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  Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.
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  Good morning. Walker.
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  So for example, I'm looking up some VA stuff, right?
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  Now. OK, All right, Awesome.
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  You guys carry on, let's. Do an important on the fly
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  research. Yes, well.
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  Hey, you know, I can tell you that, that Matt.
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  Holly, the kind of like the. I don't want to say the.
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  You know what I'm talking about, right?
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  You have no idea what I'm talking about.
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  Caveman I. Just said yeah for the.
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  Help. OK, All right.
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  So she's like a public figure, but she's like a Barbie public
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  figure. Like, she's really, really hot.
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  OK, kind of, Yeah. So or I'm trying to get a
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  little. Hot or is she just neighborly?
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  She's, she's. Just.
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  She's bottle hot. She's.
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  The model with a social media account.
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  She has something to do with the military and I told her we would
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  love to have her on the show, so I'm trying to schedule her to be
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  on the make. Sure, you sit me on the on the
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  opposite side of you. I don't want to be next to her
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  because then I'll get myself in trouble.
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  And then drone for soldiers, soldiers, drones or something
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  like that, we'll be having them on as well.
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  So a lot of good interviews coming up.
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  Hunting hills. I just confirmed that yesterday.
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  They're in an organization out of Bayfield, which is near
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  Durango, Co and great organization.
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  I've been on several hunts with those guys.
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  Top notch nonprofit. Very, very good people.
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  So I'm excited about that. They're coming in.
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  It'll be next month on the 16th. So we're filling up.
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  You know I funny story. So I called Nico to tell him
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  about my bike. You know, I'm like, hey dude, I
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  need, I might need it. You know I screwed up my bike.
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  I think I see a couple stress fractures as well.
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  So we'll have to I'll have to investigate.
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  But he's like, yeah, I can get support that And he goes, I said
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  I'm just calling. First of all, I thought, I want
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  to call and thank you for an excellent interview.
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  And you know, you did great. It was awesome.
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  And he goes, yeah, when are we doing that?
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  And I'm like, what? And he's like, yeah, when are we
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  doing that? And I'm like, dude, we already
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  did it, you knuckle. He didn't realize that v ^2 was
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  the same as we said that and that you and I were the same.
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  Now granted, he wasn't on the video so he couldn't see it, so
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  he would have, you know, he's never seen me.
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  But I mean, he would have put it together.
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  But yeah, he was, he was thinking that was two separate
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  shows. That's actually pretty.
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  Good. Well, like I said, we're not
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  Ellen. Yeah, we're not Ellen, So we
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  have. We have Ellen's potential.
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  We're nicer than Ellen. So new VA law for 2024 is trying
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  to improve the lives of all veterans.
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  According to the Department of Veteran Affairs.
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  There will be several impacts broader access to benefits with
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  expanded eligibility criteria. So you know, if in the past
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  you've been told no you don't qualify, you may qualify.
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  Now enhanced financial support adjustments in compensation
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  rates mean better financial support for veterans COVID with
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  disabilities. So we got, you know, our COLA
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  increase, improve mental health services, enhance focus on
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  mental health services, ensures veterans receive comprehensive
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  care that they desperately need and faster and simpler claims.
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  Right now, we've heard this one before, but you know the
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  streamline process will reduce the stress and wait times
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  associated with filing a claim. And so go to your local website,
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  VA website, and you can learn more about these new 2024 laws
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  that apply to you, 'cause we're here to get the word out.
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  I remember our first episode, you guys were talking about how
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  hard it is to do the the mental health stuff with the VA You
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  just, like sit on the the hold line forever.
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  It's like it it can be daunting. And you know, and one thing I've
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  learned is, is what time of day you call and what time of the
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  week you call 'cause if you call like Monday or Friday, forget
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  it. Right.
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  Call call. Middle of the week, middle of
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  the day. That's the best time.
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  But that's that's any business or any?
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  Company, You know, I mean exactly.
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  Well, that's the problem. Those most people are at work
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  during those times. Right.
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  But you know, it's it's funny you said that because every time
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  my wife gets on the road or every time we go to Walmart,
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  she's like, why is this place so busy?
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  Why don't we work? Anymore.
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  Right. Yeah.
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  And she's like, doesn't anybody work anymore, like one or 12:00?
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  And I'm like, well, you're off. She's like.
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  Why are you here? H Chen, you're savage.
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  Well, you know, I'm like, well, and so I'm colorblind.
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  So I'm colorblind as well. OK, yeah, so.
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  Better you thought she was black.
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  Though no. So she comes out a lot of times
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  and she'll be like, hey, look at me, you know how do I look?
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  And you know, I'm like. Yeah, does it do, am I color
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  coordinated and you're like? I'm like, why do you ask me?
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  You got to tell me to stop, mix and match it.
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  You got to tell me when to when to change and you're then you're
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  asking me for advice. It just doesn't make sense.
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  But. Just go with it.
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  Just tell her. You know, he just walks.
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  In the room, he's like that Gray.
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  Looks nice on you. You look like you look like
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  Marilyn Monroe on film. It's like the old I, I I I.
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  Dude, I don't have to kiss her ass anymore.
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  I'm. Married.
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  Yeah, that's our job. We got to kiss ass.
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  We'll be young. Yeah, well, it's like the old,
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  you know, the the couple married a couple.
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  And the wife, you know, she's heavyset and she has a new
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  outfit on and she's just comes after her husband.
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  She says, does this make me look fat?
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  And and you know, my response immediately is as opposed before
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  you as opposed to the fat before you put the outfit on.
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  I mean, come on, honey, you were fat.
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  Before so why? Are you going to sit here down
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  with this outfit? Look, make me look fat.
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  You were fat before you put the outfit on.
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  What are you talking about? It always struck me as funny as
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  when people like does the outfit make me look fat?
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  And it's like, well, lines, you know, pinstripes.
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  You're supposed to be slimming. Yeah.
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  Dude, come on, really? If you weigh 400 lbs, you can
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  still. Yeah, I I hear a lot about that
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  color coordinate. You know, according to your
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  your, you know body weigh like if it's black it's it's supposed
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  to be slimming compared to white or whatever.
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  I've heard a lot about that, but I I I never really bought into
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  it. Well, you know, and I again, I
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  don't want to offend anybody. I apologize if that was an
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  insensitive you. Know.
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  She's making an observation, but you know my wife and I are are
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  she's on a big health kick now, 'cause you know everybody around
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  her is losing weight with these. I don't know if it's Ozempic or
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  I think she takes phentermine. So all these diet aids and she's
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  she's, she's in with both feet. Boy, she's got a little exercise
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  routine and she's, you know, watching.
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  She doesn't count calories, but she's really watching what we.
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  And we never really ate. You know, we don't even hardly
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  go out there. Like we go out maybe I would say
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  two or three times a year. So we don't eat fast food.
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  We don't eat fried food. And so we eat pretty clean.
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  We don't drink soda or sugary drinks, but she's really
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  tightening, tightening things up, man.
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  She wants, you know, so I like it, you know, that's good
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  though. That would be definitely huge
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  changes soon, 'cause why don't you just stick with it?
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  Well, that's what I told her. I said, once you start seeing
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  results, you're gonna cause now she's like, nothing's happening.
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  And I was like, honey, it takes time, like anything, you know,
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  you didn't gain that weight overnight, so it's gonna take
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  time. You got to just keep at it.
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  Like you said, once you start stick with it and you start
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  seeing results, then you'll be like, all right, I'm gonna, I'm
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  gonna keep doing this, you know, So it's a good thing.
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  It's kind of the same thing. When I started working out, like
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  I wasn't really gaining any weight.
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  It's like mask wise. I looked a little bit bigger.
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  It's like I could tell if I just kept going with it, like gain
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  some weight soon, 'cause I don't ever expect to gain like 5 lbs
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  of muscle in a week, right? Yeah, well, you know when, when,
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  when you was telling us that you wanted to be a wrestler and I'm
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  asking him like did you, you know, weight lift and stuff like
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  that. He told me that he did and I I
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  was shocked about that. Yeah, in high school this I had
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  a weightlifting class. In high school used to do that,
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  but I used to do jiu jitsu for a little bit.
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  Yeah, I learned he's a jiu jitsu this morning.
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  Yeah, so I did that for a year. They had a There was a program
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  out there called We should. We need to get a hold of them.
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  They ain't got a kid. The name escapes me.
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  Anyway, there's a nonprofit that will sponsor.
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  You for a year? Yeah, It's We defy.
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  We defy. There you go.
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  And I did that last year and I got my blue belt, but man,
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  that's some tough stuff, man. I I did karate as a kid and
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  that's why I always wanted to get back to it.
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  So when this opportunity came up I'm like oh I'm all over that.
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  So but they do have a, a A class at the base which is a a jiu
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  jitsu and a Muay Thai class and it's just to you know like learn
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  about the the sports and stuff. So I'm thinking about going out
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  there and just kind of keep my, my skills sharp, you know
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  because it's it's it's it's a really reasonable price FREE.
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  And if you don't, if you don't like using a treadmill that's
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  like the best cardio workout. If you have a good partner it'll
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  be it'll be so tired. I would only have hour classes
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  and would be exhausted after an hour of just, yeah that's how we
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  practice an hour class of it, man.
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  It's hard man. When you're, you know, your
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  knees hurt, you're, you know, you're, you're back hurts, I
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  mean getting up and down for the mat, you know, doing moves up
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  and down, up and it was hard, man.
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  It was really hard. And then some of those moves,
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  I'm not the most flexible guy. So Oh yeah, that's what's hard
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  for me. Yeah.
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  If you're not flexible, it's brutal.
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  But excellent workout. Like you said, excellent
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  workout. And have.
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  You done? We do 5.
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  I have. All right.
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  Not, not like a whole year. Oh, I'll, I'll explain off
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  offline. Uh oh.
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  Yeah, we got a scandal, Brewer. No, no, I had to.
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  I had to pause it because I had a hernia surgery.
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  Oh. So yeah, that's right.
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  Yeah, Remember. You telling me that?
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  No, what was I gonna? What else you got some?
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  Something so yesterday there was news of Texas sending the
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  National Guard to the border of Texas, and Biden warned them
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  yesterday to knock it off and. What was the what was the melee?
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  I mean, what was going on? With the the federal The federal
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  court stepped in and told Biden stand down.
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  Yeah. And what was the issue on the
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  border? There's, there's, there's still.
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  That immigrant center. Yeah.
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  OK, So what the basically Texas State of Texas said enough's
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  enough, we have enough, right? You know, you know, we complain
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  about immigrants being here and I know it's an issue.
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  There's a couple of whatever they call those temporary
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  housing up there by they built some new temper housing right
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  close to my house, which I hate to say is is kind of backfiring
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  because I've I've been seeing an uptick in prostitution and and
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  drug dealing and stuff. And I don't know if they're
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  correlated, but it sure seems like they are because the minute
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  those places went up, they set up shop, you know.
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  But up the up the road like I-70 in Quebec, they have some old
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  dilapidated hotels that they're using for the the immigrants and
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  stuff. And you know, you'll go to Home
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  Depot or Walmart there, and there are people just coming up
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  to you like trying to get money and, you know, and let me get
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  your bags for you or whatever, you know, and you're like, Nah,
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  man, I'm good. I'm good.
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  And I don't know about you, but I don't like that.
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  And I don't give money. If I'll give him food, water,
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  I'll pray for him. But I don't give him money,
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  'cause I, you know, 9099.9% of the time is going to drug use or
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  alcohol or, and I'm not going to promote that.
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  But but yeah, I mean, we complain here in Colorado about
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  how many dude, could you imagine living on the border?
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  I. Mean God.
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  That just would be a nightmare. I mean, you're right there.
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  There's no way escape of escaping it.
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  Well, and we're. Thinking there's not more
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  Canadians trying to keep. It right Well.
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  I think Canadians are trying to keep us high.
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  Exactly. Yeah, exactly. 3 House Americans
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  come up here. I'll just go out there for a
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  surgery and they don't have to deal with me anymore, right?
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  And don't they have, isn't it free tuition and free healthcare
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  and all that jazz out there in Canada?
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  I think the healthcare, yeah, yeah, it was 815 though.
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  You want to head to 1st break. Yeah, sure.
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  All right. Maybe I can get clear headed.
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  Yeah. So stick.
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  Stay with us, ladies and gentlemen.
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  When we come back, we'll be talking more about these issues
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  with current issues. So we're here to all about
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  veterans. We educate.
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  We communicate, We congregate so we can proliferate.
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  What makes Ltd unique In the history of tactical, no CEO has
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  ever been. Through what I've been
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  Welcome back ladies and gentlemen.
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  Hope you enjoyed our music break.
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  Things are moving right along. A couple things, a couple of
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  announcements that I wanted to make real quick.
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  H Train and I have been discussing some some new
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  additions that we want to add to our show.
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  One of one of which we've already talked about.
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  We want to, we want to. This year, we want to implement
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  a music segment where we have live music here in studio.
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  I've already got like 5 artists lined up.
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  They're all on board. They're all excited.
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  I just need to work out the logistics and figure out what
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  equipment we need here in the studio to make sure all they
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  have to do is plug in and and perform.
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  And then the other thing that H Train and I discussed was having
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  a segment on called Vet's Corner where we have a featured vet
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  every week and they just kind of tell us their story, maybe the
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  things are struggling with or how they overcame what's been
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  working, what's not working. And so we can either, you know,
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  give them a praise report or we can dig in deep and help them
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  solve some of their issues and just kind of be a little more in
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  tune and have a one-on-one effect on a positive effect on
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  on a on a fellow veteran. So 222 exciting things we're
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  we're looking forward to and we'll keep you posted on the
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  details for that as as time progresses.
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  And you know, if it's successful, I think that for
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  Roddy's show, the Black Black, the Black Sugar Ray show, they
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  might adopt that idea as well and we might be able to like
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  share the content. I haven't talked to him yet, but
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  it's a it was a great idea when you told me when I interrupted
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  you on the mountain yesterday. Mid mid mogul this guy called.
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  Me. What are you doing?
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  You know, like and I'm expecting like, like I I was expecting him
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  to know exactly what I'm doing. What do you think?
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  What am I doing? I'm on the mountain, you know?
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  But but yeah, it was, it was a good conversation and I really
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  like the idea. That would be cool.
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  That music sounds fun too. Just seeing people join in,
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  exactly. That would be cool.
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  And you know, I found two new Internet radio stations here in
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  the Colorado area and it's just so funny that like they have a
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  studio as well. So I had reached out to them and
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  we're supposed to maybe do some spot slots or you know have them
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  on, you know, etcetera, etcetera.
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  So it's just, it's it's funny how there's something that's
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  such a need like once you find it a a comes along, you know,
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  you know, you're like well shit, you know, if only I knew.
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  You know, I spent all this time creating something, you know,
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  for it to be public and there's somebody that's doing the same
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  exact thing or or like a contract with like T-Mobile or
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  Sprint and instead of going buying a new one, you can
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  sometimes pay on somebody's account at a like a.
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  Cheaper cost. Yeah.
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  And another thing that I wanted to another project.
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  You know, H Train used to be a hell of an athlete.
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  He's a, he's a former Paralympian, You know, he went
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  to Sochi in 2014, Pretty impressive accomplishments.
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  But he's gotten so busy over the years that he hasn't really had
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  time for physical activity. So that's one of the the things
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  that I've kind of spearheaded as well.
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  And he's, he's, he's agreeing begrudgingly is 'cause everybody
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  knows it's great for your mental and physical health.
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  It really is. It's my best therapy.
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  Does my body hurt? Sure.
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  Do I hurt myself? Yeah.
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  I mean, it's part of it, but I love it and it keeps me sane and
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  it keeps me healthy. So I told H Train that I got to
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  find something that we can. Do together well, you know we we
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  can always walk you know there's a there's a perfectly good mall
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  here in the Aurora area that. That's a good point.
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  That's a good. Point though we could totally
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  you know go or I don't know have you you've been on Buckley Air
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  Force Base correct. Oh, I go every week.
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  I play the simulator out there, the golf simulator.
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  Yeah, I was going to say they have a track, like a weight room
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  track at Buckley. They have an.
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  Indoor track, it's pretty nice. It's a it's a nice facility.
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  The the only thing that I don't like about Buckley is they don't
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  have a pool, 'cause I like to swim laps, you know, being a
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  combat diver, I I'd still swim laps, but they'd have no pool
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  there. But man, is it a nice facility.
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  It's a very nice, very big, you know, I mean, they've got a lot
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  of different machines. They've got that indoor.
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  They got cardio out the butt. I mean, you you name it, they
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  have it. And racquetball courts, they got
• 27:34
  the simulator they got. What am I looking for?
• 27:39
  What's that word? What's that?
• 27:40
  It's not really new. CrossFit.
• 27:43
  They got all sorts of stuff, man, going on over there.
• 27:45
  So it's a nice facility, but they have no pool.
• 27:50
  I I I wanted to bring in my little baby pool, but they
• 27:52
  wouldn't let me. How are you going to swim laps
• 27:56
  in the baby pool? Well, you know those, remember
• 27:58
  those? They used to be so big the the
• 28:01
  forever pool. What do they call them?
• 28:02
  Or you could swim laps and you stay in one spot, kind of like a
• 28:05
  treadmill. Oh yeah, we're talking.
• 28:08
  About it's not a very big pool, but because it has propulsion,
• 28:11
  it shoves you back and so you you can swim laps.
• 28:15
  And I know they're still available, but they were a big
• 28:18
  crazier for a while. Well, I remember I'll talk where
• 28:21
  I learned to swim. It was in a pool like that.
• 28:24
  They just 'cause it's nice and shallow, so you can take you
• 28:28
  can. Stand up and I'm drowning.
• 28:30
  I'm drowning. Ma'am, stand up.
• 28:33
  Put your feet on the bottom. You're good.
• 28:37
  Yeah, my wife doesn't know how to swim, so she's that she's had
• 28:39
  that that experience several times.
• 28:41
  I'm just splash and everything. Hun stand up, Hun Hun, stand up.
• 28:47
  But yeah, we're on, we're on a fitness.
• 28:49
  We're on a fitness craze this 2024, So I got my wife who's
• 28:54
  who's on this big health kick and I've got H Train.
• 28:58
  I've got projects to do. He's getting.
• 29:01
  Everybody in shape. There we go.
• 29:03
  Well, you know. And Caveman got to be careful.
• 29:06
  We're next, yeah. You got your next well.
• 29:11
  We're going to start doing another on caveman and he's
• 29:14
  going to make us. Yeah, we're going to.
• 29:15
  Find something. For us, our work cut out for us
• 29:17
  soon, right. I'll go skiing, though.
• 29:22
  Dollar has ski or snowboard. We we got a train for Mike the
• 29:25
  Headless Chicken 5K. Oh yeah.
• 29:30
  You're going to go, am I going in the chicken costume?
• 29:33
  You're in the gorilla costume. Yeah, we got to, we got to go
• 29:36
  for a world record. Yeah, we're trying to set some
• 29:38
  world records. Well, you know what, now that I
• 29:41
  think about it, let's hit that the what the segment because we
• 29:46
  have a special 1:00 today. They're cool tats.
• 29:48
  Man. For real thank you bro.
• 29:50
  You. See the cobra and.
• 29:51
  What is this one? Oh, this.
• 29:54
  That's my credo. No regrets.
• 29:57
  You have no. Regrets, Dad.
• 29:59
  No. Like, not even a single letter.
• 30:01
  No way. Not me.
• 30:03
  I love him. I think he's great.
• 30:06
  I think he's a real winner. Casey, if I were you, I wouldn't
• 30:08
  use protection. What?
• 30:13
  The All right. So today's what the is brought
• 30:16
  to you by Caveman Sports to catch them every Wednesday.
• 30:21
  So, Oh yeah, Caveman sports. Sports in The Cave.
• 30:26
  That's me and caveman every Wednesday.
• 30:28
  So sports in The Cave, wrestling, they're out on a tour
• 30:33
  right now. They're in Australia for the
• 30:35
  Royal Rumble, that's where they're having their like, so
• 30:39
  they're having their pay-per-view.
• 30:41
  So they're on the, they're on the local news in Perth,
• 30:44
  Australia, and they had some, they had some funny stuff to
• 30:47
  say, the wrestlers, but they did not feel the same way like can.
• 30:49
  You give us one of your signature finishing moves.
• 30:52
  Can I give you one? Yeah.
• 30:53
  Can you like, not me, but can you show us one of the.
• 30:58
  No, I I think it actually just showed on the screen there.
• 31:01
  If I do that, it's not going to be a good.
• 31:03
  Maybe someone in like our our floor manager maybe he seems
• 31:06
  actually our floor manager's leaving this week.
• 31:08
  Yeah. And he's sort of, yeah.
• 31:10
  I don't know if that's that's not for me.
• 31:13
  You want to go ahead and take this one?
• 31:14
  Look. You.
• 31:18
  I. Don't think you understand.
• 31:19
  Like if I come over there right now, we're going to have the
• 31:21
  police here, 'cause I'm not going to give you some fake
• 31:22
  punch. Like I'm going to punch you
• 31:23
  straight in the jaw, the actual the disrespect that you have
• 31:26
  even talking to me. No.
• 31:27
  You want to talk to me like this?
• 31:28
  Is this? This ain't real.
• 31:30
  I've got no don't act or top lad, don't.
• 31:31
  Act or top? Don't.
• 31:32
  Get in the middle of this. You keep getting out of there,
• 31:35
  you get out of here, you get it? I'm so sorry.
• 31:37
  No, don't know. I'm too mad.
• 31:39
  You guys come here trying to disrespect that?
• 31:41
  Are you kidding me? I'm not disrespecting.
• 31:43
  You're all right, mate. No, we love you.
• 31:45
  Hey, you take that trash talk and you get out of here.
• 31:49
  You get out of here. You take that trash talk, you
• 31:50
  get out. I won't have these guests
• 31:52
  disrespected like that, Mitch. You get out.
• 31:57
  Hopefully we don't get hit for like copyright things.
• 32:01
  You know, That's the only bad thing about doing like, so
• 32:05
  TikTok is public domain, but when it's when it has like the
• 32:09
  like the logo and stuff like that, that's when they get you
• 32:13
  for like copyright. So hopefully we don't get on it.
• 32:16
  Hopefully we don't get that. But the one that I thought he
• 32:19
  was going to bring up one was the was the the car bashing.
• 32:24
  We'll we'll. Oh that that's our that's our
• 32:27
  drop the mic because it matches our it matches our intro for
• 32:30
  dropping the. Mic.
• 32:31
  Oh, OK All right. OK.
• 32:33
  Yeah, wrestlers. They do not like it when you
• 32:35
  tell them that their sport is fake.
• 32:37
  Oh yeah, the the F word. The F word is is forbidden upon.
• 32:41
  That was, that was actually what my my teacher at CMS was telling
• 32:46
  me. He's like, I know you're a big
• 32:47
  sports guy. If you're ever in the viewing a
• 32:49
  wrestler, you never tell them. Never ask them if it's fake,
• 32:52
  yeah. 'Cause they'll take you outside
• 32:53
  and school you or they'll want to take.
• 32:55
  You they'll be like I'll I'll show you how fake it is and body
• 32:58
  slam you and then you don't have a ring or like a a, not like the
• 33:03
  the floor of a ring is is soft by any means but there's at
• 33:07
  least a little padding. They'll just do it right on the
• 33:10
  right, on the floor of concrete, hardwood, whatever you're on.
• 33:14
  Yeah. How's that feel for you?
• 33:16
  Does that feel fake to you? I.
• 33:18
  Feel pretty fake, right? It'd be like the scene that we
• 33:21
  saw last week when you guys shared the Buffalo Bills going
• 33:25
  through the fire lit tables. Oh yeah, all bills stands.
• 33:29
  Were amazing, I saw. Yeah, if you're a folding cable
• 33:33
  in the City of Buffalo, like, count your days, yes.
• 33:36
  Saw you. It was a comment on Pat Mcafee's
• 33:40
  TikTok Live. So, like, they didn't even have
• 33:43
  a chance to see it. But it was in all caps that
• 33:45
  Bill's Mafia is going to put Taylor Swift through a table.
• 33:51
  And then people were responding like, Oh yeah, it's going to be
• 33:54
  like the Dudley boys and Mae Young.
• 33:57
  They just put her through a table.
• 34:00
  Yeah, you know, I I never got into the Dudley Boys.
• 34:03
  I and I just, I I never got into that like character.
• 34:06
  You know, there's certain characters or certain wrestlers
• 34:09
  that you get into. That's true that you don't get
• 34:12
  into, you know? Like the Viking guys, it's 2024
• 34:16
  and they're Vikings and they don't talk.
• 34:17
  It doesn't make any sense. It makes no sense.
• 34:22
  Like the the, the worst one was Tugboat.
• 34:26
  OK, Tugboat. The WF was pushing him so much.
• 34:31
  And what kind of name is Tugboat?
• 34:34
  Not a good one, that is. That is the old school
• 34:37
  wrestling, like the golden age when they used to do like live
• 34:41
  concerts and every and every episode I'll have to find a clip
• 34:45
  for next week. But they had like, all the
• 34:48
  wrestlers were out on stage. Like it was a whole sing along.
• 34:52
  Even Vince McMahon would go out there and like do a musical
• 34:54
  number. Really.
• 34:56
  Yeah, it was. It's some weird stuff watching
• 34:59
  it. That's wild.
• 35:01
  Is he still involved, or is his son running into the show now?
• 35:03
  I think, I think he's not involved.
• 35:06
  It is. Well, he's kind of involved, but
• 35:08
  the main head of, like, creative and talent right now is Triple H
• 35:13
  Paul Leveque. Oh, OK.
• 35:15
  And before I forget, I've got I I received news yesterday around
• 35:22
  10:30 PM that one of my best friends who very, very close to
• 35:32
  he was a groomsman in my wedding.
• 35:34
  His father has found out that he has stage 4 liver cancer.
• 35:40
  So my prayers and my hearts go out to the Belk family.
• 35:50
  You was there. You was there for me with my
• 35:53
  mom, and I will be there for you for your dad's brother.
• 35:58
  So I didn't mean to damn from the show.
• 36:02
  I just. I I felt I needed to push that
• 36:05
  out before you forgot. Yeah.
• 36:08
  Good point to bring up, though. Yeah, good.
• 36:10
  Definitely worthy, Worthy interruption.
• 36:13
  We have another what the moment Mercury, during our break, found
• 36:16
  a pretty interesting article. Yeah, so this one's crazy.
• 36:20
  OK, so the New York Post, they they just put out an article
• 36:26
  today. I believe.
• 36:28
  Or no, this was yesterday that says vaping does not harm
• 36:34
  pregnant women or babies in a shocking study.
• 36:38
  And so it was new research, new research from Queen Maryland
• 36:43
  University of London that found that vaping during pregnancy
• 36:48
  helped expecting mothers quit cigarettes without posing any
• 36:51
  detectable risks to pregnancy. That's about it.
• 36:55
  It's a very short article. It's over 2 paragraphs and.
• 37:00
  That must be off of a liberal website.
• 37:03
  What's the New York Post or whether?
• 37:05
  Oh, that's, yeah, that's, that's like the new Enquirer.
• 37:10
  Yeah, it's like The Enquirer said.
• 37:12
  Oh. Shit, this feels like a very
• 37:13
  like paid for by Big Big Vape. Yeah, I was.
• 37:17
  Gonna say paid for by whatever company owns owns most of the
• 37:21
  vape vape products. I'm sure this.
• 37:22
  Isn't out of The Enquirer or no? Right, well, if I'm not mistaken
• 37:27
  I'd have to look it up, but I'm pretty sure that The Enquirer
• 37:31
  they just changed names 'cause that's it.
• 37:34
  I mean, that's what it looks like.
• 37:37
  Am I wrong or? Yeah, no, that's what it looks
• 37:41
  like from what? From what that article is
• 37:42
  saying. That's a little.
• 37:44
  It's a little too little, too similar.
• 37:46
  A little too farfetched. Like somebody was was on the
• 37:51
  deadline and needed to get something out quick.
• 37:53
  And they're like, what's the weird or I guess.
• 37:55
  They're saying that. They're like I don't have a word
• 37:57
  limit, but I just need to generate some place.
• 38:00
  So here we go. It's.
• 38:01
  A better I mean, maybe they're saying it's a better option in
• 38:03
  lieu of cigarettes that you vape.
• 38:06
  And that The thing is, they said no detectable.
• 38:09
  The operative word there. Oh Mike.
• 38:12
  Well, how many undetectable things that might pop up later?
• 38:16
  Yeah that's true. That's so dumb.
• 38:19
  Well it's like recently I read an article about a bottled water
• 38:22
  they did, they did this research study on bottled water and they
• 38:25
  took like three or three or five top name bottled waters and they
• 38:30
  analyzed them and they found micro.
• 38:33
  So microscopic is, you know, can't see it with the other
• 38:36
  microsoap. And then nano particles are
• 38:40
  smaller than that, they're smaller than and they found
• 38:43
  hundreds and hundreds of pieces of plastic in the water.
• 38:48
  So they continued their research and they in their investigations
• 38:52
  and they found it in meat and they found it in veggies and
• 38:55
  they found it. Oh yeah, microplastics aren't
• 38:58
  that kind of thing. It's getting to the point it's
• 39:00
  going to be in the rain soon, so if you're not safe anywhere you
• 39:05
  go. We're all just full of micro
• 39:08
  plastics. You know and you know it passes
• 39:12
  fine. I I haven't.
• 39:13
  I'm regulars. I'll get out now.
• 39:16
  Doesn't doesn't plug me up or anything.
• 39:18
  So that's a good thing. Oh man.
• 39:23
  And then I'm not sure if you heard of vet vet's aide.
• 39:28
  Have you heard that Joe Walsh? You know who Joe Walsh is,
• 39:30
  right? From the Eagles, James Gang.
• 39:35
  Come on now. No, not a.
• 39:37
  Rock'n'roll. Aficionado.
• 39:39
  Well, no. So I like rock'n'roll music, but
• 39:42
  like, I don't really know. Like the history, I mean.
• 39:46
  Well, he's a Rock and roll hall of.
• 39:47
  Fame, I know Axel Rose is, you know, the lead singer, Guns and
• 39:50
  Roses. But like Guns and Roses, like
• 39:54
  the first album, I liked every song on it, you know?
• 40:00
  Very seldom do you get an album like you like every song, or am
• 40:05
  I wrong? Oh, no, there's.
• 40:07
  Certain albums, yeah, I like every song on the album.
• 40:09
  So anyways, Joe Walsh started this nonprofit called Vet's Aid
• 40:15
  and I believe like seven or eight years ago and he's doing,
• 40:20
  he does a a benefit concert every year.
• 40:24
  And so this year and it's based on what I'm reading here, it
• 40:28
  seems like it's primarily on the West Coast in California.
• 40:32
  But it says rock'n'roll of Famer Joe Walsh, along with an All
• 40:35
  Star lineup is set to perform in San Diego this fall to raise
• 40:38
  money for Vets Aid. Vets Aid will feature Jeff Flynn
• 40:41
  from ELO, Flaming Lips, the War on Drugs, Lucius, and Stephen
• 40:46
  Stills. So yeah, 7th Annual Vets Aid
• 40:49
  Concert will be held November 12th.
• 40:52
  Oh, nice, at the North Island Credit Union Amphitheater.
• 40:56
  The Walsh LED nonprofit, which benefits charity organizations
• 40:59
  at eight U.S. military veterans, has dispersed 3 million in
• 41:03
  grants since its inception in 2017.
• 41:05
  So pretty good stuff going. I'd never heard of Vet's aid,
• 41:10
  so. I haven't either and I've.
• 41:11
  Always liked Joe Walsh, so I I thought it was pretty worth
• 41:15
  mentioning that you know he's he's he's gone on board with you
• 41:19
  know he's he's on board with doing his part you know using
• 41:23
  his influence to further the cause so.
• 41:27
  You know and. Power to the people.
• 41:29
  Exactly, exactly. Well, I appreciate when veterans
• 41:36
  use their spotlight to do stuff and to help other veterans.
• 41:43
  One guy from Star Wars, Adam Driver, he's a former.
• 41:49
  Well, he he was a Marine. He's also, yeah, he's also Kaye,
• 41:56
  you know, he's the actor for Star Wars Kylo.
• 41:59
  Ren. Yeah, Kylo Ren and he goes to,
• 42:06
  he goes to fans houses and takes them like Star Wars stuff or
• 42:10
  visits them, especially veterans are in the hospital and stuff.
• 42:15
  He's, you know, giving us time. So that's another one that I
• 42:19
  know that's you know, real big into that and you know we need
• 42:23
  that, we really do, you know. And and and non veterans alike.
• 42:29
  I mean, like Joe Walsh, I I don't believe he's a veteran,
• 42:31
  but that they use their influence and their and their
• 42:34
  fame to for a worthy cause. I mean that's that's always a
• 42:38
  near and dear to my heart, 'cause that means that they care
• 42:41
  and they want to give back, you know, in a in a in a in a true
• 42:45
  manner. So that's off to them.
• 42:51
  Yeah, that's definitely a great way to do it.
• 42:53
  Yeah, definitely. Before we get into this
• 42:56
  interview though, I do want to show you guys this video.
• 43:00
  OK. Drop the mic.
• 43:03
  I'll play, I'll play the drop the mic intro, but I want to
• 43:06
  give a little back story. So in Lincoln, NE was a
• 43:10
  disgruntled employee at some some place, some business.
• 43:15
  But he got in a skid steer like a bobcat skit loader and he just
• 43:19
  started destroying cars in the parking lot.
• 43:22
  So let's let's see this one in a second.
• 43:25
  Well, don't worry. Don't worry, I'm.
• 43:30
  Not going to do what you all. Think I'm going to do we just
• 43:49
  guys going crazy with the skid loader?
• 44:03
  Holy shit. Kill Dozer.
• 44:39
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right away.
• 44:42
  I'll be Granby, man. Yeah.
• 44:43
  Granby. That was here, Yeah.
• 44:45
  That was. Here.
• 44:46
  Well, you kill Dozer Junior right there.
• 44:48
  Yeah, he didn't. He didn't.
• 44:50
  He just. He didn't just fight.
• 44:52
  Like the other guy did, but yeah, the same same thing.
• 44:54
  Well, me and Caveman was talking through brake and we were
• 44:57
  talking and we were saying about, I think it was like maybe
• 45:01
  two or three months ago there was a disgruntled like worker
• 45:05
  that was using a car, just braking different, you know,
• 45:09
  wrecking in the different car, you know, cars and stuff.
• 45:12
  So it's it's funny that this is happening.
• 45:17
  The proud tradition continues. Yeah.
• 45:24
  That was just hilarious, quite entertaining.
• 45:26
  How do you, how do you get your hands on that type of equipment
• 45:30
  to just destroy a cop car and all the other cars in the lot
• 45:34
  too? There's another video I saw
• 45:36
  later, somebody just taking a video of their cars just
• 45:39
  completely destroyed. The trunk was all bashed in,
• 45:44
  just everything on the. So I would love to fly on the
• 45:46
  air and find out. You know what precipitated this?
• 45:51
  Well, to give some context on how this might have happened, I
• 45:55
  had something I used to be friends with.
• 45:57
  When I tell the story, you'll kind of understand why I'm not
• 45:59
  friends with him anymore. But he he got in trouble with
• 46:04
  the law because him and the somebody.
• 46:07
  I wasn't there when this all happened to him and some other
• 46:09
  buddies. No, I can't.
• 46:12
  Hand to God I I wasn't there. I swear.
• 46:15
  I'm my Mama. They they went to a construction
• 46:19
  site and like they just found like they leave the keys and
• 46:22
  some of these things. So they.
• 46:25
  They took, this is like 2 in the morning or something.
• 46:28
  They just took one of these things for a joyride.
• 46:31
  But they ended up getting like caught and yeah, they all had to
• 46:35
  to go to the court. And I think they caught like a
• 46:37
  felony. Oh.
• 46:38
  My God. So yeah, if there was one of
• 46:42
  those things parked out by where he worked, I could see him just
• 46:47
  locking up whoever was operating and they just left the keys in
• 46:50
  there. He was like, well, I'm gonna go
• 46:53
  start trashing some people's cars, 'cause I'm pissed.
• 46:56
  Yeah, it makes sense. They would keep the keys in
• 46:59
  there, 'cause they kind of just like drop pick up shop the next
• 47:02
  day from where they're at. But Dang this out in the open
• 47:07
  like that. Any random person, they honestly
• 47:10
  had control of that thing. They were moving the the arm up
• 47:12
  and down pretty good while they were spinning so they could ram
• 47:16
  into the cop car. I mean that's some talent right
• 47:19
  there. Yeah, it is.
• 47:20
  So he's he's not a, he's not a normal operator.
• 47:22
  He just kind of just got on that skid loader and started.
• 47:26
  Yeah, Yeah. Kind of like like if a customer
• 47:29
  got on Home Depot, that ladder thing, you know?
• 47:33
  That's, yeah, scissor ladder. All right.
• 47:35
  You know what? That that's going to be our next
• 47:36
  field trip. You're going to, you're going to
• 47:38
  get on the ladder and we're going to see how long it takes
• 47:40
  for someone to say something and we're just going to video it,
• 47:43
  you know? Well, I'll see those unattended
• 47:46
  in the Home Depot. It's tempting.
• 47:48
  You know, it's tempting. You got to fight the the demons
• 47:51
  there and you're like God, don't, don't climb it, don't do
• 47:53
  it. So are we at we're 8. 48. 45.
• 47:59
  OK, well I guess it's that time we go on a a a music break and
• 48:05
  then when we come back, top of the hour, we're speaking to
• 48:10
  Damien Smith The True. Story band?
• 48:13
  Yes. Stay tuned folks.
• 48:15
  It's exciting. We wrote a song together, he and
• 48:17
  I, and he's a professional musician.
• 48:20
  Looking forward to this interview?
• 48:21
  We'll be right back the. Welcome back, ladies and
• 51:55
  gentlemen. We hope everybody's having a
• 51:57
  good day today and we're excited because we're getting ready to
• 52:03
  have our guests. So a little more background.
• 52:07
  I met Damian Smith this past summer.
• 52:10
  He's from Aspen Co and there is a we had Mack Bailey on here a
• 52:17
  couple about a month ago and he runs a nonprofit called Music
• 52:21
  Therapy of the Rockies and Damian was one of the
• 52:28
  professional singer songwriters that participated and he and I
• 52:31
  were teamed up and it was awesome.
• 52:34
  I mean we we clipped from the get go.
• 52:36
  We're relatively, you know, I'm, I'm always the oldest guy in the
• 52:39
  room, but we're relatively the same generation and had a lot of
• 52:44
  the same similar upbringings. And so it was an excellent
• 52:48
  experience and he has been just awesome.
• 52:52
  I mean this guy does a lot of events and concerts and
• 52:58
  recordings and even though he had this really busy schedule,
• 53:02
  he still made time for me to complete my song.
• 53:05
  And you know, 'cause it's a, it's a, it's a, you get it.
• 53:09
  You get 2, let's say probably about 3 hour sessions.
• 53:11
  So six hours in total to come up with a song that's that's that's
• 53:15
  a that's a daunting task and then Sunday evening you
• 53:20
  performed a little mini concert so but he he helped me Polish it
• 53:24
  up and and and get everything straight and and and we had such
• 53:28
  a great time we're going to collaborate on some future songs
• 53:30
  so excited about that as well. Awesome.
• 53:34
  Well, ladies and gentlemen, not without further ado.
• 53:38
  And it's our interview of the week.
• 53:53
  Welcome in. Hey.
• 53:54
  What's? Going.
• 53:55
  On how you doing? It's nice to see you, Vicente.
• 53:58
  How are you bud? You too, man.
• 54:00
  You look sexy as hell. That's.
• 54:03
  Too sexy for the Internet, I can tell you that.
• 54:08
  Yeah. So, so glad that you joined us
• 54:11
  this morning. It's an honor to be here.
• 54:13
  Really. Thank you.
• 54:15
  Yeah, and I know that you're a really busy guy.
• 54:17
  So could you give us a little background, you know, whatever
• 54:21
  you feel pertinent and and about yourself and and then we'll go
• 54:27
  from there. There's not much to tell you.
• 54:30
  I was born in Chicago. I got started in music because
• 54:32
  my dad was a musician and opera singer, sang with the lyric
• 54:37
  opera there for many, many years and taught in the public schools
• 54:41
  during the day and sang at night.
• 54:45
  And so music was really in the house at all times, especially
• 54:49
  when he was working on a particularly challenging role
• 54:53
  for the opera. You know, in those days, records
• 54:57
  were the thing. And so an LP would go on the
• 54:59
  turntable and we would hear it all day long over and over again
• 55:04
  as he internalized this music. And so exposure to the classical
• 55:09
  stuff was a natural thing. And I think a combination of
• 55:15
  seeing his work on stage and his production work and the infusion
• 55:21
  of the combination of the infusion of that and classic
• 55:24
  rock and roll, especially The Beatles during that time in 1953
• 55:30
  and during that era, you know, you know, there was a lot of
• 55:35
  that coming into the house. And so I think it was the the
• 55:38
  combination of watching him work in real time and seeing, you
• 55:42
  know, what was happening with classic rock at the time wasn't
• 55:45
  classic rock at the time, it was just rock'n'roll.
• 55:48
  And those two things were incredibly motivational.
• 55:52
  So I got into music at a very young age, and I've been
• 55:55
  fortunate now for the last 40 or so years to be doing music, you
• 56:01
  know, exclusively as my income and as my as my job.
• 56:05
  And that's a very rare thing for a lot of people.
• 56:09
  A lot of people get into it as a hobby and a way to express
• 56:13
  themselves on the side from what they're, you know, as a
• 56:16
  diversion of what they really have to do to get food on the
• 56:19
  table. But I've been very fortunate,
• 56:20
  Vicente, that music has allowed me to, you know, support myself
• 56:27
  and my family all these years. And, you know, one of the great
• 56:32
  things was actually our experience together.
• 56:34
  You know, that was like, it's truly a transformative thing for
• 56:38
  me and very profound thing for me to meet you and to experience
• 56:43
  what we experience at Windwalkers Ranch when we got
• 56:45
  together last summer. Incredible.
• 56:49
  Especially, you know, you and I working on our stuff and looking
• 56:52
  across the room and seeing the other musicians and the other
• 56:56
  vets, you know, working on honing their song and getting
• 56:59
  their song compiled and pulled together, You know, It's hard
• 57:04
  not to be touched and motivated by that kind of thing, you know?
• 57:09
  It is really touching experience, you're right.
• 57:11
  It was amazing time. That was your first time, yes.
• 57:14
  Yeah, you know Mac Bailey, who's a dear guy and and an incredible
• 57:18
  leader of that whole thing. That whole music therapy of the
• 57:21
  Rockies program. He had asked me for many years
• 57:24
  before then, Vicente, to come up and and work in that format.
• 57:30
  And, you know, my performance schedule is so busy.
• 57:33
  Between that and what's going on in the studio here and all the
• 57:37
  other challenges that are involved with being a dad and,
• 57:40
  you know, all the other stuff that I'm sure you're well aware
• 57:42
  of, it was very hard to kind of get it to swing with my
• 57:46
  schedule. And last year, last summer, I
• 57:49
  just realized it was time to clear the schedule.
• 57:53
  And I'm finally in a position with some of the gigs that I do
• 57:56
  regularly where I can find a suitable sub for the gig that
• 58:00
  will allow me to take time off to do those types of things.
• 58:05
  And so I was able to shuffle the schedule around, which allowed
• 58:10
  us to get together, allowed me to meet you and and get involved
• 58:13
  with the music therapy program. And you know, as I've told Mac
• 58:17
  several times as I've worked with him since then, honestly
• 58:21
  Vicente, I I really don't want to know what life is like
• 58:24
  without it from here on in. You know, it was that it was
• 58:27
  that profound for me. And and as you've said many
• 58:31
  times during our conversations, during the whole process of it,
• 58:34
  you know there's a reason why we were brought together and you
• 58:39
  know you're you're shining like Justice song that you wrote is
• 58:44
  just a small example of what the potential of that program is.
• 58:48
  And it really shows not only how much it helps the songwriters
• 58:54
  but it also helps the people who are contributing in in really
• 59:00
  putting some serious value on what we do.
• 59:02
  And Mac has created an amazing program and I I really have to
• 59:08
  encourage anybody out there who has a need to express themselves
• 59:13
  to get involved with this reach out and get involved with the
• 59:19
  people that can put you on the path to getting your song or
• 59:22
  your idea or your message across because the impact was massive.
• 59:28
  I I work on hundreds of songs a year.
• 59:31
  This the song that we worked on was a huge standout it it was a
• 59:34
  major impact on me and continues to be and and so you know I
• 59:42
  would encourage anybody out there who has a message or
• 59:44
  feelings that they need to express to get involved with
• 59:47
  this and also your soldiers your your program that you do in
• 59:51
  Denver Tongues. And voices.
• 59:52
  Yeah, I mean these are very important outlets for expression
• 59:58
  and healing because if you're, you know if you're carrying
• 1:00:02
  around the weight of of your experiences and you want to
• 1:00:07
  share them or get involved with helping others to share them the
• 1:00:13
  the therapeutic aspect of what's going on.
• 1:00:16
  With with Mac's program and your program in Denver cannot be
• 1:00:20
  overstated. They are huge steps to healing,
• 1:00:25
  huge steps to moving on and becoming the version of yourself
• 1:00:30
  that is the best version you can have at the moment, you know.
• 1:00:34
  And in in the world today, we need to latch on to as much of
• 1:00:37
  that as we can, you know. Exactly.
• 1:00:40
  Well said, Well said. And you know, a lot of people
• 1:00:42
  think, oh, I'll have to be be musically inclined, right.
• 1:00:45
  I've never saw. Doesn't matter.
• 1:00:47
  There's people from all walks that come in and participate in
• 1:00:51
  these programs. Don't let that be a deterrent
• 1:00:54
  from you getting involved. What a what a great thing to
• 1:00:57
  say. I I really, honestly thought
• 1:00:58
  that a lot of the other people that expressed themselves that
• 1:01:01
  weekend were not Fluent Guitar players.
• 1:01:03
  They were not fluent musicians. All they had was their story,
• 1:01:07
  right? And.
• 1:01:10
  You know, but you know, you roasted the occasion.
• 1:01:13
  I, I, I specifically remember the first session we did.
• 1:01:18
  We had nothing. Vicente.
• 1:01:19
  We we had a couple ideas about where to go.
• 1:01:22
  And I think the thing that struck me most profoundly about
• 1:01:25
  that is that you and I both being kind of the oldest horses
• 1:01:29
  in the stall there. You know, we were we were
• 1:01:33
  counting on on really just experience and and and the need
• 1:01:38
  to kind of to express something. And I I was really touched by
• 1:01:43
  the idea that because of your level of experience that you
• 1:01:47
  chose to do a song and and put forth a message that was a
• 1:01:52
  tribute to your mom. Because that really goes back to
• 1:01:55
  what provided you with strength during times when things were
• 1:02:00
  challenging, either either as a soldier or as a a parent or
• 1:02:05
  human being in the crazy race that we're in.
• 1:02:09
  You know, I found it really touching that you use that
• 1:02:12
  platform to, you know, express a tribute to your mom and the
• 1:02:16
  strength that she infused in you.
• 1:02:19
  Because honestly, I think when we're feeling weak and we're
• 1:02:22
  down, those are the types of things that we can key into.
• 1:02:27
  Even if there's small incremental things, these are
• 1:02:32
  very important in helping us take one step towards healing,
• 1:02:36
  you know, and once more step towards transformation.
• 1:02:39
  None of it all happens because of one thing.
• 1:02:42
  It's a combination of things, and we've talked about this
• 1:02:45
  before that it's really like the perfect storm of elements that
• 1:02:51
  provide an opportunity to transform and to grow and to
• 1:02:55
  heal. And you know me getting involved
• 1:02:59
  with Mack and finally making the time and then being paired with
• 1:03:03
  you and then seeing the amount of sincerity that you had with
• 1:03:06
  your message. All of these things contributed
• 1:03:10
  to what remains A lasting friendship and A and a very, you
• 1:03:16
  know, rewarding medium of helping people to realize their
• 1:03:22
  vision, you know, realize their, their idea in their head,
• 1:03:26
  whether it's a handful of chords put together or a handful of
• 1:03:30
  verses put together. You know, we had nothing at the
• 1:03:34
  beginning of that experience there.
• 1:03:36
  Vicente and I sent you back to do a little bit of homework on a
• 1:03:40
  couple of things that you needed to kind of come up with.
• 1:03:42
  And I showed up the next day and you were ready to go.
• 1:03:45
  And that really got us over the first step, because if we all
• 1:03:50
  know that first step is pretty, pretty tall, the ones
• 1:03:53
  afterwards, the ones afterwards, get a little bit more
• 1:03:56
  surmountable as we go. And and I remember that one of
• 1:04:01
  Max volunteers who was kind of assigned to you and I SAT and
• 1:04:07
  made notes. You know, we're making notes the
• 1:04:09
  whole time while we were doing this program.
• 1:04:12
  And at the end he was so sweet because he came out and said,
• 1:04:14
  look, I have the on this piece of paper, no idea, you know, at
• 1:04:18
  the very beginning of the process, no idea just yet.
• 1:04:22
  And then once we got over that first step of realizing what
• 1:04:27
  kind of material we needed to to crystallize this vision, you
• 1:04:31
  stepped up and we're able to put the, you know come to the table
• 1:04:36
  in the next morning with the things that I mentioned to you
• 1:04:38
  are going to be kind of required in the basic songwriting thing,
• 1:04:42
  the songwriting format. So you know it, it, it took you
• 1:04:46
  out of your comfort zone and created a a different way of
• 1:04:49
  looking at things for you. And I think once we do that
• 1:04:53
  those kind of distractions and those tasks you know are really
• 1:04:57
  valuable because they take your mind off the problem and put
• 1:05:01
  your mind more into a solution based mindset.
• 1:05:05
  And boy howdy, you know, I mean going into the barn with all
• 1:05:08
  that hay and sitting around and the quiet with our guitars was
• 1:05:13
  so conducive to being able to get that out, you know, and get
• 1:05:16
  it crystallized and get it kind of formed.
• 1:05:18
  Push the poop into a pile as it were, you know.
• 1:05:21
  And we were, we were able to to we got very lucky and so did the
• 1:05:26
  other vets involved in this. I was so impressed by their
• 1:05:31
  willingness to share their their pain or their their healing or
• 1:05:35
  whatever aspect of it you want to focus on it.
• 1:05:39
  It was an amazing experience. I really have to, again, just
• 1:05:45
  motivate and and express to your listeners and anybody out there
• 1:05:49
  who is trying to express what they're feeling, to get involved
• 1:05:52
  with programs like this and to not let lack of musical
• 1:05:56
  experience or a musical acumen get in the way, You know, John
• 1:06:00
  Lennon said some great stuff about songwriting.
• 1:06:03
  Say what you feel, make it rhyme and put a beat behind it and
• 1:06:07
  there it is. There it is and there it is.
• 1:06:10
  Man, you know, he was a smart guy.
• 1:06:12
  He knew what he was talking about when it came to writing
• 1:06:13
  songs. So, you know, I would just say
• 1:06:17
  that the overall, the overall message that I have from that
• 1:06:21
  experience just goes out to anybody out there, veteran or
• 1:06:25
  not, that if you have something you need to say, this is a great
• 1:06:29
  medium in which to do it and it's very rewarding.
• 1:06:32
  And even though it might, you might feel trepidation at the
• 1:06:35
  beginning of it because of lack of experience or any of that.
• 1:06:38
  You know, we all gained something and we all enjoy the
• 1:06:43
  process of getting better at something and watching ourselves
• 1:06:46
  improve and we're all trying to be the best versions of who we
• 1:06:50
  can be. And these are vehicles in which
• 1:06:54
  we can do that. And and they may seem like small
• 1:06:58
  increments and they may seem like small steps, but they're
• 1:07:01
  steps forward. And that's what this is all
• 1:07:04
  about, you know, And until you do that, you know you're kind of
• 1:07:08
  running in place. So it does take a little bit of
• 1:07:11
  self motivation or a good kick in the rear by somebody close to
• 1:07:15
  you to say go do this, you know, go go do this because you're
• 1:07:19
  going to be happy regardless of what the quality and a big
• 1:07:23
  musical level is going to be with the final product.
• 1:07:26
  It's what it does for you. Here is really what it's all
• 1:07:29
  about. And you know, of all the magical
• 1:07:31
  things that happened to him in these, in these events, I think
• 1:07:36
  for me, one of the most profound is to see, like you said, you
• 1:07:40
  know, you come in there, 9099% of us come in there with the
• 1:07:43
  trepidation. We're nervous, you know, we're
• 1:07:46
  we're insecure. We're quiet, reserved, you know,
• 1:07:49
  And by the end of the man we have just blossomed.
• 1:07:52
  And it's just so cool to see. Yeah, you you got it.
• 1:07:58
  Yeah. I mean, there's more to it than
• 1:08:00
  the music, you know, And we experienced that together,
• 1:08:04
  Vicente, in real time. And you know, I was so moved.
• 1:08:09
  What what to Just to explain to your viewers and your listeners
• 1:08:12
  that you know when we did this, we blasted a version of the
• 1:08:16
  song, as done as we could have it at the time into your phone.
• 1:08:21
  And we recorded a quick version of us both playing acoustic
• 1:08:23
  guitars and singing the harmonies together into your
• 1:08:26
  phone. And you know that helped us to
• 1:08:30
  kind of have a little template to work from, especially for the
• 1:08:33
  showcase portion of the program, which was at, as you said at the
• 1:08:36
  end when everybody gathered in the big barn and we everybody
• 1:08:41
  played, told their stories and played their song with their
• 1:08:44
  accompanist and and got it done. I I was so moved by this
• 1:08:49
  experience that when I got home, you know, this studio I'm in is
• 1:08:54
  a functioning studio and it has been for many years and I
• 1:08:57
  recorded and produced a lot of music here, all different kind
• 1:09:00
  of stuff, Broadway commercials, voiceovers, everything.
• 1:09:06
  But what I have here is an amazing toolkit that allows me
• 1:09:09
  to put together things around ideas.
• 1:09:12
  So if we need a drum beat, we can find that.
• 1:09:14
  If we need bass parts, we can play them, you know?
• 1:09:18
  Same with all the other instrumentation.
• 1:09:20
  And I was so moved by what we did that I came home unbeknownst
• 1:09:26
  to you and just began to build a track around our song and, you
• 1:09:31
  know, came up with the kind of feel that I thought would be
• 1:09:33
  appropriate for it. The kind of groove that it
• 1:09:37
  needed, the kind of sort of skeleton that we that I thought
• 1:09:41
  was appropriate for the fuel of the tune.
• 1:09:42
  And then slowly but surely began to flesh it out by putting
• 1:09:45
  guitar parts on it and keys and some bass stuff and pretty soon
• 1:09:49
  it sounds like a band playing your song.
• 1:09:52
  Just to explain to your listeners.
• 1:09:53
  I then tasked you with singing your part into your phone and
• 1:09:58
  sending me the the, the WAV file of your vocal take.
• 1:10:03
  And after we did a few takes of that, you know, and got
• 1:10:06
  something that that I could work with and edit with.
• 1:10:09
  You know, I just placed it inside the track and began to
• 1:10:14
  kind of edit and put it together and make it work.
• 1:10:16
  And as as you said, you know, make you sound like the rock
• 1:10:19
  star that you are, you know and and you know it was a real treat
• 1:10:25
  to put that together. You know, I do that as as part
• 1:10:28
  of my income. You know, that's what I do for a
• 1:10:30
  living is help people, you know, realize their ideas, whether
• 1:10:34
  there's commercial idea or something personal or something
• 1:10:37
  like what we're doing. And so it was a pleasure to put
• 1:10:40
  it all together and to watch it, as you say, blossom and become
• 1:10:45
  something that was actually a bit bigger than what we started
• 1:10:48
  with. You know it really did take on a
• 1:10:49
  life of its own and and a great song will do that.
• 1:10:54
  You know a great sincere idea will do that and that as I think
• 1:10:58
  what I keyed into as a production guy, as a music guy
• 1:11:02
  with the sincerity of everybody's idea from that
• 1:11:06
  weekend, not just yours and mine but everyone who was involved in
• 1:11:10
  that. All the lyrics came from the
• 1:11:12
  heart. All the chord changes came from
• 1:11:14
  the heart. And that is something that's so
• 1:11:17
  desperately missing from popular music right now is actual vibe.
• 1:11:21
  You know actual sincerity. And I think that's what I keyed
• 1:11:26
  into was the amount of just heartfelt feeling and
• 1:11:30
  expression. You know and and you know, we
• 1:11:35
  cannot deny the medicinal, therapeutic quality of what that
• 1:11:39
  process brought us and what the final result was.
• 1:11:43
  And I I'm so curious to know what your mom thought of that
• 1:11:47
  and what the reaction was. Yeah, it's funny you say that,
• 1:11:49
  cause. And and I told myself I wasn't
• 1:11:51
  going to cry, but my, you know, soldier songs and voices had a
• 1:11:59
  9/11 memorial event where we, you know, the performers, we had
• 1:12:05
  people from different chapters in the United States.
• 1:12:09
  And I performed that song for my mom and she cried, dude.
• 1:12:14
  And I was just so touched. I I didn't think I was going to
• 1:12:16
  be able to get through it, 'cause I saw her all the time,
• 1:12:20
  you know? Hey Jamie, we're we're trying to
• 1:12:22
  search for your website. Can you tell us the what your
• 1:12:26
  website is so that we can bring that up and share that with
• 1:12:29
  everybody? Sure.
• 1:12:31
  It's called Damian Smith music. DAMIANSMITH, music.com.
• 1:12:38
  There's all sorts of stuff in there.
• 1:12:41
  Music samples, video samples, you can buy music that I've
• 1:12:47
  made, you know it's it. It functions as the usual thing
• 1:12:52
  for somebody who is self-employed trying to self
• 1:12:55
  promote. But hopefully it's accessible
• 1:12:59
  and you can find it. But I encourage anybody to get
• 1:13:02
  involved with that if they like, if that's if you go for that
• 1:13:04
  kind of thing. We're getting ready to, we're
• 1:13:08
  getting ready to share it now and you know, you can kind of
• 1:13:11
  walk us through, you know, different things, especially
• 1:13:15
  like your demos and stuff. Other radio stations can pick
• 1:13:21
  that up as well. And Damian's one of the featured
• 1:13:24
  artists that has agreed to come into studio here in this year
• 1:13:28
  sometime and perform. Oh yeah, I will.
• 1:13:32
  We love that. Last time it was Tim Rock that.
• 1:13:41
  Oh, so, Damian, real quick as as he's getting that up, did your
• 1:13:43
  dad, Was there ever any prodding from your dad is to fall in his
• 1:13:48
  operatic footsteps? Absolutely not.
• 1:13:52
  He tried to discourage me. He just, he just, he would.
• 1:13:56
  He spent more energy at the onset of my interest in music,
• 1:13:59
  trying to discourage me from getting involved in the music
• 1:14:03
  business because it's a very difficult business to be
• 1:14:07
  successful at. It's really, really hard.
• 1:14:09
  And for a lot of years I kind of resented his resistance to my
• 1:14:14
  involvement in it. But I realized what he was
• 1:14:18
  actually doing was was trying to see my level of motivation.
• 1:14:22
  He was really just testing my metal.
• 1:14:25
  Back in those days, we still had LP records, you know, vinyl
• 1:14:29
  albums. And I came home with one that I
• 1:14:34
  had made with a band called Mr. Myers, amazing Caribbean rock
• 1:14:38
  band that still endures after 40 plus years, an incredible cat
• 1:14:43
  named Todd Donnelly who was involved in runs that band.
• 1:14:46
  He gave me my first real shot at at a professional gig and Todd
• 1:14:53
  was very generous with his time and his patience because I was
• 1:14:56
  quite the young upstart. In any case, I came home with
• 1:14:58
  that record in 1984 and that he went OK, nice.
• 1:15:06
  He looked at it and kind of put it in his in his bookcase with
• 1:15:09
  the rest of the records and and he didn't really get too much
• 1:15:13
  acknowledgement from him. And then I made another one and
• 1:15:17
  brought that home. And then I made another one and
• 1:15:20
  got involved in another one. And I think by the third album
• 1:15:22
  he went OK, I I think this kids serious about what he's trying
• 1:15:27
  to do. And once we bridge that gap with
• 1:15:32
  each other and he realized that I was not messing around, that
• 1:15:36
  it wasn't a hobby for me, that I really did want to get into the
• 1:15:39
  family business. And I was determined to do So.
• 1:15:42
  He sang at such a high level, Vicente, and performed and acted
• 1:15:46
  at such a high level that that became my work ethic.
• 1:15:49
  That became the bar by which I I really measured every bit of
• 1:15:54
  output that I had. And I think once we bridged that
• 1:15:58
  gap and got over that little hump together, we were able to
• 1:16:02
  sit and talk about the challenges of our most recent
• 1:16:05
  gig, musician to musician. And that moment of
• 1:16:10
  transformation, that moment, that clicking was so important
• 1:16:15
  to me because I would come off the road after months of living
• 1:16:17
  on a bus or touring and doing that stuff.
• 1:16:20
  And I could speak to him musician to musician.
• 1:16:23
  And then the wisdom from his end of the business started really
• 1:16:27
  flowing in my direction. And he would say he had all
• 1:16:31
  sorts of great little phrases and things.
• 1:16:34
  And he would say things that were so profound that ring true
• 1:16:37
  to me now, especially as I approach, you know, this point
• 1:16:42
  in my career. All of those work ethic ideas
• 1:16:47
  and all of those principles of performance are more profound
• 1:16:51
  today than they ever have been, especially as you get older and
• 1:16:54
  maybe your hands don't work as well as they used to or you
• 1:16:59
  know, your brain is a little foggy from too many bongs in the
• 1:17:01
  70s or, you know, you're, you can't remember every, you know,
• 1:17:05
  every lyric of every tune. And and so, you know, it really
• 1:17:09
  does to this day. Even though he has been past now
• 1:17:12
  for a couple years, there's been a a tremendous amount of help
• 1:17:17
  and perspective provided by his, his tutelage and his constant
• 1:17:23
  support of what I was doing and and what I continue to do.
• 1:17:27
  And so you know, once, once he realized that I was serious
• 1:17:31
  about this, that's when we kind of got on board with each other.
• 1:17:35
  And we could even talk about specific mechanics of songs and
• 1:17:38
  and performance and all of the slings and arrows that are
• 1:17:42
  involved in trying to perform in a live venue and get your point
• 1:17:47
  across and not be distracted by all of the other the hullabaloo
• 1:17:51
  that's going on around you. And just stay focused on what it
• 1:17:54
  is that you're there to do and and who the gig is really about.
• 1:17:58
  You know, he, he used to say, you know, let the gig come to
• 1:18:04
  you. You know, don't don't run to go
• 1:18:07
  jump in there and try and impress or do any of that.
• 1:18:10
  Let the gig come to you. And it took a while for me to
• 1:18:12
  understand what that meant. And it's counterintuitive.
• 1:18:14
  You're like, what? Wait, A.
• 1:18:15
  Minute. Oh, well, so is watching the
• 1:18:17
  greatest performer I'd ever been around tell me to stay out of
• 1:18:20
  the business. You know, it's it's a you'll
• 1:18:22
  never make the money you need to make.
• 1:18:23
  You're going to be surrounded by a lot of weird people that
• 1:18:26
  you're not going to be able to make sense of, you know, create
• 1:18:29
  creative people are really eccentric and and it's really
• 1:18:31
  confusing and it's hard to stay focused.
• 1:18:33
  And he was right about all of that.
• 1:18:35
  But when I look at the rest of the world and what they deal
• 1:18:39
  with at their jobs, I mean come on, Vicente, they don't call
• 1:18:42
  this playing for nothing. You know, It is playing.
• 1:18:45
  We are playing, you know, and I consider myself incredibly
• 1:18:49
  fortunate to be able to play for a living and putting my guitar
• 1:18:54
  on. Especially now in older years
• 1:18:58
  with so many of my musician friends and family that have
• 1:19:00
  passed on, I I really embraced the profundity of the moment of
• 1:19:06
  being able to put a guitar on and spend the next two or three
• 1:19:10
  hours singing to you. You know, that is a gift that I
• 1:19:13
  can't even begin to describe the value of and.
• 1:19:17
  And so I consider myself very lucky to have not only been able
• 1:19:20
  to do that, but to be able to support my family and put food
• 1:19:24
  on the table with the proceeds from what I'm doing.
• 1:19:27
  That's very rare. And that's what my father was
• 1:19:29
  trying to make me aware of at the at the early stages of my
• 1:19:33
  career. You're going to be hungry a lot
• 1:19:35
  and you're going to be rejected a lot.
• 1:19:39
  You know, rejection is 9/10 of what goes on in the music
• 1:19:42
  business, you know, because there's always somebody younger
• 1:19:46
  and prettier than you in line to do the job that you're trying to
• 1:19:49
  get. So you really have to come to
• 1:19:51
  the table with a skill set and a level of confidence that will
• 1:19:59
  allow you to kind of overcome those things, you know?
• 1:20:02
  So are you? Do do you have any formal
• 1:20:06
  education? Are you all self-taught?
• 1:20:07
  Did you take vocal classes or did you go get a music degree
• 1:20:11
  or? Well, my my dad taught the
• 1:20:14
  neighborhood wannabes and other professional musicians in the
• 1:20:17
  house. I was lucky at the house I grew
• 1:20:20
  up in, that my room, my bedroom, was right next to his studio and
• 1:20:24
  shared a wall with the studio that he did all his work in.
• 1:20:27
  So believe me, Vicente, I heard hundreds of people sucking it.
• 1:20:33
  Like just doing scales horribly for many, many years.
• 1:20:39
  And what you learn from those, from that is not only the value
• 1:20:43
  of watching somebody improve and the joy of improving as you go
• 1:20:50
  and watching that process, but you also learn a lot about what
• 1:20:53
  not to do. Because if somebody was really
• 1:20:56
  having a struggling moment, my father had such a gentle
• 1:20:59
  demeanor about the way he would motivate people.
• 1:21:03
  He was really a brilliant educator in every level, and
• 1:21:06
  listening to him help that person get better is what I
• 1:21:10
  keyed into and that and just generally being around all of
• 1:21:15
  that incredible music all the time, day and night, every day
• 1:21:19
  for so. You are formally educated.
• 1:21:21
  I did go to Northern Illinois University after graduating from
• 1:21:27
  Fenwick High School. I went to Northern Illinois
• 1:21:29
  University and you know, again, it was still during the stage
• 1:21:32
  when my dad was saying stay out of this, you know, get a formal
• 1:21:36
  education and something that you can fall back on.
• 1:21:39
  And you know Vicente. Within three months I was out of
• 1:21:42
  the School of Business and right into the music school and
• 1:21:44
  working on an associate's degree to try and at least get my sight
• 1:21:48
  reading and my basic skills together.
• 1:21:50
  Harmony and music theory. And I was lucky because at that
• 1:21:56
  time there was some amazing people on the staff at the music
• 1:21:59
  school at NIU. And I spent about 3 or 4
• 1:22:04
  semesters in that program achieving the the the
• 1:22:09
  associate's degree of just trying to get my music basics
• 1:22:12
  together. And I passed the audition for
• 1:22:14
  Mr. Myers and lived on a bus for the next three years.
• 1:22:17
  So I never really got a chance to finish what I started because
• 1:22:22
  I went directly into the business and believe you and yet
• 1:22:27
  another go ahead. Well, that in itself was a huge
• 1:22:31
  education. I I really do have to say I need
• 1:22:37
  encourage people to get their basic theory stuff together so
• 1:22:40
  they can understand what harmony is about, understand the basics
• 1:22:44
  of songwriting, understand working in an ensemble program
• 1:22:48
  with others, even some that you might not get along with, you
• 1:22:52
  know? Does that sound familiar,
• 1:22:54
  military folks? You know, you have to learn how
• 1:22:57
  to contribute and be part of the team.
• 1:23:00
  Even though there's a million things that are working against
• 1:23:03
  it, You know, it really does prove who you are and what
• 1:23:06
  you're about. And getting the opportunity from
• 1:23:09
  Todd Donnelly to get on the road with a professional band and get
• 1:23:13
  ink into my book and have dates in my book that I knew I had to
• 1:23:16
  go do, that really was reinforced by the work ethic
• 1:23:20
  that my father brought me up with.
• 1:23:22
  And and so, you know, I have a little bit of background in the
• 1:23:28
  formal parts of it, Vicente, but really not enough to fill the
• 1:23:31
  smallest drawer in the desk. You know, I got most of my
• 1:23:36
  experience from experience and and those were, those were
• 1:23:41
  valuable, valuable things and they continue to be every time
• 1:23:44
  there's adversity at the gig. Now in older age with a little
• 1:23:49
  bit more experience, you come home and you try and learn from
• 1:23:52
  those things instead of raging against them.
• 1:23:55
  You know you try and process them and and realize that
• 1:23:58
  they're there to teach you something you know.
• 1:24:01
  And so I try and keep that attitude of gratitude and
• 1:24:06
  positivity even when things are really difficult to believe me.
• 1:24:10
  I I have lots of high maintenance high expectation
• 1:24:14
  clients that are almost impossible to please and satisfy
• 1:24:18
  and all you can do is do your best and fall back on the
• 1:24:22
  tailwind that you have of experience and try and remember
• 1:24:26
  that you know you don't have to marry the gig you just got to do
• 1:24:29
  it. You know you know it's it's
• 1:24:32
  that's The thing is is let's not forget yeah you know let's not
• 1:24:37
  forget what we're really there to do.
• 1:24:39
  You know, I spent so many years playing in Taverns and pubs and
• 1:24:43
  the corners of bars, next to the dartboard or under the TV with
• 1:24:47
  SportsCenter on and feeling like, what am I doing here?
• 1:24:50
  And, you know, I met that challenge by drinking as much as
• 1:24:53
  I possibly could, and that was not good.
• 1:24:58
  I got sober about four years ago and I had a real challenge of
• 1:25:02
  how am I going to do this? How am I going to go back into
• 1:25:05
  this environment and and you know sober and and what is my
• 1:25:11
  role here. You know what how am I going to
• 1:25:13
  do this And I, and I'm not the first musician to go through
• 1:25:16
  this this this experience and what I had to do is figure it
• 1:25:20
  out a mindset how I was going to do it and stay healthy.
• 1:25:25
  And what I realized is that most people who are in bars are
• 1:25:27
  hurting. You know, they're they're
• 1:25:30
  they're hurt. Whether it's physically or
• 1:25:33
  emotionally, mentally, whatever. They're they're trying to
• 1:25:36
  process something that's that's hurting them.
• 1:25:39
  And music, as you know, is medicine.
• 1:25:43
  And as soon as I embraced the idea that I was showing up with
• 1:25:46
  my doctor bag in the form of my guitar case, and I was
• 1:25:49
  administering medicine in the form of my music or Van
• 1:25:52
  Morrison's music or The Beatles or Led Zeppelin or whoever I
• 1:25:56
  was, you know, George Jones or whoever I was singing, I started
• 1:26:00
  to realize that my job there is to administer medicine to the
• 1:26:03
  sick. And as soon as I embraced that
• 1:26:07
  part of my role in that daily experience of opera ski, when
• 1:26:10
  people are drunk at 4:00 in the afternoon, like they're drunk at
• 1:26:14
  midnight, you realize that you're there to help them
• 1:26:18
  through whatever it is they're doing, whether it's revelry
• 1:26:20
  because they're on vacation and they're enjoying themselves or
• 1:26:23
  whether they're there trying to nurse a sick heart.
• 1:26:26
  So as soon as I figured out a way to process that experience,
• 1:26:30
  I got better at what I was doing.
• 1:26:33
  You know, my performances got more sincere.
• 1:26:36
  My reaction to adversity at the gig was not rage meeting rage,
• 1:26:40
  not drunkenness meeting drunkenness.
• 1:26:42
  Because, you know, there's only so many times you can be spat
• 1:26:45
  at, you know, But you know, play, you know, Lynyrd Skynyrd.
• 1:26:49
  And then you're covered with their spit and you're going,
• 1:26:51
  well, can I just wipe off here before we move forward?
• 1:26:55
  And and I would, I would meet those moments with just the same
• 1:26:59
  kind of drunken rage that they would administer them to me.
• 1:27:02
  And and that wasn't the answer that didn't.
• 1:27:05
  That didn't make anything better.
• 1:27:07
  And now that I can look at it from a healthier perspective,
• 1:27:10
  I'm able to deal with moments like that with a little bit more
• 1:27:14
  graciousness, you know, a little more understanding and a little
• 1:27:16
  more empathy, which is what is required.
• 1:27:21
  Yeah. You know, you know, I asked for
• 1:27:24
  the news, not the weather, you know, that kind of thing.
• 1:27:27
  But, you know, I I've been able to, I've been able to figure out
• 1:27:32
  a way to kind of process it better and come to peace and
• 1:27:35
  come to terms with what it's going to be.
• 1:27:37
  And the other thing it did, Vicente, was motivate me to aim
• 1:27:41
  higher. You know, get out of the bars,
• 1:27:43
  get out of that environment and only engage in that environment
• 1:27:49
  with people on the staff that I wanted to work with in the type
• 1:27:52
  of place that I wanted to work. You know, if I was going to go
• 1:27:56
  out there and have people kind of yelling song titles at me, it
• 1:28:00
  better be for really good money in a really great venue with a
• 1:28:03
  really great staff. And so now I'm a lot more choosy
• 1:28:07
  about the places I do that kind of thing.
• 1:28:10
  And I'm happy to say that my schedule is so busy in in in
• 1:28:14
  more conducive environments than that now.
• 1:28:17
  And it took me to sober up, realign what my ideas were,
• 1:28:21
  realign what my goals were, to get more into a controlled
• 1:28:28
  atmosphere for regular performances that pay better,
• 1:28:33
  that are more rewarding artistically for a better
• 1:28:36
  clientele or or or more appreciative clientele.
• 1:28:39
  I should say. You know, I cannot poo poo my
• 1:28:44
  bread and butter of all those years playing in bars because it
• 1:28:46
  supported me and it gave me the skill set and the set of
• 1:28:50
  experiences that I have now that helped me get through when times
• 1:28:54
  are tough at the gig. So I cannot push it aside and
• 1:28:58
  disavow it because it was such a central part of my experience.
• 1:29:04
  But I realized and. It and it played a vital.
• 1:29:07
  Yeah, it it in fact. You know it played a vital.
• 1:29:09
  Role and you're absolutely. You're able to do you do now
• 1:29:13
  without that. You know what?
• 1:29:14
  I mean, absolutely. You're so right.
• 1:29:17
  And and so now I use it as part of that experience tailwind that
• 1:29:22
  I'm telling you about. You know that, you know, I
• 1:29:25
  played for a bunch of clients the other day at the head of a
• 1:29:28
  table of a bunch of eight-year old women.
• 1:29:30
  And I sat at the head of the table and sang to them and the
• 1:29:35
  the food and beverage director at the end of the gig said, wow,
• 1:29:38
  that was an amazing job. It must be very difficult.
• 1:29:41
  Wasn't that difficult being like right up on them and and playing
• 1:29:44
  right to them? And I said no, man, you know, a
• 1:29:46
  difficult gig is a funeral. You know, try singing a funeral
• 1:29:50
  for somebody that you loved, you know, or that somebody who has
• 1:29:54
  died tragically. That's a tough gig.
• 1:29:58
  You know, a gig where it's operate, skiing, somebody'd
• 1:30:01
  yelling sweet home Alabama into your face.
• 1:30:03
  That's not tough. That's just another kind of
• 1:30:05
  extension of why my dad told me to stay out of the business.
• 1:30:09
  It's really just another, you know, moment of adversity that
• 1:30:14
  you had that your character has to overcome and you've got to,
• 1:30:16
  you know, fall back on who you are and find out who you are in
• 1:30:20
  those moments. You know, you and I talked about
• 1:30:22
  it being kind of the path to God moment.
• 1:30:24
  It shouldn't be this big adversity.
• 1:30:27
  Why me? Why is this happening to me?
• 1:30:29
  I'm such the victim. It should be more like, boy,
• 1:30:32
  this is sure helping you figure out what, what you're made of,
• 1:30:34
  isn't it? And you know, I've tried to key
• 1:30:38
  into that because a tough gig is not playing for a bunch of
• 1:30:41
  beautiful old 80 year old women who just want to hear some Eagle
• 1:30:44
  songs. The tough gig is when you're
• 1:30:47
  standing next to a casket with a family who is absolutely
• 1:30:51
  overcome with grief and and and somehow easing the pain of that
• 1:30:57
  experience. That's that's a tough gig, you
• 1:31:01
  know. So, you know, I think with
• 1:31:05
  sobriety comes from perspective. Waking up to yourself, forgiving
• 1:31:10
  yourself, moving on, recognizing that you're not the same person
• 1:31:15
  you were As long as you have been able to recognize the
• 1:31:20
  transformation, you know that water is not coming back under
• 1:31:24
  that bridge, man. It's gone.
• 1:31:26
  It's gone. And you're not the same person
• 1:31:28
  standing at the edge of the river either, you know?
• 1:31:31
  So as long as you can, you know, healthfully recognize that
• 1:31:37
  moment and what that moment has to offer, and you can gain
• 1:31:40
  enough clarity to have that moment, then you can take that
• 1:31:43
  to your next gig. That might not be the smoothest
• 1:31:45
  gig ever in the greatest venue under the greatest circumstances
• 1:31:48
  ever. You know there are no perfect
• 1:31:51
  gigs, Vicente. There's no such thing.
• 1:31:54
  You're always going to clam a couple of notes, forget a couple
• 1:31:56
  of words but instead of you know, instead of demanding
• 1:32:02
  perfection from all these moments with with, those moments
• 1:32:06
  of imperfection are are human moments.
• 1:32:08
  Moments of humanity. And if you get hip to yourself
• 1:32:12
  about not taking it too seriously and learning from
• 1:32:15
  them, they can be amazing. They can be amazing and and very
• 1:32:19
  educational. And that's why, again, it comes
• 1:32:21
  back to encouraging people who have something to say and
• 1:32:26
  haven't been able to figure out a way to express it, to get
• 1:32:29
  involved in your program in Denver with the singers and
• 1:32:32
  songwriters, the soldiers and songs, and get involved with
• 1:32:35
  music therapy programs that are going on all over their state
• 1:32:39
  for veterans and people who weren't involved in the
• 1:32:41
  military. The thing is, get involved with
• 1:32:44
  a medium that allows you to express how you feel.
• 1:32:48
  I don't care if it's picking up a paintbrush, you know, writing
• 1:32:52
  a song, writing poetry, writing lyrics, you know, getting
• 1:32:55
  involved with helping kids learn how to play a sport, whatever it
• 1:32:59
  is, you got to take that first step.
• 1:33:02
  It may seem like a very difficult step to take in, a
• 1:33:05
  very large step, but once you do that, you've opened the door to
• 1:33:09
  a world of transformation that allows you to become a better
• 1:33:12
  person. And that's what we're all trying
• 1:33:13
  to do. Oh my God, dude, wow.
• 1:33:18
  This has been so profound. And and I appreciate your
• 1:33:21
  candor, 'cause you know, one of the things, you know, being a a
• 1:33:24
  narcissistic perfectionist, which is a deadly combination.
• 1:33:29
  I I'm, I'm always beating myself up.
• 1:33:31
  You know, it's got to be perfect.
• 1:33:32
  It's got to be. And it's just so, you know, from
• 1:33:35
  a guy with your vast experience. It's so reassuring and and and
• 1:33:42
  helpful to hear, hey dude, you're going to flub this.
• 1:33:45
  You're going to flub. It's OK.
• 1:33:46
  That's part of the growing process.
• 1:33:48
  And just embrace it and love it and move on and and don't don't
• 1:33:52
  obsess it. Absolutely.
• 1:33:54
  I I just think those human moments are of so much value.
• 1:33:58
  And even though on the onset they may feel a little
• 1:34:01
  uncomfortable or like you said earlier, a little
• 1:34:03
  counterintuitive, you know, honestly, those are the moments
• 1:34:07
  that make us who we are. And we're all trying to be the
• 1:34:11
  best version of who we can be or we're trying to get on the road
• 1:34:16
  to healing and forgiveness. And these are the things that
• 1:34:20
  are part of, like you just said, part of that process.
• 1:34:23
  You know, if you're looking for perfection, stay out of music,
• 1:34:27
  you know? You know, If you're looking to
• 1:34:30
  not be rejected, stay out of the creative medium because you
• 1:34:34
  know, expecting no rejection in music is like, you know,
• 1:34:39
  expecting to get into boxing without getting punched in the
• 1:34:42
  face. You know, So you know these
• 1:34:45
  these are, you know, it's, it's real, you know, but if you
• 1:34:49
  embrace those human moments. That wasn't.
• 1:34:52
  In the. Posture.
• 1:34:53
  Yeah, no one said I was going to get punched in the face.
• 1:34:56
  So, you know, really I again, I I just my overall feeling about
• 1:35:01
  this whole thing with you and and with Mac Bailey and music
• 1:35:04
  therapy in general, is to encourage people who have
• 1:35:07
  something inside that they need to get out to get involved with
• 1:35:10
  these programs. And you will not be
• 1:35:13
  disappointed. You will not be disappointed
• 1:35:16
  even if the increment is this much, even if it's just
• 1:35:19
  something that is one small baby step forward.
• 1:35:22
  That's huge. That is huge.
• 1:35:25
  So take those gigs, take those challenges.
• 1:35:30
  You know it. You're absolutely right.
• 1:35:31
  I mean, you know, to hear that your mother was moved to tears
• 1:35:35
  off of something that we had. No, they'd started out out of
• 1:35:37
  nothing. You know, we we had no clear
• 1:35:40
  idea of where we were going when we got paired up together.
• 1:35:43
  And the end result was moving your mother to a level of
• 1:35:47
  emotion that that is just so utterly profound.
• 1:35:51
  That goes to show you right there.
• 1:35:53
  If that's not proof positive of how impactful getting involved
• 1:35:57
  in these kind of programs is, I I just don't know what you're
• 1:35:59
  looking for. You know, you know this has been
• 1:36:04
  great. I'm looking forward to
• 1:36:05
  continuing it. I'm totally excited about the
• 1:36:08
  idea of coming down to Denver and getting into the studio and
• 1:36:10
  playing. I really would like you to
• 1:36:13
  continue with your songwriting journey, you know and hopefully
• 1:36:17
  we can find time to collaborate again.
• 1:36:20
  And I'm certainly looking forward to getting a call from
• 1:36:23
  Mac Bailey to be involved in the next round of of music therapy
• 1:36:29
  for this summer. And you know, as I told Mac that
• 1:36:32
  the last time we sang at Snowmass Chapel together, I I
• 1:36:35
  just don't want to know what life is like without this, this
• 1:36:39
  element in it, which is helping someone express how they're
• 1:36:43
  feeling so that they can feel better about it, you know?
• 1:36:49
  Yeah, man. No.
• 1:36:50
  No regrets. No regrets.
• 1:36:52
  So you know, it's that time of the show, Daniel.
• 1:36:55
  It's been awesome. Time to shine.
• 1:36:58
  It's a time to shine. So this is your opportunity to
• 1:37:00
  talk about anything we didn't cover or give, you know?
• 1:37:03
  Something that does is, you know, burning on your lips.
• 1:37:06
  You just want fun to get out or, you know, just anything that you
• 1:37:11
  want to share. So it's your time to shine,
• 1:37:13
  baby. It's the time to shine.
• 1:37:20
  Well, again, I think, I think the overall message here is, is
• 1:37:25
  that the expressive mediums in art are there to help you there,
• 1:37:31
  help you. They're there to help you share.
• 1:37:33
  They're there to help you heal. They're there to help you
• 1:37:36
  forgive yourself from anything you're going through.
• 1:37:39
  And you are really the key to that first step.
• 1:37:44
  And if you're lucky and the circumstances are right, you'll
• 1:37:49
  be surrounded by people who share your concerns and share
• 1:37:54
  your need to express yourself. If you don't find these areas of
• 1:37:59
  support close enough to you, then move yourself closer to
• 1:38:04
  them. Do what you have to do to get
• 1:38:07
  around people that you can collaborate with and work with
• 1:38:11
  to realize your vision and get yourself expressed the way you
• 1:38:15
  need to. If that means going to church,
• 1:38:18
  go for it. If that means going to a A, go
• 1:38:21
  for it. If that means just getting
• 1:38:23
  involved in community, stuff that gets you around other
• 1:38:25
  people, community activities, do it sometimes.
• 1:38:30
  You know, the overall thing in this is that nobody's going to
• 1:38:32
  lift the hand for you. You do have to take a little bit
• 1:38:35
  of personal motivation and responsibility for improving
• 1:38:39
  your situation. If you can do that, take that
• 1:38:42
  small step towards it. If it's not automatically coming
• 1:38:45
  to you and you're not as lucky as you and I were, you know, to
• 1:38:49
  be paired up, go find somebody to get paired up with.
• 1:38:52
  A lot of those things are closer to you than you think.
• 1:38:56
  They're there in your community, They're there in your family,
• 1:38:59
  you know. And if you're hurting, this is
• 1:39:02
  the path to getting better. Go towards places that are
• 1:39:06
  healthy. Go towards activities that are
• 1:39:08
  healthy for you and to people that are going to help you in
• 1:39:12
  spreading your message and healing yourself, because that's
• 1:39:15
  what this is all about. You know there's plenty of
• 1:39:18
  musicians out there that are in the business because they like
• 1:39:20
  the sound of their own voices. You know and that's it.
• 1:39:23
  And you can tell those people from the others, from the more
• 1:39:27
  sincere performers immediately. I think with a lot of people who
• 1:39:31
  are non musicians, I think the bullshit flag goes up very
• 1:39:34
  quickly when they feel that something is not sincere.
• 1:39:37
  And I think immediately they react positively to people who
• 1:39:41
  are really coming from a place that's real and they recognize
• 1:39:46
  that whether they realize it or not, it's on a visceral level.
• 1:39:49
  Something in their gut tells them this person means what
• 1:39:52
  they're singing. You know?
• 1:39:55
  And believe me, there's enough people in entertainment that are
• 1:39:58
  there specifically to put put themselves forward.
• 1:40:02
  Really what this is about is self discovery.
• 1:40:05
  Self healing, transformation and and helping others to
• 1:40:09
  understand, hey, it's out there, you can do this sometimes you
• 1:40:13
  got to take a little more effort and not everything's going to be
• 1:40:16
  handed to you. You know you are going to have
• 1:40:18
  to work at it. But the rewards, as you know
• 1:40:21
  Vicente, I mean the rewards are so valuable and the non monetary
• 1:40:25
  rewards end up being some of the most valuable things that you
• 1:40:29
  get out of the experience. And and Damien, truly that
• 1:40:34
  that's that's life. I mean anything that you want to
• 1:40:37
  that's worthwhile, that's, that's that's, that's, you know,
• 1:40:41
  going to be uplifting for you or for others, it takes effort.
• 1:40:46
  You know, if you want to be good at something, you have to put in
• 1:40:49
  the time. You know, you want to be a good
• 1:40:51
  granddad, you want to be a good husband, you want to be a good
• 1:40:54
  golfer, You got to put in the time.
• 1:40:56
  It's not. It's not.
• 1:40:56
  There's no magic pill. And and you're exactly right.
• 1:41:00
  And I think when you get into the sports analogies, which is a
• 1:41:02
  tricky place to be, we all know that if we go golfing with a
• 1:41:08
  professional golfer, we're going to play better.
• 1:41:11
  If we sit down with a professional musician to play
• 1:41:14
  music, we're going to play better.
• 1:41:16
  We're going to learn something from them.
• 1:41:18
  So get around the people that you respect and that whose work
• 1:41:23
  moves you Get around them and key into what that thing is that
• 1:41:28
  motivates you. Because we all know that if we
• 1:41:31
  surround ourselves with good people, we're going to get
• 1:41:34
  better at whatever we're trying to do, whether it's just us that
• 1:41:37
  we're trying to be better at us or better at golf, skiing,
• 1:41:41
  guitar playing, you know, house painting, whatever it is you get
• 1:41:45
  around an expert or somebody who's playing at a higher level,
• 1:41:48
  you're going to automatically perform better.
• 1:41:52
  You're automatically going to be a better version of yourself
• 1:41:55
  just from taking the time to motivate yourself to be around
• 1:41:59
  those types of people. So the big thing is that success
• 1:42:03
  comes to a lot of people in the creative medium who are smart
• 1:42:06
  enough to surround themselves with smart, innovative people
• 1:42:10
  who are willing to take risks and who are in in the game
• 1:42:15
  because of the art, because of the process of making art, not
• 1:42:18
  because I love the sound of my voice or I think my voice is
• 1:42:22
  here and yours is here or my, you know, that's that's so true.
• 1:42:26
  So get around people who represent the best version of
• 1:42:30
  what you're trying to do and key into what it's what it is about
• 1:42:34
  them that's got you motivated. And stick with it because it's a
• 1:42:39
  lot of work, you know? It takes a lot to do it.
• 1:42:43
  So, you know, believe in yourself.
• 1:42:47
  Get involved in these programs that are a step away from you.
• 1:42:50
  Sometimes they're right under your nose and you don't know it.
• 1:42:53
  Get involved in these things and express yourself.
• 1:42:56
  You're going to feel better even if you think the song or the the
• 1:43:00
  picture of the painting, the project, whatever.
• 1:43:03
  Even if you perceive it to be falling perpetually on its ass,
• 1:43:07
  you are still moving forward by having gone through the process.
• 1:43:11
  And the more you do it, the better you get.
• 1:43:14
  I know it doesn't feel like that on the onset, but believe me, if
• 1:43:17
  you continue to stay focused and continue to stay motivated, you
• 1:43:21
  will improve and you will wake up sometime after the process is
• 1:43:25
  over and go. I am better from that.
• 1:43:31
  Yes, so true. Have I shine.
• 1:43:33
  It's been such a pleasure. You do definitely shine and we
• 1:43:38
  appreciate your time and your insight and your knowledge and
• 1:43:41
  experiences. And I so look forward to future
• 1:43:44
  collaborations and you coming into the studio.
• 1:43:47
  We thank you for your time this morning.
• 1:43:50
  And. We wish you the best of of day
• 1:43:53
  and the best before and we will be in touch.
• 1:43:55
  Thank you so much. Thank you both.
• 1:43:58
  Really appreciate. All right, real quick.
• 1:44:04
  We have a special guest there are they're they're they're
• 1:44:08
  coming up. We just partnered with them.
• 1:44:10
  It is the North Northeastern Sports Network, and I'm sure I
• 1:44:17
  spelled that wrong or pronounced that wrong, 'cause it's a it's a
• 1:44:22
  brilliant day for me. Ladies and gentlemen, I want to
• 1:44:24
  bring Mac on. You can go ahead and hit the
• 1:44:28
  interview of the week or you know, there we go, Meg.
• 1:44:30
  Hey, thanks brother, for joining us.
• 1:44:33
  Tell us a little bit about what you got going on.
• 1:44:36
  Sorry we couldn't take a break and come over there.
• 1:44:39
  We we're, we're, we're, we're, you know, you're you're a little
• 1:44:43
  bit more famous than we are. All right.
• 1:44:46
  Hey, that's NE Streaming Sports Network.
• 1:44:49
  That's what we're on. And it's a network of all a
• 1:44:52
  bunch of sports podcasts together, almost 60 of them.
• 1:44:55
  And we have almost 24 hours a day, well, at least 12 hours a
• 1:45:00
  day sport shows over there, seven days a week.
• 1:45:04
  So all you got to do is download the free Roku app.
• 1:45:08
  It's on Roku TV and and channel search for Northeast streaming
• 1:45:12
  parts. I appreciate that.
• 1:45:16
  How are you doing bud? I I've been checking out your
• 1:45:19
  content you know, and with you guys and HC Sports, I I I I
• 1:45:24
  think I could be on the guys show very soon.
• 1:45:27
  Yes, yes, In fact we got you. I think you're coming in next
• 1:45:31
  week with us. I think a a Tuesday or a Monday
• 1:45:34
  or something like that. Well, I'll look at the, I'll
• 1:45:35
  look at the schedule. But yeah, we have great shows
• 1:45:38
  over there guys, if you want to check it out.
• 1:45:40
  We got one of the best boxing shows on the Internet called
• 1:45:43
  Glove Fist. They have a bunch of great
• 1:45:46
  guests. They really know they're boxing
• 1:45:48
  over there. They're the Hall of Fame boxing
• 1:45:50
  writer and and an award-winning rider.
• 1:45:53
  We have on our start spreading the news Yankee show which is is
• 1:45:57
  on every Monday night at 9:00 PM.
• 1:46:00
  And then we also have a really great show called JMB Talking
• 1:46:05
  Shop with two former NFL football players, one being a
• 1:46:08
  two time Super Bowl champion Jim Jeffcoat and the other one a
• 1:46:12
  former wide receiver Byron Williams.
• 1:46:15
  So they know there's stuff. It's a really fun show.
• 1:46:18
  Well it Caveman and Mercury, they have a show on Wednesday as
• 1:46:23
  well and they they they know their stuff too.
• 1:46:26
  So we'll we'll we'll have to do a a show crossover for sure.
• 1:46:32
  Yeah, definitely. I'll do something like that.
• 1:46:35
  All right. Listen, I love working with you
• 1:46:36
  guys, Of course. I'm a former, former vet, six
• 1:46:39
  years in the Air Force from 84 to 90.
• 1:46:43
  Love getting, getting given veterans of voice.
• 1:46:47
  It took us a while to get together Joe, but we finally did
• 1:46:49
  it and I'm glad we did. Joe's been helping us out on
• 1:46:52
  some on some videos and and and some you know some of the
• 1:46:57
  overlays and that's great for us and hopefully we're adding some
• 1:47:02
  good content over there. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:47:06
  And Mac, this is V ^2. Nice to meet you.
• 1:47:09
  I served the same time I was in the Navy, 84 to 90.
• 1:47:13
  Right. Yeah, I was, I was there.
• 1:47:16
  I was, I was in para rescue. I was in the when they ousted
• 1:47:20
  Noriega there at Panama, the Contra Sandinista in war.
• 1:47:25
  I was in Korea for six months. So I I made it around the world.
• 1:47:28
  It was very interesting. And that's one thing that they
• 1:47:30
  do get for you. In fact, you know the service is
• 1:47:34
  a place to get an education, a place to get experience for a
• 1:47:37
  job, a place to go around the world.
• 1:47:39
  A little tough in the beginning, but after you get through that
• 1:47:41
  and you get your home base or or wherever you're going, it gets a
• 1:47:44
  lot easier. Yeah, I was a similar I was a
• 1:47:51
  combat diver on a sub. So yeah, I did some some crazy
• 1:47:55
  stuff too. So we'll definitely have to swap
• 1:47:57
  stories. Oh, definitely, definitely.
• 1:47:59
  We'll do that. So yeah, I I I haven't got a
• 1:48:02
  shot really to go over and check you guys out that much because
• 1:48:06
  I'm very busy promoting and running the Roku Channel and
• 1:48:10
  hosting and producing shows. So it's really busy.
• 1:48:13
  But I definitely will get over there.
• 1:48:14
  I I watched the of course the wrestling show that's come on
• 1:48:17
  over turnbuckles and stogies. I've had a chance to watch that,
• 1:48:22
  which is very entertaining. Yeah.
• 1:48:28
  Well, Mag, thank you so much for being on with us.
• 1:48:32
  For everybody else, it is that time, and it is tribute to the
• 1:48:35
  troops all. Right, sounds great.
• 1:48:40
  Sir, I don't. I don't know how to tell this
• 1:48:43
  story. Well, you got to joke.
• 1:48:47
  You telling her to people what these men do here?
• 1:48:50
  You tell them how much troopers died.
• 1:49:10
  Friends and family, thank you for tuning in today as MBR pays
• 1:49:14
  tribute to Special Forces Sergeant First Class Joshua Zack
• 1:49:18
  Bill, 32, of Carrollton, VA, who died on January 22nd, 2019 after
• 1:49:25
  sustaining injuries from small arms fire in Afghanistan.
• 1:49:30
  Bill was assigned to Third Special Forces Group out of Fort
• 1:49:34
  Bragg, NC. This was his fourth overseas
• 1:49:38
  tour and 3rd tour in Afghanistan.
• 1:49:40
  He enlisted in 2011 and had more than seven years of service in
• 1:49:45
  the Army. He is survived by his wife and
• 1:49:47
  two children. On behalf of everyone here in
• 1:49:50
  NBR, we want to say thank you Sergeant First Class Joshua Zack
• 1:49:54
  Bill, for your service and dedication to our country.
• 1:49:57
  Our thoughts and prayers are with your friends and family.
• 1:54:31
  Welcome back ladies and gentlemen, to the Revel
• 1:54:33
  Experience. He's been one of those days.
• 1:54:36
  It's another amazing interview, couple of interviews, just a lot
• 1:54:41
  of information, very informative.
• 1:54:44
  And I, you know, I got my ace crew here today, so we're
• 1:54:48
  rolling. We are on it today.
• 1:54:51
  You you guys are. I'm really impressed with you
• 1:54:55
  and Mercury. You guys are doing amazing, you
• 1:55:00
  know? Well, we had a great teacher.
• 1:55:02
  It's. Like Amy and let's say going to
• 1:55:05
  be around people that you respect, they'll teach.
• 1:55:09
  You wow, you guys are. You do it, you.
• 1:55:11
  Guys are laying on the bull crap, let me tell you.
• 1:55:14
  Oh, no, we're we're talking about Dave Armstrong.
• 1:55:16
  Oh, OK. All right.
• 1:55:18
  Yeah, there you go. As.
• 1:55:20
  I said you must be doing something.
• 1:55:21
  I keep coming. Back dude, it's Dunkin' Donuts,
• 1:55:25
  man. If I had, if I had like, you
• 1:55:28
  know King Super or or Walmart, Yeah, Donuts, yeah, they want.
• 1:55:33
  They want, yeah. I mean, hell, they were.
• 1:55:36
  They were here the other day because they was waiting for
• 1:55:39
  Jersey Mike. Jersey Mike's, yeah.
• 1:55:41
  Yeah, come on. We still haven't gone there on
• 1:55:42
  Jersey Mike's age train. What's going on?
• 1:55:45
  So before we go into like the final thoughts and stuff, you
• 1:55:49
  know, what do you guys got going on for a preview for your show
• 1:55:54
  for Wednesday? Yeah.
• 1:55:55
  Next week, well. This week's.
• 1:55:57
  Going on lots of visual round. Yeah, well, you know us.
• 1:56:01
  We'll be there. We'll be watching the Divisional
• 1:56:03
  Round, so we'll give you a kind of recap of the games, give us,
• 1:56:08
  give you our our championship weekend predictions, Super Bowl
• 1:56:12
  predictions. Yeah, you know within a minute
• 1:56:15
  can you kind of explain to those that aren't familiar with NFL
• 1:56:19
  like you know the this weekend is the division and then.
• 1:56:24
  Yeah, next week. You OK, man?
• 1:56:25
  You predicted the the Browns and Stroud really stuck it to them.
• 1:56:30
  Boy, their defense is picked apart.
• 1:56:32
  Joe Black, Man, I couldn't believe.
• 1:56:35
  I couldn't believe that game. And then and then, of course,
• 1:56:39
  you know, we got the Dallas Cowboys.
• 1:56:41
  Yeah. See, I had, I had Dallas Cowboys
• 1:56:43
  going all the way to the Super Bowl this year.
• 1:56:46
  My thought on it was like, if they don't make it that far,
• 1:56:49
  then when So, so real quick, what do you think?
• 1:56:52
  Why can't they get anywhere in the playoffs?
• 1:56:54
  What I I honestly think it's like same kind of curse the the
• 1:56:59
  the Broncos have. Yeah, it's.
• 1:57:03
  Ever since Jimmie Johnson was let go, the.
• 1:57:06
  Lack of leadership in Dallas. Like once it started going
• 1:57:09
  downhill, the hill almost got steeper.
• 1:57:12
  Well, it's micromanage, you know, and it's kind of like the
• 1:57:14
  same thing that happened with the Broncos, with Elway, Elway
• 1:57:17
  kind of micromanage. And you saw the, you know, you
• 1:57:20
  saw the travesty that happened after that.
• 1:57:23
  You know, there's always turning points.
• 1:57:25
  And with the Dallas Cowboys, I think it was Jimmie Johnson.
• 1:57:28
  So because ever since that switch, they they just have not
• 1:57:32
  been the same at all. And with Denver being the way it
• 1:57:36
  is, you know, we're we're we're surviving.
• 1:57:40
  We're not rebuilding. So you think McCarthy's gone?
• 1:57:43
  No, he's he's going to stay they they confirmed.
• 1:57:46
  He's he's staying there in Dallas.
• 1:57:48
  I thought for sure. Oh, after this I was like, you
• 1:57:52
  have to fire him. I mean, this is embarrassed like
• 1:57:55
  the third straight embarrassing loss like the first two was.
• 1:58:00
  They just mismanaged the end of a game of a close game.
• 1:58:05
  Both times it was against the 49ers where they just mismanaged
• 1:58:09
  the clock to all heck. But this, this one I mean you
• 1:58:12
  just got. Oh, Dang.
• 1:58:14
  Like you had a a first year starting quarterback.
• 1:58:18
  He just mopped the floor with your team.
• 1:58:20
  Yeah, one of the best defenses and offenses it has to be.
• 1:58:24
  A good. Defense.
• 1:58:25
  I mean top ten offense and defense and you guys are
• 1:58:30
  previously undefeated at home with like one of the largest
• 1:58:33
  margins of victory and just all fell apart.
• 1:58:37
  One of my friends is a is a Raiders fan.
• 1:58:40
  His cousin is like die hard for the Cowboys.
• 1:58:43
  So just like we're all just sitting in the Xbox party during
• 1:58:47
  that game and it was, it was bad, it was tragic.
• 1:58:51
  Well, you guys were running out of time.
• 1:58:54
  It is that time for the final thoughts. 554433221.
• 1:59:05
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• 1:59:07
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• 1:59:27
  Oh caveman, We'll start with you.
• 1:59:30
  Definitely just kind of learn today.
• 1:59:32
  The music industry is pretty similar to just about anything
• 1:59:36
  that involves being creative. Just got to keep motivation up,
• 1:59:40
  keep working, keep meeting new connections and eventually like
• 1:59:45
  it'll just take time. Yeah, Matt Rife has been doing
• 1:59:49
  this shift for 10 years and he said that he's just now
• 1:59:53
  starting. Yeah, he was on while and out a
• 1:59:56
  while before people knew him. He was on.
• 1:59:58
  A whole bunch of different shows.
• 2:00:00
  It's like small name guy before he actually started to blow up
• 2:00:03
  like that. And it may not have worked out
• 2:00:06
  for him considering his most recent publicity stuff.
• 2:00:10
  Well. That's, that's what you call a
• 2:00:13
  spotlight fad? Yeah, you know, that's the
• 2:00:16
  spotlight fad. What did you learn to be?
• 2:00:18
  I just learned when the most profound thing I learned is
• 2:00:22
  surround yourself by the by the people that you respect and that
• 2:00:26
  people that you want to inspire to be or aspire to be.
• 2:00:30
  And that's key for me, man. You, you, you know, I I tell my
• 2:00:34
  son this all the time, dude, you can't.
• 2:00:36
  If you want to do this and this in life and you know, get clean
• 2:00:40
  and sober, but you're still hanging around those loser drug
• 2:00:42
  addicts and Elkies, it's not going to work.
• 2:00:44
  They're not going to. They don't care about you and
• 2:00:46
  they're not going to help you. So how about you, Mercury?
• 2:00:50
  I learned that the New York Post will just about write about
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  anything. I went, I went back to their
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  original tweet a little bit later and I saw they got they
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  got community noted and they're like, this is just one
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  university which is contradicted by a lot of federal health
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  agencies and they're like, this is not true.
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  So maybe if you like reading the New York Post, it might be time
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  to to switch up. Yeah.
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  Right. Well, you know, I just learned a
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  combination of things. I learned that that Mercury and
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  the caveman, I mean, I think they might be ready, they might
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  be ready to go to the next step. What is that next step?
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  I don't know. TuneIn next week and you'll find
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