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NFL REPORT: Bigger News: Who Has the best chance to defeat the 49ers & Ravens in the playoffs & what’s wrong with the Eagles? · NFL Game Previews

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Speaker 1: This is Gabe Davis with the Buffalo Bills and this
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Speaker 1: is the NFL Report.
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Speaker 2: Welcome into a brand new Tuesday edition of the NFL Report.
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Speaker 2: James Palmer, Steve Whitch with you. We have a slam show.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna get Tory Holt into the Hall of Fame. Steve,
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Speaker 2: We're continuing to stump to get the wide receiver from
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Speaker 2: the greatest show on Turf into the Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 2: He's gonna join us today on the NFL Report. Mark
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Speaker 2: Ross is gonna break down what's going on at the
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Speaker 2: top of the draft. What should the Bears do a
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Speaker 2: front office perspective, pull back the curtain there.
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Speaker 3: Omar Rowiez was at that Cardinals and Eagles game.
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Speaker 2: He's gonna tell us about what's going on in that
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Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles locker room. Also, the NFL Reports insider Mike
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Speaker 2: Garriffolo gonna join us about maybe some possible head coach
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Speaker 2: openings that are on the horizon. But Steve, let's start
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Speaker 2: with the playoff picture. It's starting to come in through
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Speaker 2: two fruition here. Look at what we have. Starting with
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Speaker 2: the NFC, we have a couple of divisions still up
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Speaker 2: for grabs. Have been clinched yet, but we do know
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Speaker 2: the number one spot that's not moving. We know the
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Speaker 2: Cowboys can clinch the NFC East. The Lions could be
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Speaker 2: the two or the three. The Eagles could be the
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Speaker 2: five or the two. There's some still some shuffling that
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Speaker 2: could happen within the NFC.
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Speaker 4: Steve, Yeah, absolutely, JP, And like you said, there's only
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Speaker 4: two spots available, but we're still unknown who's gonna win
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Speaker 4: the NFC South and who's gonna win the NFC East
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Speaker 4: and JP a little bit later, we're also gonna have
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Speaker 4: Jeff Shadia on with his first Read column, and we're
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Speaker 4: gonna have that conversation as well. But since it's twenty
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Speaker 4: twenty four and it's New Year's Resolutions, let's see if
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Speaker 4: some of those teams who are coming after the number
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Speaker 4: one seeded forty nine ers can make a resolution to
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Speaker 4: possibly beat them. James, let's think for them. Do you
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Speaker 4: have any team of the NFC who might be able
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Speaker 4: to get past the Niners who have the Super Bowl
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Speaker 4: or the NFC's rots of the Super Bowl coming through
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Speaker 4: Santa Clara.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Detroit Lions, and it's for
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Speaker 2: two major reasons. One Steve, they had that game one
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Speaker 2: in Dallas where Dallas plays so well. A side of
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Speaker 2: the fact of the way things ended with the officiating,
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Speaker 2: but I do think with the way that happened and
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Speaker 2: the type of coach that Dan Campbell is, he might
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Speaker 2: use this as motivation propelling them into the playoffs and.
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Speaker 1: How they move forward.
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Speaker 2: He did it last year when they started one and six,
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Speaker 2: then they go eight and two.
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Speaker 1: What do they do?
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Speaker 2: They use that end of the season to propel them
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Speaker 2: into this year. They haven't lost back to back games
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Speaker 2: this season. That's one thing I've always noticed with this
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Speaker 2: group is when they have adversity, they get blown out
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Speaker 2: by the Ravens. What ends up happening they win the
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Speaker 2: next three. The other part of it, Steve, is that
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Speaker 2: I do feel like with all the weapons they have,
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Speaker 2: Sam Laporta playing dominant tight end as a rookie, you
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Speaker 2: have Amar Saint Brown that's dominating over thirteen hundred yards
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Speaker 2: as a wide receiver, two backs over a thousand scrimmage yards.
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Speaker 2: You have the ability to score points, score them quickly,
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Speaker 2: score them early, and if you can make the forty
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Speaker 2: nine ers play from behind, perhaps that's where the Lions
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Speaker 2: could find some success if they can get out early,
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Speaker 2: if this matchup ends up happening. And the other last
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Speaker 2: part of it is Steve. They have a very underrated
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Speaker 2: offensive line, which you need to play good offensive line
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Speaker 2: football against this forty nine ers defensive front. They're good
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Speaker 2: in the trenches, they're physical. Maybe this would be the
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Speaker 2: team I would pick, but man.
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Speaker 3: San Francisco looks good right now. Bouncing back.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be hard for anybody to get through
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Speaker 4: the forty nine ers, as deep as they are. They're
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Speaker 4: gonna have some time to rest and heal up because
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Speaker 4: they've got that buy.
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Speaker 5: Probably aren't gonna play. They're players Week eighteen. But you
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Speaker 5: know what, I'm gonna talk about the La Rams having
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Speaker 5: the best shot.
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Speaker 4: And it sounds crazy because the Niners have basically bought
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Speaker 4: a block of property on the La Rams heads and
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Speaker 4: beaten them eight out of the last nine times, but
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Speaker 4: jp the majority of those wins have been one possession games.
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Speaker 4: These teams know each other well, so I think that
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Speaker 4: familiarity gives the Rams. If there is an advantage to
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Speaker 4: have from other these challengers in the NFC, it's that familiarity, right,
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Speaker 4: And because they know each other so well, the coaches,
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Speaker 4: a lot of the players, and the fact that you
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Speaker 4: mentioned with Detroit. The Rams have the offensive weapons, especially
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Speaker 4: a wide receiver and now Kyrin Williams in the running
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Speaker 4: game to get out to a lead and to make.
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Speaker 5: The forty nine ers play from behind.
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Speaker 4: Now, one thing about the Rams also, their defense isn't
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Speaker 4: bend but don't break defense.
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Speaker 5: They find ways to come up with timely stops.
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Speaker 4: Which will be very important against the forty nine ers. Now,
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Speaker 4: I'm not picking Dallas either, one of us did. Dallas's
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Speaker 4: ability to stop the run. I think it will be
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Speaker 4: a huge issue playing a team like the forty nine ers.
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Speaker 4: We saw how the Niners boat raced him earlier this season.
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Speaker 5: So I'm going to.
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Speaker 4: Stay within the division and if they meet for a
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Speaker 4: third time, that will be the case. All right, Now,
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Speaker 4: let's flip it over to the AFC. Let's look at
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Speaker 4: the playoff picture there where the Bulkimore Ravens have secured
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Speaker 4: with authority the number one seed, but you see Miami
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Speaker 4: at number two. Miami's a number two, but right now
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Speaker 4: they could lose that. They could flip with the Buffalo Bills.
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Speaker 4: They've got a huge Sunday night head to head clash
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Speaker 4: where you see a team like the Cleveland Browns.
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Speaker 5: They've secured a spot. The Chiefs have secure here at
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Speaker 5: the spot this weekend.
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Speaker 4: But there are three open playoff positions in the AFC.
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Speaker 4: So JP, let's go back to these Baltimore Ravens. They're
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Speaker 4: the top seed. Let's go back to this New Year's resolution.
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Speaker 4: Is there any team the AFC that can be a
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Speaker 4: team like the Ravens, which is absolutely destroying anyone they
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Speaker 4: encounter lately.
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Speaker 2: This might sound crazy, Steve, but I'm picking a team
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Speaker 2: that's not even certain to be in the postseason. They
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Speaker 2: could wind up the two, they could wind up in
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Speaker 2: the back end of the postseason, they could be out.
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Speaker 2: That's the Buffalo Bills. And I think it's solely because
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Speaker 2: of Josh Allen. I think Lamar Jackson is probably the
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Speaker 2: front runner for the MVP. You know who might finish
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Speaker 2: as the runner up when everything is said and done,
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Speaker 2: It might be Josh Allen.
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Speaker 3: And I think if you look through.
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Speaker 2: All of the postseason, you look at all of those teams,
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Speaker 2: ask every defensive coordinator what's a quarterback you don't want
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Speaker 2: to face. I would say Josh Allen's probably pretty high
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Speaker 2: on a lot of these defensive coordinators lists, and I
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Speaker 2: think the reason why they have a shot to do
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Speaker 2: this if they end up matching up with one another,
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Speaker 2: is because of Josh All's ability to make defenses play
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Speaker 2: the second play. We talk about that so much with
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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. You talk about it with Josh Allen that
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Speaker 2: the first play is what's on schedule, the second play,
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Speaker 2: which is what's off schedule when a defense has to
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Speaker 2: play longer.
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Speaker 1: That's what Josh Allen does.
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Speaker 2: And I want to see more twelve personnel out of
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Speaker 2: this team, Steve. I want to see Dalton and Kid.
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Speaker 2: I want to see Dawson Knox on the field. At
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Speaker 2: the same time. I want to see them put teams
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Speaker 2: in binds. But I also see them run the football
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Speaker 2: so well. We saw them run the football and lean
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Speaker 2: on it this past week in the second half. What
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Speaker 2: does that do that keeps Samar Jackson off the field.
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Speaker 2: I think they're balanced. I think this defense right now,
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Speaker 2: as we talk about a team that nobody wants to play,
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Speaker 2: we keep saying that's the Bills. I think the defense
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Speaker 2: is actually a big part of that as well. With
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Speaker 2: the way they're playing up front and on the back end,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to say the Bills are probably the team
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Speaker 2: built to go and maybe take down the Ravens, who
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Speaker 2: I just don't know like saying that sentence, Steve, because
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Speaker 2: the Ravens are so good right now.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I look, no one's gonna have any issue with
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Speaker 4: you're saying the Buffalo Bills because they've got the experience
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Speaker 4: and they've got the players to possibly make against the Ravens.
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Speaker 4: You know, it's a shame. A couple of weeks ago,
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Speaker 4: he probably would have said the Dolphins. But the fact
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Speaker 4: that both of their edge rushers now with Bradley Chubb
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Speaker 4: down for the season Jalen Phillips out, that really hampers
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Speaker 4: them against a team like the Ravens.
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Speaker 5: Here's one for you.
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Speaker 4: You know, the last time the Ravens lost what he
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Speaker 4: got it was November twelfth, you know who They lost
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Speaker 4: to the Cleveland Browns, and that was before Jojoe Black.
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Speaker 4: The Cleveland Browns can be the team that could upset
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Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens. As crazy as it sounds, but again,
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Speaker 4: I'm going back to familiarity. They know this would be
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Speaker 4: the third time both teams will have played each other.
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Speaker 4: Should they face off in the playoffs, so it works
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Speaker 4: for both sides. But that defense that Cleveland continues to
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Speaker 4: put together, they actually have players that can spy Lamar
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Speaker 4: Jackson and still do their jobs, like linebacker Jeremiah Wuso Coramora.
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Speaker 5: J Okay as he's doing, he could play that spiral right.
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Speaker 4: So this is this to me, is an intriguing matchup
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Speaker 4: and with Joe Flacco has been able to do to
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Speaker 4: open up that passing game, to let the Browns and
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Speaker 4: that pretty good offensive line do what they do in
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Speaker 4: a quick passing game, moving pocket passing game, to do
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Speaker 4: some things that way. I just look at all of
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Speaker 4: these other teams and outside of the Bills, and I'm
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Speaker 4: with you on the Bills, I think Cleveland probably has
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Speaker 4: the best shot. Those injuries are a problem. Go ahead,
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Speaker 4: and I can't believe I'm not saying Kansas City either.
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
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Speaker 1: I love that you're saying this really quick.
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Speaker 2: I just want to say, remember twenty nineteen, the last
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Speaker 2: time the Ravens had a buy in the postseason and
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Speaker 2: Lamar won the MVP, they were knocked out in the
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Speaker 2: first round. They were knocked out in the divisional round
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Speaker 2: by the Tennessee Titans. What if Joe Flacco goes in
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Speaker 2: former Baltimore Fish and Laura is the MVP and a
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Speaker 2: first round by and Joe Flacco knocks him out.
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Speaker 1: Steve to juicy, it's too juicy. It has to happen.
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Speaker 1: It has to happen.
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Speaker 5: Well, look, you know what else is juicy.
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Speaker 4: Neither one of us said the Eagles will be threatening No.
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Speaker 4: Forty nine ers in the NFC. Coming up next, we
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Speaker 4: are going to look at the dysfunction of the operation
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Speaker 4: on both sides of the balls. Mike Ghiriflo and Omar
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Speaker 4: Ruiz joined the NFL Report and it's also podcast. People
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Speaker 4: make sure to listen. All right, welcome back to the
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Speaker 4: NFL Report. I'm Steve White's my guy, James Palmer JP.
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Speaker 4: We are now joined by NFL Network insider, Mike Gharrafolo,
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Speaker 4: Mike G. Happy four, that's right, and the insiders NFL
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Speaker 4: Reports insider, but Mike G twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 5: We always know, as happy as people are to get
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Speaker 5: to the new.
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Speaker 4: Year, there's a handful of coaches who will no longer
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Speaker 4: be head coaches not long after each New year. But well,
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Speaker 4: let let's get to this because We're less than a
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Speaker 4: week away from probably a lot of decisions being made.
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Speaker 4: Some might already be made, but it's not made public.
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Speaker 4: From folks I'm speaking to, they're not thinking that there's
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Speaker 4: gonna be ten coach firings like a lot of folks
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Speaker 4: were assuming a month to go.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're probably south of that. But we'll have a
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Speaker 6: nice solid chunk to work with Steve.
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Speaker 1: We always do.
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Speaker 6: It's very rare if you're you know, under five. I
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Speaker 6: don't think we'll be there. We're in the We're in
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Speaker 6: the five to six, seven, eight range potentially, and we're
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Speaker 6: looking at a couple of really cornerstone guys. And I
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Speaker 6: thought a couple of weeks ago Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick,
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Speaker 6: we may be come to the end of both of
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Speaker 6: those tenures. Not so sure on either one of them
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Speaker 6: right now. And I'll start with Belichick. Yeah, I'll start
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Speaker 6: with Belichick. You know, there's still going to be a
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Speaker 6: conversation between him and Robert Kraft about the direction of
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Speaker 6: the franchise. I know that my senses, Craft would not
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Speaker 6: would prefer to not fire him right like, would prefer
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Speaker 6: for him to continue to be the coach of the Patriots.
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Speaker 6: And get the record for most coaches or for most
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Speaker 6: wins for a coach as a New England Patriots coach.
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Speaker 6: I got the sense from someone who seemed to have
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Speaker 6: a little bit of a beat on this. And look,
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Speaker 6: nobody really knows except Robert Jonathan Craft and maybe a
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Speaker 6: few select few others within the Patriots organization. But I
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Speaker 6: got the sense from someone who has sort of a
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Speaker 6: beat on this that Belichick could potentially present to Craft
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Speaker 6: here's my plan moving forward. Does he take a step
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Speaker 6: back from personnel, allow someone else to handle that part
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Speaker 6: of his job since that's been a big part of
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Speaker 6: it for twenty years, and could he potentially stick around
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Speaker 6: maybe stay tuned.
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Speaker 4: And then ask Mike though, real quick though, Michael, if
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Speaker 4: you're talking about that scenario, you're talking about two seasons
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Speaker 4: for Belichick to get that record. I mean for him
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Speaker 4: to knock out in one season would seem highly improbable.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, potentially, But you know, out there in a position
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Speaker 6: draft wise to get themselves a quarterback and all of
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Speaker 6: a sudden, doesn't that change things? Like if you get
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Speaker 6: the it's the offensive side of the ball, Steve, that's
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Speaker 6: what it is. I mean, they're still playing good defense,
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Speaker 6: they're still playing smart, they're still playing hard.
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Speaker 5: It's not a question of those things.
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Speaker 6: And speaking of playing hard, those players are going to
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Speaker 6: take the field on Sunday in Foxborough against the Jets,
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Speaker 6: not knowing if that's going to Belichick's last game. I
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Speaker 6: would be utterly floored if the Patriots lose this game, Like,
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Speaker 6: how could you send him out.
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Speaker 5: Potentially with a loss to the get right?
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Speaker 6: So I know that game really doesn't matter for playoff standings,
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Speaker 6: but it'll matter for some folks who are into some
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Speaker 6: other things.
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Speaker 1: You know, just let you know that. You may want
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Speaker 1: to look at the Patriots.
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Speaker 6: In that one, but you know, yeah, I it's it's
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Speaker 6: if you get yourself a quarterback and you whether it's
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Speaker 6: Bill O'Brien or somebody else, as they proven offensive coordinator,
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Speaker 6: suddenly things can look a little bit different. But I
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Speaker 6: do think he needs some help on the personnel end,
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Speaker 6: and Dave Ziggler's free these days. He was in New
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Speaker 6: England previously. Yeah, there are a couple other options. You
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Speaker 6: can bring some guys in.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned the veteran coaches, Mike, you mentioned kind of
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Speaker 2: you know, Bill Belichick, you mentioned Pete Carroll. They've been
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Speaker 2: there for a long time. The third one, there was
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Speaker 2: some rumblings, but you didn't mention him there.
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Speaker 3: And Mike Tomlin, I just want to throw this scenario
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Speaker 3: out there and tell me what's what.
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Speaker 2: If one of these teams that is just desperate for
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Speaker 2: his services calls up the Steelers and says, we want
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Speaker 2: to trade for Mike Tomlin. We want to offer him
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Speaker 2: blank the Steelers have to tell him right like, where
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Speaker 2: do things stand in Pittsburgh right now with Mike Tomlin,
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Speaker 2: Because this is the first time we're starting to hear
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Speaker 2: little rumblings about is it time? Would he ever be
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Speaker 2: interested in leaving himself?
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Speaker 3: Though? I don't believe so.
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Speaker 6: I think he certainly loves his job, and he certainly
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Speaker 6: loves the organization, and he knows what it's like to
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Speaker 6: be the head coach of a cornerstone franchise in the NFL.
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Speaker 6: I haven't gotten any inkling that he's looking to move on.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 6: He's gonna have to conduct a offensive coordinator search this
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Speaker 6: off season. He's had Mike Sullivan in the role, and
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Speaker 6: Sullivan and the offensive looked a lot better the last
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Speaker 6: couple of weeks with Mason Rudolph, So I'm sure he'll
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Speaker 6: at least get consideration for the job right now, So
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Speaker 6: potentially you could see a little bit of a different
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Speaker 6: look offensively for the Steelers in twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 3: But you know, and I know the argument here right.
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Speaker 6: Like, you could have nine to ten wins guaranteed every
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Speaker 6: single year, but you're in it to win the Super Bowl,
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Speaker 6: right and the Steelers just haven't knocked on that door recently. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: I know a lot of other franchises would say, hey,
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Speaker 6: we'd love to have the sustained success the Steelers have
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Speaker 6: had him. Be in the postseason, be in the tournament
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Speaker 6: like they like to call it, every single year, because
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Speaker 6: that gives you a chance. I don't think we're looking
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Speaker 6: at the Steelers team this year and say, well, if
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Speaker 6: they get in with one more victory here, oh that's
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Speaker 6: a team you don't want to see. We're not fashioning
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Speaker 6: a run here for the Steelers in the postseason, so
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Speaker 6: they're not going.
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Speaker 1: To get to that point.
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Speaker 6: And so now you're going to have that conversation of
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Speaker 6: are we just continuing to be middling with Mike Tomlin.
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Speaker 6: I do get the sense the Steelers are going to
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Speaker 6: stand pat with Tomlin as their head coach in twenty
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Speaker 6: four barring some kind of unpreseen change here.
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Speaker 4: All right, we're going a little tight on time, but
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Speaker 4: the NFC South could dictate some head coaching futures.
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Speaker 5: What happens is week eighteen.
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Speaker 4: You've got Arthur Smith with the Falcons, Todd Bowles with
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Speaker 4: the Buccaneers, and Dennis Allen with the Saints.
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Speaker 5: What does it seem like with those three because they
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Speaker 5: all three could be kept?
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Speaker 3: Are they all three?
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Speaker 5: Or at least two or the three might be gone.
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Speaker 6: I believe Arthur Smith is on the shakiest of grounds.
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Speaker 6: Arthur Blank the owner, did indicate that you know, he's
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Speaker 6: leaning or he was leaning toward keeping him, but that
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Speaker 6: was a couple of weeks ago. I wanted to see
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Speaker 6: how things play out. If they don't play well against
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Speaker 6: New Orleans Saints, it does feel like it could be
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Speaker 6: time for Arthur Smith, who made a big bet on
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Speaker 6: Desmond Ritter that did not pay off this season.
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Speaker 3: Right now.
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Speaker 6: As for Todd Bowles and Dave Canalis, the offensive coordinator,
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Speaker 6: I think they've already Hey should already be in the
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Speaker 6: barn there. I mean, this was a team that knew
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Speaker 6: they were going to pair this thing down this season.
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Speaker 6: We're not going to spend We're gonna get their books
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Speaker 6: back in order. And for this team to be on
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Speaker 6: the verge of you know, just beat the Panthers. Beat
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Speaker 6: the Panthers, you're in the postseason. That should shut the door.
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Speaker 6: Not only number one, not only will that shut the
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Speaker 6: door on potentially to the Buccaneers moving on from Todd Bowles,
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Speaker 6: but number two, it makes Dave Canalis a sneaky I
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Speaker 6: say sneaky head coaching candidate. And I say sneaky because
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Speaker 6: I don't think he gets himself a job this season,
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Speaker 6: but he gets himself some interviews and don't.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he fulfills a Rooney rule.
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Speaker 6: Requirement because he is a minority interview, which is.
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Speaker 1: Not why he's gonna get interview.
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Speaker 6: He's gonna get interview because he's an exciting, energetic young
16:06
Speaker 6: coach who had some good offensive schemes that he brought
16:10
Speaker 6: down there and some good offensive coaching down there. So
16:13
Speaker 6: he will get some interviews down there. And as for
16:15
Speaker 6: Dennis Allen, all indications are they're going to continue with
16:18
Speaker 6: him as the head coach. I'd like to see what
16:20
Speaker 6: they're going to do to reset down there, because they're
16:22
Speaker 6: going to have to make some hard decisions from a
16:24
Speaker 6: personnel standpoint, But it seems like they're clicking.
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Speaker 1: At the right time.
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Speaker 3: It may be too late, but they are clicking at
16:29
Speaker 3: the right time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, nuts, Mike is going to be absolutely slammed for
16:33
Speaker 2: the next week.
16:34
Speaker 3: Guys.
16:34
Speaker 2: Just to let you know, Steve, Mike will if you
16:36
Speaker 2: want to contact him, do it now because he's going
16:39
Speaker 2: to be busy leading up till Monday.
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Speaker 1: Mike, you do well.
16:42
Speaker 5: Appreciate you, bro.
16:43
Speaker 2: You got it, guys, Thank you. All right, check out
16:46
Speaker 2: this Steve. Eagles made a change as their defensive coordinator.
16:49
Speaker 2: Oh boy, they go from Sean Decai to Matt Patricia.
16:53
Speaker 2: Things haven't been great since the switch and Matt Patricia
16:57
Speaker 2: running this defense.
16:58
Speaker 3: We look at where they're at right now.
17:00
Speaker 2: They haven't gotten turke aways really all season long, but
17:02
Speaker 2: still haven't really been able to do it. Omar Ruiz,
17:04
Speaker 2: Steve was at this game with the Arizona Cardinals coming
17:08
Speaker 2: into the link with their head coach Jonathan Gannon, former
17:11
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator for the Philadelphia Eagles, and they go and
17:15
Speaker 2: just run up and down the field at the link. Omar,
17:19
Speaker 2: there is not going to be another change. We know
17:22
Speaker 2: that it's going to be Matt Patricia moving forward. They're
17:24
Speaker 2: not going back to Sean Deci. But what is wrong
17:27
Speaker 2: with this Eagles defense? And is it essentially something that
17:31
Speaker 2: can't be fixed? What did you gather in Philadelphia?
17:35
Speaker 3: Yeah?
17:36
Speaker 7: What I gather is they don't know. I mean, there
17:38
Speaker 7: are no specific answers to those questions. And they've been
17:40
Speaker 7: asking him for several weeks now.
17:42
Speaker 4: Oh.
17:42
Speaker 7: I asked Jalen Hurts the other day after the game
17:45
Speaker 7: on Sunday, why they haven't been closing the last couple losses.
17:48
Speaker 7: Obviously they had the last second touchdown by Drew Lock
17:51
Speaker 7: and the Seattle Seahawks on Monday Night Football to lose
17:54
Speaker 7: that game, and then obviously this one, Kyler Murray and
17:56
Speaker 7: James Connor the game winning touchdown in the final minute
17:59
Speaker 7: to lose that. And all Hurts could offer was they
18:02
Speaker 7: just got to use that as learning lessons, stick together,
18:05
Speaker 7: have that sense of urgency to get better. Now, Brandon
18:07
Speaker 7: Graham did have some specifics, and he pointed to the
18:10
Speaker 7: injuries on the team. Avante Maddox came back after missing
18:14
Speaker 7: some time. He had that mistackle against Greg Dorts that
18:17
Speaker 7: allowed Doors to get inside the ten and led to
18:19
Speaker 7: the game winning touchdown, and he said, next time Maddox
18:22
Speaker 7: is in that position in the playoffs, he's going to
18:24
Speaker 7: make that play. They had Nick Morrow, their linebacker. He
18:27
Speaker 7: just came back. Zach Cunningham ought to be back soon.
18:29
Speaker 7: Another linebacker, Darius Slay, one of the best corners in football.
18:33
Speaker 1: He should be back soon.
18:34
Speaker 7: So when they get healthy, that ought to make a
18:36
Speaker 7: difference on defense. But Nick Siriani was asked yesterday is
18:40
Speaker 7: how the weight of the season is getting on these
18:43
Speaker 7: Eagles and he said, well, that's just expectations. They know
18:46
Speaker 7: what this operation looks like. Remember last year. Obviously they
18:49
Speaker 7: were just a few minutes away from winning.
18:51
Speaker 3: The Super Bowl.
18:52
Speaker 7: There's that dors play I was telling you about. And
18:54
Speaker 7: because they got so close, they are so hungry. They
18:57
Speaker 7: are putting pressure on themselves, more pressure than any outside
19:03
Speaker 7: of the locker room can provide. So they're looking to
19:05
Speaker 7: get it fixed. And I will provide some history here
19:08
Speaker 7: all this. You know Joe Flacco talk, he's been in
19:11
Speaker 7: the news. It reminds me of that twenty twelve season
19:13
Speaker 7: with the Ravens. This is an Eagles team that's still
19:16
Speaker 7: loaded with talent. But if you remember that Ravens team
19:18
Speaker 7: in twenty twelve. They lost four out of five heading
19:21
Speaker 7: into the postseason, and then Joe Flacco and the rest
19:23
Speaker 7: of them got hot and they went wild. They won
19:25
Speaker 7: the Super Bowl. So the Eagles still believe that the
19:28
Speaker 7: answers are in their locker room. They just don't know
19:29
Speaker 7: what they are right now. But history does show that
19:32
Speaker 7: a team that's talented can put it together and make
19:34
Speaker 7: a run here in the postseason. They think they can.
19:36
Speaker 5: That's a real good comparison.
19:37
Speaker 4: One huge difference I would say is there were no
19:40
Speaker 4: questions about that coaching staff in Baltimore.
19:43
Speaker 5: That staff was.
19:44
Speaker 4: Absolutely loaded and stacked on both sides of the ball.
19:49
Speaker 7: Well, Omar, go ahead, but you remember, Steve, they made
19:52
Speaker 7: it hold on. They made a change at offensive coordinator.
19:54
Speaker 7: Remember they fired Cam Cameron, they brought Jim Calswell. There
19:57
Speaker 7: were questions there, and they figured it out.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and they figured out with the right guy and
20:02
Speaker 4: Jim Caldwell. So you know, and that's what I'm saying
20:05
Speaker 4: so exactly. You know, they pulled the trigger at the
20:07
Speaker 4: right time and it worked. Look, getting back to the
20:09
Speaker 4: Super Bowl is always tough. We're seeing some of the
20:12
Speaker 4: struggles that every team has getting back Kansas City some
20:14
Speaker 4: of the struggles they're going case Lomar, I want to
20:18
Speaker 4: flip over to Arizona because they did score four times
20:21
Speaker 4: there in the second half to come back and upset.
20:24
Speaker 4: And from what we have seen, this is not a
20:26
Speaker 4: good team. They're gonna be picking at the top end
20:28
Speaker 4: of the draft. But quarterback Kyler Murray, since he has
20:30
Speaker 4: come back from that knee injury, Omar, this has looked
20:34
Speaker 4: like a different offense.
20:36
Speaker 3: Right.
20:36
Speaker 4: Are the Arizona Cardinals you live in Arizona around this team.
20:40
Speaker 4: Are they sold that Kyler is going to be their
20:42
Speaker 4: guy moving forward?
20:44
Speaker 3: Yeah?
20:44
Speaker 7: From every conversation I've had, Kyler Murray certainly is their
20:48
Speaker 7: franchise quarterback. And I think bigger picture, this ought to
20:52
Speaker 7: be one of those performances that Kyler Murray puts to
20:55
Speaker 7: rest that narrative that he doesn't prepare, that he's not
20:59
Speaker 7: putting in the work behind the scenes and studying tape.
21:03
Speaker 7: Because I spoke with offensive coordinator Drew Petsing yesterday and
21:07
Speaker 7: that's all Kyler Murray could do last week was prepare
21:10
Speaker 7: watch film at ten meetings.
21:12
Speaker 3: He was sick all week long.
21:14
Speaker 7: He only practiced in a limited role on Friday, but
21:17
Speaker 7: he was in every meeting, even on Zoom when he
21:19
Speaker 7: wasn't in the building on Wednesday and Thursday, and that
21:22
Speaker 7: allowed him to play the way he did that twenty
21:26
Speaker 7: five of thirty one, two hundred thirty two yards, three touchdowns,
21:30
Speaker 7: and to come back from that pick six. Remember he
21:32
Speaker 7: had that pick six, Sydney Brown took it back ninety
21:34
Speaker 7: nine yards and they didn't.
21:35
Speaker 1: Buckle after that.
21:36
Speaker 7: He stayed put and he had the wow plays, the
21:39
Speaker 7: James Connor touchdown pass, one of those thrilling Kyler Murray plays,
21:43
Speaker 7: and Petsing says, those are always going to be there.
21:45
Speaker 7: What he was most impressed by Kyler Murray was doing
21:49
Speaker 7: the easy plays, making an incompletion instead of taking a sack,
21:53
Speaker 7: staying in rhythm, finding the easy outlets.
21:56
Speaker 1: Those are the.
21:56
Speaker 7: Things that are sustainable for this offense. Those are the
21:59
Speaker 7: things they can build around and the big picture within
22:01
Speaker 7: the team. Remember, we talked to Jonathan Gannon in training
22:04
Speaker 7: camp and he talked about being process driven. Ultimately knows
22:06
Speaker 7: he's judged by the results that they have, but they're
22:09
Speaker 7: focused on the process and when they get a big
22:11
Speaker 7: win in Philadelphia, the way they got a big win
22:14
Speaker 7: in Pittsburgh a couple of weeks ago, the way they
22:15
Speaker 7: beat the loaded Dallas Cowboys earlier in the season. Those
22:18
Speaker 7: are all wins that validate the process that they're going
22:21
Speaker 7: through instilling that program. And when you look at the Cardinals,
22:25
Speaker 7: they have a NFL high eleven rookies that have started
22:28
Speaker 7: for them this year, So consistency is always an issue
22:33
Speaker 7: when he played that many young players, but obviously they're
22:35
Speaker 7: building that foundation. These wins can go a long way
22:38
Speaker 7: to what could be a turnaround season in twenty twenty four.
22:41
Speaker 2: Arno marser in under thirty seconds, tell me what do
22:43
Speaker 2: they do with pick number four? Are they protecting Kyler Murray?
22:46
Speaker 2: Giving him a weapon, trading back? What's going to happen?
22:51
Speaker 7: I say they give him a weapon obviously. You know,
22:53
Speaker 7: once DeAndre Hopkins left this past season, you know, things
22:57
Speaker 7: haven't been the same. Hollywood Brown's been in and out
22:59
Speaker 7: of the line up. But I think the way Trey
23:01
Speaker 7: McBride has come on at tight end, the way James
23:04
Speaker 7: Connor and I about Michael Carter there as the one
23:07
Speaker 7: two punch on Sunday to provide some you know, weapons
23:09
Speaker 7: on the ground. That was another thing Petstein said that
23:11
Speaker 7: the attitude that they've had developing the offense, they want
23:15
Speaker 7: to be bullies. The way they've been able to run
23:17
Speaker 7: the football all year long really has been something for them.
23:21
Speaker 7: So they can continue to develop that attitude on the ground.
23:23
Speaker 7: You give Kyler Murray some weapons to surround him, this
23:26
Speaker 7: could be one of those dark horse type of teams
23:30
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty four that back in a big.
23:32
Speaker 5: Way is called the dark horse shot.
23:34
Speaker 8: Okay, well, all right, all right, hey, it's already twenty four.
23:44
Speaker 7: It's never too early to start talking about this twenty
23:47
Speaker 7: twenty four season.
23:48
Speaker 2: There we go, Marvin Harrison Junior transforms the entire Cardinals
23:54
Speaker 2: organization into a.
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Speaker 1: Dark horse contender.
23:57
Speaker 2: Omar appreciated, buddy, all right, come, we got Mark Ross.
24:01
Speaker 2: He is gonna tell us what happens in front of
24:05
Speaker 2: that fourth overall pick? How about the number one overall pick?
24:08
Speaker 2: What do the Bears do? Is justin Field's part of
24:10
Speaker 2: the plans moving forwards. We'll see more on the NFL Report.
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24:52
Speaker 2: you know everything that goes on behind the scenes within
24:56
Speaker 2: the front office side of things in the NFL. When
24:59
Speaker 2: you're at Soldier Field on Sunday and you're hearing the
25:02
Speaker 2: fans chanting, we want Justin, we want Justin. Oh boy, dude,
25:07
Speaker 2: does Ryan Poles have a decision to make because he
25:11
Speaker 2: has been locked into the number one overall pick. What
25:15
Speaker 2: goes on right now in Chicago as they're weighing every
25:19
Speaker 2: really option they have, which also includes seeing who wants
25:23
Speaker 2: to come up possibly for that number one pick.
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Speaker 8: Well, first of all, I'm sure he heard it, but
25:28
Speaker 8: you gotta do this. You can't listen to the fans, fellows.
25:31
Speaker 8: When I the last, the first time I was in
25:33
Speaker 8: this position way back in nineteen ninety nine with the
25:36
Speaker 8: Philadelphia Eagles when we had the second pick and the
25:39
Speaker 8: fans were chaying, we want Ricky, we want Ricky Williams
25:42
Speaker 8: all the way up till draft night booth my man
25:45
Speaker 8: Donovan mcname as we drafted him.
25:47
Speaker 1: Oh we got booed who blocked out a god noise
25:51
Speaker 1: leading up to that draft.
25:52
Speaker 8: Of course they were going to come burn out Veterans
25:54
Speaker 8: Stadium if we didn't take Ricky and all that.
25:56
Speaker 1: No one's ever apologized for that.
25:58
Speaker 8: But anyway, Ryan Poles as to boone out the fans.
26:04
Speaker 1: But listen to his team.
26:05
Speaker 8: If his team and those players believe in Justin Fields,
26:08
Speaker 8: that definitely has to be take consideration. But it's really
26:12
Speaker 8: all about how the coaching staff and the scouting staff
26:15
Speaker 8: feel about Justin Fields and what they've seen from him
26:18
Speaker 8: this year and also what they think he can still contribute.
26:23
Speaker 8: But also comparing Justin Fields with that number one pick
26:26
Speaker 8: to who's coming out. It's so easy always just say, yep,
26:29
Speaker 8: there's these quarterbacks, let's take one. Well, the scouting and
26:32
Speaker 8: coaching staff may not think any of these guys are
26:34
Speaker 8: better than Justin Fields, so you have to compare him
26:36
Speaker 8: to Caleb Williams. You have to compare him to Drake
26:39
Speaker 8: May each individual quarterback that's coming out and say, Okay,
26:42
Speaker 8: it's Justin better than these guys, and then make the
26:45
Speaker 8: decision from there, or hey, if we move down and
26:48
Speaker 8: get Marvin Harrison junior, does that make Justin Fields better?
26:52
Speaker 8: So there's tons of options that they have there, whether
26:56
Speaker 8: to stick with him or to take one of those
26:59
Speaker 8: guys if they him, or move down enough to still
27:03
Speaker 8: get the quarterback that they love or want pair him
27:05
Speaker 8: with Justin Fields, or hey, trade Justin Fields get more
27:09
Speaker 8: draft capital because we've already got this this draft capital
27:12
Speaker 8: now and that second round pick that's essentially a first
27:14
Speaker 8: round pick too, So so many options at Ryan Poles's disposed.
27:18
Speaker 1: I love to be in his position. I know people
27:20
Speaker 1: are like, I wouldn't want to be Ryan Poles.
27:22
Speaker 8: I'd love to have that situation and all those options
27:24
Speaker 8: and working with your staff and coaching staff and scouting
27:27
Speaker 8: staff piecing that stuff together.
27:29
Speaker 5: Mark, you say you love to be in his position.
27:30
Speaker 4: But the one thing that it seems like he's going
27:32
Speaker 4: to be back in that ebra fluse. But whether they're
27:35
Speaker 4: back also determines what's going on. But you talked about, oh,
27:40
Speaker 4: they could trade back and do this. Let's look at
27:43
Speaker 4: some of the draft order and look at some of
27:45
Speaker 4: the teams that need quarterbacks, and then from your experience
27:48
Speaker 4: in the front office, tell us how you decide on
27:52
Speaker 4: which team you would like to go and how far
27:55
Speaker 4: back in the draft maybe you'd like to go.
27:57
Speaker 1: So let's start.
27:58
Speaker 4: Number two is the command There's number three the Patriots.
28:01
Speaker 4: Number four of the Cardinals, we don't think they need
28:03
Speaker 4: a quarterback. Number five the Giants, very interesting. The six,
28:06
Speaker 4: the Chargers, no quarterback. Seven Titans, they've got their quarterback.
28:10
Speaker 4: Eight Jets, they have their quarterback.
28:11
Speaker 5: Maybe for another year. Nine is the Bears.
28:14
Speaker 1: Again.
28:14
Speaker 4: Then here's where it gets interesting. Ten is the Falcons.
28:16
Speaker 4: Eleven is the Raiders. Twelve is the Vikings, which is
28:20
Speaker 4: super interesting. So mark how far back when you look
28:23
Speaker 4: at your team, you say, okay, we can only go
28:25
Speaker 4: back to maybe in that sixty seven range, or we
28:28
Speaker 4: can go all the way back to ten with the
28:30
Speaker 4: Falcons because they can give us a mountain of bounty.
28:33
Speaker 5: Or we can add other draft picks to help support
28:35
Speaker 5: justin fields.
28:36
Speaker 8: Yeah, at any time throughout the draft, but particularly at
28:39
Speaker 8: the top here when you go through your draft meetings
28:42
Speaker 8: and you see your draft positioning. You want to trade back,
28:45
Speaker 8: but trade back so you still get a player you
28:49
Speaker 8: want and a player you love. You don't want to
28:52
Speaker 8: trade out, and you're sitting there at ten. You're like, well,
28:54
Speaker 8: who do we take now? We got a way back
28:56
Speaker 8: to ten, We got these draft picks, but we don't
28:58
Speaker 8: love anybody that's here. So number one, you're looking at
29:02
Speaker 8: the compensation package wherever that falls to say yep, we
29:06
Speaker 8: love this now, or a first round pick for next
29:10
Speaker 8: year that could be in the mix as well, or
29:12
Speaker 8: players and picks. So you're looking at the compensation, comparing
29:16
Speaker 8: that and saying, okay, what do we like the best,
29:19
Speaker 8: But then also to get to a certain point on
29:22
Speaker 8: your board where you have a group of players and
29:24
Speaker 8: you say, okay, we've got these three guys. We don't
29:27
Speaker 8: want to miss out on one of these guys. We
29:28
Speaker 8: want to get one of them, so we don't want
29:30
Speaker 8: to be at number eight and then and sitting there with.
29:32
Speaker 1: A player we don't like.
29:33
Speaker 8: You want to still trade get a compensation package you
29:36
Speaker 8: really love, but still be in a position that you
29:40
Speaker 8: can get a player that you really want to have.
29:42
Speaker 8: You don't want to be put the name in and
29:44
Speaker 8: you got everybody looking in your room like, man, we
29:46
Speaker 8: don't want this guy. You still want to be in
29:48
Speaker 8: a position where everyone's saying, yep, we've still got our guy,
29:51
Speaker 8: but we got an excellent package of value for where
29:54
Speaker 8: we traded from at number one.
29:56
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by it because also with Mark, the way
29:59
Speaker 2: that we're hearing Justin Fields has the locker room. How
30:03
Speaker 2: much you said you don't look at fans, But how
30:05
Speaker 2: much does that weigh into a front office when they
30:08
Speaker 2: know that the other fifty two guys in that locker
30:10
Speaker 2: room want Justin Fields to stay. How much does that
30:13
Speaker 2: way into your evaluation of making this difficult, difficult decision.
30:18
Speaker 3: But you want the decision, you said, Yo, no.
30:21
Speaker 1: Doubt, no doubt.
30:21
Speaker 8: That's what that's what's made of. You know, nobody No
30:24
Speaker 8: easy stuff is easy layups or easy who's gonna beat
30:26
Speaker 8: people off the dribble? Hit these threes with someone in
30:28
Speaker 8: your face? That's what you want as a GM relish
30:32
Speaker 8: that position to be in. And yes, you definitely have
30:35
Speaker 8: to take into account how your team feels about a
30:38
Speaker 8: quarterback and the belief. The belief is a huge thing
30:42
Speaker 8: with the Giants. With Eli Manning, I said, that was
30:44
Speaker 8: the biggest strength he had is that the team believed
30:47
Speaker 8: in Eli.
30:48
Speaker 1: You know, the pre interception of whatever. They believe Eli's
30:50
Speaker 1: gonna get it done. So that's a huge step.
30:53
Speaker 8: But Justin still has to show enough and he's shown flashes,
30:57
Speaker 8: there still has to be that play.
31:00
Speaker 1: Okay, I know the team loves this guy, but.
31:02
Speaker 8: You know he can't make these easy throws or we
31:04
Speaker 8: don't think he's processing well enough. You still have to
31:07
Speaker 8: block that out with the team thinks and go with
31:09
Speaker 8: what your scouting staff and your coaching staff evaluates Justin
31:13
Speaker 8: Fields and his potential or viability again compared to who
31:17
Speaker 8: they could get in the draft, and say, Caleb Williams
31:20
Speaker 8: is going to be better than Justin Fields and he
31:22
Speaker 8: can take us to another level. I know the team
31:24
Speaker 8: likes Justin, but just talent wise, play wise, we think
31:28
Speaker 8: he can take us to another level that Justin cannot.
31:30
Speaker 1: Take us to.
31:31
Speaker 8: So yes, you weigh it in, but ultimately you can't
31:34
Speaker 8: let players make decisions for you. You take into account,
31:37
Speaker 8: but they can't make decisions. It just helps you and
31:39
Speaker 8: guide you a little bit if you have your guy.
31:42
Speaker 4: Especially players who don't give you enough of a record
31:45
Speaker 4: as to where we're not even having a conversation like
31:47
Speaker 4: this because you're making a playoff plan right now, man, yeah, player,
31:51
Speaker 4: right now, Okay, right now, all right, Mark Ross, thank.
31:53
Speaker 1: You so much.
31:54
Speaker 5: We gotta get going, but we're gonna have you back
31:56
Speaker 5: next week because you've got a whole lot of stuff.
31:58
Speaker 1: Going on we talk about.
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Speaker 4: All right, well, look, it's gonna be a new year
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Speaker 4: because once again you are a Pro Football Hall of
33:12
Speaker 4: Fame finalist. Toy, We've been here before, Bro, it's your
33:15
Speaker 4: fifth time, and I just kind of want to know,
33:17
Speaker 4: like going through this the past couple of years and
33:21
Speaker 4: getting the phone call instead of the knock has it globally?
33:25
Speaker 4: Has it changed your perspective on this process at all?
33:29
Speaker 10: Like?
33:29
Speaker 5: Am I going to get in? Is blah blah? Have
33:32
Speaker 5: you changed it all with this?
33:34
Speaker 3: No?
33:34
Speaker 10: I've tried to say the course. Thankfully, I just kind
33:37
Speaker 10: of lean on my faith.
33:38
Speaker 9: But I tell you what, though, to be honest with receiver,
33:40
Speaker 9: it's a it's an emotional rollercoaster. It really is, because
33:44
Speaker 9: that's not a day that goes by that I don't
33:45
Speaker 9: think about possibly being inducted into the Pro Football of Fame.
33:49
Speaker 10: Think about that, there's only three hundred and seventy one members.
33:53
Speaker 9: There's only twenty eight receivers in the basketball league that
33:56
Speaker 9: are Pro Football Hall of Famous LOI will and I'll
33:58
Speaker 9: be twenty ninth. So I enjoyed the process. I learned
34:03
Speaker 9: something new every single year. But I just ride the wave, man,
34:06
Speaker 9: And it's really cool because it's a journey for me.
34:09
Speaker 9: I put something out on I put something on my
34:10
Speaker 9: Instagram and it said the journey continues, and that's it.
34:14
Speaker 9: And I'm just staying down on it, like killing Mike.
34:16
Speaker 9: I'm just staying down by law, just stand down on it,
34:19
Speaker 9: waiting on my turn, but at the same time, but
34:23
Speaker 9: at the same time really enjoying the moment because it
34:26
Speaker 9: is really special.
34:26
Speaker 10: It's so many men that's played in.
34:28
Speaker 9: The National Football League, but there's only a few that's
34:31
Speaker 9: graced the Hall. So hopefully, hopefully soon I'll be gracing
34:34
Speaker 9: the hall man Tory.
34:36
Speaker 3: You mentioned it being a roller coaster.
34:37
Speaker 2: I'm assuming this makes the roller coaster ride maybe a
34:40
Speaker 2: little bit more enjoyable. We've had Andre Johnson on the show,
34:43
Speaker 2: We've had Eddie George on the show, and those two
34:45
Speaker 2: guys specifically, and you know, there's others have been stumping
34:48
Speaker 2: for you personally.
34:49
Speaker 3: To get in. They said it on our show. They're like,
34:51
Speaker 3: it's time for Tory to get in.
34:53
Speaker 2: When other guys that are waiting for their turn as
34:56
Speaker 2: well are stumping for you to get into the hall.
34:59
Speaker 2: What does that kind of mean That support from other
35:01
Speaker 2: guys that are also trying to get that gold jacket.
35:04
Speaker 9: First and foremost as respect it really is. You know,
35:07
Speaker 9: that's because it's it's hard, you know, It's just it's
35:09
Speaker 9: it's tough to sustain a Hall of Fame level year
35:12
Speaker 9: and then you're out first and foremost and for your
35:14
Speaker 9: peers to recognize you as an Hall of Fame. But
35:16
Speaker 9: it just again kind of validates what type of player
35:19
Speaker 9: they thought you were, the type of competitor you were,
35:22
Speaker 9: the type.
35:22
Speaker 10: Of leader you were in your community, on your.
35:26
Speaker 9: Organization, and the representation that you every single year gave
35:31
Speaker 9: the National Football League.
35:33
Speaker 10: So that is really cool to hear that.
35:35
Speaker 9: Look, there's so many guys out there that that I
35:37
Speaker 9: feel a Hall of Fame worthy as well, and I'm
35:40
Speaker 9: championing for them.
35:41
Speaker 3: You know.
35:41
Speaker 9: I think back to one guy that comes to mind
35:44
Speaker 9: for me, and I love him to death. He's a
35:46
Speaker 9: He's a tremendous wide receiver. He was really dominating his
35:49
Speaker 9: era was was was sterling shark, you know, and when
35:53
Speaker 9: I see stroke, I automatically give him as flowers because
35:56
Speaker 9: he you know, he paved the way for a lot
35:59
Speaker 9: of us that's played the position. So no, I'm thrilled
36:01
Speaker 9: to hear that from my counterparts. Thrilled to hear that
36:04
Speaker 9: from guys that I competed. Togains some guys that I
36:06
Speaker 9: have respect for too, and carry themselves at a Hall
36:09
Speaker 9: of Pro Bowl Hall of Fame level two. So again, man,
36:12
Speaker 9: my peers have said to me time and time again,
36:15
Speaker 9: they feel like you'd be in be in the Pro
36:17
Speaker 9: Football Hall of Fame.
36:18
Speaker 10: Hopefully the voters get it right as well.
36:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, Toy again, Sterling Sharp one of the best receivers
36:22
Speaker 4: I've ever seen, just had that short career, had a
36:24
Speaker 4: neck injury which cut it short, but still like in
36:28
Speaker 4: that era, like he was that guy. So Toy, let
36:32
Speaker 4: me ask you this when you when you look, we
36:33
Speaker 4: were just watching Highlands View and Isaac Bruce, like Isaac
36:36
Speaker 4: Bruce is in, Kurt Warner is in Orlando, Pace is in,
36:39
Speaker 4: Marshall Falk is in when you just you know, sometimes
36:43
Speaker 4: these voters might say, we can't put in five guys
36:45
Speaker 4: and one team but this, But to me, that only
36:48
Speaker 4: helps your case because you put up the numbers that
36:52
Speaker 4: you did with all of that other talent. Don't you
36:57
Speaker 4: think that's more of a feather in your cap than anything?
37:00
Speaker 9: I think so, And I think the voters have to
37:02
Speaker 9: look at my case. They have to look at me
37:05
Speaker 9: as a player, just as they did with Marshall, just
37:08
Speaker 9: as they did with Orlando, just as they did with Isaac,
37:11
Speaker 9: just as they did with Kurt and the Nias. They
37:13
Speaker 9: look at their case. They looked at what they did
37:16
Speaker 9: in the National Football League. Look at what I did
37:19
Speaker 9: in the National Football League for a decade, And what
37:21
Speaker 9: it was saying to you is I was an all
37:23
Speaker 9: decade player.
37:23
Speaker 10: It was an all Pro.
37:24
Speaker 9: I was a super Bowl champion, all of the all
37:27
Speaker 9: of the accolades that you can possibly a mass in
37:29
Speaker 9: the league. I was that uh records in the National
37:34
Speaker 9: Football League, that was set as a rookie, and beyond,
37:37
Speaker 9: I was that and beyond the greatest show on turf days.
37:41
Speaker 9: I was still that guy, producer and producer at a
37:44
Speaker 9: high level.
37:45
Speaker 10: I was that guy. So I think I've voted.
37:46
Speaker 9: I hope our voters look at my case, Tory Holt,
37:50
Speaker 9: as a player, and and and and and really see
37:54
Speaker 9: what I was able to do, the impact that I
37:55
Speaker 9: was able to have in my eleven years in the
37:58
Speaker 9: National Football League.
37:59
Speaker 2: All said, Tory, we're looking at the group that you
38:03
Speaker 2: were a part of, and you're talking about it, and
38:04
Speaker 2: Steve's talking about it. I'm like thinking of all these players, like,
38:08
Speaker 2: is there a group of skill guys in the NFL
38:10
Speaker 2: right now on a particular team that you kind of
38:12
Speaker 2: look at and go, that's that's a group right there.
38:14
Speaker 2: I'm not saying anybody is the greatest show on turf,
38:17
Speaker 2: but is there a team where you see a group
38:19
Speaker 2: whether it's San Francisco or one of those teams where.
38:21
Speaker 3: You go, this group of skill guys is something else?
38:24
Speaker 10: Well, there's a number of guys you know.
38:25
Speaker 9: You look out and in Cincinnati with the Bengals and
38:29
Speaker 9: Chase and Higgas and those dudes are out Tyler board,
38:32
Speaker 9: how they get down, how efficient they are, productive they are.
38:36
Speaker 9: I look at Tyreek Hill and waddle down in Miami.
38:38
Speaker 9: The speed why you know what I mean? Where you
38:42
Speaker 9: line up against those guys, you better get ready to
38:44
Speaker 9: run and run for a long time and being to
38:48
Speaker 9: keep up with them, and then they got co coordinated.
38:50
Speaker 9: It's creative with those guys and their sweet spots to
38:52
Speaker 9: allow them to express themselves athletic. You mentioned the San
38:55
Speaker 9: Francisco forty nine is when you think of a timing
38:58
Speaker 9: system efficient depth details concepts, I think of the San
39:02
Speaker 9: Francisco forty nine and so those are a few that
39:05
Speaker 9: come to mind when I think about wide receiver groups
39:08
Speaker 9: and how they played and some of the things that
39:10
Speaker 9: immolates how we played with the greatest showing turf. One
39:13
Speaker 9: of the things that really made us, specially when I
39:15
Speaker 9: say this all the time and I look at San
39:16
Speaker 9: Francisco and other receiver groups, is we enjoyed each other's success.
39:20
Speaker 9: We enjoyed watching one another get off. Actually, we saw
39:24
Speaker 9: Isaac run a particular route that was dope. We came
39:26
Speaker 9: back in practice next week it was like yo, we
39:28
Speaker 9: got to run it like that and even better. So
39:31
Speaker 9: we were pushing the challenges in one another, but were
39:34
Speaker 9: also excited and celebrated.
39:36
Speaker 10: And then we were very unselfish.
39:38
Speaker 7: You know.
39:38
Speaker 9: We had Marshall back in the backfield that we were
39:40
Speaker 9: handed off to and he can kill you for days.
39:43
Speaker 9: But we didn't mind on the perimeter blocking and getting
39:46
Speaker 9: those extra blocks, extending those long runs for a guy
39:49
Speaker 9: like Marshall. So San Francisco forty nine has come to
39:52
Speaker 9: mind in terms of the complete group of receivers and
39:55
Speaker 9: how they played in the receiving game, and as well
39:58
Speaker 9: as how they played in the run game.
40:00
Speaker 4: All right, So we're gonna wrap this up though, because
40:01
Speaker 4: you're talking about guys playing off of one another.
40:04
Speaker 5: Let's go back to your former team, the Rams. The
40:06
Speaker 5: way that.
40:07
Speaker 4: Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakua, who are similar in stature,
40:11
Speaker 4: their games there, their games are pretty similar, the way
40:14
Speaker 4: that they play off of each other, from the physicality
40:17
Speaker 4: of their blocking, from their big playability, from their catch
40:20
Speaker 4: and run ability. What can you say about that tandem
40:23
Speaker 4: in the future of that tandem?
40:25
Speaker 9: I can say so much about that tandem. First and
40:27
Speaker 9: foremost their Rams, So gollahad and to all my Rams
40:32
Speaker 9: and our RAMS receivers and the and the tradition that
40:35
Speaker 9: we have at the wire receiving position. When you think
40:38
Speaker 9: about the Los Angeles Rams, so the second those Rams
40:40
Speaker 9: Los Angeles Rams have what he will say Rams.
40:42
Speaker 10: Look, these dudes man are talented as all get out.
40:45
Speaker 9: As you see there Pokin the coaty five yards. I
40:50
Speaker 9: think he's one hundred yards away from breaking the breaking
40:53
Speaker 9: the record or rookie one hundred and one. I wrote
40:56
Speaker 9: it down here, one hundred and one catches he needs
40:58
Speaker 9: for to break the record, his size, the speed in
41:02
Speaker 9: which he plays the passion in which he plays. It's
41:05
Speaker 9: fun watching pook and the cop play the game of football.
41:08
Speaker 9: And then he has a guy in Cooper cup that
41:10
Speaker 9: he sees how to do it every single day in
41:12
Speaker 9: terms of the professionalism, the consistency, the work ethic. Cooper
41:16
Speaker 9: Cup Man I said time and time again when you
41:17
Speaker 9: go in that meeting room, he's going to be the
41:19
Speaker 9: first person you see right up front taking notes, curtinent notes.
41:22
Speaker 9: But he also shares the information with Pooka and the
41:26
Speaker 9: rest of the wire receivers on that roster, so that
41:29
Speaker 9: I love the wire receiver corps. They're to do all
41:31
Speaker 9: those two guys, they're talented. Both are not small guys.
41:36
Speaker 9: You're talking about guys that are six to two plus
41:39
Speaker 9: really nice size stick and the other thing about Poop
41:42
Speaker 9: and the core. Yeah, they throw him the football, but
41:44
Speaker 9: he also now is involved in the jet SUITEE and
41:46
Speaker 9: he's using that side the key first downs with his
41:50
Speaker 9: rams office to stay on to keep them on the
41:52
Speaker 9: field and move in the chain. And then they got
41:54
Speaker 9: a guy in Matthew Stafford. Right now it's hot and
41:58
Speaker 9: he can get them all the ball. We're on the field.
42:01
Speaker 4: Tory holds on s those hands and only compare to
42:04
Speaker 4: Brian Baldinger's when we do that. Hey, toy man, you
42:09
Speaker 4: know we're supposed to be objective and doing what we're doing,
42:11
Speaker 4: but I gotta tell you, man, we're pulling for you
42:14
Speaker 4: to finally get that knock on the door. We appreciate
42:17
Speaker 4: you joining us here on the NFL Report again, Happy
42:21
Speaker 4: New Year, and thanks so much.
42:23
Speaker 10: Thank you guys, very much appreciated. All the best East.
42:27
Speaker 2: Coming up Jeff Schendiaz first read column. We're gonna break
42:31
Speaker 2: down the AFC South. This could be a division for
42:33
Speaker 2: the next few years that we're all gonna.
42:36
Speaker 3: Be enjoying watching these young quarterbacks play. More NFL Report
42:40
Speaker 3: coming up next.
42:46
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43:18
Speaker 4: Are we're back with our final block of the NFL Report.
43:21
Speaker 4: For that, we're bringing our guy Jeff Chadeah. Every week
43:25
Speaker 4: it's first read segment. Jeff, just for the people listening
43:29
Speaker 4: on the podcast, you have on your.
43:31
Speaker 5: Your Michigan gear colors, your colors.
43:34
Speaker 4: As the Wolverines of course win a big one in
43:38
Speaker 4: the championship playoff and James Palmer's Ohio State Buck guys,
43:41
Speaker 4: of course took l to the Missouri Tigers, where I
43:44
Speaker 4: actually spent a little time.
43:45
Speaker 1: They played a ballgame.
43:46
Speaker 2: I didn't mean like the rest of Ohio State didn't
43:49
Speaker 2: know they played a bowl game.
43:50
Speaker 1: Yeah me, like me and the team didn't know there
43:52
Speaker 1: was a bowl game.
43:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
43:54
Speaker 2: I don't like this though, by the way, Jeff, because
43:56
Speaker 2: we broke bread in Kansas City Saturday night with our
43:59
Speaker 2: significant others. We there, we have a wonderful meal, everybody's laughing,
44:03
Speaker 2: it's it's glorious, and then you do this to me today.
44:06
Speaker 1: I didn't mention them at all, did I? What's that
44:08
Speaker 1: I mentioned the college?
44:11
Speaker 3: I think we're there for three hours.
44:12
Speaker 5: We didn't say word game hadn't been played yet. James
44:16
Speaker 5: game had not been played yet. All right, all right,
44:18
Speaker 5: we're gonna re visit this a different time. We don't
44:19
Speaker 5: have a ton of time left.
44:20
Speaker 4: But Jeff, in your first recolumn today, you talk about
44:23
Speaker 4: what's at stake right going into week eighteen, A lot
44:26
Speaker 4: of things have already been decided, but only two playoff
44:28
Speaker 4: bursts are open in the AFC, and.
44:31
Speaker 5: The big conundrum really comes out of.
44:33
Speaker 4: The AFC South, where the Colts, Jags, and Texans are
44:38
Speaker 4: still in place. So why don't you walk us through
44:40
Speaker 4: some of those scenarios and then push it forward to
44:43
Speaker 4: how the AFC South they could be the determining division
44:47
Speaker 4: in the AFC for the next whatever round of years.
44:51
Speaker 11: Well, all three of these teams have a chance to
44:53
Speaker 11: win the AFC South right now. Jackson m'clearly was in
44:57
Speaker 11: the front runner a few weeks ago when they were
44:59
Speaker 11: eight and three. They fall back to the pack with
45:01
Speaker 11: a four game losing street, but they found a way
45:03
Speaker 11: to get that win last week impressively against a really
45:06
Speaker 11: bad Carolina team. Obviously in Houston, Indianapolis are sitting there too,
45:11
Speaker 11: hoping to get.
45:11
Speaker 1: A break here.
45:12
Speaker 11: Now, the round of here is that somebody has to
45:15
Speaker 11: win somebody has the fall out of this race. Houston
45:17
Speaker 11: plays Indianapolis this week, so one of those two teams
45:19
Speaker 11: to be out.
45:20
Speaker 1: But ironically most of these three of these teams.
45:23
Speaker 11: Have shots at wildcard spots at a time when you
45:26
Speaker 11: go back to the start of the year when we
45:27
Speaker 11: were thinking by the second worst division in football.
45:32
Speaker 2: I thought, Jeff, we also were going like, you know, CJ.
45:34
Speaker 2: Stroud's balling in the middle of the year. Then Shane
45:36
Speaker 2: Stike in somehow with his group and a backup quarterback
45:39
Speaker 2: and Gardner Minshew, It's like they just keep putting up points.
45:41
Speaker 2: We're like, this isn't sustainable to be playoff teams the
45:44
Speaker 2: rest of the way. But man, these are nice stories,
45:46
Speaker 2: but that's not the way it is right now. And
45:49
Speaker 2: I think it's because what I just mentioned was Shane
45:51
Speaker 2: Stiken and then you look at Jamiico Ryans with the
45:55
Speaker 2: Houston Texans. Those two guys up probably for Coach of
45:58
Speaker 2: the Year, probably sitting there right by Steve's guy and
46:00
Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski, but also Mike Vrabels in this division, and
46:04
Speaker 2: you also have Doug Peterson in this division. When we
46:07
Speaker 2: look at what's moving forward with all of these teams.
46:09
Speaker 2: How much do you think the guys running these four
46:12
Speaker 2: programs are going to make what we look at with
46:15
Speaker 2: the AFC South maybe turn on its head now in
46:18
Speaker 2: the foreseeable future.
46:19
Speaker 11: Well, you look at the AFC South from that lens,
46:22
Speaker 11: and what you're looking at is a division has a
46:25
Speaker 11: great opportunity to really influence the AFC going forward because
46:28
Speaker 11: what you have there with Shroud, Richardson, Will Levis and
46:35
Speaker 11: Trevor Lawrence is four guys on rookie contracts, right, and
46:37
Speaker 11: so these teams can go out. Jacksonville's already spent money,
46:40
Speaker 11: but you have teams can go out and really still
46:42
Speaker 11: keep building around what they have at the quarterback position,
46:45
Speaker 11: and they're well coached. So much as we talk about
46:48
Speaker 11: Annas City and Buffalo and Cincinnati and Baltimore, now you
46:52
Speaker 11: might potentially have four more teams that could be players
46:54
Speaker 11: in this because their Brandon Football Division is it's a
46:57
Speaker 11: more physical division. It's a division, as you mentioned, is
47:00
Speaker 11: really well coached, and we're finding out that the gms
47:03
Speaker 11: they know what they're doing too. And so yeah, I'm
47:05
Speaker 11: excited to see what comes out of this division going forward,
47:07
Speaker 11: because nobody thought they'd have more than one playoff team
47:11
Speaker 11: and they might have two.
47:12
Speaker 1: How about that? How about that? So did Jeff?
47:14
Speaker 4: Every week in your column you talk about the MVP
47:17
Speaker 4: race and it is in the words of Vinnie Johnson
47:21
Speaker 4: Detroit Pistons ov A, it is over. It is Ova
47:26
Speaker 4: Romar Jackson, the deal is sealed.
47:30
Speaker 5: I mean, what what.
47:31
Speaker 1: Can you say?
47:32
Speaker 4: Because some people are gonna say, he doesn't have the
47:33
Speaker 4: stats like this, but he's the MVP, he's the best player,
47:37
Speaker 4: He's the best player in the NFL.
47:39
Speaker 11: Well, we said this a few weeks ago, and when
47:42
Speaker 11: I wrote that big MVP column, we talked about on
47:44
Speaker 11: this and that's there's gonna be some some wild cards
47:47
Speaker 11: in here that aren't named Rock Perdy or Dak Prescott,
47:49
Speaker 11: and Lamar was one of those people. Because you knew
47:52
Speaker 11: that they were gonna have some big games and you
47:53
Speaker 11: knew they were gonna have some opportunities to really showcase
47:56
Speaker 11: what what the MVP could be for them and what
47:59
Speaker 11: Lamar is exactly that. I mean, this was going to
48:02
Speaker 11: be a year who it's gonna be less about stats
48:04
Speaker 11: and more about moments. And when you go to San
48:06
Speaker 11: Francisco and you blow out the best team in the NFL,
48:09
Speaker 11: at the time, and you go and you beat the
48:11
Speaker 11: Miami Dolphins, who had one of the top two offenses
48:14
Speaker 11: of football at the time. You were making a huge
48:16
Speaker 11: tatement about what you are and what you're leading. Look,
48:20
Speaker 11: I thought he had a great chance to win it
48:22
Speaker 11: just by them being the top seed. But you look
48:24
Speaker 11: at what he's done the last couple of weeks and
48:26
Speaker 11: the way he played against the Dolphins. Yeah, it's cemented it.
48:28
Speaker 11: He's going to be He's going to get a second MVP.
48:33
Speaker 2: All right, Jeff under thirty seconds is the runner up,
48:35
Speaker 2: then Josh Allen.
48:38
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. It is.
48:39
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it is. But I'll make a case
48:42
Speaker 11: for Dak Prescott, you know. I mean it's like Dak
48:44
Speaker 11: has got the numbers, but he's playing against lesser competition
48:48
Speaker 11: I think than what Josh has. Josh has a ton
48:50
Speaker 11: of touchdowns and his rally the bills. You know, it's
48:54
Speaker 11: if he didn't have the turnovers, he might have that award.
48:57
Speaker 11: But again, I think Josh Allen's doing a lot to
48:59
Speaker 11: keep Buffalo in there, and I like him as a
49:02
Speaker 11: number two with Dak three.
49:04
Speaker 5: Wow.
49:05
Speaker 4: Interesting, Risius McCaffrey, that must be an O po y.
49:09
Speaker 1: Quarterback.
49:11
Speaker 5: We're talking about runner up for a runner up.
49:14
Speaker 4: Hey, Jeff, we appreciate you. Let's see what the Wolverines
49:17
Speaker 4: can do in the big game. We'll get back, but
49:20
Speaker 4: we appreciate you.
49:21
Speaker 1: Have a happy New Year. Right of the West. Happen
49:24
Speaker 1: to you're already brother, happen to you're already. There we go,
49:28
Speaker 1: Jeff in person, much more than the virtual Jeff, there
49:31
Speaker 1: we go.
49:31
Speaker 3: Well this weekend.
49:33
Speaker 5: Hey, speaking of virtual, here we are James and I.
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Speaker 4: You can find us on the NFL Report today it's Tuesday,
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Speaker 4: but typically every Monday and Thursday at seven fifteen pm
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Speaker 4: places like that.
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Speaker 5: But we're also a podcast.
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Speaker 4: You can find us on iHeartRadio and other places where
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Speaker 4: you get your podcast.
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Speaker 1: So, JP, you got.
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Speaker 5: About the final twenty seconds here week eighteen. What do
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Speaker 5: you think we're gonna.
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Speaker 4: Be talking about this time next week, which will also
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Speaker 4: be on a Tuesday.
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Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm not even gonna go to that, Steve.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to Thursday when Baldi breaks down everything
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Speaker 2: we need to know between that Dolphins and Bill's game.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna be my favorite. Baldy's Favorite Films of
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Speaker 1: all Time podcast