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Are You an Autism Caregiver? Why Your Brain Health is at Risk | 34-Min Essentials · Biohacking Autism with Nadia Elkhatib.

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Welcome back to Biohacking Autism,
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the show about real solutions for people with autism and the ones who love them.
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I'm Nadia Elkhatib. This episode is deeply personal for me because
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I recently lost my father to Alzheimer's disease.
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His sister has Alzheimer's, and his brother is beginning to show symptoms.
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I was tested. I don't carry the APOE4 risk variant that most strongly associated
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with late onset Alzheimer's.
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But when you have that much neurodegenerative disease in one family,
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you start thinking very seriously about what is genetic,
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what's not, what you can actually influence over the next 20 or 30 years.
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At the same time, I've spent more than 20 years thinking about my son Jimmy,
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21 with autism, about his brain.
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inflammation became part of the clinical conversation around his brain health.
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Jimmy has Graves disease and MCAS.
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I have Hashimoto's. And in my recent conversation with Dr.
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Debbie Hamilton, we talked about MCAS anxiety and brain inflammation.
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So I keep coming back to a larger question.
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Are chronic stress, autoimmunity,
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gut and immune dysfunction, neuroinflammation,
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neurodevelopment, and neurodegeneration completely separate stories?
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Or are these biological threads worth?
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Understanding across all of them.
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That is why I wanted today's guest here.
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Tom O'Bryan, DC, C C N D A C B N C I F
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is an internationally recognized functional medicine educator.
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He's a speaker, author, whose work focuses on food sensitivities,
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autoimmune disease, gut health,
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inflammation, and brain health.
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He is the founder of TheDr.com.
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Creator of the Gluten Summit and the Certified Gluten-Free Practitioner Program.
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He is the author of the Autoimmune Fix and You Can Fix Your Brain.
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His recent work has included LPS and endotoxin burden,
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neuroinflammation, and the ways dietary,
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environmental exposure may affect the brain and immune system.
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Tom, welcome to Biohacking Autism.
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Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be with you.
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Thank you. Well, I would love to start with the word parents use every day.
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Let's start there because burnout,
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quote unquote, can sound ~ psychological when the body may just be carrying years
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of biology. When people say, I'm burnt out,
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what's actually happening biologically that we can measure beyond simply feeling
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just exhausted?
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Goodness, that is a five-minute answer.
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~ what
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Let's do it.
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is happening? So let's go for it.
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What happens when you take a nerve that's designed because what Selye showed
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us is that the parasympathetic nerves are designed to run 95.
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To ninety seven percent of the time.
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You can't fight saber-toothed tigers every day.
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And the sympathetic
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You shouldn't.
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nerves are designed to run 3 to 5% of the time.
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So, what happens to a nerve designed to run 3 to
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5% of the time, and it's running 99.9% of the time?
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What happens to the wire?
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It gets completely yeah eroded,
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Burnt out. Burnt out.
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basically. Yeah, yeah.
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So many people say in their own language,
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I feel burnt out. You are burnt out.
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You are burnt out. Selye showed
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us our birthright
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is parasympathetic dominance with occasional
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forays into sympathetic dominance.
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But as you live your life in sympathetic dominance,
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you eventually develop sympathetic fatigue.
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Can't quite run the system the same way.
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Then it becomes sympathetic exhaustion.
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Then it becomes sympathetic depletion.
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And when you are in the state of sympathetic depletion,
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that is when degenerative diseases begin.
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You don't get a degenerative disease,
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whether it's diabetes or cardiovascular disease or cognitive decline
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or autoimmune diseases. You don't get a degenerative disease until you
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are in a state of sympathetic depletion.
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Doesn't happen.
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Selye also showed us that the glands that handle the stress of life,
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the adrenal glands, they're about the size of a walnut and they
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sit on top of the kidneys. They're the glands that have to respond immediately,
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producing 11 different hormones.
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Well, they're the size of a walnut.
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Selye showed that healthy young men.
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Who unfortunately died of some trauma,
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their adrenal glands are the size of a walnut.
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The same age young men who unfortunately died of disease,
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their adrenal glands are the size of a peanut.
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Mm.
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And you just look at the autopsies and you see it.
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That's sympathetic depletion.
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The adrenal glands are incapable of responding to the stress of life.
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Now you get disease.
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So when you ask about that, you know,
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that that's a five minute answer,
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but now everyone will
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It's wonderful.
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understand, wow, this is a lifelong thing that's been developing.
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Wow. So how quickly do you think you can rebuild your adrenal glands
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to handle the stress of your life?
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Well, I'm taking these vitamins in two weeks,
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I don't feel better yet.
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How do you rebuild adrenal glands that are the size of a peanut so that they develop
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into glands the size of a walnut?
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Yes, you can. You can.
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Well, can you? Is it even possible?
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Okay. Okay. Mm-hmm.
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It's but the way you do it,
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one cell at a time. That's the only way you could
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Okay.
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do it. Which means you have to modify
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the lifestyle that's created the current problem.
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To stop fighting saber toothed tigers every day or have
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and care caretakers of Alzheimer's patients,
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caretakers of autism patients.
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You can't stop. They need you.
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When you are in sympathetic dominance,
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which is necessary when you're a caretaker because of the stress you're under,
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by definition,
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it's non-negotiable. It's designed to save your life.
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The stress that you're experiencing,
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your response to that stress is a life saving mechanism.
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It's not a conscious choice. And our term for it is whipping
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the dying horse. You know, in the cowboy movies,
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when you see the cowboy on the stagecoach and the robbers are chasing him,
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firing their six guns, yeah, and he's whipping this dying horse.
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That's where most caretakers are right now.
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Right? Unfortunately,
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Yeah. Yeah. Yes, absolutely.
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I mean,
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let's call a spade a spade.
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You know, I mean, that's what people are having to deal with.
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So the little things you do can make
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a huge difference accumulatively over the time.
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Every time I sign a one of my books at book signings,
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it's always the same. I ask them what's their name?
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And I write their name. And then I write,
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base hits, win the ball game. Tom O'Bryan.
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Wow. Yeah. A little things.
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It's the little things you do accumulatively
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I
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like
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that you look back on three months later and say,
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Well, I'm not having that same dot dot dot symptom that I was having.
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I I don't feel great, I'm burnt out,
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I'm really tired, but I'm not having that symptom anymore.
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~ So you're getting a little stronger.
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You know, you're you're you're supporting your body with all the little things that
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accumulatively can help.
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Reduce the pull on your chain.
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You pull at a chain, it always breaks at the weakest link.
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It's at one end, the middle, the other end.
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It's your heart, your brain, your liver,
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your kidneys. Pull on the chain,
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that's where the link's gonna break.
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That's the disease you get,
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the weak link in the chain. But the pull
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Exactly.
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on the chain is inflammation. It's always inflammation.
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inflammation.
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So
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So the little
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things you do to reduce the inflammation
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in your body has a accumulative profound impact.
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So that that's great because that brings me,
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yes, to to inflammation.
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So
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What's the difference between systemic inflammation and neuro inflammation?
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Is it the same thing or is it two different things?
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Very good question. No one's ever asked that question like that.
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That's a very good question. Chronic low-grade systemic
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inflammation is traveling through your bloodstream all the time.
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All the time.
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It causes a ~ it's called a breach
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of the blood-brain barrier, which means leaky brain.
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If you've heard of leaky gut, you get a leaky brain.
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When you get a leaky brain, now these molecules
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get into the brain from the bloodstream.
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They may be okay in the bloodstream,
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not a problem, or they may be not okay in the bloodstream,
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but they get through the leaky brain now into the brain tissue.
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Now you activate the immune system of the brain.
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We have four different immune systems in our body:
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the gut, the bloodstream, the liver,
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and the brain. And the one in the gut is like
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the ~ sheriff in town.
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You know, he's got a couple of six-shooters,
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walk around the town, keeps the peace.
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The one in the bloodstream is the marshal that covers a bigger area,
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a couple towns and countryside.
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And they're called antibodies,
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and they are ~ special forces with high-powered laser rifles.
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But the one in the brain called the glial cells,
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they've got bazookas. If something gets into
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the brain through a breach of the blood brain barrier,
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I call it B4. Breach of the blood brain barrier,
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B4, capital B number four.
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if any molecule gets in there that's not supposed to be there,
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the glial cells fire their bazookas immediately to kill it.
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The immune system of the body's number one priority is to protect the brain.
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That's number one. And so the glial cells,
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if they're called upon, they're normally dormant.
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They don't do anything. But when they're called upon,
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they don't mess around.
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But because we're eating the wrong kinds of foods,
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we're drinking the wrong beverages,
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we've got a bad microbiome in our gut from too many years of the wrong foods,
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creating leaky gut, all these molecules in the blood that get
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in the bloodstream that are not supposed to be there activate the immune system
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to create inflammation in your bloodstream.
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They're 24-7, that's why we take PectaSol.
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It's there 24-7. And now that inflammation in the bloodstream causes a breach
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of the blood-brain barrier, 24-7.
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Now molecules are getting into the brain that shouldn't get into the brain,
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24-7, activating the glial cells,
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trying to protect you. ~ Like the Fourth of July fireworks.
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Those are the explosions going on in your brain trying to protect you.
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From the garbage that got into the brain that's not supposed to be there.
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That's what we're
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Wow.
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up against. That's why Alzheimer's is going through the roof.
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Because people are more toxic than
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Yeah, it is. It's becoming in a pandemic.
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ever.
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Yeah. Wow. Okay. And again,
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for everybody listening, w we're starting with the problem,
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we'll get to the solution. So we're not gonna stay here for a long time,
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but it's very important to understand intellectually with your brain what
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is happening because that's gonna help you a lot when working on protocols
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to solve it and to change your lifestyle.
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That's why we're spending time here.
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Okay.
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Let me let me talk
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about the answer that you're gonna ask me at the end of the show.
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So, what's the one thing that everybody can do?
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That's often the question. So,
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here's the one thing you can do.
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In my book, You Can Fix Your Brain,
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which was number one in seven categories on Amazon for brain function:
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seizures, strokes, autism, Alzheimer's,
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seven different categories.
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~ the subtitle of the book is because I argued with Rodale Press for
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two weeks on the title. They didn't like the title at all.
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They didn't
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I said, I don't care. This is my book.
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I I don't care. Well, we're not going okay,
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then don't. We'll we'll go somewhere else.
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Well, okay, wait, let's talk. So the subtitle of
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the book is just one hour a week to the best memory,
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productivity, and sleep you've ever had.
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And that is the key to success because you are so busy trying
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to save lives, whipping the dying horse,
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taking care of your loved ones,
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you don't have time for this. But you allocate one hour a week.
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Yeah. Yeah. No, that's great. Is there a way to measure
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and then track by the way I'm an engineer by education?
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So I love data and I love, love,
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love spreadsheets and tracking things.
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So is there a way to to ~ check the inflammation
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and neuroinflammation in a living person?
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~ either via imaging or blood.
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yes. a good friend of mine,
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Dr. Andrew Campbell, he's an elder man ~ now and but we were on stage
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in Las Vegas last year together and that day happened to be his birthday,
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so his wife invited me to dinner with them and we had we had a really nice dinner
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and and I said, Andrew, ~ I've got a slide in every presentation with
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a picture of you. And he looked at me and I said,
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There's your picture and I put up there in God We Trust and then I click
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the button and then the next part comes all others require data.
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Okay, love it. Yes.
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That's that's
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his that's his phrase. That's how you know is
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Yes.
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that you do the right tests to find out.
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And I won't see somebody. you know,
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I see one patient a week, maybe by Zoom.
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I don't have time to do more than that because I travel the world teaching doctors
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about this stuff. But I like to do one patient a week.
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My staff knows they can't schedule more than one a week.
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And I want five years of their test results,
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and they have to do
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Five years.
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five tests before I'll ever talk to them.
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So I take an hour beforehand and I look at their history,
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their health history, their current symptoms,
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the health history, all the tests.
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I see the patterns that have been happening over the last five years,
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and then okay, here's where they are today.
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And these five tests.
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So when I get on the phone, as I did just before this interview with
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a really nice 21-year-old young man,
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~ and I just look at all this data,
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and then it's not difficult say,
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can you see the pattern of what happened here and here
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And you
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and here and here? And look where you are right now.
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This is why you're feeling the way that you are.
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But this isn't the problem. This is just the result of all of this progression.
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that has happened over the last five years or 10 years.
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I always say, take charge of your health.
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You have to collect your data,
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you have to keep it with you, and you have to be able to present it exactly
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as you said, with a five year span with those graphs,
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so you can see trends and and correlations also,
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Yes, yes, yes.
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right? And and one
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more factor to add to all of this,
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which
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I don't even know really what to do with it.
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So I would love to have your point of view on that So as I said,
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I unfortunately lost my father to Alzheimer's disease.
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He was very strong. He's 85, he was 85 on no medication whatsoever,
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very strong physically. But Alzheimer's,
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his sister has Alzheimer's, his brother is beginning to show symptoms.
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His other sister does not show any symptoms at all.
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I was tested. I don't carry the APOE4 gene.
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My dad did not either. So now that makes me think that given this family history,
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I'm actually thinking about my,
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of course, my own long-term brain health and more importantly,
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the actual predisposition that's driving this neurodegenerative disease.
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So, how do you think about genetics,
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not specifically APOE4, but maybe,
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versus the other risk factors?
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And the biological systems involved,
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including what you were talking about,
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this stress, constant stress, and our bad reactions.
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Depending on the disease you're talk or the paper that you read,
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the research paper, somewhere
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Mm.
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between twenty to thirty percent of diseases,
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if you've got the gene, you're likely a candidate for the disease,
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like cystic fibrosis, for example.
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It's unfortunate, but there's not much.
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You can it you can enhance the quality of life,
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but extending that life not
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Much evidence. But for the 70 to 80 percent of the genes,
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genes load the gun,
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but it's the environment that pulls the trigger.
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It's the environment you live in that's the problem.
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What does that mean? Well, it's the food that you're putting down here.
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The most common source of inflammatory triggers is what's on the end of your fork.
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So there's things you can do that help your body reduce
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the inflammation in the brain that's causing the accumulation
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of the plaque that eventually gets diagnosed as Alzheimer's.
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Ca ca can we actually talk about that?
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Because also there's a lot of confusion and unfortunately so much money that's been
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budgeted to research on how to reduce the amyloid plaque as
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as it being the root cause of Alzheimer's.
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You right, right. That's
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that's a really good question.
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That's a very advanced question.
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Not many will know that. That's good for you.
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~ it was Robert Moir, M-O-I-R.
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Robert Moir at Harvard, he passed a couple of years ago,
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but fifteen years ago, six sixteen,
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sixteen years ago, he showed us that beta amyloid
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is
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A component of the immune system.
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And if you have a breach of the blood brain barrier,
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leaky brain, and ~ this type of bacteria called gram
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negative bacteria, it has a suit
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of armor called LPS, lipopolysaccharides,
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just the coat of armor that protects the bacteria in a mammal's body.
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It's why the bacteria has lived for millions of years,
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because it has this coat of armor,
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and the mammal's immune system can't kill,
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can't get at the bacteria to kill it.
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So when LPS gets into your brain
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because you've got a leaky brain,
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a breach of the blood brain barrier,
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because you've got inflammation in your bloodstream from the food that you're
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eating, as an example.
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And that inflammation in the bloodstream causes a breach of the blood brain barrier,
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and LPS gets into the brain because of a breach of the blood brain barrier.
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Your immune system produces beta-amyloid that goes into
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the brain and it secretes a kind of bleach to kill
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the bacteria that's inside the suit of armor.
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And then
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It produces this these amyloid crystals that surround
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the ~ bacteria, the LPS and the bacteria,
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and it entombs the bacteria that
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got into the brain just in case anything was still alive in there.
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It entombs the LPS. That's beta amyloid plaque.
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It's a response.
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To an invasion in the brain
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~
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of bad bacteria. Beta amyloid plaque
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Okay.
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is a life-saving mechanism. You'll never be able to stop
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the production of beta-amyloid plaque.
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What you want to address is the leaky brain and the inflammation
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in the bloodstream.
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Wow. Okay. Yeah. So now the words I'm thinking,
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because here's what I'm thinking about.
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I'm thinking, based on everything that you said,
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I'm imagining a leaky gut that causes all of these
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LPS and and endotoxins to go into the brain and the inflammation.
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But
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Yes.
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you also have a leaky brain. So now you have both of them are are leaky.
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And while you're trying to resolve
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the leakiness, I don't know if that's a scientific term,
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of both of these
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It works, it works.
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it works, of these two systems,
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you're also trying to reduce the inflammation going there.
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So you need to be working on both,
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right? The the actual holes that you have that are allowing all these
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bad things to go through to your bloodstream or to your brain while you're also,
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well, that's why you're taking the PectaSol,
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where you're trying to
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mobilize all of these toxins in the bloodstream and and flushing them out,
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right? Is is that the way kind of you should approach this?
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That is exactly correct. And the way you do that
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is by identifying what is my immune system fighting?
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Why do I have so much inflammation?
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Is it mold? Is it bad bacteria?
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Is it heavy metals? What is it that my immune system is fighting,
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which is what's creating the inflammation?
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Your immune system is the armed forces in your body.
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It's there to protect you. There's an army,
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a navy, an Air Force, a Marines,
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a Coast Guard. We call them IGA,
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IgE, IgM, cytokines. They're all branches of the immune system just there
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to protect you. So the million dollar question is when you have inflammation,
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the million dollar question is what is your immune system trying
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to protect you from?
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I mean, it's just common sense.
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that's wonderful. So I would love to bring us back to also how we kind of started,
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which is ~ the the these two issues that we're having to deal with,
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which is
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Autism that's neurodevelop developmental,
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while Alzheimer's is neurodegenerative.
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So researchers sometimes discuss overlapping biology.
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Not very often, I think. I think it should be done more,
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but the overlapping biology, such as immune activation,
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oxidative stress, mitochondrial dysfunction,
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gut brain signaling, neuroinflammation,
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and I think metabolic issues. I really think that's a huge piece also of the puzzle.
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But when you see overlapping mechanisms across two what looks like
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two very different conditions,
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what does that tell us and what does it actually not tell us?
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A paper came out last year that identified pregnant women
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who have dysbiosis. That's a fancy word that means too many bad guys,
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not enough good guys in your gut.
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Too many bad bacteria, not enough good bacteria.
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Maybe you get bloating, maybe you get a little gas,
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maybe you get a little cramping,
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maybe you got constipation, maybe you got diarrhea.
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didn't matter what the symptoms were.
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But if they had dysbiosis, the baby's development,
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baby's brain development in utero was compromised.
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That the amount of myelin,
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the saran wrap around the nerves,
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the insulation protecting the nerves,
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was much less, substantially less
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in the babies whose moms had dysbiosis.
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And the number of neurons, the nerve cells connecting to a next nerve cell,
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and all the tentacles of the nerve cells connecting to all the other nerve cells,
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the number of neurons was greatly reduced in the moms who had dysbiosis.
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So baby's brain does not develop to whatever its genetic potential is,
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it just doesn't develop.
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They may have a healthy pregnancy,
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they may have a healthy delivery,
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baby looks beautiful, baby looks great,
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no problems. You can't tell brain development in utero was compromised.
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There's no evidence. Until they're about three or four,
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then the evidence shows. That's what you're up against.
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I have great ~ compassion for caregivers.
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My very good friend's wife just died ten days
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ago from advanced Parkinson's.
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And you know, I know the day-to-day that he went through every
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day and how much damage it's caused to him and
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the grief and all of that. very real.
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I appreciate.
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The demands on caregivers for autistic children.
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That's why I'm so happy to come here because there's no magic pill,
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you know. There's but this process works to give
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you more strength to rebuild your adrenal glands so that you can handle
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the stress better without wearing
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Yes.
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yourself down more. This is the mechanism that works.
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So mm-hmm,
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yeah.
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Identify
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the triggers of inflammation in your body,
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reduce those triggers of inflammation,
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and allocate one hour a week to how do I reduce those environmental triggers
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of inflammation.
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Yeah, so no, thank you so much for that.
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And so for all these caregivers that are listening to you,
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that now are realizing, first of all,
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what they're facing, which is really overwhelming and hard,
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but also that frankly, let's be honest,
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only gonna get worse with time.
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And now they see you here and and you say you have a methodology
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and you have solutions. So, first of all,
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what book should they get? how can they follow this book as a roadmap
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for them to take care of their brain health
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B between the book You Can Fix Your Brain,
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that's the name of the book, and I did the audio for the book.
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Number one in seven categories on Amazon for brain function.
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~ get the book and go to TheDr.com and
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~ register for the inflammation equation.
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There's no charge. And watch the inflammation equation.
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We send you one episode a day,
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about 40 minutes a day.
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And if someone wants to work with me,
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you can, there's tests to do and things,
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but but you'll have a lot of information from the inflammation equation.
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So you've got plenty. One hour a week.
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That's all.
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the website is TheDr.com, thedoctor.com.
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There's lots of information ~ that you can download and learn.
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and if you want to explore working with me,
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it's infoinfo, info at the doctor.com.
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schedule a discovery call. There's no charge for that
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to help any way we can.
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So, Tom, I end every biohacking autism conversation with a magic wand that
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I'm gonna send all the way there to you.
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And if I gave it to you, what would you change to help caregivers help their brain
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health and extend their brain?
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health span so they can keep showing up for their kids and the people they love
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for decades to come.
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Stop looking for the answer. There is no answer.
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It's one hour a week to learn the big picture.
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There is no answer that's gonna make it better for you.
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You're stuck in a terrible place.
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And because of your love and kudos to you,
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and you know, ~ but
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It's one hour a week to learn how to change the lifestyle enough to where
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you are touching, you're putting the toe your toe in the water
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of parasympathetic dominance.
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Tom, thank you so much. ~ I love,
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love, love this conversation. And honestly,
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and I love that we agreed kind of on on the direction and that we were brought back
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the caregiver into the health equation because we spend so much time asking what's
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happening in our children's brain,
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their immune system, their guts,
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their sleep, their behavior.
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We have to remember that we need our own brains and bodies to keep working
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for a very, very long time. So that that was absolutely fantastic.
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Tom, thank you for sharing also your work and your perspective with us today.
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Thank you so much. It's a real pleasure.
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God speed to all of you.
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Thank you. And to everybody listening,
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thank you for being here. And if you liked this episode or you know another parent
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or caregiver who needs to hear it,
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please share it with them. This is one of the best ways you can help this show reach
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more families. I'm Nadia Elkhatib and this is Biohacking Autism.
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And I'll see you next week.