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Is Marriage Really for Broke Women? Loren Reacts to Mandy B's Viral Take · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: behind the scenes at the Grind today. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: about all my thoughts and feelings, But that honestly is
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  Speaker 1: like it. This is a season for me where I
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  Speaker 1: am I don't know, I would say like facing a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things. But I think I've always been a
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  Speaker 1: person to face things and I've never been a person
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  Speaker 1: to run from things. But I think now in this
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  Speaker 1: era of my life, because I'm preparing for things like
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  Speaker 1: you know, buying a home, you know, getting married, figuring out,
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  Speaker 1: to the areas that I lack showing up the best
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  Speaker 1: just wouldn't take the time to internally, and that has
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  Speaker 1: you know, that causes different feelings, emotions, conversations within yourself
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  Speaker 1: and with other people around you. But I think, for me,
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  Speaker 1: before I start to do all of these things and
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  Speaker 1: divulge a bit and peel back the.
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  Speaker 2: Onion a bit more. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: God has been instructing me to just get really deep
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  Speaker 1: into my prayer and into my praise and worship because
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  Speaker 1: it's a lot there, you know, it's a lot in
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  Speaker 1: the pot that you got to mix up. So before
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  Speaker 1: I go into the mess and mixing up things, you
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  Speaker 1: got to deal with the mess in your life to
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  Speaker 1: say what you deal with all the applause and the congratulations.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's been placed on my heart. So I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if that helps.
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  Speaker 1: Anybody, if anybody else is feeling like okay right now
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  Speaker 1: in order for me to get to the next phase
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  Speaker 1: doing some things that you'd have been told yourself you
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't be doing no more, sometimes you got to take
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  Speaker 1: a second and put on an armor.
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  Speaker 2: And that's where I'm at right now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm armoring up because there are things that I want
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  Speaker 1: to do better and be better about. So as we
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  Speaker 1: have that conversation, let's get on into the latest, yes
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  Speaker 2: We get into this conversation.
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  Speaker 1: So this conversation that we're going to be talking about
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  Speaker 1: actually went down back in August of twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: The Beautiful Women Mandy Be and Wheezy of the Decision
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  Speaker 1: Decisions podcast formerly known as Horrible Decisions, sat down for
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  Speaker 1: an interview with Cammy Crawford for her show Relationship and
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  Speaker 1: On the show, they talk about everything from relationships to
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  Speaker 1: marriage to you know, all the things. In this particular episode,
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  Speaker 1: they get into just what it's like even the thought
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  Speaker 1: of balancing, you know, being married and having a man
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  Speaker 1: and cleaning and cooking and just doing all the things
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  Speaker 1: when you are a boss, like when you you know,
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, when you really out here, you grinding.
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  Speaker 2: The Women of Decisions.
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  Speaker 1: Decisions have a very successful podcast, super huge successful podcast community.
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  Speaker 1: They're also here on the Black Effect podcast network now
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. They are New York Times bestsellers
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  Speaker 1: as well so in business owners even outside of the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: So you know, the conversation was right on time, around
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  Speaker 1: on point for them. But there is one clip that
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  Speaker 1: has surfaced on a year later now Mandy B says
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  Speaker 1: being married is for broke women.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 3: I'm super rich and I'm super fried, so yeah, super
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  Speaker 3: duper God damn it for someone to want to come
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  Speaker 3: after me and get alimal.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna lie ten figures, tie me up, getting a prenup.
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  Speaker 3: See you're getting a prenup. I'm getting a prenup when
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  Speaker 3: you're a woman with even say you're only and only
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  Speaker 3: is crazy. Say you're making half a mil as a woman,
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  Speaker 3: especially a driven, successful, wanting to make.
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  Speaker 2: More money woman.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't see that as your feeling period wanting.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about this yesterday or the other day
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  Speaker 1: when I forget what we were talking about in the room.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, this is when t k. Kirkley was here. Actually
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about this.
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  Speaker 1: Charlemagne said something about because they were talking about like
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  Speaker 1: my spirit right and how that leads into you know,
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  Speaker 1: marriage and how I'll show up in the marriage and
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  Speaker 1: like whatever. And Charlemagne was like, no, Lauren is a
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  Speaker 1: really great person. She has a great heart. She don't
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  Speaker 1: like she I don't even think I've ever heard her
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  Speaker 1: curse at work. And I was like and he was like,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know how she is in relationships. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: that's crazy because I get mad and I'm going off,
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  Speaker 1: I'm cursing, I'm doing all.
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  Speaker 2: The things and my men do not. He don't.
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  Speaker 1: That is not He don't go for none of it.
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  Speaker 1: And I am learning right now to not. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's just a thing of like better expressing yourself when
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  Speaker 1: you start thinking thinking of things like marriage. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's why this clip with Mandy is picking up
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  Speaker 1: so much, because I think that there are a lot
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  Speaker 1: of women in men in marriages who are listening to
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  Speaker 1: this clip and they're like, what a healthy marriage or
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  Speaker 1: even a marriage that is bad but like still has
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  Speaker 1: two healthy people who want to fight for each other
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  Speaker 1: in it. Know that it's not even about the money
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  Speaker 1: or the prenups or like whatever. There is business to
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  Speaker 1: marriage that you do have to sort out, but a
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  Speaker 1: healthy marriage enables you to do so many things and
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  Speaker 1: so many different ways. And I know, for me, like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of me wanting to better myself about how
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  Speaker 1: I am and how I interact with people is because
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  Speaker 1: I want to go into my marriage like that and
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  Speaker 1: and that like I know that like the man that
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  Speaker 1: I'm with right now deserves that in a marriage, even
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  Speaker 1: on my worst days where I hate him. Right and
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  Speaker 1: when I'm listening to Mandy talk, I'm like my first
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  Speaker 1: reaction before when I just watched this clip only this clip,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't go back and watch a full interview in
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  Speaker 1: context at first. I have done that though, But at
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  Speaker 1: first when I only saw this clip, I was like, ooh,
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  Speaker 1: Number one, I know why that's gone viral. She know
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  Speaker 1: exactly what she's doing. She's really good at the content
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  Speaker 1: and you know, getting people going. But secondly, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: she seems really really hurt where because I think it
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  Speaker 1: really really hurt. And then the third thing I thought of,
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  Speaker 1: that's a woman who has been so hyper independent and
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  Speaker 1: having to figure things out for so many people for
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  Speaker 1: so long.
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  Speaker 2: Your defense is.
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  Speaker 1: Why you hear what you want and you're not taking
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  Speaker 1: it from y'all work too hard for this, Whereas and
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  Speaker 1: I know that because I am her, she is me,
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  Speaker 1: we or she like one hundred percent. But even in dating, like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm really happy that I had the time to be
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  Speaker 1: single before I got in a relationship I'm in right
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  Speaker 1: now because I was able to clearly see the difference
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  Speaker 1: between how men who understand certain things about what relationship
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  Speaker 1: and partnership should be, how that makes you feel and
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  Speaker 1: you react and you like even be vulnerable and open
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  Speaker 1: enough to like do things that you've never thought about
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to like taking off your guard and
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  Speaker 1: taking off your your protection, like sometimes I know with
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  Speaker 1: myself I can. I would never say this because I
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  Speaker 1: don't believe what she said. I don't believe that being
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  Speaker 1: married is just for women who are trying to come up,
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  Speaker 1: even if you are a stay at home wife, a
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  Speaker 1: stay at home mom, I do not believe that. I
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  Speaker 1: think I commend those women who do that even more
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  Speaker 1: because I think the vulnerability goes beyond just I love you,
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  Speaker 1: I want to make a great home for you.
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  Speaker 2: I want to you know, raise your kid.
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  Speaker 1: I want to, you know, pick up where you're lacking,
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  Speaker 1: or you know what I mean, Like that woman puts
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  Speaker 1: on so much more than anybody in the household. So
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  Speaker 1: I commend those women way more than sometimes I do,
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  Speaker 1: even working women. And I know people might be upset
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  Speaker 1: to hear that, but I just think about whether I
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  Speaker 1: could hold that down or not.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if I could.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot to bear when you are the leader
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  Speaker 1: of a household for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: But I also think about.
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  Speaker 1: When I hear what she's saying, like even if you
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  Speaker 1: got into a marriage and financially you weren't the bread winner,
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  Speaker 1: or you did stay home, right, there are certain things
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  Speaker 1: about certain men when it's when you're made to feel
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  Speaker 1: like and I'm not saying that made it's always perfect.
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  Speaker 1: What I'm saying is is like you know the cloth
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  Speaker 1: of the men that you're with or woman. You know,
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  Speaker 1: however y'all swinging to these days, you know the cloth
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  Speaker 1: for the person you're with and to me in my marriage,
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  Speaker 1: like that's what I always want to remember. So when
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  Speaker 1: I hear this, I'm like me as a always had
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  Speaker 1: to figure it out oldest child. I hear that, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I know I can sound like that
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  Speaker 1: in other ways, Like I would never say that being
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  Speaker 1: married is for broke women, but I can in other
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  Speaker 1: ways sound very like this is mine. You didn't work
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  Speaker 1: for this, You're never going to take me out. I
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  Speaker 1: gotta protect myself. It's me versus everybody, because who got me?
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  Speaker 1: Whereas like, no, like when I'm looking at marriages that
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  Speaker 1: you know, people are like in partnership for real, it's
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  Speaker 1: never who got me?
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  Speaker 2: Is we got each other? Like you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's why she's getting a lot to
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  Speaker 1: pushback for this. But then I started to unwrap a
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  Speaker 1: lot of I'm like, I gotta watch this full conversation
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  Speaker 1: because like, why did you just come out swinging so
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  Speaker 1: hurt like that? And then there's another clip where Mandy
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  Speaker 1: is talking about, you know, watching her mom interact with
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  Speaker 1: men and take care of men financially.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take a listen. I'm super rich and I'm super fine, so.
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  Speaker 3: Super duper God damn it for someone to want to
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  Speaker 3: come after me and get alima ten figures, tie.
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  Speaker 2: Me up getting a prenup. See you're getting a prenup.
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  Speaker 3: I'm getting a prenup when you're a woman with even
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  Speaker 3: say you're only and only is crazy. Say you're making
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  Speaker 3: half a mil as a woman, especially a driven, successful,
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  Speaker 3: wanting to make more money woman, Yeah, you don't see
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  Speaker 3: that as you're a feeling period wanting.
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  Speaker 1: So then I watched this clip and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I saw this part of the interview and I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. That's also a trauma response, like that's
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  Speaker 1: you not wanting to end up like what you didn't
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  Speaker 1: like about your mom's experience, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So then that's another layer of defense or fight or
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  Speaker 1: fight mode against here's I don't want to go here.
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  Speaker 1: I don't ever want to end up like that. And
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  Speaker 1: I think as women sometimes like I think women, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't think people understand our defense mechanism at all,
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  Speaker 1: Like they make it seem like we're like ungrateful, we're
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  Speaker 1: too independent, we hate men, we're miserable. And it's not
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  Speaker 1: that it's just when you're a super hyper independent woman.
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  Speaker 2: Most of the time we're like.
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  Speaker 1: The most loving, loyal people. So we're scared that if
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  Speaker 1: we do it in the wrong circumstances for the wrong people,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be cut, not running over like you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, like the complete opposite of that.
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  Speaker 1: Like I know for me, it's a fear. And I've
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  Speaker 1: had to recently like admit and be like yo, like
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  Speaker 1: you're like this not because you know all the time
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  Speaker 1: something's happening. You're anticipating things sometimes because you're fearful. Or
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  Speaker 1: if something does happen, it could be something that is
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  Speaker 1: small that can be you know, figured out, worked out,
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  Speaker 1: Like I have my boundary set now at this point
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  Speaker 1: in my life, Like there's certain things that happen that
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  Speaker 1: can happen relationships that if that happens, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I could work towards that then didn't go get married,
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  Speaker 1: Like I hear like people talk about like cheating while
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  Speaker 1: like in marriages, and I don't know if I could
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  Speaker 1: work through that neither, like not at this point in
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  Speaker 1: my life, Like no, and a.
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  Speaker 2: Bare minimum is not to cheat. Yeah, Like I feel
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  Speaker 2: like okay, like I get it. People are human.
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  Speaker 1: We might not be perfect, like and because I think
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  Speaker 1: about it like this too, It's like there are small
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  Speaker 1: things or things that may be small to you, like
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  Speaker 1: saying oh, oh, seeing a person's fine or something like that,
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  Speaker 1: that you're a man, that might be like a huge
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  Speaker 1: red flag for him because of something that he's going
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  Speaker 1: through in the past where that small thing leads to
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  Speaker 1: something bigger, and vice versa. There could be something that
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  Speaker 1: is very small to a man because it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: well all I did was this, but it's like no,
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  Speaker 1: like for me or for your woman, that could be
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  Speaker 1: like a major red flag because of something that she's
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  Speaker 1: experienced in the past.
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  Speaker 2: That man started from something small.
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  Speaker 1: You got to learn how to like learn and grow
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  Speaker 1: in the marriage and in preparing for a marriage. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that when I'm listening to Mandy talk, I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is what they talk about. When it's like you
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  Speaker 1: have so much that you've experienced that you don't even
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  Speaker 1: understand how much is leading you, like in the past,
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  Speaker 1: how much is leading you in the future.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to be And honestly, I don't think Mandy.
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  Speaker 4: I think Mandy probably also knows her trauma too though,
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  Speaker 4: and she just yeah, that's just how.
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  Speaker 2: She expresses it.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, Like when I said, like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think people understand our defense mechanisms, Like I
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  Speaker 1: don't think she's an idiot.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was an idiotic take. I think that
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  Speaker 2: it was crazy. I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't agree with it. But it's too many successful.
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  Speaker 1: Women that I've married, yes, who came to the marriage
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  Speaker 1: with the table, okay, and then because of them, the
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  Speaker 1: man now has a table or too crazy, But like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't think that.
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  Speaker 2: I think that it was an idiotic take. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't think she's an idiot.
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  Speaker 1: I think that she is a person that is responding
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  Speaker 1: to the nature of what she's seen and what she's experienced,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, this is her fight back to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that doesn't happen for her now. She had commented
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  Speaker 1: one of the outlets a Spiritual World shout out. The
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  Speaker 1: Spiritual World had posted the first clip we played where
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  Speaker 1: she said that marriage was for broke women, and she
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  Speaker 1: had commented back to one of the users on social
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  Speaker 1: and she was saying that, like, a marriage today doesn't
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  Speaker 1: benefit any woman without a prenup, And I'm like, what.
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  Speaker 2: But why do she keep putting money into it?
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  Speaker 4: Why can't people just want to share their life with
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  Speaker 4: each other and make that commitment, Like why does it?
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  Speaker 1: I think people can, But I think again, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's just all on like what you've come up off of, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: being scared that somebody's going to come into it, and
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  Speaker 1: even if they have what you have, people always, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think about that all the time. Like, man, divorce
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  Speaker 1: is like everybody I know who's ever had to go
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  Speaker 1: through a divorce always says the person you marry is
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  Speaker 1: not the person you divorce, And and I just think
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  Speaker 1: about breakups, like my last long term relationship, the breakup,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you couldn't wait to do this,
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  Speaker 1: Like I was so shocked, Like I'm like, Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 1: so happy I didn't have kids.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so happy.
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  Speaker 1: All we got to argue about is when I can
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  Speaker 1: get your name off of a lease of an apartment
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  Speaker 1: because oh, the true colors was coloring And he probably
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  Speaker 1: felt the same way about me.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Because I think once you get to a certain.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: State of things and in the state doesn't always stay there.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Like I think eventually that's why people were able to
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: divorce and like successfully co parent or like whatever, because
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: in the moment, there's a lot of emotion, there's a
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: lot of hurt, you're grieving and experience that you both
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: had differently at the same time while having to interact
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: and deal with that person. I can't imagine being like
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: like just in the midst of all of that. But
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I think for some people, like it is a scary
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: thing you have to think about, like the money situation
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: and all that. Like I'm not scared to have to
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: go through that because i just know it's something that
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do. But I literally just started
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: working with like an estate manager and I'm figuring out
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: like brokerage accounts and like all these big girl things.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: And the woman I'm working with, she's she asks me, like,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: you know where, like they cared so much about my
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: relationship And I was like why, and she was like, well,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: you know, if your relationship is as serious as you
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: say it is, like you guys are want to be
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: talking about marriage soon, and with marriage comes really hard
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: financial conversations about prenups.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, dang, like you like.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: That's like such a I've never thought about having to
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: have those conversations. I knew that eventually I would, But
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: for me, I think I've always just been so like
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: like marriage is my fairy tale, not my fairy tale ending.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: But like I want my marriage to feel like my
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: fairy tale, you know what I mean that I didn't
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: think about the business side of the marriage, and I
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: think Mandy is going into it thinking not about fairy
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: tale and love, but what's the goodness though I'm not
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: mad at everything that way either though, like because the
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: butterflies and all that, like they don't they don't.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Stay there all the time.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so and then things get real life be lifing,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: and people change in relationships outside of it.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Like people are definitely going to change in a marria.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Even like the circumstances around it, because it doesn't mean
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: like situations change people too, So it's just true. So
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: I think that her thinking like there's to me I
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: always think though, I'll just say that there should be
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: love in a marriage. It shouldn't just be thinking yeah
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: money though personally.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: But it's crazy though to think about it, because it
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: made me start thinking, like, all right, so do I
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: want to preen up?
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Do I not want to preen up? Do I like?
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: And I wouldn't. It's just I don't like, Sorry, go ahead.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I was trying to I'm trying to think, like what
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I be upset if because I think having a conversation
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: is hard for some people too, because people take people
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: take prenup as like you're accusing them of like wanting
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: to take something from you. Take that I didn't look
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: at I don't look at it like that either, because
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: also to what people don't understand is in a prenup
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: you can come up with the terms. So sometimes sometimes
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: in terms is yo, what I come with, I leave with.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like what I come with, I leave with,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: but what we build, we split it fifty to fifty.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: And like for me, I'm not mad at that, Like
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that, Like especially if you think
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: that this is a person you want to have children
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: with and stuff like that, Like like you said.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, things change. People got to get into.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: The reality of it instead of a fairy tale of
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: it though, Like I don't think having a conversation about
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: prenup and just protecting yourself is a bad thing though.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Because that's why I said, people, I wish she had
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I wish yeah, I wish her, I wish her. I
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: wish her. I don't know how you name it.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I wish her headline about this made it where people
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: weren't like, yo, she's crazy. What the heck is she
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: talking about ALM will listen to her she ain't married anyway,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Because I do think that there's like that's what comes
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: with Yeah, I think that there's like a conversation about
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: prenups that, like I do you feel like you see
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of black women just like openly talk about that.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I don't even I was trying to think, like, who's
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: a successful black woman that we know successful has built
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: everything on her own, but also quite a lot of
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: her marriage.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: You talked about coming into her marriage, Like I would love.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: To hear talk about Yeah, but I want to hear
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: like a relationship a couple talk about it and not
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: just like oh so.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Like going into it and then America, but like then
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: feel like I would love.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: For This is hard though, because a lot of.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: I think the at least the relationships I see that
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: have a podcast, Like I was gonna say the din Yeah, I.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Mean I like each other when they were younger.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. I do like that, But yeah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I want to see because I see that like dating.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Even listening to like Envy and Charlottage talk about their marriages,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: you can't talk No, they know each other forever exactly.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I would love to see people who met each other
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit more like when you were like even
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: if you didn't have everything you have now, but like
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: you know things.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Rolling Swift and Travis Kelcey right now.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I know Tell the Swift got a prenup, no shade,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Like Travis Kelcey is successful.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: He got money, but.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: She is.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: They're both business powerhouses. Like it's no way anybody around.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: And I think that's what's different too. I feel like
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: when you are white or not just non black, to me,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's black people and there's everybody else.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: When you are not black, there are certain conversations that
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: people have and it is like normal. I know for
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: a fact, there's nobody in tell the social world that
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: would tell her not to have a prenup or Travis Kelcey,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: And it's not weird, it's normal.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: It's what people do.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: And I was gonna say with the same thing with
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: a cocoa and they just got married, like I was, yeah, right,
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: And she's been working, he's been working. Her dad was like,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: you know, a big name in football, Like yeah, yep,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: her dad was in football as well.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I would love to know what that's like.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like people don't talk about it because the
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: way that it's especially in our community. I haven't seen
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: anybody anyway, like not like a big name person who
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: talks about it in a way that like it's very honest,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: because I think people will take it like if Kevin
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Heart were to come out and talk about having a
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: prenut with an ego, people will be like, oh, he
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: thinks she out for his money, and it's like even no,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: even if I mean, I'm not saying that that's what
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: he thinks, but like he is.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Why that one direction? Though? Why can't just I don't
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: And maybe I mean cause I know, like an Ego
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: and Kevin Hart met, you know, they're very well into
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Kevin Hart's success. I'm trying to think of like a
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: couple that we're and like, you know, and Kevin Hart
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: is like Kevin Hart and an Ego. She's not in
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the in the entertainment business. Chrissy taking a John.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Legend, Well she ain't. I don't know what does she
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: have no idea? Let me see? But what was she before?
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: She was a model? I believe, Okay, yeah, let me
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: say no, she not black?
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: So I feel like the only conversation I saw that
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: this happening is she's Asian and white?
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Who got a black wife? Thing?
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: I didn't say, Coco, but but I'm yeah, they're they're young.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I would love to hear from Coco
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: and Donovan on it because they are young. Actually, I
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: think older people would like they would dance around like
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: the truths and how difficult it Actually the only the.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Only time I seen like a conversation like that was
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: on Tyler Perry, Why did I get married too?
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Didn't you say? You just watched that? Yeah?
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Remember and jan Jackson her husband were going back and forth.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But see, I think power name it plays the
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: park too, because remember when Janet Jackson was tearing up
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the house.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: We should put some of that in here.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: She was tearing the house up when they came to
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: get his stuff out the house, and she was talking
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: about how she gave him the money for stuff like
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: who gave you the money? So the architecture firm and
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. So she was it seemed like her
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: car was moving before his was. And I think in
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: relationships that happens, like where one person's up the other
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: person's not. Then one person's up and the other person's not.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Like that happens, and I want to be in that
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: type of relationship where like because I've always been a
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: person that has had to like have me like always,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I've never been in a relationship up until this point
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: where I'm like, all right, if something would happen to me,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: like if right now we were to be married with children,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: and something happened to me where I couldn't do what
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I do every single day to like make the bulk
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: of my money. I know, Like if I was married
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: to my boyfriend right now, we had children, I wouldn't
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: even worry about anything, Like I know him enough to
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: know that, like he got us like and it wouldn't
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: in as long as he could handle it being one
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: person not too doing what we were doing, and you know,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: because that's different when things change. He would have us
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: at the level that we would have each other together,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like nothing would slip, Like
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: our kids wouldn't feel a difference in like living or
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: like he would.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Know and that's that's very important. I remember kind of
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: seeing that with my parents, like when the recession happened, Yeah,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: and my father ended up like losing his business from it,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: but my mom.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Was still business.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Mortgage he did something with a mortgage.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was so. But my dad is.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Resilient as hell, like he he don't stay down for
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: long at all, Like he's going to find another way.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: And nothing changed from my like our living situation anything
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: like that like that. But that's because also my mom,
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: like they have a union where it's like I got you,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: but and my dad brought that up quick, like.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why when you hear her, like when I.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Hear Mandy say like it's for broke women, I'm like, what,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: like no, Like, oh my god, even if you're literally
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: coming to the table financially with zero and your husband
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: got ten, marriage the right marriage, you put that woman
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: with that man, they gonna walk away with at least
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: a good five hundred thousand to a million dollars, Like it,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: it exemplifies like it's the best of the two when
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: it's working together. It's not a woman nothing about marriage
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: should just be a woman marry because she's trying to
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: come up and get her life together right, Like I
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: do think that there is a level of the levelosed
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: to be like level your life happens when you're married
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: if you married the right person, because now you have
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: a partner and you have somebody to motivate you, somebody
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to push you, like, but it just is not that,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and I don't know, like you know, I'm getting to
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: see more married people who are like not perfect, but
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: like they are choosing each other every day and they're happy.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: And I've seen married people who were not happy like
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I've seen that. I've seen people you know, young and
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: go through divorce as well. And I think in each
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: of those situations, like none of the women were like, yo,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I'm broke, I need to get.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Married, right.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I do know women though, who and maybe this is
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: what she was referencing, who they looking for somebody to
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: save them, and they're like, Okay, I want to be married,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I want a house, I want kids, and that's like come,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: like that's my saving grace. But I think even in
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: those situations, those women they ready to provide home, like
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: they're ready to do what it takes to empower the
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: man to have something to bring home like and even that,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I feel like you're rich in something if you're able
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: to do that. So yeah, well listen, she did what
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: it need to do, Okay, maybe decision decisions. As always,
• 27:55
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