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HR1: Underdog Picks · In the Locker Room presented by Neighborhood Ford Store (Pittsburgh Steelers)

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  Speaker 1: This is In the Locker Room with Rob King, Max Starks,
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  Speaker 1: and Willie Colon on Steelers Nation Radio, brought to you
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  Speaker 2: And thank you very much for being with us in
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  Speaker 2: the locker room with Willie Colon and Max Starks.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Rob King. Before we launch into the show, there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot to get to.
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  Speaker 2: I just have one question for my friend Max Starks. Max,
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  Speaker 2: if you thought any one of the three of us, you, Willie,
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  Speaker 2: or me, would be having technical difficulties with a laptop
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, who would your selection be?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I probably, Rob, would have said you before
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  Speaker 4: what Willie's going through currently.
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  Speaker 2: That would be, under almost any circumstance, an outstanding guess. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, my technical deficiencies are well known among my
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  Speaker 2: circle of friends. So it is with sadness that I
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  Speaker 2: report that Willie Colon cannot see you right now.
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  Speaker 3: And I can on Zoom.
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  Speaker 2: Because, Willie, Max Starks is wearing a Florida Gators helmet.
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  Speaker 2: Over the top of that helmet, he has the earbud
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  Speaker 2: so he can hear us. And somewhere in there, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know where, is the microphone. You got it jammed
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  Speaker 2: up over your eye.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Willie, you're missing a sight. You're missing a sight, Willie.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not surprised Max is extra committed to the Gators
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  Speaker 5: this week or any time in life. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if you noticed, at one point, well, not one point,
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  Speaker 5: but this did happen, I was It was Ohio State
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  Speaker 5: versus Florida Gators, Chris Leak at quarterback, and Troy Smith
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  Speaker 5: was the quarterback for Ohio State. Max took me to
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  Speaker 5: my first pet rally, first ever pet rally. It was
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  Speaker 5: a Florida Gator pet rally. And I walked around this
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  Speaker 5: pet rally. The place was rocking loud. People had live
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  Speaker 5: Gators strapped to tables and saying, The first time I
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  Speaker 5: felt like I was Max's security because people, grown people
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  Speaker 5: walking up to Max, holding babies, telling Max that I
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  Speaker 5: named my child after you. My son is now named
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  Speaker 5: Max because of you, Max Starks. So this man bleeds
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  Speaker 5: orange and blue. So it's no surprise that on a
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  Speaker 5: Friday he's wearing a beloved Florida Gator helmet.
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  Speaker 2: So, Willie, I grew up as a guy who grew
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  Speaker 2: up outside of New York City before I moved upstate
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  Speaker 2: New York.
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  Speaker 3: I was a pro fan. I think if you grow up.
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  Speaker 2: Around New York City, you're probably not a big college
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  Speaker 2: fan unless you went to a college. My dad took
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  Speaker 2: me to an Ivy League game. By the way, the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback of that Ivy League game was Stone Phillips, who
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  Speaker 2: went on to become a big correspondent on TV. That
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  Speaker 2: was the year after Gary Fensick was his wide receiver.
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  Speaker 2: He went on to be a great player for the
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  Speaker 2: 86 Bears. We'll get to them in a moment and
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  Speaker 2: the passing of Mike Ditka. But my wife went to Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: And then we played football on Saturdays, so high school football.
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  Speaker 2: So I was never a college fan. I wasn't home
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  Speaker 2: on Saturdays, and I grew up as a pro fan.
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  Speaker 2: So my wife said, all right, we're going to– well,
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  Speaker 2: then we were dating.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to go to a Tennessee game, Tennessee-Auburn. Both
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  Speaker 3: teams were ranked. It was a great game.
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  Speaker 2: So I said, all right, as an hors d'oeuvre, as
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  Speaker 2: an appetizer, I'm going to go to a couple Syracuse
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  Speaker 2: games because we were living in Utica because it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: too far away. My first college game that I went to,
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  Speaker 2: Syracuse played Florida. Florida was ranked like three in the country.
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  Speaker 2: And Syracuse absolutely smoked them. Sorry to report that to you, Max.
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  Speaker 2: They ran a reverse off the opening kickoff, and I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is college football. I went to another game. I
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  Speaker 2: went to Michigan. They were playing. They had Desmond Howard.
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  Speaker 2: He did the Heisman pose at the game. And then
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  Speaker 2: I went down to Tennessee-Auburn. So that was my introduction
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  Speaker 2: that year. It was four great games to go to.
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  Speaker 2: And so then I became hooked. I became a college fan.
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  Speaker 2: And because Willie, my wife went to Tennessee. And in
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  Speaker 2: the 90s, the biggest matchup in the SEC was Tennessee-Florida.
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  Speaker 6: It was it.
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  Speaker 2: It was the biggest matchup. And I had to watch
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  Speaker 2: year after year after year as Steve Spurrier outcoached whoever
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  Speaker 2: was coaching for Tennessee. and it didn't matter if they
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  Speaker 2: had Peyton Manning, who they had, Florida always seemed.
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  Speaker 3: To find a way to win.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a trophy game, Rob? Well, so the winner
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  Speaker 2: of that game in those days went to the Orange Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: SEC champion. The loser of that game went to the
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  Speaker 2: Citrus Bowl. So somebody asked Steve Spurrier, he was stumping
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  Speaker 2: around doing his off-season stuff, They said, hey, Coach Spurrier,
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  Speaker 2: he was in Tennessee. You think this is the year
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  Speaker 2: the Volunteers finally get you and win the SEC? And
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  Speaker 2: Spurrier looked at him and said, well, all I know
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  Speaker 2: is you can't spell citrus without UT.
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  Speaker 6: How about that?
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  Speaker 3: Ice cold, Steve Spurrier. I had to watch him every year, man.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, man. They got eight first-round picks.
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  Speaker 2: They got Peyton Manning at quarterback. Surely this will be
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  Speaker 2: the year. And it wasn't until Peyton left and T.
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  Speaker 3: Martin came. Then they finally won.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they won, and it was pretty funny.
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  Speaker 2: Generally speaking, I have to say Florida in hushed tones
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  Speaker 2: around the house. Even more than Alabama. I think my
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  Speaker 2: wife does not care for Florida even more than Alabama.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and you guys let Steve Spurrier leave the state,
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  Speaker 4: you know, since you're now– You guys?
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  Speaker 6: You as a tenant. Yeah, you're a Tennessee fan.
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  Speaker 2: My big game is against University of Chicago, man.
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  Speaker 6: Come on. No, no, no. Don't start now. Don't start now.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, home of the first Heisman Trophy.
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  Speaker 3: Winner, University of Chicago, home of the first Heisman Trophy winner,
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  Speaker 3: Jay Berwanger.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Max.
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  Speaker 6: First of all, that is the most useless but interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Fact that you could have thrown out out of all
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  Speaker 4: of this in the middle of this conversation.
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  Speaker 7: Man.
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  Speaker 6: But no, I mean, no, I'm happy.
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  Speaker 4: This is my first time calling a Florida game in
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  Speaker 4: Florida this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you're calling it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm calling the Florida-South Carolina game on Saturday. So
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  Speaker 4: I'm pretty pumped up about it.
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  Speaker 6: Man, thanks, man.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's my first time back in the swamp.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I had the helmet on. It was like
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  Speaker 4: reliving that revelry. I'm looking at my game ball, my
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  Speaker 4: first ever game ball in college against LSU on actually
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  Speaker 4: a couple days ago, October 6, 2001.
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  Speaker 6: We got my first game ball. We beat LSU 44-15.
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  Speaker 4: But that's not the most important thing and the reason
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  Speaker 4: why I got this game ball. The reason I got
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  Speaker 4: this game ball is because we threw an interception in
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  Speaker 4: the end zone. We're driving in the first quarter. And
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  Speaker 4: a defensive back picks the ball off in the end zone.
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  Speaker 4: And he's headed up down the sidelines. And I go
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  Speaker 4: and I chase this defensive back. And I actually take
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  Speaker 4: him down and tackle him. Preventing a touchdown because nobody
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  Speaker 4: else is in the area. The significance about that tackle
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  Speaker 4: and this game ball is.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, yes. I know this. I noticed that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the defensive back from LSU that made that interception
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  Speaker 4: and was trying to run it back was the one
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  Speaker 4: and only Ryan Clark.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 4: I tackled RC on an interception, and my first ever
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  Speaker 4: game ball came from that game and that play specifically
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  Speaker 4: uh in that game so i always love to remind
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  Speaker 4: ryan clark that he's slower than me that is that
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  Speaker 4: is every time i get a chance to.
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  Speaker 2: First of all i love the we through an interception
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  Speaker 2: not the quarterback to intercept very nice max uh it
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  Speaker 2: reminds me willie that i i only played one way
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  Speaker 2: i didn't play both ways but i think i was
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  Speaker 2: our leading tackler and I played quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: So that's probably not a good statistic right there. So
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  Speaker 3: probably not good.
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  Speaker 2: Probably not a good stat. So, hey, listen, guys, lots
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  Speaker 2: to get to. You know, I got to say, really
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  Speaker 2: sad to hear that Mike Ditka passed away.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, just an icon.
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  Speaker 2: You know, obviously a Pittsburgh guy, grew up in Aliquippa,
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  Speaker 2: went to Pitt, you know, just– the hardest working person
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  Speaker 2: anybody had ever been around at the Pitt campus. Everybody,
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  Speaker 2: he was a two-way guy. Everybody, Mike Ditka included, thought
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  Speaker 2: he was going to be a defensive end in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: And the only team that wanted him as a tight
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  Speaker 2: end instead of a defensive end was the Bears. And
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  Speaker 2: of course, he went on to become not only a
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  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame player, you know, one of the signature,
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  Speaker 2: one of the greatest players ever at the tight end position.
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  Speaker 3: And then the Bears, and then, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, the Saturday Night Live skits and all that stuff,
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  Speaker 2: Ditka and all the other stuff. And I'm just, you know,
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  Speaker 2: went on to a TV career, but just, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's harder to think of larger figures in the history
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  Speaker 2: of the NFL than Mike Ditka.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So me and Max had the opportunity to meet Mike
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  Speaker 5: every Superbowl.
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  Speaker 7: He does the Dick and.
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  Speaker 5: Jaws cigar party, which has kind of become a staple
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  Speaker 5: for Super Bowl weekend. And I had the opportunity over
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  Speaker 5: the years to actually sit and talk to Mike Dicker,
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  Speaker 5: which is surreal.
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  Speaker 6: And smoke cigars with Mike Dicker.
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  Speaker 5: And smoke cigars, which is like surreal when you think
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  Speaker 5: about it. And everything you mentioned, Rob, an iconic figure,
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  Speaker 5: played obviously the 85 Bears.
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  Speaker 7: I think he did in his own professional career. you
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  Speaker 7: ball doing that.
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  Speaker 5: And so when he was a true Ironman, but once again,
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  Speaker 5: to circle back, when I met a man, it was
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  Speaker 5: awesome to just hear him just talk, you know, just
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  Speaker 5: talk about ball, just talk about the current state of
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  Speaker 5: the NFL life. And, you know, there's, there's some things you,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you, you get things, people get asked like, Hey,
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  Speaker 5: if you had an opportunity to smoke weed with Snoop,
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  Speaker 5: would you take it?
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: If you had an opportunity to smoke a cigar with
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  Speaker 5: Mike Dicker, you smoke a cigar. And it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 5: if you smoke or not. You at least take a
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  Speaker 5: puff or two.
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  Speaker 7: And that's how I felt, man. And there's certain things.
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  Speaker 5: When the opportunity and moment presents itself, you got to
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  Speaker 5: recognize that the opportunity and moment is bigger than you
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  Speaker 5: and your feelings. And so with all that said, you know, he's,
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  Speaker 5: every time I met him, he greeted me with a
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  Speaker 5: handshake and a hug and, and a laugh or a joke,
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  Speaker 5: and we would talk ball, and he would go about
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  Speaker 5: his merry way. But he was always a gentleman, always
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  Speaker 5: a stand-up man, and he will be missed.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean, I echo the same sentiments because
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  Speaker 4: Willie and I shared the same experience, right? I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it was just surreal, you know. A, when you first
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  Speaker 4: get the invitation, right, you feel like you've arrived.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you get an invitation. You've been accepted.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you've been granted two tickets to Dick and
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  Speaker 4: Jaws cigar party.
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  Speaker 6: You're like, what? And then every year you're like, I
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  Speaker 6: got to go.
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  Speaker 4: I get like, I don't even know if I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to Super Bowl, but now I got to go to
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  Speaker 4: Super Bowl because I just got invited to Dick and
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  Speaker 4: Jaws cigar party.
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  Speaker 6: And, you know, you walk around and it's a lot
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  Speaker 6: of legends around.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 6: You know, Mike Dick was a superstar.
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  Speaker 4: So everybody who's everybody that's there at Super Bowl is
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  Speaker 4: in this party.
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  Speaker 6: And then it's like Mike. made it a point, you know,
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  Speaker 6: to go mingle, be whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Because, I mean, he could have just sat off and
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  Speaker 4: kind of been like up on a stage or a
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  Speaker 4: dais or whatever and just kind of waving, right? Like
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  Speaker 4: the Pope, you know, which, funny enough, you talk about
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  Speaker 4: who'd win in a fistfight, Ditka or the Pope?
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  Speaker 6: You know, of course, Ditka, go Bears. You know, like
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  Speaker 6: you think about those SNL skits.
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  Speaker 4: But he was out there and he was also giving
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  Speaker 4: you his recommendations of his favorite cigars in the place.
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  Speaker 6: He had like 30 vendors come in.
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  Speaker 4: But he's like, yep, no, this is the one that
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  Speaker 4: I want to smoke. You want to smoke this one? Okay,
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  Speaker 4: we're smoking this one. Like it was just kind of
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  Speaker 4: cool to just have that kind of one-on-one with him.
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  Speaker 4: And like you said, you just sit down with him,
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  Speaker 4: and there's like all these tables and, you know, the
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  Speaker 4: big cigar trays, ashtrays, and you're just sitting around, and
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  Speaker 4: he's just talking ball, talking about, hey, you know, what
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  Speaker 4: did you think about this?
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  Speaker 6: You know, if I was at tight end, I would
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  Speaker 6: have came and– I would have loved to have blocked
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  Speaker 6: next to you.
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  Speaker 4: You know, like all these just cool phrases and stories
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  Speaker 4: and just such a legendary figure. not only in the league,
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  Speaker 4: but I think just in popular culture, I think, you know,
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  Speaker 4: SNL really popularized them. And, you know, it was something that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you pick a guy like Mike Dicka, who
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  Speaker 4: was always tough. I still think about the movie kicking
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  Speaker 4: and screaming with Will Ferrell. Do you guys remember that movie?
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  Speaker 6: Oh my God. Hilarious. Cause he got the espresso machine.
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  Speaker 4: They started going head to head with Will Ferrell and
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  Speaker 4: Mike Dicka did not back down to a comedian of
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  Speaker 4: Will Ferrell's ilk.
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  Speaker 6: So it's just, all those kind of cool things.
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  Speaker 4: It's a tremendous loss for the league today because you
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  Speaker 4: had a true ambassador of the game that spanned more
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  Speaker 4: than just football itself. He spanned into popular culture, kids, women, children,
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  Speaker 4: you know, just everybody kind of knew who Mike Ditka was.
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  Speaker 4: And that's, I mean, just like a John Madden type
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  Speaker 4: was to the game of football, like Mike Ditka was
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  Speaker 4: that as well. And so, yeah, it's a sad day.
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  Speaker 4: We know he's been struggling, but we know that he's
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  Speaker 4: in a better place. There's no more pain. He's back
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  Speaker 4: up there with a lot of his 85 bears.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: One of the cool things for me in my job
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  Speaker 2: is not getting to know these guys like you did,
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  Speaker 2: but at least getting to sit down with them for
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  Speaker 2: a couple of hours and interview them about things. We
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  Speaker 2: were doing a bunch of pit specials, so I had
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  Speaker 2: a chance to talk to Tony Dorsett and Dan Marino
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  Speaker 2: and Mike Ditka. And his brother Ashton was a really
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  Speaker 2: good athlete too. I don't think he, you know, he
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  Speaker 2: didn't make the NFL or anything, but very good athlete.
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  Speaker 2: His mom, Virginia, very cool to talk to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and you could see where the toughness came from. I
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  Speaker 2: think it came from mom. And it just, he's just
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  Speaker 2: one of those guys. He's just one of those figures that's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's larger than life. And when you think
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  Speaker 2: about the history of the NFL and whether it's Mike
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  Speaker 2: Ditka or, Lawrence Taylor or Jim Brown. They're just certain
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  Speaker 2: guys who are great players, no doubt a Hall of Famer,
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  Speaker 2: but there's an aura about them, a bigness about them
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  Speaker 2: that not every Hall of Famer has.
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  Speaker 3: To me, guys, Mike Ditka had that.
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  Speaker 5: I think for a lot of people, this generation may
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  Speaker 5: not appreciate him, man, but you talk about a dude
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  Speaker 5: who was not only a true Ironman, but really was
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  Speaker 5: a patriot as well. I think a lot of times
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  Speaker 5: when you talk about his, what he meant for the
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  Speaker 5: game of football, you know, you go.
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  Speaker 7: Back to those 85 Bears where.
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  Speaker 5: When him and Buddy Ryan, remember that going through their
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  Speaker 5: little skirmish on the sideline and how a lot of
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  Speaker 5: people thought that would divide a team, but it actually
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  Speaker 5: made the team hungrier, right?
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  Speaker 6: And here we are.
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  Speaker 7: Arguing about Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy and on the sideline.
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  Speaker 5: So it just shows you that, you know, arguments and
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  Speaker 5: discrepancies happen on the sideline, but it's all about attending
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  Speaker 5: the ultimate goal.
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  Speaker 7: So, you know, he was, he was just a man's
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  Speaker 7: man once again.
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  Speaker 5: And I think overall, man, I wish, I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if they do it now, they can't do it, but
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  Speaker 5: like some of those legends of the time kind of
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  Speaker 5: need to go on 30 for 30, where we go
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  Speaker 5: back in time and really see, you.
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  Speaker 7: Know, what they meant to the game of football and
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  Speaker 7: who they.
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  Speaker 5: Were, you know, as a man, I know Nick Saban
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  Speaker 5: has a thing coming out or is out right now,
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  Speaker 5: on ESPN where they kind of talk about him as
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  Speaker 5: a coach and his kind of manic and robust ways.
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  Speaker 5: I would love to see somebody make something of Mike
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  Speaker 5: Dickey because I know it would be damn good.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely. And I think that's something that you kind of
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: look at. You know, it was like what they call
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: the football life too. That would have been great.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: I know they've captured interviews, but I think putting a compilation,
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing is like game film, right?
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's One of the things that's so tough,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: because it's like you hear about these guys, but sometimes
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: you got to see them. And you got to understand that, okay, yes,
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: this guy talked, but this dude played tough. You know,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: I'm looking at something my buddy Keith Reese had sent
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: it to me about Dick and his buddy Foge Fazio,
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: who obviously famously Pitt Panthers head coach and everything. But
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: they were teammates at Pitt in the 50s, and they
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: both wanted to be dentists. Like, that's why they went
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: to Pitt, because they were like, we need to go
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: to a great dental school.
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: We want to be dentists.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, It's like you're more
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: responsible for taking out teeth in a different way than
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: you were the way that you initially anticipated. But it's
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: just like you see these relationships and you hear this history.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, that would have been a great thing to know. Like, hey,
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: what was your dream? Because not everybody's dream was being
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: in football. Some of them kind of fall into it
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: or you find a path and a passion, but you
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: still go to school for different reasons. And to hear
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: that Mike Dick wanted to be a dentist is just
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: hilarious and something that You wouldn't know, and I feel
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: like a documentary or some type of 30 for 30
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: football life stories were kind of telling you. You get
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: to show the film. I mean, Mike Ditka was one
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: of those guys. He played tight end, but he played
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: tight end like a defensive end.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? He took the fight to you.
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: He wanted to beat you up.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: He didn't care about really catching a football. He was like,
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I get to legally beat you within an inch of
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: your life. And he took that personally. And that's what
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: created that kind of determination, which then led him to
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: being a great head coach. And like you said, eventually
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: the identity of the 85 Bears is through his lens.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: He molded and shaped that group.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: So, yeah, once again, it's.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: A tremendous loss. But what a tremendous man and what
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: a life well lived by Mike Dicca.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Man's man, as Willie said.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Foge Fazio was, oh, what another beautiful human being that
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: we lost way too soon.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Great guy. And Keith Reese.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Getting a keith reese shout out that's right my guy
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: one of the one of.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: The great uh photogs in the country one of the
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: great videographers in the country keith.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Yes yes he'll be he'll be doing our game on
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: sunday rob is that right yeah yeah because it's the
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: a crew he's he's on the a crew for cbs so.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Well i'm never down in the field so i never
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: see those guys i.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Know i know you gotta take a lap in your
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: walkings when you're nervously figuring out your energy you should
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: just Walk over and say hello.
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: Keith's on the opposite sideline.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: I think I'll do that.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I think I'll pop out and say hi to our
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: buddy Keith Reese. So farewell to Mike Ditka from us
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: in the locker room. Just an iconic, iconic figure. When
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: we return, well, let's lay out what else we have
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: for you here today. Missy Matthews joining us at 1 o'clock.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: We're going to relive what happened last night because that
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay team looked like a different team, and that's
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: who the Steelers are going to be facing tonight. coming
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: up next week. So Tampa Bay is going to be
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: the team getting that extra rest. Of course, we're going
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: to break down the game on Sunday against the Colts
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: with our big-time matchup of the game. and our around-the-league
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: weekend predictions. This is when Justin's going to start.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: It starts this week. We kind of got in.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: There and out of there and wasn't as organized as
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: it needed to be. Everyone's going to make their upset prediction.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: It's got to be an upset, so I'll have the
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: lines out for everybody. And Justin's going to keep score.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Justin Miller, our esteemed producer, will keep score beginning this week.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Because I think I picked seven upsets last week. No,
• 20:21
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• 20:23
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• 20:26
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• 20:29
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• 20:39
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• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Last night, Thursday night football, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Took it to the Dallas Cowboys 24-16. That is back-to-back.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: The Cowboys driving late. Dak Prescott throws an interception. Back-to-back weeks.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, they squandered one against the Ravens down in,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: what is it, Buenos Aires?
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Is that where that game was?
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: No, no, no.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Rio de Janeiro. Rio de Janeiro, yep. So they blew
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: that game.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: And then this one, I don't know whether this one, Willie,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: says more about Tampa Bay or Dallas. But I have
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: to figure, you know, all the stories about Jalen Daniels,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: you know, six years at Kansas and waiting his turn.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: It sounds like a team first guy. And the way
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: he plays, he played with a great deal of poise
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: last night, I thought. He didn't make any mistakes.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: He was not.
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: Almost.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: He played with some reckless.
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: Was that? He said almost. Yeah, almost.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: But he played with some reckless abandon, too. Like, I mean,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: you know, without getting crazy about things. You know, he
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: lowered his shoulder to try to pick up first downs,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: and I would imagine he's the kind of guy with
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield probably going to miss at least one more
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: game the game next week against the Steelers. This is
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: a guy that they might be able to rally around,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: and maybe he has a chance to salvage their season,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: or maybe it just says more about the Cowboys. What
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: was your take on last night's game?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, so I'll start with the Bucs. I mean,
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: for the Bucs, it was a must win. You're 0-4
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: going into the Cowboys. Nobody gave them a shot. The
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: only way they could beat the Cowboys was running the ball,
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: and they did with Bucky Irvin.
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: I think he rushed for over 165 yards.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: 21 for 165, Willie. They just jammed it down their throat.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: They ran for 241 yards.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: And they actually did it the Steeler way, how we
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: used to run our powers and sweeps and zones. They
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: actually just doubled teams across the board and Pulled some guards, man,
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: found the hole in Bucky Irvin, made him look silly.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: And credit Todd Bowles, man, because he's been taking a
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: lot of flack. I think ESPN or somebody had.
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: Put out a poll.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: As far as a hot seat poll, like what coaches
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: are in the hot season. I think he was in
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: the top three. So the response on Thursday night.
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: Football was big.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: And defensively, they played a bend but don't break defense.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: They understood that Dak and that offense and what they
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: can do. could be extremely explosive, and they know they
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: can put up point bunches. With all that said, man,
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: just credit the Bucs for just staying scrappy. It was
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: an easy deck. I mean, the Cowboys tried to throw
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: them a couple, but even the Bucs were, I mean,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: there was some game management situations that you're kind of questionable,
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: especially out of the tied bowls. But with all that said,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: the Bucs found a way to win, and it was
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: a necessary win in the division. But I think the
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: main headline is the Cowboys, man. You beat the Texans 34-30. Yes,
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: it's a short week, but the script was written.
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: Think about it.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: If they beat the Bucs Thursday night, they now have
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: a 10-game stretch where they can recoup and get healthy
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: and get ready for the Packers. Possibly Michael Parsons is
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: waiting for you. You're at the top of the division.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: Everything was building up for the Cowboys, and you blow it.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: Multiple turnovers. The defense is absolutely atrocious on all levels.
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: I mean, they can't get a pass rush. The secondary
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: is horrible.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: And Christian Parker, who's their new defensive coordinator, who's supposed
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: to be this young savant guru or whatever, is looking
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: small in real time. And the defense, it was just
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: a poor tackling job out of the Cowboys. And, you know,
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: this is where the Cowboys are. You know, it's hard
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: to get behind them when you have an outing like that.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: And what's interesting, you know, there's been a lot of
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: talk about this Cowboys offense. You know, you talk about
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: Dak and CD and George, what is $ 120 million wrapped
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: up in between those guys. On top of that, they
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: did pay Jake Ferguson, who hasn't been, ever since they
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: paid him, he hasn't played well at all. And then
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: you talk about Deron Bland on the defensive side, he
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: hasn't played well as well. So Jerry has... Jerry has
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: paid everybody, right? Jerry has done his part. He's paid everybody.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: He's got a new defensive coordinator. He's upgraded the roster.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: He has stayed out of the headlines by being quiet
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: and saying, hey, I'm going to let the ball speak
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: for itself.
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: And there was a big push for this team to.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, a lot of people were thinking of the
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: Cowboys as a contender, a dark horse, or a potential
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: NFC playing an NFC championship game because of what they
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: could do offensively and having a defense that could just be–
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: and competent and competitive. We have not seen that yet
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: out of Dallas Cowboys defense. And it's not a Jerry
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: Jones thing. It's not a Dak Prescott thing. This is
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: all wrapped around the Dallas Cowboys defense and their inability
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: to stop the run or pass.
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: They can't do anything right, and they're getting dinged up
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: as they go.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: So this was a bad loss for the Cowboys, and
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of heads are going to roll
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: because of it.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: All right there, Willie.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, just like we had expectations for
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: the Rams– You know, I think a lot of expectations
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: were put on the Cowboys to be that team because
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: they went and, you know, like you said, you have
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: $ 120 million tied up there, but you overhauled this defense,
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: and this defense looks no different than it.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: Did a couple of weeks ago.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: So it's like– or, I'm sorry, a couple years ago,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: and you're like all this money that was tied up
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: with it has not yielded fruition. You went and got the–
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: But the philosophy and the coaching scheme does not match.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: And so, you know, I look at it and it's just,
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: you know, once again, even though I'm not a Stephen A. fan,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: I still, you know, got to appreciate the troll job
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: of Stephen A. Smith when it comes to talking about
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: the Cowboys and just how everything is just the same.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Like it's been 30 years we've been toiling futility. And
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: like you said, to come out and have the game
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: that you did a week ago, but then to fall
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: flat on your face to an 0-4 team, the week
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: after just says that you're not providing the right culture
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: for success. You know, you hate to say it, but
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: that's the reality of the situation.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Willie, it sounded like you wanted to. The only thing
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I will say about that is that.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I do wonder, you know, Tampa Bay, again, the two
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: really disappointing 0-4 teams are Houston. Remember, they started 0-3
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: last year, and then by the time they came into
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Accresure Stadium, they were the one team you didn't want
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: to face.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: You know, they got on a roll.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Now at 0-4, a bigger hole for them. I don't
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: think anybody thought they were an 0-4 football team. I
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: don't think Tampa Bay thought they were an 0-4 football team.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: So that level of desperation, and, yeah, but the other
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: thing is, yeah, it's a Thursday night game for Dallas, but, man,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Tampa had to travel to Dallas.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I agree with you, Willie.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: I think it says a little something about Tampa, but
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I think it says a lot about the Dallas Cowboys.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think it's unfortunate because for the Cowboys–
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: the schedule doesn't get easier, right? It tends to kind
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: of get a little tougher, and right now you were
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: projected to be the kings of the division.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: Right now that's the New York Giants.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: So it's just a wacky first month, and it continues
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: to be a wacky kind of month of football, especially
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: going into this week because there's some pivotal matchups, and
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: I know we're going to get into that later. But
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: the Cowboys right now, I just don't know how, I
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: just don't know where you turn from here. Because I
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: don't think Brian Schottenheimer is the problem. Obviously, there's a
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: big issue defensively. But I think there's more or less
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: a leadership problem, too. You watch that game, and sure,
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: they're coming off a– they play the Houstons.
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: It's a short week. Everybody's tired. They look tired. But
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: I honestly was expecting Quentin.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: Williams or Kenny Clark or Sean Garrett or somebody to
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: get that– bring that group together on the sideline. I'm like,
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: all right, enough with the BS. We're playing like absolute
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: dog poop. How do we just get one drive, right?
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: How do we just win one drive? Let's get the
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: ball back to our office because we knew the Cowboys
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: could score.
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: And there was a moment at the end of that game,
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: the last drive, right?
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: If they stop before Bucky Irving capped off that game,
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: I think it was like a 20-yard run, whatever it was.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, if they stop the Cowboys, they not only
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: get the short field, but they get an opportunity. Not
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: only did the Cowboys get a chance to stop the Bucks, rather,
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: but they get a short field and the Cowboys now
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: can go score for the tie.
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: And possibly the lead. So it was, it was just
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: bad to see that.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: Defense, not one, that one, you can't put your hat
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: on one play where they stood up and really made
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: a stance for a Bucs team that was deficient in
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: multiple areas to come into Jerry's world and run the
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: ball about it, run the ball down the Cowboys throat was,
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: was disheartening, man. And, you know, like I said, this,
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: Dak can't– we're at the point where Dak has to
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: be perfect for the Cowboys to win, and it shouldn't
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: be like that when you have that much talent on
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: one team.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Why is it coming to that? Why does he have
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: to be perfect? I mean, I know a lot of
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: the reasons you just laid out. I mean, I would
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: think this offense should be able to score almost at will.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Are they feeling the pressure,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: do you.
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: Think, a little bit?
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: Well, so last night was– so a couple things. he
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: has to be perfect because the defense can't back him up.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: It's one thing when you go into a game where
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: you feel like, all right, I don't have to be
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: perfect every drive. I can lean on my defense. He
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: can give me the ball back. That puts so much
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: pressure on the offense to stay ahead on the scoreboard
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: because your defense, you know for a fact, is going
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: to let up a score on the other end. And
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: what you're seeing right now from a run game standpoint,
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: they're not running the ball as efficient as they should be.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: And they've kind of, they look like they took a
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: step back compared to what they did against the Texans.
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: And, you know, CD has, you know, CD had.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: A great game against the Texans where I sat here
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: and was like, man, we need to start looking at
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: this dude for MVP.
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: He goes through his situation. He gets missed on a
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: downfield throw by Dak.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: You know, Pickens, as much as you love or however
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: you feel about him, he's just an enigma. It's tough
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: to kind of, wrap your arms around a hell of
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: an athlete big time receiver big play big play making
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: ability but at times you can't find them on tape
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: because of effort so i think what you're talking about
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: the offense offensively why you're just talking about inconsistencies there's
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: times where they look like the greatest thing to ever
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: happen and there's times where they just they're just kind
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: of benign and stagnant so and and overall man it's
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: a it's a lot of ball left but you can't
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: You've got to find a way to kind of dig,
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: and I think that was the most disheartening thing.
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: Yes, I understand being tired.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Me and Max have played in short weeks where you
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: have a dogfight on Sunday and you're trying to recoup
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: and get your body together. You've got to play Thursday
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: nights a lot. But, man, there has to be some
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: type of pride. The Bucs were 0-4. There's multiple times
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: where they try to give you the game, and the
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: Cowboys just couldn't capitalize it. It definitely says more about
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: the Cowboys than the Bucs.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: You know, Max, when you look at that NFC East now, too,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: and I think that there were a lot of people
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: because of the John Harbaugh hire who were bullish on
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the Giants.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: You know, we went through this last year.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Which team did we think, you know, going into the
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: offseason with the draft picks you had and the cap
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: space that you had and the team you already had
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: in place, who was going to be the team that
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: kind of took that step forward? My team that I
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: was adamant about Willie, just, you know, flying in the
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: face of what most people were saying. But the team
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: that I picked was the Tennessee Titans. So, not looking
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: too good at 0-4 right now. Shows what I know.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: A lot of people said the New York Giants and
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: John Harbaugh. And you look up now at this stage,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of reason to think Washington
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: would bounce back with Jalen Daniels. And, you know, there's
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: no real reason to think that– The Eagles wouldn't remain good.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: And the Cowboys always have that great offense. You look
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: up now, the Giants are 3-1, Max. They're in first
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: place in the NFC East. Is it their division right now?
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Are they the pick to win that division?
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: I think you have to say it right now because
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: you look at what the Philadelphia Eagles are and their
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: trades and the sudden retirement of Lane Johnson and the
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: struggles that Jalen Hurts has had. And then you look
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: at the commanders like, you know, you just kind of
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: laid out, right, Jaden Daniels. And you're not sure if
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: he's even really the leader of that squad, like how
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: the team feels about him. And then we've talked ad nauseum.
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: Cowboys are still cowboying, so to speak.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, I hate to say that phrase because I
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: feel like I curse myself when I say it. But
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: that's just kind of the state of where this is.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: And the Giants and Harbaugh and company, have figured out
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: their recipe for right now. They are a hard-nosed run
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: team that uses.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: The play action.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: They have guys on the outside that they can make
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: big plays to, but it's ball possession, bully-style ball.
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: That they're playing.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: And right now, until otherwise noted, just like we had
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: to put the Cleveland Browns in this situation, they're the
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: tops of their division until otherwise noted, until the other
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: teams figure themselves out because there's inconsistency because teams are
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: trying to probably be more than what they are as
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: opposed to taking– you know, the current status of where
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: it is because sometimes you just got to go slug
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: it out. And New York's a team that does not
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: fret at slugging things out. So, you know, when you
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: have that physical nature, sometimes you can bully your way
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: into victories and until it's otherwise seen, you can start
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: to believe it because it's going to give you confidence
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: the more you do it.
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: I think right now it's interesting because I think like
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: a lot of these games that are starting to come up.
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: Like our game coming up, Steelers versus Colts, as.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Much as we want to sit here and think, you know,
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: it's going to be an air and out game considering
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: that the Colts secondary is bad and we seem to
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: have the edge from the receiver.
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: Standpoint, man. We've said all week, man, it comes down
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: to running the ball, right?
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: This Steelers team coming up Saturday at 1 o'clock, we
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: got to establish some dominance up front with our run game.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: And so you would like to see that trend continue
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: moving forward.
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: Give the ball to Jalen Warren. Let Samara to pass
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: off it, and let's get this thing moving in the
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: right direction.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I really hope that, you know, for Jaden Daniels' sake
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: and for Washington. Remember they had RG3, and he got
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: hurt and had injury issues and was never the same
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: after that rookie year. I hope for the commander's sake
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: that that's not the way Jaden Daniels is going to go. And,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: you know, hurt last year and nicked up again this year.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: And after that great week, we saw him a couple
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: of years ago in D.C., and he was just dynamic. But, again,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: if you're the Giants, what was the expression again? Nobody
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: cares that you're hurt?
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: Nobody cares that you're hurt. They're just happy you got them.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: That's right.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: So, interesting stuff in the NFC East for sure. We're
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: going to be looking forward to our upset prediction of
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: the week, our big-time matchups for the game, our keys
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: of the game on offense and defense.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Guys, you know what?
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Let's save the Colts-Steelers talk. And let's come back next
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: week with our predictions and our.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Upset of the week.
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: You mean next segment, right?
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: Next segment.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: What did I say?
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: Next weekend.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Sorry, next segment.
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: I was like, wait a second. We don't air on
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: the weekends, and next weekend.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Max took that gator helmet off. He's ready to go, man.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: The Florida education is catching it right now, baby.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: All right. Okay, stick around.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: That's what we're going to do next when we continue
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: in the locker room here on the Steelers Audio Network.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: This is In the Locker Room with Rob King, Max Starks,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: and Willie Colon on Steelers Nation Radio, brought to you
• 37:12
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• 37:19
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• 37:20
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• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: And welcome back inside the locker room.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Wanted to remind you, Missy Matthews coming up in a
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: little bit, and we are going to We are going
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: to get into the key matchups of this game between
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: the Colts and the Steelers.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: We'll ask Missy what this house.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Cleaning that Mike McCarthy's talked about, what the guys are
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: expecting to see as well this weekend. We will all
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: weigh in with our opinions on that and the big-time
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: matchups of the game. But we are now going to
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: take a look at our upset pick of the week
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: and some weekend predictions. I'm going to go ahead and
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: say it's too late for me to pick Tampa Bay
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: over the Cowboys since that already happened. So that will
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: not be my upset.
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: So clairvoyant of you, Rob.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: I was thinking.
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: No, I wasn't.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: This is all brought to you by your neighborhood Ford store.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: The F-150 is the official truck of the Pittsburgh Steelers. So, Willie,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: do you have a game where you are eyeing an upset?
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Ooh.
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: See, I'm struggling.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: Raiders.
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: Raiders.
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: Raiders!
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: That's where I'm going.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: I know it.
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: That's where I'm going.
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: It. I want to believe.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: A lot of people, I think the Patriots are favoring
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: going into this game, but the Raiders, I'm just a believer.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: And I've talked to Nazem about how much I'm a
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: believer of Clint Kubiak and.
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: Everything he's been able to do.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: As much as I'm happy with Kirk Cousins' decision-making and
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: him looking like he's turning back the clock with his play,
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: the defense is really– something I'm surprised about because, you know, listen,
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: we know Kurt can play. We know Clint Cooley is
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: a hell of a coach. We know what Ashton Gentry
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: and Brock Bowers and all those.
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: Guys can do.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: And their office in line is playing a lot better.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: But defensively, man, led by Max Crosby and Coots and
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Hezekiah Massey, the young stud who's actually popping off the
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: tape and making big plays. Collectively, this is a defensive
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: unit that really a lot of people didn't have high
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: hopes for. uh but since they had the emergence of
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: nicole b dean and some more veteran pieces man this
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: defense looks legit it looked legit so now we got
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: to see uh this defense control i think they i
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: think they're at home i think they go to new
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: england right am i right with that yes they're in
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: new england rob yeah yeah so they got to see
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: if this defense can travel now um Max talked about
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: covering the game against the Pats and Bills. Pats started
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: off slow, but they were able to rally and beat
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen and Bills. So I'm a believer that the
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: Raiders took a lot from that loss to the Chiefs. Nevertheless,
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: they went pound for pound with a really good outfit,
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: and they can't see the Chiefs. So I think they're
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: going to say, you know what, we don't stack more victories.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: We're going to actually go get us one, and they're
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: going to beat the New England Patriots.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Three and a half points. That's a pretty– It's tight.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's lower than you would have– would have thought,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: by the way, I'll just run through some teams that
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: I think are, that it's interesting that they are underdogs.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I think that it is interesting that the, the 49ers
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: at four and O are an underdog. I understand why
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I get it. They're on the road at Seattle, the
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: defending champs, three point underdog. I think that's interesting. I
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: think on Monday night football, the three and one bills.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: And I, again, on the road, They're three-point underdogs to
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: the Rams. So there's a couple of top teams who
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: are underdogs this week. Not going to be my selections. But, Max,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: do you have your underdog selection for the week?
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: My underdog selection is I'm going to go Saints over Vikings.
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: Okay. Saints over Vikings.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: Okay. Okay.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: I mean– Yeah, I mean, because I feel like it's
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: a rock fight with the Vikings. They're not showing anything
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: that lets me believe that that 4-0 is a real number.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: And I think, you know, for the Saints, you know,
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: Tyler Shuck is still, you know, figuring himself out, but
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: he's doing a good job along the way. And then
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: Chris Olave, you know, Chris Olave is, you know, got
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: almost 500 yards receiving. So I think they have some pieces,
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: and I think if there's any game to be an
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: upset is to take this team lightly if you're the
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Minnesota Vikings.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: That's interesting.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: It's interesting, and you're a 4-0 Vikings team, and you're
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: only a 2.5-point favorite against a 1-3 team, which I
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: think says something about the Saints because they've scrapped.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: They've scrapped, and they've been in there.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: The other game, you know, Willie, that– by the way,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: did you grow up a Giants or Jets guy in
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: New York?
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: I grew up a Giants fan, diehard Lawrence Taylor fan.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: You know this, Rob, because, I mean, you're from New York,
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: but you're up top where the mountains are. We– it's
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: broken up by boroughs, you know, so usually if you're
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: from the Bronx or Harlem, you're a Giants fan. If
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: you're from Queens or Brooklyn, sometimes you're a Jets fan.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: Brooklyn is a Giants as well. So, Queens, Staten Island
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: are definitely Jets fans. So, me being from the Bronx,
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: I grew up a diehard Giants fan. Loved Lawrence Taylor,
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: Leonard Marshall, that whole defense. Carl Banks, Pepper Johnson. So,
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: that whole squad, big Bavaro fan.
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: Loved him as well.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, great player.
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: Hostella Sims, all that. Rodney Hampton. You can go on
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: and on. Yep.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Well, that was my team growing up, too, by the way.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I think I saw every game Lawrence Taylor played.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow. Harry Carson.
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: Harry Carson, yeah.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, John Mendenhall. I go back a little further.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: John Mendenhall along that defensive line was a heck of
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: a player. It was a real defensive in those years,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: a real defensive, low-scoring type of division. You had the
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Hogs with Washington. They were going to play a certain way.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: The Giants had that great defense. You know, Philadelphia had
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: some talent, but everybody in that defense was hard-hitting. That
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: was a good– if you like defense, that was a
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: good division.
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: To root for.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. I just wanted to know.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: And it brought me– I ask that because I'm– we
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: have just– we just got finished talking about the NFC East,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: and I didn't realize this because.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: They weren't my pick.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: The Washington Commanders are four-and-a-half-point favorites over the Giants, who
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: are three-and-one.
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Four and a half point favorites.
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: What?
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Very, very.
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: They don't believe in the James Winston experience.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Very tempted to pick the Giants.
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: They really don't.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: But they weren't my pick because I didn't realize that.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I didn't see that. So my pick's already in. And
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I don't want to go with that. No, you know what?
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I'm changing my pick. Oh, you're going to take it now.
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: You know why?
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Because my pick was the Browns. I think the Browns
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: are going to beat the Jets. And the Jets are.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Two and a half point favorites. I think the Browns
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: are going to win the game.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: I really do.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: But I don't want to pick the Browns. All right.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Justin Miller's giving me the side eye. Justin, do I
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: go with my original? Do I go with my original?
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Do I go with the Browns over the Jets? I'm
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: getting the head nod. I hate to do it, but
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: I'm going to pick the Browns over the Jets.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I'm going to pick the Browns over the Jets. I
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: just don't think that– I'm not– I just– I think
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: the Browns are pretty good, and I don't think the
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Jets are.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: What's that?
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: It's supposed to be rainy in MetLife. It's supposed to
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: be rainy and cold.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's brown weather, so what am I saying?
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Well, the other thing is, I mean, that's a reason
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: to like the Giants in D.C. That game might be 3-0,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: you know, with the weather conditions you have there.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: But I'm going.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: To pick the Browns. So you got them duly noted, Justin.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I got the Browns. Willie, who's your pick again? I'm
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: going with the Raiders.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: The Raiders.
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: Las Vegas.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: And, Max, you got the Saints.
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: I got the Saints.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: I have to say something else, too, before we go
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: to the break, guys.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: You know, when I look at the Colts on paper,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like, eh, you know, they don't really– I mean,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I like Jonathan Taylor, obviously. I like DeForest Buckner. I
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: don't get that excited. So, Willie, over the course of
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: the week, I will– parse out because my main job
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: obviously the one I got to be good at hopefully
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: hopefully is Sunday right calling the game so I try
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: to watch the watch a game or two I'll watch
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the preseason games especially early because then that's where you
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: see all the guys are going to be on special
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: teams play more right and that then I build my
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: way up through the week trying to watch a game
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: and then as we get later I'll probably watch two
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: games a week but there's not that much inventory right
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: now so I've only watched the first three Colts games
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: now I watched part of the last week game but
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I've already flushed it from my memory. The Colts, who
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: on paper I'm like, eh, they should have beat the Chiefs.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: They should have won that game. And they should have
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: pounded Houston if it wasn't for the Daniel Jones turnovers,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: and I know that's part of his game. I'm beginning
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: to think this Colts team might be a little bit
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: better than I was thinking at the beginning of the week.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Offensively, yeah.
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: Defensively, no. And I forgot the insider we had on.
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: Matt Taylor.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the play-by-play guy.
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Matt Taylor. Credit him. He was amazing.
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: He was really insightful and did a hell of a job. Nevertheless, man,
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: the secondaries is really poor.
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: For the Colts.
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: You know, Sauce Gardner's had a really bad outing last Sunday.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: I think we highlighted that. Their linebacker core is made
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: at best. Their defensive line, which is going to be
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: a big test for our offensive line, considering what our
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: offensive line put.
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: On tape last week. And that's where the game's going
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: to be won, Rob. I agree. To be honest with you, Max.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: The skills are going to be the skills, and Aaron's
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: going to be Aaron's. But if our offensive line comes
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: to play, then we should be fine. But if they don't,
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: it could be a long, rough day for our offensive line.
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: So if there was one matchup to watch once again,
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: it's definitely the Steelers' offensive line against DeForest Bruckner and
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: their defensive line.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Totally agree. I like Grover Stewart. I think he's a
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: good player.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: And they've got a lot of edge guys, and they
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: will bring a lot of blitzes If the Steelers can't
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  Speaker 2: pick him up, which has been an issue, I think
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: you nailed it, Willie. We're going to have our keys
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  Speaker 2: to the game, our big-time matchup of the game, as
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: we get you ready for the Steelers and the Colts.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Up next, you're going to hear from Missy Matthews, who's
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  Speaker 2: going to join us in the locker room here on
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  Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network.