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The DiCecco Daily: Going Inside Additions Of Sean Mannion, Josh Grizzard, And Direction Of The Eagles' Offense · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, what's happened? Everybody? Welcome into another edition of the
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: Czech o'dealy. It's Andrew Dichecko here Eagles beat reporter Friendsidethirds
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  Speaker 1: dot com and we got some Eagles news. On Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles announced that they've hired Sean Mannion to be
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  Speaker 1: the new offensive coordinator. The search is over. There's some
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  Speaker 1: intrigue here with this addition, and there's also some different
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  Speaker 1: aspects of the coaching hire that I think we need
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  Speaker 1: to discuss because it's a big swing, no doubt for
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  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, who cast a very wide net. They
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  Speaker 1: go outside of their comfort level, and this coach, Sean Mannion,
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  Speaker 1: does not have any prioritize to Nick Sirianni. So they
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  Speaker 1: really did their due diligence here, and I think you
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  Speaker 1: liked it. It was an extensive search and it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a name that really surfaced until later in the process.
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  Speaker 1: But Seawan Mannion clearly wowed the Eagles in those interviews,
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  Speaker 1: he had two of them, and everything that I've sort
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  Speaker 1: of gathered, this is an intelligent, bright offensive mind. And yes,
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  Speaker 1: he coached just two years in the NFL as an
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  Speaker 1: offensive assistant in twenty four. In twenty twenty five, he
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  Speaker 1: was the quarterbacks coach. But you have to look at
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  Speaker 1: the the product there in twenty twenty five, Jordan Love
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  Speaker 1: Malik Willis. They both performed very well. Malik Willis was
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  Speaker 1: sort of a reclamation project there when he needed to play.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that he showed tangible signs of growth. Jordan
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  Speaker 1: Love had the best season of his career. This was
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  Speaker 1: a coach and Sean Mannion who may not register all
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  Speaker 1: that much as a household name to those on the outside,
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  Speaker 1: but in NFL circles, make the mistake about it, he
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  Speaker 1: was a viewed as a fast rising coach and as
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  Speaker 1: sending coach who has head coaching potential. So the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: maybe get a year ahead of getting a coach like
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  Speaker 1: Shawn Mannion, because I have to imagine, had he remained
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  Speaker 1: in Green Bay and assuming everything with status quo, he
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  Speaker 1: would be a hot commodity for an offensive coordinator position.
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  Speaker 1: We saw how many there were this year. Next season,
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  Speaker 1: he would be somebody that I think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: teams would be covening. So the Eagles identified the talent,
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  Speaker 1: assuming presumably they liked his vision, his ideas, his plans
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  Speaker 1: for reimagining the offense, his plans for working with Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Hurts and helping him elevate his game to an even
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  Speaker 1: greater level, add some different wrinkles to the offense that
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  Speaker 1: they haven't seen before, different concepts and ideologies. Look. Shawn
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  Speaker 1: Mannion has been around a number of different coaches in
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  Speaker 1: his career. Drafted in the third round back in twenty fifteen,
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  Speaker 1: he was was a player with the Rams, and but
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  Speaker 1: he's been with Sean McVay, He's been with Matt Lafleur obviously,
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  Speaker 1: He's been with Clint Kobiak when he was with the
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  Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. He's been with Kevin O'Connell. He's been with
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski. So there's so many different minds that I
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  Speaker 1: think you can't help but learn from and absorb if
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  Speaker 1: you're someone like Sean Manny and who I went into
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  Speaker 1: this process with the understanding of this was someone who
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  Speaker 1: had a football IQ that was off the charts, who
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  Speaker 1: was someone who was believed to be well, who had
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  Speaker 1: proven to be a sponge and have a very high
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  Speaker 1: level football IQ, but be extremely intelligent. And so you
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  Speaker 1: take all those things into account, and the coaches that
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  Speaker 1: he's worked with the quarterbacks that he's been on staff with,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that there's obvious reasons for intrigue. All
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  Speaker 1: that being said, there's also reasons to look at this
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  Speaker 1: with a critical eye, right because this is a coach
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  Speaker 1: who is very lean when it comes to experience. He
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  Speaker 1: elevated to an offensive Cordator roll very quickly by NFL
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  Speaker 1: standards just two years ago. From a perspective, he was
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback on the Seattle Seahawks practice squad, So his
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  Speaker 1: rise has been sort of meteoric considering. And it says
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  Speaker 1: a lot when you hear out of Green Bay what
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  Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, all the ringing endorsements that he's thrown out
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  Speaker 1: there when asked about Manion, or you see a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the post on social media that it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a big loss from those who cover the Green
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  Speaker 1: Bay Packers, and it kind of reminds me a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of how the Eagles fans and how we covering
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  Speaker 1: the team feel about Christian Parker. When the Eagles lost
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  Speaker 1: Christian parkerter Dallas, that was a big loss, maybe unbeknownst
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  Speaker 1: to those on the outside, but for those who do
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  Speaker 1: the value that he brought. Yes, that was a big loss,
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  Speaker 1: and I think Mannion was viewed as sort of their
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  Speaker 1: their young coach that no one really knew about and
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  Speaker 1: had the potential to really be a hot commodity. Next season, Well,
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  Speaker 1: he goes into Philadelphia and he will be now tasked
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  Speaker 1: with trying to bring this offense back to life, modernize
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  Speaker 1: it a little bit. And I guess the skepticism, if
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  Speaker 1: you will, comes from the fact that he's never called
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  Speaker 1: plays before. Now he's calling plays at the East West
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  Speaker 1: Shrine Bowl, So that's something to keep an eye on,
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  Speaker 1: I mean. And the only way to get experience is
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  Speaker 1: by getting experience. I think in any profession, you often hear, well,
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  Speaker 1: this person has more experience. Well, eventually you have to
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  Speaker 1: get that experience somehow, and I think he did enough
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  Speaker 1: in those interview He presented himself well and sort of
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  Speaker 1: gave them a glimpse into his mind and his vision
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  Speaker 1: for what he looks to do with this offense. And
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  Speaker 1: it was clearly enough. And I don't even know that
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  Speaker 1: that was a name that was even thought of until
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  Speaker 1: late in the process. But that is a byproduct of
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  Speaker 1: when you have an extensive search. Sometimes there's a coach
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  Speaker 1: that maybe he didn't necessarily have, you know, predominantly on
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  Speaker 1: your radar who pops up because of how he presents himself.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think Mannion's one of those coaches. It
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  Speaker 1: started out that Mike McDaniel and Brian Dable, two experienced coaches,
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  Speaker 1: were going to be at the forefront of this, and
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  Speaker 1: as both both of those coaches sort of went their
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  Speaker 1: own way and went a different way, and I think
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  Speaker 1: you saw the Eagles sort of look into the looking
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  Speaker 1: there's someone like a Charlie Weis, junior at the college
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  Speaker 1: level who's never called plays at the pro game obviously
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  Speaker 1: at the pro level, and and look at different coaches
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  Speaker 1: that Draw Johnson is another one, And so they were
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  Speaker 1: kind of exploring all these different ideas and options and
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  Speaker 1: turns out that it'll be Mannian. But if the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: got rid of Kevin Patullo after one season didn't call plays,
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  Speaker 1: didn't go well for him. Same thing for Brian Johnson,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't call plays though he had a top ten
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  Speaker 1: offense and he was ousted. It's fair to wonder because
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  Speaker 1: are are those who still were skeptical going into last
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  Speaker 1: season about Kevin Petullo having not called plays, but now
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  Speaker 1: are all of a sudden really excited for the Mannian hire.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a little tough there to kind
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  Speaker 1: of to sell me on on on the fact that
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  Speaker 1: you've seen enough of Sean Baddy and to give you
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  Speaker 1: that kind of intrigue. I'm intrigued because of the just
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  Speaker 1: the youth that he brings, the minds and the coaches
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  Speaker 1: that he's been around, the players that he's been around,
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  Speaker 1: the fact that when he was at college at Oregon State,
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  Speaker 1: he ran a very intricate West Coast offense under Mike Riley.
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  Speaker 1: He picked it up extremely fast. He soaked it up
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  Speaker 1: like a sponge. He's able to facilitate what he knows
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  Speaker 1: and help other players and help other people and just
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  Speaker 1: really convey his point in a way that I think
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  Speaker 1: can be digested by everyone. And so you take all
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  Speaker 1: that into account. Those are the makings of a good coach.
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  Speaker 1: But in reality, we have no idea what he's going
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  Speaker 1: to be until you get to the regular season, because
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  Speaker 1: that's where you're able to see how the offense is
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  Speaker 1: coming together. Because in training camp you might get a
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  Speaker 1: sense for it, you might have an inkling of what
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  Speaker 1: it could look like in the regular season, but you
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  Speaker 1: don't really know until not even in the preseason. You
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  Speaker 1: won't know obviously until you get to the regular season.
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  Speaker 1: But I will say this, you have to to afford
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  Speaker 1: a first year play caller the opportunity to grow into
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  Speaker 1: the role, to learn on the job, because there are
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  Speaker 1: going to be growing pains. There are going to be
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  Speaker 1: times where he's going to take his lumps. But what
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  Speaker 1: I've observed and being in Philadelphia and living in this
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  Speaker 1: area my whole life, there's not a lot of patience
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  Speaker 1: that's exercised. So it sounds great on the surface, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you there's going to be moments that may
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  Speaker 1: not be perfect. There may be some turbulence that should
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  Speaker 1: be expected that should be baked in to when you
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  Speaker 1: bring in a coach like this, But you gotta let
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  Speaker 1: them work through those challenges. Much like a young rookie
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  Speaker 1: or a young player who is struggling. You don't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: always have to pull them or think that it's a
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  Speaker 1: lost cause. No, you let them work through those challenges.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sure there'll be plenty who will agree with me,
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  Speaker 1: but there's also going to be some that say, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: here you and then they get to week Two, the
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  Speaker 1: offense doesn't meet this meet the market or off a
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  Speaker 1: game or whatever the case is, and he's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: heavily scrutinized. That's that's what comes with playing in this city.
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  Speaker 1: It's a passionate fan base. The expectations are sky high,
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  Speaker 1: and they should be when you look at the roster
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  Speaker 1: and the window that they have that's still open to
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  Speaker 1: take advantage that Super Bowl window. But yes, just understand that.
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  Speaker 1: Just exercise a little bit of patience here with this
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  Speaker 1: higher because I see the Eagles vision. Maybe he picks
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  Speaker 1: things up instantaneously. Doesn't always, it doesn't always go that way.
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  Speaker 1: Play calling is an art, it's not a science, and
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  Speaker 1: so I think all of those different things factors need
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  Speaker 1: to be taken into the equation. That's all. Now. The
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  Speaker 1: last piece is that if you're looking at it from
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  Speaker 1: us with the skeptical eye, well, will this fully be
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  Speaker 1: Sean Mannion's offense? Or is Nick Sirianni and I weigh
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  Speaker 1: in a little bit and have some say it's a
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  Speaker 1: tough question because Mannion, as I mentioned, has not called
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  Speaker 1: plays before, so it's hard to say yes or no.
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  Speaker 1: You should give that coach full autonomy. I think right
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  Speaker 1: now that they should and Nick Sirianni should step in
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  Speaker 1: if it's warranted and be there to support Sean. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's necessary for Nick Sirianni to
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  Speaker 1: be overly involved with the offense. Let Sean maybe put
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  Speaker 1: his spin on it and direct it where he sees fit.
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  Speaker 1: If you're not happy with it, if you think there
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  Speaker 1: needs to be some alterations, then you step in. You're
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  Speaker 1: the CEO, head coach, and I have to feels like
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  Speaker 1: I have to remind everybody who likes to discount Nick Sirianni.
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  Speaker 1: He's the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. So in
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  Speaker 1: other words, if he feels he needs to interject or
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  Speaker 1: step in or add his perspective to it, he's going
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  Speaker 1: to do it. I feel like he's getting a little
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  Speaker 1: bit disrespected here. I'm not saying he's this offensive, wonder kind,
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  Speaker 1: but he is the head coach of the Philadelphi Eagles
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  Speaker 1: and he deserves that respect. So I think, only if
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  Speaker 1: it's necessary or warranted, should he be not even saying
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  Speaker 1: heavy handed, but offer his his thoughts into the matter.
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  Speaker 1: But I think and and and when the when the
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  Speaker 1: hire was was finalized and all that. My immediate thoughts
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  Speaker 1: were it would it would serve Manion well if they
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  Speaker 1: had a senior assistant in some capacity to support him,
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  Speaker 1: to be a sounding board for the Eagles to potentially
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  Speaker 1: turn to if this doesn't work, because they didn't have
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  Speaker 1: that last season. He had Scott Leffler, but he was
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  Speaker 1: coming from his dime in Bowing Green. He was the
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach. He had Parks Frasier, who had called plays
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  Speaker 1: before he stepped in, but he wasn't really someone who
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  Speaker 1: has dealt with a lot of experience in that In
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  Speaker 1: that with that kind of position in a pressure market
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  Speaker 1: like Philadelphia, they didn't really have anybody to turn to.
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  Speaker 1: And I think if you look back on last season,
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: what could they have done to help Kevin Patool a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more? Surround them with a veteran coach like
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  Speaker 1: a Frank Reich or someone of that ilk, maybe a
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  Speaker 1: Matt Nagi. Those type of coaches are someone who I
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  Speaker 1: think they should be able to add to the staff
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  Speaker 1: just to give them that kind of help.
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  Speaker 1: The Eagles did on Friday morning announce that they've hired
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Josh Grizzard to be the passing game Coordinator, a role
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  Speaker 1: that was previously held by Parks Fraser. So presumably Parks
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  Speaker 1: Fraser will be on the outs, but Josh Grizzard interviewed
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  Speaker 1: multiple times for the Eagles offensive coordinator role. He was
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  Speaker 1: last season the offensive coordinator for the Tampa Bay Bucket years,
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  Speaker 1: where he called plays. Of course, he was the pass
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  Speaker 1: game coordinator for the Buccaneers the year before, and I
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: spent a number of years with Miami Dolphins where he
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: served a number of different roles, including a two year
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  Speaker 1: stint coaching wide receivers. So you have now a coach
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  Speaker 1: in Josh Grizzard who's fresh off of a year in
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  Speaker 1: which he called plays and was the pass game cordinator
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  Speaker 1: of the year before, so he liked the experience there.
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  Speaker 1: He's also a young coach. He's thirty five years old,
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  Speaker 1: and he's going to bring some fresh ideas and concepts,
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  Speaker 1: and he has an act for helping create space when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to the passing game. I believe you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: see more of a vertical element to the passing game
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  Speaker 1: based off of what we saw with Mannion. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we really have nothing to base Manion's time with the
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  Speaker 1: Packers off of, but for Grizzard, there was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of spacing. Players were able to have some separation, they
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  Speaker 1: were able to stress teams deep and there was more
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  Speaker 1: of a focus on that. I thought the concepts were
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more advanced, if you will. And you
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  Speaker 1: couple that with Mannion who's coming from a Green Bay
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  Speaker 1: Packers team that ran a lot of play action that
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  Speaker 1: there was there was more motion than the Eagles ran.
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  Speaker 1: Put it that way, and there's more middle of the
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  Speaker 1: field us that you saw the Packers play last season.
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  Speaker 1: So those are things that I'm curious to see if
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  Speaker 1: they translate over in Philadelphia, if some of those same
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  Speaker 1: things manifest what Mannion's vision is for the offense, how
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  Speaker 1: can he take this group to the next level the
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  Speaker 1: level that they should have been last season. And look,
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  Speaker 1: right now, we have no way of knowing that. You
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  Speaker 1: don't know if the hire is going to prove to
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: be someone who they knock it out of the park
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  Speaker 1: it's a home run or if it's a ground out single.
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  Speaker 1: You just don't know. We don't have enough information. It's
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  Speaker 1: not until September that we'll have a clearer picture. But
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  Speaker 1: for right now, I really like the Eagles process through this,
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  Speaker 1: and this is a coach that, based off of everything
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  Speaker 1: that I've gathered, is interesting to me. I think he
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  Speaker 1: does carry some intrigue, and I'm really anxious to or
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  Speaker 1: interested to hear from him when he's available and does
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  Speaker 1: his presser to get a better sense of maybe his
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  Speaker 1: vision moving forward. But I think that there is reason
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  Speaker 1: for optimism here, and we'll certainly learn more in the
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  Speaker 1: coming months. But for now, that's going to do it
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  Speaker 1: for this edition of the Czech O Daily. I am
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Decheco, and I'll catch you all on the next one.