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Our thoughts on Netflix's Adolescence series! | Red Chill Cinema · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: All right, hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Brian. I'm here with Alison and this
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  Speaker 1: is well, it's kind of red chill cinema because we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about media, but it's also gonna be a bit
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  Speaker 1: more like RANTI and frame maintaining or frame destroying.
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  Speaker 2: Somewhere between the two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's some in curiating stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Yes, we are going to be
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  Speaker 1: essentially talking about BBC propaganda versus the reality. And so
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  Speaker 1: there's this show that's coming to Netflix called Adolescence and
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  Speaker 1: it has been described as a twenty twenty five British
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  Speaker 1: crime drama mini series that started on March thirteenth and
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  Speaker 1: has received critical acclaim for its unique one shot filming
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  Speaker 1: technique and powerful performances. So it's got a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a gimmick of like, you know, the gimmick of let's
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  Speaker 1: do the whole thing in one shot, which is usually
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  Speaker 1: not true, Like there's usually like they play some tricks
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  Speaker 1: to do it. I remember a film called what is
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  Speaker 1: it called the It was Oliver. It was about like
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  Speaker 1: like the human why am I forgetting? It's like something
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  Speaker 1: of man And it was about you know, like human
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  Speaker 1: beings were stop reproducing, and there was a lot of no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: not not that, but but it was it had man
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  Speaker 1: in the title, if I remember correctly. But it's been
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  Speaker 1: done a few times, like it's a the whole one shot,
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  Speaker 1: you know, thing has been done before. I remember an
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  Speaker 1: episode of Daredevil that had it on Netflix. I remember
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  Speaker 1: an episode of True Detective that had it. So it's
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  Speaker 1: not really like novel. It could be well done. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying that that's not possible. I'm not saying that's
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  Speaker 1: not possible. But that's kind of what people are saying
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  Speaker 1: about it. But that's not really why we're here. It's
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  Speaker 1: not about the way it was shot, which could be
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  Speaker 1: well done. Children of Men, thank you, Richard. That's called
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  Speaker 1: Children of Men, yes, but anyway, and that one was
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  Speaker 1: done in one shot, so but anyway. The plot of
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  Speaker 1: Adolescence follows the case of thirteen year old Jamie Miller,
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  Speaker 1: who is accused of murdering his classmate Katie Leonard. Every
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  Speaker 1: episode is shot in one continuous take, immersing viewers in
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  Speaker 1: the intense and emotional journey of the investigation and its
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  Speaker 1: impact on Jamie's family and community. It has been widely
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  Speaker 1: praised for the technical achievements, obviously, but also for its
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  Speaker 1: deeply moving and harrowing performances. It has received a one
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent perfect rating on Rotten Tomatoes and has been
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  Speaker 1: described as a modern television landmark, although that number has dropped.
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  Speaker 1: It's like seventy five percent. Now, so why is it
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  Speaker 1: we are going to be looking at this today? Well
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  Speaker 1: because it well maybe we should. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how you want to do this else Oka, It is.
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  Speaker 2: Anti mail agit prop's let's be honest. And it also
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  Speaker 2: is statistically there's some statistical bullshit going on.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: For example, I believe the kid is from an intact home.
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  Speaker 2: A wrong, That is not majority of these kinds of
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  Speaker 2: violent criminals do not come from intact homes. Unfortunately, the
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  Speaker 2: kid is also white. Wrong, that is not the majority demographic.
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  Speaker 1: One of those white British knife crime offenders. Yeah yeah, one.
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  Speaker 2: Of those Yeah yeah, that's uh. So there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of inaccuracies right off the bat of who they specifically target,
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  Speaker 2: except you know, they do target boys. And I just
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  Speaker 2: want it as a as a something weird that just
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  Speaker 2: happened in my province, which we only have like about
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  Speaker 2: a million people in my province, my Tire province. Our
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  Speaker 2: largest city is maybe thirty three hundred thousand, and recently,
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  Speaker 2: I think in December, there was a incidence of extreme
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  Speaker 2: violence in one of our schools, which is not very common,
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  Speaker 2: let's say. And what was interesting about it wasn't really interesting.
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  Speaker 2: What was tragic was that it was a girl being
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  Speaker 2: set on fire, just randomly attacked, or apparently not randomly,
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  Speaker 2: because we've later found out that the aggressor was sending
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  Speaker 2: her article. So the aggressor was actually sending her threatening
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  Speaker 2: messages which her parents were alerting the authorities about, but
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  Speaker 2: they didn't really do anything, and then she got set
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  Speaker 2: on fire and now her life, the trajectory of her
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  Speaker 2: life is permanently altered. I want you to guess the
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  Speaker 2: sex of the aggressor. Yeah, it's a girl.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And the probably the soft pedaling of female crime is
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  Speaker 2: one of the reasons why it wasn't taken seriously until
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  Speaker 2: somebody got seriously hurt. But I just want to point
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  Speaker 2: out this was a brutal This is a brutal assault
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  Speaker 2: on another human being and we ignore this commonly in
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  Speaker 2: the UK. This girl, if she wasn't tried as an adult,
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be jailed. I want you to ponder this. We
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  Speaker 2: are watching a film that's implicating the violence of boys
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  Speaker 2: in a country that doesn't even jail girls for their violence.
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  Speaker 2: So this girl, if she did this in the UK,
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  Speaker 2: would probably walk here. It's my she might end up
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  Speaker 2: being tried as an adult. And she's being tried for
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  Speaker 2: aggravated assault, attempted murder and some other charge. It's pretty
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  Speaker 2: serious charges. She tried to kill this girl in the UK,
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  Speaker 2: she wouldn't have a prison to go to because they
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  Speaker 2: just got rid of them for girls, for underage girls
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  Speaker 2: in the UK. So the UK is a society deeply,
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  Speaker 2: deeply and profoundly invested in hiding women's violence and soft
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  Speaker 2: pedaling it. And here we have from the UK some
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  Speaker 2: agit prop, well an ajit prop on how or implicating
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  Speaker 2: boys as violent. And I wouldn't say if it was
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  Speaker 2: just a movie or a show that was just exploring
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  Speaker 2: a criminal boy, I wouldn't say this. But they bring
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  Speaker 2: in all kinds of current events. Apparently the boy was
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  Speaker 2: in contact with an advisor who was an inzell who
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  Speaker 2: knows like, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Alison, your audio dropped, did you hit a button.
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  Speaker 1: I can't hear you. Oh you were on and then
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  Speaker 1: you dropped immediately after I heard you for just an instant. Hello, Well,
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  Speaker 1: Alison's figuring out her audio issues and she dropped out
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  Speaker 1: completely cool. All right, So well we're gonna be looking
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  Speaker 1: at the trailer for this film called Adolescence. It's getting
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  Speaker 1: a lot of praise from critics, which means it's oh,
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  Speaker 1: Allison's back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm back, I'm back.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: What what I was saying is that the UK is
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  Speaker 2: deeply invested in hiding the truth about violence, not just
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  Speaker 2: in terms of ethnically, but also in terms of gender,
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  Speaker 2: and it doesn't. It's a society that's lying to itself
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  Speaker 2: and piling lie after lie after lie after lie. And
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  Speaker 2: for some reason, this boy ends up with a counselor
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  Speaker 2: I think it was. I mean, I just saw a
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  Speaker 2: brief scene of it. Who is an ins Are you
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  Speaker 2: flipping mental?
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  Speaker 1: We should look at the trailer. Yeah, I know there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot to unpack. It's not long. Yeah, but we
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  Speaker 1: could look at the trailer. I guess the show is on,
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  Speaker 1: so if you happen to be somebody who has Netflix,
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  Speaker 1: you could watch and confirm it I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: watch this, although I will do it for science. Like,
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  Speaker 1: if you guys insist that I watch it so we
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  Speaker 1: can talk about it, I could. I mean I did.
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  Speaker 1: I put myself through the absolute hell of watching Barbie
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  Speaker 1: like twice, and I watched Men and I watched Felt,
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  Speaker 1: So why.
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  Speaker 2: Not, right, Felt has to be the worst.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Felt's bad. It's just bad filmmaking like that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh god, it's not only like at least Barbie. Barbie
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  Speaker 2: is somewhat entertaining if you turn your frontal lobes off.
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  Speaker 2: Felt is just like being force fed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah bile. Yeah, well, hours.
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  Speaker 2: The most boring way possible.
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  Speaker 1: And I watched what is It? Gone Girl, which was
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  Speaker 1: I probably was the most well made of those but
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  Speaker 1: still infuriating.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't I actually don't think it was meant
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  Speaker 2: to be like some kind of pro girl thing. So
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  Speaker 2: it was meant to be a thriller that left you
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  Speaker 2: absolutely sick to your stomach, and it did Gone Girl.
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  Speaker 1: I did. But Okay, I guess it's the thing is
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  Speaker 1: is that without getting too into the weeds there, because
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  Speaker 1: that's definitely a digression, it doesn't matter what Gone Girl
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  Speaker 1: tried to do, because what women took away from it
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  Speaker 1: was exactly that this was some girl boss like I'm
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  Speaker 1: not a cool girl. I'm not going to do what
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  Speaker 1: men want. I'm not going to live up to I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing my thing like that. Like it doesn't matter what
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  Speaker 1: the author intended, because the author died the moment women
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  Speaker 1: read it and said, ooh yeah, I like that, ooh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I done. What's her name? The woman who murders a
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  Speaker 1: guy and then uses it to get out of trouble
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  Speaker 1: and force herself into a marriage with a dude that
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't want to be with, who doesn't want to
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  Speaker 1: be with her just because she's evil. And then there's
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  Speaker 1: a whole like monologue about being the cool girl. And
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  Speaker 1: that's that's that's the takeaways. It's that like even well,
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  Speaker 1: not that it's a high bar, but like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like supposed libertarian feminist Hannah Cox quotes that whole spiel
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  Speaker 1: from the book as like the ultimate in OMG, I'm
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  Speaker 1: that's so relatable. It's like when girls say it's maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's it's sort of like when girls say, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I love the Harley Quinn and Joker relationship because it's
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  Speaker 1: just like the kind of relationship I want, despite how
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  Speaker 1: absolutely dysfunctional it is, but there's some attraction. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that Bruce tim who created Harley Quinn, intended for
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  Speaker 1: that to be appealing to women, but it is. And
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  Speaker 1: it just showed of shows like, you know, yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter what you what you intend. What matters is
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  Speaker 1: that this is what women take away from it, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that they're inclined to want that. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why. Maybe it's because they are they don't
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  Speaker 1: know what a healthy relationship looks like, and so they're
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  Speaker 1: just like aping the ones that are the most dramatic.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like that meme that you sent, you know,
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  Speaker 1: women's romance versus men's romance. Right, let me see if
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  Speaker 1: I can kind of open this. Yeah, this one, I'll
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  Speaker 1: share it with the audience real quick. Yeah, so that's
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  Speaker 1: me for real, for real.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, I'm really sorry, guys. I'm just having a
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  Speaker 2: heck of a time. I think it is the cat.
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  Speaker 2: I think she is the she is the fly in
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  Speaker 2: the ointment. Oh, by the way, she is. Her proteins
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  Speaker 2: are apparently doing considerably better, so she is off death's door.
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  Speaker 2: But now she is five times more annoying, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she just she figures that if I'm talking to someone,
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  Speaker 2: I should be paying attention to her instead. And she
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  Speaker 2: doesn't understand the concept of podcasting, and if she did,
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  Speaker 2: she probably would disapprove because it doesn't involve getting treats,
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  Speaker 2: all right, So yeah, this is I would say, you're
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  Speaker 2: right to an extent the death of the author. But
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  Speaker 2: I think that the interpretation that she was supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be cheered for saying, oh, she's a cool girl or
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  Speaker 2: the cool girl rant is completely annihilated by the fact
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  Speaker 2: that she showed up to be an idiot in the
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  Speaker 2: next like within that very scene, Oh now you're just
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  Speaker 2: throwing everything off my desk. Huh okay. She What happens
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  Speaker 2: is she does her cool girl rant and she's like
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  Speaker 2: talking about this woman and she's like, oh, she's trying
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  Speaker 2: to be so cool for her boyfriend, and it turns
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  Speaker 2: out the woman is in the car with another woman
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  Speaker 2: and they're just having fun. Mm hm. So's it's I
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  Speaker 2: think it's pretty obvious that the creator of the movie
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  Speaker 2: is not on the side of the psycho woman. But
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  Speaker 2: you're right, a lot of women with zero media literacy
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  Speaker 2: didn't actually just went with their own interpretation of it
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  Speaker 2: rather than looking at what the There is death of
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  Speaker 2: the author, and then there is deliberately trying to murder
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  Speaker 2: the author, which is.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean I think that's what I think
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  Speaker 1: that media literacy implies that there is a you know,
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  Speaker 1: intended and proper way to interpret the media. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that a lot of people, like the women who
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  Speaker 1: agree with Amy Dunn in that story, they they take
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  Speaker 1: it as no, this is what it is because I
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  Speaker 1: said so, and so it doesn't matter that it's not consistent.
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  Speaker 1: They don't care because they've decided that they're gonna take
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  Speaker 1: what they like from it, you know, like you can
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  Speaker 1: tell them the story of Lilith, who was like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the first demon queen that you know, I made a
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  Speaker 1: hundred babies and killed one hundred babies a day and
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  Speaker 1: all of that, and it's supposed to sound like absolutely
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  Speaker 1: awful and terrifying, and women will be like, I love her,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna name my daughter after her, and it doesn't matter,
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  Speaker 1: Like you'd be like, but don't you realize that that
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  Speaker 1: would be like me naming my son Voldemort. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't know, No, it's not the same because that's empowering.
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  Speaker 1: So the death of the death of the author is
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  Speaker 1: the point, is what I'm saying. So it's not an
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  Speaker 1: accidental death. It is a murder, and it's on purpose
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  Speaker 1: because these women want to interpret the story that best
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  Speaker 1: reflects their own desire to be whatever they want, whenever
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  Speaker 1: they want, without just or consequence. So they'll use it.
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  Speaker 1: You know what it is.
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  Speaker 2: There is death of the author, and then there's attempting
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  Speaker 2: to kill the story and make it war one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: gauge in taxidermy and reconstructed into some Frankenstinian version of itself.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I agree that there is death of the author.
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  Speaker 2: I think that the author's interpretation of their own work
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  Speaker 2: might be the most salient. But but people, art doesn't
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  Speaker 2: come from I don't think it really comes from conscious
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  Speaker 2: a conscious place. It comes from an intuitive place. So
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  Speaker 2: people can create things that are deeper than what they
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  Speaker 2: allow themselves to be when they're in their conscious selves.
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  Speaker 2: So but that's neither here nor there. Let's get into
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into this month's trailer.
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  Speaker 1: Let's look at the trailer. Okay, so this is Adolescence.
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  Speaker 1: The trailer, it's about two and a half minutes long,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll pause every thirty seconds. Okay, that's nice. Are
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  Speaker 1: looking for.
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  Speaker 3: You're making a big mistake, Doc, I haven't done anything.
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  Speaker 4: He's a good k then, Jamie, I want you to
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  Speaker 4: listen carefully.
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  Speaker 2: I actually really feel like we need to. I sent
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  Speaker 2: you that video of the girl talking about her experience
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  Speaker 2: being set on fire. I mean, I think I think
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  Speaker 2: we really need to pair these two because we need
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  Speaker 2: to see the story that BBC will never tell that
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  Speaker 2: actually happened. I can bring that up. Can we watch
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of it?
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  Speaker 1: Sure, we can watch the first thirty seconds of this.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say about that first thirty seconds when
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  Speaker 1: the police barged in their home. I thought, oh, they
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  Speaker 1: must have sent out an offensive tweet. It's the it's
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  Speaker 1: the UK, right, somebody must have said, hey, somebody must
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  Speaker 1: have put a British flag on their lawn. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: let's watch thirty seconds of this.
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  Speaker 5: Everything was like covered in flames. My face was on fire.
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  Speaker 4: The teenage girl was set on fire in a hallway
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  Speaker 4: in a Saskatoon high school by a girl for the
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  Speaker 4: first time telling us what happened that day. We're not
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  Speaker 4: showing or naming her because she's a youth victim of crime.
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  Speaker 4: It was her second day of grade ten. She was
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  Speaker 4: just coming out of her classroom. Witnesses say a girl
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  Speaker 4: poured liquid onto her head and then lit her on fire.
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  Speaker 2: All right, this story will never be told. The story
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  Speaker 2: will never be told by the BBC, and said, they
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  Speaker 2: continue to implicate boys as the only ones who are
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  Speaker 2: violent or potentially violent. And they continue to do this,
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  Speaker 2: they continue and in defiance again of the statistics of
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  Speaker 2: which boys are doing this, and even defiance of the
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  Speaker 2: statistics because you can go to for example, the right
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  Speaker 2: wing and they'll say, oh, we all know who the one.
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  Speaker 2: But these boys themselves, these immigrant boys, the native or
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  Speaker 2: the more part of other cultures, they have their own
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  Speaker 2: story too, and their own things that they have that
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  Speaker 2: have happened to them to bring them to the point
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  Speaker 2: of this kind of violent action, right, and none of
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  Speaker 2: that is told. It's all lies. It's all lies about violence,
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  Speaker 2: it's all lies about victims, it's all lies about reality.
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  Speaker 2: It's just lie upon lie upon lie upon lie. And yes,
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  Speaker 2: this is fiction. But again the people who make this
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  Speaker 2: made it for a reason. Oh yeah, why they bring
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  Speaker 2: in the in cell guidance counselor. All right, let's keep going.
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  Speaker 1: I got a rumble rant from Nova fan twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: who says feminists aren't you? Ens rights advocates worried about
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  Speaker 1: the misogynistic backlash caused by feminists. The men who didn't
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  Speaker 1: listen to feminist propaganda worried about what? All right, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's let's watch thirty seconds of the trailer for
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  Speaker 1: the show again.
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  Speaker 6: Do you know a girl called Katie Leonard?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, describe each other as friends?
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  Speaker 6: Then is she that?
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  Speaker 7: Then?
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  Speaker 1: Why would you also? Hm? So do you think it
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  Speaker 1: would be okay if we speak about it?
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  Speaker 6: I haven't You're a good tis a great thought.
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't been found. I have a feeling, just want
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  Speaker 1: to say, because I haven't watched the show, but I
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  Speaker 1: have a feeling that this is going to try and
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  Speaker 1: tell us that the father is the bad influence on
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  Speaker 1: his own son, and that's where they're gonna land on.
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  Speaker 1: And I know I'm thinking it's because, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: I know this actor. He's very good. He does He's
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: done a lot of stuff I know, mostly from like
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  Speaker 1: Guy Ritchie films, but he's really good in everything that
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  Speaker 1: he does, and he's often he's the guy that gets
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  Speaker 1: the most praise, and I'm guessing that he's supposed to
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  Speaker 1: play kind of what you would call a bloke with
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  Speaker 1: a son. And I think that the idea is is
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: that if we're going with these narratives, Okay, this is
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: about toxic masculinity on some level. It's one of the
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: things that they that they try to tackle tackle in
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the series. And according to the proponents of this ideology
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: of toxic masculinity, it is something that men teach other men.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: That's where it comes from. So men are the problem
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: when it comes to toxic masculinity obviously, not just because
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: it is essentially just masculinity in any form that can
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: be considered toxic, but that they get it from other men.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I'm betting I'm just gonna make a prediction. I'm gonna
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: call it this. The father is the reason for the
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: boy's behavior and dysfunction. According to the show, that's what
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: But well, they have an in cell guidance counselor or something.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be all the men. All the men
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: are part of the problem that it's And.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Yet again, the most violent boys come, criminal boys come
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: from single mother homes. But they don't they don't address that,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: like it's just like I said, it's lie upon lie
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: upon lie like this this is, this has got a
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: narrative that it's pushing.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Oh for sure, absolutely, yeah, it's it is it is.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: It is programming specifically for for us to like like
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: not you know, not don't believe your lying eyes and
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: ears in the real world. Which we're gonna go back
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: to the uh the news story of what the girl
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: who was set on fire. Yeah, oh, look at what
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the TV show is telling you about reality and believe that, right,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, I'll place some more of this.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: And I was on the ground, rolling and trying to
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: get like the fire out, and I was screaming like
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: help me, Oh my gosh.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Of her body was burned. The fire fumes scorched her
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: vocal chords. Six months later, she still speaks in a
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: whisper my voice.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: She just kept going quieter and quieter. I think, Wow,
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: it was happening. I inhaled a lot of fumes.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: All right, thirty seconds of that.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: It's pretty rough.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Huh yeah, Like yeah, burns is a really really and
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I want that way to get hurt, like it's so vile.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: It's likely she's still alive because of one of her
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: male teachers actually intervened and put out the flames or
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: tried to or so it's like, this is this is
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: this is the reality that we don't talk about, and
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: as long as we don't talk about women's violence, we
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: will never be able to reduce violence. Period. Mm hmm, Okay,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: let's keep going.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: All right, let's look at thirty seconds of this guilty
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: he's being accused, so he's so he's telling, he's telling
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the cops. Look, you know, my son is he's not guilty,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: he's only been accused. So like the advocation for you know,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: due process, that's like, that's a wild thing right now
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: in this context because you got to look at the
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: way that shot, the sounds, they're using, the music, all
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: this propaganda comes together. It's not like in isolation. They
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: put all these things together. And if it turns out
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: that my prediction was right, then his advocation for due
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: process is all so wrong because the bad guy said it. Okay,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: so I'm just putting it out there.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: Bye, and by a gilly, you're so so good.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Look at it.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: That's you know, reading what they're doing. It's a cool
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: talction about a minosphere.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: It's a call to action by the manisphere.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was as all along.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: It's called action, calling all calling, all men, calling all men.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Let's let's hear that again, because I think it's funny
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: these whenever. What is it with the mainstream media always
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: getting this whole thing wrong? Like remember the gamer gate
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: episode of Law and Order s v U and how
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: hilarious that was, how many tames came out of it
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: because of how completely out of touch the people who
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: made that episode were. I this is like, this is
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: just the latest iteration of that. But let's let's go back.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I want I want to call to action. You don't
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: know what's happening, dad, This is a call to action
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the manisphere. This is this is Andrew Taint speaking. Okay,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: let's let's go.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: That's you know, reading want that doing. It's a cool
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: talk about a menusphe eight percent of women attracted twenty
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: percent of men.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: ID propaganda, Oh my god, literally flippant. Okay, First of all,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: why such a young boy, I mean, he's barely like
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I guess this is the moment where you stop caring, right,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: you stop caring?
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: About that's the exactly no, for sure, because he's on
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: the precipice of puberty and that's when you start kicking
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: boys out and starts saying, well, it's probably happens before then.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: You know. It's really funny because as we will find
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: out in the end of this that there's not nowhere
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: near the end. But when we get to the end,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I want to show you guys a article from the Telegraph.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: We'll be covering a review of this propaganda by the Telegraph,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: and then we'll look at another article from the Telegraph,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: which you know when you put them, when you juxtapose them,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: they really tell an interesting story. But yeah, like this is.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: This is.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: The metosphere, huh. I mean people like us who say
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: that boys should have a place in society and should
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: stop being condemned as agents of evil.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I like that demons of diseases. Yeah. I like how
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: the kid says, eighty person, what is it like, eighty
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: percent of women are attracted to only the twenty top
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: twenty percent of men and they and they it's an
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: It's just it's just a a It is a data
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: point that is not irrelevant. But they put spooky mezick
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: over it to make people go, oh my god, what
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: are those men gonna do? Didn't say you'll never get
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: them in the normal way, like you have to like
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: like just a suggestion, you know what men have to
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: do to get that eighty percent of women or whatever. Uh,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: it's just so funny. And these are yeah, these are
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: teenage boys, so we're supposed to say them.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: It's a narrative that really threatens them because they need
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: they need boys to continue to invest in this society
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: and what is in it for them. And I'm not
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: talking about, you know, having a supermodel wife, but just
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: having a plain jane wife interested in him as an
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: average man. I have talked to men who are currently
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: being locked out of the dating pool, and I've seen
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: you know what they're interested in. It's not it's not crazy.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: They just want the average woman to somehow be interested
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: in them. And the problem is that because in part
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: of social media, and I don't want to only blame
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: social media, but or like dating apps, now women can
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: basically dial up the most attractive men well or at
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: least give a facsimile. And I'm not just talking physically,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: also in terms of their personality, which tends towards a
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: dark triad again another data point. Right, they can dial
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: it up. They can have a man for a night,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: you know, kick him out in the morning, and continue
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: to live a life where they control everything and don't
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: have to take any risks because love is risks risk, right,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: And this is something that's happening, And they're saying that
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: just talking about it makes you evil. Well, it's it's
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: it's it's like the it's like a like the t
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Toms Festival. I keep going back to that with Eric
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Eric the Red, where High Brazil is sinking and they're
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: all getting up on the highest part of the like
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: the steps of Parliament and having a song about it
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: and pretending it's not happening. Except it's like High Brazil.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Except High Brazil. There's a bunch of assholes who beat
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: up anybody who says, but the water's rising, can't you see?
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: It was at our toes and now it's at our
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: knees And they just beat the crap. Don't you dare?
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: We're gonna put you in jail for saying our society
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: has some serious problems it needs to deal with.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: How dare?
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Like freaky? You're right? Yeah, And these are just data points,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: and they're turning them into some kind of evil narrative
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: to even talk about I wonder why.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely, all right. Let's look at some thirty seconds
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: of this story of the girl who was set on
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: fire in the real world.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: It like really scarred my vocal cords.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: The kids were all heading for lunch at the time.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: They say it was mayhem. A fire alarm was blaring,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: they say, a teacher tore off his own shirt and
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: jumped off into the burning fifteen year old. She says,
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: she remembers the pain and then paramedics helping lift her
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: onto a stretch.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: Hurts so much because I just wanted.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: This woof Yeah, this is this is the reality that
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: BBC will never show ever. No, it has to talk
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: about manosphere, the call of the.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Manosphere, call to action, Yes, call to action.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Another bullshit like this.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Yep, all right. So I got a super a rumble
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: rant from Nova fan again, and he says, for a dollar,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: dear feminists, maybe the next time you claim your oppressors
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: are what made your world more successful than non oppressive societies,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: how about you stop being surprised when they believe it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: All right, thank you for that let's watch some more
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: thirty seconds of the trailer. Here you see the sinister
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I remember the omen he's like got that damien thing
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: going on? We do, I'm not wrong?
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: A we.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: You see? Wait? Did you see that? This is like
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: they're not gonna show you everything, pay no, pay attention
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: though the body language, and they're they're trying to tell
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: us that the dad is the problem. So remember this
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: is how against reality they're going. They're taking a child
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: who is in an intact family, who is like a
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: native born English kid likely right there, and he's the
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: one who committed this crime. So they're not just like
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: taking away some of the obvious you know, changes, but
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: they're also changing the context of his actual upbringing. And
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: they're making the father the person responsible, like ultimately the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: boys patterning his behavior after his dad. And you'll see this.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna play it again so you guys can
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: see how cartoonishly evil the father is. I'm not wrong,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: have we?
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah? The woman?
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: You see how he goes hey like like he becomes
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: with his wife, right, I mean I assume it's his
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: wife that that that there's the suggestion. I mean, do
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying you have to really look
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: at this stuff.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I see a drunk, stupid society naked on a curb,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: masturbating its own stupid ideas to the end, like the
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: absolute degeneracy of our fricking like and I'm not even
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: talking about like homosexuals or that that kind of stuff.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: When I say degeneracy, this is moral degeneracy. This is
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: the degeneracy of saying that my feelings should impact your rights. Right,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: This is the degeneracy of trying to make the entire
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: landscape conform to your fears. Right that these are the
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: kinds of degeneracies. I'm concerned about this idea that because
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: you're afraid of a bug, everybody should lose their rights. Right.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: That kind of thing. Cowardice. I'm actually wondering if it's
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: really true that it's pride is the most central sin.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I'm actually wondering if it's cowardice. It's absolute cowardice, the cowardice,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the cowardly inability to recognize that what you've committed to
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: is failing, which is what's happening here. They're just gonna
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: blame what twelve year old boys now receiving messages marching
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: orders from the manosphere. I bet, I bet if you
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: looked at the statistics of the twelve of the boys
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: who are Tait fans, the vast majority of them come
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: from a particular type of home with no father in it.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: And yet, what are you condemning here? And again, like,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: if this was just presented as a thriller, I would
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: scratch my head. Why you're exploiting, why you're engaging in
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Let's be honest, this is kind of a sort of
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: sex exploitation of a twelve year old boy. I'd be like,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I don't want to watch it. It's on the edge
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: of being gross. But they have to add in all
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: of this current politics because they're trying to say something
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: very clearly. And what they're trying to say is that
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: all of our problems, right, it's not our politics, it's
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: not our politicians, it's not our moribun bureaucracy, it's not
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: all of the adult bullshit we get into, it's not
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: lying to ourselves about what's going on. All of our
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: problems are really in this twelve year old boy. They're
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: in him. That that's where they lie. That's that's it.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Yep okay, and his father, well.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: His father, Yeah, his father. If the boy is sympathetic,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: it's only because Yeah, if the boy is empathetic, it's
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: only because his father a monster against his own will
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: You know what toxic masculinity is really is. It's basically
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: the belief that men haven't taken responsibility enough for society.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I know that sounds likely. It's basically saying, men, you
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: need to take more responsibility while we give you no
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: place and no recognition that you are taking responsibility. Okay,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: let's keep going on. That's a little bit, maybe a
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: little confusing. I'll put it out there. Ye shall we
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: do more of the other video? I feel like we
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: should stop it here right in the climax, Brian.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm just okay. I just wanted to
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: show that the child like blowing his temper right, he's wearing,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: He's like slamming his hands on the table. He's becoming
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: like the manisphere. He's turning in. It's like the werewolf transformation.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: He's turning into the BBC's idea of what the manisphere
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: is in human form. I'm showing this to you guys
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: because this is all on purpose, all of it.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Norwegian says. I'm surprised that they depicted the father and
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: mother still living together. Of course they did because they
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: had to depict the father's abusive towards the mother, and
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: they had to condemn intact families. Yes, they had to
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: point the finger at the one family organ or orientation
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: that is least likely to create to create criminals. Then
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: to point the finger at that, because they can't point
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: the finger anywhere else, because then we would have to
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: admit that the water's arising.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: All right, yep, I got a super chow from Richard
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Bierre for five dollars. Who says, remember that case of
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: that falsely accused boy at the Pennsylvania high school who
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: was accused by some mean girls just because they didn't
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: like him. As far as I know, they face no
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: consequences for their actions. I wonder if the perpetrator of
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: setting the student on fire will have to face consequences
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Thankfully, thankfully, that girl did it in Canada, where we
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: still believe we don't actually subject women to criminal justice
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: to the same degree as men. But we aren't the UK,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: which thinks that women are don't do stuff like this.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: We aren't the UK that produced this monstrosity and has
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: gotten rid of the ability to incarcerate juvenile defender or
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: juvenile offenders if they are girls, Like they can't this
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: girl if she did it in the UK. First of all,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not even sure she would be tried as an
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: adult because they're trying, like the prosecutor for this case,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: they're going to go for an adult sentence if she
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: is found guilty. And there are so many witnesses to this,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: like she did it in a crowded hallway, So if
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: she hasn't found guilty, holy man, we have a problem.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: But if they do find her guilty, they're going to
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: pursue an adult sentence. Now this I'm not sure it
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: would happen in the UK. I mean in the UK,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: they they probably would trot out the entire zoo of
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: excuses for women's violence and maybe in the end of
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: the day. Well, first of all, she couldn't be she
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: couldn't go to a juvenile detention facility because they don't
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: have them in the UK because feminists successfully argued that
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: girls face psychological troubles when they're offenders that boys don't,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: so they got rid of them. They got rid of
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: juvenile detention facilities for girls. So she wouldn't be incarcerated anywhere.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: She might end up in like maybe a mental facility
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: if they have them in the UK, or considering how
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: the UK deals with female violence, she might just get
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I have fifty thousand dollars in a bouquet of flowers. Yeah,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: she is the real victim here I am discussed. I
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: can't I can't even believe in I'm caping for the
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Canadian justice system only in comparison to the UK justice system.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: But yeah, she's probably going to get something here, right.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, see, wouldn't be jailed.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: In the UK. She wouldn't be jailed for this, Like,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I want people to think about that. UK feminists, and
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: they're going after women's prisons too, you know, and and
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: they've been successfully in shutting down girls' prisons in the UK.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: So this girl wouldn't be incarcerated in the UK. I
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: want you to think about that. And they want to
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: do that for adult women. So if an adult woman
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: set this fourteen year old girl on fire in the UK,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: UK feminists wouldn't want her jail because she's she's secretly
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: a little angel somehow inside, right, She's she's a woman.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: She's got too many pressures. She can't be responsible for her. Meanwhile,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: we are making twelve year old boys, We're turning them
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: into scapegoats for our entire society's fuck ups. And and
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: this this gets even better as we go through. You'll
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: see how this even gets better When I say that
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: we turn boys into scapegoats for our entire societies fuck ups.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: We're gonna see an article on the telegram or telegraph
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: that that goes right into that. It's like explicitly says it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: But anyway, let's keep going.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna play more of this, Uh the
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: news story.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: I do you want to die without see? But I've
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: and I saw them walking into the school. They just
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: said they will be out.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: No jail from the girl who did the by the way,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: just no jail. You go free. You're a girl. You
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: might cut yourself, do a little scratchies on your wrist
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: or or what are we not? We're not allowed to
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: say that on YouTube? Right?
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: What? What? Well?
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: The the the logic of getting rid of juvenile detention
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: facilities in the UK for the U, for for girls
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: was they they have mental health issues like boys don't,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: and they cut themselves. We don't they they cut themselves,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: self harm, self harm. Yeah, we we don't want to
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: look at the statistics and suicide between boys and girls
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: and maybe justify getting rid of boys juvenile detention facilities
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: because of that. We're just gonna look at self harm,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: not self harm leading to death because that that that
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: you know, forget that that's not important. Yeah, all right,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: let's keep going.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: All right, I'll go back to this. This is almost over,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: so uh.
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: Look at me now.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: He is an adult woman.
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: Right, Oh yeah, brain tells you to do when.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: You're a kid, where your brain tells you to do
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: when you're a kid adolescent. So they're they're literally, they're
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: literally demonizing boys going through adolescents. Congratulations, UK, you are
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: absolutely Like, as a Canadian, I feel like I can't
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: really judge anyone because my country is total shit, Like
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: it's a total trash fire. But you meant U, K,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: you manage to be even more of a trash fire
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: than Canada.
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: How do you do that?
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Like you are demonizing boys going through when they're trying
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: to find themselves, when they're trying to find their place
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: in society. You give them a kick in the head.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Is that it just kick those little fuckers in the head.
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: It's like I woke up and I'm in a society
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: and it's deeply reliant on, for example, I don't know,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: horse labor. I can just just imagine we're in a
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: society where we need horses to do pretty much everything.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: The infrastructure, the utilities, transport, getting moving goods around. We
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: really need those horses. And I'm wake up and I'm
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: in part of a society where in the institutional narrative
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: of how you get a horse to do the best
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: work you can is you feed it sawdust and you
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: beat it till it bleeds for two hours every morning.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: And that's the world we live in.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, let's go back to listen to more
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: of this story. Oh I got a super chiw real quick,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: let me read five dollars from Zara Ax. She says
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: it's unlikely to happen, but my hope would be the
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: well known figures likely to respond to this would express
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: powerful people in the entertainment industry invest in money time.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I'm in the form of story writing, slash editing, slash revisioning,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: revisioning and advertising into a revision like revis revising and
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: advertising into a product production against a male space where
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: men communicate with each other from their bed and living
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: rooms on equipment cheaper than the cheapest cameras they'd use
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: on set. I know, yeah, I don't know. I don't
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: know if like a lot of guys in the sort
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: of like this part of the internet, the the whatever
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: you want to call it, red pill, men's issues whatever,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many of them are aware of this,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: of this trailer or this show. But and because I
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I think honestly a lot of people that talk about
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: men's issues, they're I don't think that they're tuned in
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: to see like the subtle ways that they that this
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: propaganda comes about. And they're also usually not aware of
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: like what the reality is, which is like this news story.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know that it's gonna get out there as much.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna like end up drilling down on
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: maybe missing the point a little bit, you know. So,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: But anyway, thank you for the super child, regardless you're true.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: The ambulance took the team to the hospital and she
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: was airlifted to the burn unit in Edmonton. A fourteen
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: year old girl was arrested at the scene. She was
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: charged with attempted murder, arson and aggravated assault. She told
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: police voices told her to do things. She's pleaded not guilty,
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: and she'll be back in court here in July to.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Do voices told her to do things. Okay, Yeah, Sley
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: the youngest, the youngest member of MK Ultra that I've
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: ever heard of.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll receive that successful for her.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you want me to play the rest of
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: the story. I don't know if there's I guess there's more.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, we gave the We have a little bit left
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: of the trailer, right.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: The trailer is done.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: It just okay, let's just listen.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything left.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: It's just the Netflix and have the discussion.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: Hey.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: The teen is slowly recovering at home, taking classes online,
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: talking to her friends again, and reconnecting with her favorite hobby.
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: Since this has happened, I'm not really able to play
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: as good as I used.
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: To be because.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Because I'm an artist, this really hits, you know, because
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: when your your hands are everything. Yeah, anyway, let's keep.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: Going, all right, it gets really tiring to play.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: What did you like to play? Her parents know her
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: physical and emotional recovery will take time.
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: It's very uncomfortable, but she powers through it. And burn
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: victims have to go through that journey. If you don't
• 47:13
  Speaker 7: go through that constant exercise and therapy, the healing makes
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: it worse. Scars form, it makes it worse. So she's
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: doing a tremendous job and trying to do the best
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: she can under the circumstances.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I think that's her father talking.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Mm.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: So this is the reality in part. I mean, you know,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: there's I'm not going to say that boys aren't violent
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: as well, but girls are violent. And honestly, when girls
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: are violent, they are horrifically violent, horrifically violent.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: But well, yeah, they set this girl on fire like
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: boy like well I'm saying in this in this example,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: but like when boys fight, it's usually just with their fists. Yeah,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's almost like essentially it was
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: on to just trying to establish dominance, and you know
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: that comes down to just like yeah, like physical brawling,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: but there's not usually that much I don't know, like
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: desire to like do permanent damage.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Well, yes, this is the thing that girls do. And
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: this is statistically true. So for example, when women kill
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: their spouses. Their brutality is unbelievable, whereas men tend to
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: use methods that are very quick mm hmm and don't
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: involve suffering, which is interesting. So whereas a man will
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: shoot his wife, which you know, that's not a great thing.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's good, a woman will dismember her
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: husband while she's he's alive, something like that, like that,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: that whole scene. If you've ever watched Scarface with the
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: chainsaw and the dismemberment in the shower, who you know,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: that's that's more women's style. And for example, when women
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: engage in honor killings, which women do initiate. We don't
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: know how many percentages of honor killings women initiate, but
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: it's probably substantial. But when women initiate an honor killing
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: and a man is her muscle, basically the killing tends
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: to be much quicker and more merciful. When the woman
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: does the honor killing herself, it usually is a protracted
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: torture murder and to send a message. And yeah, women
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: tend to use extremely brutal forms of violence, and they
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: and they focus on destroying, not not killing you, but
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: making your life a living hell, and then they may
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: kill you, but they want to make your life a
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: living hell for a bit before they kill you. Yeah,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: and uh yeah, this is this is this is this
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: is something that I've seen in the statistics, guys. So
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: and again, this is something that the UK is obviously
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: very invested in ignoring because it just doesn't it doesn't
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: want to recognize this about human nature. I guess, mm hmm.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: And uh yeah, this individual may see time in Canada,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: but wouldn't in the UK. The individual set this woman,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: this girl a light. Yeah, but you know, let's let's
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: let's demonize teenage boys.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's do that. Nova Fan twenty one gave
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: us another rumble rant and says, imagine if the next
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: generation of the of UK the only thriving men and
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: boys are super Andrew Tates, my sympathy towards the UK
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: have left already. Yeah, all right, so there's a little
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: bit left of this. It's like it probably is just
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: sort of winding down.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: But no, let's well, yeah, I guess we'll get well,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: we'll play it, we'll finish it up.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, A long journey, yes, but it comes with a
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: soundtrack by Metallica of course Dan Zecresky, CBC News, Saskatoon,
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: all right, yeah, so.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: I thought I thought that would be a good counterpoint
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: to the BBC agit prop for for multiple reasons. First
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: of all, it it is an act of horrific brutality
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: by a girl, even though the victim is also a girl.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's relevant, to be honest, And uh
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: it it shows that in reality, the mother and the
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: father are doing everything they can to make sure that
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: their daughter heals from this and to support her. And
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: that's more of the real of an intact family than
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: what the BBC is showing. And honestly, I mean, I
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: can't conjecture, all right, I will conjecture, but I would
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: imagine that the girl who did this is probably not
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: from an intact family. The likelihood is low. And yeah,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: so the father and the mother are trying to take
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: care of their kid who's dealing with something horrific. That is,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: that is more like what a family would be like
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: as opposed to what the BBC is showing. And that
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: the person who likely saved her life was a male teacher. Yeah,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: so I thought that would be a counterpoint, shall we say,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: and this is reality, not BBC's manufacture bullshit in which
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: we decide to turn twelve year old boys into our scapegoats.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing that Laura Bates is salivating over this and
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: now now and she gets to sexualize even younger boys.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: That's the other thing this this, as far as I
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: can tell, this show had this kid exposed to an
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: in cell guidance counselor she's more likely to be exposed
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: to feminists and unsavory feminine savory interest in the sexuality
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: of very young boys. Yeah, it was a male teacher.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: The in cell was a male teacher. Oh yeah, okay,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: so that we have the direct comparison in the one
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: the BBC uh dramatization of their own inside of their
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: own id that the male teacher was the source of
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: the manisphere alert and an insul in this one, in reality,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: the male teacher was a hero who himself could have
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: died protecting this girl. There you go, guys, and we
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: want to lie so much about ourselves.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So do we want to look at
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: the article in which they described the stuff that they
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: were looking at, or do we want to look at
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: the Telegraph article on this this video or this series.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about the the Tim Oh, yeah, this
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: one by Tim Stanley at Last, the TV drama is
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: so good it made me grateful for life. I have
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: been transfixed this week by a new series that raises
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: deep questions about manhood and modern society.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Modern SASA.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I'll read through some of it. I did kind of
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: gloss over it, and yeah, there's definitely some juicy bits
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: in here. So so I just want to say before
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: I get too much into this. In the next hour,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: there's a maintenance guy coming and he needs to get
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: into this room because our maintenance closet is in the
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: room where I do the show. So I'll have to, like,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: you know, I can't go for longer than like another
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: half hour. I'm sorry, because he's going to be in
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: here unless I turn off my camera and let him
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: do that while you talk, you know, if you want
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: to go like that much longer.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: So, oh, here's another snippet of the story. The real
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: life story parents of two to fifteen year old girls
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: at Evan Hardy College eight and Saskatoon said they went
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: to police. Oh, I probably shouldn't have said that, And
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: the school multiple times between June and August twenty twenty four,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: with concerns about escalating online threats from the student now
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: accused of setting one of the girls on fire in
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: a school hallway. So there was actually significant warning and
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: the parents were trying to get something done about it.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: That must really hit he's imagined that. Oh man, I
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: guess if you're if you're getting threats from a girl, Like,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: if your daughter or son is getting threats from a
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: girl in a school and they're not doing anything about it,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: I would suggest just pulling them out of school. Like,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: because although Canada isn't as bad as the UK, we
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: certainly don't take women's violence seriously. Okay, let's go, let's
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: go and do the article.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, okay. Adolest Sense, a TV drama that follows
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: the arrest of a thirteen year old boy for murder,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: holds no surprises for teachers. It stands out in an
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: era of overproduced draws for its elegant simplicity. A single camera,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: one take, it dips in and out of the justice
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: process in real time.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: As a surprise teachers.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because apparently this is something that no teachers
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: deal with all the time. As if evesdropping on an
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: everyday tragedy. This is the kind of relevant drama, relevant
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: drama the BBC insists only it can make. Yet it's
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Netflix that's gone and done it. Each episode is set
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: in an institution, copshop, school, detution center that seems to fuss.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: And this was the whole concept of this was like
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: a very special episode. I just heard my dog barks.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: I'll be right back going. That seems to function solely
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: to keep a lid on violence. Its energy so distracted
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: that it has no time for its official job. A
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: friend texted, that's the best representation of a high school
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen on TV. Why Because they're always watching videos.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: The students are kept in class to keep them off
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: the streets. One of them bolts through an open window,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: and the adults seem to know less about life than
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: the kids do. The police cannot fathom why the boy
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: called Jamie stabbed to death a nice girl who apparently
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: liked him till a gormless teen translates her Instagram messages
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: she was mocking him with emojis. Jamie had asserted his manhood,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: so apparently he stabbed her to death because she challenged
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: his manhood. And that's usually how men respond right by
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: stabbing women to death.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: That that's the femine.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think Andrew Tate pre says this.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: No, No, she was mocking him with emojis. Jamie had
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: asserted his manhood. That Andrew Tate shite moans a copper
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: as if Tate a fascistic online influencer. Do you guys
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: know he was fascistic corrupting serpent in the garden of childhood?
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Are they missing a verb there? Yeah, they're missing a verb.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well was a corrupting.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Serpent in the garden of childhood? Except that I guess
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: the implication is that the real the real monster is
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: boy's puberty or something. But that Jamie had asserted his
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: manhood really yeah.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: By stabbing a girl death. That's how did.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: This girl who set this other girl on fire assert
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: her womanhood?
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I don't think they have an answer to that. That
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: didn't happen, yea.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Or uk, that didn't happen, Well, certainly did. She's not
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: going to jail for it there all right, so he
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: had Okay, why did they just get away with this bullshit?
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: He had asserted his manhood? Yeah, okay, yet no, that
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: is not what manhood is considered to.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Be pundits have leapt on the show as an indictment
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: of the contemporary manisphere. One columnist was given the unfortunate headline,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: if you know a thirteen year old boy, talk to
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: him about what being a man is, which sounds like
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: a perverts charter. But this is a very old plot. Yeah, no, shit,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: lord of lies. Oh I'm sorry, go ahead, Okay, So.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Well again, we're talking about boys that majority come from
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: single mother households, that don't have a single man in
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: their life. They're part of man deserts, which you know
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: the UK recognizes. They even that's where the term man
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: desert came from. But apparently we're going to blame a
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: boy who has an intact family, has a father, has
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: male role role models. So this problem comes from the
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: man deserts with no men in them. But look at
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: this boy, He's completely surrounded by men and he is
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: the problem. Do you see Do you see how this
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: is absolutely like they just do not want to see
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: what the problem is.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Well that they don't. They don't want no because it
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: challenges their own power because.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Worse, or maybe they just don't want to recognize that
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: when they're in power things are getting worse, because then
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: that would that would tend to have people question the
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: legitimacy of what they're doing. But like this boy realistically
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: in actual reality, which the Netflix I guess it wasn't
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: the BBC that did this was. Netflix doesn't exist within
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: because it's fiction. This boy would come from a man
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: desert and they are The UK already recognizes this is
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: a big problem. It wouldn't come from an intact family
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: with male role models and a male teacher, right, this
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: boy would be more likely to be victim a girl
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: from the man desert then the other way around. Let's
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: be honest. Mm hmm, all right's be honest. Okay, all right,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Victim she saluted around, I mean victim is in she
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: stabbed him for his freaking I don't know, twiglets, a snack.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Lord of the Flies, Blackboard, jungle gum. All these dramas
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: dealt with the problem of a young male anger, and
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: the writers of Adolescents, Jack Throne and Stephen Graham imply
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: it is innate and cyclical. Ah see cyclical. The dad
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: is to blame. I'm problem feeling you. Jamie's dad once
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: tore down the shed in fury. His father beat him.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: The script reads like a meditation on the Christian concept
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: of original sin, a misunderstood idea modern folk like to
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: believe the individual Yeah, go ahead, all right.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Go back up. I've actually watched. Well, first of all,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Lord of the Flies, there was a real Lord of
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: the Flies incident. It did not actually happen at all
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: the way they thought the Lord of the Flies was envisioned.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: What happened was the boys actually constructed a working society
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: in which they were quite healthy and fed somehow. But
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: of course I think they had like they had survival
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: skills and stuff like that. So who knows. Maybe if
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: you took a whole bunch of male feminists and put
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: them in a place without lattes, they would descend into
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: the Lord of the Flies. But but Blackboard Jungle, that one.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: That was a very sympathetic look much more about how
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: the circumstances these boys found themselves in were sort of
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: distorting them and they just needed somebody to give a crap, right,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: And I don't know where they're coming from with this
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Christian concept of original sin. All right, let's keep going, all.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Right, Modern folk like to believe that individuals are born
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: as blank sheets. Of paper and corrupted by outside forces,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: by poverty, racism, etc. So original sin has been dismissed
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: as an unhealthy hangover from the age when kids were
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: written off as wicked and frequently caned No, no, boys, boys,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: not kids. This gets matters upside down. Original sin says
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: we are born to be good, but are surrounded by
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: temptations we find hard to resist due to a mix
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: of nature and nurture. I remember, around the age of
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: thirteen watching a friend cheerfully tear the legs off a spider.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I meant to say off, but he wrote of I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: was too desperate to be liked to stop him. What. Okay.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Acknowledging the potential for violence and all boys is the
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: first step towards managing it through discipline and moral education.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Yet our society not only denies the essential character of
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: human beings, it is oddly putitive towards those who pointed
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: out strict head teachers are called elitist. Psychiatrists who tell
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: men to man up are labeled toxic. Meanwhile, energy this
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: is actually more sympathetic in a way.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in a way. However, I still think that Okay,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: all right, let's see where it goes.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: All right. Meanwhile, over energetic boys are stuck on medication,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: and a handful of particularly confused cases are turned into girls.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: The doctrine of perpetual kindness, never label and never judge,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: turns out to be cruel. In effect. It doesn't teach us.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: To don't think kind towards.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Worse, it leaves us lumbered with it.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think we're being kind towards boys. Where
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: is he getting this from? Where did he see kindness
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: towards boys in this video? In this movie?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: No idea?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: And in fact, are we getting rid of juvenile detention
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: facilities in the UK for boys?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: So if anything, Like it's almost this tone death inability
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: to recognize what actually is happening right in front of him.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: There's no kindness towards boys in this mm hmm, all right,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: let's all right.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: There's a lot in here, like he gets kind of
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: off chart here, but uh, I don't know why he's
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: talking about Christianity like that's relevant, but going, let's keep going,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: all right, okay, Okay, it's you know, what will happen
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: to Jamie? Do you imagine the community will ever forgive him?
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Or if he comes to terms with what he's done,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: he'll ever forgive himself. In a godless world, it is
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: easy to die defined by the worst thing you ever did.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: In the Christian view, Jamie must be punished, obviously, Yet God,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: the judge who loves, accompanies him from the crime to
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: the cell, never abandoning him, willing him to repent. Christianity,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: far from being guilt obsessed, operates almost an industry of
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: guilt relief, as whitening as dazz or restorative as penicillin,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: offering prayers and sacraments to help you face yourself and
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: free yourself to start all over again. Progress can take
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: a lifetime. That's why growing up is actually a wonderful thing.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Many have praised a superbly acted scene between Jamie and
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: a psychiatrist in which he alternates between a terrified boy
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: who complains about the pickle in his sandwich and a
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: man who throws his chair and screams, what did you
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: think about me? That's the heart of it. Teenagers imagine
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: the world is looking at them and laughing. I don't
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: think it's a a man throws his chair. I don't
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: agree with that, Like, why do they associate this when
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: boys become violent that's an expression of masculinity. Why do
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: they keep doing that?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Literally, not like they're calling out men for associating violence
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: with masculinity, when that's literally what feminists do. Something I
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: said like a whole while back, well before I Andrew Tate,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: I said, the way that feminists construct manhood, the last
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: pro social, vaguely pro social identity men will have will
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: be playboy. And what happened, mm hmmm, noah. And and
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: this is all a reflection of what you as these
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: institutional powers, are putting into to the world about men
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: and boys. They literally make the association between masculinity and violence,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: and then they blame that association on the boys themselves.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: And the other thing is that he's talking a lot
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: about Christian guilt and all that. It feels very platitudey
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: because literally what happening is a whole shit ton of
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: guilt is being put on a group that doesn't deserve it.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, it seems like out of place.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know, yeah, it just seems like it's
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: tone death while another group is being framed as completely
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: guiltless by virtue of being female. It's the only reason
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: why you would ever get rid of juvenile detention facilities
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: for girls. It's because you think that they're blameless because
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: they're female, right, Okay.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Richard Bierre gives us five dollars superchow and says, the
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: real life Lord of the Flies boys not only constructed
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: a self sufficient society, but they did it with out
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: socialized healthcare too. One of the boys did suffer a broken.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Leg though, Yeah, but they it healed actually quite well.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: They set it and surprisingly they did where they were
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: doing really well, and they had a hierarchy. But like
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: boys do of merit generally. Yeah, So if you're if
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: you're the if you're the boy that sets bones better
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: than other boys, then you you're like you have you're
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: the top of the medical hierarchy. And if you're the
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: boy that you know gets crabs better than other boys,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: and you're there's the top of the crab getting hierarchy,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: you know, like that's that's the way. And often and
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: this is this is the misnomer about men's hierarchies. Men's
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: hierarchies are very fluid and generally based on whether or
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: not you are and this is an outside of observation, still,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: you know, take it with a grain of salt generally
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: based on whether or not you're good at something. Yeah,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: I mean there there usually is a hierarchy of of
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: leader ship, but that's also based on whether or not
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: you're good at leading.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's do uh okay. Well, recently our world
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: has started doing just that. Social media is a narcissist mirror,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: a stage for validation and ridicule, and a playground where
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: the bullying goes unpoliced.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Who's it's girls?
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Yep, although there there are now there are. I still
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: I still uh say that that social media is called
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: of duty for girls, and I think it still is.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: I think it is like dominated by women. It is
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: dominated by the female perspective. But that is starting to
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: affect boys. So I've seen articles now where boys like
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: zoomer boys and and Generation Alpha boys are having the
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: same kind of like body image, let's say, struggles that
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: girls have had and and social media might be one
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: of the ways, like, but it's like it's expressing a
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: different way. So like Lindsay and I started going to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: the gym a couple of weeks ago. We go like
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: three times a week. We just you know, finally saved
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: up the money to be able to go, and I
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: noticed that there was a lot of like young guys
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: there and they're like, you know, they're not They're they're
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: not just going to the gym to like stay healthy.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: They're trying to like get a certain kind of body,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: and they're using you know, like supplements and stuff. But
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: also there's a lot of like like influencers for bodybuilding
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: out there that are then the boys are doing kind
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: of unhealthy things, like they're taking you know, like certain
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: substances to help and it's because they're trying to like
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: stand out, so like and obviously what it's I'm not
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: saying it's the same, but I think that this this
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: thing that we're not addressing that women are doing to
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: each other online is starting to bleed over and affect
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: young men now because the men are I mean, they've
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: always been concerned about their height, right, but they never
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: took steps, like drastic steps to actually like try to
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: make themselves taller until recently. But that's also now happening
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: with their muscular show. They're trying to become buff because
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: they want to attract girls. Like that's what it's coming from,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: and so they're they're taking you know, you know performance
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: enhancing substances so that they can keep up. But it's
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: happening that these guys are starting really young. Like I
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: know that, like guys have been doing steroids for a
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: long time or other things, but this is like they're
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: starting really young now and they're in the gym. That's
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: why I said this, because I see these guys in
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: the gym. I can tell because first of all, they're
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: extremely intense. They're hopping around like they're on something, and
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: they're taking pictures of themselves and like you know, going
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: posting pictures of their progress on media. So I do
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: think it's starting to affect boys a bit too. You know,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: I only speak from my anecdotal experience, and I don't
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: think it's widespread, but I do think that it's starting
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: to happen.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Well, But the bullying is often perpetrated by the girls.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: This is the thing.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: We aren't talking about girls and women.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: Although I mean, like you have to wonder, like, are
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: there not girls also bullying the boys for not having
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: a certain kind of a Well, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: The boys, I'm not doing it to each other. I
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: don't think that's happening, but I think that yeah, I
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: think that it's.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think boys are bullying each other over
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: not having the perfect six pack, right, but oh yeah, so,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: But what I want to point out about this particular
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: article is he talks about managing boys violence. So there's
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: this quality of like, the violence is inherent and the
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: violence is not not not the violence of for example,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: altruistic punishment, where boys and men will go out of
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: their way to sacrifice in order to uphold the more
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: of society against criminals. But this, this is this impression
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: that the violence that he's talking about is almost criminal violence.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: And it's like you have to manage boys otherwise they
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: all become little criminals. And it's almost like there's this
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: this competition between on I'm going to say, the right,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: please don't get offended, the right who thinks that society
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: makes boys good, and the left, who thinks that they're
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: going to use that perception of the inherent violence of boys.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: They're going to deny that that is indeed a bio
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: a bio truth that they're using, and they're going to say,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: give us power so we control it, right, And it's
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: like it's both wrong because normal men protect their social group, period.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: They protect it from criminals, and they protect it from
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: violent outsiders. That is the normal form of male violence.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: It's pro social, and the criminal form of male violence
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: is is not normal to men. And if you took
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: men and you just put them like you took boys
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: and you put them on the island, and this has
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: been proven. They just construct the little society to help
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: each other and and and manage the what's going on right,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: There's there's no inherent evil to boys and men. Yeah,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: And I know that maybe I'm I'm being offensive perhaps
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: to Christians when I say that, I don't think there
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: is like, there's no inherent evil to boys and men.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think that there. I think that I think
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: the idea of guilt is about being humble. But I
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: don't think there's an inherent evil to boys and men.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: And of course the left would not would never admit
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: that they believe that there's inherent evil to boys and men,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: never in a million years. But that's functionally what they believe.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: And right here we're seeing I guess it was in
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: the Netflix, maybe in conjunction with BBC constructing a narrative
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: that's blaming a systemic social problem, which is what the
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: man deserts are a symptom of a systemic social problem,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: the symptom of the failure of UK institutions. It's also
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: i mean it's not just the UK, but right, we're
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: talking about the UK now. The man deserts that produce
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: these violent, feral children are a symptom of institution. Institutional
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: failure on the part of the UK, social failure on
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: the part of the UK, the sympstemic failure, and also
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: individual failure. Right, But there's a whole bunch of policies
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: that lead to the production of man deserts. And the
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: honest to God truth is they are blaming a twelve
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: year old boy and his father and the one teacher
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: in his life's probably male for a problem that comes
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: from an absence of men, not the presence of men.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: Do you see what I'm saying, the absence of men.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: And in reality, this boy with the father, with the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: male mentor, he would more likely be a victim of
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: a girl from a man desert than he would ever
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: be the perpetrator of a crime. Right, So they're completely
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: distorting the situation to evade guilt, their own guilt and
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: their own need to question what they're promoting. I was
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: thinking about this. We are promoting single motherhood in our societies.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: This is destroying children. And I was talking to Kenna
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: recently and she probably will talk about this too. But
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: one of her co workers, apparently works was working with
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: juvenile offenders and has described to her how they've changed
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: over the years. Now. Of course, they've always come mostly
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: from single mother homes and which we have incentivized. We've
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: chosen to incentivize this behavior. They've always come from single
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: mother homes. But previous generations, he could appeal to honor, or,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: he could appeal to and even if honor didn't work,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: he could appeal to causality. But this current generation, we're
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: now on like three or four generations of single motherhood.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: So there's no grandfathers in the picture. There's probably no uncles,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: there's no male teachers anywhere. There's no mister Chips anymore,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: you know, or the guy in not the one that
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: after Blackboard Jungle. There's there's nobody in that. Nobody right,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: So there's no men. There's a complete man desert, and
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: has been a man desert for generations. These kids are
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: coming out and they don't understand causality. Right, They ban
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: together in little groups, and they're essentially tribal mentality, So
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: they don't understand the causality of a larger system that
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: they're part of anymore. They're completely feral, right, they don't
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: understand the morality of a larger system. Okay, So they
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: would kill and rape someone, quill and grape someone and
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: not think of it as a crime, a real crime
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: because they didn't do it to one of their members
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: of their gang. True tribal mentality, as in, you can
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: do whatever you want to people outside of your tribe
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: because they're not really human. You can turn them into livestock,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: you can torture, murder them, and you can still consider
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: yourself a good person after having done so. That's the
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: kind of mentality now, right. They don't have these higher
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: order functions anymore, and that's because it's several generations. Now,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: we're several generations now into them and these institutions, what
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: are they doing.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: All?
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: The real problem is a boy who has a father
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: who is being mentored by a male teacher. That's the
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: real problem. Let's get rid of all male influence. They
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: are literally advocating for the very thing that has constructed
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: the problem right here by condemning and demonizing relationships between men,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: the relationship between a father and son, the relationship between
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: a male teacher and his pupil. They're demonizing it. They
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: want to get rid of it all, Like as if
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: the social chaos that we're dealing with from the man
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  Speaker 2: deserts now isn't enough.
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  Speaker 6: They want to.
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  Speaker 2: Make it a man uninhabited moon. They want to make
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  Speaker 2: their earth completely. They want to get rid of all fatherhood,
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  Speaker 2: they want to get rid of all male mentorship. And
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: they somehow want there not to be Andrew Tates to
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: take advantage of the Lloyd. Yep, oh, good lord, we
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  Speaker 2: are we are this is this is This is peak
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  Speaker 2: T Tom's festival, guys, and not the not the cutesy,
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  Speaker 2: charming te Tom's festival of like Eric the Red. No,
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  Speaker 2: this is T Tom's festival. If the people of High
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  Speaker 2: Brazil were just vicious assholes. Okay, well, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean that's the end of the article.
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  Speaker 2: Really yeah, well, let's let's take a look at the
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  Speaker 2: next article from the Telegram.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Love this.
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  Speaker 1: Young men unprepared to fight for Britain, says former Defense secretary.
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  Speaker 2: So you don't have to read but a few paragraphs
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  Speaker 2: and go ahead, let's take a look.
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  Speaker 1: Young men are totally unprepared to fight a war for Britain,
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  Speaker 1: the former Defense Secretary Lord Hammond has warned as he
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  Speaker 1: called for radical changes to combat the threat of Russian aggression.
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  Speaker 1: But Tory Pierre, also a former chancellor, said the UK
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  Speaker 1: must cut spending on benefits and pensions to help rebuild
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  Speaker 1: its defense while also preparing citizens mentally for the potential
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  Speaker 1: risk of conflict. Yeah, men, men. He has weighed into
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: the debate on defense amid fears over readability. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: On a podcast, Lord Hammond said.
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  Speaker 2: A bit, I just don't want to do the politics others. Oh,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: you know what, let's just go through it. Let's play
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  Speaker 2: through it.
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  Speaker 1: It's not about drafting men for war or like talking
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  Speaker 1: about war and sending men off to war.
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  Speaker 2: The second paragraph after that one, do you see the
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  Speaker 2: yeah that they should. The UK should be upping its
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: defense spending. It should be working on making its preparedness,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: his defense preparedness better. The whole conversation about Russian and
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump is sort of a red herring. I don't
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: want to get into it. I don't want to start like,
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  Speaker 2: there's plenty to say about it. I'm not saying it's invalid.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just this is not the point I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: make go down. There's that graphic. There is a paragraph.
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  Speaker 2: Read the two paragraphs.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing in our economy or our society is geared to
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  Speaker 1: those needs of the moment. That's if you go outside
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  Speaker 1: into the street here on a sunny afternoon in the
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  Speaker 1: city of London and stop random men in their twenties
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  Speaker 1: and thirties and ask them how ready they are to
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  Speaker 1: drop their pens and computers and head off to the
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: recruiting station, I think we will get a pretty clear answer.
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  Speaker 1: There's a major societal shift going to be required. It
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  Speaker 1: is not just about money. It is about the organization
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: of the economy, and it is about the orientation of society.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So men, as we've seen from what this
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: BBC a netflix effort, men are unwanted in society until
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: it comes time to sacrifice for society's ass and failures,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: political and diplomatic failures. Let's be honest, how is this
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: this There's a serious amount of chets. But and you
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  Speaker 2: know that this is also like this isn't just politicians
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: in the UK on the right. It's also politicians on
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: the left, even though those two terms don't really apply
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  Speaker 2: to the UK, I'll use them. They do expect this
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  Speaker 2: so simultaneously with demonizing boys and of course also demonizing
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  Speaker 2: their inherent violence. We need it. We need it to
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: keep our society safe. We give boys no place except
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: on the front line. What a kink bunch of bullshit
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: like this is? Yeah, okay, whatever, what Well, I don't
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: think that and I don't think that that's I don't
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  Speaker 2: think a society that gives boys any place deserves them
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  Speaker 2: dying for it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know what else to say. I just
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to point that out. All of this,
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  Speaker 2: all of this, I know it's a little bit, it's
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: been a bit of a wild ride, but I think
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  Speaker 2: that again, they're shutting down juvenile detention facilities, so that
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: girl who set that other girl alight in the UK
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: just be walking down the street because there'd be nowhere
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: to put her, because she's not really a criminal, because
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: she's self harms or or girls self harm. Not gonna
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: look at the suicide statistics and say, well, I mean,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of boys committing suicide. Maybe we should
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: shut down boys detention facilities for the same reason. No,
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  Speaker 2: just the self harm, just when girls do it, even
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: though when boys do it they kill themselves. It's just
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: when girls do it that we care.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: And yeah, so this is just the whole pack pack
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: of lies and bullshit, all right, yeah, do you want
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: me to I you know what, I forgot to do
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: the things. Geez, the E word is the really bad word. Okay,
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• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: were going to do a response, a requested response, but
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  Speaker 2: then the individual who requested it decided he wanted to
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: do a bit more work on the context, so we
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  Speaker 2: had to do We had to put something together that
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: was a little quick. But I hope you enjoyed it
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  Speaker 2: insofar as you can enjoy a topic like this. Yeah, yeah, right,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: but yeah, like just to conclude, like, don't don't die
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  Speaker 2: for Britain? Are you fucking mental? Like, don't like not
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: until they knock this shit off and they and they
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  Speaker 2: and they resume imprisoning girls who engage in violence, and
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: not just boys, and stop blaming boys for it, Stop
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: blaming boys for institutional failures. Stop pretending that these problems
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: come from bothers when they one under statistically do not
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  Speaker 2: at all. They come from man deserts, which are a
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: result of your own policies. What a surprise the politicians
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: prefer to. What a surprise that we have learned nothing
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: since World War One? We prefer to let the boys
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: take the brunt of our bullshit, our failures, all right,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: it's no different. This is them letting a boy take
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: the brunt of their own bullshit and their own failures
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: and pointing fingers where they feel it's politically, socially and
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: emotionally convenient because they're cowards, all right. So anyway, if
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• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: lot of evading the problem going on. In my opinion,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: people just don't want to deal with it. They don't
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: want to deal with it because quite frankly, nobody wants
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: to criticize single mothers. Simple as that.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: Well, they claim that single mothers are treated like unfairly
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: and there they get criticized too much. Really, so yeah
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, wait till Mother's Day comes around,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: you'll see they'll be like single moms are We need
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: to stop shaming them because they're they're doing the most
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: difficult job on the planet.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: Apparently, Apparently, according to this and this juvenile, this guy
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: who works with juveniles, a lot of these women are
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: just leaving the house at in the morning. They don't
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: do anything for their kids. The kids have to send
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: themselves to school, their kids to feed themselves, The kids
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: have to take care of themselves, They have to buy
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: the necessities over whatever is left over, their mother spends
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: it on partying. Yeah, this is this is the most
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: difficult job in the world, is it. No, we do
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: need we need to blame women until we can blame
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: women with the same facility and ease as we blame men,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: all right, So we're gonna and look at this. We
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: blame a father who probably isn't who is most likely
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: not part of the problem. But we do not blame
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: where the problem actually lies. And if if if it
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: was men, if men were in the roles of single mothers,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: you damn well bet they would be being blamed. They
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: will be in for a whole world of guilt and
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: blame if they were occupying the role that single mothers do.
• 1:28:49
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