Latest / Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman / Dr. Gladys McGarey - The Well-Lived Life
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- 0:04My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice. I've always been
- 0:10fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and the crossroads at which they meet.
- 0:17Join me now and we will explore these topics and so much more with
- 0:22fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to Destination Unlimited. We
- 0:33all want to know the secret to leading a long, happy life, so
- 0:38who better to ask than someone who is one hundred two years old and all
- 0:44the more qualified as a doctor and the mother of holistic medicine. This expert
- 0:50is my guest this week on Destination Unlimited, doctor Gladys McGarry. Doctor McGarry
- 0:56shares a philosophy for living life to the fullest that is thousands of patients and
- 1:00that has guided her life for more than a century. Her website is Gladys
- 1:06McGarry dot com and she joins me this week to share her amazing path and
- 1:11new book of a Well Lived Life. A one hundred two year old Doctor's
- 1:17six Secrets to Health and Happiness at Every age. Please join me in welcoming
- 1:23to Destination Unlimited, doctor Gladys McGarry. Welcome, doctor McGarry. Thank you
- 1:30very much, Doctor McGarry. Please share with our listeners your early path and
- 1:34how it led to your calling as a physician. Well, my parents were
- 1:40medical missionaries in India in the north, the foothills of the Himalayas, and
- 1:46they went to India nineteen fourteen when World War One was in full bloom.
- 1:53The U boats were in the water and so on. But they got to
- 1:57Bombay and went up North India and I was born in India. In fact,
- 2:02my mother went into labor at the taj Mahal with me. Anyway,
- 2:10it was a very wonderful way to grow up in the with my parents taking
- 2:17their medical work back into the jungles of North India. And the beautiful thing
- 2:24is that I watched them work with the village people who had nothing really in
- 2:32the way of life things. They had their their house and their children and
- 2:39the you know what, they lived by or with, but they had nothing
- 2:46in the way huge shit events that they could call their own. However,
- 2:51my parents brought their medical work there and all they had in equipment was a
- 2:59trunk wad had some things in it and attend and we lived in tent.
- 3:04So as far as a medical equipment or anything like that, they didn't have
- 3:10much, but they had hearts full of love, and it's what they brought
- 3:16to the people of India who were the forgotten ones. The essence of what
- 3:25I came to understand heally was all about. And so when I was two
- 3:31years old, I let my parents know that I was a doctor too.
- 3:37And the thing was that my dolls or the ones that got sick. So
- 3:40my sister wouldn't let me play with her dolls because my mine were the ones
- 3:46who had to be taken care of. That kind of reality in a world
- 3:53that is well, you know, how real is that? That's as real
- 4:00as you get. Absolutely in India they believe in reincarnation. Do you think
- 4:04that you were reincarnated and had been a physician in a past life? Yes,
- 4:10many times. Wow, that's wonderful, that's wonderful. You had the
- 4:14opportunity, the wonderful opportunity to meet Mahatma Gandhi as a child. What did
- 4:19you learn from him? You know, I was ten years old. We
- 4:24were just on the way to come back to the United States because every seven
- 4:30and a half years, my parents had a furrow and they got to come
- 4:33home to their family and so on. But we were on the train and
- 4:36we were going from Murky to Bombay, and the train came to a station
- 4:46and was slowing down, but there was this huge crowd of people of India
- 4:50always has crowds of people, but this was a whole crowd of people that
- 4:55was chanting. And in front of the crowd was a a man walking along,
- 5:00a small man dressed in a tooti which is the Indian loincloth, and
- 5:09walking with a staff, and people were chanting, Gandhiji, Gandhiji. So
- 5:15I, you know, I knew about Gandhi. But in the train with
- 5:20my face pasted against the window, trying to see what's going on out there,
- 5:27and I saw the Gandhi stop that they had the crowd and reached down
- 5:34and take a flower from a little girl, and his face was just on
- 5:41in line with mine, my face planted on the window and his face in
- 5:47front of me. And when he looked up from that little girl looked up,
- 5:53he looked straight into my eyes. Now, I can never explain to
- 5:59anybody else except myself what it was that happened, But at that point there
- 6:04was a connection between Gandhi and me, and I knew it, and I
- 6:10knew that he knew it, and there was a reality that didn't leave me.
- 6:16In fact, it was held within our family in that when in the
- 6:24partition of India happened and Gandhi was working with the Hindus and Muhammadans trying to
- 6:30get themselves to stop killing each other, my parents they worked with him in
- 6:39that they had a little medical unit that they took and went to the camps
- 6:45of where this was going on and helped with the healing and the burying and
- 6:49the dead and all of that. And they worked from the platform to talk
- 6:57to the people like on the stage with Gandhi enough so that they became friends.
- 7:03And Gandhi gave my mother a Kashmir shawl which I have in my closet
- 7:10here, and my dad a pan blanket. So it was that kind of
- 7:15a of a family into a personal relationship with me extended into the ongoing family
- 7:26relationship which was the love and healing of the people of India and Gandhi our
- 7:36messages were the same. Of course, I wasn't there at that time.
- 7:41I was in college. And what year did you begin your medical practice depends
- 7:47on what you no. I started medical school in September of forty one,
- 7:58nineteen forty one, and the World War two started in December December seventh,
- 8:03nineteen forty one. So all during my training we were taught about killing.
- 8:13The whole focus of medicine was killing diseases and getting rid of pain, and
- 8:22so that's that's what I learned, but I really didn't learned. I didn't
- 8:31accept that to be the whole picture, because I knew what I had experienced
- 8:37personally, and I was asking questions or doing something that was bad enough that
- 8:45the dean of the medical school sent me to the psychiatrist two different times,
- 8:52and the psychiatrist sent me back and said, no, I was okay to
- 8:54become a woman doctor. There were very few women do chers at the time.
- 9:01I was in the only women's medical college in the country. We started
- 9:05with twenty five with fifty students and ended up with twenty five. Because the
- 9:13concept was it was going to be harder and for men for us to do
- 9:18it, and we were supposed to be smarter and tougher and so on.
- 9:22So it was it was in nineteen forty one that I was introduced to the
- 9:30medical community, the allopathic medical community. But it was in nineteen forty six
- 9:41that I actually started my practice after getting going through my residency and so on,
- 9:48And what bias did you experience as a woman physician in the early years
- 9:52of your practice. I can't tell things like this. Well, it was
- 9:58thought telling stories. So when I started my internship at Diginess Hospital in Cincinnati,
- 10:07they had never had a woman doctor there before, and so they had
- 10:13places for men to sleep when they were on call, but there was no
- 10:18place for me. So I had an X ray table and a blanket and
- 10:24a pillow. But I didn't mind that because I was so pleased to have
- 10:31gotten the internship, the training, and so on. So I was more
- 10:35interested in what I was able to receive that it was the fact that they
- 10:41didn't think I was well, I don't know what you know. I wasn't
- 10:46accepted by the medical community, and the resident on in the community of the
- 10:52hospital there was so sure that I didn't belong that he kind of made it
- 10:58his mission to get me out. I had met my husband and he was
- 11:05in medical school, and when I was doing my internship, I was pregnant
- 11:11with my first son, and this in this resident knew three things. One
- 11:18that women did belong in medicine too, that I didn't belong in medicine,
- 11:24and certainly pregnant women didn't belong in medicine. So with those three things,
- 11:31he gave me the opportunities to work with the surgeons in their surgery. But
- 11:41he gave me the hardest, the ones that started earliest in the morning,
- 11:50surgical procedures. So I'd start at seven o'clock and be on my feet without
- 11:56food for five hours maybe, and I was just hanging on by the skin
- 12:03of my teeth. But I had one thing that I was working with,
- 12:07and that was that there was no way he was going to get me out
- 12:13of this, and he certainly wasn't going to kill this baby that I was
- 12:16carrying, So so I hung in there. But then all through my life
- 12:22this has happened a live people become angels for me. So one night in
- 12:31the middle of a about two o'clock in the morning, I was there on
- 12:35call on my with my blanket and my pillow, and so I had a
- 12:43call to go down to the to the floor. I got off my table
- 12:48and walked down the hall past where the list was where we were our schedule,
- 12:58and always my name was at the top of the list. But I
- 13:01come down this time, and Lucille, who was a little the little maid
- 13:07on our floor who did the cleaning and so on. She had pulled a
- 13:11chair up and was erasing by name at the top at seven o'clock and putting
- 13:20Carl Ferber's name done at about eight o'clock or so. She really saved my
- 13:30life. And it was like if she you know, if she had been
- 13:35caught, she would have lost her job. She saw what I was working
- 13:41with and how I was struggling to make this happen, and she stepped up,
- 13:48and interestingly enough that this sudden that I was carrying became an orthopedic surgeon.
- 13:56So he got his trading in utero too. That's wonderful. And this
- 14:03woman had the empathy and the compassion and the courage to do the right thing.
- 14:09Throughout my life there have been I call the Livie Angels. What changes
- 14:16in medicine have you witnessed over the last sixty years. It depends on what
- 14:22aspect of medicine we're looking at. The whole field of medicine, in my
- 14:26opinion, still has not grasped the fact that, well, what we were
- 14:33taught in medical school and must still being focused on, is that the body
- 14:41and the mind and the whole concept that beyond that, there was nothing that
- 14:48they want to work with. And we're better about it now because after we
- 14:52started the American Holistic Medical Association and you started the work that you're doing and
- 15:00began to work and look at higher aspect of Healey's it has changed. But
- 15:07still the focus is on killing disease and eradicating pain. In fact enough so
- 15:18that when I was in medical school, when a woman was in labor,
- 15:24what we did and my first two sons I birthed this way. A woman
- 15:28was completely anesthetized, so it was called twilight sleep, completely anesthetized, so
- 15:35that when she was but it was time for her to push, she couldn't
- 15:41push. We had to use force ups to deliver her. And I was
- 15:48very good at this. We were well trained in doing that. I was
- 15:52able to help with him after coming head and a baby and saw it.
- 15:58But what we did, in the process of trying to eliminate the pain and
- 16:08labor, take away the power of all the women that we're having babies.
- 16:15We just did. To this day we talk about having to be delivered by
- 16:22our babies. That shouldn't be said. We don't need to be delivered by
- 16:27our babies. We birth our babies. Doctors are there when midwives are there
- 16:33to help, and all of that is very, very important, But the
- 16:38whole concept that we have taken away are very essence as women of being the
- 16:48people that can birth can not only can who have to birth the baby.
- 16:55And so my focus has been to help us reclaim the whole concept of loving
- 17:06birth, because that's what we need to get back to. Anyway, it
- 17:10was what was taught I learned. I spent a lot of time when I
- 17:14began to get some understanding about this, sort of regretting the fact that I
- 17:19had done the forceps work. But I really you know that there's no sense
- 17:26of beating yourself up for something that you did because you were taught and because
- 17:33that's the way it was at the time you co founded the American Holistic Medical
- 17:38Association. How daring and different was the idea of holistic medicine when you first
- 17:45tried to popularize it. I can't even use in words we're thrown at us
- 17:56when we were doing this, and the fact that people really didn't understand the
- 18:06concept of holistic medicine when we did start it there were five of us who
- 18:11did get it. I was the only woman, but we had one weekend
- 18:15where we really were the five of us who were really understanding as my husband
- 18:19and I and three other men. Even after we got that started, it
- 18:25took us two years to realize what we were talking about and how to spell
- 18:32it, because you know, the whole concept that we were working with was
- 18:38based on the root word, but it had to be started with an R
- 18:45instead of a W. The holistic that we were talking about was not spelled
- 18:48with a W, was spelled with an age health, Healy and holy You
- 18:55also founded the Academy of Clinical Hypnosis. How is a clinical hypnosis used as
- 19:00a healing tool? Well, Milton Erickson was just beginning to do his work,
- 19:07and it was in nineteen fifty five and he we came friends and we
- 19:15started a sort of Tuesday night study group in our home while we were working
- 19:22with the whole aspect of hypnosis the way he was looking at it. So
- 19:30Milton Erickson understood the depth of healing that was associated with our heart and our
- 19:42inter spirit. He didn't call it the physician within the patient, but we
- 19:48started it started calling it that, and so then he took that. Actually,
- 19:56it was an amazing time because the whole concept of of what nutrition was
- 20:07doing. With the Book of Silent Spring, you had just you know,
- 20:11it was just being published, and so we were putting a lot of attention
- 20:17into diets and how it was affecting the whole process, and that was considered
- 20:23really really stupid, stole groundhole wheat bread it was. But we knew what
- 20:36we were looking at for we had gotten interest in the Edgar Casey work,
- 20:40so Hughlett Casey was a good friend of ours. We started to study group
- 20:45in our home in nineteen fifty seven and had it going for sixty years.
- 20:51And let me tell another story. My oldest son, know what I was
- 20:56pregnant with. When he had finished his trading orthopedic surgery, he came through
- 21:02Phoenix and he was going down to Del Rio, Texas to start his practice,
- 21:07and he said, Mom, you know I'm going out into the world.
- 21:12I'm going to have people's lives in my hands. I don't know if
- 21:15I can handle that. And I said to him, well, Carl,
- 21:19if you think you're the one that does the heal, you have a right
- 21:23to be scared. But if you can understand that it's your job to do
- 21:29this amazing work which you've been taught to do, which was which is orthopedic
- 21:36surgery. If I have something broken in my body, I want a good
- 21:41orthopod to be the one that's working with it. But after you've done your
- 21:48job, or in the process of doing your job, you contact the physician
- 21:55within that patient, because that's your colleague. That's the person who's going to
- 22:00really do the healing. You'll support that patient as you go along. I
- 22:06mean that college, as you go along within the patient. But that's really
- 22:12the only way that healing is going to happen is i's a patient does the
- 22:18things that the inner aspect of their being, which is that physician within which
- 22:26Jesus talked about. You don't. It's the whole reality that we are true
- 22:36human beings that are different. See I have a do you mind if I
- 22:42just ramble with these stars? Okay? I have this concept that when God
- 22:51created the world, he looked and he saw it was really good. I
- 22:56mean, this is a really good thing. And so then he created the
- 23:00human being and he said to us, I now have give you dominion over
- 23:11this amazing aspect of the world. That's been created, and so we,
- 23:18in our arrogance, took that and said a whole Look, this is what
- 23:22we can do because we have free will and we have choice at all of
- 23:27that. And we thought he said domination. When agent say you, I
- 23:34give you domination. We're not supposed to dominate the world. We have dominion
- 23:41over it. Dominion means you take care of things. And so what I'm
- 23:48feeling now in the way people are responding to this new book violent and the
- 23:55way I've been working so many years, is that people are now reaching for
- 24:04their true humanity, that aspect of our inner being, that is who we
- 24:11were truly expected to be because we have this amazing aspect of our being,
- 24:19that is the free will which we've abused the wisdom of doctor Gladys McGarry.
- 24:29Doctor McGarry's book is called The Well Lived Life by one hundred two year old
- 24:33Doctor's Six Secrets to Health and Happiness at Every Age. Please tell us where
- 24:40the listeners can get your book and find out more about you and your amazing
- 24:42work. It's Gladys McGarry dot com. That's one, and then the Foundation
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- 27:15doctor Gladys McGarry her book The Well Lived Life. Please share something you've
- 27:22learned in your one hundred two years about living life to the fullest Well.
- 27:30I am five six secrets, and last one is use your juice wildly.
- 27:45The idea of that is, don't try to store it up. Energy is
- 27:53energy, and energy has to move and energy, if it's not being used,
- 28:00it'll die. So the whole process of life is allowing ourselves to be
- 28:12alive and loving it. I also have five ells that are the secret to
- 28:22They sort of underlie the others secrets that we've talked about, But these five
- 28:27I have helped me give some foundation structure to my philosophy. The first one
- 28:38is life. Life as it is is like a seed in the Pyramids.
- 28:48It's within its shell and it can't do anything. It's got all the energy
- 28:56of the universe within that shell. But I can't do anything until love,
- 29:03in the form of water and air and sunlight and so activates the shell by
- 29:11allowed to crack, and then life could come and life could grow, and
- 29:18life becomes one with the whole process of love. Because love and life together
- 29:30are the yin and the yang. They're the male and the female. They're
- 29:36they're the good and the bad. There the dual aspect of our humanity on
- 29:44this this whole universe that is a dual universe. So it's that important connection
- 29:55of love with life that is really really important, not just a healing but
- 30:03to life itself. The second, the third l is laughter. Laughter without
- 30:11love is cruel, it's mean, it breaks people's families up, and you
- 30:18know, it's just it's just not fun. But but laughter with love is
- 30:26joy and happiness. And the fourth one is labor. Labor without love,
- 30:33oh, you gotta go to work. It's drudgery. You know, too
- 30:41many diapers, this is just too hard. But labor with love is bliss.
- 30:48It's why you do what you do. It's what I'm why I'm doing
- 30:52what I'm doing. It's why a singer saying, it's why I paid or
- 30:56paids you work harder than you ever probably worked before you understood this. But
- 31:07but bliss is what is from working. Its working with the whole process of
- 31:18hard work and and and just hanging in there, you know. And the
- 31:23fifth one is listening. Listening without love is the clang gog. It's it's
- 31:36just not heard. You don't hear anything if you're if you're not really listening.
- 31:42So those five elves kind of gave give me this structure of my philosophy.
- 31:48And then this little this book that's out that has come out, Uh
- 31:56enhances that it takes those five and makes people so that we as people can
- 32:05really use them in our lives in everyday ways. I wrote a poem called
- 32:12the Gift of True Listening. May I share that with you? Oh please?
- 32:16They're often our words that need to be heard without cutting in or positioning.
- 32:23Your heart will be stirred and compassion conferred. As you offer the gift
- 32:29of true listening, you'll create sacred space while bestowing great grace with love all
- 32:37around you glistening. It may be any place where a soul you embrace as
- 32:43you offer the gift of true listening. So gift someone near you by saying
- 32:49I hear you lifting them up with your christening. And one day, when
- 32:53you're due, you will be heard to receiving the gift of true listening.
- 33:01Thank you, Because that's that's so important in the whole field of healing.
- 33:08I mean, it's it's vital. I was talking to a neuralgeous friend of
- 33:14mine the other day and he's working with some residence and that he had taken
- 33:22they'd gone to a they were at the hospital. They were ready to go
- 33:25into the room for a patient and then and the residents said, you mean
- 33:31I have to go into the room And he said, well yes, and
- 33:37she said, well that's that's silly. He's has Alzheimer's. He doesn't understand
- 33:45anything I would say. And this friend of mine, who's been a amazing
- 33:52physician, he says, now, listen, you have two patients in that
- 33:57room. The wife is city there while she she's working and watching, but
- 34:06she's supporting him all the way through this. And the only way you can
- 34:10even do anything is to love the two of them enough that you listen to
- 34:19what she's going to be saying and watch what the but the body of the
- 34:25husband is say, you've got a double thing. So it's it's I think
- 34:30it's sad that um, we have we haven't learned your poem, because to
- 34:40me, it's it's so important to hear what the patient's saying. You know,
- 34:49one of the things that I've asked patients for years is, um,
- 34:55why are you you know? What's your life purpose? What? What do
- 34:59you you think you're here for? And so many people have never ever thought
- 35:07about that. It's a they say, what what what you know? It's
- 35:14a For me, it's been a pivotal question to be able to ask,
- 35:21to be able to have the patient start thinking about the fact that maybe there's
- 35:29a reason for their being here. I like to think of it as a
- 35:32huge jigsaw puzzle in the world, you know, the life. Every everybody
- 35:39has a spot, a piece within this jigsaw puzzle of life. And you
- 35:45know you can't fit in another piece doesn't fit in your spot. I've I've
- 35:52tried putting pieces that don't fit in. There's no way you could get a
- 35:58piece in. And if you've done a thousand piece puzzle and you come to
- 36:06the end and I've lost one piece, you drive yourself crazy trying to find
- 36:10that one piece. It's that importance of our own individual juice, our own
- 36:21reason for being here. And I think that's the thing that the field of
- 36:29medicine has really lost, That love and life are united in the act of
- 36:37our being here. Absolutely, let's get a little juicier. Now, how
- 36:45to an elephant help you find your juice? Well, you know, my
- 36:51parents were out in the jungles, and I have a tiger skin on my
- 36:55wall here not because my parents were there for a reason that had to do
- 37:02with healing. And the villagers were subjected to these big animals that could just
- 37:10come and ravage a whole village, the leopards of the tigers and so on.
- 37:15And so my parents, my dad, and my brothers, my older
- 37:22brothers had gone on a hunt, and so my mother and my sister and
- 37:30brother were there with her. And at that point, I was probably nine
- 37:37years old or something, and I thought I was a physician. I know,
- 37:43I had appointed myself as an efficient physician, and so I was helping
- 37:47her with the work that the patients were sitting around the on the ground and
- 37:54mom was doing her medical work and so on. And here all of a
- 37:59sudden, into the camp walks about out the elephant boy and his elephant,
- 38:06and he walks up to my mother and he says, this is the Maharaja's
- 38:13favorite elephant. And we were on a hunt and it stepped on a bamboo
- 38:20stump and it can't it's not healing, it's not doing well. And the
- 38:27rogers, you know, to wants you to look at it. And my
- 38:30mother says, oh, my, I don't treat elephants. So the baa
- 38:38says to her, you're a doctor, So she says, oh, yes,
- 38:43I treat help. So I helped her, and she she walked up
- 38:52to this elephant. Now by bomb was five foot one. Elephant's leg was
- 38:57bigger than she was. So she's dead. They're patting its leg and it's
- 39:02stand out and talking to it and telling that, you know, she's going
- 39:07to do what she can, and she hopes it doesn't hurt too much.
- 39:10And she just talking to the elephant like she talks to the patients that she
- 39:15was, whether a man or a woman or what. And the elephant is
- 39:22not moving. I was looking at this elephant. I don't think it even
- 39:28bleaked to die. It's just standing there, perfectly still. And my mother
- 39:34tells me to go get the basin of potassium propagat and and this syringe and
- 39:42these force hips, and so I knew what she was talking about, and
- 39:45I went and got it and and she worked around at the foot of the
- 39:52elephant and found that a six inch long splinter of the b bamboo was stuck
- 40:00in the path of the foot. And so she worked around with it and
- 40:07got and removed it, all the time telling the elephant what she was doing
- 40:13and what was going on. They were communicating, and um she pulled it
- 40:19out and they'd s arranged the full thing and and put some ointment on it
- 40:25and told the Mahaut what to do when he left, and um, and
- 40:31I'm there working with with him all this time, and he that elephant was
- 40:43so happy. I mean, we all knew he was happy. And the
- 40:47Mahau we were tamped on the edge of the Ganges River. So the us
- 40:57walked onto the Ganges with the elephant, and then we had the elephant picked
- 41:04us up and put it on his back, and we were, you know,
- 41:08just had a wonderful day. And so the next day the elephant comes
- 41:14back into camp, but it doesn't stop. It just walks straight into our
- 41:20camp where my mother was and puts his snout around my mother, picks her
- 41:25up and gives her a hug with his nose, you know. And so
- 41:35she's laughing, and she said, she's patting him on the trunk and say,
- 41:38now be a good boy and put me down. Now, just be
- 41:42a good boy and put me down. And the elephant did. What I
- 41:47got from that sort of like the same thing I got from the looking into
- 41:54God these eyes was the reality of life itself, and how I was being
- 42:06given opportunities to see how we need to work together how life needs to connect
- 42:15with life. The one thing that I have that is more important than anything
- 42:21else is loving that patient. And if I can actually put my energy into
- 42:29loving that patient in whatever way I can understand from the way they're presenting themselves
- 42:39to me, then that's the way I have to work with. It's it's
- 42:45an ongoing, amazing, glorious road to walk the wisdom of doctor Gladys McCarry
- 42:54her book, but Well Lived Life. Will be back with more after these
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- 45:10soulful living. Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week, doctor Gladys
- 45:24McCarry. Her book The Well Lived Life. You talked about the l and
- 45:30you. One of the l's you were talking about was labor. I had
- 45:32a wonderful spiritual teacher who used to say, there should be an eleventh commandment,
- 45:37thou shalt have purpose. How important is purpose to a well lived life?
- 45:44It's essential. That's why I ask my patience, what do you have
- 45:47to live for? What are you here for? We're here for special reason,
- 45:54and it's so it's for me. It's such a joy when that patient
- 46:08gets it and begins to take the not just the responsibility, but the actual
- 46:19life giving force that is there. When they do accept the fact that they're
- 46:27here for a reason, and that that reason is whatever it is. I
- 46:31mean, it's not something that I can tell them. I might know them,
- 46:37may know the family, and might be able to give them some suggestions
- 46:43and so on, but the whole concept has to come from within themselves and
- 46:52when that happens, that's that's that's the light from Gandhi, that's the light
- 46:58from the elephant. That's the life from you know. It's it's what life
- 47:02is about. And one of those purposes can be contributing to your community.
- 47:10How come contributing to your community contribute to your own well being? It's so
- 47:20you know, if if love is stopped, if it dies, love has
- 47:25to move. It's a energy that has to keep moving, and and it
- 47:32moves as we share with others. I had a patient and a friend who
- 47:40moved into dementia, and so we had him and he had a home in
- 47:49one of the homes here, and it was nice and all that. But
- 47:52I gave him a plant, a little plant to put in the window.
- 47:58And I said, James, this is your plant, and if you'll just
- 48:04take care of it, all you need to do is give it water and
- 48:07take care of it. Well, he wasn't. I didn't know if he
- 48:10was listening or not. But the next time I came in, he was
- 48:15so excited. He said, to me, let me show you some magic.
- 48:20He says, here's magic, here's magic, and he walks up to
- 48:24the he said, this box is a magic air conditioning box. You know
- 48:31where the air condition is in his room. And he says, look at
- 48:37this. If I push this button, the room gets cool, and my
- 48:42plant likes it. He says, If I pushed this other button and the
- 48:49and the room gets hot, oh, plant doesn't like it. And now
- 48:57he didn't understand much of anything except he knew that he was connected to that
- 49:05plant, and that plant was connected to him, and it really gave him
- 49:12something to live for. It's we have to have they reached to. There's
- 49:20so many people who feel alone, and who knows when just a smile or
- 49:28a greedy to the somebody in the grocery stores, and you know, you
- 49:34never know when you may may actually reach somebody. But if your if your
- 49:43intention is to love everybody, you don't have to like everybody. But if
- 49:50you love, there's a difference. If you love everybody and you just are
- 49:58there because that's what's who you are, it becomes real because love moves.
- 50:07Love has to move, it has to connect. I'm an advocate for radical
- 50:14kindness, going out of our way to be kind to people, especially with
- 50:17the conditions in our world today. Yes, what is something that any of
- 50:23our listeners could start doing tomorrow to live life to the fullest. Well,
- 50:30I see, I'm a visual person, so I kind of like to look
- 50:37at it this way. I have a flashlight and in my hand, and
- 50:43I could turn it on and walk out into the dark, and that flashlight
- 50:47will show me as far as I can go, you know, one step
- 50:52at a time and one step at a time. But as I'm shining my
- 50:57flashlight and walking my path, sometimes there's a little glimmer of light to the
- 51:04right or the left or of something, and it's not a very strong light.
- 51:08It's just a little glimmer. But if I put my flashlight on that
- 51:14glibber boy, it lights up the whole place, and it's the sort of
- 51:22visual concept of reaching for our true humanity. We go together, we work
- 51:30together, we belong together. We're people who have a reason for being here,
- 51:37and as we hold our hands the deaths of life, that's where we
- 51:45go. People are often amazed to find out that you have a ten year
- 51:51plan. Would you share that with us? I sure will. I'm really
- 51:57interested in a village for living medicine. I've changed the words of healing from
- 52:07holistic medicine to living medicine because I think that well, I think because I
- 52:19understand essence of life itself, and I think that, you know, the
- 52:25Christ had to become flesh and dwell among us. I think that places on
- 52:32Earth, where the whole concept of this place is a village for living medicine,
- 52:43we could bring that kind of love back into and have Earth. Mother
- 52:52Earth's going to be really happy when people all over the world start making their
- 53:00villages villages for living medicine. It's a concept that is real. It's it's
- 53:09possible. I've seen. I have a friend who moved to Mexico, and
- 53:15she's had a lot of pain and all that kind of but that little village
- 53:21that she moved into in Mexico, she's become the grandmother for that village and
- 53:28everybody's friends. I mean, it's it's she's you know, if it's transformed
- 53:36that little village. One person can do that, two people can do that.
- 53:42It's a reality that we humans are connected and our juice is usable for
- 53:52each other, because love and life have to go together. If you're not,
- 54:00you know, if you if you don't understand that, life will die.
- 54:07There is a wonderful word that has various iterations in Africa, but the
- 54:12one I'm familiar with is Ubuntu. You b U n tu, and it
- 54:15means I am because we are. That's what we're talking about. That's right,
- 54:21that's right, that's right. What would you like readers to take away
- 54:25from The Well Lived Life? The really understanding, not just talking about,
- 54:36but understanding that love is a great healer. The Bible starts out with God's
- 54:44love. Love is a great healer. And no matter what modality you're using,
- 54:50but it's osteopathy, chiropractic, you know, homing opus, the attitude
- 54:57with which you're using that is what's as important, and I think more important
- 55:05than the actual modality itself. It's the approach. It's the way we approach
- 55:14everything in life. Right, My guest doctor Gladys McCarry her wonderful book,
- 55:21The Well Lived Life, a one hundred two year old doctor's six Secrets to
- 55:25Health and Happiness at Every age. One more time, please share our listeners
- 55:30where they can get your book and find out more about you and your amazing
- 55:32wisdom and work. All right is Gladysbegary dot com and the Foundation for Living
- 55:42Medicine dot org. I am so grateful that you gave us your time today
- 55:47and shared these wonderful, wonderful messages with our listeners. Thank you for listening.
- 55:53This was a pleasure. This is truly a pleasure for me in ways
- 55:58that I can not even be in to explain it. Thank you, and
- 56:01thank you to our audience for joining us on Destination and Limited. I'm Victor
- 56:06the Voice Perman. Have a wonderful week.