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AM800 CKLW Monday Roundtable with Councillor James Dorner, Irene Moore Davis, & Tracy Martens · Kvetch & Release

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Join the conversation The Dan McDonald Show with guest host John Lidkey on AM eight
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Nine oh five July twenty second. This month is flying by. It's a
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Monday. John Lidkey here filling in for Dan McDonald all a week. Hope
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you do tune in with it being a Monday and the top of the show
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where you are going to dive right into the Monday round table. And we've
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got some pretty great guests joining me right now to come see counselor James Dorner.
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James, how you doing, I'm doing right, yourself doing very well?
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Thanks for being here on this Monday. We also have Tracy Martin's host
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YQG in Bloom podcast. How you doing good? It's nice to finally meet
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you. Great to finally meet you, and also happy birthday. Thank you.
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You're welcome and all around town you will be able to Irene Moore Davis,
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educator, historian, writer, podcaster, activist. There's others that I
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could list, we don't have the time. How you doing, good morning,
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I'm fine. How are you very well? It's so great to have
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all of you here. In the studio. Thank you so much. We're
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going to start right with today's AM eight hundred CKLW News poll question. Do
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you agree with President Joe Biden's decision to bow out of the twenty twenty four
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US presidential election. You know, we have been sort of, I can
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think, leading up to this for the past number of weeks, since there
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was that debate performance which does subpar, did not go great for the President
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of the United States against his opponent, well, excuse me, his former
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opponent now former President Donald Trump. There had been chatter about him leaving.
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We saw some pretty high profile names calling for Biden to step out. We
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saw Danny Ocean, who was of course George Clooney from Ocean's eleven pulled off
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one of the biggest heists, quite frankly, and being able to pull this
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one off, it's not surprising that I think that there's been an appetite for
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this. People have wanted to not have, quite frankly, an election between
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two very old, geriatric white guys, and this really does change things up.
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Now we don't know who the Democratic candidate will be, although I think
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we can pretty well go and presume it's going to be Vice President, Kamala
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Harris, Iren, I want to bring your voice in first on this one.
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You know, you're you're a woman, you're a person of color.
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This is a pretty consequential moment in history. If Kamala Harris is what she
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appears to be, the presumed front runner to take up the mantle. I
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love your thoughts and I'm an Alpha Kappa Alpha like Kamala Harris is my silver
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war There you go. Anyway, I think it was really you know,
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two things can be true. At the same time, it was very sad
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to see the manner in which a wonderful leader somebody's provided, you know,
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decades of public service, the way that he had to step down. But
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it was necessary, you know, not just because of the debate performance,
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but you know, because of his health. There are some challenges there.
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He had to introduce some restrictions such as no campaign events after eight pm so
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we can get asleep, like all that stuff. That just isn't realistic in
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a US presidential election or in most countries. Frankly, it's a marathon.
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It's a very long campaign process. It involves a lot of hours, it
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requires a lot of energy and a lot of mental acuity, and just a
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lot of time. So I think he made the right choice. And as
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for Kamala Harris, I think she's very well qualified. She's more qualified than
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the guy shall be running against if she is the nominee, and certainly has
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been the Attorney general of California, has had this wonderful career in the Senate,
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has had opportunities to serve under the President. I think that she knows
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as much about what has to happen and what's going on as a lot of
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people who might be her challengers. So I just hope that Democrats can coalesce
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around one candidate and take this more straight down. Well, it is looking
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like if they are coalescing around her. Quite frankly, we have seen a
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number of endorsements over just I mean, it hasn't even quite been twenty four
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hours yet one hundred and nineteen House members, seventeen senators, eight governors,
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Presidents Biden and the Clinton's in the House. Eight of nine of the squad
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members unions have come forward, Cabinet members have come forward. That was just
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as of eight forty five pm last night. Counselor Donner, I want to
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bring your voice in on this one as an elected official. I mean,
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you spend so much time getting to the point to run again, and in
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this case, you feel as if I'd imagine Biden still says there's a lot
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he wants to do, but he's made a very tough choice. Just I
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wonder how that resonates with you as an elected So the first thing that I
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thought of when I heard Biden was not seeking reelection is I looked into just
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how long he was elected before. And he's been doing this his entire adult
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life, so this has been his only career, so he's got quite the
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legacy with this. The fact that he chose to step away means he can
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leave on his own terms and he's not going to through his health issues or
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whatever else he's dealing with. He's not going to drag the party down with
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them. So I thought it was an inadmirable move for him to do that,
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as he's not causing any damage to his legacy or his reputation by who
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knows what would happen if he were to try to seek reelection in that nomination,
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sorry, that election campaign with what we've seen in his debates, So
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I thought it was a good move on his part and it secures his legacy
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for his decades of public service. Well, we're definitely seeing a lot of
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words thrown around like patriot, putting party and country before himself. And I
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agree with both of those statements. And he is the one who framed this
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election as running from a democracy versus autocracy, versus dictatorship versus a potential backsliding
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away from the freedoms that the United States citizens have to enjoy. So I
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think there was a very real risk that if he goes and puts himself at
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the forefront of this conversation moving forward, and he were to lose and then
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Donald Trump were to be elected, that would really it would tarnish the legacy
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his past fifty plus years in public service. People wouldn't discuss them anymore.
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They would discuss how he was the arbiter for Donald Trump to come into a
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second term. Tracy, you were chatting about how you know it's impossible for
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a lot of us who avoided watching some of this on television yesterday and last
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night, I'm just wondering what your thoughts are. Well, literally word for
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word, I was going to say what James Dorner said about how he is
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Biden is preserving his legacy. And I'm glad that he didn't just quit right
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after that horrible performance at the at with Trump, because then it would look
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like he was running. He gave it a lot of thought, and he
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spoke to a lot of people and he got all of his ducks in a
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row, which to me shows a lot of integrity. And honestly, listening
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to it last night on CNN and listening to everybody in the Democratic Party,
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it's really revitalizing them and they're getting excited again, and I think they're really
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bringing it. They're being hopeful for once, and it's been a while since
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we've seen that from that party. Well, I mean again, it was
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very clear from polling that people were not happy with the choices that were presented.
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It was like going to the butcher shop and being offered a rotting steak
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or a rotting pork shop, and it's like, I don't want either of
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these right now, quite frankly, it doesn't sound kosher, quite frankly either.
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But we did have a state thank you, Irene for that. We
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did have a statement that came out from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau that I wanted
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to read He put it out yesterday at around four thirty in the afternoon,
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so not long after the news had broke. I've known President Biden for years.
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He's a great man and everything he does is guided by his love for
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his country. As president, he is a partner to Canadians and a true
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friend to President Biden and the first lady thank you. So we've seen a
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lot of these thank yous coming out from politicians, from other politicians electeds,
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James, I wonder is that just you know, is that just a standard
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electoral platitude that we're seeing there, or political platitude that the Prime minister put
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out, or is there something of substance there. Well, first, I'll
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say I was hoping that Justin Trudeau was going to take some inspiration. But
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with that, no, like it is you have meeting other elected officials like
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you do under like you understand how you're putting yourself out there. So no
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matter what side of the isle you're on, or what party you're with or
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what municipality you represent, when you see another one like you have that respect
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for them and everything they've done. So I felt as if it was somewhat
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heartfelt. I think so as well. I think that you could also do
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both at the same time. You can check the box that needs to be
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done as the politician. We got to make a statement, but can also
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be true as well. And you know, Justin Trudeau is a lot like
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Biden in the sense, you know, always in the public spotlight, has
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been around longer than you know, maybe admittedly by yourself. Jamesivile might want
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to see him around for these days. We'll find out does Justin Trudeau take
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a page out of the Biden playbook or not? Moving forward? We'll just
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have to wait and see on that one. We are going to keep the
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Monday roundtable going with James Dorner, Irene Moore Davis and Tracy Martin's keeping this
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conversation about US President Joe Biden dropping out. We want to shift gears a
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little bit and talk a little bit more about who appears to be the front
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runner to take over the mantle, Vice President Kamala Harris. We got a
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couple of texts, though I wanted to get through right now. One person
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saying, Donald Trump and Pierre PUALLYEV twenty twenty four talk about a dynamic duo.
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Another person says, sorry, I don't agree on this, Where has
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Kamala been for the last four years? For real, She's not hardly there
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or been involved at all or seen. Sure, she has a better chance
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than Biden, but she won't do anything different. Take Trump's personality or the
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equation, He's a better candidate principles before personalities. Irene, what are your
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thoughts about that? I appreciate democracy and I love that everyone can have their
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say anyway, I think she has been pretty involved. Kamale Harris has been
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rather involved. You always see her in the room. She's involved at every
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level. I think that there was always kind of an understanding that she was
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in training, and certainly we've seen her presiding over the Senate and doing all
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kinds of things that are really important roles that may not be glamorous or particularly
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picked up in the news all the time, but she is very involved,
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very busy, and certainly very capable. I think that what's really the scary
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part here is the timing. I appreciate that the President took his time and
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you know, didn't make an immediate move following the debate, but there's also
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a very short period of time left for American to really get to know her
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and understand what her qualifications are. I hope that she is going to hit
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the ground running in terms of this campaign and just make sure that everybody really
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comes to understand what her capabilities are and what her stances are, because she
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doesn't have the luxury that a lot of candidates have going into an election of
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this significance of months and months of lead time to become household names and to
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have sort of that educated voter know all about them. So wishing her the
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best. I mean, my endorsement doesn't count for anything. I can't vote
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there, but hey Americans, I love y'all and wishing you the best to
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you know who can vote there? My dad, and he'll go and say
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the number one qualifier for Kamala Harris is that he went to high school with
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her in Montreal at West Mount. Albeit he didn't go with her, he
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was there before she was there, But if you listen to him tell the
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story, I'm pretty sure they walk down the halls together and he probably told
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her to get into politics. He just loves that fact than anything else that
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he can say, Hey, someone I went to high school with might become
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president of the United States. That's pretty cool. So they don't appear at
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any one point in the same year book. No, not at all.
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I don't think they cross paths whatsoever. But it's still a story he likes
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to tell, and that's fine. I get to tell it here on the
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station. You know, James, you look at Kamala Harris, what do
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you think she brings to the table or do you think that, you know,
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is it enough to be able to vanquish the former president Donald Trump.
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So the two things I'll say on that is, I have so like so
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much limited bandwidth to pay attention to certain things like right now, my time
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on council everything else. I don't have time to look at the little details
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of what's yeah going on over in the States. But with that, I
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bet you that her when she was running for VP to begin with with Biden,
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I'm sure there was always a chance that like she knew that she might
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become president due to Biden's age and his health. So with that, I
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can say that she's probably been preparing for this, as my experience municipally is
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almost every deputy mayor wants to become mayor next and her being the vice president,
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probably knew she was going to run for president. So with that,
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hopefully her name's out there enough that she can have a good you know,
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for stepping off. But I'd say that she's been preparing for this her entire
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yeah, her whole time. Now, Well, you know what you're getting
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into. When you become vice president. There's always the potential that it becomes
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the presidency. There's also always the potential that it becomes HBO's hit series VP.
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And it just is filled with the comic antics quite frankly there. And
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we've been listening to some clips. Ed's been playing them earlier on the Morning
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Drive. Of the clip where she says, we're not leaving, Potus is
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leaving. We get to become Potus now, and it's amazing just how the
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parallels take a Yeah, we can take a listen to that clip. My
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fellow Americans' words have many meanings, and sometimes instead of conveying our meaning,
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they can suggest other meaning. The children of the community. No, that's
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all good. Sometimes we got some grimlins that kicked through. Tracy, let's
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bring your voice in on this one. Do you think that Vice President Kamala
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Harris is going to be able to muster the national attention that's required here?
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I think so. I mean, people were really looking at her when they
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were deciding who is going to be the Democratic nominee way back when it ended
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up being Biden. But she was pretty strong in the polls as well.
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And being that she's been in the government for her entire career as well as
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being a lawyer, she has great experience and she's got a great, strong
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personality that I think she would be formidable and very very knowledgeable, and definitely
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I think she can hold her own against Trump. It'll be interesting to see,
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that's for sure. Well, we've got one person who is sending in
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numerous texts about how they do not like Kamala Harris. She's worse than Biden.
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She's very disliked based on the polling data. Mike though texting and saying
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John in a way, this is a sad swan song for Biden. He
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served his country for decades and to have the unclassy Trump take pot shots was
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undeserved. And yeah, we did see that on the way out President former
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President Trump did not find his better angels. Although I don't don't I don't
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know, I don't know why we have this conversation every time the media decides
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to go like, oh, is Donald Trump going to become a new candidate
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and we have to actually like go through this like dog and pony show,
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pretending that it's real, Like Irene, I mean, are you surprised that
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Donald Trump didn't come out conciliatory and wish Joe Biden the best in his erst
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while retirement years. Donald Trump has no respect for anyone but Donald Trump.
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I mean, just his treatment of John McCain alone sort of informed us of
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that, right, Like, no respect for veterans, no respect for people
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who observed the country in various ways. So I'm not surprised that he had
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no conciliatory or you know, diplomatic statements to make about Biden. And I
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was very frankly sad to see the new vice presidential nominee for the Republicans vance
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saying see, I mean I'm paraphrasing, this isn't the exact wording, but
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see, we told you he's too old, and now he should just step
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down from the presidency too, because obviously he can't do this. I mean,
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Biden has agreed to serve the rest of his term and to do his
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best and to focus on running the country, leading the country. So I
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think he's made a very admirable move. I wish that there was a greater
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tone of civility in existence in society all over, but especially in the United
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States right now, that would allow for people of opposite political views to still
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show respect to one another in times like these. I don't know how great
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a strategy it is for the Trump campaign to continue to attack Joe Biden for
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being old, demanding that he stepped down the presidency. I mean, he's
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out of the conversation now, we're not discussing him for reelection. They want
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to go and make hay about him remaining president, Like so be it,
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use your bandwidth on something that quite frankly out that he's not stepping down from
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the presidency. But every time you go and highlight that Joe Biden's old,
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all that I can think right now is Donald Trump is the oldest candidate for
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president in US history, full stop. And if he goes up against Kamala
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Harris, that's like thirty years his junior. I mean, the differences are
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going to be so stark. And James, I mean, you've had to
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go and ask for people's votes, and you've sought and you've received people's votes.
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I mean, what's it like when you have to run against that.
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I mean, I don't know what your situation was like out into Cumcye,
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but I could imagine, you know, running against a candidate who is maybe
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a complete opposite of you, not just like physically in appearance, but also
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you know, in your values and your ideals. No, so that did
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happen when I was campaigning for my seat on council. The person I ran
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against, he was he was older. Like anyway, I ran my own
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race. I was not reacting to his. I didn't want to say,
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well, he's this so on that. I just said, this is what
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I'm bringing to the table. I feel as if as soon as you start
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reacting to your opponents, then you're not a leader anymore. You're just a
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follower. So the best thing to do for anyone running is just run your
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own race, Like, just stay in your lane, put your blinders on,
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and do your thing and not speak to what you want to achieve.
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Don't speak to what the other person is doing wrong or things like that.
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That makes sense. You don't want to be letting someone else set the narrative
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and you're there jumping through hoops to what they have to say. Just keep
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your head on the straight and narrow. Yeah, and like voters will like
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read like right through that. As soon as you start campaigning on how the
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other person's not doing or like that they can't achieve those goals or things like
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that, they'll like, people will sniff that right out. I guess you
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don't want to be the preferbial dog that goes squirrel every time that, like
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something else pops up when you're trying to do your campaigning. It makes sense.
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Well, it's nine twenty eight. We're gonna take a quick break right
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now. We've got the nine to thirty Information Update coming up next with Paul
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McDonald, and then we're going to keep the Monday Roundtable going with to come
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see count James Dorner, educator, historian, writer, podcaster and activist,
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Irene Moore Davis and host of the YQG in Bloom podcast. On her birthday,
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Tracy Martins, John Lidkey here on AM eight hundred CKLW glad to be
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joined with Tracy Martin's host of the YQG in Bloom podcast, Irene Moore Davis,
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historian, educator, writer, podcaster and activist you'll see her all over
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the city and the community and then to come see counselor. James Dorner joins
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us as well. We just spent the last two segments talking about Joe Biden
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dropping out and Kamala Harris presumably taking over the mantle. We're putting that topic
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to bed. We are moving forward. It's a new week and we have
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found out that the union that represents ten thousand workers at the Liquor Control Board
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of Ontario have ratified tentative agreement will end the two week strike at twelve oh
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one am tonight. We found this yesterday, big news. Their stores will
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be open tomorrow. It's a three year collect agreement and includes the protection of
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good jobs and public revenues, which is what the union's bargaining team chair said
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that they wanted. What's in it an eight percent wage increase over three years,
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the conversion of roughly one thousand casual employees to permanent part time positions,
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and no store closures are during the terms of this agreement, as well as
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a cap on the number of agency stores. They're still expanding Ready to Drink
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into convenience stores and they said we're not budgeting on that union. This is
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what we're doing. Well. We have found labor piece again with this contract.
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Tracy, were you impacted by this strike? What do you think about
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the resolution? Are you happy to see it? You know what, I
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wasn't impacted because most of the time I do support local and so it's easy
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to get local beverages around the Windsorsex County area. My husband does love a
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good Scotch, so we just stoked up. We knew it was coming,
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so we stocked up just in case. But I glad that they were able
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to get the deal that they did, because I do think the workers they
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have to have a lot of knowledge because LCBO is known for having the largest
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selection of spirits and alcohols, so it's a tough job for them to be
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able to help. So I think we do need it. But it's also
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nice to have the convenience to go somewhere else and it's like, Okay,
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I just need a six pack of beer because somebody's coming over last minute.
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I don't want to drive halfway across town to the LCBO. I can just
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pick it up here. So I think it's a good give and take for
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everybody. Yeah, I like the expansion. I don't have any issue with
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that. I like the fact that we see there's no store closures, there's
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going to be casual employees can ride over to permanent I think a lot of
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the scare that was being put out during the strike of we're going to see
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the end of the LCBO, as we know at all of these jobs are
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gonna be gone, We're going to lose two billion dollars in revenue. I
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didn't subscribe to much of that. I think that having more convenience for customers
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is a positive thing while still maintaining the social responsibility angle that the LCBO fulfills
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and drives James, though, I'm sure it impacted business owners in your community
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out into come see. I mean, we started to hear about stock starting
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to dwindle around I think day four or five, so I personally no one
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reached out to me directly from the community to raise their concerns. But with
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that this, I'd like I step in the right direction with what the Ford
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government's doing. I was happy to see that the negotiations came through in a
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relatively short time and the greater scheme of things, And with that, when
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I was like in the military, I was posted to Alberta and they're all
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alcohol that's all privatized. So with that, you had liquor stores that were
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open until two in the morning, regular liquor sale hours out there. So
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with that there was no inconvenience of having to go buy anything, whereas here
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there's been times where you want to go buy something you're driving home from work,
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lcbos closed. Now you can go to the grocery store and like anywhere
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else and not pick up what you need. So I'm happy to see that
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the strike ended in a very like a good way and we get to have
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alcohol at other stores like grocery stores. You know, I don't think we're
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going to be seeing the sales till two am at stores in Ontario. I
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think that you'll see convenience stores taking advantage of existing full sales of hours,
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which is I believe and again I could be wrong on this by about an
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hour, but nine am I believe it could be ten. But regardless through
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till eleven pm is what legal sales are now. The beer store and the
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LCBO, because of their unions, don't keep those full hours open. They
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have agreements to you know, have their hours that they set. I could
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see though, in that opportunity when the LCBO closes at nine o'clock, for
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example, if you have an extra two hours to go pick up a six
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pack of Mike's Hard lemonade at the convenience store, it really would help with
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that convenience aspect that the existing market is unable to fulfill. Irene, what's
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your takes on this one? Well, I was happy to see, obviously
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the strike coming to an end. I'm glad that the workers were strong and
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that they really were trying to address the unfortunate treatment of casual employees, especially
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over reliance on casual employees. I think it's important to let people have some
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stability in their lives and some knowledge that they're going to be able to feed
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their families, and so I'm really happy that there's the news of those permanent
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part time positions, less uncertainty for those folks. I think that some level
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of convenience is important, but I think that we also do derive a lot
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of benefits in terms of the taxes from LCBO and also the controls, and
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I'm happy to see that that's not going away. I was really concerned,
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I have to say, I was in an LCBO on the day before the
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strike, and there were long lines and everybody was very congenial. People were
24:44
so congenial that they were like starting to trade their grandparents moonshine recipes. So
24:48
what I anticipated was like a massive public health crisis if this actually went on
24:52
from people just like making some bad chemical choices back to people did not study
24:57
chemistry well enough in school, so if be doing that. So I'm glad
25:03
that there's going to be the access. But I know that one thing that
25:04
was really cool was that local distillers and local breweries and local wineries did see
25:10
that uptick in their business, and I hope that customers will stay loyal to
25:14
the people that they've discovered and the products they've discovered, and keep supporting those
25:18
local businesses. Well, we did see Copper Rose Distillery on Olett Avenue opened
25:23
up and they were doing sales right out the front door, even though they
25:26
hadn't expected to open their doors to the public yet at that point. I
25:30
had for an appearance I think last week and Dan McDonald show. I called
25:34
up wolf Ed to ask what their sales process was like, and they said,
25:37
you can only buy one bottle of whiskey at a time. The first
25:41
two days we were letting you buy as much whiskey as you wanted, but
25:44
then we had to stop that. And it makes sense because of how you
25:48
know, when you have such limited access, you know. It showed also
25:53
the precarity of just I guess how reliant we are on having them as one
25:57
distributor, but they are the most purchaser of alcohol on the planet, able
26:03
to negotiate the best prices, and then we get to derive the most benefits
26:07
out of that tracy. From the employment angle, I mean ten thousand,
26:11
excuse me, a thousand casual jobs becoming a permanent part time that's a big
26:15
deal. That's huge. It gives them a little bit of stability because there's
26:19
nothing worse than being that casual and you never know if you're going to get
26:25
called or if you're going to be on that schedule, and it's hard to
26:27
pay your bills when you don't know. So it's a I think it's great
26:32
that they are going to be permanent part time, so they're going to have
26:36
their schedules. If they need to get a second job, they're able to
26:38
do that without screwing up the one that they will now have seniority in and
26:44
maybe they'll be able to go up to full time. You know, James,
26:48
it's funny you were talking about being in the military. In Alberta last
26:51
week. Paul Sennett was on the round table and he was in the Navy,
26:53
and he talks about how in Halifax there was a liquor strike back like
26:57
twenty twenty five years ago, and how the Navy ships were the only place
27:04
for alcohol sales in the province because they were fully stocked from when they came
27:08
over, and how it was a huge party there. I just I wonder,
27:11
what like alcohol, is there alcohol distribution on base? So like how
27:17
does that work? Yeah, with my experience, it was like in the
27:19
Army and in Edmonton, So with that we never so we had a liquor
27:23
store on base, but it was private or just off base, but it
27:26
was privatized. There was no Canadian Forces liquor store or anything like that.
27:32
I don't know what the Navy used to do. I've heard stories on back
27:37
in the day when they would get to like international waters and they could sell
27:40
alcohol at like a dollar a beer. But I know with my all of
27:42
my experience with the military, like it was not like a frat party with
27:48
like booze, just getting handed like around when you were on deployment or on
27:52
like exercise. There were some rum rations, but it was mostly for fun.
27:56
But I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, I don't want to hear
28:00
about the heavy drink and a kind of thing I would be probably not the
28:03
best for troop readiness. Maybe morale, but I don't know about readiness recruitment
28:10
recruitment. Sure, there you go, absolutely. I mean, do you
28:12
have any last thoughts about this one? I mean, it's just like liquor
28:15
distributions. It's not that it's overly complicated, but I mean it's it's so
28:22
it's so wrapped up in our culture and our identity as Ontarians. I mean,
28:25
it's the LC, it's the beer store. These are the two places
28:29
that we go to. Yeah, I mean that's very much. The Mackenzie
28:34
Brothers, I think illustrate how importance this isn't our culture now. I think
28:37
it's it's really important that we see that there can be two things true at
28:42
once. We should have more convenience, we should have more opportunities for people
28:47
to purchase what they need elsewhere if they need it. But I think that
28:51
we do have this really actually very efficient system that works well, that serves
28:56
Ontarians quite well, that gives us lots of tax benefits, lots of dollars
29:00
that go into the infrastructure and other things that we need. And I'm glad
29:03
that it's not going to be shutting down. I'm glad that it's actually going
29:07
to be sticking around no store closures for some time. And again, the
29:10
better improvements in the lives of these workers, I think these are all wins.
29:15
And I really want to give the ops you people credit for taking this
29:18
stand and protecting their workers and speaking up. But also I'm glad that an
29:26
agreement has been reached relatively quickly. Yeah, as am I and I think
29:32
that we're going to see some pretty significant changes inside the lcbos with the pushing
29:36
out of these you know, ready to not they're getting rid of them.
29:40
There'll be a bit of an expansion, but I think that you're going to
29:41
see some of the some of the things closer to the ground at the LCBO,
29:45
the cheaper price things, I think you're going to see move out of
29:48
the LCBO and the LCBO become more of a craft brewery sidery distillery spirits experience
29:56
where you could walk in and they recommend you, Hey, Irene, I
30:00
think you might like this gin that's from cream or they just came out with
30:03
the botanicals. We'll hit your nose in a completely different way. Just don't
30:07
mess with my vintage as Saxon, Okay, like I would run for office
30:11
on that platform. If they started messing with that, we will keep it
30:15
there. Let's not change the vintages. Come on, people, it is
30:19
the Monday round table. Got a few minutes left. I want to just
30:22
quickly touch on the outcomes of that crowd strike outage that deployed a faulty update
30:30
to computers that were running Microsoft Windows and Microsoft three sixty five apps and services,
30:34
and wow, did it cause a lot of headaches. Last week we
30:38
saw there were delays at the border with hospital systems had some issues that were
30:44
dealt with. We saw ers had big weight logs and appointments had to be
30:48
rescheduled, and people contacted directly. The only thing that affected me I went
30:52
to the bank to cash a check around I think one o'clock, and the
30:56
teller said, if you had been here fifteen minutes earlier, you wouln't have
30:59
been able to, to which I went, well, I'm glad that i'm
31:02
here now. Thank you for that anecdote. I'll be sure to share that
31:06
on the radio come monday. Irene. Were you impacted at all by the
31:10
outage when it happened, Well, I mean, at a very trivial level.
31:14
I was at a concert that started late because the band literally was delayed
31:18
getting there on the plane, so that was unfortunate. And then coming back
31:23
to Canada from the concert, that was quite a lengthy time in the tunnel.
31:29
But I mean that's really the least of the worries. I really regret
31:33
that there were impacts on healthcare and banking systems and all of these really important
31:38
things, not just here in North America but in other parts of the world.
31:42
And I think it really speaks to how over reliant we are on certain
31:45
companies, certain very large tech companies, and you know, it should not
31:51
be the case that one glitch with one software system upgrade can just take down
31:56
all of these systems globally. Was that China really wasn't affected by this glitch
32:01
because they don't really use Microsoft products that much, So I mean I think
32:06
that that it does sort of beg the question should we, you know,
32:09
our various governments be taking a look at these monopolies and the kind of unfair
32:15
market practices that some of these companies engage into force competitors out of the system,
32:21
so that we're all relying on these things that can just crash and like
32:23
put our lives at really big disadvantages and cause all kinds of trouble. Especially
32:29
I think about those healthcare impacts. That's a very serious and dangerous thing.
32:32
This is where things get really complex. Is like I don't pretend to understand
32:37
how the IT side of things works, quite frankly, but what I can
32:39
tell you is when you see these add on effects from when something goes down
32:44
like this, I mean, I think to the Rogers outage of last year
32:46
or the year before, and debit machines didn't work across the country and some
32:52
people could get on the web, some people couldn't in this case, healthcare
32:54
workers impacted travel border logistics. I mean, it's it makes you wonder like
33:00
should the government get more involved in when it comes to, you know,
33:04
managing IT systems or would that make things worse? I ask you, counselor
33:07
as someone who's in government should we come seeking elected officials help on these issues.
33:14
So for the government taking over the roles of managing software updates, I
33:17
believe that that would create a huge burden on the government. I don't know
33:22
if we need to oversee every single software update that's happening in the country.
33:29
With that, I know certain people that just do not update any software as
33:32
they are paranoid that that'll be like at the software that either causes their device
33:37
to malfunction or then like it's a planned obsolescence. I think I know this
33:43
one guy that uses iOS six still from fifteen years ago. It works,
33:49
Yeah, with that. When I first heard about what was going on with
33:52
this, just the fact that the software impact was called CrowdStrike, I thought
33:59
that that was the name of the hattack. I thought that was like a
34:01
Y two k oh, it's oh we got hit by CrowdStrike, And I'm
34:06
like, oh, how unfortunate that they name their company that, And that's
34:08
what you're seeing the news right now, isn't that the case? I feel
34:13
like there's gonna be some rebranding reels. Yeah, crowd help maybe. So,
34:16
Tracy, were you impacted at all? Do you know anyone who was
34:20
impacted. You know what, I wasn't and I was in the hospital in
34:23
the er at the elect campus when it happened. There was no it was
34:29
seamless. There was no problems there while I was there. I was only
34:34
there for five hours. I had ultrasound, was signed in, talked to
34:37
the doctors, and was out. And that's not a bad amount of time
34:42
to be in the er and to have all your tests run. And it
34:45
just seemed everybody was going in really quickly. At least in the er,
34:52
there was no problems. I was able to go to the bank, I
34:54
was able to use my debit card and my tap at the store. So
35:00
I was lucky. I didn't it didn't affect me. Well, that's good
35:04
to hear. Well. Nine to fifty four we got a few minutes,
35:07
which means it's time for our plugged in segment where we let everyone on the
35:09
round table give a shout out for promotion or self promotion of something that's going
35:15
on in the community. Irene, let's go to you first. Well,
35:19
emancipation is coming up, so that's always exciting. We always are happy to
35:23
celebrate the end of slavery in the British Empire and here in Canada. So
35:28
July twenty seventh, there's actually a new exhibit that I have guest curated with
35:31
a couple of colleagues at Museum Windsor that you can check out and that will
35:36
be running until the fall. And check out the Black Council of Windsor Essex
35:39
website or socials for information about all of the other incredible emancipation events that are
35:45
happening August second through the fifth Emancipation Festival. I mean, such a storied
35:51
history here in Windsor, and of course, you know, commemorating and celebrating
35:54
something that is incredibly important as well. Thank you for that, Irene,
35:59
thanks for joining us. Let's go to you, James Counselor, what do
36:01
you think? First of all, Yeah, my first shout out it'll be
36:06
to my aunt Liz. She's been a listener for a long time now and
36:08
I've given her. This is the third or fourth shout out. I know
36:10
she loves hearing it, so he shout out ant Liz. Yeah. The
36:15
other one is I'm a volunteer with the Optimis Club of Sinkler Beach. We're
36:20
currently running the Cornfest this year. It'll be in Califf Park in the town
36:23
of Comsies. So come on out. It's the last weekend of August or
36:28
check out their social media for more updates. But yeah, Cornfest coming up
36:32
next month? Is the corn gonna be good this year? It's always goods
36:37
the perfect dancer. You can't go saying like, I don't know, hard
36:39
to say swinger man always good. Do you have a favorite for corn?
36:43
No? The one thing I thought of though, is like we need to
36:45
get a dentist to sponsor the like corn area and like give out our free
36:51
flaws. That's genius marketing right there. So if there's any dentists that want
36:54
to pop in, there's some sponsorships available. They also need that at rib
36:59
fastience you go, yeah, it's on tap market niche right there. Are
37:04
you a dentist? Do you own a dental profession? Are you looking for
37:07
new marketing and advertising opportunities? Have we got an option for you? Rib
37:10
and garn Fast Come on out, Tracy. What needs to be plugged in?
37:15
Well, I'm gonna plug myself first of all YQG and Bloom podcasts.
37:21
I interview for YouTube and all the podcast platforms. Everything local in the YQG
37:28
area. Whether it be small businesses, events, special people, or anybody
37:34
in general. But I do want to give a special shout out to Jail
37:37
Heritage Brewing Company. It was their seventh anniversary this weekend and we had a
37:43
huge turnout because they are the ones that put on the Amisburg Farmer's Market,
37:47
and I just want to let everybody know that if you want to be a
37:51
vendor at the Farmer's Market, make sure to contact them. It's every Saturday
37:54
from nine to one. And I did my podcast from there on Saturday and
38:00
I recorded seven and we had a huge turnout and it was great. It
38:05
was a fun party and everybody had so much fun. So make sure to
38:08
get out to Jail Heritage Brewing Company Live podcasting Farmers Market. What more could
38:14
you ask for? Sounds like a lot of fun. Welle big thank you
38:16
to Monday's roundtable to comcy counselor James Dorner, host of the YQG and Bloom
38:22
podcast, Tracy Martins and again happy birthday, thank you. And educator,
38:25
historian, writer, podcaster, activist and everything in between. Irene more Davis,
38:31
thank you so much for joining today. Thank you