm running on empty.
- 16:51So being able to communicate that in a more soft, vulnerable
- 16:55way is very important. So if you're going to start
- 16:59working on this, how can I say help more in my relationships,
- 17:04Start small, start with low stakes, you know, start with a
- 17:09simply asking for something teeny tiny.
- 17:12Hey, today, it's your day off and I want you to enjoy it.
- 17:15But by the time I get home tonight, would you mind doing
- 17:18the dishes for me? I'd really appreciate it.
- 17:21Or, hey, tonight when I get home, can we just talk about it
- 17:24'cause I just got a day that's already making me anxious and
- 17:28I'd love to be able to just talk about that day and have somebody
- 17:32be able to just attune to me and, and want to listen to it.
- 17:35Do you mind if we take some time when I get home to do that?
- 17:38So start small. Start with little things that
- 17:42don't feel overwhelming. You don't have to be drowning
- 17:46and at your, at your last straw, so to speak, in order to then be
- 17:52able to ask for help. I want you to be able to sort of
- 17:55walk back from the edge of the Cliff and recognize when you
- 17:59need help sooner so that that you can ask for it then, because
- 18:03that's when you really need it, when it starts to build low and
- 18:07slow, not when it's at 100% or at capacity and you feel like
- 18:13you've got nothing left. So, you know, help isn't just
- 18:17about dependence, it's about interdependence.
- 18:21And a lot of trauma survivors, they don't ask for help because
- 18:25they feel like, well, if I do that, I'm dependent on that
- 18:28other person. And that's not the way healthy
- 18:31relationships work. Healthy relationships thrive
- 18:34when there's both people that are giving and receiving and the
- 18:38flow goes both ways in the relationship.
- 18:41So help isn't a dirty word. It's not a four letter.
- 18:45Well, it is a four letter word actually, but it's not the four
- 18:48letter word I was thinking of. Sorry.
- 18:52Sometimes I think I'm funny when I'm really not.
- 18:55But it is a four letter word, but it's not the one I was going
- 18:58to going to say. But help is not a dirty word and
- 19:01it shouldn't be. And it shouldn't be a word of
- 19:04last resort in your life or in your relationships.
- 19:08OK #3 The third word that can be so difficult for trauma
- 19:13survivors to say in their relationship is sorry.
- 19:19And this comes a couple of different ways. 1 is that sorry
- 19:24can be too often. It can be apologizing or over
- 19:28apologizing because actually what you've learned is this is
- 19:32how you keep the peace. And so being just saying you're
- 19:36sorry immediately doesn't really know what you're sorry about,
- 19:40but you're just don't want your partner to get upset.
- 19:42So that can be one way that sorry can be difficult for
- 19:46people because it's not really a true apology.
- 19:49Really. It's more of an attempt by an
- 19:52individual not to cause an argument, not for for their
- 19:57partner not to get upset for this thing, not to escalate into
- 20:01an argument or a fight. And so sorry really comes about
- 20:05appeasement, and it really is about a an attempt to.
- 20:12Avoid any rough or difficult or strong emotions that might
- 20:18emerge out of that conversation. So sorry sometimes for the over
- 20:23apologizer. Apologizer is because it's an
- 20:26avoidant tactic. Now, on the other hand, you can
- 20:30have people that never say sorry or rarely ever, because for
- 20:35them, apologizing can trigger shame and it can trigger the
- 20:39fear of being bad. So instead of repairing, instead
- 20:44of apologizing, they just shut down and get defensive.
- 20:48Or they may just move on, sweep it under the rug.
- 20:52So I, I can't tell you the number of times I, I've, you
- 20:55know, been with a, with couples and asking, you know, do you
- 21:00come back and repair this? And we've, I've done many
- 21:02podcasts on repair, so you can go back and listen to those
- 21:05anytime you want because I think that's such a huge, huge piece
- 21:10of being able to work through trauma is learning how to repair
- 21:13disruptions and ruptures in a relationship.
- 21:16But I see this a lot where one person will never apologize now
- 21:20they'll soften, they'll come back and they'll make repair
- 21:23attempts. Meaning that what they'll do is
- 21:25they'll come back and they'll start talking to their partner
- 21:28again and they'll use a softer tone or they'll stop talking to
- 21:32their partner again in ways that kind of is a reset.
- 21:36But it's never really coming back to the issue at hand or
- 21:40never really taking responsibility for their role in
- 21:44what happened. And so over apologizers can
- 21:47minimize their worth and actually confuses the partner,
- 21:51where as a never apologizing actually prevents repair and it
- 21:57actually erodes trust over time because the person never comes
- 22:02back and says, you know, I got I got so emotional there.
- 22:06I, I flipped my lid, I popped out of the window, I went into
- 22:10fight or flight. And man, I'm sorry.
- 22:12I was wrong for that. You were just trying to
- 22:14communicate something and clearly I got triggered and and
- 22:18that's on me. That's not on you.
- 22:20And so I'm sorry I raised my voice.
- 22:22I'm sorry I got defensive. I'm, I'm sorry maybe for the
- 22:26things I said when I, I didn't mean them, whatever that might
- 22:30be. Being able to come back and
- 22:32apologize is crucial to being able to go back into the
- 22:36original subject matter and trying to actually get some some
- 22:40kind of closure on it, some kind of understanding and also being
- 22:44able to understand why it escalated in the first place.
- 22:48Now, conversely, the over apologizer, they need to stop
- 22:53using apology as a way to avoid what their partner might be
- 22:57feeling or might say in the relationship.
- 23:00So they don't need to walk on egg shells.
- 23:03They need to let their partner have their feelings and they
- 23:06need to be able to tolerate those feelings without
- 23:08minimizing dismissing them or over apologizing as as an
- 23:13avoidant, A tactic. So this is really important as
- 23:17well. You know, sorry should be about
- 23:21accountability, not survival, right?
- 23:25And so not saying you're sorry ever or over apologizing always
- 23:31our survival tactics. There are ways your bodies learn
- 23:35to keep the peace or to prevent from going into shame or feeling
- 23:40bad as a person because you were you were shamed in the past or
- 23:46you grew up in an environment where it nobody ever apologized
- 23:50because they couldn't tolerate in any way being wrong.
- 23:53I see this a lot with my my adults of of immature parents
- 24:00right where they had a parent that never apologized, never
- 24:04took accountability for the way they handled something.
- 24:07And so it's almost a learned behavior in that response.
- 24:10So how do we work on this? How do we work on apologizing or
- 24:14saying sorry? Well, first of all, if you over
- 24:17apologize, stop and pause and ask yourself, am I actually
- 24:22responsible here? Or am I just doing this to avoid
- 24:26any escalation or uncomfortable emotions either in myself or my
- 24:31partner? Because more often than not,
- 24:33this is an avoidant tactic or you're just saying sorry because
- 24:37you don't want your partner to to get upset or yell or
- 24:41whatever. Now, if you struggle to
- 24:44apologize in the 1st place, maybe try writing it down first.
- 24:49Maybe send your partner a written note, a text as a way to
- 24:53try to connect so that maybe that can try trade some of the
- 24:58the shame that that would you, that would, it would bring up
- 25:01for you and in a way that feels a little more safe.
- 25:06But it's really important to be able to take accountability for
- 25:09your role in what happens. It's not enough to say, well, I
- 25:13wouldn't get so angry. Well, I would apologize if or
- 25:16but you can't, you can't look outside yourself and blame other
- 25:21people for the way you respond. You've got to be able to take
- 25:25accountability for the way you respond.
- 25:27It's there's real behavior there.
- 25:29There's real lack of accountability and not being
- 25:33able to say you're sorry for your role in something is an
- 25:38example of that. Now, that doesn't mean you're
- 25:40responsible for everything. And I think sometimes for the
- 25:44person that that never apologized, apologizes.
- 25:48I think that's often times where they take it or what it feels
- 25:51like, well, if I say I'm sorry, that it means I'm sorry for
- 25:54everything. No, it doesn't.
- 25:55You're just sorry for you. You're just sorry for how you
- 25:59handle it. You're not sorry for the way
- 26:01your partner handled it. You didn't force them to handle
- 26:04it in a certain way, but you have to take accountability for
- 26:07the way that you show up and the way that you might not say sorry
- 26:14in your relationships. So we've looked at three small
- 26:19but powerful words today, no help and sorry.
- 26:24And every one of these sort of touches the core of of trauma.
- 26:28Healing boundaries isn't about no.
- 26:32Help is about vulnerability and sorry is about accountability.
- 26:37Let me say that again because I think that's really important
- 26:39when we talk about it in our relationships.
- 26:42No is about being able to set boundaries for yourself.
- 26:46Help is about making yourself vulnerable enough that you're
- 26:49reaching out to others. And sorry is about
- 26:53accountability in your relationships.
- 26:56And, and here's the truth. We all struggle with these
- 26:59words, but it doesn't mean that you're broken.
- 27:03It means that you've adapted in order to survive.
- 27:07And I emphasize this over and over and over.
- 27:10If you struggle with these 3 words, it's not because you're
- 27:13broken as a person, it's because your body has learned to adapt
- 27:18to an adverse environment and you've adapted because that's
- 27:21what human beings do. We adapt to survive.
- 27:24And so these are survival strategies for you.
- 27:27But now, now you have a chance to practice something new.
- 27:31So start small and start in a relatively Safeway.
- 27:37All right, Thank you so much for listening again.
- 27:40I can't believe this is my 100th podcast.
- 27:44Reach out to me, let me know what you like.
- 27:46Let me know what you want to hear more of.
- 27:48Until then, I'm Tom Phillip, reminding you to stay grounded,
- 27:51clear and connected.