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Week 12 News & Updates + Would You Rather | Fantasy Hockey Podcast · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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  Babbitt about Bow Bangor management fantasy hockey
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  podcast. Woo Woo, woo woo.
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  Pataki, who is still currently in Japan, got the feeling every
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  want you to forget him. Bangor Management is is a trio,
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  guys. It's not a duo.
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  If you're new here, we do have our third host and he is not in
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  my basement. Yeah, exactly.
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  But welcoming everybody to Bangor management, the Fantasy
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  in spirit today because he's currently on vacation in Japan.
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  So listen, we'd rather be here with you.
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  We could have gone. We decided we preferred the
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  they can speak of now. Yes, crickets, but welcome.
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  Today we are covering the Week 12 news and updates from around
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  the NHL and the famous Would You Rather Is are back again for
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  another occurrence. Before we get into it though,
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  gonna hope everybody is having a happy holidays.
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  This is gonna come out shortly right before Christmas, which is
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  really fun, special. Even though Week 12 is a tricky
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  fantasy week, content is still coming out.
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  So hopefully everybody enjoys. Hopefully everybody spends some
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  We're talking trade, we're talking starts, we're talking
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  pickups, everything, all that good stuff.
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  We even had our inaugural Bangor Management League draft where
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  rate is five stars. But with that said, let's get
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  into it. We have a lot of new to cover
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  and would you rather? Wow, that's great.
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  I didn't have to do that part alright, let's dive right into
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  some news. We had a couple of trades
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  because there was kind of like a mini trade deadline with the
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  holiday freeze. So let's get into some massive
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  ones that we had a decent marchment traded to Columbus for
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  a second and a fourth round pick.
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  He's currently playing line one power play 2.
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  I think that roster is wide open and anyone who shows any glimpse
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  of offence is going to get the opportunity.
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  So he's an interesting watchlist guy.
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  He's shown in the past he can provide bangers so I mean not
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  running to grab him but. He just had one good game played
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  almost 20 minutes a night. So listen, something to monitor.
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  But I will say though, like Columbus right now is kind of
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  like their lines are in the blender right now.
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  It feels like they have, they're splitting all their best players
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  over 3 lines. So whether that's sticks, I
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  doubt it. I feel like just trying the
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  combinations to see what works because they're going, they've
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  been in a rut. So I expect over the next week
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  or two we'll have some more stability and how it actually
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  shakes out because I don't think Sean Monahan should be the third
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  line centre and I don't think Charlie Coyle should be
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  centering Kirill Marchenko, who is the best player on this team.
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  So we'll see how that goes. But for now, I think Marchman,
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  if you're in a really deep leak, he could be worth a shot just to
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  see like he has some Bangor in him a little bit.
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  He can be a shots hits guy. And listen, if he's getting
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  deployment 20 minutes a night, you should be able to put up
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  some points as well. So something to monitor.
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  Yep, absolutely. Alright.
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  Next big trade we had Phil Donohue was traded to Montreal
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  for a second round pick. There's a good depth edition for
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  the Habs. Not that fantasy relevant
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  outside of face off when leagues though.
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  But it's a fun reunion for us have fans because last time we
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  saw Phil on the haves was our Stanley Cup finals run.
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  So only good memories and it's a big need that we need right now
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  with the defensive centre, especially if Jake Evans is out
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  for a bit. Yeah, I was going to say with
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  Jake Evans, I feel like Montreal kind of had their their hands
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  pushed a little bit into making a move like this.
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  But I'm happy to know his back like he's just he's good for the
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  culture here. I think he already has a
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  relationship with the star players on this team.
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  Like we saw him in coffee. I'll have a little had little
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  bromance in the playoff that playoff run last time.
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  So I like but for fantasy, like you said, I think he's great for
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  faceoffs, which not many leagues have ours does.
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  But besides that, he's not really good to get your shots,
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  hits or blocks. So maybe some short handed, some
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  shorthanded points exposure given here probably plays on the
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  PK, but I don't think he gets any power play exposure.
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  So. No.
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  Alright, so that's it for that mini trade deadline.
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  It was very exciting, but lucky for us, I think there's still
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  going to be more to come over the course of the season.
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  Let's move into some classic injury news.
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  Here's one that look, I never like to hope for someone to get
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  injured, but when I'm number one on the hate hater list, you know
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  it. I can't say I'm not.
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  I'm too upset. We have a JT Miller a week to
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  week with an upper body injury. Alexis Lafreniere currently
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  taking a spot on power play one. That's another situation where I
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  think they're gonna keep cycling it.
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  So Laugh could take it, Coolly could take it.
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  They have Scott Morrow at the power play.
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  Quarterback one shift on the power play, they did well in the
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  next game like David Kov got a shift that probably 1 so.
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  It's a it's a mess in New York right now.
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  So this is a big loss obviously for even though he's been pretty
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  awful this year compared to where you drafted him, he's
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  still pretty solid guy to have in bangers, especially with
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  faceoff wins. He does the shots, face off
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  wins, hits, and then he was actually kind of heating up a
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  little bit. So it's definitely a big loss to
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  your team. But yeah, that's just an IR
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  stash. And then I'm not rushing to pick
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  up Lafreniere with the deployment.
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  We saw what he did with it earlier and he kind of sucks.
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  And honestly, yeah, the team kind of sucks.
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  Like they just keep getting shut out.
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  It's it's kind of incredible. So.
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  They actually had a great game where they came back and won it
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  after being down like 4-2 in the third.
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  So that was encouraging, yeah. And then the next game they just
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  kind of like they dropped the ball after.
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  So a lot of inconsistencies, but they're pretty banged up too, so
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  they're still trying to find their stride.
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  But like, I had Panera and then I was complaining throughout the
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  week. But also he had like so many
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  shots this weekend, like a shot game.
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  He had like 2H is a six shot game in a stretch of like four
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  or five games. So I mean, he's the only guy
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  left, right? Yeah, and tricks been pretty
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  nasty too, like project is you got them for your bangers league
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  with face off too, like he's just always a stud.
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  But yeah, are you trying to buy on GT though, given the injury
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  just happened? I saw his shoulder in sling.
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  I think so. Week to.
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  Week I see it like, I mean, I was actually ask you this.
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  Do you think that like cause clearly I think it's pretty
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  clear to everyone that when he got injured in like a pre season
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  that I think he came back too soon.
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  I think he was still playing injured.
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  He just clearly has not seemed like, you know, the JT we know
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  he can be. So I wonder if the fact that he
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  got this other injury that kind of forcing him to sit out for a
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  bit, Do we think that maybe it'll also give him a chance to
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  heal from whatever was nagging him from the preseason and then
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  he could come back stronger? He's the type of guy that never
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  wants to rest. Will they take any games off?
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  He's also the captain of this team now, like whether you agree
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  with it or not, like he's the guy and he's like the vocal
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  leader. So I think for him to miss time,
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  it's like forcing him to recuperate a little bit.
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  So like you said, it actually might be a blessing in disguise.
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  It just depends how much time you misses because he's like
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  usually a shoe in for the Team USA roster.
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  So we'll see in the Olympics are in February.
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  So I don't know if that's gonna be, if he's gonna be in jeopardy
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  of missing the Olympics, But I know you do everything in his
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  power to not. Miss it.
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  So yeah, I think they they said that like he should be fine for
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  Olympics. So I think that's kind of like
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  his target. If you're looking at a date when
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  he might be coming back, it should be right before Olympics.
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  So I'm getting three to four weeks is my guess from now, like
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  probably end of January. The Olympics are so close.
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  I know it's already like the holiday season.
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  It's crazy. Time flies. 2026 in literally 2
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  weeks. Right now it's actually actually
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  insane. But yes, in terms of buying low
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  on him, I'd say first of all, if your league isn't like a bangers
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  with faceoff wins, like I'm not that interested.
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  The main thing that's interesting is yes, the bangers
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  and also the playoff schedule. We've talked about it a lot, but
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  we 21 to 23 Rangers have a great schedule and the upside is
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  there. And if the same person who
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  drafted him has held on to him this long and now this injury, I
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  could see them being so fed up with JT that maybe you can get
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  him for really cheap. So all that to say, yes I would
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  buy low on him if you can get him cheap enough.
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  But I'm not like dying to get. Him let me give you some names
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  because like if JT is on a team that's in the bottom of your
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  standings and you're near the top of your standings and you
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  can afford to just pick up an IR stash, would you trade like a
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  Dylan Gunther for him? Yes, absolutely, and this is
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  guys. This is just preface prefacing
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  that you're in a league that has hits as a category or points for
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  hits because that's where JT really thrives because he gets
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  you like shots hits and the power play in the points
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  exposure face off wins. It's even better.
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  Like in our league of record. He have all those categories and
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  Pimms and he's like a first round pick because he touches
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  all of those. So Dylan Gunther, I think you
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  can swap. I think maybe.
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  Also read that. I'm Kevin Fiala.
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  Yeah, so quick. The reason I said so quickly yes
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  to again there is because they also have a really bad playoff
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  schedule. Just putting that out there.
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  Yeah, Diphylla as well. OK.
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  And then you can do the. Names.
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  Yeah, yeah. Keeper Sherwood if you're lucky.
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  Yeah, absolutely. These are all names that are
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  like, they're good players you're happy to have on your
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  roster. But like, even if Miller comes
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  back and does what he's been doing this season with the
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  playoff schedule, I'd still rather have him than these
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  players going into the playoffs. If your league has the cast that
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  we discussed, obviously, yeah. So.
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  So now is a great time to to buy.
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  Like honestly I would try and buy them if I didn't already
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  sell. Him, I think the owners
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  committed now like he gave up McDavid for JT, like she's
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  success rides on JT unless he's able to get like good value for
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  him, I think he's gonna set him on the.
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  Low. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Alright, let's move on. Let's move on.
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  OK, A trio here of some New Jersey Devils news, starting
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  with the big one. Jack Hughes returned from injury
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  and bumped Andre Pilot from line on power play.
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  One no surprise there in the deployment.
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  Huge surprise that he came out of nowhere.
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  But also it's not a surprise because he was playing against
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  me and I magically heal my opponents players.
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  So now that was a that's a crazy kind of come out of nowhere.
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  Yeah. That's why I love buying
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  markings like injured players, you know, like they never, I
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  won't say never, but player. But yeah, certain guys are like
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  ahead of schedule, you know, like the guys were like really
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  important to their team, their gamers, they wanna be in there.
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  I don't know, it just feels like it's always such a huge win when
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  you buy low on these like injured guys, so.
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  Huge. It also depends on the injury
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  too. Like he cut his finger, sure.
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  Like if it was like a knee injury or something else, they
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  can maybe less likely that he's going to come back ahead of
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  schedule, but like a little finger injury, I'm sure he was.
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  OK, no, that's fully agree. And kind of on that same topic,
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  Team Omaha returned from his leave of absence, but he went
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  straight to power play too. Again, I think that could get
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  mixed around, but there's another one where we actually
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  mentioned I said buy low on him because this leave of absence is
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  gonna be way shorter than like it seems.
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  Yeah. And then it was so like these
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  these kind of like non injury related absences I'm starting to
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  learn last a lot shorter than people think.
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  But they still have kind of that sense of doom around them, like,
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  oh, who knows how long it's? Gonna be there's not an injury
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  and it's like off the ice type of thing.
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  So, I mean, after we saw the Daily News, like when Darlene
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  announced he's taking leave of absence to be with his wife and
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  everything, we all like obviously wasn't the best, but
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  we were like, OK, like, is he gone for the season?
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  Like, what's what's happening, You know?
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  And then it was a few weeks later, like I'm back from
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  indefinite leave. And then same thing with Timo,
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  like Josh said it on the podcast.
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  So if you guys were listening and you were able to acquire a
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  team of like Josh said guys, I know it says indefinite, but we
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  just saw what happened with Darlene.
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  Like you never know how long it's going to be as probably on
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  the shorter end. So if you can acquire him,
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  you're probably laughing right now.
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  Even though he got P2I expect him to get back some looks on PP
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  one too like it's just. Yeah, I mean, Keith, like,
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  splitting it and bumping it around or whatever.
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  And also like, his banger cats have been elite this year.
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  So you're really happy to have him in that sense.
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  And then just throwing in there for more devil's news.
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  But Arsenic Gretsch also returned from injury and went to
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  powerfully too. Are you?
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  Is this the start of the devil's bounce back?
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  I know you're a brat for suggested.
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  I mean anyone who's a he sure owner, a brat owner.
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  I think the window for these Devils guys are is closing right
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  now. If you're able to acquire he
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  sure Brad. I think the window is about to
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  slam shut with Jax used back. He already scored and he didn't
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  even shoot that much. I think he had two shots in his
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  first game back. So I expect him to expect all
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  the New Jersey Devils to kind of wrap up right now.
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  Here's a good one. Jacob Markstrom.
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  Yep, I think he's a good by little target because he's been
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  awful. He just had to actually really
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  solid game is probably his best game of the season that he
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  played. So but then Jake Allen got to
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  start right after. So OK, are they still splitting?
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  Like the guy who owns Markstrom? Maybe he's not super in tune
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  with the situation, but it's tough because now that there's
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  Jacques back, people are like, I can see people assuming that
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  Jacob Marshall just going to be back to like his usual self,
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  even though he's been awful and they're gonna completely forget
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  that. So it's kind of like a bad
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  opportunity, but. I would still.
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  Try by low if the owner still views him as low.
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  If the owner is already baking in the jacket you got dropped
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  in, don't bother. Yeah.
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  Like if you could flip like a UC saros for him I would do that.
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  Yeah. Or a Jacob Fowler that you
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  picked up and you just got to shut out and you know, like
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  people are like, Oh my God, is he just started for the Habs
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  now? Like if you can flip predicting
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  Markstrom take take that. Alright, let's move on from the
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  Devils, although there's a lot of exciting stuff happening
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  there. Zach Werenski is day-to-day with
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  a lower body injury after blocking a shot late in the
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  game. Ivan Provorov should take his
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  spot on power play one, but it could be C person.
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  I don't know. It doesn't really matter to be
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  honest because without Renski and with how Columbus has been
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  doing and the fact it's only day-to-day, I'm not rushing to
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  pick up any other replacements. They did go to get imaging done.
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  It was kind of scary. He had to like be helped off the
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  ice, but no broken bones. So he's being labeled as
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  day-to-day, which is a huge sigh of relief for Werenski owners
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  and for anyone who was hoping to pick up their replacement at,
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  uh, a bit disappointing. You guys listening to this like
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  right before Christmas, like we said, but I think the timing on
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  injuries right now is bad because given that there's a
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  gap, like teams will not, will not risk bringing these to the
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  holidays exactly. Just gonna shut them down until
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  the new year, probably. So even though you might be
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  day-to-day and he technically could play like next week, next
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  week, like say, let's say, sorry, I cannot articulate
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  anymore. They probably might shut them
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  down until January. So I would expect him to miss at
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  least a week or two. Anything less than that, I feel
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  like the cherry on top and you're you're you're happy.
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  But I would be interested in, and I think Provorov if he gets
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  it. I feel like he's had stretches
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  this year, specifically recently where he's had a little bit more
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  fantasy value than usual. So if he gets exposure to the
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  power play 1 and, you know, playing with the best players
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  there, they just got March, maybe they're a little bit
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  having a boost there. So I'd be interested.
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  I'm not rushing to pick them up. Yeah, I guess more because it's
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  like my mind is such a short term injury that like, yes, you
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  can have him as like a stream, you know, but I'm not like this
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  isn't gonna be a make or break picture.
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  I put him in the Hampus Lindholm kind of category.
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  When McAvoy went down, it's kind of similar.
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  Yeah, only difference is like Linton I felt had more staying
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  power because the entry seemed longer for Mac.
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  Yeah, but other than that, pretty much exact same.
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  Alright, Jack Eichel is out with a lower body injury.
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  Shea Theodore took his bottom power play one, but then he also
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  got injured and is now week to week.
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  So now it's Noah Hanifin on power play one who just put up a
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  three assist game with four shots and four blocks.
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  I know that. Two point me.
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  But that's, uh, but yeah. So I think that the Eichel entry
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  seems like it shouldn't be too long.
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  I think still being listed as day-to-day so.
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  It's so crazy because if it's actually an injury like they
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  initially listed him as sick illness.
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  Vegas is the worst with injury news of any team ever.
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  That's why I like there was a couple of years there where I
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  was purposely avoiding Vegas goalies because not only are
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  they bad with injuries, they're also terrible at announcing the
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  starter on time. So just like always such a
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  headache to deal with them. Like they just love their
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  secrecy. Mean remember, Mark Stone came
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  back out of nowhere for you after like being supposed to be
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  gone for months against my team. But anyways, but but yeah, I
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  know it's just they're super bad with that.
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  So they said it was illness, like you said, and they became
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  lower body injury and it became he's out a couple of games.
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  And so I still expect him back within, you know, after the
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  holidays, let's say, which isn't that long.
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  But if he's out for any longer term, then Hannah's a really
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  interesting pickup because Theodore's out week to week.
• 16:18
  So he's out of the picture for for a bit.
• 16:20
  And Hanafin can do something with that probably one spot.
• 16:23
  The thing is that when Michael comes back, he gets bumped
• 16:25
  immediately. Yep, and I'm like this might be
• 16:29
  a brief window where you can actually acquire Jack Eichel
• 16:32
  given like the he's one of the best centres in fantasy hockey.
• 16:36
  Like he's arguably a first round pick, no producer right now.
• 16:40
  So if this opens the window even a crack for you to acquire him,
• 16:43
  it's not gonna be cheap. Obviously it's not going to be a
• 16:45
  steep injury discount. But if somebody is a little bit
• 16:47
  nervous with the ambiguity, like the day-to-day just adds to your
• 16:50
  case to be able to acquire him. I think so.
• 16:52
  In our last Buy Low, Sell High episode, I listed Matt Boldy as
• 16:55
  one of my Sell High targets. I'd be trying to acquire Jack
• 16:58
  Eichel from at Baldy. I love that.
• 17:00
  And maybe you might be able to do that in a 2 for one where the
• 17:03
  two the second piece alongside Boldi is not as elite as usual
• 17:08
  necessary. Yeah, OK, Seth Jarvis is out
• 17:13
  with an upper body injury. Jackson Blake taking his spot on
• 17:15
  line one power play, one that looked like a brutal injury.
• 17:18
  I think they announced a week to week now.
• 17:19
  So that's definitely a huge loss to the Canes and to anyone who
• 17:23
  has some other team because he's a fantastic player.
• 17:25
  And Jackson Blake getting that bump.
• 17:28
  I mean, Blake is a promising young player.
• 17:31
  So this will definitely help his value.
• 17:33
  This isn't the best power play unit.
• 17:35
  So it's you have to like, you know, temper your expectations
• 17:38
  if you if you grab them, but the deployments there and he's a
• 17:42
  he's a talented player. So I'm definitely interested in
• 17:44
  picking him up and seeing what he can do.
• 17:46
  Man, I love Seth Travis. He's actually one of my favorite
• 17:48
  players. I think arguably he might be the
• 17:50
  best player on this Carolina team.
• 17:51
  Like I know Aho is the guy there, but I mean, Jarvis is
• 17:54
  just so talented and he's young too.
• 17:56
  He's younger than you would think.
• 17:57
  He's I think only 24 or something, but.
• 17:59
  Yeah, I think. So he's the type of guy that
• 18:01
  people love to play with too. So this really sucks for them.
• 18:04
  We expected Nick Elders to be maybe the guy that benefits from
• 18:06
  this, but clearly we were wrong because it's a Rod team and.
• 18:09
  I wasn't wrong. I've been down healers all year.
• 18:11
  Even when he had that hot streak, I was like, it's not
• 18:13
  gonna last guys. I wouldn't be CAN.
• 18:15
  I wouldn't have been shocked if Euler's kept the line too, but I
• 18:18
  thought yours would get PD one but they'd rather put Blake or
• 18:21
  Jordan stall there, so maybe, maybe a little.
• 18:24
  Sticky one Yeah, never ever, ever draft anyone on Rod
• 18:29
  Brindamour's team. And I will give the exception of
• 18:32
  Seth Jarvis and an exception to Slash Naho, but that's it.
• 18:37
  They just that nothing makes sense.
• 18:39
  Your guy can be putting up 1.5 points per game and Rod will
• 18:43
  bump him from power play one in line one.
• 18:45
  It just the deployment never makes sense.
• 18:46
  It's a headache all year. There's no one pushing a gun to
• 18:49
  your head saying draft this guy, you know?
• 18:51
  So like just pick the next guy who's equally good but not on
• 18:54
  Rod's team and his deployment is more secure.
• 18:56
  Yep. Alright, let's move on.
• 18:58
  Yeah, sorry. I just have to go on my run out
• 19:01
  anytime I have the chance. But Brandon Hagel is out with an
• 19:04
  upper body injury. No change to power play on
• 19:06
  because he wasn't on there. But obviously it's a massive
• 19:08
  loss for, again, the whole team and for anyone who has him
• 19:11
  because he was playing out of his mind.
• 19:12
  We had highlighted him as a cell high for awhile.
• 19:15
  So again, this is like when it's with entries, you can't like tap
• 19:18
  yourself on the back and say, yeah, we called it, you know,
• 19:20
  but if you did sell high when we told you to, then you're pretty
• 19:23
  happy about it. And I think this just honestly
• 19:27
  sucks for Hagel. Like we mentioned it in the
• 19:28
  discord that a lot of people were asking questions given in
• 19:30
  the beginning was ambiguous, was gonna miss a lot of time or not.
• 19:34
  But then listen, they're probably going down until after
• 19:37
  the holidays. So that's that's my guess.
• 19:39
  And it's it's a head injury. So you don't really wanna be
• 19:41
  risky with that. It just sucks.
• 19:43
  But at this point, if you have him, I'm not trying to sell
• 19:46
  because his value is like depreciated right now unless you
• 19:49
  can sell him for fair value, which is always fun to do.
• 19:53
  But if not, I'm just holding waiting for him to come back.
• 19:55
  He's gonna be good when he comes back.
• 19:56
  He just not on power play once. So sealing his cap there and
• 19:59
  then maybe you have an opportunity to sell again.
• 20:02
  Yeah, OK. Matt Zuccarello returned from
• 20:05
  injury and took back his spot on line one power play 1 bumping
• 20:08
  off Vladimir Tarasenko to grill out a 2 point game when he came
• 20:11
  back. That's got to be one of the best
• 20:13
  deployments you can have in the league right now on Minnesota
• 20:15
  with the Queen Hughes trade and all that.
• 20:17
  Tarasenko actually putting up decent numbers even after
• 20:20
  getting bumped off. I'm still not a believer in the
• 20:22
  long term usefulness of him, but as a streamer he's been doing
• 20:25
  really well so far. Yeah, I think.
• 20:29
  Zuccarello is one of those guys that is his roster percentage is
• 20:32
  still lower than it should be, I think, given he was hurt and
• 20:35
  missed some time and. Until he hits 40%, you're gonna
• 20:37
  hear him on our waiver episodes. Yeah.
• 20:39
  So honestly, I really like getting exposure to that
• 20:42
  Minnesota Power play, one that now has Kaprizov and Quinn
• 20:44
  Hughes on it, which is nuts. And I think Zuccarello is a
• 20:47
  super cheap, the cheapest entry point into that Power Play 1.
• 20:51
  So I'm really looking forward to, you know, if I had if he's
• 20:53
  on waivers in in one of my leagues, I'm picking him up.
• 20:56
  And Tarasenko, I think his staying power, like he's he's
• 20:59
  somewhat his fantasy relevance. Kind of like he went up because
• 21:03
  he got power play 1 exposure. And then it's kind of stayed
• 21:07
  there because even though he lost that, he ended up having
• 21:09
  some chemistry with the other Russians guys.
• 21:12
  So now his value, I feel like his lower, but maybe more
• 21:15
  sustainable in a different way. But I'm not really interested in
• 21:17
  trying at all. And you're in the deepest of
• 21:19
  leagues. No, all right, Frank Nisar is
• 21:23
  out about four weeks. Seems like Colton doc might be
• 21:27
  taking his spot on power play one, but that Chicago power play
• 21:29
  is a mess right now. And this really sucks.
• 21:32
  I mean for him and for the team, but for him, this would have
• 21:35
  been his chance. You know, with barred out he
• 21:36
  could this is chance to be A1C on a team that he's never going
• 21:39
  to be the one see on because Batard is there.
• 21:41
  So, you know, could have been a good like development
• 21:43
  experience. Good for, you know, his fantasy
• 21:45
  value good for everything. And then he gets injured right
• 21:47
  away and out for four weeks and by the time he comes back I
• 21:50
  assume Bedard gonna be close to coming back or already excel.
• 21:53
  This really sucks for Nazar. If Colton Daca is properly one.
• 21:56
  He's been a pretty solid banger this year so he could be a
• 21:58
  deeply go pick up. But I expect that offence to be
• 22:01
  so dry that. Whole team.
• 22:04
  I mean, we've already talked about so many of the Chicago
• 22:06
  guys, like not only with the loss of Bidart, everybody takes
• 22:09
  a hit. We mentioned Nazar being the
• 22:11
  only guy that might have a positive from this.
• 22:13
  Then he gets hurt for a month. So I do not want to any Chicago
• 22:17
  players right now. It's nobody's interesting to me
• 22:20
  at all. And if you still have them, they
• 22:22
  probably lost all their trade you at this point that we've,
• 22:24
  we've been saying for the last week or two that you need to
• 22:26
  trade them, trade them, trade them like the guys like
• 22:28
  Bertuzzi. If you still have them at this
• 22:30
  point, I don't think anybody's looking to acquire them.
• 22:32
  So you might just have to cut and move on.
• 22:34
  Yeah, if you're trying to sell them and you have someone who's
• 22:37
  like half interested, the strategy you should go with is
• 22:40
  be like, yeah, but wait, one Bedard gets back, he's gonna
• 22:42
  start popping off again. Now's your chance to get him for
• 22:44
  cheap, you know, So that's kind of like the argument I would
• 22:47
  make for trying to sell, but most likely no ones interested.
• 22:51
  OK, Brandon Montour is out for a month with an injury.
• 22:54
  Riker Evans taking his spot on power play 2.
• 22:56
  It's kind of a split power play, but this kind of just sucks for
• 23:00
  Seattle. He's one of their best players
• 23:01
  and sucks for Montour. I know he's been having a rough
• 23:03
  season so hopefully he'll come back strong, but not much.
• 23:08
  I'm not picking up Breaker Evans or anything.
• 23:09
  Like that, no, I think you R stash Montour, but as soon as
• 23:12
  you need a spot, like let's say you already have a say on your
• 23:15
  IR, you have Matthew could Chuck and Adam Fox and Montours hurt.
• 23:20
  You're in the situation where you either just hold a dead spot
• 23:22
  until Matthew could check comes back, which we expected to be
• 23:25
  like at this point in a few days or a week Max because he was
• 23:29
  targeting a December 28 return. And then just IR stash monitor.
• 23:32
  But if you need the spot, I'm cutting him and moving on.
• 23:34
  He's really good for shots and blocks, but it comes to the
• 23:37
  stretches as well as like some weeks he'll be awful, then some
• 23:39
  weeks he'll have like 3 shots a game and three blocks a game and
• 23:43
  you're like, what? Who is this guy when you trade
• 23:45
  him at that point? But yeah, this is just bad for
• 23:48
  Seattle. Yeah, alright, here's one that
• 23:51
  Kevin's gonna like. Tristan Jarry is out with a
• 23:54
  lower body injury. He is out week to week.
• 23:56
  Calvin Pickard should be the starter in his absence unless
• 23:59
  Connor Ingram out plays him. So neither one of them, I think,
• 24:01
  like if they play the same, I think it'll go to Picard.
• 24:03
  But if any of them plays better than the other, then that one's
• 24:07
  gonna take it. They've both played one game
• 24:09
  this past weekend. Both were kind of mid.
• 24:12
  The thing is the team is good enough that they can make up for
• 24:14
  having a mid goalie, which is like why did you go and pay all
• 24:17
  these assets to? Skinner, who's been doing that
• 24:20
  his whole career for Edmonton. Yeah, exactly right.
• 24:23
  He won't rehash that, but this is more of a like, who could
• 24:26
  have seen this coming, you know, but.
• 24:27
  If you're if you're now a major management fan because we went
• 24:30
  back and forth into the tick tock comments about that one
• 24:32
  TikTok and now you're hate watcher or something.
• 24:35
  I told you so. So so into the tick tock
• 24:38
  comments. Guys, I was, I was not down bad,
• 24:42
  but I was frustrated with with the the comments that people
• 24:45
  were leaving on that Stuart Skinner TikTok we made, which is
• 24:48
  also an Instagram and YouTube short and real and all that
• 24:51
  stuff. But yeah, no, I went to war and
• 24:55
  listen, a week in and I'm already vindicated.
• 24:57
  So listen, I love that we might know what we're talking about.
• 24:59
  Who knows? Are you going to pick up rushing
• 25:01
  to pick up either of these goalies?
• 25:03
  If I'm desperate for a goalie, then I'll pick up a card.
• 25:06
  But besides that, like he's not super impressive.
• 25:08
  And like you said, it's don't want to pick up the card and
• 25:10
  then Connor Ingram becomes the guy or pick up Connor Ingram and
• 25:14
  then big hard as the guy. It's like so ambiguous.
• 25:16
  But if one really outplays the other and you know, Jerry is
• 25:19
  still out for multiple weeks and you just picked up the start on
• 25:21
  Edmonton and you're probably getting a guy that's gonna hover
• 25:24
  around the 900 save percentage right below, but we'll probably
• 25:27
  win 2/3 of his games. Yeah, let's say exactly it.
• 25:31
  So I think it's like you said, the tough thing right now is we
• 25:32
  don't know which ones gonna get it.
• 25:33
  So you don't really want to like waste an ad or waste any fab
• 25:37
  bucks or anything like that on grabbing the wrong one.
• 25:40
  But keep an eye out. If one of them gets like two or
• 25:41
  three starts in a row, then I'm definitely interested in
• 25:44
  grabbing him until Jerry comes back.
• 25:47
  Jonathan Marchessault is day-to-day with a lower body
• 25:50
  injury. Luke Evangelista taking his spot
• 25:51
  on power play one. We had already highlighted
• 25:53
  Evangelista as an interesting pickup and now he's getting the
• 25:57
  deployment too. I don't know if you saw recently
• 25:59
  had this sick end to end goal and he's clearly got the talent.
• 26:02
  He's young, he's should be part of their future.
• 26:05
  So I like him as a pickup a lot and I wouldn't be surprised if
• 26:08
  Marcelo coming back doesn't bump him off power play one.
• 26:10
  They seem to really have lost favor with the with Marsha, so
• 26:13
  there. Just talked about him on the
• 26:15
  recent waiver episode. He's the only thing he was
• 26:18
  messing with power play 1 and this March is so injury just
• 26:21
  like literally opens the door for that.
• 26:22
  He might be the only bright spot for Nashville between now and
• 26:25
  the end of the season. I feel like the guys that are
• 26:27
  already there, you know, they've they've been maintaining value
• 26:30
  recently, like O'Reilly has been good, Stamkos has been good,
• 26:33
  Marshall has been bad, but he's now hurt.
• 26:36
  So eventually some might be the guy that you want on your roster
• 26:40
  moving forward if those guys get traded too.
• 26:41
  So I'm interested if you still available in your league and you
• 26:45
  don't have like a stack team, I would take the chance on him.
• 26:49
  Yep. Here's a fun one for me.
• 26:52
  Darcy Kemper is practicing with the goalie coach.
• 26:54
  They don't want to confirm when he's back.
• 26:56
  They said he's probably not playing in the next two games,
• 26:58
  which is tonight and tomorrow night.
• 27:00
  The fact that it's even a possibility makes me think he
• 27:02
  should be back within one to two weeks.
• 27:04
  So that's really exciting because it was kind of a scary
• 27:06
  injury and we weren't sure what the timeline would be.
• 27:08
  And obviously this would bump Anton Forsberg from the starter
• 27:11
  job again. I mean, the King's just have
• 27:14
  been so bad lately and Kemper has been like the one bright
• 27:17
  spot of their season. So obviously as a Kemper owner,
• 27:19
  I still love having him, but it would be nice if they could get
• 27:22
  some goal scoring going their way.
• 27:24
  Yeah, it's tough because Kempers and elite goalie, we talked
• 27:26
  about last season like he was one of the best value picks in
• 27:29
  fantasy. Like you were able to get him in
• 27:31
  the double digit rounds. I think I dropped him in the
• 27:33
  tenth round or 11th round last year in our fantasy drafts and
• 27:35
  he was like a top five goalie. His goals against average and
• 27:37
  his save percentage were only second to Helbock last season
• 27:40
  and Hellebuyck had an MVP year, so he's really elite when it
• 27:44
  comes to that. LA has a great defensive system
• 27:46
  which really helps you succeed, but they just don't score many
• 27:49
  goals. So you're not really not on a
• 27:51
  juggernaut team because they're not always get the wins even if
• 27:53
  you're performing like a like a crazy person.
• 27:55
  So. Yeah, but I still like him.
• 27:57
  Persuading, I mean, you still amazing to own, but it's been a
• 28:00
  bit frustrating. Like he'll put up like a classic
• 28:01
  Kemper game this year is two goals against like .92 save
• 28:04
  percentage and then the loss. Yeah.
• 28:07
  And those like 21. So.
• 28:10
  So yeah, I know, super exciting for all camper owners.
• 28:12
  We dodged a bullet there. Lastly, Leo Carlson is
• 28:15
  day-to-day with an injury. Michael Granlund is taking his
• 28:18
  spot on line one power play 1. I don't expect this to be
• 28:20
  anything near long term, very day-to-day, but Grantland has
• 28:23
  been showing some flashes of being roster worthy, so I'm
• 28:27
  definitely taking a look at that.
• 28:28
  I would pick him up while Carlson's out and then you might
• 28:30
  just end up holding on to him. Yeah, I mean, I was people were
• 28:33
  asking questions if we were interested in Greenland in the
• 28:35
  recent past and I was definitely pushing back on that being like,
• 28:39
  I'm not really interested. Like he's he has some good
• 28:42
  games, but I don't think it's sustainable.
• 28:44
  And then this injury just like blows that the door wide open.
• 28:47
  Like he's he's almost a must roster guy at this point right
• 28:50
  now given like how much ice time he's going to get.
• 28:52
  And he has good quality games in him too.
• 28:54
  Like do I think is the best player in the world?
• 28:55
  No, but you can't and knocked the opportunity.
• 28:57
  So Luke Carlson hopefully is not long term, like he's been one of
• 29:01
  the biggest bright spots this season.
• 29:03
  Hopefully it's just day-to-day. Maybe they hold him out until
• 29:06
  the new year. That's a tough.
• 29:06
  It's like so ambiguous. It's like he might not have to
• 29:09
  be held out, but then they might do it anyways just for the extra
• 29:11
  rest. That's it.
• 29:12
  They're like, oh, we can sit in for like 2 games and that buys
• 29:15
  them like 2 weeks of rest. So it's oftentimes they just do
• 29:18
  that. If grandma's available, I'm a
• 29:21
  lot of those fringe roster guys or guys you picked up for
• 29:23
  streaming, like I would cut them for grounding.
• 29:26
  Yeah, All right, let's get into Kevin's famous, would you
• 29:30
  Rathers? Hopefully you did not peak.
• 29:32
  I never have, never will. But the OK, so the would you
• 29:37
  rather segment is the best part of the Bangor management
• 29:41
  podcast. I cooked these up.
• 29:43
  I pick 5 would you rathers? I always try to choose one
• 29:46
  centre and left wing, right wing, defenseman, goalie, and I
• 29:49
  try to split the line. Usually we're 3.
• 29:51
  So I try to split Jakey and Josh on separate lines and make them
• 29:54
  choose each different guy. But today we'll see if Josh and
• 29:58
  I can split and we'll just discuss these players and it's
• 30:01
  just a great conversation. So starting, I'm trying to pick
• 30:04
  some high guys, trying to pick some low guys and some hot topic
• 30:07
  kind of guys. So nice, let's see how this
• 30:09
  goes. But starting off hot, this is
• 30:12
  spicy. Would you rather rest of season?
• 30:15
  This is kind of like putting a little asterisk on it because
• 30:18
  I'm calling this the centre position.
• 30:20
  But would you rather Jack Hughes or Maclin celebrity rest of
• 30:23
  season? Oh my God, that's a really?
• 30:25
  These are studs. Guys.
• 30:27
  These are studs. Jackie just came back.
• 30:29
  We know he's a high volume shooter.
• 30:31
  He's one of the best players in the league when healthy.
• 30:35
  That's a real celebrity. Been one of the best players
• 30:37
  this season. Let me take a quick look but at
• 30:40
  the stats. But this is real.
• 30:42
  Oh my God. It's it's actually really really
• 30:46
  close. I want to use the F word there
• 30:47
  but did not. Yeah, OK, so let's try and think
• 30:50
  of it category by category shots.
• 30:52
  I'm giving the edge to Jack Hughes, but it's not like a game
• 30:55
  breaker. It's like let's say celebrates a
• 30:57
  3.63.7 and he will be like a four.
• 31:00
  So but give him the edge there. Face off wins.
• 31:02
  I'll give the edge to hues because of his dual eligibility.
• 31:05
  So even though he gets fewer, the fact he gets them from a
• 31:07
  winger position, he's not great at them.
• 31:09
  But obviously a lot of leagues don't count that.
• 31:11
  And then hits and blocks. Neither of them are relevant at
• 31:13
  shorties, neither relevant at power play.
• 31:16
  Celebrating is at .4 over the past month.
• 31:18
  And .4 is kind of where I would expect us to be as well.
• 31:20
  So if I had to give the edge to one, I would give the edge to
• 31:23
  Hughes because I trust the New Jersey power play more than San
• 31:25
  Jose. So let's give him the edge
• 31:27
  there. Then overall points, that one's
• 31:31
  going to be close. I think I have to lean Hughes
• 31:34
  just because it seems like every category I'm giving him like the
• 31:36
  slight edge, but it's super, super, super close.
• 31:39
  Yeah, I think there's this playoff, playoff schedule come
• 31:43
  into. Play in the.
• 31:44
  Playoffs, yeah, I think and I think we've just seen Jacques
• 31:48
  doing for so long and how elite he is.
• 31:51
  Does the injury squishiness, quote UN quote come into play
• 31:54
  for you? Is that like a deal breaker?
• 31:55
  Would that make you choose celebrating just because of
• 31:57
  Jacques has dinner every night and that's always an injury
• 32:00
  risk? I mean, that's really fair.
• 32:04
  I do think actually like 1 aspect that's kind of like a big
• 32:07
  advantage for Hughes is that position eligibility.
• 32:10
  Like it's eligibility because like a lot of leagues you see
• 32:12
  like every time we talk our waiver episode, right, we're
• 32:15
  saying how some of these like pure seems like it's crazy.
• 32:17
  They're not owned more into because they're C is, right.
• 32:19
  So just having hues and being able to slot him into like a
• 32:21
  winger position and then being able to grab one like the
• 32:24
  replacement value, etc, I think is higher.
• 32:26
  So I think that that outdoes any squishiness value.
• 32:30
  And to me, I mean, I'm also going to.
• 32:32
  You shouldn't really split the difference here, but I think it
• 32:34
  was worth the conversation. Pretty close.
• 32:36
  No, that's super close. I think also another thing
• 32:38
  that's in the huge column is that the players that is playing
• 32:41
  with like he's playing with Jasper, Brad, Nico, Hischier,
• 32:43
  Timo Meyer and then whichever defensive ends up on power play
• 32:47
  one like he has some star quality next to him, which
• 32:50
  always means I feel like it gives him the edge in terms of
• 32:52
  like potential points like somebody else can make a play.
• 32:54
  He can get a secondary assist on that, whereas celebrity, like
• 32:57
  he's an insane player himself, but he's not playing with
• 33:01
  anybody close to any of those caliber players so.
• 33:03
  Well, John Klingberg. And I love my boy William
• 33:08
  Ecklin, but he's not there yet, so.
• 33:09
  Yeah, no, I fully agree. So yeah, gotta go Hughes, but
• 33:13
  it's a it's surprisingly close. If Jake was here he would
• 33:15
  definitely pick Macklin celebrity because he has
• 33:17
  celebrity on his fantasy team so.
• 33:19
  I'll call that flooding this place.
• 33:20
  Yeah, I'll give it to you. Alright, this next one might be
• 33:23
  hot, it might be not. So I'm actually curious where
• 33:25
  you land, but that was kind of like a doctors use rhyme a
• 33:29
  little bit. Yeah, talking defensemen here.
• 33:32
  Everybody's favorite recent pickup?
• 33:34
  Darren Radish or Shane Foster spare rest of season.
• 33:39
  Wow. OK, that's a, that's a really
• 33:42
  good one. That's.
• 33:44
  Gospel still one of the top defensemen point earners this
• 33:47
  season, which I feel like he's going under the radar.
• 33:49
  He's just the type of guy that nobody gives him credit when
• 33:52
  he's when he deserves it. Darren Raddysh has been sick for
• 33:54
  Tampa, but he's got the looming Victor Hedman that we don't
• 33:57
  think he gets power play 1 back. But listen, it's definitely a
• 34:00
  question. OK, I think I have, I have my
• 34:04
  decision and it might be shocking, but I like this
• 34:08
  because you picked 2 guys that I'm both think are
• 34:11
  overperforming. Yeah, they what they should be
• 34:13
  doing. So it's like they're very kind
• 34:14
  of similar in that sense. Like I would be selling high if
• 34:17
  I had either of them, but I'm actually gonna go with Radish
• 34:20
  over there. And I know, I know it's like
• 34:22
  might seem crazy, but I think they're very similar archetype
• 34:25
  of player. I think if I had to give the
• 34:26
  edge to one of them in terms of back cats, I would go to Radish
• 34:29
  over Agosto spare and then in terms of pure points, I think
• 34:32
  probably godparents up with more.
• 34:34
  I think the biggest difference is the power play.
• 34:36
  I think that radish is on one of the best power plays in the
• 34:38
  league in Tampa and Carolina is year after year just has an
• 34:41
  awful tower place. So that's a big difference.
• 34:43
  And then obviously you have to factor in the whole headman
• 34:45
  question to me. I really I really think gratis
• 34:48
  just as powerfully one rest of the year.
• 34:49
  So I'm I'm valuing him as that. I kind of temp, I tampered
• 34:54
  sizzle. What am I trying to say?
• 34:56
  Like a slow down. OK.
• 34:58
  Yeah, slow down on the radish type because in the back of my
• 35:02
  mind I'm like, guys, it's still Victor Hedman and we've seen him
• 35:05
  before. Like if what he wants, he gets.
• 35:08
  I feel like there's no world where he comes back and it's
• 35:10
  just like, I wanna be power play one of the coaches.
• 35:11
  No, says no. So I just feel like even if
• 35:14
  Radish is over performing or doing well, in the back of my
• 35:18
  mind, Hedman comes back, he's healthy, finally healthy and not
• 35:22
  doesn't have any nagging injury. And it's just like, well, I'm
• 35:25
  the power play one guy and then that's it, you know?
• 35:28
  And then Radish loses all his value if he gets bumped off.
• 35:31
  Whereas I'm not worried about Ghosts not being the quarterback
• 35:33
  for the foreseeable future unless they trade for somebody.
• 35:36
  Yeah, so that's completely true. Is that Ghost has the safer
• 35:39
  floor for sure because Radish could, if they've had me, comes
• 35:42
  back and bumps him all of a sudden, he's literally a drop,
• 35:44
  whereas Ghost is going to secure that and be a hold all season.
• 35:47
  But the upside, right, it's a lot higher.
• 35:49
  So it really comes down to do you believe that had been coming
• 35:52
  back is gonna bump Radish off Power Play 1?
• 35:54
  And I think Radish is going to keep it.
• 35:56
  But I wouldn't fall to you for believing the other one, because
• 35:59
  at the end of the day it is Victor Hedman and it makes no
• 36:01
  sense that this happened in the first place.
• 36:02
  But if we could, if we could categorize it like this, like
• 36:06
  Jimmy Radish for like the next month and then like make the
• 36:08
  swap to ghost Gossip spare. That's kind of like how I view
• 36:11
  it. But also like, I'd rather, it's
• 36:13
  almost like if I had to pick one, I'm stuck with the rest of
• 36:16
  the season, give me gossip spare.
• 36:17
  But if I had one of my fantasy team, I'd like to have Radish
• 36:20
  because then I could have the potential like to sell him for
• 36:22
  somebody else. You know, like, yeah, he does
• 36:24
  have, he's got more value in the immediate future.
• 36:26
  If you're able to capitalize on that and sell him for somebody
• 36:28
  that like has more staying power than you probably end up in a
• 36:31
  better situation. So.
• 36:32
  Yeah, in my mind, they're both sell highs, so yeah, yeah.
• 36:36
  All right, going to #3 we're talking right wingers, and this
• 36:42
  feels like a hot topic in itself.
• 36:44
  I've got a lot of questions about both of these guys, so
• 36:46
  hopefully you've been seeing the same thing, but.
• 36:48
  We're your volume is a bit a bit low?
• 36:51
  My volume is a bit low. Hello, is that better?
• 36:56
  It's still a bit low. OK, well I did not change
• 36:59
  anything so. It had done it a bit at the
• 37:02
  beginning of it had gone like load, but then it bounced right
• 37:04
  back to high and then it was high the whole time, but now
• 37:06
  it's a bit low like. Is it like you can't hear me
• 37:08
  properly like? It's just like quiet.
• 37:12
  I mean, I could just like, yeah, I don't know why that's weird.
• 37:18
  Like I'm getting a lot of like static on your end and and then
• 37:21
  it's a bit quiet. Yeah, I hear you.
• 37:22
  Hold on one second. Hmm, it just changed.
• 37:27
  Yeah, like I say, I had done that like briefly at the
• 37:31
  beginning, but it was like super short and came back to being
• 37:33
  good. So then no, I didn't say
• 37:35
  anything. That's weird.
• 37:36
  OK, well, I'm just gonna keep going and then I'll place in the
• 37:38
  editing. But can you hear me properly?
• 37:41
  Yeah, I can hear you. I just have to ignore the
• 37:43
  static, but that's fine. I have no idea what happened.
• 37:46
  Yeah, it's all good. Alright, get back to it.
• 37:48
  You're saying the right wingers? We're talking about right
• 37:51
  wingers. Both of these guys were hot
• 37:53
  topics in themselves, it feels like.
• 37:55
  But I wanna discuss Troy Terry versus Alex Tuck.
• 38:00
  Wow, that's a really good one. So I, I like that a lot.
• 38:06
  OK, well, immediately I can you know, I know what they're both
• 38:09
  their strengths are right. You're looking at back cats is
• 38:12
  100% Alex Tuck. He's gonna be better at I mean
• 38:15
  like the the shots could be similar cause there is a decent
• 38:18
  shooter, but hits and blocks and Pimms, it's easily Alex Tuck.
• 38:23
  And then I know Alex has been putting up the points.
• 38:25
  I don't trust it because he doesn't have that play on
• 38:27
  deployment and I don't think he's gonna get it.
• 38:29
  I think Terry's gonna have more points and Terry gets
• 38:31
  shorthanded points this year, which is pretty, pretty huge and
• 38:33
  leaks that count that. So all that together, I'm
• 38:37
  actually taking Troy Terry over Alex Tuck, but I could see Talk
• 38:41
  having more trade value right now.
• 38:42
  I think that's a great sell high and uh yeah, that's kind of how
• 38:45
  I see it. I really like Troy Terry.
• 38:47
  I feel like. Do you hear me right now?
• 38:50
  Yeah. OK, perfect.
• 38:51
  I really love Troy Terry because it feels like his deployment is
• 38:55
  set and he's playing with good quality players and he's one of
• 38:58
  those guys that is always I feel like the name value doesn't
• 39:02
  match with actual production and Alex Tucker feel like it's the
• 39:05
  opposite. I feel like his name value
• 39:06
  carries him more than his actual production and his deployment
• 39:09
  just doesn't match the production that he has like he's
• 39:10
  been alive for a long time. So I'm leaning, I think, Troy
• 39:16
  Cherry in any league that does not have shorthanded points.
• 39:21
  You'd prefer you think Terry's better than Tucker shorties.
• 39:24
  I know, but last year Tuck was way better.
• 39:27
  So I'm like giving him the the the his historical like value of
• 39:31
  like being good at those. Yeah, but Terry is better this
• 39:34
  year. So I would say just like
• 39:36
  regardless, I would go Terry overtime.
• 39:38
  Also and I've had a stretch where they got like 5 shorties
• 39:40
  and like 3 games and I. Feel like yeah.
• 39:42
  Bring their value for a. Long time, that's true.
• 39:43
  That's true. But him and Leo Carlson on
• 39:45
  Shorthanded are pretty nice together.
• 39:47
  It's really close. I think I'm going try terribly
• 39:49
  like. Overall nice.
• 39:52
  All right, now we're gonna talk left wingers.
• 39:55
  OK, so are two guys that you know, one starting to get hot
• 39:58
  again and one is also starting to get hot?
• 40:00
  Again so. I wanted to discuss Pavel
• 40:04
  Dorothea V play GOAT versus Zach Hyman of the Edmonton Oilers.
• 40:11
  I still gotta go Hyman on this one.
• 40:13
  I even though, like I think that Dora Phev can reach Hyman like
• 40:17
  levels, but Hyman is already Hyman like so I think it could
• 40:23
  end the season and it ends up being a toss up, but I'd rather
• 40:26
  have like the safer bet. Like we just saw.
• 40:28
  I mean, you can say for both, right, But like we just saw
• 40:30
  Dorff be awful for like a month and a half to two months, But
• 40:34
  obviously we saw human be awful for an entire year last year.
• 40:36
  So so it goes. It goes both ways, but I just
• 40:38
  feel a lot safer. Well, McDavid and Draisaitl are
• 40:41
  doing is just absurd. And as good as the Vegas power
• 40:44
  play is, especially Jack Michaels gonna come back and
• 40:46
  they'll have the whole gang back together.
• 40:48
  It's just it's it's too good of a position, that dimension.
• 40:53
  I just, I can't bet against anyone on that Edmonton power
• 40:55
  play not getting more power play points.
• 40:58
  Like McDavid is averaging a full power play point per game.
• 41:01
  I know two other guys are getting in on no for sure, but I
• 41:04
  mean, that's over the past month.
• 41:06
  That's a pretty long period of time, like obviously.
• 41:08
  Though and at the end of averaging out at like .4 point
• 41:11
  45. And the admin is not the guy
• 41:13
  that's gonna be averaging .45 either.
• 41:15
  No hymen I could see getting like .35 and or if I could see
• 41:18
  getting like .3. Like it's not gonna be like that
• 41:21
  different. I'm just I feel like a lot safer
• 41:22
  in hymen shots. I would give Dorsey of the edge
• 41:25
  and then hits I would give him in the edge.
• 41:28
  I I only know hymen as well just because I think the hits
• 41:31
  definitely adds to his. You know, no player archetype
• 41:35
  and I do think the situation is safer.
• 41:37
  Like you said. We just saw the repair get
• 41:39
  bumped down to line 3 and be awful for over a month and when
• 41:43
  it's clicking, he's clicking like he's one of the best goal
• 41:45
  scorers in the league. It feels like he can score from
• 41:47
  anywhere in his shot is nasty. Specifically on the power play.
• 41:50
  He's a trigger man there. So I'm not worried about the
• 41:53
  power play deployment, but it's 55 deployment is definitely
• 41:56
  subject to moving depending on how the team is going and who's
• 41:59
  helping, who's not. So I think Hyman has a safe
• 42:01
  floor with already being somewhat close in value already.
• 42:04
  So yeah, I think I go Hyman. Yeah, All right, let's take us
• 42:09
  home with this goalie. Alright, discussing goalies I I
• 42:13
  thought this would be fun because this is arguably the two
• 42:16
  best goalie rooms in the league, but would you rather yes per
• 42:20
  Walstead or. Scott Wedgewood.
• 42:23
  The bone. Bees.
• 42:25
  Yeah, that's unreal. That's a really tough we saw, I
• 42:30
  think. 4 shutouts in six games and he's yeah, but he's playing
• 42:34
  less right now. It's like Gus is playing just as
• 42:36
  good and running with the job. It feels like that was already
• 42:39
  his to begin with. Scott Yeah.
• 42:41
  Carried the team, had the the locker room in the palm of his
• 42:45
  hand, then got her. Blackwood came back, started
• 42:48
  playing well again. They were like alternating
• 42:50
  shutouts as well. So where?
• 42:53
  Where do you see the situation? I've got to go with Wedgwood on
• 42:58
  this one and the main reason is first of all, Walstead is
• 43:02
  starting every 3rd game now instead of going back and forth
• 43:05
  and I don't see any situation barring injury where Walstead
• 43:09
  gets more than half the starts. In terms of Wedgwood and
• 43:12
  Blackwood, I think that Blackwood is way more squishy,
• 43:17
  so I would not be shocked in the slightest if he gets injured
• 43:20
  again at some point this year, in which case Wedgewood becomes
• 43:22
  the starter. Obviously you can say it goes
• 43:23
  both ways right? Where like Wedgwood is also
• 43:25
  squishier than Walstead, so so you can see it that way, but I
• 43:29
  just think that Wedgewood has a clear shot at getting more
• 43:32
  starts than Walstead and I think the quality is going to be
• 43:34
  comparable. Yeah, I think it really comes
• 43:37
  down to who you think starts more games rest of season.
• 43:40
  Yeah. And you gotta give the edge to
• 43:42
  Wedgewood after everything we've seen this season and how they're
• 43:45
  currently playing and, you know, the goal you rotation that
• 43:47
  they've had. I think Wedgwood is safer to get
• 43:50
  more games. But also whoever gets injured in
• 43:53
  front of them, the other guy becomes a league winner.
• 43:55
  Like if Gus gets injured while starting everything, he's
• 43:58
  insane. If Blackwood gets hurt,
• 43:59
  Wedgewood, we saw what he can do already.
• 44:01
  Like in the first two months of the season he was the best goal
• 44:03
  in fantasy so. Yeah, but if I had to bet which
• 44:06
  one get injured, it's more likely to be Blackwood.
• 44:09
  Yeah, so, but you can't, you can't, you don't bank your
• 44:13
  fantasy championship on potentially who's getting hurt.
• 44:16
  So what do you think is giving you better quality in the near
• 44:20
  future? I think it's very similar.
• 44:24
  I don't you're gonna be unhappy with either, but I will give the
• 44:26
  edge to wall set on that and just well, Minnesota is doing
• 44:29
  defensively as well as offensively.
• 44:30
  It's just unreal. Like Colorado, not that they're
• 44:32
  bad defensively either, but they very much are just like we can
• 44:35
  outscore anything if we need to, you know, because we're that
• 44:37
  good. Whereas with Minnesota, it just
• 44:39
  seems like every game like they're letting in like Max two
• 44:42
  goals, but mostly just shut outs in one goal games.
• 44:44
  So it's so I'll give quality to Walstead, but I'll give quantity
• 44:47
  to Wedgewood. And I think the quantity
• 44:49
  difference is bigger than the quality difference.
• 44:51
  I'm on the same page so listen did not really split the
• 44:54
  difference on any of these between.
• 44:55
  The two of those are all really good ones.
• 44:56
  I thought they were all super close and worth having the
• 44:59
  conversation and hopefully everybody was able to gather
• 45:02
  some extra insight on these guys.
• 45:03
  And if you're on your rosters, maybe you have a better idea of
• 45:05
  how to value them and maybe what you can do with them.
• 45:07
  And if you don't have these guys on your roster, then maybe you
• 45:09
  can make a swap. Yeah.
• 45:11
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• 45:15
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• 45:18
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