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Treasurer Daniel Elliott joins Tony to talk about recent swatting attempts on Indiana State Senators · Tony Katz | Popcorn Moment

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  Speaker 2: Then grab your popcorn because there is more. The Secretary
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  Speaker 2: of the Treasury Secretary for Indiana, his name is Daniel Elliott,
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  Speaker 2: joins me right now on the show.
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  Speaker 1: He's there.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you being here, sir, because you put out
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  Speaker 2: a post there on social media and what you stated
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  Speaker 2: was we need changes right now to the nine to
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  Speaker 2: one one system and I was curious as to why
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  Speaker 2: you would be putting this out.
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  Speaker 1: What is it that your connection is to this? Your
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  Speaker 1: office runs the system. I have that right, sir, you do.
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  Speaker 3: I first off, thanks for let me come on and
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  Speaker 3: talk about this issue. And yes, I am the chair
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  Speaker 3: of the nine one one board for the state of Indiana.
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  Speaker 3: We run nine to one one throughout the entire state
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  Speaker 3: and we help local governments with their nine one one
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  Speaker 3: centers so under.
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  Speaker 2: So this is all in your purview as state treasurer.
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  Speaker 2: This is all under your office. There have been a
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  Speaker 2: series of swatting events in Indiana against state senators, representatives people,
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  Speaker 2: allegedly because.
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  Speaker 1: They're not going in favor of redistricting.
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  Speaker 2: Although we don't know who it is who has done
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  Speaker 2: this swatting stuff yet, and I'll get to that. That's
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  Speaker 2: been the allegation in the press. When these kinds of
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  Speaker 2: swatting things happen. What is the the change you want
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  Speaker 2: to see in the nine to one to one system?
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  Speaker 2: Is this to stop swatting? Is this to better understand
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  Speaker 2: where the call is coming from?
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  Speaker 1: Give me the breakdown here.
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  Speaker 3: So the first thing we've got to look at, especially
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  Speaker 3: when we're when we're looking at a situation where where
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  Speaker 3: where suspected swatting is coming is happening. Is you know,
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  Speaker 3: normally when you look at a nine one one system call,
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  Speaker 3: you know, our our our first responders, they're they're going in.
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  Speaker 3: There's an emergency. We got to give in there as
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  Speaker 3: fast as possible. And oftentimes these what's happening with these
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  Speaker 3: nine to one one or with these swatting incidences, they're
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  Speaker 3: not not your typical nine one one situation. So typically
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  Speaker 3: when you think of nine one one, you think of
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  Speaker 3: someone calling someone. You know, they're calling nine one one.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of what we've all been trained to do
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  Speaker 3: for many, many years. And uh, and that's great. But
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  Speaker 3: what what's going on with a lot of these swatting
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  Speaker 3: incidents is, with all of them so far, is that
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  Speaker 3: they are not there's not a person on the phone
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  Speaker 3: calling it is. It is usually an email. Sometimes it's
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  Speaker 3: not even being sent to the proper authorities. It's being
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  Speaker 3: sent to a random email in uh, you know, with
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  Speaker 3: a within a within a county government. And so right
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  Speaker 3: there is a red flag that wait, this isn't going
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  Speaker 3: through the proper process. There's something, there's something here, you know.
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  Speaker 3: The other thing is just you know, to be aware
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  Speaker 3: and these are things. There are policy changes that we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to look at, but we're also going to
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  Speaker 3: have to look at technology. One of the great things
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  Speaker 3: about Indiana, and I say this with the frankly with
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  Speaker 3: you know, about as much pride as I would about
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  Speaker 3: one of my kids doing something really cool, uh at forage,
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  Speaker 3: is that Indiana is literally the best nine to one
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  Speaker 3: one system in the state of Indiana. We have some
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  Speaker 3: of the best technology excuse me, in the state of
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  Speaker 3: Indiana in the country. We have the best technology. We
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  Speaker 3: were the first ones in Huntington, Indiana to have nine
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  Speaker 3: to one one. I mean, we really are at the
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  Speaker 3: cutting edge. So as with those tool available to us,
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  Speaker 3: and because we do have those tools, I want us
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  Speaker 3: to start looking at how do we how do we
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  Speaker 3: flag something that's a possible swatting into that because that
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  Speaker 3: gives law enforcement a completely different idea of what kind
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  Speaker 3: of energy they're going to come through. They don't need
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  Speaker 3: to be breaking down a door. I mean, this is
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  Speaker 3: ridiculous when you think and this you know, to switch
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  Speaker 3: gears for a second, when you think that we're going
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  Speaker 3: at individuals here, it's for political discourse, which is which
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  Speaker 3: is the worst, worst reason, because this is a country
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  Speaker 3: where where we need to be able to say what
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  Speaker 3: we think. How can we expect people to be able
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  Speaker 3: to say what they think if we're if they're worried
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  Speaker 3: about what's going to happen to their wives and children.
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  Speaker 3: But the other side of that is, you know, take
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  Speaker 3: take political figures out of this picture. What happens if
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  Speaker 3: people start to use this as a copycat system of
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  Speaker 3: Oh I don't like this person, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 3: you know this girl broke up with me, So I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to do something I'm going to do. I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to swatter you know these things. We've got to look
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  Speaker 3: at this and say people are going to start using
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  Speaker 3: this in other forms and we and so what we've
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  Speaker 3: got to do is come up with use our technology
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  Speaker 3: and policies to make sure we're not we're not causing
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  Speaker 3: more harm.
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  Speaker 2: Talking to the State Treasurer Daniel Elliott, his office runs
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  Speaker 2: the nine to one one system. Have there been and
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  Speaker 2: to be clear, swatting is disgusting, despicable evil. I want
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  Speaker 2: people in jail. And I have a serious issue with
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  Speaker 2: how already we don't know the identities of some of
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  Speaker 2: these people who have made these calls or sent these emails.
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  Speaker 1: We have the ability to trace so many things.
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  Speaker 2: Is that also in the purview of your office or
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  Speaker 2: is that local municipalities and local police departments that have
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  Speaker 2: to do that.
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  Speaker 3: So here's the So here's where we work well with
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  Speaker 3: our you know, my office, we're really we're really experts
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  Speaker 3: at the technology at nine to one one. But what
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  Speaker 3: we are not is we are not investigators. And so
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  Speaker 3: this is now in the hands of the state police,
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  Speaker 3: who they are the best of the best, and if
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  Speaker 3: they're if they will, I can promise you they will
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  Speaker 3: be working to make sure that this that they can
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  Speaker 3: make as you can't keep sir, well, they will know.
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  Speaker 3: What I mean by that is they will be working
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  Speaker 3: their hardest. I don't want to tell you we're going
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  Speaker 3: to know exactly because here's the here's the beauty of
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  Speaker 3: technology and the problem with technology. And I've spent twenty
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  Speaker 3: five years in the technology industry, so I'm very familiar
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  Speaker 3: with this. There are ways to hide your hide your tracks,
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  Speaker 3: but those are the things that can also flag us.
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  Speaker 3: Just tell us there's something wrong here, you know, this
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  Speaker 3: is there's something that's not off. That's off, and so
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  Speaker 3: we but but the other thing about it is what
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  Speaker 3: I've found is some people are just stupid. You know.
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  Speaker 3: This this incident is a perfect example of it. And
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  Speaker 3: so if they've made a mistake, you know, we'll find them.
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  Speaker 2: That, by the way, is an evergreen statement, sir, talking
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  Speaker 2: to the State Treasurer Daniel Elliott's before I let you
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  Speaker 2: go thirty seconds or less, have any local municipalities reached
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  Speaker 2: out to you about specific changes they would like to
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  Speaker 2: see made?
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  Speaker 3: So this is so fresh. I've spoken to a couple
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  Speaker 3: of local folks. But we are we right now, we
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  Speaker 3: are we are focused first on on the incident, and
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  Speaker 3: we're now looking you know, from there, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: start looking at what can we do to make this,
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  Speaker 3: make our system stronger and better and help catch help
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  Speaker 3: keep this from happening.
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  Speaker 2: Daniel Elliott, State treasure State of Indiana. Listen, I appreciate
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  Speaker 2: you coming on. You just put this statement out. You
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  Speaker 2: came on immediately when I sent you a text, and
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  Speaker 2: I do appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Sir, Thank you so much for being with us.