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Furness Show 10-7: Hugh Millen, Alex Brink, Mariners Delay · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: six thirty seven o'clock, drop of the puck right here
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  Speaker 2: in your home for the krack of night three point
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  Speaker 2: three kJ r F M Hugh Millon standing by.
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  Speaker 1: here's Hugh with Ian Furness on Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 3: All right, here we go, hardcore football. Hugh Millon and oh.
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  Speaker 2: Boy, day or two after this thing, it'll still have a
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  Speaker 2: ton of stuff. It's odd that you have a game
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  Speaker 2: that's as entertaining as we had on Sunday with the
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  Speaker 2: Buccaneers and as high scoring as it is, and I
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  Speaker 2: feel like you there are like a zillion things to
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  Speaker 2: hit on and.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna do all a lot going on in that game,
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  Speaker 3: for sure, we're gonna do all of that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to the defense and Mike McDonald taking
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  Speaker 2: responsibility and all that in a second, because I feel
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  Speaker 2: like there's more meat on the bone and more to
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  Speaker 2: discuss defensively, if I can. I want to start with
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  Speaker 2: the offense, and I'll go chronological in a couple plays
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk about. Let me start with the
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  Speaker 2: one that was just for us in the press box
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday. Hugh was maybe the biggest head scratch. We'll
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  Speaker 2: get to the final play in a minute, but the
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  Speaker 2: biggest head scratcher I've seen in a while. Jalen Milroll
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  Speaker 2: comes in for his one play and he has a
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  Speaker 2: pitch that's back behind Ken Walker fumble boom. At the time,
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  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, I believe, was seven for eight passing Seahawk
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  Speaker 2: offense was marching. They bring Milroe in Milroe for I
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  Speaker 2: believe all his snaps this season, Hugh, he's either he's
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  Speaker 2: either run or handed off. Never been a threat of
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  Speaker 2: a pass, which I don't know if I can see
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  Speaker 2: that in the press box. I'm assuming that the opposing
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  Speaker 2: team does. And but that wasn't the problem necessarily as
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  Speaker 2: much as the pitch. But just can you, hardcore football wise,
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  Speaker 2: walk us through what they were trying to do. They're
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  Speaker 2: trying to use these mill Row packages and it just
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  Speaker 2: hasn't worked.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, on that play, they're running a speed option and
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  Speaker 5: I think even just in its structure, there's a lot
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  Speaker 5: of elements to that play that don't make sense to me.
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  Speaker 5: First of all, just option football involves you have the
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  Speaker 5: n man on the line of scrimmage that you're optioning,
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  Speaker 5: and you're leaving him unblocked so that when you get
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  Speaker 5: up and you attack him in his face, he's got
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  Speaker 5: to honor you as a running threat. And then you
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  Speaker 5: pitch out at the appropriate time and and so it's
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  Speaker 5: like the quarterback in essence is blocking that player and
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  Speaker 5: oftentimes it be it can be a great player you
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  Speaker 5: just option off of him right. So so if you
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  Speaker 5: look at the blocking structure, nobody was unblocked. They had
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  Speaker 5: a hat on a hat for everybody as if they
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  Speaker 5: were running outside zone. Now, they did have a little
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  Speaker 5: mini crackback where Drek Young, who's a physical wide receiver,
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  Speaker 5: was blocking on the end. He missed that block the
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  Speaker 5: defensive end went over the top and was actually the
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  Speaker 5: guy to create the problem. So so you have you
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  Speaker 5: had nobody option to option off of. You were in
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  Speaker 5: the pistol, and so that means Canine was behind as
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  Speaker 5: opposed to sidecar relationship, and so Canine he's got a
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  Speaker 5: whole ass to get into the forty five degree relationship,
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  Speaker 5: which he never really did. And so it wasn't really
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  Speaker 5: in Milroe's line of vision. Was it was kind of
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  Speaker 5: back a little bit more. It was to his offhand.
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  Speaker 5: He's a right handed quarterback, non dominant hand, and to me,
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  Speaker 5: the angles when you run to the tight end side,
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  Speaker 5: that the the guy that you would option off. Again,
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  Speaker 5: they didn't even option off anybody, but it widens him
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  Speaker 5: from the formation. If you just if you just took
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  Speaker 5: a protractor and you write this stuff, and I calculated
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  Speaker 5: this when the Huskies had that ill fated play against
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  Speaker 5: the Cougars a year ago, which you.
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  Speaker 3: Loved about it.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, if you were in purpose, uh and
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  Speaker 5: the angles when you have a tight end out there
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  Speaker 5: that widens out the the defensive end. He's in a
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  Speaker 5: nine technique, So you're you're you're attacking a guy, but
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  Speaker 5: you're doing it at such a flat angle that you
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  Speaker 5: don't get the relationship that the separation. So to me,
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  Speaker 5: I think you it's better to run to an open edge,
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  Speaker 5: meaning no tight end. So the guy just outside the
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  Speaker 5: tackle in the sea gap, you attack him his inside
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  Speaker 5: armpit and and and then you hold him and then
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  Speaker 5: you pitch it out. So none of that stuff was
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  Speaker 5: present on the play. And so the confluence of all
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  Speaker 5: those points to me, uh, you know, it just it
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  Speaker 5: was a doom play to begin with. I mean, I
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  Speaker 5: I like, you know, the irony in this is I
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  Speaker 5: wasn't against jedfish going into the boundary, but I like
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  Speaker 5: to do it away. I like to uh set send
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  Speaker 5: the trips to the field and see and and if
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  Speaker 5: they really overload to the field, like like they running
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  Speaker 5: over front where they're shading to the strong side and
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  Speaker 5: the middle linebackers may be pushing to the three receiver
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  Speaker 5: side a little bit too much, and maybe the free
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  Speaker 5: safety instead of being on the HASH, he's in the
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  Speaker 5: middle field favoring the three receiver side. If you've got
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  Speaker 5: a defense, and you'll see this, if you've got a
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  Speaker 5: defense that is favoring the uh, the the formation strength
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  Speaker 5: and and field strength. Again, if you're on the right,
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  Speaker 5: on the right hash, get everybody, get the defense over
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  Speaker 5: to the field. Now running into the boundary, even the
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  Speaker 5: college boundary, you have those angles because the quarterback is
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  Speaker 5: going downhill on an open edge. None of that happened
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  Speaker 5: on Sunday. And so now what we're left with. Jalen
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  Speaker 5: Miroe has played three plays. The success formula the analytics
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  Speaker 5: use is forty the needed yards on first down, sixty
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  Speaker 5: percent of the needed yards on second down, and all
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  Speaker 5: the needed yards on third or fourth down. So we've
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  Speaker 5: got a first and ten for three yards, which, by
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  Speaker 5: the way, let me back up for forty nine er game,
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  Speaker 5: second and six for one yard. Unsuccessful play. And by
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  Speaker 5: the way, you punted two plays later, so it took
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  Speaker 5: you out of a nice rhythm. First and twenty that
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  Speaker 5: for three yards, and you say, well, first and twenty
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  Speaker 5: is tough. Guess what first and twenty you should have
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  Speaker 5: got more than three yards on a quarterback draw. Hell,
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  Speaker 5: even if it was first in ten three yards isn't
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  Speaker 5: isn't a success? So that you're over to and then
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  Speaker 5: going going into the game and then obviously you don't
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  Speaker 5: get a success. So we're five weeks into this, we
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  Speaker 5: don't have a single successful play from Jalen Milroe. When
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  Speaker 5: when you think about what we were talking about when
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  Speaker 5: he was drafted, Uh, is he gonna threaten Sam Donald
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  Speaker 5: like the way that Russell Wilson did with Matt flann
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  Speaker 5: Is he you know, is he gonna at least be
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  Speaker 5: the backup? Are you gonna have all these packages for him?
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  Speaker 5: Like I think there was a lot of visions of
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  Speaker 5: sugar plum fairies dancing in all of our heads about
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  Speaker 5: what Milroe would provide. Maybe he will in the future. Clearly,
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  Speaker 5: to date there's been a big, big nothing berger really well,
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  Speaker 5: and Hugh, let me let me pick that up for
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  Speaker 5: a second, because.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, a god, when he's drafted on draft night,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you or me or any of us
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  Speaker 2: talking about him really threatening Donald. But we did do
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  Speaker 2: all the thing you just said, though, right, like this
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  Speaker 2: is a guy that's hey, what kind of package can
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  Speaker 2: you run with him? Especially red zone packages? And maybe
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  Speaker 2: it was because we're fresh off red zone Gino Smith,
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  Speaker 2: and red zone Geno Smith is basically just the Well,
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  Speaker 2: if you watch the NBA Sel the Raiders game yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: you know what red zone Geno Smith is.
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  Speaker 3: It's translated to Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's nothing good, like this is something they can
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  Speaker 2: use and or you know, I mean, hey, whatever the
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  Speaker 2: package is. As you're describing the three plays he's run,
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  Speaker 2: and especially as you just broke down so well this
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  Speaker 2: play on Sunday against the Bucks, Hugh, are they even
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  Speaker 2: putting him in a position to succeed?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think that Okay, they've run a quarterback draw, uh,
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  Speaker 5: and they they ran a kind of a red keep
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  Speaker 5: up the middle. We only got three plays, so they tried.
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  Speaker 5: You know, to me, it's it's no better than a
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  Speaker 5: wildcat if you remember that formation right when come in. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: because as as you accurately point out that he hasn't
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  Speaker 5: yet thrown the so there's not a threat to throw it.
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  Speaker 5: And I think as well as Sam Darnold is playing, Uh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's not like you say well, we need
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  Speaker 5: you know, we need a jumpstart or something.
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  Speaker 3: I think that it was a combination.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe people kind of said, ah, well, you've got the
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  Speaker 5: the tuss push, all the you know, the short yardage package.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe Jalen Millroe will be our third and one specialist,
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  Speaker 5: you know, because of his his dynamic athleticism and and
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  Speaker 5: it is and I just think at this juncture, the
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  Speaker 5: question do I think it was worth a third round pick?
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  Speaker 5: I said, I said yes, because of the of the
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  Speaker 5: potential ceiling that if he hits, if a quarterback hits
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  Speaker 5: and and some other things come together for him, then
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  Speaker 5: obviously you know, it's it's franchise altering. And and and
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  Speaker 5: yet the big challenge was going to be based on
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  Speaker 5: and I looked at all of his Alabama tape, I
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  Speaker 5: mean all of his Alabama tape, and I said, the
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  Speaker 5: thing that he he needs the most help with is
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  Speaker 5: going to be the thing that's the hardest, you know,
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  Speaker 5: throwing to the right guy at the right time accurately.
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  Speaker 5: That's the essence of quarterback and the most that's the
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  Speaker 5: non negotiable part, you know. And and so uh, you
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  Speaker 5: know that still remains and it really comes down to Ian.
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  Speaker 5: It Is he gonna be more Anthony Richardson or is
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  Speaker 5: he gonna be more Jalen Hurts? Yeah, there there's there's
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  Speaker 5: act attributes to his game that parallel each of those
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  Speaker 5: to some degree. The Seahawks were obviously hoping for more
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  Speaker 5: of a Jalen Hurts trajectory.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: Time will tell, but I think I think every Seahawks
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  Speaker 5: fan expected something a little bit more to date than
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  Speaker 5: what we've seen from Milroe. And uh and and and
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  Speaker 5: we'll we'll move on.
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  Speaker 2: Our core football, humil and all right, we'll stay to
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  Speaker 2: the offense before we switch the other side of the football.
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  Speaker 2: Tampa ties the game thirty five thirty five on a
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  Speaker 2: five play, seventy yard drive. I mean, as I mean
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  Speaker 2: this back and forth, I mean, who had the ball last?
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  Speaker 2: Was gonna win this game? Is what it felt like.
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  Speaker 2: And Seattle felt like they're gonna have the ball lefts you.
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  Speaker 2: They get the ball with one aweight to go, they've
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  Speaker 2: got one to all three timeouts left, and here we go.
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  Speaker 2: First intend at the Seattle twenty three, Sam Donald finds
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  Speaker 2: Cooper Cup who gets out of bounds for a nine
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  Speaker 2: yard gain. It's second and one at the Seattle thirty two.
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  Speaker 2: Clock is stopped and again you've got three timeouts left,
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  Speaker 2: fifty eight seconds to go, and Sam Donald throws a
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  Speaker 2: short pass middle for Cooper Cup. It goes off of
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  Speaker 2: a helmet. Levante David intercepts it. He older than you
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  Speaker 2: and I combined, but he made the interception. Good for
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  Speaker 2: him and at the Seattle thirty five and effectively that
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  Speaker 2: was gonna be the ball game. They're gonna kick a
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  Speaker 2: field goal. My question to you is this. I think
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  Speaker 2: Trent Green said on the broadcast, well, you know, went
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  Speaker 2: off his helmet, and even McDonald said, well, I got
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  Speaker 2: to look at the tape it kind of went off
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  Speaker 2: his helmet. And I'm thinking to myself, first of all,
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  Speaker 2: where's Hugh Mill And I need a harcop breakdown of
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  Speaker 2: this because two things come to mind. You one of
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  Speaker 2: them you might just tell me I'm a fool that
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  Speaker 2: the first part is why are you throwing the ball
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  Speaker 2: in the mash pit in the middle of the field.
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  Speaker 2: And on a second and one, when you have all
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  Speaker 2: that time and all you can do whatever you want
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to throwing it there. Help run the ball,
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  Speaker 2: take a time out, spike at whatever, but make sure
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  Speaker 2: you end with the ball in your hands, as opposed
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  Speaker 2: to if you throw it in complete, Hugh, like like
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  Speaker 2: say it's incomplete somewhere else and the clock stops, and
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  Speaker 2: then it's third and one and they stuff you. Well,
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  Speaker 2: now you're punting the ball and you don't have the
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  Speaker 2: ball in your hand. I just none of that made
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  Speaker 2: sense to me. But more importantly, the play like Trent Green, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I went off a helmet. I need more than that, Hugh,
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  Speaker 2: What the hell happened there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: And I remember Levonte David playman playing in Husky Stadium
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  Speaker 5: against Jake Locker and then a Bowl game that year.
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  Speaker 5: You've been around, He's been a while for him. So okay,
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  Speaker 5: So let's and credit Sam Darnold. He took a lot
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  Speaker 5: of accountability, says, I could have changed the protection. I
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  Speaker 5: could have thrown it out there to uh, to Tory
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  Speaker 5: Horton to his right.
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  Speaker 3: So so as.
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  Speaker 5: You look look at it pre snap, I'm let's just
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  Speaker 5: be in the quarterback meeting room. They have four the
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  Speaker 5: Buccaneers have four down linemen, so you always assume that
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  Speaker 5: they are are going to rush, but clearly they can
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  Speaker 5: drop out as well. But but then you have at
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  Speaker 5: the second layer, the linebacker and safety level you have,
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  Speaker 5: you have four as well, So you got eight potential
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  Speaker 5: blitzers in the box because you have a squeeze formation.
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  Speaker 3: This is part of of the UH.
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  Speaker 5: The Kyle Shanahan and Clint Kobiac kind of trees that
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  Speaker 5: you have a lot of condensed formations with receivers close
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  Speaker 5: to the formation. So so Winfield is out there on
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  Speaker 5: the slot because Cooper cup is mirror just a few
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  Speaker 5: feet to the left of cross the left tackle.
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  Speaker 3: Got me yep.
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  Speaker 5: So if you're if you're talking protection, you got eleven
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  Speaker 5: personnel a tight end. The way that play is called,
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  Speaker 5: the center is going to go right and the running
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  Speaker 5: backs is going to go left. So you got three
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  Speaker 5: pass blockers to one side and three to the other.
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  Speaker 5: So as a quarterback, you say, I'm picked up if
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  Speaker 5: they bring three either side. I'm only hot if they
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  Speaker 5: bring four to either side. Now they ended up. I'm gesturing.
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  Speaker 5: My hand doesn't help you, but I'm I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 5: from Sam Darnold's perspective. So from my left, Okay, could
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  Speaker 5: Winfield come? If I think that's gonna happen, I can
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  Speaker 5: leave Sharbonnaise on my left. I can take sundel the center,
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  Speaker 5: and I can call a protection where both the center
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  Speaker 5: and the running back go left. So now I'm picking
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  Speaker 5: up four to the left, but I'm only picking up
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  Speaker 5: two to the right. What did I say to begin with?
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  Speaker 5: The base protection is three to the right, three to
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  Speaker 5: left right. If I redirect to the left, I turn
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  Speaker 5: it to four to four and two. Pretty simple math, right,
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  Speaker 5: But to it was basically a mirrored formation. It was
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  Speaker 5: four to the left potential rushers and four to the right.
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  Speaker 5: So what if he sends the center in the and
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  Speaker 5: the back to the left and they rush, they still
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  Speaker 5: have the potential. They could have rushed three from the
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  Speaker 5: right side, which would have put you in a hot
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  Speaker 5: or four. So it's kind of a you know, it's
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  Speaker 5: a good disguise and you know, trying to say, well,
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  Speaker 5: which of these overloads on either side can happen? You know,
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  Speaker 5: like they guess wrong, and so it's three three to three.
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  Speaker 5: Winfield is unblocked. Now, there's a common axiom in in
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  Speaker 5: for quarterbacks in blitz pick up, you want to throw
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  Speaker 5: into the blitz. If there's an unblocked guy. You don't
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  Speaker 5: want to turn your back to one. You want to
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  Speaker 5: throw into him, so you aware like and and and
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  Speaker 5: then the hot is there. So Cup was coming out
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  Speaker 5: over the middle and doing some kind of very ambiguous,
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  Speaker 5: weird like stop over the middle, but then gained. I
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: don't like what Cup was doing whatsoever, in part because
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Levonte David you mentioned, who gets the interception. He aligned
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: over the B gap that's between the gard and the
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: tackle to Sam Donald's right, so he was mugging up
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: as a potential blitzer. And then he rushes out and
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: he constitutes what's called the curl flat defender, the outside
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: shallow underneath defender to Donald's left. So he's running at Cup.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: You gotta kind of gotta play man principles within his
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: zone because it's three deep, three under zone, but three
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: under he can't really spot drop. So David is going
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: to hunt up what's called number two, which is Cup
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: in the slot, counting outside in number one outside number two.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: So David is honting is kind of playing man concepts
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: within his own with Cup. He grabs Cup. It should
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: have been defensive holding, and but I don't know why Cup,
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: knowing it was a blitz, would have tried to continue
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: to gain upfield.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: He should have.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: He should have turned around and or or crossed David's
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: face or something other than he did, but he did
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: get grabbed. So in the meantime all this happened the
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: the you know, there's an unblocked defender and ball's got
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: to come out. And so what Donald ultimately was trying
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: to do is he's looking. You know, he's following the axiom,
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: what did we say, you got to throw into the pressure.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: If you're getting four a week, meaning four from my
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: left side, I want to throw to the left side.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: The only guy to throw was Cup and so he's like.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Dude, what are you doing?
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: And then he and then ultimately he says, well, I'm
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: gonna dirt this ball. Well, when he goes to dirt it,
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: it hits off the helmet at Kareem's to Levonte David,
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: just bad luck now, he he Donald said, I could
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: have thrown it out there to uh Tory Horton.
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Tory Horton was on the right side and he was
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: running a five step speed out. And the reason I
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: distinguished you said, well, why would you say five step?
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: Why is that relevant? If it was a Usually you
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: have the inside leg forward and it's an even steps,
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: so you can do a two step, you can do
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: a four steps, a six step, a six it if
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: if you would never ever do a hot blitz. If
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: unuy black guy, you would not throw a six step,
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: you might throw a four You certainly would throw a
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: two two step, meaning I'm gonna turn my back to
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: the the defender. And and remember now as we're talking
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: about this, this this axiom for quarterbacks, don't throw uh
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: to the opposite side of the blitz. Remember the forty
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: nine er game. Now it wasn't a blitz, but if
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: you can connect with the final fumble by Donald when
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Abe Lucas got forklifted and and and uh and bos
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: you know had the game winning play. Ye, the if
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: you look at the angle of where Donald was vision
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: was he's throwing in the flat to the left sideline.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: Got me Ye, Lucas is obviously the right tackle. So
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: if you just say his field of vision, darnold. If
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: he's throwing the ball all the way over the left sideline,
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: uh uh, you know, within a few yards of the sideline.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: If if if there's action behind him to his right,
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: he's going to throw. He's not going to be protecting
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: the football like a running back. He's got he's just
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: holding it with one hand about to throw it right,
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: so the fumble happens. Why somebody would blame him for
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: the fumble, I have no idea why. But but uh uh,
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: but but if you can remember that what was he doing.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: He was throwing to the opposite direction of the pressure,
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: even though it wasn't a blitz. So now if he
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: would have done the same thing and thrown to Horton.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: And now we're sitting in a quarterback meeting room and
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: iamous quarterback coach, I'm saying, okay, Sam, you know we
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: had four week right and and we had a Sharbonne who,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: by the way, fundamentally Sarboney uh lost that block because
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: you got to have the head on the inside, not
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: the outside. He got to use your left shoulder, even
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: though you want to use your right shoulder because you're
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: right handed probably I'm assuming Sardenay's right handed, use your
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: left shoulder because that keeps your head in the hole
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: and it keeps the the guy that you're blocking away
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: from the quarterback.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Who's in the middle.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: So fundamentals like what shoulder you use are very important
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: because that that was a at least a contributing factor
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: charbonnay and poor fundamentals. But look, getting back to now
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: we're we're quarterback coaching Sam Darnald. All right, Sam, what
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: are you seeing here?
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: And then he'd explain and he says, okay, so you
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: know we're four a week, right, yep? Now are we
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: protected there? We didn't get the center that way, did
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: we know? So okay, So that means we got a
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: free runner to our left right, So why did you
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: throw to the right because you just got you just
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: got hit and it looks a lot like the San
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: Francisco play, but just to the opposite side, like right.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: And so even though Donald's kind of falling on the sword, now,
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: if it's.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: A two step out route, he could he could.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: Come back and say, look, I know the rule, but
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: I threw it quick, and I'd be like, okay, as
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: long as you knew that there was a free runner
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: that you left and you threw it to the right.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: What about a four step?
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Okay? Can you go one step and throw? Yeah?
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Probably with the four step, but now it is a
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: five step, which again is not common. More teams do
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: even numbers that because the inside leg is forward. So
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: now a five step if you're sitting there going structurally.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: Can I throw to the right on a five step
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: out route when I have a totally unblocked defensive back,
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: veteran defensive back coming to my blind side who can
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: smoke me and get a fumble scooping score.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: This is where quarterbacks say, we got to play the percentages.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: And so when you have these rules like don't throw
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: away from the blitz, it's because enough offensive coordinators like
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: Mike Holmgren have been I don't use him because he
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: probably already had always had.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: It right, you know.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: But but you know people, you know, luminaries of the
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: game haven't been burned at least once, and they say, Okay,
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: from now on, we're not We're not throwing away from
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: the blitz and taking our eyes off the blitz. We're
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: gonna throw into the blitz. Right, So that at any rate,
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: that's I don't I think it's a gray area. Whether
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: he could have thrown a five step it was certainly
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: wide open. How how how the corner? So if he
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: had just gone one, two and then smoked it early
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: with anticipation, I would have said that's good quarterbacking. So
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: I kind of see why he said that, but that
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: would have been again him going having the impulse based
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: on the picture to go away from a very hardened rule,
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: which is don't throw away from the side of the
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: blitz juice was coming from the left.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Did you real fast because I want to get to
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the defense. Did you like the play call? Did you
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: like the thought of doing that particular play as opposed
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: to running it?
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he went he second and one. I mean,
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: you know you're under a minute, you still gotta Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: I don't want to say you can't throw the ball.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: I mean it's second Put it this way. You're trusting
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: your quarterback that it's second and one. If if something's dirty,
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: just don't take a sack. Like we can. We can
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: live with what We'll be third and one. We're in
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: four down territories, we're under a minute. Obviously we're on
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: four down too, So I got no problem uh throwing
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: the football whatsoever in that situation. Okay, I mean I
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: don't know, Am I missing something?
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: No, I don't know.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: What I said is like, like, here's the thing, Like
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: it's second and one, you've got three time outs to
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: get a minute left, and if you don't get the
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: first down, like say, it's an incomplete pass there, and
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: then they stuff you on third On third down, you
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: gotta punt the ball. I mean, you're tied game TI
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: game at that point. You gotta punt the ball. And
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: so you're gonna give them the ball back you even
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: stop them at all. I guess that was like.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Question, that's true, you know, on the on these notes,
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: I just assumed that I would remember that it was tie.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: You're right, So yeah, yeah, Okay, that changes things.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Doesn't doesn't that?
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Because I guess that was my thought. It's like, you
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: have to finish the game with the ball in your hands.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: You have to and then take your chances in overtime
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: that maybe en force a field goal. And yeah, you know,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I guess I guess that was my only thought.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: And I think, you know, I just think they felt like, yeah,
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: they could get a complete.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: And and like you said, he was and from your standpoint,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: he was trying to spike the ball kind of or
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: trying to just just ground it, kind of throw it
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: in the ground and hit the helmet and.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: You know what the coaches copy, which I I get,
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: you know, and I watched the end zone. I literally frozen,
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: went frame by frame, like how it came off his hand,
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: what what is the direction that it was going? Now
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: there's only a few frames between his hand and when
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: the football hit the helmet of the of the buccaneer
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: defensive linemanch But I you know, I'm almost like in
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: my pencil on my computer monitor saying, okay, this is
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: the angle was going that, you know, and then at
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: cream is like you know, playing pool billiards, right like
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: you hit it, and you know that an angle of
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: the incident ray and you know the reflection ray. There's
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: all that crap. But you're like, you're looking, you're saying, well,
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: the ball definitely changed his course, not a lot, not significantly,
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: but it changed it enough that it's my estimation that
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: had it not hit the helmet, it would have just.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Landed, you know.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Near the feet of cup. Okay, you know, in his direction,
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: and that not be a grounding point ball.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: There you go, Part one of hardcore football humuli and
• 26:33
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• 26:38
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• 26:39
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• 26:43
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• 27:21
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• 27:31
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• 27:35
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• 27:36
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• 27:40
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• 27:43
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, don't even get me started.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I'm watching some video right now on FS one, and
• 27:51
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• 27:54
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• 27:56
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• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Really shocking.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: It's odd because when they have showed video of the field,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like it's heavy rain. But I think
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: that they're also it feels and this benefits the Mariners
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: because we know how bad they are when a game
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: starts and restarts.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: They're bad.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I think that they don't want to start a game
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: and then have to stop it restart it again. So
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: that's kind of the impression you get. But like, there
• 28:21
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• 28:24
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• 28:27
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• 28:29
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• 28:31
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• 28:35
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• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Time for a week we visit with the Coogs minus
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: m Canaday. He's got some stuff going on. His wife's competing.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: I think in a bodybuilding competition, she's just an absolute stud.
• 30:08
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• 30:10
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• 30:14
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• 30:17
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• 30:24
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• 30:25
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• 30:26
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to it before we get to
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Mississippi State top five team and everything else going on
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: the challenge this week, Let's look back. I'm gonna ask
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: you a bigger picture question because it's been a while
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: since the Colorado State game, but the San Diego State
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: win looks better by the day.
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: North Texas finally lost a game, but have been impressed
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: of all year. You know, you play the Huskies close
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: through three quarters, uh, and then and then you go
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: and just dominate Colorado State. Who and what is this
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Washington State team?
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: I think I think they're getting better in all honestly,
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: and I think there there's very there's been a very
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: clear shift right with zebech House at the helm, you know,
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: playing quarterback, and you know whether that is you know,
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: skill set wise or just mentality. I mean, I think
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: that's a big part of it. And to your point
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: about really big picture, I mean, you know, a week
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: wanting if out is what it is. I think that
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: it was a good football team in general. But you
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: know that's just you know, he starts slow, Saty, A
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: thing looks great North Texas. You know you're on the road.
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: He turn the ball over. It's kind of the nature
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: of football against a good football team, so it looks
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: way worse than probably it could have been. You mentioned
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: you dub game and then a good win on the
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: road at Colorado State. This team has set themselves up,
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: you know, regardless of what the next two weeks look
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: like with Ole Miss and Virginia, this smith set themselves
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: up heading into the back half of this season. I
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: think to accomplish some goals that everybody from the outside
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: would look and say, BOYD, kudos to Jimmy Rodgers and
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: this group if they're able to pull it off.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I think to Alex that one of the things that
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I thought going into this season and just kind of
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: from the outside looking in as a fan and everything else,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: is and I know that there's people and especially you
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: know I'm sure Rogers wouldn't admit this publicly and people
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: in the program, but if we're being honest, not only
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: is it year one of a new coaching staff. That's
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: and that first of all comes into play because year
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: one of a coaching staff in today's college football, you're
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: building something. It's also a year the last year of
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: this kind of uncertainty. We know next year they're in
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: a conference. I think, and I don't know, maybe you disagree,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: but I think the path to do some special things
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: in the new PAC twelve, like getting this CFP and
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: getting that group of five bid is far easier than
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: it would be for Wazoo if they were like saying
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: a big ten or something like that. So to me,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: it's not about this year. It's about building the culture,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: building the program, letting Jimmy, you know, get his footprint,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: his fingerprints on this thing and building it up. And
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: while there will be some frustrations along the way and
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: some rod bumps, and we certainly saw that down in
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Texas and the fourth quarter with Washington, I'm more like, hey,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: and you know me, Alex, I'm not always last out full,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I'm a crazy ass fan, but I look, I think
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: this is about building it for the next few years
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: down the road.
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel the same way. And there's a couple
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: of things I really like. Right when you kind of
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: peel back after five weeks and the bye week, is that,
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: you know, the North Texas point total and then kind
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: of the Husky point total. I don't think really tells
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: the full story about the defense. Like I think defensively,
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: it's a really good scheme that's coached really well and
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: really hard, and they really fly around, and so I'm
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: excited about kind of that brand of football defensively, and
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: then offensively, I mean, when you got the right guy
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: pulling the trigger, Damy Froynd does a really nice job
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: being creative and finding ways to get playmakers the ball.
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: And I think as they build an offensive line and
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: they get better at at that piece of it, They've
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: got some young running backs in the stable, you know,
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: I think that system offensively can win, and to your point,
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: win in this kind of future path twelve That and
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: I said this last year with Jay kickered and kind
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: of that whole situation was it didn't it doesn't really
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: matter for Washington State how it works. They just need
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: to win, right, win a lot of games. If you
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: win a lot of games, you're in the national conversation
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: no matter what league you're in, right, whether you're a
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: group of five team or four team, it doesn't matter.
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: Like the college football currently is always going to benefit
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: the teams that are winning, both from the attention from
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: the outside and the potential of being in an expanded playoffs.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt Alex Alex Springs joining us. There's no
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: doubt that Zeb's you know, has has elevated the offense. Again,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: let's take a step back, bigger picture. Is this an
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: offense that in the future Jackson Potter, when he gets
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: his chance again, can still flourish in because it feels
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: like they want a guy that's pretty mobile.
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think that's true. But I also think
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: again when we think about when where Jackson Potter was good,
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: because there were moments where he was good, right, I
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: mean the stage he was good, Yeah, he had you
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: know that lot, the last drive, you know, really most
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: of the IDO game, I think he was okay, you know,
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: and then it's struggling in North Texas. But he can
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: do a lot of the things that dur aftons Zeby
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: do as far as play action passed, get out of pocket,
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: he could throw in the run. He's athletic enough. Yes,
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: they utilized Zev's legs a little bit more in the
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: run game. But really where Zebby different or has been
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: different than Jackson Potter is that Zebby's willing to step
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: up and move in the pocket and use his legs
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: off schedule, and I think Potter can do that. I mean,
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: he's not gonna, you know, he's not Michael Vick out there,
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: but he'll get you first down. He's just gonna be
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: willing to do that. I think that's one thing that
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: I think Jimmy Rodgers and Danny Froyd had alluded to
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: at one point, was that Jackson Potter just wasn't kind
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: of committing to making plays off schedule, and that was
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: hurting him in the end because he was kind of
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: a statue back in the pocket.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Is Alex Brinks joining us? Listen, let's let's get I've
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: avoided it long enough. Number four team in the country
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: on the road, SEC country a big challenge. I do
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: look at their scores this year and I'm curious. So, okay,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Georgia State, I'll sixty three seven.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: That's fine.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: They played Kentucky. Kentucky played them close. That was in
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Lexington in a seven point games thirty twenty three. Arkansas's
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: a train wreck, fired the coach. They beat them forty
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: one to thirty five. Again one score game. Tulane supposed
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: to be a really good group of five team. They
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: beat them by thirty five, forty five to ten. LSU
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: they beat by five. So listen, they're getting a ton
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: of love. Lane Kiffin's got a great offense, found his quarterback.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: It looks like as well number four team in the country.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: What are you thinking about this game? Because I know
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: a lot of bodybag game and this, this and this.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: I know that players don't think that way. So what
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: do you want? What do you expect out of Saturday?
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: But you know me, and I'm a I'm a glass
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: half full guy, right and so, uh, you know, I
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: look at it like this. I mean, this is a
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: huge challenge right on the road SEC opponent, you know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: really quality football team. I think they're worll coach with
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: Lane Kiffin, you know, but I think they're not as
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: good as they have been in past years. Frankly, and
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: I think that you know, you can look at that roster.
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: I mean it's a talented roster, and there's certain areas
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: that you know they've got They've got quote unquote sec
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: level talent, right, particularly on kind of offensive defensive lines.
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: But you also look at the skill positions right and say,
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: you know, they have a former Washington State wide receiver
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: starting for them to John Striblings. They have a former
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: Washington State defensive back Peagishi getting started for them. They
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: have a Division two quarterback starting for them in uh
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: In Trinidad, Shambliss. Right, So they have guys at the
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: skill positions that are really talented football players, but they're
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: not that far off right as far as recruit you
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: know their recruiting pass or where they came from from
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: Washington State. You know athletes that are on the field
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: to Washington State. So we did this before Ian. We
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: went and played Auburn right when I when I was
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: playing at six, and I came away. Even though we
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: got beat in that game, right, we played really well
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: in the first half, particularly the first quarter. You make
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: some mistakes and it gets away from you. The reality
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: is this washing To State football team, particularly with the
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: guy like Zevi Kaski, has got kind of irrational confidence.
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: They're not going to back down from anybody. And for
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: old myths, this is a really dangerous game, right if
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: the coops are in this game late and they're thinking
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: ahead about the games they have I think at Georgia
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: or against Georgia and the next week. I mean, that
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: can get really tight, really fast. So for Washington State,
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: you gotta play, you gotta play well, you gotta you
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: can't turn the ball over. You got to minimize the
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: explosive plays. But I think personally that illness is not
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: quite as good as maybe their ranking, and I think
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: Washington State's a little better than their record shows, which
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: would lead me to say that this is there's gonna
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: be moments in this game where we're all going to
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: be like, oh, Washington State had a chance.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: In this Yeah, And we've been on I mean we
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: we've been on the field before with those types of schools,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: you know, six with Auburn and I mean bowl games,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: what have you never really looked out of place or
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: out class. A little different now because of the way
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: the college FOOTBA landscape's going. But as you said to me,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: it feels like, hey, get through the first couple series,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe it's it's you got them thinking a
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: little bit keeping it close, don't. You just can't turn
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: the ball over. I mean that's as simple as that.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I hate the cliche and sports of football, but you
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: just can't do that and see and take your chances.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: All right, Alex, you got a zillion miles to get
• 38:51
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  Speaker 2: Thanks buddy, have a great trip, safe travels down there.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week.
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 39:29
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• 41:19
  Speaker 2: What the hell happened that defense with Mike McDonald's so good?
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Mike McDonald's a genius or is he? What the hell happened?
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: I'm stunned. I'm still stunned.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: I can't believe what I saw and and you throw
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter of the cardinal game, when when
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: going into the fourth GLA's Rights only had three last
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: five quarters have been an utter disaster. I mean, I'm
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: just I hope that Julie in Love is the greatest
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: secondary quarterback in all of football, and that Devin Witherspoon
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: is like the greatest juice intensity dude. Because and and
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: they're just missing those guys so much. Uh, because I
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: just can't fathom what they did. I mean, you know,
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: completions of ten and more yards coming into the game
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: that the c X defense was average averaging yielding six
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: point seven five, they gave up fifteen. How about fifteen
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: plus yards they gave came in the game averaging exactly four,
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: they gave up ten. How about twenty plus yards they
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: came in averaging two point twenty five per game, they
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: gave up seven. It was just like they almost collectively
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: were worse in one game than they had been in
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: four And uh, you know the third down conversions third
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: and there's four convert I should say attempts attempt at
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: conversions that Tampa Bay had. Where was third and thirteen
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: to third and seventeen they convene. They converted three of
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: the four.
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: And I looked up.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: The NFL average for the last three years combined thirteen
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: point five percent of the time when when when it's
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: between third and thirteen and third and seventeen, does the
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: offense convert thirteen a half percent? If you then say, okay,
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: what is the chance that you'd get three or more
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: in four attempts? Based on just the binomial probability of that,
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: there's a point eight eight four percent chance that you
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: would pick up three, three, or more less than less
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: than less than one in one hundred.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Wow. And so you know, it was just that kind
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: of day.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: And Mike McDonald took all the responsibility after the game.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: He came in.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: I was sitting in the press conference last night. He
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there listening. He walks in before and
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: anybody could ask a question. He spent about three or
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: four minutes saying, this is on me. It's my defense.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: I I like, and he just he just basically took
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: it all on himself. We know this guy's a defense
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: of Guru. He didn't turn dumb overnight. He just but
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I think a couple of things jump out. I appreciate
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: him saying that, kind of taking the press and didn't
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: want to use any excuses with Witherspooner Love being out,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Derek Hall going out after just eight plays, any of
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: that stuff. De Marcus Lawrence not playing. He didn't want
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: to use any excuses. Uh, he took full responsibility. But
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: you mentioned it. It's it's not just the game against Tampa,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: as you said, I forgot about that, the Arizona game.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: It's five straights. They've been lit up.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: They've been lit up, and and I do respect that.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: You know, I'd made a comment about I wish that
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: we saw that coming out of Montlake, and on multiple
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: occasions it just it just hasn't emerged from there in
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: similar circumstances. I think, uh, it's an opportunity for leadership.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: His players are knowing that he's taking that, and I
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: bet you he says that internally too, and and then
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: you know what what the response is just kind of
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: uh viscerally, you say like, hey, I want to I
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: want to do my part for this guy because of
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: how he's taking that kind of accountability. But you know
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: what the fact is, and I don't just like Mike McDonald.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: I love the guy, you know, I mean sports love, right,
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: but I mean who he is, the person he is,
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: how the teacher he is, how his vision of football.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: I'm not giving up on Mike McDonald. He has had
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: a horrible five quarters. His team has had a horrible
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: five quarters. But I am totally of the belief you
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: can record this and play it later. I'm of the
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: belief he will fix this problem. He's because he's that good.
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: And but the pass rush just was non existent. There
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: was nothing up the middle. Leonard Williams, where were you?
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: I never thought he could go sixty minutes and be that.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know, just it's October. He was like like
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: he was hit, you know, he was like a ghost.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Where was he? You know?
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: Byron Murphy? You no, the only thing those two guys
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: did is have fifteen yard penalties, yep. And so there
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: was no push from the middle. The edge pressure is
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: non existent, you know, for for those who you know
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: and and you know I've talked about it. I say, okay,
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: let it's baseball time right now. Let's use a baseball
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: term eight aircraft carrier. Well, if you're gonna have an
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: aircraft carrier on your defense, it's defensive end. That's the
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: position that aircraft carry it like that slugger in the
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: middle of your lineup. If you're going to use that
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: term for defensive football. In my opinion, it only applies
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: to a defensive end. Maybe Aaron Donald, you know, like
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: like a once a generation type, you know, guy in.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: The end right right, you know.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: But but but generally a guy who can create that
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: kind of havoc on the edge. And you know, well
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: he thought long and hard like hay shid. Have we
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: gotten involved in the Micah Parsons sweepstakes?
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Was nothing from the edge. Nothing nothing. It's well, you know, listen,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence isn't the DeMarcus Lewarrens from ten years ago
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: or five years ago whatever. But you know, not having
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: him hurt. Derek Halla con mentioned he played eight He
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: had eight plays before he left with the old league.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: That's a concern. I think what you said there is
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: interesting about Leonard Williams. I'm sitting next to Farhad Logy
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: from TSNY coaches. He's coach football forever. He's in the
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: actually Canadian Football Leaue Hall of Fame. We're sitting and
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: watching and he said the same thing. He says, ninety nine.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Is invisible today.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: And that's hard from the guy six six and and
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: it's like and it is it's like he you know,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: and and we all love Leonard Williams. He just had
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: that day. Bra Murphy continues to be a head scratcher.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: You know it just it feels like there's much much
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: more there than we're seeing, you know, the Hall injury,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Mike Morris ends up playing thirty nine percent of the
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: defensive snaps. And I mean, I honestly I love Mike Morris.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: One of the best interviews on the team.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Good dude.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: But that's like, that's off brand Red Bryant. That's like Walmart.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Go to wet Walmart and get Red Bryant because the
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: body is huge, but he's on he's on an edge rusher.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: That's that's not his job, right, he doesn't have the twitch. No,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just watching early August football. Well,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: so you got all that going on. So Baker Mayfield's
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: is back there having a sandwich and just doing his
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: thing and carving them up. And then before I get
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: to I just want you to break down a book
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: in a second, because he just looked like he was playing,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: you know, down at still come as a grown ass
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: man again, like this like this was easy. I'm playing
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: in the squally league or something.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: This is fun.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: But as before I get to him. Devin Withers puts
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: down his three games out of five this year. He
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: was healthy, lab played all the seventeen last year, but
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: he missed games. Is his rookie years. Well, I don't
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: get it, man, I like, how do you play one
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: hundred percent of the snaps one week, get nine days
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: off and then you're out again.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Julian loves out. He's missed two games this season.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I mean that's a concern if those guys are getting
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: that banged up, if there's something nagging those guys, if
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: there's something that's that's you know, is a long term
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I mean they've built their defense around a couple of
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: those guys, specifically Witherspoon in love Well.
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: You go back to when he was a fifth pick
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: in the draft, and uh, you know when they're when
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: the Seeraarks are picking late in the draft, you know,
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: I'm like, well, there's a lot of guys you know,
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: maybe this guy, that, maybe that guy. But when then
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: you're drafting fifth, you know, I'm gonna come on the
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: stations such as yourselves and others and people say, well, okay,
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: who do you want him to take? Well, I I
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: was very firm that year Jalen Carter, He's worth the risk,
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: go back. I'm sure it's in multiple podcasts Jalen Carter,
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: and now I have been very thrilled with I'm in
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: hit the competitiveness from Witherspoon. At no time have I
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: ever thought it's a that he's a disappointment. He's just
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: too much of a competitor, is too good of a player?
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: Is he perfect?
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: No?
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: But I have not been disappointed, and I'm not disappointed
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: today as I speak. But we talked about Witherspoon. You know,
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: I remember just doing his weight like he like at
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: Illinois he was one hundred and eighty eight pounds, and
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: I'm sitting there going like like how much can you
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: bulk up? I mean, that's just like that's his body style.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: You know the term ectamorphic, he's you know, he's a
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: little bit ectomorphic by defensive backstand.
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: I don't.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: I don't, Yeah, I don't know.
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: Like that's a ectamorphic means you're inclined to be thin.
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: Its hard to put on weight. Think DeVante Smith.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: I can't relate, But that's cool. Same right, So so
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: that that would be endomorphic, right, it would be the opposite.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: Kevin Durant, a beautiful Hall of Fame athlete.
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: You know, you know that no matter what he tried
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: to do to you know, he could squat you know,
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: a thousand pounds, you know, every day for his life.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: He's still not going to be you know.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: So anyways, so Witherspoon just body style, there's going to
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: be some limitations.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: I mentioned it.
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: Mike Holmgren was particularly attentive to that concern about, Hey,
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: you get those little guys, you know, they can get
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: banged up, particularly with his play style. So so that's
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: something that was discussed at draft time. We're seeing it
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: a little bit here and it hurts.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to uh. I mentioned at Buke a
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: mecha and Buka. He just he went bananas yesterday without
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: those guys.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Tyle Kotta was number two on tackles for Seattle with
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: seven A good story, battled his way on an NFL
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: roster often on the last three years, basically been a
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: practice squad guy he got called up, and usually when
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: he got called up the last couple of years here
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: it was special teams only. I'm looking out there and
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: seeing a lot of thirty eight and eight and then
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden. I know, we all want to
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: hit Onrek Wolan. What happened the second he left the game?
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: If I believe they picked on picked on his replacement, right,
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah so. But more importantly, as everyone's watching
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: that game on Sunday, every Seahawks fan can relate to this.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: All we saw were guys running wide open, wide open
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: all day like like there wasn't a pass defense.
• 51:14
  Speaker 8: It was.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: It was insane. I mean, I'm looking here at the
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: NFL stats, they didn't have a pass defense. Like, how
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: do you go through an entire game with a guy
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: throwing forty passes not having one pass defense?
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: You so walk through what hardcore? What happened in this game? Well,
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: it starts with the lack of pass rush. And so
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: for Baker Mayfield it was like seven on seven. And
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: it wasn't just that he had time. I mean I
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: had one play where he takes an eight step drop.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: He said, wait a minute, I thought I thought there
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: were odd numbers. Well, when you open to your left
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: in play action, then it's going to be an even
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: number and it's an eight step drop plus three hitches.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: And then when you freeze the tape from the end zone,
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: to see his angle. It's like it's like Moses in
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: the red seat, Like there's these huge throwing lanes. Nobody's
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: around him, Nobody could touch him if they had a
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: tennis racket swatty now right, like so so he's got
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: this totally clean pocket. But just man, there are so
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: many notes here of how when Mike McDonald says he
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: got out coached, it's I I hate to say it
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: because it's in evidence. And and for example, let's go
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: the fifty seven yard how about that one in third
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: and thirteen? But if we can't but scores tied, so
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: this is this and uh, late in the third quarter.
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: So here Mike McDonald is saying, all right, I've I've
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: got pretcht in the game. I've got a I've got
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: to put a safety over the top, all right, So
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: you're gonna you're gonna what You're gonna put Kobe Bryant
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: the safety on that side over the top to help.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: So Pritchard doesn't have deep responsibility because there's three receivers
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: to that side. Now you're gonna have uh, the safety
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: to the single receiver side. He's gonna use a term
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: called poach, which which poach means you're aligned to the
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: single receiver side by by your stance on the field,
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: but your attention and your eyes are to the three
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: receiver side, so you're gonna push to the three receiver side. Well,
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: all of that, what all that does? That's all great
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: for the strong side to help Richard in the to
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: the three receiver side. What about the single receiver side
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: with a Mecca Abuka one on one, free access, no jamming,
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: no safety help, and he's on Josh job. Well, that'd
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: be fine if you had, uh, you know some of
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: the elite, you know, Jalen Ramsey from five years ago,
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: or you know with some of these top you know,
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: Sace Gardener or something, but you will allow free access.
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: A Mecca has a great move, you know, he starts
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: to go to the out route. I bet when they
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: practice it, he goes three steps to the out. But
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: because job was to the outside, he he he, he
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: goes one step and he goes up further. And you
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: remember Mayfield kind of caught him late because a Mecca
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: got up the field a little faster than then it
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: was supposed to time out, and so he almost outran
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: Baker's arm. Right, but so so Okay, so freeze, what
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: we're talking about an immensely pivotal play and we're talking
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: about a coverage that is designed to help a second stringer,
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: but it's leaving you one on one with Josh job
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: you know. I mean, he's not Patrick Sertan, right, but
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: he's one on one with an emerging I mean, if hell.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: If you had to do the the voting right now,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: he might be the guy. It might be Rooky of
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: the Year, might also be be first seam All Pro.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: He's got five touchdowns and I'm gonna get you know,
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: like where we're like and Baker Mayfield.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: Hell, he'd get my vote for m v P because
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: he's got four fourth quarter comebacks, three of which are
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: in the final minute.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: Like, who are you gonna put as the MVP of
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: the NFL above Baker Mayfield? Right now, every team has
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: a loss, so you can't don't say Josh Allen. So
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: he like, so the of the one loss teams, he's
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: done the most to help his team by far, and
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: so that's what you're dealing with.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: But you know, so that's a factor.
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: And then how about the touchdown pass that a Mecca
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: had in the back of the end zone, you're playing
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: a coverage there. If you go back and watch the tape,
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: which I've done of the the Tampa Bay against the
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: the Falcons, a Mecca had the game winning catch with
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: a minute.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: And four to go in that game, and it was
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: the exact exact same play.
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: I went back and looked at it because when when
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks hit it, I'm like, wait a minute, isn't
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: that the play they beat the Falcons on? And so
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: I looked at it. I went back, Yep, trips all
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: the whole route concept. It was the same play, no way,
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: So you know the Seahawks. Yeah, it's it's so people
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: call a Mills concept that.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, I guarantee you they studied the hell of it.
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: I guarantee you on Friday, which is red zone Day,
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: that they they scripted that at least once probably in
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: team period and in seven seven at least twice, actually
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: maybe more so they've seen that play. And but against
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: the Falcons, the Falcons chose to allow a Mecca, who
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: was the number one receiver meaning the widest close to
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: the sideline, they allowed him to have free access. So
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: Mike McDonald says, well, if I have allow a Mecca
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: free access. He's building up this head of steam. He
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: makes a little nod to the outside. He's he's going
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: full bore. I don't want him to get that kind
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: of momentum, so let me jam him. Well, I bet
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: you that that that that job or or Reek would
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: have done a better job. But you got Pritchard who
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: barely gets a jam on him. Now they're they're doing
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: What's If I was talking to Steve Spurriy right now,
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: I'd say Mills concept, which is a concept that a
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: terminology that he has a lot of the football has
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: has adopted. But it basically it's it's the number two receivers,
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: the slot receiver running running up on the safety and
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: then breaking in at an intermediate about twelve we'll just
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: call it twelve to fourteen yards, and then the post
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: in behind it. And by doing that with the slot receiver,
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: you get the safety to that side to bite. Now,
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: so they ran that concept, but I mean, Danny wolf
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: Will won a Heisman Trophy off of that concept. It's
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: been around a long time. It's been around since I
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: was playing. And now you got Kobe Bryant. He bites
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: hard on that slot. But because the backside split in
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: was doing a shallow cross. Then the safety to that
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: side doesn't have to help the corner, and that's Tayo
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: Kata and he again poaches, which means he pushes to
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: the three receiver side. And now, all of a sudden,
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: ian when you pause the tape on the end zone
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: copy of that touchdown the inside receiver, which who I
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: believe was Godwin, I'm certain was Godwin.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: He runs.
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: He's got he's got Kobe Bryant converging from the top
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: down from the outside. He's got Ocada poaching from the
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: top down from the inside, and he's got Ernest Jones,
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: who had done a beautiful job of passing off the
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: flat over to em and Worry and then falling back
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: underneath the number two receiver. It was a triangle that
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: like like three guys within, they all could have touched
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: Godwin like triple covered perfectly. Problem with that is now
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: you got Pritchard, your second string wide receiver, who just
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: allowed an inside release barely hung him up. And he's
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: now got one on one and he I'm in his acceleration.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: My kid threwed him for three years in seven on
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: seven around down in tournaments in Vegas and Orange County
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: and Atlanta and everything.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: I know a mecca really well. I know what his
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: acceleration looks like.
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: And you allow him an inside release and you don't
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: lay a hand on him, He's gonna go, and he's
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: gonna go now. And he just gets up and he
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: just runs away from Pritchard and now Baker Mayfield. He's
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: having muscle memory. He's having muscle memory and doorphins because
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: he's like, damn, this is the same ball that I
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: striped against for against the Falcons to beat them, and
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna and he basically threw the exact same throat
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: at the same time to the same spot and the
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: mecha just just walked it right to him.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Let me, let me correct Let me correct you on
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: one thing, ne and my uh he pretch its actually
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: the fifth string. Uh if you want to start counting
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: down the roster cornerback. Which goes back for our conversation
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: about Witherspoon and durability before.
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, yeah, so that those are the type
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: of things that it's like, Okay, how are you trying
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: to compensate for your injuries?
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: And then what is the defense trying to do to
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: to to gotcha.
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: So when Mike McDonald uh stands there in the podium,
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: I've only talked about two plays. I've got a whole
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: I've got pages of notes that I could break down
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: like that. So Mike McDonald is smart enough to know, Hey,
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: you know what, I got pants today that give that
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: I didn't do my job. And you know what, he
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: he just his own his own personal integrity just compelled
• 1:00:02
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• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: McVay look at the video Sean McVay uh on on
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: from Thursday night on that fourth down call. I even
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: videoed it to Sawn McVay. He steps up to the
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: first thing out of the mouse. He goes, he goes,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: terrible call by me. I'm sick that I put my
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: players in a bad position. He goes, I've got to
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: live with that. Like we've got examples, cam or beautiful
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: example in his own way of just of showing his
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: team how that that winning and losing matters to him.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: And he's like, he's like, I gotta be better, and
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: he cites like three different things that he did and
• 1:00:38
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• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: to be better, most especially me we got people that
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: are taking accountability and uh and Mike McDonald's won and
• 1:00:47
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• 1:00:49
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• 1:00:51
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• 1:00:55
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• 1:00:59
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  Speaker 2: playing as much as you can twenty times a week
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: as well on most weeks. This week on Friday, we
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: won't have we only have two opportunities, I should point
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: out because we're off early. The Hawks take over pregame
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: for the Huskies and Rutgers. So eighteen times this week,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: most weeks, twenty times. Text factor fiction to four nine
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: four five one. Very simple, very easy, very simple, very simple,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: very easy. You hate to pick you takes fiction. There
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: you go, I hear, I know you know what it's
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: funny with you say that because I looked at that.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Actually I looked at that earlier this week, and I
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: thought about it and and I was actually thinking about
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: the other side. But but here's why I don't. I
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: don't hate it because I thought Kyler Kyler was hurt more.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: Than he is. So yeah, I don't, I don't hate it.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: Don't hate it. Kyler's actually he came back in the game.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: So and also I just don't know.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: You're not believing it.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: You're not a believer in the Colts. I'm really not.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: You're on you're on team Sanchez. You're feeling bad for
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Mark Sanchez. You're all against Indianapolis right.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: Now, that it is. Jeez, I don't know about that.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: By the way, I got an update forty uh one
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: on two away torkleson up against Castillo. Yeah, two away
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: one O pitch. Yeah, I like this just in case
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: you want to relive what happened on Sunday. That's a
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: bad sign, by the way, like when they're showing that game,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: like they just said, we've got nothing else for an
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: hour and a half in Yeah, I'll Castillo paint in
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: the corner with the four seamer.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: Not a lot, not a lot of people are liking
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: my pick so far? What's the what's the approval?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: I didn't look at the percentages, but just people texting
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: and reactions. Are you kidding me?
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: And really?
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: But then Keith two five three says if Ian hates
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: your pick, you're safer than being.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, Keith is right. And if I'm not
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: mistaken three and two correct, that's correct?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: And I mean you're solid I arizonas that you have
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: to win this game, am I four and eleven?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 7: Yes?
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's bad. Yeah.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: The combination of Ian, Jesman, Christopher, and Jackson are five
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: and twenty eight in Factor Fiction this year.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, but two guys are two guys are over
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: they are kids, oh for nine and Jackson's oh for four.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: I at least have four wins, you do. Yeah, she
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: can't hear.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 7: Us right now? Right?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's be honest.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: One and four and I think all of her picks
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: we've gone. But really, I see she takes the Jets
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: all the time.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she does. She always takes the Jets or the Commanders.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: I like Dan Quinn and a gri up a Jets fan.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: So it's yeah, don't pat with the heart. Torkleson gets
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: underneath it. Let's see Randy Camps underneath for those who'll
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: do it. You're wondering if wait, did the game start?
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: No, Ian is played by playing the game that already happened,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: because that is what's going on on f S one right.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: That steal gives up a lead off lock and nothing else.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: We head to the bottom of the first No score,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: all right, let's get to us Softie coming up next?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Well again, no score update to give you from the
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Mariners and Tigers score updates. Yeah, no score update to
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: give you from Americas and Tigers. Game three the Alds
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: because the game is still in a rain delay. So
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: if you're just joining us and you're like, what the hell,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: what's going on? Here's the way you can watch it
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: if and when it starts today? Is that it by
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: the way, that'll that will be it MLB network and
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: FS two will have it, or you can watch it
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: on the FS one app. And who doesn't have the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: Fox Sports one app on their phone?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: Doesn't everybody have that on their phone? I do, Okay,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: then if I have it, then you better damn we'll
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: have it.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: Well listen, I mean we're all used to the FS one.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: They probably have a truck race going on.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: What game was that for? The Hustle Stanford Friday? Friday night?
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: Friday night? We were down there at the game.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 9: I remember being with I was with Wilner actually we
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 9: were watching that thing, and I think I think Larry
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 9: Scott may have been at.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: The game, and everybody was livid, like, what the hell
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: is this?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 7: Man?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 9: Are you kidding me? This isn't even a real like
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 9: NASCAR race, truck race, a truck race, and you know what,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 9: you know how mad I was.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: I was mad.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 9: I'm not even a Husky fan. Yeah, I was like,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 9: can we watch the game. Probably had money on the
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 9: Cardinal that night. Because you're a degenerate.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: That's fine. I usually all know it. No, you know what,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: I usually hatch. I usually got them husky.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 9: I've been losing money on the Apple Cup for years. Man,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 9: I get it, and I totally get it.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: So what do you think? What are you hearing? Well?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: What am I hearing?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 9: I'm hearing exactly what you're hearing that The next update
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 9: is going to come at about eleven minutes. I think
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 9: we we we have our update on the pole, we
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 9: have our update on the bet, we have our update
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 9: on the scoreboard.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: Now we need if we can, the four of.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 9: Us, Jess and Andrews feel free to be a part
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 9: of this update and update on the start time up
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 9: you're ready in three two and one up day on
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 9: the start time that was horrible, but that's what makes
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 9: it so great to save that for me?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: Will you by hey? I need that? So yeah, the
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: next update is gonna come at three o'clock. Get a
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: roof Detroit. Well that's what I said, man, get a
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: roof your goons for.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 9: Very nineteen seventy, like we across the river to Windsor
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 9: wins some money and buy a fricking roof the how's
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 9: going on here?
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: By the way, every weather person was wrong, which just
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: makes right like everyone's ought to be done by two
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: o'clock rack till their time.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 9: I mean my questions are three and fourfold. Number one,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 9: I want to know the latest the game can start tonight.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 9: I think it's about nine o'clock nine thirty p is
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 9: the latest thing. I would go six correct. Number two.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 9: If they don't play today, which feels like they will.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 9: But if they don't, do they just squeeze games three
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 9: and four into tomorrow and the travel day Thursday, pop
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 9: back back Thursday night and play game five on Friday?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 7: Well?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Just right?
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 9: Is there any chance the game five would then be
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 9: on Saturday? And then I saw John Smoltz was talking
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 9: about this. Somebody put a tweet out. They made a
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 9: tweet from the tweeto with logan Gilbert Splitter and the
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 9: humidity out there, And if it does rain and they
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 9: play through some light rain, how does that impact him
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 9: and his deal?
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 8: So?
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 9: I don't know, man, I mean, you know as well
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 9: as I. Pitchers are creatures of effing habit, And when
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 9: you go to the park at a certain time and
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 9: you're expecting to come out at a certain time for
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 9: your bullpen, go out for first pitch, and all of
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 9: a sudden you're sitting around doing nothing. Uh, this could
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 9: throw a lot of people off. I would just say this.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 9: My advice after this rain delay is bet the over.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 9: Bet the over on the on the game. I think
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 9: it's seven and a half. I would I were going
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 9: to be I want to see some runs. We're going
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 9: to see some fireworks today. I have to add CA America.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 9: I think the delay even adds to that even more
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 9: in my opinion. So they got well, and that's my
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 9: professional game advice. If I'm wrong, blamanders.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, and it's your fu. Well, you know here, here's
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: the thing.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: If if they play, and I think we all assume
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: they will, at least, it looks like they're waiting it out,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: so they don't start and stop because we know how
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: this team handles that.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 9: Not well, like right, not well, well, I mean nobody
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 9: really handles that way. No, what's not the thing that
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 9: morning guys are talking about. You got Chuck on coming up, Yeah,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 9: he'll join us.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: They talked about that this morning, and apparently there's some
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: numbers that say, like when Seattle has a delay awful
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: like worse than most teams.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: I'd like to know how.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 9: Those numbers compare though to the rest of base Then
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 9: that's what you asked, mister base And assuming that a
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 9: lot of teams happen, you have to ask mister baseball
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 9: at three acclaims that was a That was a full
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 9: segment of the morning show today, sir, that's tell you
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 9: right now.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: We just rip off everything they do. So if they're
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: not prepared, we're screwed. Ye just makes we air check
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: what they're doing. And I'll want to play again tomorrow
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: for game three if it's on time. So three purpose.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: So we got logs coming up? Are we doing? Yeah,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: I gotta get some pepto bismo or so. What's wrong
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: with you? Are you stressed out? Are you stressed out?
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: The hell's wrong with this? What's wrong with you?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 7: Man?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: It's just a baseball just a baseball game. Come on, relax.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 9: That's what Josh Naylor said when he took off to
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 9: go back to Arizona. I know what's wrong with just
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 9: the baseball game. Hey, by the way, did she have
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 9: the baby?
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: We don't know?
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right? People seems like the kind of guy
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: that wants everything kept very so and right. Wilson was
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: asked that by he scared out of his money.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: Your friend Levine, he won't tell you anything, and he said,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: I'll let Josh tell you what's going on.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: And no one has a you know, what to go
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: ask Josh Taylor would kick his ass. Are you kidding?
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 7: Made?
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 9: And I'll give you this purple sheet had a good point. Really,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 9: I know, I know I was what's today's date? October seventh,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 9: two thousand rate, But.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's it comes. It comes
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: from the world.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: It comes from the world of management. It's the old
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: hippolawe like he can't he can't say.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, come on, man, everybody knows for good. Do
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: you think he just bailed on her.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 9: I think he just said, look, babe, you got about
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 9: four hours and daddy's out of here. Yeah, all right,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 9: I got a leer jet waiting for me. It's costing
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 9: me fifteen thousand bucks an hour. I'm not waiting all
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 9: day for your pain.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: First of all, if he had to pay for his
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: own jet, Mariners the Mariners.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 9: The Mariners didn't even give out forty seven thousand rally
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 9: towels for games one two.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: I don't care. I was going to ask you about that.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 9: What was the deal they didn't give him, gave like
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 9: twenty twenty thousand people. Yes, and they were the wrong color.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 9: They should have been yellow because you can't see blue
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 9: in the stands. Oh yeah, I thought you knew this already.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: I did not know that. Oh my god, a man,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: you know what, Oh my god, you're so cheap. We
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: don't like change. I'm sure they'll sign nailor to what
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: he's worth. We don't like change, and this is just
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: sticking with a status quo. So I appreciate you know what.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 9: I like wait and rely on a certain number of things,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 9: and that's one of you know what, stay on brand,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 9: that's what.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: That's brand. That's what I'm talking. A way to game
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: we could use you.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: You're paying for your own flight, even though there's forty
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: seven thousand people standing in the concession lines on Sunday.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: We're gonna have it.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 9: Is so typical Mariners that before the biggest game of
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 9: the year, we find a way to bust their bulls.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: It's right, I mean, that's it's unfortunate, but you know,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: we are got Nico from Como. What do you say?
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: The rain has stopped in the Troit but no moving
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: from the ground. Screw nobody go from.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 9: Como, whose last name nobody knows how to pronounce, says
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 9: the rain has stopped in k America. So uh, you
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 9: got it, you gotta get you got the show coming up.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 9: We're gonna stand join it from Detroit.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: He will.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 9: I think Larry Stone might jump on as well, if
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 9: we can squeeze him in before the game. And then, please,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 9: for the love of God, stay with us after first pitch,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 9: and we might give away like a prize or something.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: Husky Hanks cracking tickets. It is crack.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: We we got that. We got Husky Hanks. We got
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: John Wilner.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 9: That sounded terrible, by the way, terrible Brian Schmitzer may
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 9: hop on.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: His way so they were not in a hurry.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: By the way, man, just so you're not
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: For the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness, this is
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: paddle day saying so long everyone