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Peace Talks in the Middle East | Joe Hawkins | The Week in Bible Prophecy · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers Podcast. Welcome
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Speaker 1: everybody to the podcast this week. I'm Monogan is Awesomem
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Speaker 1: sitting here with Joe Hawkins.
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Speaker 2: Welcome Joe, Thank you, sir.
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Speaker 1: And Joe is from Prophecy Recon and he's going to
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Speaker 1: to just get into the news right here at the front.
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Speaker 1: But before we do, again, tell people where they can
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate that, Mondo. So yeah, I mean prophecyrecon
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Speaker 3: guess it's a better way to explain it. I take
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Speaker 3: current events that's going on around the world the night before,
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Speaker 3: I'm I'm up late at night research and seeing what
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Speaker 3: something that's related to Bible prophecy and gives the reader
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Speaker 3: a quick understanding of what that news article means and
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Speaker 3: why it's relevant for today and why I'm sharing this
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Speaker 3: news article. So you can find all of that at
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Speaker 3: prophecy recond dot com. And I crossed difference of those
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Speaker 3: over there on on Telegram as well. And you've you've
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Speaker 3: certainly built up a Telegram channel by putting me in
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Speaker 3: the same voices. Uh, you know, a miersar Fadi, which
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Speaker 3: I certainly don't post as much as a mirror, but
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Speaker 3: I would encourage you. If you don't want to get
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Speaker 3: notifications at four in the morning, you probably want to
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Speaker 3: mute your notifications on telegram.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's for sure.
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Speaker 1: And that's again what I do is I go to
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Speaker 1: a mirror because he talks a lot about what's going
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Speaker 1: on in Israel, and he got a lot of things.
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Speaker 1: And then I scrolled down and yours is there. I
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Speaker 1: go to yours, like, okay, what news we have, and
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Speaker 1: then like I think I'm on Chan Markel's, I scroll
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Speaker 1: through hers and a couple others. But we so so
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Speaker 1: today right now we are. We witnessed this morning the
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Speaker 1: release of the twenty living hostages from Gaza, and of
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Speaker 1: course Trump was there. He flew into Israel too much fanfare.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt he is very popular in Israel.
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Speaker 1: As much that we're on the on the one of
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Speaker 1: the beaches of Televis.
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Speaker 2: They had a.
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Speaker 1: Big welcoming thing for him that he could see as
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Speaker 1: he flew into a Bengarian airport.
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Speaker 2: So he came.
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Speaker 1: He spoke at the Knesset and gave a speech there
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Speaker 1: standing ovation. Again, what let's just talk about.
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Speaker 2: This for a moment.
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Speaker 1: That the history of this two years ago, as we know,
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Speaker 1: were we were in Norman and we heard about the
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Speaker 1: massacre and the attack. Of course, everything that's happened in
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Speaker 1: the last two years, a lot of riots worldwide in
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Speaker 1: America on campuses, a lot of you know, false information
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Speaker 1: about genocide and Gaza and everything else. Again not saying
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Speaker 1: that Israel does everything perfectly, but it's been very clear
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Speaker 1: there's no genocide there. We see massive amounts of food
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Speaker 1: and aid coming in getting stolen by Hamas. In fact,
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Speaker 1: Hamas has been shown to either abuse or harm or
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Speaker 1: assault or even killed their own people because they would
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Speaker 1: they would take this food that went in there in
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Speaker 1: the they would turn around and sell it and other things.
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Speaker 1: And so Hamas is just an evil, wicked organization that
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Speaker 1: doesn't really love its people. Again, it uses him as shields,
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Speaker 1: et cetera. So we could go all day that Hamas
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Speaker 1: doesn't belong there and they're not good for the Palestines.
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Speaker 2: But we've seen all this and now here we are.
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Speaker 2: Trump came in.
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Speaker 1: Nothing everything was stalled really during the Biden administration. Trump
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Speaker 1: comes in, he's eager to use his authority in his personality,
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Speaker 1: however you want to take that comes in. But he
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Speaker 1: gets the job done. He gets the job done. And
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Speaker 1: so just in that, just just talk about that for
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Speaker 1: a moment. Interesting here in America you have a lot
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Speaker 1: of polarization, but there when you're an Israeli and you
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Speaker 1: see this foreign president support Israel, just even though just politics,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about that for him from a geopolitical perspective.
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Speaker 1: You know, Trump didn't win the Peace Prize even though
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Speaker 1: he really wanted that, and and we did read that
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Speaker 1: the person that they warded it to dedicated it to him.
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Speaker 2: Thoughts.
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Speaker 3: Well, we know that the entire world hates Israel, that's
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Speaker 3: pretty obvious. So they absolutely need an ally in this fight.
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Speaker 3: I mean, let's not let's not forget what Hamas even means, right,
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Speaker 3: the Hebrew for Hamas is violence. They are a violent organization.
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Speaker 3: That's what they're built on. That's why they are called Hamas.
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Speaker 3: But as far as Trump goes, and or excuse me,
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Speaker 3: as far as the Israeli people go, they are absolutely
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Speaker 3: looking for somebody to stand for them on the world's skills.
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Speaker 3: Anybody right, yeah, almost anybody right? And and and here
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Speaker 3: comes Trump. Let's just think two years ago, the administration
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Speaker 3: that was there and the potential administration that was to come.
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Speaker 3: If Trump was not to come in, would this have happened?
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Speaker 3: I mean, we have we can answer that question with certainty.
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Speaker 3: You know we we were Me and you both are
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Speaker 3: not in the business of speculating, but we can certainly
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Speaker 3: say that this would not have happened. If it would
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Speaker 3: wouldn't it would not have happened, und Kamala. But here
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Speaker 3: we are two years later, and Trump has made it
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Speaker 3: his mission to really get those hostages released and to
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Speaker 3: come make an end to this right to bring peace
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Speaker 3: to the Middle East. And that's what his you know,
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Speaker 3: he wants another feather in his cap and he's and
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Speaker 3: he just got one by getting these these these hostages released.
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Speaker 3: And I'm thankful that these hostages are released. But we
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Speaker 3: certainly must must not we must not forget what has done.
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Speaker 3: You know, we as humans, we have a very short
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Speaker 3: attention span number one memory, memory span, memory too, right,
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Speaker 3: you know, let's not forget what happened on October the seventh.
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Speaker 3: I mean I was watching you guys on October the
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Speaker 3: seventh at the conference, right, and I remember you stopped everything. Everybody, y'all, y'all,
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Speaker 3: y'all stopped the conference that was gonna happen that time,
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Speaker 3: and y'all brought in Bill Sallas and Bill Caney and
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Speaker 3: y'all did a special program just because of that. Let's
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Speaker 3: not forget that day, because that was a horrible day
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Speaker 3: in our history, not just in Israeli history, Jewish history,
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Speaker 3: but in world history. One that'll never be forgotten. So
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Speaker 3: let's not downplay the seriousness of that. But let's also
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Speaker 3: not really downplay the I guess the excitement that was
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Speaker 3: seen last night because I got a message notification last
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Speaker 3: night TV show went live, and you see the excitement
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Speaker 3: of those people and I were leading up to the
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Speaker 3: hostages being released, and there was joy, whereas two years
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Speaker 3: ago it was nothing but grief. And of course there
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Speaker 3: was some grief that was still there today because a
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Speaker 3: few of them were returned and they had passed. Of course,
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Speaker 3: But we definitely we see where Trump is trying to,
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Speaker 3: in my opinion, get feathers in his cap. I don't
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Speaker 3: know if his motives are sincere in that aspect.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I've got a lot of discussion,
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Speaker 1: and I know that conservatives sometimes even Christians can be
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Speaker 1: very sensitive about criticism of Trump, and many of them
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Speaker 1: will react because for whatever reason. And so I have
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Speaker 1: learned through my life that I don't endorse any human
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Speaker 1: being because every human being is going to fail you.
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Speaker 1: The only one that we endorse fully is the Lord
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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ for sure. And so in that regard what
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Speaker 1: you see Trump, there's no doubt he has been talking
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Speaker 1: and promoting himself as the peace president. And again I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying that that he's not correct, because he's he's
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Speaker 1: definitely been on a mission, whether it's in Africa, he
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Speaker 1: did some stuff there.
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Speaker 2: He's trying of course, with Putin and Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's been any world leader in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty five that has attempted at least to put insert
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Speaker 1: himself and the power of the United States into these
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Speaker 1: situations and been creative in order to trying to stop conflict.
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Speaker 1: And that's to his credit. I mean, why why wouldn't
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Speaker 1: you insert yourself? And again, but when you're dealing with
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Speaker 1: individuals and countries and personality types again like Putin or example,
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Speaker 1: even Zelenski, they are an own personality types, and of
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Speaker 1: course Trump has his own you know, very aggressive personality type.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's successful and other times it's not. There's a
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Speaker 1: lot of things at stake, but the fact of the
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Speaker 1: matter is Trump absolutely deserves credit for this. And the
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Speaker 1: one thing about the Nobel Prize is that the deadline.
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Speaker 1: He was trying to get this in a hurry because
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Speaker 1: he wanted to get it done before the deadline. And
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Speaker 1: I think whatever the deadline came where they had to
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Speaker 1: make the decision, you could say, well, well, if he
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Speaker 1: would have done it before, would they have still.
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Speaker 2: Given it to him?
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Speaker 3: Maybe?
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Speaker 2: Maybe not. But now they said, well, you know, he
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Speaker 2: didn't get it done before the dead I was like,
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Speaker 2: what forty eight hours or twenty four hours or something.
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Speaker 1: So, but let's talk about that aspect and this phraseology
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Speaker 1: that we're hearing about everlasting peace and just overall kind
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Speaker 1: of let's let's just let's what's your thoughts on this?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I heard on the Fox News is one
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Speaker 3: of somebody sent me a link and one of the
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Speaker 3: questions was asked, you know about Trump bringing everlasting peace
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Speaker 3: to the Middle East, And that statement really just blew
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Speaker 3: my mind. And I know that's been a lot of
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Speaker 3: discussion over the past few weeks as we lead up
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Speaker 3: to this moment of these hostages being released. Is this
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Speaker 3: going to bring an everlasting peace to the Middle East?
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Speaker 3: And you and I both know that when you're dealing
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Speaker 3: with hamas, when you're healing, when you're dealing with a
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Speaker 3: Qatari funded terrorist organization, they're not going to honor this
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Speaker 3: peace plan or this piece they deal or whatever that
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Speaker 3: They can't that's it's not in there. It's not in
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Speaker 3: their DNA right there. They're of their father, who is Satan,
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Speaker 3: and what is Satan's primary end game is to destroy
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Speaker 3: the Jews, right he he he tried that with Jesus.
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Speaker 3: He went and tried to kill every firstborn male child
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Speaker 3: under the age of two, or under every child, every
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Speaker 3: male child under the age of two. It didn't work
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Speaker 3: out for him. Jesus was still born and he tried
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Speaker 3: to defeat him lacross. Did that work for him? Of
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Speaker 3: course not, I didn't. Jesus rose from the dead. He's
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Speaker 3: still trying that these days. He's just trying to kill
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Speaker 3: as many Jews as he can to fulfill his endgame. So,
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Speaker 3: and he's right now he's using hamas. Hamas are just
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Speaker 3: poems in this this this game that that Satan is playing,
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Speaker 3: you know, in his in his game of chess, right,
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Speaker 3: they're not gonna abide by this peace plan, and and
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Speaker 3: and Trump himself, Yes, great, I'm I'm I am absolutely
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Speaker 3: thankful for for what what Trump has done in this
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Speaker 3: aspect of it. So I don't want any to think
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Speaker 3: that we're down Trump's you know position in this. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I'm certain that the families of the hostages are just
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Speaker 3: excited that Trump was able to get in and get
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Speaker 3: elected and make this happen. When it comes to an
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Speaker 3: everlasting piece, though, there's only one that's going to bring
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Speaker 3: an everlasting peace to the Middle East, which is going
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Speaker 3: to be an everlasting peace to the entire world, actually,
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Speaker 3: and that's Jesus Christ. And we see that in Isaiah nine.
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Speaker 3: But we see a lot of false peace leading up
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Speaker 3: to that. We see a lot of deceptive peace leading
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Speaker 3: up to that timeframe. And I think that this is
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Speaker 3: just another one of those false pieces. These is another
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Speaker 3: one of those deceptive pieces that we see here in today.
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Speaker 2: Yep. And you mentioned earlier, which is a good phrase.
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Speaker 1: That Trump in a lot of this Again, all of
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Speaker 1: us can rejoice that the hostager's home all of us
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Speaker 1: can rejoice that there's again there's peace in these different areas.
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Speaker 2: That he's been working on.
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Speaker 1: And uh, but yet he the phraseology of putting another
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Speaker 1: feather in his cap.
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Speaker 2: And it's interesting over the past week. I'm not sure
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Speaker 2: why what.
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Speaker 1: The you know, the generally the media is out to
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Speaker 1: embarrass Trump, okay, and and they're they're trying to infiltrate
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Speaker 1: a wedge between him and his supporters, especially Christians, okay,
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Speaker 1: because you know, he has a very a very clear
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Speaker 1: you know, Christian advisory board, which I think they need
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Speaker 1: a little help, okay, because they he's coming out with
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Speaker 1: comments like well, I don't know, I don't know if
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Speaker 1: I'll ever make it to heaven. Yeah, and or and
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Speaker 1: then a couple of weeks ago, I hope this helps me,
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Speaker 1: helps get me to heaven. And so, uh, there's no doubt.
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Speaker 1: Blessed are the peacemakers, right. I mean that in itself
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Speaker 1: is God would would would be favorable, you know, in
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Speaker 1: that sense. But we know that salvation is through Jesus
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Speaker 1: Christ alone, not through our efforts and our good works.
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Speaker 1: And you're like, where's Paula White and all this? No,
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Speaker 1: we can you just go share with him the gospel
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Speaker 1: that nobody is worthy except the Lord Jesus. And but
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Speaker 1: it's interesting, so how how much they influence I don't
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Speaker 1: know how much. Is there spiritual blindness there in his part,
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Speaker 1: but clearly he doesn't understand the gospel.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he absolutely doesn't. I mean, it's the quintessential works
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Speaker 3: based salvation. And I mean, and it's preached in churches
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Speaker 3: on every Sunday. There's every church that you go to,
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Speaker 3: whether it's a works based church, it may be just
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Speaker 3: a straight up Bible church. There are people that attend
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Speaker 3: churches every Sunday en Mass that believe that just them
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Speaker 3: getting to that church is going to get them to Heaven.
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Speaker 3: Right works based. And there's a lot of people that
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Speaker 3: think that the good deeds that I do, I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: give to this charity, I'm gonna donate to this I
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Speaker 3: want to see this homeless person over there. I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: give them a meal. This is just a feather in
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Speaker 3: my cap to get me to heaven. And I think
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Speaker 3: Trump is in that same boat. He's made all of
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Speaker 3: these wonderful deals he's done, He's done wonderful things for
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Speaker 3: the American people. I mean, his first administration. He's done
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Speaker 3: it in a second administration. He's done wonderful things for
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Speaker 3: people around the world. And I think that he made
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Speaker 3: this statement just yesterday. I want to say one of
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Speaker 3: those news reporters. I asked him, you know, how do
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Speaker 3: you feel about this? Do you think this is going
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Speaker 3: to get you to heaven? He's like, well, I don't
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Speaker 3: know about that, but I sure hope.
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Speaker 2: So hope.
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Speaker 3: So you know, I really would implore whoever's on his
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Speaker 3: faith council, which, like you said, I have no faith
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Speaker 3: in his faith counsel there, but you know, you would
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Speaker 3: think though, especially the Christian members of his faith council,
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Speaker 3: if they are indeed Christian, that they would have a
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Speaker 3: heart for his soul because of his soul does not
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Speaker 3: get saved. It doesn't matter how many peace deals he constructs,
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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter how many wonderful things that he does.
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Speaker 3: He will burn for eternity in hell. And that's the
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Speaker 3: sad truth of it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you could see there where.
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Speaker 1: You know, his his overt comments are you know, he
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Speaker 1: wants to you know, he wants to be remember, he
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Speaker 1: wants to be number one. Okay, So this is where
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Speaker 1: you can love and appreciate the things that he's doing,
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Speaker 1: but yet at the same time not appreciate maybe the
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Speaker 1: egotism that's there or the narcissism that's there. And again
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Speaker 1: I find some Christians get really upset with it. It's like, well, hey, uh,
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Speaker 1: you got to call a spade a spade. You know,
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Speaker 1: all you got to do is maybe you don't maybe
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Speaker 1: you don't follow his telegram channel or his true social
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Speaker 1: because it's always you know, I'm a winner.
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Speaker 2: I'm a winner.
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Speaker 1: I did it the best, I did the fastest fast
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Speaker 1: as you know, Uh, Joe Biden didn't get this done.
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Speaker 1: Kamala didn't get this done. Now those are all true statements,
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Speaker 1: but they're there. It's it's this is kind of the
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Speaker 1: essence of pride, where you're you're call you're pointing people
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Speaker 1: to yourself. And uh, Philippin's two three says, you know
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Speaker 1: quite clear that we are to look out for the
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Speaker 1: you know, the interests of others, but not not to
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Speaker 1: bring that that not to promote ourselves or elevate ourselves
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Speaker 1: or exalt ours in that regard. So but all that
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Speaker 1: being said, you know, he's an imperfect guy.
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Speaker 2: But we can all agree. But I again I appreciate
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Speaker 2: what he's doing much.
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Speaker 1: He's he's on his way. He left Israel. He's on
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Speaker 1: his way to Charmel Shaik, where I've actually been there.
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Speaker 1: It's down on the southern tip of the Sinai Peninsula.
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Speaker 1: It's a big resort town.
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Speaker 2: I got to go there one time as it because
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Speaker 2: we went up to We flew in there, and then
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Speaker 2: we went up to Mount Sinai, the traditional Mount Sinai,
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Speaker 2: and we did some again touring of there back in
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Speaker 2: two thousand and seven. But so you have all of
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Speaker 2: these people.
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Speaker 1: You got a Cci coming in from from Egypt, you
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Speaker 1: got Ernuwan coming in from Turkey. You have the Indonesia
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Speaker 1: Prime minister coming in, which people might not know this,
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Speaker 1: but Indonesia's two hundred and eighty million people. It is
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Speaker 1: the largest Muslim country in the world. Which that's kind
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Speaker 1: of weird that it's out in the in the Pacific,
19:02
Speaker 1: you know, so far away. That's a whole nother history
19:06
Speaker 1: lesson how that happened. But he's showing up. And they
19:09
Speaker 1: have never they have never had formal relations with Israel
19:14
Speaker 1: because they've always said, we won't do it unless there's
19:16
Speaker 1: a Palestine state. Well, he's coming in, and then the
19:20
Speaker 1: story is is that he's going to meet there with everybody,
19:23
Speaker 1: and then that he's going to fly to Israel next
19:27
Speaker 1: and and visit, which would be the first time. But
19:30
Speaker 1: so you have all of these figures now a big
19:34
Speaker 1: big All of them have big egos. Certainly Erdawan does
19:38
Speaker 1: not a friend of Israel, hates Israel for sure. Cc
19:41
Speaker 1: you know, they have their Egypt, you know, the nineteen
19:44
Speaker 1: seventy nine accord with Israel, Egypt and Israel. But that's
19:49
Speaker 1: even kind of, you know, teetering a little bit in
19:53
Speaker 1: many ways.
19:54
Speaker 2: So Trump comes in and any let's talk about that.
19:59
Speaker 1: Any thoughts about what is gonna happen here as it
20:01
Speaker 1: relates to are we gonna have an entire comprehensive piece
20:04
Speaker 1: in the Middle East.
20:05
Speaker 3: No, I do not believe we're gonna have a comprehensive
20:08
Speaker 3: piece in the Middle East. I think what we're gonna have, though,
20:09
Speaker 3: is we're gonna have a lot of speculation first, thus
20:12
Speaker 3: long as five three they're gonna bring out, We're gonna
20:14
Speaker 3: have a lot of our sensationalists bring out the phrase
20:18
Speaker 3: peace and safety. When they say peace and safety, peace
20:20
Speaker 3: and safety, I think we're gonna see a lot of that.
20:23
Speaker 3: We're not gonna see a comprehension. We're gonna see what
20:25
Speaker 3: would appear to be a piece. It's gonna be that
20:28
Speaker 3: deceptive piece. It's gonna seem like it's a good idea.
20:32
Speaker 3: A lot of things seem like they're good ideas when
20:34
Speaker 3: they're actually not good ideas at all. They're just stage setting.
20:38
Speaker 3: I see we're seeing a lot of the stage setting
20:40
Speaker 3: being set right now. So to answer your questions just shortly,
20:44
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, I don't believe we're gonna see
20:45
Speaker 3: a comprehensive piece, a real piece. It's gonna seem good.
20:49
Speaker 3: I mean, I just pulled up that article just about
20:52
Speaker 3: the Indonesian president making that historic visit. There are no
20:56
Speaker 3: formal diplomatic relations with Israel. I mean, will they make
21:00
Speaker 3: I mean possibly possibly. I mean, it's nothing stopping them,
21:03
Speaker 3: but there's nothing that's saying that they will. There's nothing
21:06
Speaker 3: saying that they won't. I mean, if they do, great,
21:09
Speaker 3: if they don't, great, I mean it's it's really doesn't
21:12
Speaker 3: affect a whole lot at the moment, except for home.
21:15
Speaker 3: Just the fact that they're in you know, normalization agreements.
21:20
Speaker 3: We had that same conversation a few years ago with
21:23
Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia. Yeah, you know, the normalization of Saudi Arabian
21:26
Speaker 3: When is that going to happen? I mean, it hasn't
21:27
Speaker 3: happened yet. I mean, are we there? Will it happen?
21:31
Speaker 1: I mean it going on that the going back two
21:35
Speaker 1: years I remember in the summer of twenty three that
21:40
Speaker 1: there was a lot of discussion between Israel and Saudi
21:43
Speaker 1: Arabia where Saudi Arabia was at least with leagues and
21:48
Speaker 1: who knows what all the information, but that they were
21:51
Speaker 1: talking about normalizing and it I think that there is evidence,
21:55
Speaker 1: strong evidence that one of the reasons why Hamas felt
22:00
Speaker 1: held to kind of do this, even though it's planned
22:04
Speaker 1: for a while, but to pull the trigger, because they've
22:06
Speaker 1: always been planning things, but to pull the trigger on
22:08
Speaker 1: this was they were watching Saudi Arabia distance itself from
22:13
Speaker 1: the Palestinian cause and so, and Hamas knows that if
22:17
Speaker 1: it would do something, Israel's going to respond, and then
22:20
Speaker 1: of course there's going to be there's going to be
22:22
Speaker 1: some death, There's going to be some collateral damage because
22:26
Speaker 1: of the way that Hamas uses again women and children
22:29
Speaker 1: as shields cowards in that regard and then naturally that
22:33
Speaker 1: would lead to bad press for Israel.
22:35
Speaker 2: And then and it worked perfectly.
22:37
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia was right there and then they backed away
22:40
Speaker 1: because of the response that Israel did. So, so you
22:44
Speaker 1: have the abram Cords that we're going to bring him in,
22:45
Speaker 1: and now we have this aspect. I also want to
22:48
Speaker 1: discuss the idea, because I talked about this at the conference,
22:53
Speaker 1: that it's it's traditional that people say that when the
22:57
Speaker 1: Antichrist comes Dany in nine twenty seven, that he's going
23:00
Speaker 1: to confirm a peace covenant with Israel or with the
23:06
Speaker 1: Many in order to protect Israel and to get them
23:09
Speaker 1: to build their temple. And so it's leading people now
23:12
Speaker 1: and I showed some clips or at least some thoughts
23:15
Speaker 1: where people are.
23:16
Speaker 2: Like, oh, wow, this is it, this is it.
23:18
Speaker 1: As soon as they sign this, we're getting raptured because
23:21
Speaker 1: that means that the seven year tribulation is going to start.
23:23
Speaker 1: And I showed exegetically you know from the Bible that
23:26
Speaker 1: that's not true. We need we need to remove that
23:28
Speaker 1: idea that as soon as this covenant assigned, that that's it,
23:32
Speaker 1: because I think that's not what the covenant is of
23:34
Speaker 1: Daniel nine twenty seven.
23:36
Speaker 2: But in that regard.
23:39
Speaker 1: This this weekend and what comes out of it, most
23:43
Speaker 1: likely because of tradition, there's a lot of Christians that
23:47
Speaker 1: still hold that, and so they're thinking in terms of
23:51
Speaker 1: are we here, are we at the door of the
23:53
Speaker 1: seven to big of Daniel starting because of all this
23:55
Speaker 1: peace agreement talk.
23:56
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, So Daniel nine twenty seven does not expressively
24:02
Speaker 3: state that it's a peace agreement. It literally just says
24:06
Speaker 3: that he will make strong a covenant, he will confirm
24:08
Speaker 3: a covenant. It's gonna be a deal that's already in place.
24:11
Speaker 3: What is that deal or what is that covenant? I
24:14
Speaker 3: don't know? I mean, could it be the deals that
24:16
Speaker 3: are already in place? Is it a future deal? We
24:18
Speaker 3: don't know. We're not here. We hope that we're not
24:22
Speaker 3: around to see that, right, or we won't be around
24:24
Speaker 3: to see that. But on it's gonna be a play.
24:27
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a deal that's already in place, that
24:30
Speaker 3: is made stronger now the church and through sensationalism and
24:37
Speaker 3: through movies and so on and so forth, they've inserted
24:40
Speaker 3: that term peace deal and it's become synonymous with Daniel
24:44
Speaker 3: nine twenty seven. It's almost like whenever you go into
24:48
Speaker 3: a Bible study or when you go into the church,
24:50
Speaker 3: when they reference Daniel nine twenty seven, they don't even
24:53
Speaker 3: read the scripture word for word. They just say the
24:56
Speaker 3: peace deal of nine Daniel nine twenty seven because that's
24:59
Speaker 3: just what they infer. They just infer that as a
25:03
Speaker 3: peace deal, and when in fact it's not, it's just
25:08
Speaker 3: a plan. Is peace going to be part of this?
25:12
Speaker 3: It possibly couldn't. But does scripture state that outright? It
25:18
Speaker 3: does not. So and you mentioned that at the conference
25:20
Speaker 3: has passed week, I mean, and you did a wonderful
25:23
Speaker 3: job breaking that down.
25:24
Speaker 2: Yeah.
25:24
Speaker 1: The one of the things that I said is just
25:27
Speaker 1: the word peace doesn't appear there. It appears in Daniel,
25:29
Speaker 1: but not in that chapter in the context. And what
25:31
Speaker 1: I just shared, I won't go in all of it,
25:33
Speaker 1: but is just sharing that if you look at the
25:35
Speaker 1: word covenant in the Book of Daniel, it appears seven times,
25:40
Speaker 1: including Daniel ne twenty seven and then the other six
25:43
Speaker 1: it refers to the Mosaic Covenant. So the Mosaic Covenant
25:45
Speaker 1: still still exists, especially for Jews, right That's what the
25:49
Speaker 1: that's what they live by right now. They don't live
25:51
Speaker 1: by the new covenant like for us. So when the
25:54
Speaker 1: Antichrist comes, he's going to confirm that pre existing covenant,
25:57
Speaker 1: which is the Mosaic Covenant. And why because he's gonna
26:00
Speaker 1: going to literally what it says in Hebrew is He's
26:03
Speaker 1: and I'll add just a phraseology he will cause to
26:08
Speaker 1: prevail the Mosaic Covenant for the Jews, and in the
26:12
Speaker 1: middle of the week he will stop the sacrifices and offerings. Well,
26:16
Speaker 1: that fits super smoothly because right there he's talking about
26:19
Speaker 1: sacrifices offerings. Well, what covenant is that, Well, that's the
26:22
Speaker 1: Mosaic Covenant in the Bible. So the idea that this
26:27
Speaker 1: peace agreement is that this piece covenant. It's not that
26:30
Speaker 1: it's not in any realm. But I still think though
26:34
Speaker 1: that this idea of peace and harmony, I still think
26:39
Speaker 1: it's prophetic. Not about Daniel nine twenty seven, but I
26:42
Speaker 1: think when we think about Ezekiel thirty eight as an example,
26:46
Speaker 1: we most of us look as one of the next
26:50
Speaker 1: things on the horizon would be Ezko thirty eight. And
26:53
Speaker 1: Ezeko thirty eight describes that when this coalition of nations,
26:58
Speaker 1: primarily Turkey, the North Russia, Iran, you have Sudan, some
27:04
Speaker 1: all you got, you know, these other Islamic countries. When
27:09
Speaker 1: they approach. It says clearly that Israel is going to
27:12
Speaker 1: be dwelling. It doesn't say in peace. It doesn't say shalom.
27:18
Speaker 1: It actually says scheck it it's it's scheck. It is
27:20
Speaker 1: this idea of quietness, and it says you want to
27:22
Speaker 1: tell somebody in modern Hebrew to shut up, you say
27:24
Speaker 1: shack it, okay, But it describes that when that coalition comes,
27:28
Speaker 1: they're they're dwelling relatively quietly. They're not being harassed by
27:33
Speaker 1: their surrounding armies, whether it's has Blah or Syria or Hamas.
27:39
Speaker 1: And so I think what we're seeing right now happening
27:42
Speaker 1: is not Daniel nine twenty seven. I think it's setting
27:44
Speaker 1: the states for zek of thirty eight, and that when
27:48
Speaker 1: they come down, this is all so that's going to take.
27:51
Speaker 1: Do they take down the walls? I mean it says
27:53
Speaker 1: they're dwelling with It does say the villages are without walls,
27:56
Speaker 1: and most of the villages today don't have walls. There
27:58
Speaker 1: are walls between you know, Israel proper in the West Bank.
28:02
Speaker 1: If you want to use that term what you did
28:04
Speaker 1: in some area in that area. But I think that
28:07
Speaker 1: this what we're seeing right now has more in line
28:09
Speaker 1: with that.
28:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I absolutely agree with you, Execuel thirty eight,
28:15
Speaker 3: And we were just talking about Saudi Arabia. I mean
28:17
Speaker 3: they're d Dan right, yes, and that that exact position
28:20
Speaker 3: that they take Deer in that timeframe is the exact
28:24
Speaker 3: position that they're taking today. They like they like to
28:27
Speaker 3: stand off and say, you know what, if this doesn't
28:29
Speaker 3: benefit me, I'm just not gonna do it. I'm gonna
28:32
Speaker 3: play this role over here. If it benefits me financially,
28:36
Speaker 3: then we'll do it. But if it doesn't benefit me financially,
28:39
Speaker 3: then just do whatever that's gonna happen during that timeframe.
28:42
Speaker 3: You know, these nations are going to come against Israel.
28:45
Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia is going to say, you know what, I
28:47
Speaker 3: don't think this is a good idea for you guys
28:49
Speaker 3: to do this, but we're not gonna get involved. Yep.
28:52
Speaker 3: That's exactly what what Saudi Arabia is doing today. So
28:55
Speaker 3: that that same mentality that's there is already there.
28:59
Speaker 2: They're not gonna die for Israel.
29:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, They're not going to die for Israel. So if
29:03
Speaker 3: that same mentality is there, that spirit, if we want
29:06
Speaker 3: to call it's there now, I mean, how close are
29:09
Speaker 3: we now? I'm one that that would hold that that
29:11
Speaker 3: Ezekiel thirty eight happens after the rapture. I believe it
29:15
Speaker 3: happens in that gap period before the signing of Daniel's
29:18
Speaker 3: nine twenty seven. So if we're to that point, I mean,
29:23
Speaker 3: we're getting close now. I certainly think that there there
29:31
Speaker 3: there are things that need to occur, Like you were
29:33
Speaker 3: talking about with you know, we still have those that
29:36
Speaker 3: it's a prickling briar, right, And I love the way
29:38
Speaker 3: that Bill Sallas, you know, explains that you know, they
29:41
Speaker 3: have the inner nations with the song, yeah, and the
29:45
Speaker 3: outer ring and you know, and of course we still
29:48
Speaker 3: have that prickling briar. There's still those nations that need
29:51
Speaker 3: to be wiped out, or those entities that need to
29:53
Speaker 3: be wiped out, such as Hamas. Yeah, I mean, and
29:56
Speaker 3: there's other organizations. It's not just Hamas that hates Israel. No,
30:00
Speaker 3: it's tough. I mean, you got you still got his blow.
30:01
Speaker 3: That's in the it's in the in the.
30:03
Speaker 2: Moment, you name it. There's there's a lot of long
30:05
Speaker 2: line of lists.
30:06
Speaker 3: So when when Hamas takes a step back, if they do,
30:09
Speaker 3: which I don't intend they will, I believe they're just
30:11
Speaker 3: going to be wiped out. After there's going to be
30:12
Speaker 3: another one that's going to step right in, and eventually
30:15
Speaker 3: all of them are going to be wiped out for
30:16
Speaker 3: this to prevail in order for there's a thirty eight
30:20
Speaker 3: to to come to fruition.
30:22
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And it's interesting right now there's been you know,
30:25
Speaker 1: there's a ceasefire at the moment. The according to the
30:29
Speaker 1: full plan UH, the twenty point Plan UH, Israel has
30:34
Speaker 1: stepped back to a fifty percent line, you know. And
30:37
Speaker 1: but yet one of the requirements is that Hamas has
30:41
Speaker 1: to disarm, and they over the weekend, which many thought
30:46
Speaker 1: that it was going to disrupt the whole release of
30:47
Speaker 1: the hostages.
30:50
Speaker 2: And you have disparate groups within the leadership of.
30:53
Speaker 1: Hamas realizing against some are in Katar, right Israel Israel
30:59
Speaker 1: when after them and didn't quite get them all for sure.
31:03
Speaker 2: But you have those that.
31:04
Speaker 1: Are that are more of the political wing than you
31:07
Speaker 1: have those are the military wings. So you have even
31:09
Speaker 1: there that now they're they're they're disagreeing with one another
31:12
Speaker 1: because the political wing is being pressured by Katar and
31:14
Speaker 1: Trump and others because they're looking at economics. But then
31:18
Speaker 1: those are the military wing are like, we're not giving
31:20
Speaker 1: up our arms. So that's the question is will they
31:23
Speaker 1: lay down their arms and then they'll have the opportunity
31:26
Speaker 1: to leave.
31:27
Speaker 2: And Israel came out.
31:28
Speaker 1: And said if they if they if they leave peacefully,
31:31
Speaker 1: they will be deported to other countries. They're not going
31:33
Speaker 1: to be deported to the West you know, the West
31:35
Speaker 1: Bank in Samaria.
31:38
Speaker 2: So they're going to be deported to the countries. So
31:40
Speaker 2: this this.
31:41
Speaker 1: Whole thing could explode, and and and I'm glad the
31:44
Speaker 1: hostages they got that done. But here's the thing, now
31:47
Speaker 1: that the hostages are released, see I'm really shocked that
31:50
Speaker 1: Trump made it happen because this there is no more
31:53
Speaker 1: bargaining chip for Hamas.
31:55
Speaker 2: That's why they didn't go in there. That's why.
31:58
Speaker 1: And if what they ound it was that the hostages
32:02
Speaker 1: were in Conunis, and it was it's the one place
32:06
Speaker 1: in that area that has not been wiped out. Israel
32:09
Speaker 1: knew that they knew they were there, and so they
32:11
Speaker 1: didn't destroy it and basically imploded down in on them.
32:15
Speaker 2: But now that they're God, Hamas has nowhere to hide, they.
32:19
Speaker 3: Don't and and what they were chanting for two years,
32:24
Speaker 3: it doesn't take away what what what? What? What are
32:27
Speaker 3: we here for the last two years? From the river
32:29
Speaker 3: to the sea. Palestine will be free. They're not going
32:32
Speaker 3: to give up their land. That's their land, that's their home.
32:35
Speaker 3: That's I mean, you have people saying that, you know,
32:37
Speaker 3: Israel is the occupiers. This true land belongs to Palestine.
32:42
Speaker 3: This is not their land, this is our land. They're
32:44
Speaker 3: not going to give up their land. They're going to
32:48
Speaker 3: go down in a blazon glory is what what I
32:50
Speaker 3: believe that they're going to own. They're going to do.
32:53
Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure exactly how it's going to happen,
32:55
Speaker 3: but they're going to do something spectacular in their eyes, right,
33:01
Speaker 3: because what's going to happen to them when they die?
33:04
Speaker 3: In their eyes? Yeah right, they're just going on to
33:06
Speaker 3: glory to get their seventy virgins. And I mean that's
33:09
Speaker 3: exactly what. They don't care if they die, because they
33:12
Speaker 3: believe that they're going to go into glory.
33:14
Speaker 1: From the time they're young, right, that this is what
33:16
Speaker 1: this last generation for the You think about you know,
33:19
Speaker 1: two thousand and five when Israel again hand it over
33:22
Speaker 1: of the God's strip and said, we're wiping our hands.
33:27
Speaker 1: We're giving you the land. Okay, rule it and do
33:30
Speaker 1: whatever you want. And instead of building a I mean
33:34
Speaker 1: beautiful beaches, I mean, they gave them a very good
33:37
Speaker 1: chunk of all the beaches of Israel. I mean it's
33:40
Speaker 1: a beautiful area. And instead of building something that would matter,
33:44
Speaker 1: they built terror from And so you think, think about
33:48
Speaker 1: being a kid born in two thousand and five and
33:51
Speaker 1: now you're twenty, and your entire twenty years of your
33:54
Speaker 1: life has been raised simply for death, death of the Jews,
33:57
Speaker 1: and your willingness to give death of yourself for the
34:00
Speaker 1: cause your mom is in you know, be it.
34:03
Speaker 2: I'm proud of you.
34:03
Speaker 1: Remember that the young well I was how young he was.
34:06
Speaker 1: But the one guy that went and killed ten Jews
34:08
Speaker 1: and he called his parents and we got you got
34:09
Speaker 1: the video, you got the recording of it, and they
34:11
Speaker 1: were rejoicing and they're crying and I killed ten. I
34:14
Speaker 1: killed ten, And you're like, how does a person get
34:17
Speaker 1: that way? It's demonic, It's it's satanic.
34:19
Speaker 3: It is it's absolutely demonica. And and That's that's why
34:22
Speaker 3: they are who they are, Homas, the the organization of violence,
34:26
Speaker 3: and and I'll say that they have more faith in
34:33
Speaker 3: their beliefs than most people around the world. You know
34:36
Speaker 3: who who is going to die for their beliefs? We
34:39
Speaker 3: know that they will.
34:39
Speaker 2: Yeah.
34:40
Speaker 3: I was in the military. I went overseas. I served
34:43
Speaker 3: time in Iraq. I was over there. I saw some
34:46
Speaker 3: things that I really wish that I never saw. I've
34:49
Speaker 3: experienced some things that I wish I never experienced. And
34:53
Speaker 3: the one thing that I can say for certain is
34:56
Speaker 3: those people over there. I don't obviously believe what the
35:00
Speaker 3: they believe, but they believe in their convictions and their faith.
35:03
Speaker 3: There's so much they're dedicated. I recall a time when
35:07
Speaker 3: I was over there that we had kids, little kids
35:11
Speaker 3: strapped in suicide vest ready to blow themselves. Yeah, and
35:16
Speaker 3: it messed a lot of our fellow soldiers up because
35:18
Speaker 3: they had to handle that.
35:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to handle it. What do you do?
35:20
Speaker 3: I mean exactly.
35:22
Speaker 1: I mean, no one wants to shoot a kid, or
35:24
Speaker 1: or even a female, or really you don't wants to
35:26
Speaker 1: really shoot anybody, but especially a child. But when you
35:29
Speaker 1: have this level of depraved thinking and and and radicalism.
35:36
Speaker 1: You just really have no choice, and you know it
35:38
Speaker 1: brings up another topic in that. So we see this
35:42
Speaker 1: this reaction.
35:43
Speaker 2: Sometimes in Christianity and Christians those that watch prophecy.
35:47
Speaker 1: And so what we've been seeing on the news is
35:50
Speaker 1: and heg Seth came out Defense Secretary and said, hey,
35:55
Speaker 1: we we because in the in the lead up to
36:00
Speaker 1: this release of the hostages and in the in the conversation,
36:04
Speaker 1: they were talking a lot with Qatar, and so based
36:06
Speaker 1: on some of that out of there, Qatar was very influential.
36:09
Speaker 2: Qatar is a double agent. I mean they're one of
36:12
Speaker 2: the biggest supporters.
36:12
Speaker 1: Of Hamas and over the last few years anyway, So
36:15
Speaker 1: exactly how that works, I don't know. You work with
36:17
Speaker 1: who you work with. It's like Jolani of Syria. I mean,
36:20
Speaker 1: this guy, he's he's a he's a complete radical, killing
36:24
Speaker 1: beheading people. But then when he took over Syria, he
36:27
Speaker 1: puts on a suit and now he's getting welcomed by
36:29
Speaker 1: Macron and France like whoa. Anyways, So but all of
36:35
Speaker 1: a sudden, now the news is there's going to be
36:37
Speaker 1: a Katari air base being built in Mountain Home, Idaho.
36:41
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that and talk about what's real and
36:43
Speaker 1: what's not real.
36:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was asked this question a few times
36:46
Speaker 3: over the weekend, and it's not necessarily an entire basis
36:50
Speaker 3: being constructed. It's an extension on a current existing base.
36:54
Speaker 3: And one of the things that that we have to
36:58
Speaker 3: watch out for is is, you know, the sensalistic right
37:01
Speaker 3: is is this, you know, katar going to have an
37:04
Speaker 3: air base that's being owned and operated by their their
37:08
Speaker 3: their military, right, this is going to be an extension
37:11
Speaker 3: on an air base that's still going to be under
37:13
Speaker 3: the control of the US military, under the Air Force.
37:18
Speaker 3: Of course, this is still one of those stories that's developing,
37:22
Speaker 3: so we don't have all of the information you know
37:24
Speaker 3: right now, but this is one of those opportunities that
37:26
Speaker 3: we have to take a step back and say, let's
37:28
Speaker 3: let's look at this logically and let's see what this means.
37:32
Speaker 3: The first question I asked myself is is this going
37:36
Speaker 3: to be an actual air base or are they just
37:39
Speaker 3: bringing in these Kataris for training purposes? First off, and
37:43
Speaker 3: I do want to just say this, it's not a
37:45
Speaker 3: good idea to bring in Kataris to train. I mean,
37:47
Speaker 3: it's not a good idea at all. We should not
37:49
Speaker 3: be engaging in any type of normalization with the Katari military.
37:56
Speaker 3: I don't agree with it. Bad move, but I do
37:58
Speaker 3: want to put that out there. But it's not uncommon
38:01
Speaker 3: for foreign military, foreign militaries to come over to America
38:06
Speaker 3: and train on military basis. It is a little peculiar
38:10
Speaker 3: that we're talking about having a Katari extension where they
38:14
Speaker 3: can house their They're on planes, you know, they're on jets,
38:18
Speaker 3: these L fifteen. I believe Qa's in in their hangars
38:23
Speaker 3: and and to have their pilots there to train, you know,
38:27
Speaker 3: at the level that our military is trained at. I
38:30
Speaker 3: don't know why it would be a good idea to
38:34
Speaker 3: want to train a Katari military at the same level
38:37
Speaker 3: that you train our guys. I mean, it doesn't seem
38:40
Speaker 3: like the smartest idea. I mean, you would think that
38:42
Speaker 3: we wouldn't want to keep our tips and tricks to
38:45
Speaker 3: ourselves instead of giving it to the enemy. And I
38:48
Speaker 3: would consider Qatar the enemy.
38:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not, They're not even't qualified to be a friend.
38:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean it's it's there. We'll see where
39:00
Speaker 3: this leads to eventually. I don't think this is going
39:04
Speaker 3: to lead to anything good. But I also think that
39:06
Speaker 3: we need to not get so, you know, get our
39:10
Speaker 3: feathers in a ruffle, so to speak, whenever we see
39:13
Speaker 3: this happening. I mean, it's not a good idea. It
39:16
Speaker 3: shouldn't be happening. We at least have control over the
39:21
Speaker 3: air base. But I'm one of these too that I
39:25
Speaker 3: don't have a whole lot of trust in our government, right,
39:28
Speaker 3: so I'm not quite sure what's going on with this
39:30
Speaker 3: at the moment.
39:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, and in looking at it the again, there's a
39:34
Speaker 1: reaction that I've heard a lot about it too, that
39:38
Speaker 1: did we sell out, you know, are as this a
39:41
Speaker 1: trojan horse coming in? But in response, I mean like
39:46
Speaker 1: Singapore has a training facility here, the UK has a
39:49
Speaker 1: training facility, even Turkey. Turkey's a NATO member, of course,
39:53
Speaker 1: and there's other NATO countries. NATO itself will have training
39:56
Speaker 1: facilities in the Netherlands, Germany. So this isn't that unprecedented.
40:02
Speaker 1: It is unprecedented in the sense of having someone like
40:07
Speaker 1: a very overt Muslim country.
40:12
Speaker 2: Again that's not under the NATO umbrella.
40:13
Speaker 1: So Turkey is a Muslim country, but it's under the
40:16
Speaker 1: NATO umbrella, which is odd in and of itself too,
40:18
Speaker 1: but not not if you understand history. But now with Erduwan,
40:22
Speaker 1: he's kind of a whole renegade. But to have katar
40:25
Speaker 1: in hmm. But nevertheless, it's not unprecedented, So it's not
40:28
Speaker 1: this idea that oh wow, look at this, you know,
40:30
Speaker 1: the whole thing is going down. So I think for us,
40:34
Speaker 1: in part of watching Prophecy, and this is my encouragement,
40:37
Speaker 1: get your thoughts to on this is is being sober minded,
40:41
Speaker 1: not being I don't like sensationalism, I don't like click bait.
40:46
Speaker 1: I like to be unemotional and just analyze things.
40:51
Speaker 2: And I think that.
40:51
Speaker 1: As we watch that'll keep us safe from overreacting and
40:55
Speaker 1: spinning thing is in the way that they sent or
40:57
Speaker 1: reading into things that learned there and agree.
41:00
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's the you know, having proper discernment,
41:03
Speaker 3: especially on these these situations. A lot of on a
41:07
Speaker 3: lot of people in our industry or in our area
41:10
Speaker 3: of expertise, if you want to call it that, they
41:12
Speaker 3: want to be the first ones to jump on something right,
41:16
Speaker 3: And a lot of times, if you're the first one
41:18
Speaker 3: to jump on it, you're gonna be the first one
41:20
Speaker 3: to get burned from that information because you don't have
41:22
Speaker 3: all the information in front of you, and we don't
41:24
Speaker 3: have all the information in front of us on this
41:26
Speaker 3: this Katari Air Force situation, right, but we have enough
41:31
Speaker 3: information to say we need to look into it more.
41:34
Speaker 3: It's not a good idea. This is something that has
41:37
Speaker 3: happened before to an extent with other countries. It is
41:41
Speaker 3: unprecedented to a certain level. Definitely not a good idea
41:45
Speaker 3: with Katar. I just can't say that enough, you know
41:49
Speaker 3: how bad of an idea that is. But but as
41:52
Speaker 3: as as believers, as as prophecy students, and as those
41:55
Speaker 3: that report on these things, we have a responsibility to
41:59
Speaker 3: be responsible with the information that we put out because,
42:05
Speaker 3: I mean, we have people that watch us from all
42:07
Speaker 3: over the world. We have people that rely on the
42:10
Speaker 3: information that we present. And if we present false information,
42:13
Speaker 3: or if we don't vet the information that we put out,
42:15
Speaker 3: then what happens to our testimony, right, and it becomes uncredible.
42:19
Speaker 3: And that's the last thing that we want to do
42:20
Speaker 3: here is to present information that's uncredible, untrustworthy. We want
42:25
Speaker 3: you guys to be able to trust what we have
42:27
Speaker 3: to say. And we understand that you're not going to
42:28
Speaker 3: always like what we have to say, and we may
42:31
Speaker 3: not have to take the position that you may necessarily take.
42:34
Speaker 3: But that's just a way that it is. We're just
42:36
Speaker 3: trying to be discerning in the moment, and you know, the.
42:39
Speaker 2: Kind of enclosing the last couple of minutes here.
42:42
Speaker 1: We see the really the the desire we see it
42:48
Speaker 1: in Europe is basically in Islamic takeover. I mean they've
42:52
Speaker 1: done it through obviously through having a lot of kids
42:54
Speaker 1: that they do it through immigration through they have their
42:58
Speaker 1: own problems with immigration all through your rope. They have
43:01
Speaker 1: uh the the European Union has basically cut its own
43:04
Speaker 1: throat in some of their policies by requiring certain levels
43:09
Speaker 1: of immigration, asylum seekers, et cetera. Certainly, over the last
43:12
Speaker 1: administration here we we saw that massive amounts of people
43:16
Speaker 1: coming through through even Chinese. Chinese are coming down into
43:20
Speaker 1: Central America and then making their way.
43:22
Speaker 2: Up into from the south.
43:25
Speaker 1: So with Qatar coming over again, one of the reactions
43:29
Speaker 1: are there's been an association with the really Islamization of
43:32
Speaker 1: America and.
43:36
Speaker 2: Is it happening.
43:38
Speaker 3: I believe it's happening on a local level, right. It's
43:40
Speaker 3: the Islamization of America is not going to happen overnight.
43:43
Speaker 3: And you know, it's going to happen on a local level.
43:46
Speaker 3: And we see that happening in areas like Dear Dearborn.
43:48
Speaker 2: Mischigon, oh Man, watch Out, Patterson.
43:50
Speaker 3: New Jersey. And we see there are numerous Dallas in Texas,
43:56
Speaker 3: cities across Texas. The Rare Foundation is doing a great
44:00
Speaker 3: job exposing a lot of these these mosque and the
44:05
Speaker 3: these Islamic centers that are being exposed or that are
44:08
Speaker 3: being built there. I think that it's not gonna happen overnight.
44:14
Speaker 3: Is it going to happen? I don't know. I mean,
44:16
Speaker 3: I just I can only see what I can see.
44:18
Speaker 3: And what I see right now is we have a
44:20
Speaker 3: few cities that are being overrun, just like in Dearborn.
44:25
Speaker 3: Just recently, Christian people that live there were trying to
44:30
Speaker 3: get some things passed through their local city city council.
44:34
Speaker 3: I believe it had something to do with the street name,
44:37
Speaker 3: and the mayor of their city was like, you know,
44:38
Speaker 3: you don't belong here, wow, in your own city, in
44:41
Speaker 3: your own country, you don't belong to We don't want
44:44
Speaker 3: your values here because we're no longer a city that
44:48
Speaker 3: that aspires to be the American city that Quentes, central
44:52
Speaker 3: American city.
44:52
Speaker 1: This is the danger of a pure democracy, right, and
44:55
Speaker 1: this is why, you know, our country is not a
44:57
Speaker 1: pure democracy.
44:57
Speaker 2: It's a representative republic.
44:59
Speaker 1: But this is why even going in history, Greeks and others,
45:04
Speaker 1: just from a philosophical perspective, they realize that democracy was
45:07
Speaker 1: not the way to go. So here in America, again,
45:10
Speaker 1: you get seventy percent of the people in the in
45:12
Speaker 1: the constituency and they just vote in and then, of
45:15
Speaker 1: course things can unless you have somebody there that is
45:19
Speaker 1: actively bringing it to court and watching you know, these
45:25
Speaker 1: local places, as you said, Dearborn is one example. They're
45:28
Speaker 1: going to pass the laws that they feel fit. And again,
45:32
Speaker 1: unless say goes to court, who's going to hold the accountable?
45:34
Speaker 1: And we see, we see that. But what we can
45:37
Speaker 1: say is that the effort to you know, bring Islam
45:46
Speaker 1: or the Islamization of America, that effort is happening.
45:50
Speaker 2: Yes, So they're not stopping there there. You know.
45:53
Speaker 1: Again, we think about these neighborhoods in Dallas that where
45:57
Speaker 1: even the governor Abbott came in and put a stop
45:59
Speaker 1: to it. And then they said, oh, well, we're going
46:01
Speaker 1: to become an LLC now, and so they're gon, we're
46:04
Speaker 1: gonna get around and we're gonna have these things where
46:05
Speaker 1: whole neighborhoods are are now and it's for Islam only.
46:09
Speaker 1: And once you're in there, you know, you can make
46:12
Speaker 1: your own rules. You can make your own housing rules.
46:16
Speaker 1: And because it's all voluntary, it's kind of like in
46:18
Speaker 1: a church if you come into if if I create
46:20
Speaker 1: a church and you come in, we can we can
46:22
Speaker 1: make our own rules to govern ourselves. And because it's voluntary.
46:26
Speaker 1: But anyways, well, we just we're keeping watch and we
46:30
Speaker 1: see how this is going to again, it's going to
46:32
Speaker 1: weaken America. And that's why when you look at the endgame,
46:35
Speaker 1: uh there is America is not overtly represented, which I'm
46:40
Speaker 1: not surprised by that because I think after the rapture,
46:42
Speaker 1: America will be gutted and then think about the lawlessnesses there.
46:46
Speaker 2: So but anyways, Joe, appreciate your time, sir, thank you.
46:50
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47:09
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