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Barbara about Bow Bangor Management Fantasy Hockey
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podcast. Woo.
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Wow, got you off guard there. Right.
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You did catch me off guard there.
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I was just looking at what Kevin was saying.
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You wanted to know if he split the difference on the last
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episode. So I was telling him to go
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listen himself. So.
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It was spicy, it was spicy. The News Would You Rathers
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episode that dropped on Wednesday.
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It was quite something. He had some great selections.
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Unfortunately, he wasn't here, nor is he here for this
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recording. Wow, crazy summer.
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Yeah, but. Let him out stag free, Kevin.
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OK today. Today is our week 8 mailbag and
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hot topics. Not TM.
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Not. The It's Hot Topics and Mailbag.
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Hot topics and. Mailbag.
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Yeah, that's. True.
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I guess the other thing is hot topic.
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But we're hot topics. Yeah, exactly.
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It's different, you see? Yes, OK.
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So that is gonna be a lot of fun, some good choices here for
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the hot topics, Josh. And we love this one because it
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So yeah, exactly. Yeah.
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OK, start us off with Hot topic #1.
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I'm not sure. About the whole time, but yeah.
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This is one of our few episodes that doesn't have a countdown,
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so that's why it's OK for Kevin to miss out.
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Alright, my first hot topic for this week is I feel like
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everyone's talking about it. I feel like I'm talking about
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all of these. That's why my hot topics, but
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Josh's Hot Topics TM. But yeah, the first one for this
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week is Yes for Walstead slash Philip Gustafson, the goalies of
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Minnesota, the shutout farmers. Like what is going on here?
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Yes, for Walstead puts up 3 shutouts in four games.
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And then Gus is like, hold my beer.
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I'm also gonna put up a shut out.
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You know, like, yeah, it's they're going back and forth.
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It seems like they, I saw a quote from Gustafson essentially
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being like, yeah, we know, we both know that the other guys
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breathing down our necks, we both have to play our butts off
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every single game. And it's just working.
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Minnesota out of nowhere is just, I think they've won like 8
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of the last 10 something crazy like that.
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And they're just absolutely on fire.
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And it's all starting from the gold.
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So I guess a lot of people are asking who's the one to own?
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Should I own both of them? Should I own only one of them?
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What's going on is this is one of them gonna take the starter
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job? Are they gonna split it?
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JPAS, someone with Walstead shares.
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What do you think is going on here?
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So I'm all over the place with this one.
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I flip flop on it all the time as to which one I'd rather own.
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I think that right now, I mean goes Gus has actually been
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decent but just whilst that's doing is insane.
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The reason it's a scary situation for Gustafson is
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because Wall Step was drafted to be the goalie of the future and
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then Gustafson got paid. This happened with Florida too.
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They drafted Spencer Night to be their guy and then they gave
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Bobrovsky a contract. Right?
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Or it was like, I don't know if that was the exact sequence, but
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it was in the same year. So to me, I'm looking at the
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situation, I'm just being like, OK, they're winning.
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They are both of them on the team.
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One of them is getting paid a decent amount.
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It's not 10 million. It's like 6.8 for Dustin.
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But then the goalie who you want to build confidence for for the
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future is actually doing insane, insane things.
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Yeah. So I think that they're gonna,
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they're more inclined and, and I, I didn't believe this until
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like I think it was the 3rd shutout in four games where I'm
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like now it's like, OK, I can't really.
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You just can't know what. He's getting away with it.
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Seriously, though, I'm a big believer that they're gonna get
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Walstead going, that they want Walstead to be the guy.
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And yeah, I mean, even if they have to trade Gustafson, need
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some of the contract, whatever, Like what's going to be their
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goalie for years to come. So I'm on Team Wall Street right
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now. I feel like, well, from what the
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coach was saying, it was we're gonna keep giving both of them
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reps until one of them runs away with it.
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And I know you're like one guy got three shots in four games.
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How is he not running away with it?
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But the fact is Gus has also been solid, not Alstead level
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solid, but he's been really good as well.
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So I think that it's too hard to predict.
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So you can't predict like who's gonna do better when both are
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playing at this level, right? But I think that's gonna happen.
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I think it's gonna be back and forth, back and forth.
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And then eventually one of them is gonna keep playing as well as
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he's been playing, and the other ones gonna filter and he's going
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to kind of take it. But I think that let's say the
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one who takes it and runs with it then starts faltering, the
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other guys going to jump in, right?
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So I think that this is at this point like pretty much 5050 from
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this way, this way on. But if it's a 5050 and both
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these guys are playing out of their minds like this, I'm happy
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to own either. Now we've talked about how like
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we don't like owning both goalies on the same team because
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it's kind of like, you know, Matt, minimizing your, your
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ceiling, right? Because at best you can get,
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you'll get all the teams games. But like some weeks that can be
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only two games from 2 goalies, something like that.
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In a situation like this, it could be worth it just to wait
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and see and then eventually maybe one of them pulls away and
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you can drop the other one. But if gun to our head, as Kevin
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likes to say, gun to your head, you have to hold own one right
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now, you're going Walstead. And I think that I think I
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probably go whilst that as well. Super.
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Close. It's just, it's too close.
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Honestly, I really don't think anyone of them is gonna run away
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with it with it just yet. I think it's gonna be 5050 for
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a. Bit the only thing that sucks is
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that I will say like if this was a role reversal and Walstad did
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what? Is.
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It and what Walstead it's doing. Walstead would not be in the
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picture. That's a really good point
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actually. I think the money is a big thing
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and whilst it is still a rookie, right, so it's a it's tough.
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I feel like it's tough to bench your $6.8 million goalie when
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he's playing right, even if the backup guy or not, maybe tandem
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guy, whatever is putting up three shots in four games.
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If your starter who you're paying is playing well, it's
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really hard to bench him. So I, like I said, I foresee a
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5050 for the foreseeable future. And then I think one of them
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runs away with it. He takes it.
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OK, OK. Speaking of goalies, Eric
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Comrie, Connor Hellebuyck, I mean, this one's a lot less
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interesting than the first one. I think it's just we kind of
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covered this a bit on the mailbag episode, but pretty much
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held box out four to six weeks. Got a knee surgery.
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Comma is going to be a starter while he's gone.
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This is very much just a short term Band-Aid for your team if
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you need the goalie or if you're the about owner.
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I love grabbing him. But yeah, there's not too much
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to say on this one. But like, but I think I see a
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lot of people overvaluing Camry. You see a goalie go down like a
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a really good goalie go down and you rush to pick up the backup
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and then you're like, wait a second, this isn't actually
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gonna win me my season or anything like that.
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It's just a couple weeks of having a solid goalie.
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So I think people are overvaluing him.
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Like I saw people asking like, should I take comedy or
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Walstead? Obviously that was before the
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3rd shutout, before the 3rd shutout, but still two shots in
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three games and you have whatever.
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Like it's obviously Walstead, not even those.
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So I'd say where I draw the line, like there were there were
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a couple like questions, you know, like some goalies to, you
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know, who would you take over? I would take Camry over most
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short-term plays. I think he's like a top tier
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short term option. But any guy who has staying
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power over the course of the season, I'm taking over comedy.
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Stuart Skinner. I think I would take Skinner
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over a Camry. Yeah, yeah.
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I just think like Skinner, like he sucks right now, but he is
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the starter for Edmonton and I feel like they turned it around
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at some point. It's, it's more it's, it's less
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about me liking Skinner and more about me thinking comedy is just
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such a short term option. Yeah, I guess the the way to
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look at it is that like, I mean, I'm assuming you take Wedgewood
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overcomer, right? Or blackboard close, yeah.
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Block with two. Yeah, yeah.
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OK, See that's like kind of it. It's like if there's it if if
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there's even like potential for them to be like a starter on
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like a good team. You know what I mean?
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It's just Skinner's been so bad. I feel like, you know, I would
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take Calvary over like Jonathan, Jonathan Quicks injured,
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whatever, but. Yeah, full backup for sure.
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Yeah, exactly. It's a really, it's honestly
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even tough to come up with names.
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I guess they'll whole narrative here is that Pomeroy has been in
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the NHL long enough that we know he's a true backup goalie.
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Backup goalies eventually have to back up the starting goalie,
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hence the name, and I wouldn't expect much.
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It's just more like sustenance and like, you know, maybe 30% of
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his games are gonna be good. Yeah.
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And then the other ones will be like, serviceable.
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So if you were real goalie trouble, that's it.
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You mentioned on the previous episode to pick them up if you
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have Hella Buck. I understand the logic there.
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It's most enticing to do so during that time.
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But as someone who doesn't own Hello Buck in my leagues, I'm
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not excited by it. Like, I'm just going to kind of
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let him stay on waivers. And that's.
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Yeah. Yeah, fully agree.
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OK, this is a fun one because he's doesn't even have a picture
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on Yahoo yet and he was 0% owned I think about a week ago and
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nobody knew he existed about a week ago even.
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His parents. Yeah, absolutely.
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They're doesn't have a picture on Yahoo.
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Who is this guy? You know who was undrafted?
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I literally lied to look him up. I was like, I looked up his name
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and draft position. I couldn't find anything like
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where was he drafted? Why is it so hard for me to find
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this? And it's cause he wasn't
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drafted. Anyways, the name we're talking
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about is Brayden Bowman of the Vegas Golden Knights line One
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power play 1. Where did this come from?
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This is crazy. Yeah, it's it's not often that
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like you see a player who wasn't drafted and who ends up like
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doing this type of thing and and he's young too, right?
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Like, yeah, it's not like he had major success in the KHL or like
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the school and he just like he didn't get drafted and he played
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in the OHL and he did like, OK, here's a point per game player.
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And then he was also fine in the NHL last year.
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This year becomes good at 22, which is OK, Where'd you come
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from? And now he's like almost a point
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per game in the NHL. This is a very, very illogical
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like sequence and progression of a young players career.
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Yeah, doesn't tend to happen. I don't know how scouts missed
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this, frankly. I mean, it's amazing.
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And he's a big body too 62190. 4V serious, cheeky.
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Sight but yeah, so this is an opportunity thing now to me if
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he's playing he's having right he's.
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Yeah, I got one. Super happy about it.
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Yeah, like you, you gotta, you gotta pick him up while he's
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hot. Right now he's 20% owned.
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He's currently playing with Jack Eichel on line 1 and Power Play
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1. Like what's the way I see it is
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that he is a must pick up until Stone comes back or he loses
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that deployment. And I really the way he's been
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doing, I don't see him losing that deployment until Stone
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comes back. Yeah.
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And and even when Stone comes back, right, like I know that
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you have Dora Phev, who's like an actual left wing and and so
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is Barbashev. But like if it means staying on
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the line, like I don't think they're gonna wanna bench this
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guy. Like clearly what they have is
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more special what they have. Like I think I think at the very
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least he cemented a spot in the lineup and I think when Stone
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comes back, he's gonna get bumped off power play 1.
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I think it's very unlikely. The only other option would be
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forfeit and I just don't see them doing that.
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But I would not be surprised at all if he keeps lying on like
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line one power play 2 like so he he's not like an instant drop
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when someone comes back. But I do think that he's
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definitely going to take a big hit and could end up being a
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drop like a week later. Yeah.
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But also, Stone, who knows when this guys coming back, right?
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There's no news on him. And he could come back for a
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game and then get injured again. So that's another reason you
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might wanna hold on just to see if Stone is actually healthy
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when he comes back before you drop.
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But until then, yeah, I think this is a clear, clear pick up.
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Obviously, some leagues are super shallow.
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You're not gonna grab him. But like, line one, power play
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one on Vegas and putting up numbers.
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Yeah, this is kind of a no brainer to me.
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Love it as a pickup right now. Yeah, and on the vein of the
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Vegas Golden Knights, we've got Mitch Marner.
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Who? What is he doing?
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He's under a point per game. He doesn't shoot, he doesn't
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hit, doesn't block, doesn't win face offs.
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What? What does he do?
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You know, he sits in a chills in Vegas and collects his paycheck
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and then gambles it. I don't know.
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Why my question here? And like don't like.
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I really want you to think about it before you give me an answer.
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OK, I'm gonna would you rather on your team as far as
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alliteration goes trading Bowman original?
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OK, so easy. Yeah.
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What did you say? I is that is that easy Bowman?
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OK, OK, OK. Firstly tell all the listeners
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that was a joke. Please don't at us.
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But also I would say that's what's interesting about this is
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that his shots are horrible. Like it's really bad. 1.77 is
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kind of like unacceptable if you're not going to be a point
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for game player after getting this like amazing contract.
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So I don't know. I mean, look, this is still a
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good player. We spoke about it also on the
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previous episode. This is a decent player doing
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decent things, just way underperforming where you
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drafted him. I don't know if it's if it's
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Bilo territory, I think it's easy dilatory but it's like is
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it there yet? Do you think that because he was
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drafted in the second round? Yeah, I think that like pretty
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much all the back cat stuff, that's not going to change.
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I mean, that's what you drafted him knowing he's not a shooter
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and that he doesn't really do any backup stuff.
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The points are definitely going to go up.
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There's no way, there's no way he's finishing.
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Like in my mind I think he's he's like floor is like 1.1
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points per game. OK.
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OK. So yeah.
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So the object's gonna happen kind of soon.
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Now. Funny question, but like, this
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one's actually serious. Like, as long as Brandon
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Bowman's there, like, you know what I mean?
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Can Marner get to that level? I don't think Mariners getting
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line 1. I think they like him on line 2
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and they like the line one how it is.
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But I think that power play needs to is going to start
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clicking more and I think he's going to get more touches there.
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So that's definitely gonna help. Also, Marner could drive his own
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line. He doesn't need to ride the
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coattails of you know, like I'm sure it helps, but like he can
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do it. So he doesn't.
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So like the line 2 point deployment for Marner on Vegas
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team, like that line 2 has Dora Fav and hurdle.
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That's a that could be a line on a lot of the worst teams in the
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league. You know, like, yeah, that's a
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really good line. So I'm not too worried about
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Mariner. I already sent out a couple
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offers that got rejected for him.
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But yeah, I mean, just tell your expectations.
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He's not gonna get any blackouts.
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But you didn't get him for the back, he got for the points and
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those will come. Yeah, I wanna, I wanna do some
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Kenning here and ask you where the line is.
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OK, Yeah. Would you rather Mitch Marner or
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Broad Marshall Minor? And that's a great seller.
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By those all high saturation. Yeah, yeah, 100%.
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Jake Guentzel. That's tough, OK Denzel is going
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to end up like exactly a point per game and three shots.
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He's very easy to predict and that's you.
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Love that Marner's gonna get like 1.8 shots and like 1.1 to
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1.2 points. I'd still go Marner.
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It's still go Mariner. Yeah.
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OK. And last but not least, would
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you rather Mitch Marner or Adrian Kempe?
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That's a tough one because campaign packets are really
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sick, but Ellie's power play is a bleep show.
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Yeah, but. There is.
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I'm still going. I'm still going Mariner.
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Really. That's where I.
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Draw the line. And then I think I think it's
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totally fair to go camping. I just think that I don't like,
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I don't like the power play situation in LA, even though
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campaign doesn't need it to be over to point for game.
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Three shots, one hit. So I definitely don't blame you
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for taking that. I do think Mariners ceiling is
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just significantly higher. Agreed, but but like the the
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floor is like because he has. The floor so risky 100.
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Percent. So risky.
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Yeah, it's actually funny because like I started off with
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a joke about who's the best alliteration king, but to me
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it's like if it's not working, they're going to have to kind of
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try to kick start him like they they are.
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And I don't I agree. He could drive his own line and
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Dora favors an elite scorer. Then they've got them paired
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together. It's awesome.
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But like I go is really the best player on this team.
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And don't forget, I mean, it's been years now that he was
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playing with other Tavarus or Matthews.
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We haven't seen that without it. And Hurdle is not that.
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Like, he's not as good offensively as Tavarus,
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obviously, not as good as Matthews.
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Yeah. So it's to me, like, I don't
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think this is gonna happen necessarily, that they're just
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gonna like, bump off Brayden Bowman tomorrow or anything like
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that. But like, they need to kick
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start Marner, like they need to. So I just don't know how they're
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going to do it. Yeah.
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And as long as he's on that line too, like, I don't know when the
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production is going to turn around, like, really?
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Yeah. I will say, like we mentioned
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before, the Mark Stone returning is going to be very beneficial
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to Marner. So that's another thing to keep
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an eye out. But obviously who knows if such
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one that happens and for how long.
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Yeah, alright, last topic. Yes, I was gonna say to keep it
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like, actually hot. Yeah.
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Exactly how hot was a flame? Yeah, we've got Miss Anderson.
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Yeah, yeah. Rasmus Anderson.
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Oh my God, everybody's laughing. Jackie just discovered these are
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these buttons. OK, so you're wondering why you
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were waiting for these? That's why you didn't hear what
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are, you know, everyone was applauding there.
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Last we've got Erasmus Anderson of the Calgary Flames who is.
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If you haven't seen what he's been doing, go check out his
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game log. It's absurd getting 3 point
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games left and right. He's shooting, he's blocking
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power play points and it is extremely unsustainable.
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He is one of the clearest cell highs I've ever seen.
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And that's not to say I don't think losing that power play 1
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moment. I think he's cemented that he's
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going to be a power play on defenseman and he's going to be
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solid for the rest of the year, at least until the trade.
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And then trade could, you know, affect him either positively or
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negatively depending on if he goes to a team that wants him to
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be power play one or not. But I'll have to be said.
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The piece he's playing at is just out of his mind.
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No one does this, definitely not him.
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So he's a clear cell high. Yeah, there's really not much to
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say here. It's it's we spoke about it more
20:02
of weaker versus Anderson and that's really who who got hurt
20:05
in this transaction as Mackenzie Weeger.
20:07
Now that Anderson staple on Power Play 1.
20:10
And uh, yeah, it's, it's interesting.
20:12
If he does get treated, that's going to be spicy.
20:15
But for now, yeah, for now, enjoy it.
20:17
But his name is not zero and I really think you could sell like
20:21
if his name was if there was no name value.
20:23
But he's been good in the past and this is a big resurgence.
20:26
So I would really try to capitalize it on it 100%.
20:30
All right, let's. Get it?
20:31
Let's dive in to the mail bag. So I've got 2 questions here
20:36
that are kind of on the same vein, so I'm going to group them
20:38
together. So we've got CBC on Reddit asked
20:42
what's going on with Guenther? Is it going to get better?
20:45
And then Paltry Boot on Reddit, asked what do I do with Clayton
20:47
Keller? He's been liquid nitrogen old
20:49
lately, which I love that. So these are both obviously tied
20:53
together because all of Utah's top assets have been super cold
20:57
lately and people wondering what to do with them.
20:59
So in my opinion, they're all huge billows.
21:03
I think they're going to turn it around.
21:04
That team has too much offensive firepower to not be able to turn
21:08
it around. I think they've gone through
21:11
stretches in the past. They're also pretty young in
21:13
terms of their top assets and young guys usually means more
21:16
inconsistency. So you know, you ride through
21:19
the lows, then you get crazy highs.
21:21
Gunther and Keller are both guys I'm not worried about in the
21:23
slightest. It sucks to hold your star guys
21:25
when they're on a cold streak, but if you sell them at this
21:28
value, that's that's how you lose leagues.
21:30
And if you buy them at this value, that's how you win
21:31
leagues. My one thing with buying them is
21:33
they have a bad playoff schedule.
21:34
But other than that I'm all I'm all on board on grabbing them
21:37
buying low. Yeah, I, I, I know exactly what
21:41
you're saying with the the playoffs schedule.
21:43
That being said, like they're really, really good fantasy
21:46
assets. Yeah, these guys.
21:48
And I had a fast stat that I had pulled up before these
21:51
questions. And that's that is in the last
21:54
10 games. Utah is one for 22 on their
21:57
power play. Wow, that's not sustainable.
22:01
So they're messing around with it, trying to figure out what
22:03
works. It seems like Sergachev coolly
22:08
Guenther Keller, sorry, not cool.
22:10
He said Sergeyev schmaltz, Keller and Guenther are like the
22:13
locks and they're trying to figure out what to do with that
22:14
last spot right now. They hating on there.
22:17
I think their coach decided the reason we're not scoring is
22:20
because we can't win a face off on the power play.
22:21
And like, yes, winning a face on the power play helps, but you
22:24
know what put the guy who just put up a four goal, 5 point
22:27
night on your power play one. It's not it's not rocket
22:29
science, you know, So hopefully Cooley gets it back.
22:32
But even without that, like it should be popping off.
22:34
So one for 22 super unsustainable.
22:36
The power play is gonna come up. That's gonna bring up all their
22:38
point productions. They won the last game five one
22:40
versus Vegas. So they're still doing, they're
22:43
still doing stuff right. You know, they just need their
22:45
top guys to to wake up and get a bit.
22:47
So I'm not worried about at all. Yeah, no, this is great.
22:51
And for a bangers, again, there's honestly a stud Yeah,
22:55
like she's not he's he's like he should be in the conversation.
23:01
Like last episode we have Forsberg versus brat like
23:04
Guenther, like, is that good statistically?
23:07
And like, I mean, I'd still rather both those guys over him,
23:11
but that's where we should be talking about him.
23:14
And it's not even close right now.
23:16
He had a great, great start, like an insane start, actually,
23:20
And then it slowed down tremendously.
23:21
So I basically agree with everything you're saying as far
23:24
as it being a fantastic buy low and I I don't know who would you
23:29
rather on your team between the two.
23:32
Like taking Keller still, I think he's like really the
23:35
talismanic player on that team. But I love get there's a shot
23:38
volume, but Keller also shoots. I'm Glen colour for sure.
23:41
But but I love both these players.
23:42
I think they're both elite, elite talents.
23:44
Yeah, I would ignore the playoff schedule here to be honest, and
23:47
we don't. Like you get enough value, you
23:49
ignore the playoff schedule always.
23:50
Yeah, so I love it. I'm with you there, Hilo, for.
23:54
Sure, alright, Elysium AB on Reddit asked in a bangers league
23:59
that counts average time on ice and faceoff wins.
24:01
Are you taking or geeky Easy Stitzel?
24:04
And this is coming from the biggest geeky lover there is.
24:07
Right, average time on ice is such an interesting stat.
24:10
I know that's. Crazy.
24:11
I actually love that. That's really cool.
24:14
That's that's like I I don't, I don't know if I'd necessarily
24:18
want to play in the league with that, but big, big fan of it as
24:21
a concept. Yeah, I think it's gonna be one
24:24
of those things that although it seems that you can plan for
24:28
hours, Tom on ice, it may end up sort of playing out in effect,
24:31
like plus minus. Yeah, it seems a bit a bit
24:34
silly. Yeah, so because it's a bangers
24:37
league, I mean, Stitzel is an absolute, absolute least.
24:40
It's not so I know he's playing out of his mind and he's a great
24:43
sell high. I also like him.
24:45
I have him on my team, I drafted him and I'm not even like I am
24:48
sending out some offers, but ideally I just want to hold on
24:50
to him. I think he's gonna be great all
24:51
season, but this is a tier above.
24:53
Stool is definitely the pick. For sure.
24:56
OK, Paul on Discord ask, do you guys have non fantasy sports
25:00
jobs or do you do this full time?
25:01
Do you want this to become a career or just keep doing it for
25:03
fun? Well, yeah.
25:06
It's so fun. So it's not our full time yet.
25:13
I don't know about you, but I, I think like this is the dream to
25:16
like really make this a thing. And yeah, actually, but when it
25:21
comes down to it, I'd really, I guess I think that our goal is
25:25
to really make it so that the people listening to us derive
25:29
value from it. Fantasy sports are kind of in a
25:32
way, it's kind of like the same thing as like comedians, right?
25:35
It's sort of like an escape from your day-to-day.
25:37
And it's like a way to have fun. And that's really important as
25:40
time goes on. Life's not easy, so I will say
25:43
that. Getting philosophical on us
25:45
here, no like our. Goal really is to just like
25:47
actually make it make content that you like to hear that is
25:53
entertaining and also provides value for your fantasy hockey
25:57
leagues and really to connect with you guys.
25:58
That's why we preached the discord and the more you support
26:02
us, you know, the the better it is not just to make not just to
26:07
be successful, but to actually like it motivates us to just get
26:10
better and be better and. Yeah.
26:12
Yeah, so I mean, we have other jobs, but we really love it and
26:16
we wanna grow it as much as we can.
26:19
Yeah, definitely. Uh, yeah.
26:20
We have other jobs and like, in terms of like where we wanna go
26:23
with this. I mean, the Sky's the limit,
26:25
right? I mean, sometimes I think I, I
26:27
texted the guys, I woke up 1 morning and I was like, guys, I
26:29
don't know if you have this like recurring dream, but it's like
26:32
we blow up. We're on like TV on our own
26:34
panel during intermission, you know, or like just chatting like
26:37
we always do, you know? But like, yeah, yeah.
26:39
So we, you know, we got big enough we can start having like
26:42
actual Nhlers on our like, podcast as guests.
26:45
Like stuff like that is kind of stuff that we dream about.
26:47
But, you know, I think we're still a ways away.
26:50
But for every follow, you know, it's more chance that we can
26:52
get, you know, we can get my touch well on here, you know,
26:55
like, yeah. And then they can RIP us a new
27:00
one for, like, butchering their names because I know it's late,
27:02
but it's just funnier to say. Mattel yeah, yeah, great
27:07
question because it's fun. Alright.
27:10
Pock came in on Discord, asked our Tyler Toffoli and Aaron
27:13
Ekblad holes or drops in a redraft points league.
27:16
Rattle off some cats for you. Goals, assists, power play,
27:18
points to end points, shot hits, blocks and also asked Ken to
27:22
fully get back power play 1 and will Matthew that's return make
27:25
played better. So let's take this one player at
27:27
a time to Foley. I think is an safe drop right
27:29
now. He's not on power play 1 and I
27:32
don't think anyone's going to snatch him up.
27:33
Obviously the depth of the league matters, but I mean, even
27:36
in our league, which is super deep, I'm not dying to grab to
27:38
Foley or anything like that. He seems to fall in a bit out of
27:41
favor with the coaching staff in terms of deployment and time on
27:44
ice. So I think you can drop him
27:46
pretty safely. And then Ekblad is has always
27:51
been a drop in my opinion. The second the season started
27:53
and he saw that it was Jones on power play 1, Ekblad was a drop
27:56
to me. I mean, that's I just don't like
27:58
defensemen on my team who are not either power play one or a
28:01
pure bangers. So and he's neither and he's not
28:03
going to get power play one unless there's an injury or
28:05
something like that. I think he's a drop and I don't
28:08
think Matthew Couch coming back really has any impact on him.
28:12
Yeah, I'm totally with you there.
28:15
The when at the beginning of the season it was Eckblad and Jones,
28:18
if I'm not mistaken. So there was room for like, oh,
28:21
how is this going to shake out? But I don't even think I'd be
28:25
inclined to want any of them on my team.
28:27
We're in a deep league and I wouldn't, I would rather all my
28:31
defensemen over at Bud and I don't feel the need to pick up
28:34
the fully. Yeah, all right.
28:37
Joshua Furon on Discord asked our long term injured players
28:40
worth the same amount as when they were healthy, is it worth
28:43
trading for them to take a short term loss but a long term gain?
28:45
For example, Mark Stone, Matthew Kuchuk, Victor Hedman.
28:48
I love this question because we talk about on like a previous
28:52
episode, like what you're kind of like trade philosophy is
28:56
like, how do you come up with a trade?
28:57
Like stuff like that. We had mentioned like, OK, we
28:59
started like the bottom of the standings.
29:01
We look like, you know, who's struggling on their teams,
29:03
whatever. For me, another thing that I do
29:04
is I look at the second someone gets injured, I'm like, I need
29:07
to trade for that guy. You know, like especially if
29:10
it's if they get injured and they're on the one of the lowest
29:12
ranked teams in the league, like in our league, the bottom
29:16
person, the person who's last in the standings is Jack Hughes.
29:19
I've been sending out nonstop Jack Hughes offers.
29:21
And first of all, you definitely, definitely are worth
29:23
less than when they were healthy because they're not going to be
29:26
playing for the next, you know, foreseeable future.
29:28
And when it's a team that's struggling and trying to make
29:30
the playoffs, they actually care about that.
29:32
Look, if it's a team that's in first place and they have a guy
29:34
like that, they're going to be like, no, I'm not gonna trade
29:36
him for peanuts because I don't really, I'm not really worried
29:38
about how I'm doing the next couple of weeks because I'm
29:40
already doing so well in the standings.
29:42
So the combination of injured by and team that's struggling in
29:45
the standings, that's the sweet spot.
29:46
And again, on the other side, you have to be doing well in the
29:49
standings or feel comfortable with how you're going to do the
29:51
next few weeks to be able to take that short term loss.
29:53
But I think it's just thinking long term like that is so
29:57
valuable. And if you can get these, if you
29:59
have the IR spots available and you can make these types of
30:02
trades and get you guys out of discounts, then I love that.
30:05
Did you change your last name to Furon?
30:07
Because. This is like so you know this is
30:09
a question. Yeah, literally.
30:11
And Joshua and Joey like it's this is exactly.
30:14
It's my burger account, No, Yeah, we all have one.
30:19
The only thing I would add to that is basically that your
30:23
league can reward you for doing super well in the playoffs or
30:27
the season. Sometimes the split evenly,
30:28
sometimes it's more for playoffs.
30:30
So the more that it rewards you during the season, obviously
30:35
they lose like a tremendous amount of value for sure that I
30:38
mean sort. Of it's it's sorry, it's not
30:40
just about the like payout, right?
30:42
Some leagues also have like buy weeks if you finish like top two
30:45
in the league. Something like.
30:46
That, yeah. So that's.
30:47
I think about. However, it's rewarded so to me
30:50
because they're worth so much less.
30:52
Like as an example, Matthew to Chuck, well, he came into the
30:56
year injured, but like, let's say forsake of argument, you
30:59
know, Brady to Chuck, who was in the first round, he was drafted
31:02
the second he got injured, he missed what, six weeks or so?
31:05
Seven weeks already. Like if you could have traded
31:08
your second round pick for him, I mean, you wouldn't have staked
31:13
out that way in the draft, obviously, and you'd be reaping
31:15
the rewards and then some when he gets back.
31:18
So the whole idea is that you want to flip something, but you
31:21
don't want to flip them for what they're worth.
31:23
Of course, you don't want to give anything considerably less
31:26
valuable, so. Yeah, if you're paying for them
31:28
as if they were healthy, then you're not gaining anything from
31:30
the trade. You have to do it at a discount.
31:33
Absolutely. OK, Jodari on Discord asked if
31:37
you could be any NHL player, who would it be and why?
31:42
I don't know exactly Jake's answer.
31:46
I, I saw this question of the discord and then you said that
31:48
and I was like, who? Do you want me to tell you your
31:52
answer or do you wanna? Answer.
31:54
Actually, go for it. Jakey would choose to be Leon
31:58
Dry Seidel. Oh my God, no, no.
32:04
And the reason is no, no, no. This is all gonna simply be cut.
32:10
You can't cut this, I hyped it up too much in the discord.
32:13
That's correct. Anyways, the reason is because
32:16
Jakey thinks that he has the hottest WAG so.
32:26
OK, first of all, you're not wrong.
32:33
I I actually think he's super good looking too.
32:35
So they make an insanely good looking couple.
32:38
So there's that. I am very loyal to my girlfriend
32:43
who I love tremendously, but she agrees that Celeste is beautiful
32:48
so. She is very beautiful to me.
32:53
And yeah, I also feel like he's just like, he's a cool guy.
32:59
He's like funny, you know what I mean?
33:00
So I I. Even like when he's like a lead
33:03
on the ice, it's funny, you know, because he doesn't look
33:05
like he's trying. And then he'll do the most
33:07
insane stuff. That's it, that's it.
33:10
And then he has his girlfriend slash wife.
33:15
So I guess Leon's just kind of winning all around here.
33:19
So that's a good answer. Is it truly my answer?
33:24
I I guess. I did it be anything you could
33:28
think of. Yeah, wait, what about you?
33:32
Would you pick? The funny thing is, all I
33:34
thought about was your answer. I didn't even think of my own.
33:37
You're mine. You chose mine.
33:38
I'm gonna choose yours. OK, Yeah, I know exactly who
33:43
you're gonna go. OK, it would be Ben Sherrod.
34:02
And that's because Josh's wife finds Ben Sherrod super good
34:09
looking. I can't even argue.
34:14
That's exactly what I was gonna say.
34:18
But I will say there's some there's some lure behind this.
34:20
OK. He was on the Habs and were Habs
34:22
fans, right. And like when we started dating,
34:24
like I, you know, she didn't watch any hockey before.
34:26
Like we were dating and then we'd be watching the games and
34:28
she'd watch with me. And for some reason, the camera
34:31
crew for Habs games were obsessed with showing venture
34:35
out. Look, you think the guy with the
34:36
most ice time or the the best player on the team would get the
34:38
most like, you know, it's random commercial break and they just
34:41
passed to a player, right? No, it was always better on.
34:43
And she's like that guys a stud. And I'm like, yeah, he is, you
34:46
know, And then they just kept showing him and it became a
34:47
thing, like, we watching the game and, like, shouldn't be
34:50
paying attention. Like, we're watching the game
34:51
together, but like, it's really me watching it and she's on her
34:53
phone or something. And then, like, for a split
34:55
second, they show Ben shot on screen and she's like, hot.
34:57
And I'm like, you weren't even paying attention to, like, they
34:59
scored like three goals. You did not react once, you
35:01
know, like, anyways, yeah, great, great, great answer.
35:05
Jackie, you saved it. That's amazing.
35:08
I wanna know who Kevin would be. That's the one.
35:12
He would be Michael Pezzetta for the same reason as as my my
35:15
Ventura. I think.
35:21
I think Emily finds dry side all good looking too.
35:24
So. I think like I like we've spoken
35:27
about this, so I think, I think I'm in the clear here too,
35:30
alright. Joshua Freon with another great
35:32
question on discord so I had to include it.
35:34
What's a stat that you wished counted for fantasy but doesn't
35:37
or is super rare? Height now.
35:41
I literally, we talked about this cheeky.
35:43
It's the height for 60. You know, it's just like this
35:46
team would be off the charts, literally off the size charts.
35:49
My alternative would be protest for which player I would be,
35:52
because that man is just so. Tall.
35:54
But. Good.
35:57
How does? A great question I I I think
36:01
that like shooting percentage would be pretty fun yeah OK,
36:07
that would be pretty cool and I feel like that's also like
36:11
realistic to. It's like counterintuitive
36:13
though, because like when you're kind of like targeting guys who
36:17
have who are like maybe are more unsustainable or also just like
36:20
don't shoot much, which kind of like goes against like what
36:22
normally you'd be like targeting.
36:23
But like, you see a guy like, you know, I mean, my goat Morgan
36:26
Geekie, he was like been shooting like over like 25% for
36:29
like the past two years, you know, and you're like, how does
36:32
he do it? You know?
36:33
So yeah, that's that's a really interesting one.
36:35
Yeah, I feel like it is. It's a game shots.
36:38
It's like inversely correlated with.
36:40
Shots yeah, which is really interesting because usually you
36:42
don't have inversely correlated positive stats.
36:45
So that's really cool. I know that someone in the
36:47
discord mentioned this and I really like it is a takeaways.
36:51
That's such an under. We've talked about it actually,
36:53
like us, me, you and Kevin about implementing that entirely and
36:57
it's just such a unique stat. But it is like fantasy at the
37:00
end of the day. It should be about, you know,
37:02
better players being valued more right and like defensive play
37:06
does not really get valued at all in fancy like hits and
37:09
blocks is like is a way of doing that right, but it's not
37:11
necessarily the same. And so that's a super
37:13
interesting one. And that would be like, I think
37:14
back in the day, like that would be like Pavel Datsyuk could be
37:17
made insane at that, right. He was good at like the
37:19
takeaways. And sometimes I watch like, you
37:21
know, you know, you classic, like you go on YouTube, you
37:23
watch top ten goals of whatever top ten says whatever, you know,
37:25
like I've watched like top ten like Pavel tattoos, like steals
37:28
and like it's a really entertaining to watch.
37:31
He's like picks the pocket, you know, and like goes and like
37:33
turns it into an opportunity. So don't be a really cool one.
37:36
Takeaways is amazing and I just thought of another one I think
37:39
I'd like to see even first of all, really though, takeaways,
37:42
I've been preaching that for a long time.
37:43
It's amazing. I think that even better than
37:47
shooting percentage would be percentage of teams points.
37:52
That's all. That's a lot, but that'd be.
37:55
Sick. Like that would be like and
37:57
every week it resets right. So it's.
37:59
OK for the. Yeah, exactly.
38:01
Like if Tampa Bay Lightning score ten goals in a week and
38:06
Kucherov is gets 4 points right? Goals or assists, whatever that
38:12
means that his participation rate is 4.
38:16
Yeah, or let's say you say like each goal has three points of
38:18
involved with it. So ten goals would be like 30.
38:20
So you'd be like 4 out of 30. So, yeah, no, that's a, that's a
38:22
very, very. Interesting too, actually.
38:24
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that. That's even better, to be
38:26
honest. But the only thing would be.
38:28
Like in the weeds. Yeah, and the only thing is
38:30
like, what if you picked up a player for only half the week?
38:32
No, but I guess it's still, that's still fine.
38:34
It would be how many points he got that game out of the total
38:37
points. Yeah, anyway, super, super like.
38:40
Complicated, majorly advanced, but like I actually like
38:42
referencing that. Like I did it for our BI Lo this
38:45
past week, products actually, and like that was like a big
38:48
thing. Like that's really goes to show
38:50
how important is because like good players on bad teams, bad
38:52
players on good teams, But like, you know, when you have a good
38:54
player on a good team, like that's it shows in the
38:58
statistics. Like that's a really important
38:59
thing. Even looking into it for draft
39:01
season, it's probably like a big factor of what I've.
39:04
Talked about, We talk about talismanic a lot, right?
39:06
That would be the name of that cat.
39:08
It would be how talismanic are you to your team?
39:11
That's it, that's it. The the talismanic style I love.
39:14
It yeah, that's my answer. It's nice, I love that.
39:17
Yeah. OK, Vancouver on discord asked
39:20
what type of league do you guys prefer?
39:22
Redraft, dynasty or keeper? And how deep do you prefer your
39:25
league? How many players owned?
39:27
Are you a Canucks fan? I think they're they're discord
39:31
picture is is the Canucks logo and their name is Vancouver.
39:34
Maybe it's devour Canucks like. Jacques Clouseau, detective work
39:38
by me over there. Yeah, you're good.
39:40
So do you prefer to me? I think the Dynasty is my least
39:46
favorite. I actually do one for football
39:48
and it's a whole thing like pins in it too.
39:53
We're we're big fantasy football fans.
39:55
But and it's fun. It's cool.
39:57
I think that, but that's an easy one.
40:00
Like I I'd rule it out now. I really like keeper a lot.
40:07
I think it's really fun. That's probably my answer, but
40:10
I've never done a keeper categories league, so I wonder
40:12
how that would go. I think that would be pretty
40:14
cool. I'm going to quit keepers points
40:15
league which I really enjoy but to me like the trouble with
40:22
dynasties. In general it's just like it
40:24
becomes like a lot and it's super deep, whereas at least
40:28
keeper you keep it to the same level as a redraft size, which
40:31
is nice because it's all relevant players for this year
40:34
and as far as the league size, it's got to be at least 12 man
40:36
league. Yeah, and I mean in terms of
40:39
like players own, so I like 12 like 14 I think is the sweet
40:41
spot in terms of like teams, 12 is like the minimum.
40:44
I'll go 12 to 14, but 14 is the best.
40:46
And then I really like our league size.
40:48
What do we have like 2222 rosters?
40:51
So it's like about 303 hundred players, something like that 280
40:55
to 300 players I think is the sweet spot.
40:57
I like where like you have to dive into like you have to pick
40:59
up some of those like under 10% owned guys, but also like you
41:03
don't have to roster. Like I know that Kevin is in a
41:04
league with one of our fans and and that they literally rosters
41:09
the entire NHL. And I just think that's that's
41:11
way too overkill. Like that's that's just
41:13
ridiculous. So like, I really like.
41:14
This team at that point, yeah, exactly.
41:16
That's the team. You know what?
41:18
I. Mean yeah, I.
41:19
Know shade to it, it's kind of fun, but that wouldn't all be
41:22
like where I would like stake the majority of my time.
41:26
Really. Yeah, exactly.
41:28
And then it's 300 years of the type.
41:31
I fully agree. I mean, I've only ever done
41:32
redraft, so I'm going off like what I think.
41:34
I think honesty would be my least favorite just because my
41:37
favorite part of the year is the draft.
41:38
Like that's like I I mean, I love everything after it,
41:40
obviously, but like the draft is so exciting.
41:42
And then like dynasty, you draft once and then I know you draft
41:45
every year for like rookies and whatever, but like, yeah, for
41:47
the most part you drafted and that's just your team forever.
41:50
You know, like especially in a team that doesn't in a league
41:52
that doesn't trade much, also like that's just brutal to me.
41:54
So so definitely would be my bottom choice.
41:57
And then I've never done it. I think I would put keeper at
42:00
first just because I've been dying to I love trading.
42:02
I've been dying to toss and draft picks into my trades.
42:04
Like that just sounds like so fun.
42:05
Like I could see like, you know, tanking one year, just getting
42:08
like a billion first pigs are like going the other way and you
42:11
know, like mortgaging the future for like whatever.
42:13
So I think that has just a lot of a lot of good potential and I
42:16
think it makes a lot more interesting trades, let's just
42:20
say trade options, so. Trading for good keeper values
42:23
too is also a fun. Dot yes, 100% it's very lot of
42:26
fun trade stuff there and trading my favorites so.
42:29
Let us know in the comments what your favorite league type is
42:32
between the three. OK, Frank on Discord asked if
42:37
your team is stacked and poised to win, is it worth selling some
42:40
pieces to improve draft picks for next year?
42:42
So it's kind of ties into the draft pick stuff.
42:44
I mean, at the end of the day, I think it's just what matters
42:46
most is winning this year, right?
42:48
You don't wanna cost yourself the win because you're thinking
42:51
of future years. But if you can win this year by
42:54
just a slow, a smaller margin while also prepping for next
42:57
year, then yeah, 100% go for it. Yeah, I think it's kind of fun
43:01
to look at this as an IRL example.
43:04
I think Ryan O'Reilly for Tage Thompson is such a win for
43:07
Buffalo for Tage Thompson yet, Yeah, Saint Louis Blues won the
43:10
Cup, Yeah. So you can't really say that a
43:14
team that won the Cup didn't win the trade.
43:16
And Buffalo's probably not winning Stanley Cup in 20/25/26.
43:20
So all this to say, like you do things in fantasy for the same
43:24
reason you want to win. So it's absolutely fine to hope
43:28
mortgage your future fantasy hockey wise and fantasy hockey
43:31
wise important out there. It's it's very important to to
43:38
try to win this year if you have the opportunity.
43:40
Where I would just kind of go a little deeper here is that
43:44
teams, there's no real concrete way of looking at this.
43:48
But as the season goes on and these teams see that they're not
43:52
making the playoffs, it could be two things.
43:55
It could be like, wow, OK, well, person in first place, let's say
43:59
Frank is in first place. I'm not going to like, I know
44:02
he's desperate for the value here.
44:04
Like I'm going to demand an even higher premium.
44:06
And on the other hand it's like, oh wait, like I'm losing
44:08
anyways, I may as well get what I can for my players.
44:10
So know your league mates is a big one there because I've been
44:13
in this position before with our keeper league I was just
44:16
mentioning and it's really tough to find that balance.
44:20
Yeah. So be very strategic with when
44:22
you trade to bolster your chances of winning this.
44:26
Yeah, 100%. OK, Gran Admiral Spoons on
44:29
Discord asked if you had to build a fantasy All Star lineup
44:32
based on your league season so far.
44:33
Who makes the cut? So let's do one of each
44:36
position. Let's start with goalies.
44:38
Who do you think is the best goalie this year?
44:41
I mean if you're going on averages it's wall stud because
44:44
he's just shutting out every single game.
44:45
If you're going on like short ish term, but like over the
44:49
course like a month, I'd go like Askerov honestly, because what
44:51
he's doing is nuts. Over the course of the whole
44:54
season so far. I mean, honestly, it could be
44:58
like wood Wedgewood. I was gonna say it.
44:59
Could be Wedgewood, yeah. So, so let's put, let's toss a
45:03
Wedgewood as our goalie of our All-Star fantasy team so far,
45:07
Centre. I feel like it's gotta be
45:08
McKinnon, right? No one's gonna beat that.
45:11
Um, yeah, wingers. Who's who's well.
45:14
This is this is interesting though, like let's should we do
45:17
this based on like what we think is gonna be like an actual All
45:19
Star team or based on the performance?
45:21
I know, he said so far, but like you.
45:23
Mean from now on for the rest of the season.
45:26
Yeah, just like which is like the best top five at each
45:29
position type like best because like I feel very weird putting
45:32
wedding Agreed it's wrong. But like someone who's been
45:37
super good who coming into this year, like who could make like a
45:41
like right now. I mean, I would have rather Tom
45:43
Wilson than than Nikita Kucherov based on how this season gone.
45:46
But like, I can't say that you know what I.
45:48
Mean. OK, Fair.
45:49
Fair. Yeah, but let's be fun about
45:52
this. Yeah.
45:53
So a goalie, I would say, like someone I really believe in and
45:57
who's also been really good this year.
46:00
I can see Darcy Kemper being the best.
46:02
Let's go. I had a feeling you're gonna say
46:04
that. My team.
46:05
Yeah, I think that's like totally fair.
46:07
Logan's Hobson had an insane stretch, but like Kemper was a
46:11
bit of a rough start, but been very, very consistent otherwise.
46:14
So he's kind of like my goalie and I'll be like reasonable
46:18
about this, I guess in a way to say that like it's it's not
46:22
flashy name like Bass or Chester.
46:24
Yeah, but I really. Like, no, I like it.
46:25
Let's let's do make it a bit more interesting than just
46:27
putting the best player. OK, fine.
46:28
So there's goalie centre. Let's put Leo Carlson.
46:31
Honestly fair. Like, yeah, you know, we're
46:34
being fun about it, right? Like obviously it's McKinnon,
46:36
but like that's what Leo Carlos in there because he's in he's in
46:38
super fun and like. A good way to answer this is,
46:40
like, under the radar, but like, also really could be learning at
46:44
each one. Exactly.
46:45
So let's go with that right wing.
46:47
I'm picking Connor Bedard. Yeah, I think that's fair.
46:51
I think that's fair. He was not after in the first
46:52
round. Now, uh, left wing gotta go.
46:59
Yeah, honestly, like I feel. Or what about what about the
47:03
geek? The geek man.
47:05
Yeah, fine. There you go.
47:07
Let's let's go working geeky, honestly, right?
47:09
And then who are our two defensemen?
47:12
Chicken. Chickens been nuts.
47:14
Morrissey's been pretty nuts. Yeah, yeah.
47:17
I mean. That's that's just off the top
47:20
of my head. I'm not even looking.
47:21
At like car feels unfair. Yeah, Yeah.
47:24
We know Big McKinnon not thinking my car cause those are
47:25
just the obvious ones. Yeah, I like that.
47:28
Those are kind of like guys who have been outperforming, let's
47:30
say what? Chicken Morrissey.
47:33
Yeah, like that. All right.
47:36
All right, Mitch Jay on Discord asked.
47:38
Is Saros a drop on waivers? There's guys like Walstead,
47:41
Grieves, Kochetkov, Talbot, Schmid.
47:43
I'm dropping zeros for Walstead. I don't know about you, but I
47:46
know that's crazy. But like, yeah, I, I think that
47:50
I think that doing that, I'm definitely not dropping him for
47:53
Talbot, definitely not dropping him for speed and not dropping
47:56
in for Chekov, not for Grieves either.
47:58
I think Walt's the only one that I would drop zeros for out of
48:00
this. List.
48:01
Yeah, I'm with you there. Let's we got the same answer.
48:04
Cool. Love it.
48:05
Yeah. And lastly, Alexander on Discord
48:08
asked IS0G only viable for redraft leagues or can it also
48:11
be good in keeper slash dynasty leagues?
48:14
It's a great. Question Dynasty.
48:16
I would say no because that's that's like a long term thing
48:23
and like you you, you have a much deeper league in dynasty.
48:27
And the reason 0G works is because you have yes, per
48:31
Walstead. My 3 goalies right now at the
48:34
time of this recording are Sheila was Wellstead and Dobesh.
48:37
None of them were drafted. And although I don't have
48:40
incredible conviction in any one of them individually, I mean
48:44
Wallace is looking really good, but the Gustus in situation it's
48:47
up in the air. Whatever.
48:48
I think that 1 1/2 of them are gonna do really well this year.
48:52
I don't know how it's going to shake and I don't mean that he's
48:57
going to become half a goalie, but I just AM.
48:59
Going with Walstead and bottom half shield, bottom half of
49:02
dovish, that's my answer. It's like Dobish I think.
49:04
It's like I don't know between. Dobesh.
49:08
Sheilas. So to me it's like these guys
49:11
weren't drafted, nobody talked about them at the beginning of
49:14
the season and now they're on my team.
49:17
Whereas you can draft Connor Hellebuyck and he is.
49:21
I can guarantee you that for the next 4 weeks she loves is going
49:24
to be better than Ella Bug. So it's the opportunity cost
49:28
because it literally is gonna be hard.
49:29
But yeah, it's the opportunity cost of missing out on a good
49:32
player there. Like that's the way I see it
49:33
where we're I never want to pick a goalie super high.
49:36
Moreover, it's because you could pick somebody up dynasty you
49:40
don't have that luxury. So.
49:42
It's way too. Risky.
49:43
I fully agree. And I think another interesting
49:45
way of looking at it is that what I like about 0G is in any
49:48
given year, someone's gonna. It always happens where a goalie
49:52
comes out of nowhere and just has the most insane year.
49:54
But usually that goalie doesn't like maintain it, right?
49:58
It's like a one year thing. Like, remember that year?
50:00
Where what was it? Who so on on Saint Louis, you
50:03
grabbed him and he went on that insane run and then he's a
50:05
waiver guy for the rest of his career.
50:07
You know, like, yeah, so year over year.
50:09
And that's what makes 0G so valuable is the fact that on any
50:11
given year, any goalie could come out and be the best goalie
50:14
that year. But in terms of like consistency
50:16
over the course of multiple years, that's not going to
50:19
happen for the most part. So that's why I think it's
50:21
mainly every draft strategy. Yeah, and the last thing to top
50:26
that off is Dobesh and Wall Street where there's no way they
50:29
were on your dynasty unless it's like a super shallow league.
50:32
They were not on your waivers. I'd be very for sure not whilst
50:35
that whilst that's like as soon as you would draft, he was
50:38
probably like the third or fifth overall pick there.
50:41
The the the big 1 is, it's interesting because in a keeper
50:45
league you could maybe GO0G. Like me, that just depends how
50:49
many keepers I think. Yeah.
50:51
And then it gives you the opportunity to buy at a premium
50:54
as opposed to draft next year. But I'd say yeah, in that order.
50:59
Redraft is by far the best then keeper than dynasty.
51:02
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