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- Lucas: There's a moment in every influencer campaign that brands rarely talk about — the moment after the post goes live, when the comments start rolling in, and someone on the product team actually reads them. Luna: You mean brands are watching the replies for product ideas? That's not just engagement metrics? Lucas: It's becoming a deliberate pipeline. A handful of brands are now structuring influencer campaigns specifically to generate customer feedback for product development. It's not new to listen — what's new is the formal feedback loop. Luna: Give me a concrete example. Who's actually doing this? Lucas: Let's start with a midsize skincare brand called Boka, which most people haven't heard of. In early 2025, they ran a six-week pilot with ten micro-influencers — each with about 15,000 to 40,000 followers — and they didn't ask for polished tutorials. They asked influencers to share a 'skin frustration' and invite followers to comment with their own. Luna: So they turned the campaign into a crowdsourced research project. Lucas: Exactly. Boka's product team set up a private dashboard that pulled every comment containing keywords like 'dry', 'red', 'breakout', or 'texture'. Within two weeks, they had 1,200 coded data points. They identified that 34 percent of commenters complained about a specific texture issue with their current moisturizer — a waxy feel. Boka had a formula in the lab that addressed that exact complaint. They accelerated its launch by four months. Luna: That's a direct line from a comment to a product change. But how do you ensure the feedback isn't just an echo chamber? I mean, influencer audiences tend to share similar demographics. Lucas: That's the key tension. The brands doing this well are layering in quantitative surveys and follow-up polls to validate what they're hearing. But the risk is real — if you only listen to a creator's most vocal fans, you might build a product for superfans that flops with the mass market. Luna: I remember Glossier basically built their early product line this way. Their 'Into the Gloss' blog comments were de facto focus groups. But back then it felt organic. Now it's getting systematized. Lucas: Right. The difference is intentionality. Glossier's founder Emily Weiss famously read every single comment herself in the early days. That's not scalable. What we're seeing now is brands creating dedicated Slack channels for top-tier influencers — not for campaign coordination, but for ongoing product feedback. Luna: So influencers become paid product consultants, essentially. Lucas: In some cases, yes. Dollar Shave Club had a program called the 'Insider Circle' where a dozen influencers got early access to prototypes and were asked to share unfiltered feedback. Not for content — just for R&D. The influencers were compensated with a flat monthly retainer, separate from any sponsored posts. Luna: I like that they paid separately. Because the line between authentic feedback and free labor can get blurry. If a brand asks an influencer to 'just share your honest thoughts' but doesn't pay, that's extracting value from their community. Lucas: Exactly. And there's an ethical dimension here. When a brand uses an influencer's comments section as a focus group, the commenters aren't consenting to be research subjects. They think they're just chatting. Some marketers argue that's fine — it's public data. Others say you need to disclose, or at least anonymize before using quotes internally. Luna: Has any brand actually disclosed? Like, 'Hey, we're mining these comments for product ideas'? Lucas: A few. The beauty brand Tower 28 ran a campaign last year where the influencer explicitly said, 'Babe, drop your skin concerns below — the brand is listening and might use your feedback to make something new.' That transparency actually increased engagement because people felt heard. Luna: So the feedback loop becomes a value exchange — the audience gets a sense of co-creation. Lucas: Precisely. And that's where the smartest brands are heading. They're not just extracting data; they're closing the loop by telling the audience, 'You said X, so we made Y.' That builds loyalty that no ad campaign can buy. Luna: But it also raises the bar. If a brand asks for feedback but never acts on it, the audience will notice. Lucas: That's the risk. A brand that solicits input and then ignores it gets burned twice — once in wasted campaign spend, and once in lost trust. So the feedback loop has to have a real product outcome, or don't start it. Luna: I'm curious about the metrics. How do you measure success of this kind of campaign beyond comments? Lucas: Boka tracked a metric they called 'insight velocity' — the time from a comment being posted to it being reviewed by the product team. They got it down to 48 hours during the pilot. They also measured 'adoption rate' — how many of the top 20 feedback themes led to a formulation change. It was 55 percent. Luna: That's impressive. But it also means they're operating almost like a direct to consumer brand, even though they sell through retail. The influencer channel becomes their R&D department. Lucas: And that's the bigger shift. Traditionally, consumer goods companies spend 18 to 24 months developing a product, then launch it and pray. These feedback loops collapse that timeline. Boka's pilot reduced their concept to shelf cycle from 14 months to about 8 months for that specific product. Luna: Eight months is still fast. But I wonder if this approach works for every category. Like, could a car company do this? Or a financial services brand? Lucas: It's harder for high-consideration, low-frequency purchases. But some are trying. A fintech startup called Zing recently ran an influencer campaign asking people, 'What's your biggest frustration with your banking app?' They got over 3,000 replies. Two of those suggestions became features in their next release. Luna: So the playbook is: find influencers whose audience matches your target demographic, ask a specific question, and then actually build what they tell you. Lucas: That's the simplified version. The nuanced version is about filtering signal from noise, protecting against vocal minorities, and maintaining a clear product vision. You can't just outsource strategy to the comments section. Luna: Right, because the loudest voices aren't always the most representative. Lucas: Exactly. And that's why the best programs combine qualitative feedback with quantitative validation. Boka, for instance, followed up their comment analysis with a survey sent to the influencer's audience. They got 800 responses and used that to prioritize which features to tackle first. Luna: So the influencer becomes the conduit, but the brand still does the hard work of analysis. Lucas: And compensation. The influencers in Boka's pilot were paid a $2,500 flat fee plus a bonus if their audience generated more than 500 coded comments. That aligns incentives — the influencer wants to spark real conversation, not just get likes. Luna: I like that model. It rewards depth over vanity metrics. But it also requires the brand to have the internal capability to process that data. Not every company has a product team that can pivot that fast. Lucas: That's the bottleneck. Most brands are still organized around annual planning cycles. A feedback loop that moves in weeks conflicts with that. So the early adopters tend to be smaller, nimbler brands — or dedicated innovation units inside larger companies. Luna: This also reminds me of something we've talked about before: the unpaid labor behind influencer campaigns. There's a risk that brands start expecting influencers to provide this feedback as part of a standard sponsorship, without extra compensation. Lucas: And that's where the industry needs standards. The influencer marketing trade groups are starting to draft guidelines around this — treating feedback contributions as a separate deliverable, with separate payment. It's not widespread yet, but it's coming. Luna: Let's talk about the tools. What software are brands using to capture this feedback? Lucas: A mix of things. Some use social listening platforms like Brandwatch or Sprout Social, but those are designed for broad monitoring, not campaign-specific loops. A newer startup called Hatchling offers a tool that integrates with influencer management platforms and automatically tags comments by theme. Boka used that. Luna: So it's becoming a specialized category. I could see agencies offering 'feedback loop management' as a service. Lucas: They already are. A few influencer agencies now have 'consumer insights' divisions that do exactly this. They pitch it as: 'We don't just get you exposure — we get you product intelligence.' Luna: That's a much stronger value prop than impressions. If I'm a CMO, I'd rather hear what customers actually want than how many eyeballs saw my logo. Lucas: And that's why this approach is spreading. But it also changes the relationship between brand and influencer. The influencer becomes more of a partner than a media channel. That can be good — more respect, more pay — but it also means more pressure to deliver insights. Luna: I think that's a net positive. The creator economy has been moving toward professionalization anyway. This just accelerates it. Lucas: Of course, there's a darker scenario: brands using feedback loops to gather data on competitors. If an influencer's audience talks about a rival product, that's free competitive intelligence. Luna: That feels ethically murky. An influencer's followers don't expect to be corporate spies. Lucas: It's a gray area. Some brands explicitly ask influencers to prompt discussions about competitor pain points. It's not illegal, but it's not transparent either. The best practice is to focus on your own product's shortcomings, not trash-talk others. Luna: So what does this mean for the average listener who's a brand manager? What's the one takeaway? Lucas: Start small. Pick one influencer who has an engaged, niche audience. Ask them to pose one specific question to their followers. Set up a simple spreadsheet to track the themes. Then take one actionable insight and actually use it. The cycle is more important than the scale. Luna: And pay the influencer for that labor separately. Lucas: Non-negotiable. If you're getting product intelligence, that's not a perk — it's a deliverable. Luna: You know, it's interesting — we talk about these strategies on the show, and sometimes listeners write in saying they've tried something we mentioned. That kind of feedback loop is a lot like what we're describing: you tell us something, and we use it to make the show better. Lucas: That's exactly why we keep this podcast ad-free. We don't want to sell your attention to sponsors. We just want to have honest conversations that help people do their jobs better. Luna: If these episodes have given you an idea that you've actually used at work — or even just a smarter way to think about your marketing — and you'd like to support that independence, there's a simple way. Lucas: It's buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. No subscription, no perks, no pressure. Just a way to say this kind of conversation matters to you. Luna: We appreciate that. And we'll keep bringing you specific, actionable stories — like this one about feedback loops. Lucas: Because if there's one thing we've learned from covering this space, it's that the brands that listen best, win. And that goes for podcasters too. Luna: Alright, let's pivot to one more angle I want to dig into. We talked about skincare and fintech, but what about physical goods — like food or apparel? How does a feedback loop work when the product has a longer shelf life? Lucas: Great question. Let's take a look at a snack brand that did it well...