Latest / Philosopheasy Podcast / Erich Fromm's Three Escapes From Your Own Life
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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: Sunday.
- 0:02SPEAKER_00: Nothing is scheduled.
- 0:04SPEAKER_00: Nothing at all.
- 0:06SPEAKER_00: For months you told yourself this was what you wanted.
- 0:10SPEAKER_00: No meetings.
- 0:12SPEAKER_00: No unwatching the little green dot next to your name.
- 0:15SPEAKER_00: A whole day that belongs to you.
- 0:17SPEAKER_00: By ten in the morning you've checked your email.
- 0:19SPEAKER_00: Twice.
- 0:21SPEAKER_00: Just in case, by noon you've opened the same three apps.
- 0:25SPEAKER_00: Eleven times you make a list of things a person should do with a free day.
- 0:30SPEAKER_00: And then you feel a little guilty because now the free day has a list.
- 0:35SPEAKER_00: And at four in the afternoon,
- 0:36SPEAKER_00: you look up and you realize you've spent the whole afternoon watching strangers live
- 0:40SPEAKER_00: the kind of day you meant to have.
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: Nothing went wrong.
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: Nobody stopped you.
- 0:46SPEAKER_00: That's what makes it so strange.
- 0:48SPEAKER_00: This is philosophicy.
- 0:50SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you're here.
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: Today, a book from 1941 that reads like your screen time report.
- 0:58SPEAKER_00: It's called Escape from Freedom by the psychoanalyst and philosopher Eric Fromm.
- 1:04SPEAKER_00: Here's what you'll walk away with in the next half hour.
- 1:08SPEAKER_00: First, a name for a feeling you've probably had, but never had a word for.
- 1:15SPEAKER_00: Second, Fromm's three escapes, the three ways people hand their freedom back without noticing.
- 1:21SPEAKER_00: By the end, you'll know which one is yours.
- 1:25SPEAKER_00: And third, one small practice, ten minutes long, that Fromm would say is the way back.
- 1:31SPEAKER_00: So, three movements today.
- 1:34SPEAKER_00: The ache.
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: Then the thinker and the turn.
- 1:37SPEAKER_00: Then how to actually live it.
- 1:40SPEAKER_00: Let's start with the ache.
- 1:41SPEAKER_00: Here's the feeling we're talking about.
- 1:44SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have a dramatic name.
- 1:46SPEAKER_00: It isn't burnout.
- 1:47SPEAKER_00: Burnout is when you've given too much.
- 1:49SPEAKER_00: This is different.
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: It isn't sadness either.
- 1:53SPEAKER_00: Sadness has a shape.
- 1:55SPEAKER_00: You can usually point at what you lost.
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: This is flatness.
- 1:59SPEAKER_00: You got what you asked for.
- 2:01SPEAKER_00: Maybe it was a remote job.
- 2:03SPEAKER_00: Maybe it was going freelance,
- 2:05SPEAKER_00: or a side project,
- 2:07SPEAKER_00: or finally leaving a place that told you exactly what to do every hour of the day.
- 2:12SPEAKER_00: You got the freedom to design your own life.
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: And instead of feeling alive,
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: you feel oddly numb, as if you're following instructions nobody gave you.
- 2:22SPEAKER_00: Maybe you know the weekday version, too.
- 2:25SPEAKER_00: You finally have the job where nobody checks when you log in.
- 2:29SPEAKER_00: You can start at 10,
- 2:30SPEAKER_00: take a walk at 2, finish at midnight if you want to, and what actually happens?
- 2:37SPEAKER_00: You start at 8, but you feel you should.
- 2:40SPEAKER_00: You never take the walk.
- 2:42SPEAKER_00: You answer messages at midnight anyway because someone might be waiting.
- 2:47SPEAKER_00: Nobody asked you to.
- 2:48SPEAKER_00: You did it to yourself, and you did it so smoothly you didn't notice.
- 2:52SPEAKER_00: Or maybe it's bigger than a job.
- 2:55SPEAKER_00: Maybe you left a relationship, or a city, or a whole way of life because it felt too small.
- 3:02SPEAKER_00: And in the new,
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: wide-open space, you found yourself rebuilding the old walls, one habit at a time.
- 3:10SPEAKER_00: I want to stay with that phrase for a second.
- 3:13SPEAKER_00: Following instructions nobody gave you.
- 3:15SPEAKER_00: Because that's the strange part.
- 3:17SPEAKER_00: When you had a boss, the instructions were obvious.
- 3:21SPEAKER_00: Be here at nine.
- 3:23SPEAKER_00: Finish this by Friday.
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: You could resent them, but you knew where they came from.
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: Now there's no boss.
- 3:30SPEAKER_00: And yet somehow the day still fills up with rules.
- 3:34SPEAKER_00: Check this.
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: Answer that.
- 3:37SPEAKER_00: Keep up with this person.
- 3:39SPEAKER_00: And that trend and that conversation everyone else seems
- 3:43SPEAKER_00: to be having Who's giving those instructions?
- 3:47SPEAKER_00: That's the question this whole episode is about.
- 3:50SPEAKER_00: Now, when people feel this way, they usually get advice.
- 3:53SPEAKER_00: And the advice usually sounds like this.
- 3:57SPEAKER_00: Build a routine.
- 3:58SPEAKER_00: Find your why.
- 4:00SPEAKER_00: Optimize your mornings.
- 4:02SPEAKER_00: And I don't want to be unfair to that advice.
- 4:05SPEAKER_00: Sometimes a routine really helps.
- 4:07SPEAKER_00: But notice what each of those suggestions actually is.
- 4:10SPEAKER_00: It's another script.
- 4:12SPEAKER_00: Another set of instructions to follow.
- 4:14SPEAKER_00: So you follow it.
- 4:16SPEAKER_00: And you end up with a better organized version of the same emptiness.
- 4:20SPEAKER_00: The Sunday is now scheduled beautifully.
- 4:24SPEAKER_00: And you still don't feel like you were in it.
- 4:26SPEAKER_00: Here's something that might help.
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: This feeling is not new.
- 4:30SPEAKER_00: It's not a product of phones or remote work or anything specific to your life right now.
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: Those things make it louder.
- 4:38SPEAKER_00: But the feeling itself was described very precisely more than 80 years ago.
- 4:44SPEAKER_00: By a man who had watched something much darker than a wasted Sunday.
- 4:49SPEAKER_00: Here's who saw this coming and why.
- 4:52SPEAKER_00: Erich Fromm was born in Frankfurt in Germany in 1900.
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: He trained as a psychoanalyst in the same tradition as Freud,
- 5:01SPEAKER_00: but he was never only interested in what happens inside one person's head.
- 5:05SPEAKER_00: He wanted to know what happens between a person and the society they live in.
- 5:10SPEAKER_00: In the 1930s, he watched something terrifying happen in his own country.
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: He fled the Nazis and ended up in the United States.
- 5:19SPEAKER_00: And in 1941, in the middle of the war, he published Escape from Freedom.
- 5:25SPEAKER_00: But Fromm didn't start his story in the 1930s.
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: He started it centuries earlier.
- 5:31SPEAKER_00: In the middle chapters of the book he looks at the end of the medieval world and
- 5:34SPEAKER_00: the age of the Reformation.
- 5:37SPEAKER_00: His argument goes roughly like this.
- 5:39SPEAKER_00: In the medieval world a person had very little freedom but a very clear place.
- 5:45SPEAKER_00: You were born a peasant or a craftsman or a noble and that told you who you were.
- 5:51SPEAKER_00: It was narrow but it was also a kind of home.
- 5:54SPEAKER_00: As that world broke apart, people gained enormous new freedoms.
- 5:58SPEAKER_00: Freedom to trade, to move, to believe for themselves.
- 6:02SPEAKER_00: And at the same time, Fromm argues they lost the place that had held them.
- 6:07SPEAKER_00: The individual became freer and lonelier and more anxious all at once.
- 6:14SPEAKER_00: That's the pattern he sees repeating right up to his own century.
- 6:18SPEAKER_00: Every time we gain more freedom from, we also inherit more of that loneliness.
- 6:23SPEAKER_00: And unless we learn what to do with it, we look for somewhere to hide.
- 6:27SPEAKER_00: The book tries to answer a question that still haunts us.
- 6:31SPEAKER_00: Why would millions of people who had fought for their freedom rush to give it away?
- 6:36SPEAKER_00: Now, you might be thinking, that's a book about fascism.
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: What does it have to do with my Sunday?
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: And this is what makes Fromm so worth reading.
- 6:46SPEAKER_00: His answer wasn't only political, it was psychological.
- 6:51SPEAKER_00: He was describing what freedom does to an ordinary person on an ordinary afternoon.
- 6:56SPEAKER_00: The politics were the extreme version.
- 6:59SPEAKER_00: The Sunday is the everyday version.
- 7:01SPEAKER_00: Here's the key move.
- 7:03SPEAKER_00: From splits.
- 7:05SPEAKER_00: Freedom in two.
- 7:07SPEAKER_00: The first kind he calls freedom from.
- 7:09SPEAKER_00: That's what happens when the old ties fall away.
- 7:13SPEAKER_00: The village where everyone knew your business.
- 7:15SPEAKER_00: The church that told you what was right.
- 7:18SPEAKER_00: The job for life.
- 7:20SPEAKER_00: The boss who told you what to do at 9 o'clock every morning.
- 7:23SPEAKER_00: When those go, you are free from them.
- 7:26SPEAKER_00: The second kind is freedom to actually live as yourself.
- 7:31SPEAKER_00: To think your own thoughts.
- 7:32SPEAKER_00: To feel your own feelings.
- 7:34SPEAKER_00: To want your own wants.
- 7:37SPEAKER_00: We are very good at the first kind.
- 7:39SPEAKER_00: Modern life has been giving us more and more freedom from for a few hundred years.
- 7:45SPEAKER_00: We are much worse at the second.
- 7:47SPEAKER_00: And here's the catch.
- 7:48SPEAKER_00: The thing Fromm saw that most people miss.
- 7:52SPEAKER_00: Freedom from leaves you alone.
- 7:54SPEAKER_00: The old ties were limiting, yes.
- 7:57SPEAKER_00: But they also held you.
- 7:58SPEAKER_00: They told you who you were.
- 8:00SPEAKER_00: When they're gone, you are standing on your own, and nobody is telling you what any of it means.
- 8:06SPEAKER_00: And alone, Fromm says, we get scared.
- 8:09SPEAKER_00: So let me say the core idea as simply as I can.
- 8:13SPEAKER_00: This is the first time you'll hear it three times today.
- 8:17SPEAKER_00: The flatness you feel isn't a failure to use your freedom.
- 8:20SPEAKER_00: It's you escaping it, not losing it, escaping it.
- 8:25SPEAKER_00: Handing it back quietly, because holding it alone is frightening.
- 8:30SPEAKER_00: Fromm says there are three main ways we do this.
- 8:33SPEAKER_00: Three escape routes.
- 8:35SPEAKER_00: Let's walk through them.
- 8:37SPEAKER_00: As we go, keep a quiet score in your head.
- 8:41SPEAKER_00: Which one sounds most like you?
- 8:43SPEAKER_00: Escape one submission?
- 8:45SPEAKER_00: Or finding a new boss?
- 8:48SPEAKER_00: When an old authority disappears,
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: it leaves a gap, and many of us fill that gap, fast, with a new authority.
- 8:56SPEAKER_00: In Fromm's time, that was often a strong leader.
- 9:00SPEAKER_00: Someone who promised to take the weight of choosing off your shoulders.
- 9:05SPEAKER_00: Today it's usually quieter than that.
- 9:08SPEAKER_00: It's a system.
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: It's the productivity guru whose morning routine you copy to the minute.
- 9:14SPEAKER_00: It's the app that tells you when to drink water and when to breathe.
- 9:18SPEAKER_00: It's the commentator whose opinions you adopt as a complete package.
- 9:22SPEAKER_00: So you never have to work out what you think.
- 9:26SPEAKER_00: Picture someone who finally goes freelance.
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: The first week is wonderful.
- 9:31SPEAKER_00: By the third week, the empty calendar feels frightening.
- 9:34SPEAKER_00: So they sign up for a program that promises a system for everything,
- 9:38SPEAKER_00: when to wake, what to post, how many clients to call before lunch.
- 9:44SPEAKER_00: The relief is enormous, and slowly they realize they've hired a new boss, one they pay for.
- 9:51SPEAKER_00: Fromm also noticed the mirror image of submission,
- 9:54SPEAKER_00: the urge to dominate controlling someone else's plans,
- 9:58SPEAKER_00: micromanaging every detail of a project.
- 10:02SPEAKER_00: It looks like the opposite of submission, but Fromm saw them as two sides of the same coin.
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: Both are ways of escaping the harder thing,
- 10:11SPEAKER_00: which is meeting another person as an equal, both of you free.
- 10:16SPEAKER_00: The sign of this escape, you feel relief when someone tells you what to do.
- 10:21SPEAKER_00: Escape two, Destructiveness, or Shrinking the World.
- 10:26SPEAKER_00: The second root is darker and more common than we like to admit.
- 10:30SPEAKER_00: When the world feels too big to meet, too open, too uncertain, one way out is to attack it.
- 10:38SPEAKER_00: If you can't face something, you can at least tear it down.
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: Fromm saw Destructiveness as another escape from the powerlessness of being alone.
- 10:47SPEAKER_00: In 2026 it looks like this,
- 10:49SPEAKER_00: the doom scroll that turns into dunking on strangers, cynicism as a personality.
- 10:55SPEAKER_00: Quitting things before they have a chance to disappoint you,
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: deleting your own work at two in the morning because it isn't good enough.
- 11:03SPEAKER_00: Picture someone who has a free evening and a half-finished project they care about.
- 11:08SPEAKER_00: They open it.
- 11:09SPEAKER_00: It isn't as good as they hoped.
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: So instead of working on it,
- 11:13SPEAKER_00: they spend two hours reading what's wrong with everyone else's work.
- 11:17SPEAKER_00: By the end of the night they feel sharp and superior and completely empty.
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: The project is still half-finished.
- 11:25SPEAKER_00: It's safer that way.
- 11:27SPEAKER_00: Nothing unfinished can fail.
- 11:29SPEAKER_00: It feels like strength.
- 11:31SPEAKER_00: It feels like seeing through things.
- 11:34SPEAKER_00: But very often it's a way of making sure nothing can reach you.
- 11:39SPEAKER_00: The sign of this escape, contempt feels safer than hope.
- 11:45SPEAKER_00: Escape 3, Automaton Conformity, or Becoming Who Everyone Expects.
- 11:51SPEAKER_00: This is the one Fromm thought was the most common in free societies.
- 11:55SPEAKER_00: The one from that Sunday.
- 11:57SPEAKER_00: Here, you don't obey a boss.
- 12:00SPEAKER_00: You obey an atmosphere.
- 12:02SPEAKER_00: You become without ever deciding to the kind of person everyone around you seems to expect.
- 12:07SPEAKER_00: Picture someone scrolling on a Sunday.
- 12:11SPEAKER_00: They're not unhappy.
- 12:13SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 12:14SPEAKER_00: They're watching other people's weekends, and without really noticing, they're taking notes.
- 12:20SPEAKER_00: What to wear?
- 12:21SPEAKER_00: What to think about the news?
- 12:24SPEAKER_00: What a good life is supposed to look like this year?
- 12:27SPEAKER_00: By Monday, they've quietly updated themselves.
- 12:29SPEAKER_00: Nobody told them to.
- 12:31SPEAKER_00: That's the point.
- 12:33SPEAKER_00: Fromm puts it like this, quote, The individual ceases to be himself.
- 12:39SPEAKER_00: He adopts entirely the kind of personality offered to him by cultural patterns.
- 12:44SPEAKER_00: End quote.
- 12:45SPEAKER_00: That's from Chapter 5 of Escape from Freedom.
- 12:49SPEAKER_00: And a little further on he describes, quote,
- 12:52SPEAKER_00: the person who gives up his individual self and becomes an automaton,
- 12:56SPEAKER_00: identical with millions of other automatons around him.
- 13:00SPEAKER_00: End quote.
- 13:01SPEAKER_00: Here's what's so clever and so sad about this escape.
- 13:05SPEAKER_00: It works.
- 13:07SPEAKER_00: The automaton no longer feels alone.
- 13:10SPEAKER_00: When you think what everyone thinks want what everyone wants and spend your Sunday
- 13:14SPEAKER_00: the way everyone spends theirs, the loneliness goes quiet.
- 13:19SPEAKER_00: The price is the self,
- 13:21SPEAKER_00: and what's left very often is exactly that flatness we started with,
- 13:25SPEAKER_00: the sign of this escape, numbness.
- 13:29SPEAKER_00: You are doing everything right and feeling almost nothing.
- 13:33SPEAKER_00: So the core idea, a second time, in different words, we don't just lose our freedom.
- 13:39SPEAKER_00: We hand it back.
- 13:41SPEAKER_00: Because being ourselves alone is frightening, and being who everyone expects is quiet.
- 13:49SPEAKER_00: Before we go on, I want to say something important.
- 13:52SPEAKER_00: None of this is a character flaw.
- 13:55SPEAKER_00: If you recognized yourself in one of these escapes,
- 13:58SPEAKER_00: or in all three, that doesn't make you weak, or shallow, or lazy.
- 14:04SPEAKER_00: Ram was very clear that these are normal human responses to a real problem.
- 14:09SPEAKER_00: The problem is that freedom, by itself, is frightening.
- 14:15SPEAKER_00: We weren't taught what to do with it.
- 14:17SPEAKER_00: Most of the world around us is designed to make the escapes easier, not harder.
- 14:22SPEAKER_00: The feed never ends.
- 14:24SPEAKER_00: The next system is always one click away,
- 14:27SPEAKER_00: and there is always someone ready to tell you who to be.
- 14:30SPEAKER_00: So if you've been escaping, you've been doing what almost everyone does.
- 14:34SPEAKER_00: The difference now is that you can see it.
- 14:37SPEAKER_00: And what you can see, you can start to choose.
- 14:40SPEAKER_00: Here's the part that stings, and then the way out.
- 14:44SPEAKER_00: Fromm goes one step further, and this is the part I find hardest to hear.
- 14:50SPEAKER_00: We assume our thoughts are ours, our feelings are ours, our wishes are ours.
- 14:55SPEAKER_00: Fromm says often their borrowed quote,
- 14:58SPEAKER_00: This substitution of pseudo-acts for original acts of thinking,
- 15:02SPEAKER_00: feeling,
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: and willing leads eventually to the replacement of the original self by
- 15:07SPEAKER_00: a pseudo-self.
- 15:09SPEAKER_00: End quote.
- 15:10SPEAKER_00: Pseudo-acts, a pseudo-self.
- 15:13SPEAKER_00: Let's make that concrete.
- 15:15SPEAKER_00: Think of a career goal that sounds impressive at dinner parties.
- 15:19SPEAKER_00: Think of a holiday you chose, partly because it would look good in photos.
- 15:24SPEAKER_00: Think of an opinion you arrived at about five minutes after everyone else
- 15:28SPEAKER_00: in your feed arrived at it.
- 15:30SPEAKER_00: None of those is wrong to want.
- 15:32SPEAKER_00: That's not the point.
- 15:34SPEAKER_00: The point is.
- 15:36SPEAKER_00: The question from keeps asking underneath.
- 15:39SPEAKER_00: Where did the wanting come from?
- 15:41SPEAKER_00: Did it grow out of you?
- 15:44SPEAKER_00: Or did you pick it up, the way you pick up an accent?
- 15:47SPEAKER_00: So let's find out which escape is yours.
- 15:50SPEAKER_00: Three questions.
- 15:52SPEAKER_00: You can pause the episode if you want to answer them properly.
- 15:55SPEAKER_00: Question one.
- 15:57SPEAKER_00: When you suddenly have a free hour, what do you reach for first?
- 16:02SPEAKER_00: A rule to follow, that's submission.
- 16:05SPEAKER_00: Something to criticize, that's destructiveness.
- 16:09SPEAKER_00: Or the feed, the thing everyone else is looking at.
- 16:13SPEAKER_00: That's the automaton, question two.
- 16:16SPEAKER_00: When you make a choice, even a small one, whose voice do you hear in your head?
- 16:21SPEAKER_00: A parent.
- 16:23SPEAKER_00: A boss you left years ago, an influencer, or yours, question three.
- 16:28SPEAKER_00: And this is the real one.
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: When did you last do something with no audience,
- 16:33SPEAKER_00: no metric, and no reason except that you wanted to?
- 16:38SPEAKER_00: If that third question was hard to answer, don't be alarmed.
- 16:43SPEAKER_00: It's hard for most of us, but you've just found the problem, and that means you can work on it.
- 16:50SPEAKER_00: Let's try something right now together.
- 16:53SPEAKER_00: Wherever you are, just for a moment, notice what your hands want to do.
- 16:58SPEAKER_00: Maybe they want to reach for your phone.
- 17:00SPEAKER_00: Maybe they want to check something.
- 17:02SPEAKER_00: Just notice it.
- 17:03SPEAKER_00: Now notice something else.
- 17:06SPEAKER_00: Is there anything,
- 17:07SPEAKER_00: anything at all,
- 17:08SPEAKER_00: that you would genuinely like to do in the next hour, just because you want to?
- 17:13SPEAKER_00: Not because it's useful.
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: Not because anyone will see it.
- 17:17SPEAKER_00: Just because.
- 17:19SPEAKER_00: If something comes up,
- 17:21SPEAKER_00: even something small,
- 17:22SPEAKER_00: like a walk, or a song, or calling one particular friend, hold on to it.
- 17:28SPEAKER_00: That's a thread back to yourself.
- 17:30SPEAKER_00: We'll come back to it in the practice at the end.
- 17:33SPEAKER_00: So what does Fromm offer instead?
- 17:36SPEAKER_00: It isn't do whatever you like.
- 17:38SPEAKER_00: That's usually just another script, the one advertisers write for us.
- 17:43SPEAKER_00: And it isn't rebellion either.
- 17:45SPEAKER_00: Rebellion is very often conformity to a different crowd.
- 17:49SPEAKER_00: You swap one set of expectations for another, and it feels like freedom for a while.
- 17:55SPEAKER_00: Frum's answer is quieter and harder.
- 17:58SPEAKER_00: He calls it positive freedom,
- 18:00SPEAKER_00: and he defines it like this,
- 18:03SPEAKER_00: positive freedom consists in the spontaneous activity of
- 18:06SPEAKER_00: the total integrated personality.
- 18:10SPEAKER_00: That's from Chapter 7 of Escape from Freedom.
- 18:13SPEAKER_00: Now, spontaneous doesn't mean random.
- 18:15SPEAKER_00: It doesn't mean impulsive.
- 18:17SPEAKER_00: It means the action comes from you.
- 18:20SPEAKER_00: Think of a child completely lost in play or a craftsperson who looks up
- 18:25SPEAKER_00: and realizes three hours have gone by.
- 18:28SPEAKER_00: Nobody told them to do it.
- 18:31SPEAKER_00: Nobody is watching.
- 18:32SPEAKER_00: They're simply in it.
- 18:34SPEAKER_00: And here's why this matters so much for Fromm.
- 18:37SPEAKER_00: Remember, we escape freedom because being alone is frightening.
- 18:41SPEAKER_00: Spontaneity is his answer to that fear in his words.
- 18:45SPEAKER_00: Spontaneous activity is the one way in which man can overcome the terror
- 18:49SPEAKER_00: of aloneness without sacrificing the integrity of his self.
- 18:55SPEAKER_00: The escapes cure the loneliness by giving up the self.
- 18:59SPEAKER_00: Spontaneity cures the loneliness by connecting you to the world as yourself.
- 19:04SPEAKER_00: From names to places where it lives, Love and Work.
- 19:09SPEAKER_00: Not love as possessing someone and not work as performing for someone.
- 19:14SPEAKER_00: Love and work as things you are actually present in.
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: In love, spontaneity looks like actually meeting another person, not managing them.
- 19:23SPEAKER_00: Not performing for them.
- 19:25SPEAKER_00: Listening to what they say instead of waiting for your turn.
- 19:29SPEAKER_00: Being surprised by them.
- 19:32SPEAKER_00: Letting yourself be surprised.
- 19:34SPEAKER_00: In work it looks like the moments when you're absorbed in the task itself.
- 19:39SPEAKER_00: Not in how it will look or what it will earn or who will praise it.
- 19:43SPEAKER_00: The carpenter who loves the grain of the wood.
- 19:46SPEAKER_00: The teacher who forgets the lesson plan because a student asked a real question.
- 19:51SPEAKER_00: The writer who stops checking the stats and just writes the next sentence.
- 19:55SPEAKER_00: Most of us have had moments like that.
- 19:58SPEAKER_00: The question Fromm asks is, how do we have more of them?
- 20:03SPEAKER_00: And how do we stop running away from them into the escapes?
- 20:07SPEAKER_00: Let's argue with Fromm for a moment because he can take it.
- 20:11SPEAKER_00: The first objection goes like this.
- 20:14SPEAKER_00: This is a luxury.
- 20:16SPEAKER_00: Most people don't have free Sundays.
- 20:18SPEAKER_00: They have rent.
- 20:19SPEAKER_00: They have children.
- 20:21SPEAKER_00: They have 12-hour shifts.
- 20:23SPEAKER_00: That's fair.
- 20:24SPEAKER_00: But I think Fromm's spontaneity isn't about free time.
- 20:28SPEAKER_00: It's about ownership of the moments you do have.
- 20:32SPEAKER_00: A nurse at the end of a long shift who chooses how to speak to
- 20:35SPEAKER_00: a frightened patient is freer in Fromm's sense than someone with an empty weekend
- 20:39SPEAKER_00: who spends it on autopilot.
- 20:42SPEAKER_00: So the question isn't how many hours are yours.
- 20:45SPEAKER_00: It's whether you are in them.
- 20:47SPEAKER_00: The second objection is more philosophical.
- 20:50SPEAKER_00: Every want is learned from someone.
- 20:53SPEAKER_00: There's no pure, untouched self underneath all the influences.
- 20:57SPEAKER_00: So what are we even trying to find?
- 21:00SPEAKER_00: And I think Fromm would agree that nothing starts from zero.
- 21:03SPEAKER_00: His test isn't purity, it's relationship.
- 21:07SPEAKER_00: He writes, quote, Ours is only that to which we are genuinely related by our creative activity.
- 21:14SPEAKER_00: A borrowed idea becomes yours when you work with it,
- 21:19SPEAKER_00: when you argue with it, test it, make something from it.
- 21:23SPEAKER_00: The accent you picked up becomes your voice when you start saying new things with it.
- 21:27SPEAKER_00: And there's a third objection, one I hear often.
- 21:31SPEAKER_00: Isn't spontaneity just another thing to optimize, another self-help goal?
- 21:36SPEAKER_00: Be more spontaneous by Tuesday.
- 21:38SPEAKER_00: And that's a good catch.
- 21:41SPEAKER_00: If you turn spontaneity into a performance, you've turned it into another escape.
- 21:46SPEAKER_00: That's exactly why the practice I'm about to give you has no goal, no audience, and no score.
- 21:52SPEAKER_00: The point isn't to become a spontaneous person.
- 21:56SPEAKER_00: The point is to notice, a little more often, when you are one.
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: So, the core idea one last time, freedom isn't something you have.
- 22:06SPEAKER_00: It's something you do.
- 22:07SPEAKER_00: The one from the test.
- 22:08SPEAKER_00: Three.
- 22:34SPEAKER_00: For the rest of the time, do whatever genuinely pulls you.
- 22:38SPEAKER_00: No goal.
- 22:39SPEAKER_00: No output.
- 22:40SPEAKER_00: No audience.
- 22:42SPEAKER_00: Walk.
- 22:43SPEAKER_00: Sketch.
- 22:44SPEAKER_00: Cook something without a recipe.
- 22:46SPEAKER_00: Sit.
- 22:47SPEAKER_00: Read something nobody recommended to you.
- 22:50SPEAKER_00: 4.
- 22:52SPEAKER_00: Afterwards, write one line.
- 22:54SPEAKER_00: What did I do that nobody asked me to?
- 22:57SPEAKER_00: A word of warning, because this matters.
- 23:00SPEAKER_00: The first time you try this, it might feel uncomfortable.
- 23:04SPEAKER_00: You might feel restless or bored or even a little anxious.
- 23:08SPEAKER_00: That's not a sign you're doing it wrong.
- 23:11SPEAKER_00: That's the feeling Fromm was describing.
- 23:14SPEAKER_00: That's what freedom feels like before the escapes kick in.
- 23:18SPEAKER_00: If that happens, don't fight it and don't run from it.
- 23:22SPEAKER_00: Just notice it.
- 23:24SPEAKER_00: Stay with it for one more minute than feels comfortable.
- 23:28SPEAKER_00: Very often on the other side of that restlessness, something quieter appears.
- 23:32SPEAKER_00: A small wish.
- 23:34SPEAKER_00: A real one.
- 23:36SPEAKER_00: Follow that.
- 23:38SPEAKER_00: And remember the thread from earlier.
- 23:40SPEAKER_00: The thing you'd genuinely like to do in the next hour.
- 23:44SPEAKER_00: Just because.
- 23:46SPEAKER_00: That's a good place to start.
- 23:48SPEAKER_00: Do it three times this week by the third time.
- 23:52SPEAKER_00: Notice whether the pull toward your old exits has changed.
- 23:56SPEAKER_00: Let's go back for a moment to that Sunday we started with.
- 24:00SPEAKER_00: The same empty day.
- 24:02SPEAKER_00: The same free hours.
- 24:05SPEAKER_00: But imagine it going a little differently.
- 24:08SPEAKER_00: You wake up and you notice the pull to check your email.
- 24:12SPEAKER_00: You notice it and you don't follow it.
- 24:15SPEAKER_00: Not heroically, just curiously.
- 24:18SPEAKER_00: You wonder what you'd actually like to do and something small comes up.
- 24:23SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's making coffee slowly and drinking it by the window.
- 24:27SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's the walk you keep promising yourself.
- 24:31SPEAKER_00: By the afternoon you haven't done anything impressive.
- 24:34SPEAKER_00: There's nothing to post.
- 24:36SPEAKER_00: But you were there.
- 24:38SPEAKER_00: You were in your own day, and for the first time in a long time, the freedom doesn't feel heavy.
- 24:44SPEAKER_00: It feels like yours.
- 24:46SPEAKER_00: That's all Fromm is asking for.
- 24:49SPEAKER_00: Not a new life.
- 24:50SPEAKER_00: Not a perfect routine.
- 24:52SPEAKER_00: Just more moments that genuinely come from you.
- 24:56SPEAKER_00: Let's bring it together.
- 24:58SPEAKER_00: Eric Fromm saw that freedom from leaves us alone.
- 25:01SPEAKER_00: And that we often escape the fear of that by handing our freedom back to a new boss
- 25:05SPEAKER_00: to contempt or to becoming who everyone expects.
- 25:10SPEAKER_00: Three escapes the new boss who takes away the weight of choosing.
- 25:14SPEAKER_00: The contempt that keeps the world at a safe distance.
- 25:18SPEAKER_00: And the automaton who becomes whoever everyone expects and stops feeling alone
- 25:23SPEAKER_00: and stops feeling much at all.
- 25:26SPEAKER_00: The flatness many of us feel isn't laziness or ingratitude.
- 25:30SPEAKER_00: It's the sound of that escape.
- 25:33SPEAKER_00: And the way back is spontaneity, small, real actions that come from you in love and in work.
- 25:40SPEAKER_00: This week, try the unscripted hour three times.
- 25:45SPEAKER_00: And then tell me in the comments, which escape is yours?
- 25:50SPEAKER_00: The new boss, the contempt, or the automaton?
- 25:54SPEAKER_00: And what did you do in your unscripted hour?
- 25:57SPEAKER_00: We'll work through your answers together, Liv, at this month's Masterclass.
- 26:02SPEAKER_00: This has been Philosophasy.
- 26:04SPEAKER_00: Go and do something nobody asked you to.